Theory this is soo spot on great work at cracking the code, if they had any sense they would get you on board as a consultant, you get the nuonsices of sw more than than anyone 👍
Comparing it to the mcu, specifically some dialogue said in Captain America: Civil war, Vision tells Tony that ever since he came out as iron man there will always be someone wanting to challenge him and the avengers. I think this applies to Star Wars. As long as there are Jedi, there are going to be force wielders who disagree with their way. Hence the need for a balance in the force. Can’t have good without bad! That’s what life is about
Quite right! That is why you cannot defeat the Sith without destroying the Jedi. If even one Jedi survives, a dark counterpart will eventually rise to challenge them. Kreia in KOTOR 2 realized this, which is why she tried to destroy the Force itself.
@@WalkerIGP Which is why i think post sequel, the new Jedi Order will be more of an order of Grey Jedi, which is highlighted in the failure of the jedi in TLJ and they're downfall in ROTS
Kryptic that’s a really interesting theory! I feel like Rey would be the Grand Master of that Grey Jedi Order and will train younglings such as that Broom Boy from TLJ and other force sensitive children. Let’s hope that there are no more Palpatine clones, or empire’s etc 😂
@@MrRen847 I mean both remnants of both orders are dead by the end of TROS, Luke has become one with the force and the Emperor is dead for good. REy has learnt the Jedi was flawed from ROTS and Luke didn't see this and only realised this when he became the Last Jedi. REy sees that its time for something new for Millennia of War, with her yellow lightsaber representing a new, balanced order of peace, something the Jedi once were.
The problem with that is, there were Sith who were the actual race of the Sith. They were who and what they were because of their lust for more power. The Sith aren’t like the Democrats or Republicans, who just exist to counter act the other. Sith were, and are Sith for very selfish reasons that have nothing to do with the opinions or actions of the Jedi. They always try to squash the Jedi because the Jedi get in their way, but then again, they do that to everyone else who gets in their way too not just Jedi. And even if the Sith ceased to be, the Jedi would still find the need to keep peace between the people of the galaxy, which rules out the necessity of the Sith to exist. Either way there is “the force”, and even if every force user refrained from creating orders and groups, there would still be dark and light users who inevitably adopted Sith or Jedi habits simply due to the nature of the force.
isn't lightsaber fighting a form of attachment as well? i mean the jedi have been doing it for their entire lives as well as the many centuries their order has been doing 😅
Well its hardly news. The Jedi have never represented the absolute moral good, and have always been more pragmatic or neutral good. They even killed many people, or were prepared to countenance, even partake in, the devastation of planets and cultures. That's the problem with the concept of 'the greater good'. It is morally ambiguous and can always be used to justify evil.
If you're from the outer rim or a desolate planet like Tatooine... how would you view some mysterious guild of wizards that never seem to have clear cut intentions, can do or kill just about ANYTHING in the galaxy, and does pretty much whatever the Senate says?
Guess what! When the Sith got in power in their small numbers of Sidious and Vader and their Empire, they did more death, destruction and chaos to the galaxy than the Jedi every did in a 1000 years since when Bane created the rule of two. They killed billions and planned on killing more to rule and stay ruling. They destroyed Alderan and would have destroy more planets if the first Death Star wasn't destroyed in Stars a New Hope! We can talk about the flaws of the Jedi but they were basically pawns of the Senate and the Republic. If they stayed out of the politics or followed the will of the force, the people would still suffer but not as much under the Sith and their Empire. The movie the Siege with Annette Benning who was with the CIA and Denzel Washington who was with the FBA had a great scene where terrorist had hijacked bus in New York City. Benning character recognized the scene before from the Middle East. She asked Denzel character did they have the shooters in place. She told them out to take them out. Denzel looked at her kind of stunned. Her reply was you rather lose a little or lose alot. Denzel tried to negotiate with them. Minutes later the bus blew up after a few hostages from the bus were let go. I say all this to say, even with the Jedi being un-perfect, the galaxy slowly over time lost a little. However, with the Sith Empire under Palpatine, the galaxy lost alot in just over 20 year reign in power.
Well, they actually did have attachments. Even the supposed 'model' ones. Windu was attached and totally devoted to the Republic. Yoda was attached to the Jedi Order. Obi Wan was similarly attached to the Order and to the concept of Democracy as be believed to be embodied in the Senate, but of course it had long since stopped serving or representing the interests of the great majority of the people of the galaxy.
In an Alternate Timeline: Palpatine: I will help you save the one you love Mace: I will give you the rank of master Anakin: Sold, Master Windu Directed by George Lucas
Anakin wanted to become a Master to save Padme..He wanted access to the knowledge the Order allowed only to the Masters. Palpatine knew this, and he knew the Jedi wouldn't allow Anakin to become a Master. He placed him in the council to accomplish that, nothing else.. Just to grow the spite Anakin feels towards the Jedi Council. This is supported by the new Canon, in the New Vader novels, Vader is refused access to the secret archieve by the Custodian Droid, because Anakin wasn't allowed. He of course smashed the droid apart after that, cuz Vader.
That is what I liked about the prequels. Jedi were made to be saints before the prequels but in reality they had a few problems. It was a little realistic. While the Jedi were good and honorable, they were rather strict and could be somewhat arrogant. I remember in the expanded universe, they dealt with other force orders and those that believed in the light. They did not force convert but still believed their way was superior and would try to convert others and not really tell the Jedi about the other orders so they could discourage others from leaving the order.
@@StarboyXL9 He fought in Italy came home to Mississippi and then walked to Chicago during Jim Crow as a black man. He had to be based no time to be a pussy lol
This is literally what I saw saying in a comment yesterday. Both Dooku and Anakin were tempted with the idea that they could use the power of the the Dark Side to do good, as many other Jedi before them who fell.
I still believe it possible but to for a second believe that helping the greater good of the galaxy doesn't mean committing some evil then the dark side will consume you. Do not make yourself a slave to The Force and do not make yourself a slave to those you try to help prosper and live a life worth living...
Yeah but that's how all evil happens. Stalin believed he was hekling people as did Mao as did Hitler etc. No one is a mustache twiler evil people always think they are the hero
I think the Jedi and Sith represent two extremes. One centered around the "good of the community" and the other the "good of the self". Everything the Jedi are, at least at the time of Episode 1+, is built around the "good of the community" and ironically fear. Wielders of the Dark Side can cause great destruction (Exar Kun, Revan, Revan's apprentice, the guy life drained a planet, the guy that literally couldn't die, etc.). So for the good of the community, and perhaps a little fear of becoming that, they put great restrictions on themselves (taking force user children as infants, not teaching force users past a certain age, banning double bladed lightsabers and hyper aggressive styles, having all teachings be done at a central location, etc.). The Sith on the other hand go "screw that" and do everything for the self and only the self. Only pursuing what will put them ahead. So much so that they become metaphysically weaker if they try to do things for others. The ironic thing about them is that, with all their focus of personal desire, they can't actually pursue all potential desires (If a Sith wanted to genuinely love someone, or help a community, they couldn't do it without losing raw power. So they can't pursue all wants, but only specific wants.)
