According to their website the Polyurethane varnish from Vallejo needs 24h even between layers to dry, and 2 layers would be enough. And it shouldnt need to be thinned with 0.5 (as they say). Vallejo one also comes in bigger bottles too
Just noticed, with this video the subs are up to 85.5k Congratulations BR, 100,000 subs is coming. Amazing isn't how many people watch and enjoy your videos. Speak's well of your contect and effort. Thank you as always for the work and time you put into your channel.
Great review, it looks like Vallejo may finally be fixing some of the issues they have been having with their paint. Thank you for sharing, everyone keep yourselves and love ones safe and healthy and remember to SMILE 😊God Bless 🙏
As a figure painter who absolutely adores a good flat finish for photography especially, I haven't found anything that gets even close to AK Ultra Matte
Thanks for the vid Robert. Not so sure that "Ultra" matte is any flatter than just normal matte but IMO the AK wins. I like that red you are working on . At 17:00 in the vid it looks quite like a favourite Nissan colour Katsuma Orange. Don't get stuck in the snow
Great comparison for an acrylic matte. I am a oil based paint/flat type of modeler, but as per your usual, you opened my eyes to yet another product to try. Thank you for doing this test for all of us out here.
The airbrush of yours that I bought SHOULD be getting in within 40 minutes...I hope. I am looking forward to it and I love seeing your videos. Keep up the awesome work.
I think you will enjoy it. I am a long time Iwata fangirl, and I have to say, I'm really liking my Swallowtail. I got the fan cap too, very nice with the large models I paint.
Would have liked to see some durability tests. The AK I can almost rub off with my fingers sometimes, which doesn’t help people who play games with their models. I can’t get varnishes to spray well as a smooth finishing coat for some reason, so brush instead.
Informative test. I don't normally use a matte much, however, now I am building some of my aircraft kits, I think those could be very useful. I did try some Mod Podge matte tonite and was very happy with the results. I brushed on a medium coat and after it dried, I was impressed at how well it dulled the paint. I brushed it over Colorshots Gloss Yellow, and wow was it matte. Maybe that could be another test ( the Mod Podge series) sometime in the future. I am curious how well it can be sprayed thru an airbrush.
I love Vallejo Polyurethane as a protective coat while painting. Once it cures, it takes a lot to rub it off even with vallejo thinner, so while painting if I make a mistake, I can confidently just rub it off using thinner and the prior paint layer will remain safe. It thins with vallejo thinner, so it's not a permanent layer and you can rub it off and the paint layer underneath if you're not careful. Also, for a couple dollars more than the 60ml AK, you get a 200ml bottle of Vallejo which is the best value by far.
Got an idea for you, gonna try it myself. Prime some labels or stickers in 2 or 3 colors. Then paint on the color of the bottle or jar it will be going on. Saving space and giving an idea of how it will look at a glance.
Terrific test Robert, I am a typical Vallejo user and happy to see the poly line for matte coat. It really looked good in your test run. I have been using Createx Matte and Gloss for various use and I am just not always happy with it. Thanks again, and rock on....
Awesome lookin red, excited to see the other colors yall are cookin. IMHO I would say the AK edged out over the Vallejo(rarely do I find myself saying that😅). My experiences with Vallejo varnishes have been mixed. Great test, always awesome to see water based paint on here😁 Happy New Year and have a good weekend yall✌🏽
Another great video! I've had AK ultra varnish gloss (same bottle) for a while, tried to spray it few times and it drove me mad, always separated into drops in surface. I just gave up on it. Vallejo on the other hand is the same as that polyurethane you tested a while ago- it was test which gloss varnish doesn't dull chrome paint. For polyurethane varnishes they recommend thinning with their airbrush thinner 50/50 mix, so that should work, it is the same one, listed in same type of varnish on their website, just smaller bottle, and probably higher cost per ml :). Thanks for another great video!👍
Picked up a swallowtail about the time this vid was released, just watching it now as I catch up on all the info on this channel 🙂With the fan cap and stand, super happy with them even tho I am still re-learning how to airbrush again. Your vids help!
That blue color is perfect for a Freedom Gundam. I woundering how this would look over plain plastic. Cause with my really old models that need painting, the newer models don't "need" to be painted.
