EQ and Compression (2 of 3) | How to Mix Drums
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- Опубликовано: 29 июл 2016
- In Part 2 of How to Mix Drums, you will learn how to use EQ and compression to shape the drum sound and control the dynamics for a more clean, professional sound.
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7:00. I agree that:
1. eq first with subtractive (remove what’s bad)
2.then compression to smooth and stabilize,
3. then additive EQ (bring out the good stuff).
Some guys add a 2nd compressor at the end, subtly, try it... you might just like it.
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WOW that makes so much sense.
Not necessesarily, sometimes I like eq boosts right before compression, it makes the boosted ranger thicker sounding without making it louder, post compression eq boosts can make the tracks louder. Pre compression eq boosts cause the boosted frequencies to hit the compressor harder, which can be nice!
That’s a really good point
Yes sir... Mixing and recording is like cooking. Sometimes we add spices before we cook to infuse the flavors...sometimes we add them after we cook.
The best thing to wrap my head around in sound engineering is that ALL that matters is the end result.
So I’ve tried everything, and keep learning and experimenting !!
Peace
@@SteveStockmalMusic That's a really good analogy!
Thank you very much for all videos you have put out on recording. You dumped it down just enough that helps alot for all of us newbies! Much love keep up great work!
Good pace. High in nutrition. I am better for having watched you. Thanks for your generosity.
You explain things so well and all of your videos are so well put together. Thank you for explaining things like this in a condensed and easily understandable manner.
no problem! glad you dig the videos
Hey guys, be sure to check out the new Drum Mixing Masterclass to see my latest, most in-depth training on how to mix drums! www.abbdrums.com/p/drum-mixing-masterclass
HUGE fan of your channel. I'm starting to record stuff at my house now, and you've really helped guide me and made this so much easier than it would've been originally. Cheers man!
that's awesome man :)
Love the video thank you I specially like how you give credit where credit is due
for sure man, thanks!
Dude thank you so much for this video, its super helpful. The best part is you get a great sound without over processing. I tried this out tonight on one of my recordings I was struggling with and it sounds awesome now. Clicking the subscribe button :)
Nice, clear, no waffle - really appreciate this
Thanks Austin! Great videos, so easy to follow, best on RUclips.
Man I really appreciate you doing these ! After watching your drum mixing tutorials my mix is so much cleaner thank you so much !!!!
Same bro. I use to not buss my drums at all and the mix would be horrible.
really really helpful, i have noooo knowledge whatsoever in any drum recording or mixing so this helped a ton
Thanks for this Austin. I used your guideline for a starting point and it helped me getting the drums to sounding the best here in my home studio. Thank you sir.
Thanks for this series of videos! I learned a lot and it helped inspire my mixing.
Very nice tips Austin, thanks !
Great Video! I usually put a little compression on my overheads to smooth them out.
Very clear video! Will try some of those things out now
good series. thanks for posting.
To everybody that's trying to give him tips.. He stated at the beginning of the video that this is how "HE" mixes "HIS" drums!! How you gone debate a dude on what HE likes HIS drums to sound??? That's his taste!! All of the things you guys are saying are preferences and not RULES!!! nothing he did was Wrong, just his taste and what he likes to hear!!
Great video! Thank you Austin
dug this video. It really helped me a lot. thanks
I like simple. Nice job and thank you!
Great. Thank you very much Sir!
Thank you this video really help me.
well done. thank you!
you're the best. thumbs up
Bruh, this has helped me alot! Thx!
Congrats! like so much your videos man! \m/
Wau!!! Great video! thank you so much
tnx 4 tips very useful...
very nice, thanks!
THIS IS GREAT BRO THANKS ALOT SIR
Absolutely Brilliant - really easy to understand and follow! Please do more videos like this. Congratulations on your endorsement with Meinl Cymbals!