4:17 the 2nd take sounded better it had more feeling behind it although I saw nothing wrong with the 1st one until I heard the 2nd one and really felt what was being said. Great work keep it up. 👍
Late to the party, but I agree with Mace. The dark side of the Force twists the user into a monster. However… they are still responsible for their fall, as only then can make the choice to use the Force in such a manner that would open them to corruption.
Doubt you’ll read this, Theory, but there is an editing mistake starting around 4:20. You repeated the same phrase about the dark side’s influence being an insanity back to back. Just a heads up...
The entire phrase "Only the Sith deal in absolutes" is ironic, contradictory (depending on who says it) and even a bit paradoxical in and of itself "Only" is an absolute word, therefore if the sith indeed deal in absolutes, then no jedi would say "never" or "only" lest they be deemed a sith They can't even say that phrase without being guilty of it Man i suppose a proper education was never given to those abducted/indoctrinated jedi, god damn
@@spartanwar1185 I wish most people were as good as you to point out incoherences but in "modern" ideologies (especially when they come into practice), I won't try to lecture you but no *surprise* is ever expected in advance.
I still absolutely adore the idea that Palpatine's major goal was to prepare the galaxy for a Yuuzhang Vong invasion. I know it's far off from canon now, but the idea that Palpatine was trying to accomplish a good goal in evil ways adds a whole new dimension to his character. Not power for the sake of power, but at the end of the day, to prevent the galaxy from being wiped out. Mace's take on the dark side being some form of insanity is really interesting. It's like a psychosis you slip into when you don't discipline your use of the force. I've always felt the Jedi motivations are selfish at their core, because while they act altruistically, the reason they do that is to enhance their connection to the force, which they see as paramount above all other things in their lives. Prioritizing one's own "salvation" isn't necessarily rare in even real-world religions, but the selfishness of prioritizing that is supposed to be acknowledged and balanced with good acts. The Jedi don't acknowledge the selfishness, they just say it's all for the sake of good.
I like your phrasing that the Jedi may have been "too attached to nonattachment." This is a consideration I have pondered much over the last couple of years. They became misguided with their tradition of repressing emotions. Passion is an integral part to sentience. Had they learned to work with passion, to accept it as natural, yet keeping their meditations on the Force as a counterbalance, then young Anakin would not have fallen to the dark side.
I always thought it was ridiculous that Jedi would turn away force sensitives who are too old. Don’t you think they would be more likely to fall to the dark side without guidance? Or worse be found and trained by a sith?
The Jedi used to take in Force Sensitives of all ages, until they became so focused on indoctrinating their members that they needed to limit it to children because children are very vulnerable to deep-seated indoctrination whereas adults have more resistance to that.
@Balance of The hill the jedi being deluded and lost was the whole point of the prequel trilogy. Like that guy in fallen order said "the jedi fell long before the purge" the clone wars tv show highlights the degredation of the jedi order to. In all honestly, the jedi had more of a hand in creating darth vader than the sith ever did.
The lore is so muddled and contradictory to what the originals presented. Yoda to Luke - a jedi uses his strength to defend, never attack. All of the prequel stuff discarded that notion
@@Elphin89 no the illusion reveal had me so pumped up and excited when I watched it the first time. It's Luke dying that annoyed me. I didn't like the way it was portrayed as such a draining thing to do. And I was really annoyed about the fact that Luke was never reunited with his friends and family. The only thing we got from that was Leia seeing the illusion.
The fact that Anakin went to seek and save his mother only to find her almost dead, and again the same destiny with Padme, reminds me one of the first phrases of Kung-Fu Panda, when Master Shifu perceives (using the Force?) his previous apprentice will escape and destroy the village and sends a note to the jail to increase the security of Tai-Lung, ultimately causing his escape (through a small feather the delivery guy sent by Shifu dropped inside the jail.... awesome scene by the way!)... Master Oogway says to Master Shifu: "One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it"... Oogway=Yoda, Shifu=Obi Wan, Poo=What Anakin might have been.
That reminds me of the story of Jeacen Solo from legends. There was a prophecy he would fall to the Dark Side, and in his desperation to avoid it, he fell anyway.
0:24 not even palpatine thinks he’s evil, he’s aware that he’s a sadistic merciless monster and is more or less darkness incarnate but he also saw the term evil as just a title to put on enemies like he stated to anakin. The galaxy is just his to rule in his perspective by mandate to the force, anything done to further that goal must be good. Pretty batshit insane but its what it is.
The Jedi got so terrified of the Dark Side that they forgot how to think like humans. That might have worked if they had become monks on some isolated world, but they insisted on constantly interfering with the galaxy's affairs. It's no wonder Palpatine was able to take them apart: they appointed themselves guardians of a galaxy that they couldn't understand or empathize with.
Most of the jedi weren't humans and they were asked and obliged to interfere with stuff happening in the galaxy. Jedi lived undercover for ages etc prior to the clone wars. The image of the elitist jedi who doesn't know shit about the real people is something we only see because we focus so much on the clone wars and the members of the council who were also big into politics.
Actually, baby Vader had his first kill when he accidentally pressed a button and ended up blowing up the federation Control ship as it was full of sentient beings
I personally don’t believe that less Jedi will mean less Sith. Of course there are many Jedi who fall to the dark side and become Sith, but look at Plagueis and Palpatine. Neither of them were ever Jedi. They were both politicians who were eventually trained in the ways of the Sith.
@@jsOliWhite Darth Tenebrous. He was a Bith, the same race as the band in the Mos Eisley Cantina in ANH funny enough. Imagine one of those big-headed, bug-eyed dudes with a red lightsaber
Depends how deep into it you go. Technically, his first kill was by bursting someone into flames right before Obi wans eyes while only a youngling. But that’s if you’re a huge nerd like me 😅
I doubt he ever thought of that as his first kill. Never having to see any people on board, a child would likely not think about there being anything other than droids on the droid control ship. It wouldn't have been until he was a few years older he would have even learnt that there would have been people on board. By that point he already had his first in-person kill, something much more visceral and 'real' than a long-distance kill-shot on a spaceship, when he combusted a mook in front of Kenobi. So yeah, the droid control ship was his first kill from our perspective, but not from his.
