Thanks for having me out Kaski. Glad the Dryden era mask didn't get put to the test. Gotta recognize the amazing support from @BonesyTV - every goalie needs a partner like this.
I really got into hockey in the 70's, I was fascinated by goalie masks and started playing goalie soon after. The irony is I never got to wear one of those cool fiberglass masks (which was my main reason for becoming a goalie) since junior leagues made us wear helmets and full cages for safety reasons- thank god for that! But still today my fascination with goalie masks remains… yes, they were dangerous and yet they were such a personality statement!
A testament to how good the goalies were back in the day given how different and less advanced the equipment was. The style of game play was different too. Goalies had to typically play the first shot and hope the defenceman would clear any rebounds. That is why the stand up style was prevalent back then. They had to come out of the net more to cover the angles better. The gear was more heavy, especially once wet and more restrictive. The game play saw much more puck passing as compared to today. Goalies today wear much lighter and less restrictive gear. This allows them to play more the butterfly style. But the game play is different too. It's more systems play, with crash the net as part if it. Back in the day the game play was more cerebral, more thinking on the ice, not so automaton like today. This is a big part why goalie style was different back then.
My late uncle (who forgot more about hockey than I'll ever know) used to make statements like this about 80s hockey and how important it was for defense to clear rebounds. He said that was why Rod Langway was so great.
Yes ive seen that standing up was a more common position back then or at least a light squat. Today it's deep. That means that today goalies have to train more to withstand such a workout in a terrible leg breaking position. Football goalies also stand more upright usually because they have to cover the upper part of the net. Today's hockey goalie positions may be one of the toughest out there due to the way the stance and the movements with it
Good on ya for giving it a go Kas. Hopefully young goalies seeing guys like you with vintage gear on like this will gain an appreciation for the history and evolution of the gear and position. I always feel a bit vindicated when guys like you and @BonesyTV have the realization (and talk about) the weight of the pads. Next time though, let's get you in vintage skates too.
Played in the 80's with Cooper GP95L pads. If you ever decide to do this again, i would get/use skates from that era, tighten the lower straps so your pads don't slide around, and come out onto the white ice. The equipment was designed for stand uo. Making yourself look bigger means getting out of the blue paint. Also, with stick saves, you don't need to go down. One last thing, the glove works more like a baseball glove, so you want to catch the puck in the webbing and not use it like a blocker.
You did pretty well considering the huge difference in equipment. I wish they could make a mask that looks old school, but give the same protection as a modern mask.
i have a pair of ccms from the 70s. They are my absolute favourite pads to use. Yes they are heavy after i a game but i love using them for the leg workout
Do you remember the massive bruises on your hips/backside from being taught to slide on your sides from one post to the other? Mine were 6-8 inches long, different shades of purple and football-shaped, on both legs. I still remember tearing up every time I hit the ice, and having to do it again and again every day (I was attending hockey camp in the summer). I guess we saw it as a “right of passage” if you wanted to play goalie and I wore those bruises like a badge. But man, did they hurt!
@@diegobonaparte86I wore forward’s pants so I had that big plastic cap on my hips. Otherwise I’d probably need hip transplants.i sewed in a hunk of plastic around the inside of each thigh. I also riveted a football players flag jacket to my arm pads and had it go around the area between my armpit and where the pants ended to give me a little extra protection.
How very true - more or less the entire body was covered in bruises, They had vanished just when the hockey season started again - and so on, year after year.
this is awesome im an 89 birth yeAR and i used that same cooper blocker my first couple years of hockey they were free from the association lmao. i think i used that blocker for 2 years when i was 7 and 8 which wouldve been 1996-1997.
I actually have and use that same chest protector 2-3 games a week during my hockey season. I love the mobility! My pads used to be like those and the first period was great but the second and on was brutal.
@@3b1d5c not bad honestly, core shots and arm shots don't rebound as much but bruises from slapshots are not uncommon. Luckily I have nerve damage so aside from my knees I feel no pain :)
It's so cool to see how the stand-up style worked. Sadly it doesn't work as much in today's hockey, but back then, goalies were more aggressive. They could freely run out of their crease, instead of having a big trapezoid to screw you over...
I played on a beer league team years ago with a goalie that still wore the old pads from the 80's era. He was hands down still a much better tendy than the guys wearing the newer stuff.
All that gear looked awfully familiar. The worst part was that the pads would get heavier towards the end of the game because of the water they had absorbed.
@@rustyclutch8632 He was intending to come back to the NHL in recent videos and this was the team he would most likely go to since he's been here before
I never even knew those old pads didn't have knee stacks - - OUCH. I played road hockey with a Cooper face plate mask though and wow did it hurt when you took a frozen hockey ball to the face! Very brave of you!!
