im sooo stoked to be able to get 1 of these boxes for under 200$ omg.. the cards look better in 2nd edition i swear. theres still a certain charm of having the OG 1st edition card but people like me wont care as long as they still look cool and aren't super duper expensive. i neeeeed me a frogman STAT! lol
@@ArgosAnon ya man I dig it. I'm gonna have to decide which playmat to get when you release them! Going to be difficult. I also like your realistic battle scenes...aghhhh the agony of deciding. 🍻
To give 1st edition a twist, it would be nice if it was true random, whereas anything 2nd and 3rd should be balanced ratio. Would give more incentive to open / collect 1st
They were at www.argosanon.com but they sold out - I will have a second wave though within a couple of weeks and there are still other MetaZoo products in stock. 🙂
@@trevorhook9495 Some people love true random, some people don’t. 🤷♂️ MZ did a vote in their discord a while ago and the significant majority at the time voted to keep it - but impossible to make errybuddy happy that’s for sure.
i do like the heatwrap is vertical vs horizontal.. gives a distance difference of the two.. other than that it appears balanced.. and just as beautiful as 1st ed.. i just love seeing OG Cryptid Nation.. regardless of the edition..
I can appreciate the balance to a booster box but the true random experience can be exciting especially if you get a crazy 1st Ed box like I did where I got 23 FH with 3 mothman cards!
I opened two CN2 edition boxes first box was 12 holos the second had 18 with two full holo mothman! A pizza bird JD Bigfoot CC insane second box! Love the zoo!! And argos :)
At first i was kinda scared when 2nd is flooding the market, interest in 1st may sink. Now i think its cause 2nd ed is just looking glorious, holy cow.. These auras and that some cards got improved like froggy with doing them darker.. Love it!
Nice Video Argos! I really don't have high hopes for this 2nd edition set for a few reasons. As a player, collector and investor, here is how I see this set: 1) the set is way over printed for the current base to absorb. This is good for access to cards but destroys the value of the 2nd edition cards, maybe a little negative impact on the price of 1st edition cards and probably no impact on KS cards. 2) the price point for this 2nd edition booster box is way too high for the print run. Taking lessons from other TGC "unlimited" sealed product price points, 2nd print run boxes are selling between $30‐$50 each and there is still a ton of product available 1 year or more later. The high price point at $120+ will keep at least a percentage of new players away still and I think there is very little ROI to be captured here, at least for another 5-10 years, assuming the game can survive that long. Again lessons learned from the far back and more recent past across many TCG games. 3) The last takeaway for me, is VALUE. It is fundamentally the key metric that drives adoption, excitement and a buying decision. Regardless of who you are and what category you fit into (player, collector, investor), every single one of us that buys a pack or box wants to know there is a possibility of a big hit (hopefully multiple) that carries value short and long term in a game. A perfect example of this is Nightfall Spellbooks where price points are lower than MSRP simply because everyone knows there is no value in the product so seller's are willing to take a loss just to get out of the position and free up capital resources. Unlimited/Revised in Magic took what, 10-15 years to really get going from an ROI perspective. We used these cards to fix a wobbly table and drew on them as proxies, why, no value and over printed. Who really cared about revised? We cared about playing with (proxy or real) and collecting Moxen, Juzam's and Dual Lands. Now that is hindsight 20-30 years down the road with the most successful TCG ever. Look at unlimited card value and price points of sealed boxes in more newer but well established games like FAB, half the cost compared to this Metazoo box and still widely available. Metazoo 2nd edition is way too new and a high percentage risk to invest in as a collector or investor at launch. Those individuals know that there is plenty of time to watch and make a better, more informed spending decision later down the road once the product has matured a bit. Players know this too and they want value for their money just as much as a collector and investor. Same MSRP price for 1st and 2nd Ed at release but 2nd has 1/10 the value inside or worse. Who wants to buy into a game knowing the cards they are buying have very little to no return anytime soon, if ever with exception to maybe 1-5 cards. The Professor plays the Booster Box game on RUclips all time with very consistent results. As a player in other games over the years, it was "the best" to drop that power 9 or high value card that very little people had or pull it out of a pack or box. Thats what everyone wants to feel. KS aside but still relavent, what is the feeling you get from dropping a 1st Ed mothman worth $500 on the table as compared to the exact same Mothman but 2nd Ed worth $25? What excitement is captured in opening a booster pack and pulling a 1st Ed mothman worth $500 vs a 2nd Ed mothman at $25. Its nice but just meh from an emotional reaction perspective because you already instantly know the value is not even close. The fun aspect is then diminished as well. Its night and day different. Value does significantly impact target market interest, excitement and other emotional reactions in a player and collector base that, generally speaking, is a very emotionally driven community. I see a nice future for Metazoo but very little excitement in this specific 2nd edition set and generally all 2nd edition sets to come. Nightfall theme decks even add further overprinting of CN O9 cards which are the highest value cards. 