Hey Austin! love the video series. Im actually doing my own mix right along with your videos. Im currently working through the drum bus. I dont see the soft tube under audio units. I also checked my plug-in manager and couldn't find it. Tried the gobbler app download, but hasnt seemed to work.
hi brother... i am quite amazed, can you tell me what software is that and that plugins you are using to equalize and compress. thanks for sharing.
Hey Austin, what would you change in the way your EQing if your goal was to have a more metal type sound?
I think it's a good idea to use what's available and what's worked; presets are great, imo. I like to use them as a starting point and see what the changes have done to my sound, and see what works or doesn't, and WHY. No reason not to stand on someone's shoulders to see the big picture...there's no more puritans for a reason methinks...
I prefer pro tools but your video is very informative. Easy to follow.
Why don't you use the analyzer in the eq ??
it will actually show what the sound is rich in and will help better in the subtractive eq.
wonderful video Austin great results from simple things.
Love this vid. dude, you're so modest on your work...but you kick ass!!! by the way, do you already have some gate on your mics?? my rough rec isn't so clean...i know, maybe a lot of things, from the room to the audio hardware ecc ecc...but how do you get such a clean rough rec??!!! thanks in advance ...big massive hug from Italy!!!!
and...we should all agree that compressing an untreated analog signal is mostly counter productive...so I'm on your side with the eq compression order...
don't worry bro...Dave P uses those presets too...love your channel!
Hi, great videos, i need help with the softube knob installation. I installed it with the Mac archive downloaded from the softube page, but i dont find it in my logic pro x. Thanks
What type of compressors are ya using?
Where do you get the plugins (audio assault transient)?
谢谢
When eq the mix of drum, is it like you make unnoticeable of drum sound?
You should "SAVE AS" all your personal EQ settings as your go-to Presets so your workflow is faster, bro...
Give them all kool names too! 👍
It'll save tons of time since you more or less already have your own special taste for the DRUMS 👽👽
When i activate my Linear phase eq it it has delay.. how can i fix it?
Sorry about what I had said below. I am looking for Kick in compressor. I just can't seem to find it. I type in Type R Kick In but to no avail.
Another great vid Austin. You read my mind. So you use two mics for kick drum? One inside and one outside. Both Audix D6s?
Yes 2 kick mics. The D6 is inside the front port pointing towards the beater and I use an old AKG Perception 200 condenser mic on the outside, usually about 6 inches or so from the front head. I've been doing that for a while but Sweetwater recently made a video that demonstrates it pretty well. It's linked below if you want to check that out.
ruclips.net/video/iI1_bPxJoNE/видео.html
Good job! You changed to post fader to mix right?
Was you able to download softube compressor with out DL GOBBLER. if where can I get it.
Can you put the link in the comments for the audio assault transient
Austin great video thank you so much! Hey buddy it looks like the Audio Assault Transient Plug-in was discontinued. Do you have any recommendations on what to use instead of this plug in? Thank you for your time
Logic has a plugin called Enveloper that is a great free option. For a paid plugin, the DS-10 Drum Shaper from XLN Audio is great too. I use it all the time in my mixes now. www.xlnaudio.com/products/addictive_fx/effect/ds-10_drum_shaper
How do you get those mix faders at the bottom of the screen?
I like my snare a little brighter than that, but overall good mix!
@NS345 bro, why cant i get that drum sound :(
What is the free plugin you name at 4:28?
I couldn’t catch the name.
Anyone?
Great tutorial 😎🎶🎶
Ohhhhhh
Audio assault !!!
I was hearing ‘audio salt” Lolololol
Thanks again
Hi I have a question how do I download the softube stuff for the overheads on my Mac??
I actually learned something lol
Thanks Austin. Do you recommend logic pro x over pro tools? I am not sure if you can do the same scoring with pro tools. I know you use logic. Just wanted to get your thoughts
+Led Logic is unique with its midi and scoring functions, especially with how I use it for transcribing. I used Pro Tools exclusively for a while and I think it's great for recording bands and mixing, but Logic just has certain things that work better for me. Also, Logic is cheaper and much less hassle to operate because you dont need an iLok and all that garbage like with Pro Tools. I could go on and on about all this but I think you get the point haha
Hello Sir .