What better for vallejo, is available in my country. because i dont know how paint shipping as it categorized as "liquid", the customs and taxes, made it so much harder to just buy a few paint overseas. The brush test is really promising for me to start painting my kits, thanks for the vids!
Pretty impressive for vallejo to get a near great result The ultra matt varnish obviously ak ultra matt is on top still, but honestly i can now buy either knowing im knocking back that sheen, great video as always bud
Try using a hair drier on those labels to soften the adhesive…then try peeling them off. Some labels need just a moment of heat and others have to get quite hot before peeling! Occasionally this doesn’t work, it depends on the adhesive and how long it has been in place.
I've only used the Vallejo one as brush on, it doesn't give me an ultramatt finish compared to something like GreenStuffWorld's, but it's way more durable even with one coat, and still a nice matt varnish if nothing else. Also levels pretty good, but gets tacky quite quickly.
Good Review. What did you use for your final clean out with the Vallejo? I mean when you were finished airbrushing. Also, what should you use to clean out acrylic alcohol with?
Very cool tests, thank you for such a good job!!! I need a durable gloss and satin acrylics clears for my scale models of planes, can you recommend someone, because I always used lacquers but now I need to go away ((
I personally think there's a huge difference between these two. The AK Ultra Matt is significantly better at being a true matte finish, whereas the Vallejo retains their long-standing issue of their matte paints and varnish being a little more satin than their competitors. More matte than they used to be, though, so I'll give them that.
That's what use, have been for years. But I'm mostly with solvent style paint myself. I'm an old model master paint guy and still around 300 bottles on hand
You need to do a scratch test. Spraying flat directly on paint actually make the paint easier to scratch. On gundams its a big deal. Thats why its best to spray a gloss coat first to protect the paint. Gloss adds the best protection. Id like to see a scratch test without a gloss coat.
Do you know of any videos where they do that? Things like scratching or spilling things on top of the varnished, cured piece and showing how well it resists staining?
@@barbatosrex9473I had a special varnish made for musou black, but I still could not achieve the result I wanted. There is no brightness, but the black color turns to gray. I think there must be a solution to this.
Have you tried mixing the Vallejo and AK ultra matte varnishes? I've been using a 1-to-1 mix on some of my minis, and it goes on really smooth, but I'm a little paranoid about mixing acrylic and polyurethane varnish
I am having a hard time mixing Mr.Clear Color GX 105 Clear Pink……for some odd reason its not mixing well with the thinner (the paint tends to clump together no matter what type of thinner I use) I could really use some assistance, please!!!!
@@barbatosrex9473 Thanks, I have a long term cosplay idea in mind for Obelisk the Tormentor, and that seemed like a great color. Still in the thinking stage, it'll be awhile yet. I'll check that idea out thanks.
I have honestly stopped using any varnish at all... it just ends up ruining paintjobs and results I enjoy, and I have rubbed the living HECK out of acryllic paint trying to get it to come off some 40k figures and it won't budge. Even scrapign it with an exacto takes a little bit of work so I've stopped varnishing anything that's not Metal... Resin seems to hold pretty decent even, though I am kinda tempted to varnish them just incase. I've seen some paint flakin goff FW resin, but, I never cleaned them off before painting them haha. Istripped and am repainting them now.
I've read and seen good things about both primers, I'm a little stuck on what to use for the "engine" black. My father used to use flo-quil but now that they are out of business we haven't painted a lot. Recently, we have been trying to figure out how to weather with acrylics so that is the only exposed we have to them. They are sort of a new beast for us. Would a laqucer paint like Mr Color or Tamiya or acrylic like Vallejo be better than the other particularly for brass? @@barbatosrex9473
I believe i saw a couple of ways to replicate gaia prism blue black. The first comes from createx's RUclips channel, a video called murdered candy. The second comes from a short. Add 20% gloss black to Mr. Crystal saphire blue. When I rebuild my airbrushing area, i will give them a go myself. Anyone else want to give it a whirl?
Really enjoyed your testing of the AK and Vallejo matte varnishes , I hadn't had any knowledge of the varnishes, thank you.
According to their website the Polyurethane varnish from Vallejo needs 24h even between layers to dry, and 2 layers would be enough. And it shouldnt need to be thinned with 0.5 (as they say).