10 silver bullets in 1 theme deck, what!? IMO, the company and player base would be better served all day long with new cards and sets that are not excessive print runs and carry more value than a reprint of the same cards. If a specific card is needed for balance and mechanic game play, then print that card into a new set, maybe give it new art for collectability purposes, but don't now overprint all cards across all sets, or at least and especially the power high valued cards associated to a specific set. It was my biggest disappointment in Nightfall, was to open up a theme deck, which is supposed to be for entry level balanced play not card access, and find an arsenal of cryptid nation power cards inside. Why not make those cards a part of the main set then or balance those decks using the cards available in that specific set only. Wait a bit and release a special theme deck set that merges the first 4 or 5 unique sets together like what Nightfall did across only 2 sets. As much as manufacturers and industry experts want to place people into silos and categories in order to make forecast predictions, there is 1 thing that this TCG industry consistently gets wrong or forgets all the time.... players are collectors and investors, collectors and investors may not be players and many times are not players. Its players that keep a TCG game alive long term for collectors and investors so the goal is not access to low cost cards that carry little to no value for players, the goal is getting the high valued cards in the hands of the players first letting the collectors and investors clean up the rest of the product available. Smart investors would and do care about the player base feeding regularly, being happy and holding high valued cards because that is the one and almost only thing that actually protects their investments long enough to exit with a high ROI. Conversely, if a game is more geared towards collectors and investors leading the market with players pulling up the rear, maybe like the early days of Pokemon, then why print 2nd Ed cards at all because the core target market of collectors and investors are only going to throw money into the 1st Ed cards to begin with. I'm not really sure anyone really wins with 2nd Ed cards other than the manufacturer who sold cards to distributors and LGS's that will have to sit on that product tying up capital for much longer periods of time and hurting their cash flow positions needed to get into the next 1st Ed set release. Add in all the other products Metazoo is releasing taking away from the card sales, which I think is the primary product focus, similar to GPK back in the late 80's, as an investor you have to ask the question, is the business model sustainable over the long term knowing from past history that even a massive company like Topps had to stop with GPK after 4 years for a decade because it became way too much product for the current buyer market to absorb in a timely manner in order to maintain profitability for the product line as a whole to survive. And GPK had global reach just like the Metazoo product roadmap showcases for the future. There is great potential with Metazoo for sure and only time will tell the true story if Metazoo can find the sweet spot or history repeats itself. I hope they find the sweet spot and stay there consistently rewarding their early adopters and growing customer base.
that frogman looks so good in 2nd edition
I was so close !!!! congrats 👏
im sooo stoked to be able to get 1 of these boxes for under 200$ omg.. the cards look better in 2nd edition i swear. theres still a certain charm of having the OG 1st edition card but people like me wont care as long as they still look cool and aren't super duper expensive. i neeeeed me a frogman STAT! lol
Yeah these look awesome! Can’t wait to open more. Next time I’ll have some 1st edition next to it to directly compare colors
I like that there seems to be more saturation on 2nd.
watch the 2nd edition mothman single price!
I pulled one yesterday, the holo one. New to CN, are they worth a lot?
Nice work brother! I love watching your channel keep making it real.
im loving the colors on the 2nd ed. it looks so vibrant! loving the quality!
i need that box topper xD
great vid as usual argos
How do I become a patron of Argos ? I'm subscribed on here. Thanks 👍
Hi Eric! We’re at www.patreon.com/ArgosAnon
That playmat artwork reminds me of when I was a kid and the Sunday newspaper comics! Love it!
Totally was aiming for that. Awesome cartoonist took his first plunge into MetaZoo cryptids with it 😃
@@ArgosAnon ya man I dig it. I'm gonna have to decide which playmat to get when you release them! Going to be difficult. I also like your realistic battle scenes...aghhhh the agony of deciding. 🍻
Just saw the discord say that there is 62.5k booster boxes in US!!!