My question is : zoom F8n recorder good enough to make good quality sounding videos for streaming on RUclips and instagram? Or an 8 line audio interface for drums recording ?
And wich one of these microphones sets have better qualities for drums recording :
Audix Fp7 or Akg session 1 or audio-technica Dk7 ?
Tanks 🙏🏼
I’d say yes !!
I feel like that lowmid cut at 250 on the drum bus messes with your snare, especially since you say you like to boost it on the channel eq. I'd recommend fixing that in the tracks you dislike it on, considering how important the snare is. Also, try some parallel compression! Bus everything through a separate bus and slam it (10+ db of reduction) with a fast attack and release time, and then blend it with your dry drums. Helps bring out the sustain.
+Luuk Meijwaard I've experimented with parallel compression over the years but I decided to not include that in this series because I don't really end up using it that much in my mixes. I'll go back and experiment with it some more and see what I can do with it. Thanks for the suggestions!
Luuk Meijwaard It was too down mixing
so.... just to confirm.... when your adjusting the effects on your drum bus you still have all the original tracks turned up in the mix? wouldn't you want to turn these down?
Can I copy this set up in every song once I finished it? Since kit and mics would be the same for other songs
YES, most DAWs have a special Saving function for every track, even the Master channel in the Mixer, so it IS possible to save mixing/mastering CHAINS for your favorite go-to effects/vst plugins. Normally you find that feature in a drop-down menu (Tools) or some type of keyboard shortcut to achieve that idea 👍
I get so much bleed from other drums into my kick mic. How do you get your kick mic to sound so clean even before you started?
Jason Brown I had the same problem. I solved it by placing the kick mic a little bit into the kick while staying close to the port hole and by covering the “resonant part of the drum” with a heavy blanket. The blanket might kill a bit the high freq but I kinda like it.
his kick mic is inserted into his kick drum. his kick out mic has much more bleed as you can see into the video. I currently don't have a hole in my drum reso head so I get a lot of bleed as well. just gotta cut the highs out a little more if you don't want the bleed.
hey Austin..a little throwback here. you seem to have minimal bleed on your snare drum mic from the hihat, i have the same mic(i5) ,and about the same position and seperation between the two like your setup but the hihat bleed is all over the place, any advice would be nice.
Having a nice quiet pair of hats is a must.
Light touch on playing the instrument
Cubase too ?? Thanks
I don't know if you'll see and reply to this message but that's ok, I'll try. I have the same headphone as you but I'm having problems with my hearing because I don't know how to use the volume correctly. Let me explain better: when I'm recording some drum cover, I always put the music line loud, along with my drum loud line as well. the question is: for us drummers, at the time of recording and talking about hearing protection as well, I would like to know how you use the volumes, firstly to follow the music without getting lost, and also to protect your hearing. what is the correct way to protect yourself? Thank you very much.!
There is really no perfect formula for monitoring levels when recording. It’s all very personal but I like to just keep it as balanced as possible so neither my drums nor the song is overpowering the other. I want it to sound as close to the final mix as possible so I can hear exactly how I am playing in relation to the track. But I am also cognizant of protecting my hearing so my overall volume of both elements is not excessively loud. Just loud enough to where I don’t lose track of anything while recording. Hope that helps.
Hey Austin, how did you get the softube into Logic? I downloaded it but I can't find it in my logic plugins? MAYBE YOU could help me out? :) All the best! :)
ME TOO!!!!!!
So frustrating
@@georgehitchmough1045 Yep
@@georgehitchmough1045 Installed it again and rebooted my MacBook. Now it's there! Dunno why =)
could you post the link to download? please?
I'm struggling to install saturation knob pluggin. any tips?