@@jmcobbett94 So in essence little Ani was a pyromaniac? Once he felt the power of the Dark side it was only a matter of time before he would not go back.
To answer your question. Does less Jedi = less Sith? I don't think so. As Jaden Solo pointed out whether or not you fall to the dark side is between you and the force. That the force has its own plan and it can't be stopped. Also gonna grab one from Chirut Imwe. " I do not fear for all of this is as the force wills it"... So no there wouldn't be less. There would be the exact amount that the force wants there to be. Second I'd like to address the question about the Jedi, and their fixed position on attachments. After Revan was captured by Bastilla Shan. Brought back to the Republic and turned back to the light. Revan explains how it was his love for Bastilla that brought him back to the light. That in the same way the Sith used fear, anger, and hatred to intensify their connection to the force the Jedi could use happiness, love, and all the emotions on the positive spectrum to intensify their connection to the force. And that if a Jedi fell to the dark because of the loss of an attachment then it was the fault of the Jedi Order for having inadequately trained the person who falls to deal with the loss of said attachment. Had the Jedi not dismissed the teachings of Revan . I believe Anakin may have never fallen.
@@JustHereToLurkYT I mean yeah kinda. The only rule for the Sith is power. As long as you don't let anyone stronger or more ruthless than you become a Sith you can live a pretty good and fulfilling life and not be a *complete* psycho.
On the attachment point. The Order easily could’ve been less strict on attachment. Perhaps by allowing Jedi to have attachments of any sort it could’ve been taught and presented differently. With this new teaching on attachment they could present how to deal with the emotions that come from attachment. It could’ve made a huge difference in many characters we see in Star Wars, such as Obi-Wan/Satine, Anakin/Padmé, and various others.
They probably could’ve turned attachment into something that strengthened the Jedi in the order but they decided to just try to stop them from having them entirely
@@senatorluxbonteri6065 It could have been something that strengthened the order. Instead of fighting to uphold a corrupt political entity, the Jedi could fight for the good and protection of those whom they loved (the Jedi and their family and friends) . That is more of an incentive.
Dark Side enhance the person's underlining flaws. Arrogance, Anger, Lust, Greed and other dark side traits gets enhance fully by embracing the Dark Side.
Anakin bringing balance to the force was done beautifully in the Star Wars Cannon. It meant destroying the Jedi in bed with Senate in large numbers and matching the loss of numbers in the Dark side from the time of Bane Rule of two cleansing of armies of Sith. So there was probably same amount of Jedi as Sith when Vader killed palpatine in episode VI (really just crippled his prime level). It required everything to go as it did to clean out all the Jedis doing nothing but the bidding its service to the Senate as opposed to the force itself. The Darkside was meant to come stronger than ever with the fewer of them to execute such balance checking. So Luke later on started to rise in power as Palpatine was still around trying to in secrecy wield some influence and finding a new vessel for his power. Force likes check and balances no matter what side you sit on the fence.
The gray Jedi like the Imperial Knigjts from the EU would have been great examples of balancing power with responsibility. They did not hesitate to get the job done yet at most times they were careful where to draw the line so that they didn't end up becoming corrupted murderous psychopaths
The jedi are particularly vulnerable to the darkside because they dont know anything about it , they train ignoring its existence just like they ignore their emotions instead of learning to deal with them
This is amazing Theory. I really understand now what Yoda was talking about, when he spoke to Anakin about Padme. The Jedi prefer to remain neutral and only attack if the force calls for it; because like Mace said, if a Jedi use the force for their own personal agenda; they will more so be control by the will of the Force rather than being guided by it. So like the Sith using it for power and strength and their personal desires. Brilliant. Great vid again bro. Also, would love to see how the Gray Jedi uses the force. Are they balance? Using it for strength and being guided by it?
The Jedi are similar to the ancient Buddha monks, in that they strove for peace and tranquility and believed in discipline and honor among your fellow brethren. They also are inventors of Martial Arts, a deadly fighting style in case anyone were to, uuuh, you know, get a little too curious. Lol.
I just want you to know I really enjoy videos you make based on or explaining stories within comics or novels since I don't have the money to pay for them to read myself. I am sure I am not fully alone in this.
Fan-Fic suggestions: 1. "What if Anakin Skywalker was a Jedi Shadow or Jedi Sage or Jedi Consular?" 2. "What if Sheev Palpatine didn't kill his family?" 3. "What if Leia Skywalker Organa Solo turned to the Dark Side after the destruction of Alderaan?" 4. "What if Kit Fisto became the apprentice of Darth Sidious?"
@@chongwillson972 dude batman was a hero that became villian. Harvey Dent died a hero after being a villian. Are you talking bout people on the boat? Otherwise idk wtf your talking bout.
When I first met Jolee Bindo I started to "believe" that the Jedi way is not the best, if I would be in that reality I would definitely would walk in the middle.
Strange how many people think that, since objectively he's probably one of the best Jedi of all time. If someone reads novels and comics with him you can see how pragmatic and logical his decision making is. It's funny how just being rude sometimes makes so many people dislike him. He's actually possibly the bigger example of an underrated character I can think off.
He was apprehensive about Anakin because lets face it, Anakin should never have been a Jedi. He saw the dark side within Anakin and so was cautious. That being said he was kinda surly so I get why people think he was a dick. But also people saying he was a one of the best Jedi and true to the original ideology are kinda missing how he became a general and soldier in the war just like the rest of the Jedi. A true Jedi adhering strictly to the ways of the light side would've refused to be a part of the war and left the order, which is why the Jedi had to fall to bring balance to the force
Fear is the path to the Dark side. The jedi always lived in fear of their emotions and of the dark side. The Jedi council lived in Huberis to believe they were beyond fear just as they constantly were in fear that jedi in their order would fall to the dark side of the force. This fear ruled thir actions to try to eliminate emotions from the jedi including love, and to forbid attachments. They were in such fear that instead of teaching jedi how to handle love and loss, they are taught to run away from it. This all is the reason the jedi have fallen time and memorial.
Mace was a hypocritical scumbag. He even accepted Quinlin Voss, who killed his own Padawan and other Jedi as Dooku’s lapdog, but outright refused to acknowledge or help Anakin, even when Anakin revealed Palpatine was in fact the Sith they sent him to spy on.
You should do a what if of Qui-Gon Jinn surviving to teach Anakin and how he would react to Anakin asking for his help in finding and rescuing his mother. Also how the public viewed the Sith (At different points in history).
@@lombebwalya1265 I think to be fair they were taking the side of the legitimate government which is supposed to serve the people. Maintaining the legitimate law blinded them to their drift away from idealistic peace keeping.