A good number, great to hear it
Missed opportunity. They should have fixed the coloring to match Nightfall.
The tighter MetaZoo security wrap on CN2E is a major improvement in displayability! 😎😎
To give 1st edition a twist, it would be nice if it was true random, whereas anything 2nd and 3rd should be balanced ratio. Would give more incentive to open / collect 1st
Interesting idea - would create those epic boxes that may further encourage people to open but isolate it more to 1st edition. Fun.
How do we purchase one of your boxes?
They were at www.argosanon.com but they sold out - I will have a second wave though within a couple of weeks and there are still other MetaZoo products in stock. 🙂
The colors on 2nd Edition do seem to be more bold. Congrats Don on the big hit holos!
Saw a video earlier today. Guy only pulled 8 Full Holo from a Cryptid 2nd Edition box.
The age of the Spellbook has arrived
@@trevorhook9495 Some people love true random, some people don’t. 🤷♂️ MZ did a vote in their discord a while ago and the significant majority at the time voted to keep it - but impossible to make errybuddy happy that’s for sure.
Opened two CN2nd edition booster boxes. First box had 12 full holos, and the second box had 18 full holos
i do like the heatwrap is vertical vs horizontal.. gives a distance difference of the two..
other than that it appears balanced.. and just as beautiful as 1st ed..
i just love seeing OG Cryptid Nation.. regardless of the edition..
So what’s the chase box topper in CN 2nd edition?
Has yet to be officially revealed 😏 just hinted that it not being “Red Ink” is nothing to be “blue” over.
Blue ink. Just like red ink, except blue….
i’m planning to collect 1st edition and play with second edition because of the cost
I can appreciate the balance to a booster box but the true random experience can be exciting especially if you get a crazy 1st Ed box like I did where I got 23 FH with 3 mothman cards!
Wait 1st edition packs are searchable? How do they do it? Light or weight? I'll have to be careful buying those loose packs now. How are KS packs?
Light.
KS are ok - the packaging is tighter so you can’t move the cards around to search them without really messing up the pack.
I opened two CN2 edition boxes first box was 12 holos the second had 18 with two full holo mothman! A pizza bird JD Bigfoot CC insane second box! Love the zoo!! And argos :)
At first i was kinda scared when 2nd is flooding the market, interest in 1st may sink. Now i think its cause 2nd ed is just looking glorious, holy cow.. These auras and that some cards got improved like froggy with doing them darker.. Love it!
Bought the last (4) 2nd edition boxes from your site today! Glad i am a Patron. Thanks!
Nice snag! 😃
@@ArgosAnon thanks. There was 17 last night and i told myself, "sleep on it". Grateful for 4. Thanks again Argos.
Hey Argos you should send me a few of them 1st edition and 2nd edition packs / boxes ya know??? For science!!!
Science!!
First!
Woahhhhh amazing how'd you do it?
Nice Video Argos! I really don't have high hopes for this 2nd edition set for a few reasons. As a player, collector and investor, here is how I see this set: 1) the set is way over printed for the current base to absorb. This is good for access to cards but destroys the value of the 2nd edition cards, maybe a little negative impact on the price of 1st edition cards and probably no impact on KS cards. 2) the price point for this 2nd edition booster box is way too high for the print run. Taking lessons from other TGC "unlimited" sealed product price points, 2nd print run boxes are selling between $30‐$50 each and there is still a ton of product available 1 year or more later. The high price point at $120+ will keep at least a percentage of new players away still and I think there is very little ROI to be captured here, at least for another 5-10 years, assuming the game can survive that long. Again lessons learned from the far back and more recent past across many TCG games. 3) The last takeaway for me, is VALUE. It is fundamentally the key metric that drives adoption, excitement and a buying decision. Regardless of who you are and what category you fit into (player, collector, investor), every single one of us that buys a pack or box wants to know there is a possibility of a big hit (hopefully multiple) that carries value short and long term in a game. A perfect example of this is Nightfall Spellbooks where price points are lower than MSRP simply because everyone knows there is no value in the product so seller's are willing to take a loss just to get out of the position and free up capital resources. Unlimited/Revised in Magic took what, 10-15 years to really get going from an ROI perspective. We used these cards to fix a wobbly table and drew on them as proxies, why, no value and over printed. Who really cared about revised? We cared about playing with (proxy or real) and collecting Moxen, Juzam's and Dual Lands. Now that is hindsight 20-30 years down the road with the most successful TCG ever. Look at unlimited card value and price points of sealed boxes in more newer but well established games like FAB, half the cost compared to this Metazoo box and still widely available. Metazoo 2nd edition is way too new and a high percentage risk to invest in as a collector or investor