Saw some of this the other night at pickup, but that's been playing d for me pulled out his old pads and was playing stand up, said it was his first time in net since 2011 but it looked like he learned in the mid 80's
You need to have a pro goalie wear goalie pads from the 1930's and 40's. They had horse hair in them. The horse hair was lighter when it got wet but still much heavier than the pads today. BTW the pads the pro wears need to be wet to get the full experience. They were very sweaty in the 3rd period when things counted the most.
I have never commented but I played goalie in the 80s and I loved this video. have been subscribed for a while but never comment but this made me comment
Don't forget Mike Palmateer (Toronto Maple Leafs), he was outstanding as a goalie, and an acrobatic marvel to showcase the butterfly. I'm a huge fan of his, loved to watch him play, cocky as hell. His play was an inspiration for a lot of us junior goalies. I'm sorry his career seemed to go downhill after he left Toronto. And yeah, pucks hurt a whole lot more when you got hit. As juniors we were kinda' forced ro wear helmets & full cages so our heads were reasonably well looked after but man, getting hit in the upper arm/ shoulder area, or just below the elbow, hurt…! I mean, arm protection was made of thin foam and just a couple of molded plastic cups around the elbow & shoulder joints… everywhere else it was what seemed to be thin mattress material, haha… the chest protector was made of padded felt (1/4” thick) and getting hit in the chest area was also not fun! (I later bought myself a more pro chest protector which was great, with the little molded rectangles and a better foam backing, more similar to what goalies use today). But pro quality arm protectors were not readily available for us so we had to suck it up when you saw a shot was gonna hit you… and leg pads were pretty cool, I saved for a year and bought myself a really cool, semi-pro set (D&R) but still found some shots just below the kneecaps to come through at the joint, and hurt a bit. I see today goalies and don’t really enjoy their playing style, it feels like they spend all of their time down on their knees. I see the way they control their slides, how they push from one side to the other and admire their stamina… but I don't like the evolution of their game. Thanks for the video and the walk down memory lane.
No, that is not correct. Glenn Hall was the pioneer - he introduced the "Glenn Hall split" which was the basis for the butterfly style contemporary goalies use. I started playing in the late 60's and believe me - doing that split was not easy with the kinds of pads we used. That's probably one of the reasons I suffer from arthritis now, 50 years later...
OK that's a cool look but also humbling. Those old goalies really had a lot to contend with. But I'm going to call out that those skates didn't quite look from 1980's. But props for going with the old mask. That must be a bit scary!
I never played, but if a goalie were to _practice_ with the comparitively clumsy/heavy pads, would they feel super human in a game with modern equipment? Or would it just throw them off too much to be beneficial? 🤔
Those pads get even heavier by the end of the game, they soak up water. Vintage to me means no mask, but its isn't nice seeing a goalie stop a slap shot with his face.
Thanks for having me out Kaski. Glad the Dryden era mask didn't get put to the test.
Gotta recognize the amazing support from @BonesyTV - every goalie needs a partner like this.
The water bottle throw 🤣
I really got into hockey in the 70's, I was fascinated by goalie masks and started playing goalie soon after. The irony is I never got to wear one of those cool fiberglass masks (which was my main reason for becoming a goalie) since junior leagues made us wear helmets and full cages for safety reasons- thank god for that!
But still today my fascination with goalie masks remains… yes, they were dangerous and yet they were such a personality statement!
A testament to how good the goalies were back in the day given how different and less advanced the equipment was.
The style of game play was different too. Goalies had to typically play the first shot and hope the defenceman would clear any rebounds. That is why the stand up style was prevalent back then. They had to come out of the net more to cover the angles better. The gear was more heavy, especially once wet and more restrictive.
The game play saw much more puck passing as compared to today.
Goalies today wear much lighter and less restrictive gear. This allows them to play more the butterfly style. But the game play is different too. It's more systems play, with crash the net as part if it. Back in the day the game play was more cerebral, more thinking on the ice, not so automaton like today. This is a big part why goalie style was different back then.
My late uncle (who forgot more about hockey than I'll ever know) used to make statements like this about 80s hockey and how important it was for defense to clear rebounds. He said that was why Rod Langway was so great.
Yes ive seen that standing up was a more common position back then or at least a light squat. Today it's deep. That means that today goalies have to train more to withstand such a workout in a terrible leg breaking position. Football goalies also stand more upright usually because they have to cover the upper part of the net. Today's hockey goalie positions may be one of the toughest out there due to the way the stance and the movements with it
Brings back some memories. Miss my brown leather Miller pads. They used to sit in my room in the summer and they smelled a certain way.