Hey @Star Wars Theory!! love your work and listen to you alot!! Just a heads up that you have an editing double between 4:18 and 4:40 but love this look into Mace so much!!
@@TheRealBruhGod Even in a galaxy far, far away black guys still love that grape soda XD What, you guys didn't notice that Mace Windu, the black Jedi Council member has a grape soda-flavored lightsaber?
I think one thing I want to add to the Dark Side insanity is that its probably one of few ways people have seen it. For instance, in Shadows of the Empire, Luke envisions the Dark Side as some sort of predatory entity(true ig)during one of his trainings. He ran.
Yep i agree they should have allowed attachment, feelings and personal attachments,but be taught how to deal with those feelings. They should have taught them about what the dark sider believe and feel, so they would then be able to defend against it , be able to recognise it and then be able to defend against the people who used it , and also be able to recognise it in themselves
Interesting I always saw the Sith as the pragmatic ones, since they don't hold themselves to standards they cannot meet. I really like Windu because Vapaad, but I feel like Jedis are more cultish than Siths. Since the Sith mantra(?) Seems amoral, as in can be interpreted in either way. Perhaps boosting already toxic characteristics of an individual
Hector Alarcon a few respectable dark side users I like to remember are: Darth Marr, Darth Revan, Darth Vectivus, Darth Plagueis, Darth Malgus (False Emperor), Prince Arcann, Lord Scourge, Ajunta Pall, Mother Talzin, Asajj Ventress (Post-Betrayal), Darth Kreia, Lord Hazen, and a few others. Yeah, each and everyone of the people on this list did some pretty fucked up stuff but they have redeeming qualities and actions that were quite commendable and genuinely "good" and not just for benefit of themselves...
Yes like with Ezra and Kanan. Ezra learned some teachings from Maul but did not go to to dark side. Merely used some stronger techniques of force manipulation to help get them out. . I think Master Qui Gonn would have helped and guided Skywalker to make the right decisions.
Yeah, you came to the right place. Theory knows alot about Star Wars, maybe even more then I do. Even though I am older then he is. He has alot more $ than I do, do he can afford all the books and games that I can't afford. And he has a really nice computer. Mine is old, and I can't even play games on it.
The numbers aren't set. We know that more people converted from one order to the other in the old days (Jedi falling/Sith being redeemed) but that's about it.
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Windu: we are keepers of the peace, not soldiers.
Palpatine: didn't you chop a man's head off?
Windu: peacefully.
Underrated comment.
Haha. The man surrendered and windu promised he would die quickly
Windu (under his breath): MOTHA*****!
an in the lego game they kick it around like a soccer ball (lego star wars 3 clone wars)
Shayan tho i agree with you, please remember this was nothing more than a joke...
Suggestions: how much did the average Jedi know about the Sith and how did normal people view force sensitives
In KOTOR2, most normal people couldn't distinguish between a Sith or a Jedi. They viewed them as different factions of the same religion.
Special people that could use magic basically
Yes. More coverage of average Jedi during prequel era
Most people are dumb and uneducated and can't tell there's much difference.
this is legends. but a good way to put it into perspective. is comen people tended to refer to the sith wars as Jedi civil wars
Mace Windu: gets thrown out of a window
Palps: The dark side is a pathway to many abilities... Some considered to be IRONIC
Ironic. He could save others from death, but not himself. Unless...
Ha ha this is a good one, the child's father,
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Theory this is soo spot on great work at cracking the code, if they had any sense they would get you on board as a consultant, you get the nuonsices of sw more than than anyone 👍
Can you imagine being a Sith unironically?
I love that you call him Palps
Comparing it to the mcu, specifically some dialogue said in Captain America: Civil war, Vision tells Tony that ever since he came out as iron man there will always be someone wanting to challenge him and the avengers. I think this applies to Star Wars. As long as there are Jedi, there are going to be force wielders who disagree with their way. Hence the need for a balance in the force. Can’t have good without bad! That’s what life is about
Quite right! That is why you cannot defeat the Sith without destroying the Jedi. If even one Jedi survives, a dark counterpart will eventually rise to challenge them. Kreia in KOTOR 2 realized this, which is why she tried to destroy the Force itself.
@@WalkerIGP Which is why i think post sequel, the new Jedi Order will be more of an order of Grey Jedi, which is highlighted in the failure of the jedi in TLJ and they're downfall in ROTS
Kryptic that’s a really interesting theory! I feel like Rey would be the Grand Master of that Grey Jedi Order and will train younglings such as that Broom Boy from TLJ and other force sensitive children. Let’s hope that there are no more Palpatine clones, or empire’s etc 😂
@@MrRen847 I mean both remnants of both orders are dead by the end of TROS, Luke has become one with the force and the Emperor is dead for good. REy has learnt the Jedi was flawed from ROTS and Luke didn't see this and only realised this when he became the Last Jedi. REy sees that its time for something new for Millennia of War, with her yellow lightsaber representing a new, balanced order of peace, something the Jedi once were.
The problem with that is, there were Sith who were the actual race of the Sith. They were who and what they were because of their lust for more power. The Sith aren’t like the Democrats or Republicans, who just exist to counter act the other. Sith were, and are Sith for very selfish reasons that have nothing to do with the opinions or actions of the Jedi. They always try to squash the Jedi because the Jedi get in their way, but then again, they do that to everyone else who gets in their way too not just Jedi. And even if the Sith ceased to be, the Jedi would still find the need to keep peace between the people of the galaxy, which rules out the necessity of the Sith to exist. Either way there is “the force”, and even if every force user refrained from creating orders and groups, there would still be dark and light users who inevitably adopted Sith or Jedi habits simply due to the nature of the force.
so. the Jedi were too attached to nonattachment. neat.
"ironic"
"Cinori"
Kinda gay frrl XD
They couldn't see the forest for the trees.
isn't lightsaber fighting a form of attachment as well? i mean the jedi have been doing it for their entire lives as well as the many centuries their order has been doing 😅
Me: Wait mace didnt believe the jedi council is fully good?
Star wars theory: Never has been
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@@LLL-zx6dw Idk this comment seems knida gae to me
Well its hardly news. The Jedi have never represented the absolute moral good, and have always been more pragmatic or neutral good. They even killed many people, or were prepared to countenance, even partake in, the devastation of planets and cultures.
That's the problem with the concept of 'the greater good'. It is morally ambiguous and can always be used to justify evil.
Thank you. The grey Jedi was suppose to happen and they fucking ruined it
If you're from the outer rim or a desolate planet like Tatooine... how would you view some mysterious guild of wizards that never seem to have clear cut intentions, can do or kill just about ANYTHING in the galaxy, and does pretty much whatever the Senate says?