at launch. Those individuals know that there is plenty of time to watch and make a better, more informed spending decision later down the road once the product has matured a bit. Players know this too and they want value for their money just as much as a collector and investor. Same MSRP price for 1st and 2nd Ed at release but 2nd has 1/10 the value inside or worse. Who wants to buy into a game knowing the cards they are buying have very little to no return anytime soon, if ever with exception to maybe 1-5 cards. The Professor plays the Booster Box game on RUclips all time with very consistent results. As a player in other games over the years, it was "the best" to drop that power 9 or high value card that very little people had or pull it out of a pack or box. Thats what everyone wants to feel. KS aside but still relavent, what is the feeling you get from dropping a 1st Ed mothman worth $500 on the table as compared to the exact same Mothman but 2nd Ed worth $25? What excitement is captured in opening a booster pack and pulling a 1st Ed mothman worth $500 vs a 2nd Ed mothman at $25. Its nice but just meh from an emotional reaction perspective because you already instantly know the value is not even close. The fun aspect is then diminished as well. Its night and day different. Value does significantly impact target market interest, excitement and other emotional reactions in a player and collector base that, generally speaking, is a very emotionally driven community. I see a nice future for Metazoo but very little excitement in this specific 2nd edition set and generally all 2nd edition sets to come. Nightfall theme decks even add further overprinting of CN O9 cards which are the highest value cards. 10 silver bullets in 1 theme deck, what!? IMO, the company and player base would be better served all day long with new cards and sets that are not excessive print runs and carry more value than a reprint of the same cards. If a specific card is needed for balance and mechanic game play, then print that card into a new set, maybe give it new art for collectability purposes, but don't now overprint all cards across all sets, or at least and especially the power high valued cards associated to a specific set. It was my biggest disappointment in Nightfall, was to open up a theme deck, which is supposed to be for entry level balanced play not card access, and find an arsenal of cryptid nation power cards inside. Why not make those cards a part of the main set then or balance those decks using the cards available in that specific set only. Wait a bit and release a special theme deck set that merges the first 4 or 5 unique sets together like what Nightfall did across only 2 sets. As much as manufacturers and industry experts want to place people into silos and categories in order to make forecast predictions, there is 1 thing that this TCG industry consistently gets wrong or forgets all the time.... players are collectors and investors, collectors and investors may not be players and many times are not players. Its players that keep a TCG game alive long term for collectors and investors so the goal is not access to low cost cards that carry little to no value for players, the goal is getting the high valued cards in the hands of the players first letting the collectors and investors clean up the rest of the product available. Smart investors would and do care about the player base feeding regularly, being happy and holding high valued cards because that is the one and almost only thing that actually protects their investments long enough to exit with a high ROI. Conversely, if a game is more geared towards collectors and investors leading the market with players pulling up the rear, maybe like the early days of Pokemon, then why print 2nd Ed cards at all because the core target market of collectors and investors are only going to throw money into the 1st Ed cards to begin with. I'm not really sure anyone really wins with 2nd Ed cards other than the manufacturer who sold cards to distributors and LGS's that will have to sit on that product tying up capital for much longer periods of time and hurting their cash flow positions needed to get into the next 1st Ed set release. Add in all the other products Metazoo is releasing taking away from the card sales, which I think is the primary product focus, similar to GPK back in the late 80's, as an investor you have to ask the question, is the business model sustainable over the long term knowing from past history that even a massive company like Topps had to stop with GPK after 4 years for a decade because it became way too much product for the current buyer market to absorb in a timely manner in order to maintain profitability for the product line as a whole to survive. And GPK had global reach just like the Metazoo product roadmap showcases for the future. There is great potential with Metazoo for sure and only time will tell the true story if Metazoo can find the sweet spot or history repeats itself. I hope they find the sweet spot and stay there consistently rewarding their early adopters and growing customer base.
Super excited for these I will finally be able to collect a ridiculous amount of Frogman Mwahahaha
Thats alot of product! u rich or something?
www.argosanon.com is the store website