Vallejo one also comes in bigger bottles too
Just noticed, with this video the subs are up to 85.5k
Congratulations BR, 100,000 subs is coming. Amazing isn't how many people watch and enjoy your videos. Speak's well of your contect and effort. Thank you as always for the work and time you put into your channel.
Great review, it looks like Vallejo may finally be fixing some of the issues they have been having with their paint. Thank you for sharing, everyone keep yourselves and love ones safe and healthy and remember to SMILE 😊God Bless 🙏
As a figure painter who absolutely adores a good flat finish for photography especially, I haven't found anything that gets even close to AK Ultra Matte
Thanks for the vid Robert. Not so sure that "Ultra" matte is any flatter than just normal matte but IMO the AK wins. I like that red you are working on . At 17:00 in the vid it looks quite like a favourite Nissan colour Katsuma Orange. Don't get stuck in the snow
I'm stoked to have learned about the 4 E's Mini Vortex Lab Mixer. No idea such a little "paint shaker" existed.
Thanks for the comparison. Gives me some options for several builds i have going.
Great comparison for an acrylic matte. I am a oil based paint/flat type of modeler, but as per your usual, you opened my eyes to yet another product to try. Thank you for doing this test for all of us out here.
The airbrush of yours that I bought SHOULD be getting in within 40 minutes...I hope. I am looking forward to it and I love seeing your videos. Keep up the awesome work.
I think you will enjoy it. I am a long time Iwata fangirl, and I have to say, I'm really liking my Swallowtail. I got the fan cap too, very nice with the large models I paint.
Great video comparison of vallejo and AK matte varnishes. Thanks.
I use AK Interactive Ultra Matte Varnish and really really enjoy it.
Would have liked to see some durability tests. The AK I can almost rub off with my fingers sometimes, which doesn’t help people who play games with their models. I can’t get varnishes to spray well as a smooth finishing coat for some reason, so brush instead.
Got the AK coming from amazon thanks for the links, For my application AK will do better for me. Thanks!!
Hi Robert, thank you, again, for a great demonstration between AK and Vallejo Matte Varnishes. Kudos to you always. 😀
I really like the blue, look forward to seeing the brand so I can get a bottle of it.
Thank you for all that you do sir.
Informative test. I don't normally use a matte much, however, now I am building some of my aircraft kits, I think those could be very useful. I did try some Mod Podge matte tonite and was very happy with the results. I brushed on a medium coat and after it dried, I was impressed at how well it dulled the paint. I brushed it over Colorshots Gloss Yellow, and wow was it matte. Maybe that could be another test ( the Mod Podge series) sometime in the future. I am curious how well it can be sprayed thru an airbrush.
Thanks for this review and continue your fantastic work
I love Vallejo Polyurethane as a protective coat while painting. Once it cures, it takes a lot to rub it off even with vallejo thinner, so while painting if I make a mistake, I can confidently just rub it off using thinner and the prior paint layer will remain safe. It thins with vallejo thinner, so it's not a permanent layer and you can rub it off and the paint layer underneath if you're not careful.
Also, for a couple dollars more than the 60ml AK, you get a 200ml bottle of Vallejo which is the best value by far.
Great info as always. Glad I found your channel.
Got an idea for you, gonna try it myself. Prime some labels or stickers in 2 or 3 colors. Then paint on the color of the bottle or jar it will be going on. Saving space and giving an idea of how it will look at a glance.
That red looks great! Thanks for the comparison video.
Terrific test Robert,
I am a typical Vallejo user and happy to see the poly line for matte coat. It really looked good in your test run. I have been using Createx Matte and Gloss for various use and I am just not always happy with it. Thanks again, and rock on....
Thank you so much Bob ❤ great show!!
Really impressed with the AK! Might get it as I handbrush. Thanks for this test Barbatos!!
this was perfect video, I'm newb at airbrushing and was trying to move away from top coat spray cans, thank you so much for this video!
Awesome lookin red, excited to see the other colors yall are cookin.
IMHO I would say the AK edged out over the Vallejo(rarely do I find myself saying that😅). My experiences with Vallejo varnishes have been mixed.