Good on ya for giving it a go Kas. Hopefully young goalies seeing guys like you with vintage gear on like this will gain an appreciation for the history and evolution of the gear and position.
I always feel a bit vindicated when guys like you and @BonesyTV have the realization (and talk about) the weight of the pads.
Next time though, let's get you in vintage skates too.
Its such a cool experience to break away from the modern gear and get a whole new feel for the position we love. Gotta get you on with us next time!
Played in the 80's with Cooper GP95L pads. If you ever decide to do this again, i would get/use skates from that era, tighten the lower straps so your pads don't slide around, and come out onto the white ice. The equipment was designed for stand uo. Making yourself look bigger means getting out of the blue paint. Also, with stick saves, you don't need to go down. One last thing, the glove works more like a baseball glove, so you want to catch the puck in the webbing and not use it like a blocker.
When I was groing up in the 60s and 70s, I thought leather goalie pads looked so cool!
You did pretty well considering the huge difference in equipment. I wish they could make a mask that looks old school, but give the same protection as a modern mask.
i have a pair of ccms from the 70s. They are my absolute favourite pads to use. Yes they are heavy after i a game but i love using them for the leg workout
And people used to wonder why we used to have at least one bruise on our body at all times from October to May and normally more than one
Do you remember the massive bruises on your hips/backside from being taught to slide on your sides from one post to the other? Mine were 6-8 inches long, different shades of purple and football-shaped, on both legs. I still remember tearing up every time I hit the ice, and having to do it again and again every day (I was attending hockey camp in the summer). I guess we saw it as a “right of passage” if you wanted to play goalie and I wore those bruises like a badge. But man, did they hurt!
@@diegobonaparte86I wore forward’s pants so I had that big plastic cap on my hips. Otherwise I’d probably need hip transplants.i sewed in a hunk of plastic around the inside of each thigh. I also riveted a football players flag jacket to my arm pads and had it go around the area between my armpit and where the pants ended to give me a little extra protection.
How very true - more or less the entire body was covered in bruises, They had vanished just when the hockey season started again - and so on, year after year.
this is awesome im an 89 birth yeAR and i used that same cooper blocker my first couple years of hockey they were free from the association lmao. i think i used that blocker for 2 years when i was 7 and 8 which wouldve been 1996-1997.
I actually have and use that same chest protector 2-3 games a week during my hockey season. I love the mobility! My pads used to be like those and the first period was great but the second and on was brutal.
How’s the protection? I’d love to wear something like this for the mobility, the modern ones feel so bulky, but the protection is nice
@@3b1d5c not bad honestly, core shots and arm shots don't rebound as much but bruises from slapshots are not uncommon. Luckily I have nerve damage so aside from my knees I feel no pain :)
It's so cool to see how the stand-up style worked. Sadly it doesn't work as much in today's hockey, but back then, goalies were more aggressive. They could freely run out of their crease, instead of having a big trapezoid to screw you over...
I played on a beer league team years ago with a goalie that still wore the old pads from the 80's era. He was hands down still a much better tendy than the guys wearing the newer stuff.
All that gear looked awfully familiar. The worst part was that the pads would get heavier towards the end of the game because of the water they had absorbed.
So heavy and completely threw off my balance
@@KasimirKaskisuoOfficial Despite that, you were still stacking the pads like a 1970's all-star!
I remember my old coopers
@@sash7551 So do I - GM12!
Reminded me of my old Cooper gear. Nice job!
You played great old school Hybrid style
I thought I was watching a Pelle Lindbergh video. Nice old school style.
Pelle, Pelle , Pelle !!
Nice to see you back in Toronto! Great video, fun watching you stop some pucks again.
Wait, he is actually back in Toronto? I don't like the leafs but if I see him in the game I'm watching it
How could you tell? Did you recognize the rink or something?
@@rustyclutch8632 He was intending to come back to the NHL in recent videos and this was the team he would most likely go to since he's been here before
@@rustyclutch8632 Board advertisements and the video description say TO.
Would have liked to have see you try a pad slide as they do now in those
Imagine facing Bobby Hull with NO MASK!!
I never even knew those old pads didn't have knee stacks - - OUCH. I played road hockey with a Cooper face plate mask though and wow did it hurt when you took a frozen hockey ball to the face! Very brave of you!!
Love the Lange goalers on the other guy!
is it just me or does it look cooler if he plays modern style while looking vintage
Saw some of this the other night at pickup, but that's been playing d for me pulled out his old pads and was playing stand up, said it was his first time in net since 2011 but it looked like he learned in the mid 80's
The vintage goalie looks like Mike Liut as if Mike Liut played the butterfly style which eh never did.
