Just remember folks that if you're using something else then the old Waves SSL-channel plugin, the frequencies are different. This plugin shows frequencies inaccurately. 2.5kHz is actually 3.2kHz, 900Hz is actually 730Hz, 200Hz is actually 170Hz. I like to use the old SSL Channel from time to time exactly because it shows frequencies inaccurately. Makes me use just my ears. Just a heads up!
@@gonpachio On Fabfilter Pro-Q 3 with a 6db/oct high shelf I get a very close match to the SSL plugin's 8kHz with a 6dB boost when the frequency value is set to 3.4kHz. But if you want the same sound, you'll have to use a LPF with it because the SSL plugin cramps the top end. Btw, I think my time with Waves has come to an end following their recent announcement. So no more occational usage for the SSL Channel or anything else they make.
couldnt have said better! its important to use your ears and these frequencies should only be seen as area somewhere around that! understanding the assignment and use your ears is the best way
@@Eurodrummer666 You'll find the answer to your question above. Someone else already asked about it. The question seems to be deleted, but my answer is still there.
Notice how the frequency potis are more or less set somewhere around 12o'clock. This explains why the SSL channel is the go to plugin for mixing drums for many of us.
600-900 is a where the sound of the wood lives.... I do a lot of drum sound design for edm and that's a good place to focus if you want to make the drum sound more "live" or acoustic. It can sound honky right there too so you have to be careful.
I usually do a shelf boost at 6k a 220hz boost and a 2k boost. For the cut I sweep around. Pretty close to what you do. I just looked at your cheat sheet and it is very close to what I do. It is great for beginners to intermediate engineers. Great advice!
I feel like most of the time when I am mixing something, if these approximate moves fail to improve the mix to what I want, I pretty much just give up on the source and retrack.
Sounds like exact drum part from drum center of Portsmouth's intro. Lol. Like exactly. Also thanks for the tip. My snare always lacks body and depth. Always seems to be the weakest of the kit when tracking. Latley been adding a sample to beef it up. Band works great. I know some folks hate samples but they sound pro and are kind of a must these days in my opinion. Thanks for the tips.
Get the drummer to use a decent snare drum. As a drummer it breaks my heart to see sound engineers completely change the character of the snare sound to suit what they think is the "right" sound. The right sound is how the drummer tuned their snare. At the same time though, the drummer should have a fresh head on and should have bothered to tune the head (drum really) well before starting recording.
I recently came across your videos and they have helped me a lot, I am just starting out in this business, thank you very much, greetings from Chile 😃🤘
for certain snares you might also want to boost or cut the resonant frequencies (the ones that have a clear pitch) depending on the mix, might sound good for the style you're going for
Agreed on this one. Some of our mixes we do sometimes we don't need that hiss at the end or the high chippy clear pitches you mention we typically cut them sucker off on purpose. Today's speakers even with flat settings still have high range so done want to be too pitchy
I loved the boosts, but I thought the cut made it sound a little flat. I definitely liked it before the cut. That's just preference, I guess. I would only cut if there's a ringing sound that I don't like. I love a nice snare, without a note ringing out. Great video!
I love these kinds of tutorials because I feel like so many producers come to this video for mixing snares for hip hop and here’s a video for mixing country and rock snares. Totally different and these mixing tricks are null for it
This whole series is great. Question: If you have the snare bottom and top on separate tracks, would yoou eq them separately or blend them to taste to an aux channel and then eq the blend?
yay! this is all exactly what i do too with the exception of the 600-900 cut. i haven't messed much with that range on snares in the past. i am going to keep that in mind going forward! i do feel like some character i liked in that snare has been deadened in a way i don't love, but i suppose is makes more room for vocals and guitars and stuff without getting rid of the punch-in-the-gut quality
You didn't mention the high pass you were using which looked to be around 60-70k. One of my favorite cuts to make is at 1k. I find it gives a more pointed sound to the low and high of the snare. Gives it a slight smack sound.