Guess what! When the Sith got in power in their small numbers of Sidious and Vader and their Empire, they did more death, destruction and chaos to the galaxy than the Jedi every did in a 1000 years since when Bane created the rule of two. They killed billions and planned on killing more to rule and stay ruling. They destroyed Alderan and would have destroy more planets if the first Death Star wasn't destroyed in Stars a New Hope! We can talk about the flaws of the Jedi but they were basically pawns of the Senate and the Republic. If they stayed out of the politics or followed the will of the force, the people would still suffer but not as much under the Sith and their Empire. The movie the Siege with Annette Benning who was with the CIA and Denzel Washington who was with the FBA had a great scene where terrorist had hijacked bus in New York City. Benning character recognized the scene before from the Middle East. She asked Denzel character did they have the shooters in place. She told them out to take them out. Denzel looked at her kind of stunned. Her reply was you rather lose a little or lose alot. Denzel tried to negotiate with them. Minutes later the bus blew up after a few hostages from the bus were let go. I say all this to say, even with the Jedi being un-perfect, the galaxy slowly over time lost a little. However, with the Sith Empire under Palpatine, the galaxy lost alot in just over 20 year reign in power.
The Jedi were attached to the rule of attachment
Everyone: IRONIC
Well, they actually did have attachments. Even the supposed 'model' ones. Windu was attached and totally devoted to the Republic. Yoda was attached to the Jedi Order. Obi Wan was similarly attached to the Order and to the concept of Democracy as be believed to be embodied in the Senate, but of course it had long since stopped serving or representing the interests of the great majority of the people of the galaxy.
*_From my point of view, the Jedi are evil!!_*
Hello Anakin
Hey, Ani!!
This is getting out of hand!...now I have two wives!
@@anakinskywalker549 Oh no.
@@anakinskywalker549 just kill one in anger and live happily with the other
In an Alternate Timeline:
Palpatine: I will help you save the one you love
Mace: I will give you the rank of master
Anakin: Sold, Master Windu
Directed by George Lucas
Anakin wanted to become a Master to save Padme..He wanted access to the knowledge the Order allowed only to the Masters. Palpatine knew this, and he knew the Jedi wouldn't allow Anakin to become a Master. He placed him in the council to accomplish that, nothing else.. Just to grow the spite Anakin feels towards the Jedi Council. This is supported by the new Canon, in the New Vader novels, Vader is refused access to the secret archieve by the Custodian Droid, because Anakin wasn't allowed. He of course smashed the droid apart after that, cuz Vader.
@@Batuhanify never try to stop Vader or he'll kill you
Sad part is that is probably why he asked him to wait in the council chambers
@@tivionte961 holy shit thats a good point he was probably going to become master after the arrest lmfao
@@dannycujoh516 yea
That is what I liked about the prequels. Jedi were made to be saints before the prequels but in reality they had a few problems. It was a little realistic. While the Jedi were good and honorable, they were rather strict and could be somewhat arrogant. I remember in the expanded universe, they dealt with other force orders and those that believed in the light. They did not force convert but still believed their way was superior and would try to convert others and not really tell the Jedi about the other orders so they could discourage others from leaving the order.
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The Jedi are peace keepers not soldiers
Ki-adi-Mundi: bring out the flamethrowers
XD
Also I started reading shatter point XD
Sometimes keeping peace means smoking a few bugs
Kevinkee nope
Senator Lux Bonteri true XD
Devils Advocate: How many monks have prevented wars over the past century?
"You're going to find that many of the truths we (Jedi )cling to depend greatly on our own point of view."
Mace Windu understood that some problems are too big to fix, and that they need to be destroyed.
"Some folks just need killling" My grandfather
@@michaelhowze8198 You Grandfather sounds pretty based.
@@StarboyXL9 He fought in Italy came home to Mississippi and then walked to Chicago during Jim Crow as a black man. He had to be based no time to be a pussy lol
This is literally what I saw saying in a comment yesterday. Both Dooku and Anakin were tempted with the idea that they could use the power of the the Dark Side to do good, as many other Jedi before them who fell.
I still believe it possible but to for a second believe that helping the greater good of the galaxy doesn't mean committing some evil then the dark side will consume you. Do not make yourself a slave to The Force and do not make yourself a slave to those you try to help prosper and live a life worth living...
Nick Dreader That’s not cannon so no.
@@astro.8888 that doesn't mean it isn't (and wasn't) possible. Whatever, Disney Canon is just glorified fanfic; bad fanfic at that...
Yeah but that's how all evil happens. Stalin believed he was hekling people as did Mao as did Hitler etc. No one is a mustache twiler evil people always think they are the hero
@@blackshogun272 Yeah I refuse to acknowledge Disney as the true canon
Wow. What an interesting insight into Mace Windu and his thoughts, tactics and ideology.
I think the Jedi and Sith represent two extremes. One centered around the "good of the community" and the other the "good of the self".
Everything the Jedi are, at least at the time of Episode 1+, is built around the "good of the community" and ironically fear. Wielders of the Dark Side can cause great destruction (Exar Kun, Revan, Revan's apprentice, the guy life drained a planet, the guy that literally couldn't die, etc.). So for the good of the community, and perhaps a little fear of becoming that, they put great restrictions on themselves (taking force user children as infants, not teaching force users past a certain age, banning double bladed lightsabers and hyper aggressive styles, having all teachings be done at a central location, etc.).
The Sith on the other hand go "screw that" and do everything for the self and only the self. Only pursuing what will put them ahead. So much so that they become metaphysically weaker if they try to do things for others. The ironic thing about them is that, with all their focus of personal desire, they can't actually pursue all potential desires (If a Sith wanted to genuinely love someone, or help a community, they couldn't do it without losing raw power. So they can't pursue all wants, but only specific wants.)
Dammm I didn't bother to read anything you said but that's a whole speech
Those guys were Darth Nihilus (drained a planet) and Darth Sion (couldn't die).
"good of the community" and "good of the self"
That's basically left and right (comunism and republican)
Light Sith ftw tho
Too bad they didn't have a party of Grey Jedi for a moderate third option
“You are on this council, but we do not grant you the rank of MASTAH.”
This is outrageous, it's unfair
How can you be on the council, and not be a master
How can you be on the council, and not be a master!?
"Take a SEAT, young Skywalker"
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4:17 the 2nd take sounded better it had more feeling behind it although I saw nothing wrong with the 1st one until I heard the 2nd one and really felt what was being said. Great work keep it up. 👍
Spectacular Job On the video May the Force Be with you Always
Late to the party, but I agree with Mace. The dark side of the Force twists the user into a monster. However… they are still responsible for their fall, as only then can make the choice to use the Force in such a manner that would open them to corruption.