Great test, always awesome to see water based paint on here😁
Happy New Year and have a good weekend yall✌🏽
Another great video! I've had AK ultra varnish gloss (same bottle) for a while, tried to spray it few times and it drove me mad, always separated into drops in surface. I just gave up on it. Vallejo on the other hand is the same as that polyurethane you tested a while ago- it was test which gloss varnish doesn't dull chrome paint. For polyurethane varnishes they recommend thinning with their airbrush thinner 50/50 mix, so that should work, it is the same one, listed in same type of varnish on their website, just smaller bottle, and probably higher cost per ml :). Thanks for another great video!👍
Thank you Bob!
Yeah spaz stix black backer and silver backer and I had to right on each of them as they did the same thing
Picked up a swallowtail about the time this vid was released, just watching it now as I catch up on all the info on this channel 🙂With the fan cap and stand, super happy with them even tho I am still re-learning how to airbrush again. Your vids help!
I assume the new line of paints you're working on are enamel/lacquer instead of acrylic? Both the red and that blue-black were nice looking.
Really cool how many options we have these days
Thank you Robert for Another great comparison video I highliy appreciate them an thanks for the time you invest into are videos 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks Lyle
I use both AK and Vallejo varnishes and I prefer the Vallejo Mecha varnishes. Even more matt and easier to spray than AK imho.
Thank you sir!
i'm about to try using a spray polyurethane to waterproof some fishing floats i'm making.
That blue color is perfect for a Freedom Gundam.
I woundering how this would look over plain plastic. Cause with my really old models that need painting, the newer models don't "need" to be painted.
Have you tried the one from Ammo ??? , They work fantastic
What better for vallejo, is available in my country. because i dont know how paint shipping as it categorized as "liquid", the customs and taxes, made it so much harder to just buy a few paint overseas.
The brush test is really promising for me to start painting my kits, thanks for the vids!
Great video Robert thanks for sharing
Pretty impressive for vallejo to get a near great result The ultra matt varnish obviously ak ultra matt is on top still, but honestly i can now buy either knowing im knocking back that sheen, great video as always bud
Try using a hair drier on those labels to soften the adhesive…then try peeling them off. Some labels need just a moment of heat and others have to get quite hot before peeling! Occasionally this doesn’t work, it depends on the adhesive and how long it has been in place.
I've only used the Vallejo one as brush on, it doesn't give me an ultramatt finish compared to something like GreenStuffWorld's, but it's way more durable even with one coat, and still a nice matt varnish if nothing else. Also levels pretty good, but gets tacky quite quickly.
I'm using vallejo ultra matte and I love it. but the vallejo's gloss is not that glossy.
I thin it using vallejo thinner and they worked well.
That red is nice 👍🏻 like a red bronze
Good Review. What did you use for your final clean out with the Vallejo? I mean when you were finished airbrushing. Also, what should you use to clean out acrylic alcohol with?
I use hot water brewed from my coffee maker. You can use rubbing alcohol to clean alcohol based acrylics but not for Vallejo
Thank you.@@barbatosrex9473
Interesting! I'm not a Vallejo user but I'd give this a try.
Very cool tests, thank you for such a good job!!! I need a durable gloss and satin acrylics clears for my scale models of planes, can you recommend someone, because I always used lacquers but now I need to go away ((
Hey Robert, are you planning to test the Gaia Notes Clear color 006 Flat base additive?
I'll will be
Cool as always 👍
Ammo also do an ultra matt that works well. I tried the Vallejo but way too long to dry.
I personally think there's a huge difference between these two. The AK Ultra Matt is significantly better at being a true matte finish, whereas the Vallejo retains their long-standing issue of their matte paints and varnish being a little more satin than their competitors. More matte than they used to be, though, so I'll give them that.
Great test, cant believe that sticker was right over the label...hate when that happens
Testor's Dullcote: stinks like hell, but lays down a superb flat coat.
That's what use, have been for years. But I'm mostly with solvent style paint myself. I'm an old model master paint guy and still around 300 bottles on hand
I would like to see what clears other than 2k will work over createx candy 2.0
You need to do a scratch test. Spraying flat directly on paint actually make the paint easier to scratch. On gundams its a big deal. Thats why its best to spray a gloss coat first to protect the paint. Gloss adds the best protection. Id like to see a scratch test without a gloss coat.
Do you know of any videos where they do that? Things like scratching or spilling things on top of the varnished, cured piece and showing how well it resists staining?