Dude that snare sound is night and day!!! Going to apply this to some tracks today had a couple grooves that I can hear need exactly this 👍🏼 very concise and to the point too man.. thank you for this great content!
Excellent advice, there are so many who regurgitate information from other mixers and its like whisper down the alley lol. While this may not be perfectly applicable in all situations, it is most helpful in each mix journey. Keep up the good vids and good vibes.
Out of the hundreds of videos and endless advice I must say your magic frequencies for mixing series it actually works every time. All of your contact is priceless and very educational,and I can’t thank you enough. Off topic are you from Canada?
I basically use the same frequencies on kick and toms but shift the low end boost to about 50 on kicks and 80-100 on toms. And the mid range cut varies too but its generally in the 3-800 range. The SSL eq is king 👑
Amazing info, and thanks for the cheat sheet! Also that splashy hi hat snare roll groove is impressively hard to play. Props to whoever played on that track
Great video man, thanks for sharing this stuff. I'm so glad you mentioned always make these changes in thr context of the mix (i.e. not in solo) - this was the hardest thing for me to get used to when I started mixing but since relinquishing my reliance on the solo button my mixes have gotten better.
Very valuable piece of knowledge! It worked like a charm for my band´s mix (i´m the drummer and the "mixing engineer"). I also noticed that reducing some low end and boosting just above it helps when a snare has been tuned way too low (I used wrong tuning before the session and didn´t want to sample replace). Hope my experience helps someone out there.
I recently found out on my snare I tuned a bit too low that adding a bit of 300 hz helped it to be heard in a mix. I also had to thin notch down some low frequencies at about 190 and 220 hz after doing a 200 hz large boost. This way my snare sounded fat without being "obese".
What gate are u using for drums? Any favorites? Your channel is awesome. Will u please also do a video on overhead panning and mixing in with the rest of the kit. Phasing etc
do you normally apply both EQ boosts & cuts, before feeding the compressor? i figured cutting precedes compression, so it doesn't work as hard, then boost after compression.
Jordan, you are so awesome 🤗 why do use the Waves SSL strip when you have the original SSL Duende Strip which sounds amazing!!!!??? The EQ is so much nastier...
Thanks dood, that cutting of 600 to 900 is gonna be useful. I was trying to figure out yesterday how to deal with the ring on the snare of a purl reference kit as I'm playing Coldplay in this mix which is obviously not metal
Hola dsd Argentina!!!!!! Quisiera saber si puedo equalizar el tambor de esta manera desde la Behringer Xair 18 o debo conseguir otros programas? Muchísimas gracias
Is it possible to do a video like this for a typical rock bass guitar? I always seem to get too much bass and mud or too thin. I can never seem to get it like a reference track. I see the cheatsheet now though.
Just remember folks that if you're using something else then the old Waves SSL-channel plugin, the frequencies are different. This plugin shows frequencies inaccurately. 2.5kHz is actually 3.2kHz, 900Hz is actually 730Hz, 200Hz is actually 170Hz.
I like to use the old SSL Channel from time to time exactly because it shows frequencies inaccurately. Makes me use just my ears. Just a heads up!
@@gonpachio On Fabfilter Pro-Q 3 with a 6db/oct high shelf I get a very close match to the SSL plugin's 8kHz with a 6dB boost when the frequency value is set to 3.4kHz. But if you want the same sound, you'll have to use a LPF with it because the SSL plugin cramps the top end.
Btw, I think my time with Waves has come to an end following their recent announcement. So no more occational usage for the SSL Channel or anything else they make.
@@tomasniemisto4858 What did they announce?
couldnt have said better! its important to use your ears and these frequencies should only be seen as area somewhere around that! understanding the assignment and use your ears is the best way
What is Waves SSL´s 8000 hz? Is it higher or lower?
@@Eurodrummer666 You'll find the answer to your question above. Someone else already asked about it. The question seems to be deleted, but my answer is still there.
the raw recordings already sound so good, man.. 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I thought the same
Notice how the frequency potis are more or less set somewhere around 12o'clock. This explains why the SSL channel is the go to plugin for mixing drums for many of us.