Doubt you’ll read this, Theory, but there is an editing mistake starting around 4:20. You repeated the same phrase about the dark side’s influence being an insanity back to back. Just a heads up...
I noticed that too. I thought I was just going insane lol
Yeah, I noticed as well.
That's not the only mistake
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The beginning of the video is in the middle as well
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I should have known the Jedi were plotting to take over.
Chancellor Palpatine is evil
@@TheRK77 from my point of view the jedi are evil
NabSky Legion then you are lost
This end for you my master
Obi wan and Anakin reach land
.....
"its over anakin i hve the hig ground"
Those were great points - thank you for exploring these ideas!
"Do or do not, there is no try" - Yoda.
And then only Sith deal in absolutes? BS!
"Do or do not" is about living in the moment. Only absolute in the speech.
The entire phrase "Only the Sith deal in absolutes" is ironic, contradictory (depending on who says it) and even a bit paradoxical in and of itself
"Only" is an absolute word, therefore if the sith indeed deal in absolutes, then no jedi would say "never" or "only" lest they be deemed a sith
They can't even say that phrase without being guilty of it
Man i suppose a proper education was never given to those abducted/indoctrinated jedi, god damn
@@spartanwar1185 I wish most people were as good as you to point out incoherences but in "modern" ideologies (especially when they come into practice), I won't try to lecture you but no *surprise* is ever expected in advance.
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Mace Windu: You are under arrest, Chancellor
Palpatine: Swirly Swirly Swirl
Palpatine :LET IT RIP
SWOOSH
I still absolutely adore the idea that Palpatine's major goal was to prepare the galaxy for a Yuuzhang Vong invasion. I know it's far off from canon now, but the idea that Palpatine was trying to accomplish a good goal in evil ways adds a whole new dimension to his character. Not power for the sake of power, but at the end of the day, to prevent the galaxy from being wiped out.
Mace's take on the dark side being some form of insanity is really interesting. It's like a psychosis you slip into when you don't discipline your use of the force. I've always felt the Jedi motivations are selfish at their core, because while they act altruistically, the reason they do that is to enhance their connection to the force, which they see as paramount above all other things in their lives. Prioritizing one's own "salvation" isn't necessarily rare in even real-world religions, but the selfishness of prioritizing that is supposed to be acknowledged and balanced with good acts. The Jedi don't acknowledge the selfishness, they just say it's all for the sake of good.
Shit that would've been a good 3rd trilogy, instead of the rewritten horseshit Disney crapped out
I like your phrasing that the Jedi may have been "too attached to nonattachment." This is a consideration I have pondered much over the last couple of years. They became misguided with their tradition of repressing emotions. Passion is an integral part to sentience. Had they learned to work with passion, to accept it as natural, yet keeping their meditations on the Force as a counterbalance, then young Anakin would not have fallen to the dark side.
Mace Windu understood that the opposite of war/fighting is not always peace and that sometimes one has to be ready to take a few heads.
mace windu's force ghost, to anakin's force ghost: *take a seat, young skywalker*
You may have slain the sith lord and restored balance to the force. But we do not grant you the title of master.
I always thought it was ridiculous that Jedi would turn away force sensitives who are too old. Don’t you think they would be more likely to fall to the dark side without guidance? Or worse be found and trained by a sith?
The Jedi used to take in Force Sensitives of all ages, until they became so focused on indoctrinating their members that they needed to limit it to children because children are very vulnerable to deep-seated indoctrination whereas adults have more resistance to that.
@Balance of The hill the jedi being deluded and lost was the whole point of the prequel trilogy. Like that guy in fallen order said "the jedi fell long before the purge" the clone wars tv show highlights the degredation of the jedi order to. In all honestly, the jedi had more of a hand in creating darth vader than the sith ever did.
Windu was a representation of why the Jedi Order was faltering.
He's actually more of a representation of how it should have been. He's just being a dick most of the time though so most people don't like him.
I think that’s dooku
The lore is so muddled and contradictory to what the originals presented. Yoda to Luke - a jedi uses his strength to defend, never attack. All of the prequel stuff discarded that notion
And then people moaned when Luke used a force projection to stall the first order - but ironically that’s the most jedi way to ‘fight’ someone
@@Elphin89 no the illusion reveal had me so pumped up and excited when I watched it the first time. It's Luke dying that annoyed me. I didn't like the way it was portrayed as such a draining thing to do. And I was really annoyed about the fact that Luke was never reunited with his friends and family. The only thing we got from that was Leia seeing the illusion.
One of the reasons i left the order, no not every Jedi was as nice as people said they were
Just like dont be a dick
A famous line of the jedi code
Ashoka ur character sucks
You literally left the Jedi because it became too political for you and went snowflake mode
@@ausername4487 ur entitled to your opinion.
@@burrito8443 nope, it's because she could tell how trash the jedi were
Star Wars kinda feels like how the real world is. Like people with power, thinking one way is the only way as well, etc.
The fact that Anakin went to seek and save his mother only to find her almost dead, and again the same destiny with Padme, reminds me one of the first phrases of Kung-Fu Panda, when Master Shifu perceives (using the Force?) his previous apprentice will escape and destroy the village and sends a note to the jail to increase the security of Tai-Lung, ultimately causing his escape (through a small feather the delivery guy sent by Shifu dropped inside the jail.... awesome scene by the way!)... Master Oogway says to Master Shifu: "One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it"... Oogway=Yoda, Shifu=Obi Wan, Poo=What Anakin might have been.
That reminds me of the story of Jeacen Solo from legends. There was a prophecy he would fall to the Dark Side, and in his desperation to avoid it, he fell anyway.
@@englishlady9797 Like that! That's why the Jedi by doing "nothing" avoid responsibility...
So interesting! I never knew that Mace had an issue with the Jedi during this time.
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0:24 not even palpatine thinks he’s evil, he’s aware that he’s a sadistic merciless monster and is more or less darkness incarnate but he also saw the term evil as just a title to put on enemies like he stated to anakin. The galaxy is just his to rule in his perspective by mandate to the force, anything done to further that goal must be good. Pretty batshit insane but its what it is.
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Cool Mace Windu vid!
The Jedi got so terrified of the Dark Side that they forgot how to think like humans. That might have worked if they had become monks on some isolated world, but they insisted on constantly interfering with the galaxy's affairs. It's no wonder Palpatine was able to take them apart: they appointed themselves guardians of a galaxy that they couldn't understand or empathize with.