Love the blue, confirmed as Mr Color C5?
Mr Color 76
@@barbatosrex9473are you sure its Mr Color C76 Metallic Blue, as looks to be a solid gloss rather than metallic paint in the video?
Can u test these varnish with Musou Black paint?
Someone tested that and it made the black less matte. It didn't work
@@barbatosrex9473I had a special varnish made for musou black, but I still could not achieve the result I wanted. There is no brightness, but the black color turns to gray. I think there must be a solution to this.
Have you tried mixing the Vallejo and AK ultra matte varnishes? I've been using a 1-to-1 mix on some of my minis, and it goes on really smooth, but I'm a little paranoid about mixing acrylic and polyurethane varnish
AK is the winner that's my opinion.
I forgot to ask, is Gundam the only place we can purchase your paints? Thank you Robert!
Yes
The Vallejo looks like a satin finish on the gloss. It dulls down with a little shine after drying.
How do both varnishes do on bare plastic? I want to put decals down on a few bare kits, but it's too cold this time of year for rattle cans
has anybody tried the ultra matte by Ammo Mig?
Back to da Benchhhhh!
So, which performs better? Which would be a better varnish to protect the work during staining, so you can wipe off what you don't want left behind?
Both are so similar that I would just get the one that's easiest for you to find
I am having a hard time mixing Mr.Clear Color GX 105 Clear Pink……for some odd reason its not mixing well with the thinner (the paint tends to clump together no matter what type of thinner I use) I could really use some assistance, please!!!!
Looks like the Ak tends to whiten out the colour a lot less than the Vallejo one..
Are these brands of the same ownership?
No
No, they have nothing to do with one another other than they are from the same country
Those labels over labels were no accident, thats an upset worker.
Vallejo Air Brush thinner to thin any Vallejo product.
Can I thin/clean the polyurethane with regular airbrush thinner/cleaner that I would use for acrylics?
Yes
@@barbatosrex9473 Thanks!
what is the name of the color thats between the red and yellow on the AK side?
That's a candy teal by Splash. Also check out my new Tri Color line, I have a similar color. I released them last month. I did a full video on them
@@barbatosrex9473 Thanks, I have a long term cosplay idea in mind for Obelisk the Tormentor, and that seemed like a great color. Still in the thinking stage, it'll be awhile yet. I'll check that idea out thanks.
I like the flatness of the AK but I only use it in places where it won't get much handling. It's fragile and will rub off with your fingers.
I have honestly stopped using any varnish at all... it just ends up ruining paintjobs and results I enjoy, and I have rubbed the living HECK out of acryllic paint trying to get it to come off some 40k figures and it won't budge. Even scrapign it with an exacto takes a little bit of work so I've stopped varnishing anything that's not Metal... Resin seems to hold pretty decent even, though I am kinda tempted to varnish them just incase. I've seen some paint flakin goff FW resin, but, I never cleaned them off before painting them haha. Istripped and am repainting them now.
What thinner would you thin the vallejo ultra matt with?
I, only use Vallejo thinner when thinning Vallejo paints
@@barbatosrex9473 thanks.
I have a brass steam engine to paint, do you have any recommendations on what to use.
Well I would stsrt with metal. Primer by Mr Color or Tamiya.
I've read and seen good things about both primers, I'm a little stuck on what to use for the "engine" black. My father used to use flo-quil but now that they are out of business we haven't painted a lot. Recently, we have been trying to figure out how to weather with acrylics so that is the only exposed we have to them. They are sort of a new beast for us. Would a laqucer paint like Mr Color or Tamiya or acrylic like Vallejo be better than the other particularly for brass? @@barbatosrex9473
i prefer Ammos "Lucky" ultra-matt.
I have that here too, come to think of it, I have everything 😉
I believe i saw a couple of ways to replicate gaia prism blue black. The first comes from createx's RUclips channel, a video called murdered candy. The second comes from a short. Add 20% gloss black to Mr. Crystal saphire blue. When I rebuild my airbrushing area, i will give them a go myself. Anyone else want to give it a whirl?
Love the content
Do what I do, spray the bottle cap with the color.
AK seems way more flat than matte. Is it bad? No...but the Vallejo is definitely matte Vs flat.
Should go good over nazca frosted black
I am told we should avoid PU because it yellows with age.