Back then goalies used to stand up most of the time like Ken Dryden used to do.
You need to have a pro goalie wear goalie pads from the 1930's and 40's. They had horse hair in them. The horse hair was lighter when it got wet but still much heavier than the pads today. BTW the pads the pro wears need to be wet to get the full experience. They were very sweaty in the 3rd period when things counted the most.
I like the bulldogs practice jersey Kas
I have never commented but I played goalie in the 80s and I loved this video. have been subscribed for a while but never comment but this made me comment
Welcome to the comment section!
Nothing like the smell of wet leather and deer hair
Tony Esposito invented the butterfly in those old pads…
Don't forget Mike Palmateer (Toronto Maple Leafs), he was outstanding as a goalie, and an acrobatic marvel to showcase the butterfly. I'm a huge fan of his, loved to watch him play, cocky as hell. His play was an inspiration for a lot of us junior goalies. I'm sorry his career seemed to go downhill after he left Toronto.
And yeah, pucks hurt a whole lot more when you got hit. As juniors we were kinda' forced ro wear helmets & full cages so our heads were reasonably well looked after but man, getting hit in the upper arm/ shoulder area, or just below the elbow, hurt…! I mean, arm protection was made of thin foam and just a couple of molded plastic cups around the elbow & shoulder joints… everywhere else it was what seemed to be thin mattress material, haha… the chest protector was made of padded felt (1/4” thick) and getting hit in the chest area was also not fun! (I later bought myself a more pro chest protector which was great, with the little molded rectangles and a better foam backing, more similar to what goalies use today). But pro quality arm protectors were not readily available for us so we had to suck it up when you saw a shot was gonna hit you… and leg pads were pretty cool, I saved for a year and bought myself a really cool, semi-pro set (D&R) but still found some shots just below the kneecaps to come through at the joint, and hurt a bit.
I see today goalies and don’t really enjoy their playing style, it feels like they spend all of their time down on their knees. I see the way they control their slides, how they push from one side to the other and admire their stamina… but I don't like the evolution of their game.
Thanks for the video and the walk down memory lane.
No, that is not correct. Glenn Hall was the pioneer - he introduced the "Glenn Hall split" which was the basis for the butterfly style contemporary goalies use. I started playing in the late 60's and believe me - doing that split was not easy with the kinds of pads we used. That's probably one of the reasons I suffer from arthritis now, 50 years later...
OK that's a cool look but also humbling. Those old goalies really had a lot to contend with. But I'm going to call out that those skates didn't quite look from 1980's. But props for going with the old mask. That must be a bit scary!
I never played, but if a goalie were to _practice_ with the comparitively clumsy/heavy pads, would they feel super human in a game with modern equipment? Or would it just throw them off too much to be beneficial? 🤔
Butterfly with them pads bring back som really nerv-wrecking memories so to say
Im lucky i left my knee guards on😅
Really cool!
what is your favorite stick to use as goalie
Northland, 14 lie. Hespeler briefly made a stick I liked. HATED Victoriaville, Montreal and Jofa sticks.
You would have been less gassed if you had a beer and a smoke before playing like they used to, I think.
One way to find out
Hi Kaz! Super interesting video! In the off season what kind of streches do you do?
All of the stretches😅
That's like the gear my dad used to rock lol he still has his old glove :D
It's even more fun when the pads get wet :P
Great video shows how much goalie gear has changed haha. How much heavier was everything compared to your bauers?
Pads were really heavy. Gloves light but they lacked protection haha
@@KasimirKaskisuoOfficial i bet gloves have changed so much its insane
I still love My Old pads
all goalies next season must where this pads for comedic purposes
You should have used old skates. That would add a few lbs per leg
I like your old gear 🤣🇨🇦🏒
now you need to make a 90 gear video :)
Rather a 70's video - withe the gear I used during my heydays.
Those pads get even heavier by the end of the game, they soak up water. Vintage to me means no mask, but its isn't nice seeing a goalie stop a slap shot with his face.
Good thing they didn’t fire any slap shots to your chestie a good hit will drop you like a rock
The Old pads are Made to last
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hey kaz you are the best youtuber i love your vids is there a way i could send you a card so you can sign it
72 i remeber the hurt..
All that exposed throat between the mask and the chesty --- I remember before I wore a dangler getting a puck off the collarbone. Terrible!
lol. You getting suspended again for that bottle throw? You could have killed someone.
I’m practicing so next time i can miss on purpose
@@KasimirKaskisuoOfficialJoten tuomari voi antaa heitolle 10 pistettä. Terveisiä Ruotsista! 😉