Star Wars entered the MCU when you said Guardians of the Galaxy
Most of the jedi weren't humans and they were asked and obliged to interfere with stuff happening in the galaxy. Jedi lived undercover for ages etc prior to the clone wars. The image of the elitist jedi who doesn't know shit about the real people is something we only see because we focus so much on the clone wars and the members of the council who were also big into politics.
@@poggylp1169 well said.
Well said.
The Jedi became in many ways like the Templars.
Actually, baby Vader had his first kill when he accidentally pressed a button and ended up blowing up the federation Control ship as it was full of sentient beings
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I personally don’t believe that less Jedi will mean less Sith. Of course there are many Jedi who fall to the dark side and become Sith, but look at Plagueis and Palpatine. Neither of them were ever Jedi. They were both politicians who were eventually trained in the ways of the Sith.
Was Plagueis not trained by some dude with tentacles on his chin, don’t know his name....
@@jsOliWhite Darth Tenebrous. He was a Bith, the same race as the band in the Mos Eisley Cantina in ANH funny enough. Imagine one of those big-headed, bug-eyed dudes with a red lightsaber
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I thought Anakin's first kills is when he blew up the trade federation Ship?
Facts. That was accidental not premeditated though to be fair
Depends how deep into it you go. Technically, his first kill was by bursting someone into flames right before Obi wans eyes while only a youngling. But that’s if you’re a huge nerd like me 😅
I doubt he ever thought of that as his first kill. Never having to see any people on board, a child would likely not think about there being anything other than droids on the droid control ship.
It wouldn't have been until he was a few years older he would have even learnt that there would have been people on board.
By that point he already had his first in-person kill, something much more visceral and 'real' than a long-distance kill-shot on a spaceship, when he combusted a mook in front of Kenobi.
So yeah, the droid control ship was his first kill from our perspective, but not from his.
@@jmcobbett94 So in essence little Ani was a pyromaniac? Once he felt the power of the Dark side it was only a matter of time before he would not go back.
@@jmcobbett94 technically that trade federation ship went kaboom before Anakin even became a youngling, nerd XD
To answer your question. Does less Jedi = less Sith? I don't think so. As Jaden Solo pointed out whether or not you fall to the dark side is between you and the force. That the force has its own plan and it can't be stopped. Also gonna grab one from Chirut Imwe. " I do not fear for all of this is as the force wills it"... So no there wouldn't be less. There would be the exact amount that the force wants there to be.
Second I'd like to address the question about the Jedi, and their fixed position on attachments. After Revan was captured by Bastilla Shan. Brought back to the Republic and turned back to the light. Revan explains how it was his love for Bastilla that brought him back to the light. That in the same way the Sith used fear, anger, and hatred to intensify their connection to the force the Jedi could use happiness, love, and all the emotions on the positive spectrum to intensify their connection to the force. And that if a Jedi fell to the dark because of the loss of an attachment then it was the fault of the Jedi Order for having inadequately trained the person who falls to deal with the loss of said attachment. Had the Jedi not dismissed the teachings of Revan . I believe Anakin may have never fallen.
Jedi: We're peace keepers and uphold justice.
Also Jedi: Lets kidnap force sensitive babies.
What’s wrong with that u want them to become a sith nigga
@@JustHereToLurkYT If they choose to yep. Personal choice is important anything less is slavery
@@michaelhowze8198 please don’t have a kid
@@JustHereToLurkYT I mean yeah kinda. The only rule for the Sith is power. As long as you don't let anyone stronger or more ruthless than you become a Sith you can live a pretty good and fulfilling life and not be a *complete* psycho.
On the attachment point. The Order easily could’ve been less strict on attachment. Perhaps by allowing Jedi to have attachments of any sort it could’ve been taught and presented differently. With this new teaching on attachment they could present how to deal with the emotions that come from attachment. It could’ve made a huge difference in many characters we see in Star Wars, such as Obi-Wan/Satine, Anakin/Padmé, and various others.
They probably could’ve turned attachment into something that strengthened the Jedi in the order but they decided to just try to stop them from having them entirely
@@senatorluxbonteri6065 It could have been something that strengthened the order. Instead of fighting to uphold a corrupt political entity, the Jedi could fight for the good and protection of those whom they loved (the Jedi and their family and friends) . That is more of an incentive.
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Dark Side enhance the person's underlining flaws. Arrogance, Anger, Lust, Greed and other dark side traits gets enhance fully by embracing the Dark Side.
Anakin bringing balance to the force was done beautifully in the Star Wars Cannon. It meant destroying the Jedi in bed with Senate in large numbers and matching the loss of numbers in the Dark side from the time of Bane Rule of two cleansing of armies of Sith.
So there was probably same amount of Jedi as Sith when Vader killed palpatine in episode VI (really just crippled his prime level).
It required everything to go as it did to clean out all the Jedis doing nothing but the bidding its service to the Senate as opposed to the force itself. The Darkside was meant to come stronger than ever with the fewer of them to execute such balance checking. So Luke later on started to rise in power as Palpatine was still around trying to in secrecy wield some influence and finding a new vessel for his power.
Force likes check and balances no matter what side you sit on the fence.
The gray Jedi like the Imperial Knigjts from the EU would have been great examples of balancing power with responsibility. They did not hesitate to get the job done yet at most times they were careful where to draw the line so that they didn't end up becoming corrupted murderous psychopaths
I got chills when I heard the music at the start
The jedi are particularly vulnerable to the darkside because they dont know anything about it , they train ignoring its existence just like they ignore their emotions instead of learning to deal with them
Emotion is not to be ignored; that's dangerous. It's simply not to be indulged.
Its very Jungian. They were only vulnerable to evil because they ignored the evil that dwells in their own hearts.
This is amazing Theory. I really understand now what Yoda was talking about, when he spoke to Anakin about Padme. The Jedi prefer to remain neutral and only attack if the force calls for it; because like Mace said, if a Jedi use the force for their own personal agenda; they will more so be control by the will of the Force rather than being guided by it. So like the Sith using it for power and strength and their personal desires. Brilliant. Great vid again bro.
Also, would love to see how the Gray Jedi uses the force. Are they balance? Using it for strength and being guided by it?
The Jedi are similar to the ancient Buddha monks, in that they strove for peace and tranquility and believed in discipline and honor among your fellow brethren. They also are inventors of Martial Arts, a deadly fighting style in case anyone were to, uuuh, you know, get a little too curious. Lol.
Loved this video!
They should've believed in attachment a little. Yoda said it himself, the galaxy had changed but the Jedi had not. Because he would not let them.