Ollie Dunster-Sigtermans happens to me too. Ended up having to manually add it in the Mac hd/library/plugins file. Get the softube software and install it through there, then drag and drop the component/vst or AU (audio unit) in the folder.
So EQ First and then compression?
which drum tonnes are you using ?
is it a preset or any kind of plugin.
Bejoy Eappen sounds like live drums to me.
hi someone can help ?
I nesd Saturation Knob please
Just a thing, if you're going to show how to EQ and compress, or mix in general, I wouldn't choose presets :( a lot of people here I'm sure are running something besides Logic Pro. Otherwise, the set of these videos is great and very very much appreciated man!
presets are just settings. the concepts and rules of EQs and compressors apply no matter what program youre using
do you have a link for softube plugin?
didi you find the link? if so Share please
@@decarriograham72 nah I didn’t get one
VERY IMPORTANT CUESTION FOR YOU: ¿What about The main Gain volumen of all the antire Drums? I mean the gain before you start to mix it up... ¿¿¿was it??? (-18 -6)
You know, presets usually come with a lot of gain.
This question is most likely very dumb (I'm sorry, I had no experience with recording before), but for example, when you track drums for a song, do you apply the EQ before the tracking or afterwards (or maybe both before and afterwards)? Can somebody be kind and explain it?
I always do it afterwards. I don't really have any hardware that allows me to eq or compress on the way in so that's not even an option for me. I just record everything raw from the interface and then apply the mix in Logic afterwards.
+Austin Burcham Thank you very much!
Subtractive eq, before comp... Additive eq, after comp... :D
Yea I've read about that technique but it seems a lil overboard for me. I understand the theory behind it but I just like to keep things super simple so I don't go crazy haha
Agreed, as long as it sounds good, it´s good. Thanks for sharing! Cheers...
So you like to do any cuts pre comp and then any boosts post comp , is that what you mean sorry ? I'm just learning at the moment so everything is so interesting 🤣🤣🤣
hp on 40 hz is to mutch, you shouldn't go over 30 hz, even if you cant hear it on your amp, some subwofer can get to 30 hz, and some headphones can go even lower (supposedly)
whoever say using presets are not professional..they basically saying the professionals who created that professional daw they using are not professional lol....stop it!! end of the day its about your ears
Analyzer
shift command +D
Awesome man. Would love to see a new vid on how you mix with your Earthworks set since they're very different mics to the audix!
You're using garage band right?
Logic Pro X
also support our mixing page on youtube from dys studio
can someone ease explain what compression is
Took me a while to get it too.
Essentially, you are raising the low VOLUME parts AND lowering the high volume parts.
Hence "compressing" (the dynamic range) the sound.
Say a singer SCREAMS and then whispers in a song. We would have a problem!
Why? Because if your sound system had the volume high enough to hear the whisper, you can imagine how ear piercing the scream would be. So..we have to compress the two extremes into a manageable sound range.
Yes, it's more complex than I explained but this is a good start to understanding it all.
+Jim Cheseborough thankyou very much that helps alot. 😀
+August Burns Red glad it helped!
Do you always treat the drums as 1, in a bus now or do you treat them with plugins on each track too separately?
Larry Tate did you watch the fucking video?
you know, people that go for eq after compression secretly use eq in the compressors' side-chain.... ;) screw all debate about making music. if it works it works
Y u no work right?...is pidgin...Love from Nigeria!
To start with Presets is absoluteley not unprofessionell.
bru this tutorial is amazing but snare has some disturbing ringing , else is great for me but you know i have to be annoying commenter :3
please bro get a mic w anti pop the "S" on ur voice is killing me
really? saturation knob? compressor presets? this is not a masterclass at all.
Your kick EQ is horrifying, why are you cutting out lows?!
+Creativecoverz It's not uncommon to filter out those super lows. The frequency range I try to maximize for the kicks low end is in that 45-75khz range. Anything below that seems to just kind of muddy up the sound and not contribute much to the audible character so I just filter it out a little bit to clean it up.