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Fan-Fic suggestions:
1. "What if Anakin Skywalker was a Jedi Shadow or Jedi Sage or Jedi Consular?"
2. "What if Sheev Palpatine didn't kill his family?"
3. "What if Leia Skywalker Organa Solo turned to the Dark Side after the destruction of Alderaan?"
4. "What if Kit Fisto became the apprentice of Darth Sidious?"
"less jedi, less sith."
Anakin: "less padawan, less jedi."
I like how well synced Sidious's mouth moving and you talking were at the very start
he said the same phrase about the sith being insane twice lol
4:14 I thought I was tripping out when I heard it
I thought I was having a stroke
I think it was an editing error, lol unless he was hinting to us that he’s giving in to the dark side (insanity) lol
@@jacobmarshall1232 probably but that stood out more than his point did lol
And then seemingly starting a new video shortly afterwards.
Excellent video.
you either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain.
This happened to anakin
wasnt that proven wrong in the same movie, it was said ?
@@chongwillson972 dude batman was a hero that became villian. Harvey Dent died a hero after being a villian. Are you talking bout people on the boat? Otherwise idk wtf your talking bout.
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When I first met Jolee Bindo I started to "believe" that the Jedi way is not the best, if I would be in that reality I would definitely would walk in the middle.
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I always thought Windu as the problem with the old Jedi Order.
Strange how many people think that, since objectively he's probably one of the best Jedi of all time. If someone reads novels and comics with him you can see how pragmatic and logical his decision making is. It's funny how just being rude sometimes makes so many people dislike him.
He's actually possibly the bigger example of an underrated character I can think off.
@Davin S His temperament was coarse, like sand.
I thought he was one of the few Jedi with his head on straight.
Without windu more Jedi would of lost the battle of geonosis and no Jedi would know about shatter point
He was apprehensive about Anakin because lets face it, Anakin should never have been a Jedi. He saw the dark side within Anakin and so was cautious. That being said he was kinda surly so I get why people think he was a dick. But also people saying he was a one of the best Jedi and true to the original ideology are kinda missing how he became a general and soldier in the war just like the rest of the Jedi. A true Jedi adhering strictly to the ways of the light side would've refused to be a part of the war and left the order, which is why the Jedi had to fall to bring balance to the force
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Fear is the path to the Dark side. The jedi always lived in fear of their emotions and of the dark side. The Jedi council lived in Huberis to believe they were beyond fear just as they constantly were in fear that jedi in their order would fall to the dark side of the force. This fear ruled thir actions to try to eliminate emotions from the jedi including love, and to forbid attachments. They were in such fear that instead of teaching jedi how to handle love and loss, they are taught to run away from it. This all is the reason the jedi have fallen time and memorial.
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Mace was a hypocritical scumbag. He even accepted Quinlin Voss, who killed his own Padawan and other Jedi as Dooku’s lapdog, but outright refused to acknowledge or help Anakin, even when Anakin revealed Palpatine was in fact the Sith they sent him to spy on.
They better make a series of Mace Windu
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You should do a what if of Qui-Gon Jinn surviving to teach Anakin and how he would react to Anakin asking for his help in finding and rescuing his mother. Also how the public viewed the Sith (At different points in history).
"We're peacekeepers" lol they pick a side which peace keepers don't do
Well, the UN kind of do....or exploit local women for prostitution. Oopps, did I say that out loud.
@@englishlady9797true won't deny it but that doesn't justify the Jedi doing it
@@lombebwalya1265 I think to be fair they were taking the side of the legitimate government which is supposed to serve the people. Maintaining the legitimate law blinded them to their drift away from idealistic peace keeping.
@@englishlady9797 kek
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Too attached to non-attachment.
"Ironic."
Hey @Star Wars Theory!! love your work and listen to you alot!! Just a heads up that you have an editing double between 4:18 and 4:40 but love this look into Mace so much!!
Ya he got a purple lightsaber for a reason.
Because he pick the purple light saber
Because Samuel Jackson said "I want a purple one."
Speedy- Tarmarindo how did I know someone was gonna say that....
@@TheRealBruhGod Even in a galaxy far, far away black guys still love that grape soda XD
What, you guys didn't notice that Mace Windu, the black Jedi Council member has a grape soda-flavored lightsaber?
@@EmilianoGonzalez11n6 Also because purple is a mix of blue and red.
I think one thing I want to add to the Dark Side insanity is that its probably one of few ways people have seen it. For instance, in Shadows of the Empire, Luke envisions the Dark Side as some sort of predatory entity(true ig)during one of his trainings. He ran.
5:39 I almost clicked off. Meant to split this up into two videos?
Yep i agree they should have allowed attachment, feelings and personal attachments,but be taught how to deal with those feelings. They should have taught them about what the dark sider believe and feel, so they would then be able to defend against it , be able to recognise it and then be able to defend against the people who used it , and also be able to recognise it in themselves
Interesting I always saw the Sith as the pragmatic ones, since they don't hold themselves to standards they cannot meet. I really like Windu because Vapaad, but I feel like Jedis are more cultish than Siths. Since the Sith mantra(?) Seems amoral, as in can be interpreted in either way. Perhaps boosting already toxic characteristics of an individual
Hector Alarcon a few respectable dark side users I like to remember are: Darth Marr, Darth Revan, Darth Vectivus, Darth Plagueis, Darth Malgus (False Emperor), Prince Arcann, Lord Scourge, Ajunta Pall, Mother Talzin, Asajj Ventress (Post-Betrayal), Darth Kreia, Lord Hazen, and a few others.
Yeah, each and everyone of the people on this list did some pretty fucked up stuff but they have redeeming qualities and actions that were quite commendable and genuinely "good" and not just for benefit of themselves...
@@blackshogun272 I love Kreia. She is extremely interesting; I'm so sad we probably wont get a remastered KOTOR
Sith were a radically individualist philosophy. Darwinists on steroids with magic powers.
@@blackshogun272 Darth Imperius is another one, as is every Light-side Sith character in SWTOR.
That was a good theory breakdown bro, one could even write a paper about that. Good work cuz
4:16 thru 4:40 the definition of repeating oneself is insanity? 😂
Yes like with Ezra and Kanan. Ezra learned some teachings from Maul but did not go to to dark side. Merely used some stronger techniques of force manipulation to help get them out. . I think Master Qui Gonn would have helped and guided Skywalker to make the right decisions.
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If you understood that reference then good
I've been looking forward to this
I mean how many Jedi have fallen to the dark side vs. How many Sith converted to being a Jedi. #jakehunter88?
The numbers aren't set. We know that more people converted from one order to the other in the old days (Jedi falling/Sith being redeemed) but that's about it.
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