600-900 is a where the sound of the wood lives.... I do a lot of drum sound design for edm and that's a good place to focus if you want to make the drum sound more "live" or acoustic. It can sound honky right there too so you have to be careful.
I usually do a shelf boost at 6k a 220hz boost and a 2k boost. For the cut I sweep around. Pretty close to what you do.
I just looked at your cheat sheet and it is very close to what I do. It is great for beginners to intermediate engineers. Great advice!
I feel like most of the time when I am mixing something, if these approximate moves fail to improve the mix to what I want, I pretty much just give up on the source and retrack.
Much appreciated. I graduated in engineering music producer graduate and I find your information greatly appreciated
Great vid! also TOM IS BACK IN BLINK 182
Okay, this legit made my day. Probably, nostalgia overload. 😂
😄 it had to be said!!
Lol
Blink 182 sucks.
Who's back with who? 🤣
Great great content. And of course the snare itself is very well tracked, and the drummer is playing very well. Can't fix that in post!
Sounds like exact drum part from drum center of Portsmouth's intro. Lol. Like exactly. Also thanks for the tip. My snare always lacks body and depth. Always seems to be the weakest of the kit when tracking. Latley been adding a sample to beef it up. Band works great. I know some folks hate samples but they sound pro and are kind of a must these days in my opinion. Thanks for the tips.
Get the drummer to use a decent snare drum. As a drummer it breaks my heart to see sound engineers completely change the character of the snare sound to suit what they think is the "right" sound. The right sound is how the drummer tuned their snare. At the same time though, the drummer should have a fresh head on and should have bothered to tune the head (drum really) well before starting recording.
Your magic frequencies video have changed everything the ssl was so intimidating, thank you so much....please do some videos on hi hats on the ssl
I recently came across your videos and they have helped me a lot, I am just starting out in this business, thank you very much, greetings from Chile 😃🤘
This magic frequency series is great! I hope to see one on toms. The bass video definitely leveled up my mix.
for certain snares you might also want to boost or cut the resonant frequencies (the ones that have a clear pitch) depending on the mix, might sound good for the style you're going for
Agreed on this one. Some of our mixes we do sometimes we don't need that hiss at the end or the high chippy clear pitches you mention we typically cut them sucker off on purpose. Today's speakers even with flat settings still have high range so done want to be too pitchy
I loved the boosts, but I thought the cut made it sound a little flat. I definitely liked it before the cut. That's just preference, I guess. I would only cut if there's a ringing sound that I don't like. I love a nice snare, without a note ringing out. Great video!
I love these kinds of tutorials because I feel like so many producers come to this video for mixing snares for hip hop and here’s a video for mixing country and rock snares. Totally different and these mixing tricks are null for it
This whole series is great. Question: If you have the snare bottom and top on separate tracks, would yoou eq them separately or blend them to taste to an aux channel and then eq the blend?
yay! this is all exactly what i do too with the exception of the 600-900 cut. i haven't messed much with that range on snares in the past. i am going to keep that in mind going forward! i do feel like some character i liked in that snare has been deadened in a way i don't love, but i suppose is makes more room for vocals and guitars and stuff without getting rid of the punch-in-the-gut quality
☛ My Mixing Cheatsheet has the go-to starting points for snare and every other track in your mix. Grab it for free here: www.mixcheatsheet.com
Big boost on top end and a fairly boost on low end gets you 80% of your snare sound.
Thanks for the tip!
You didn't mention the high pass you were using which looked to be around 60-70k. One of my favorite cuts to make is at 1k. I find it gives a more pointed sound to the low and high of the snare. Gives it a slight smack sound.
he may not have mentioned it because it's more of a given.
Interesting, I usually like to boost at 1/1.5K to have the midrange of the snare. I guess it depends on the snare itself
I’m glad I stumbled across your channel you definitely provide a unique and simplified workflow thank you 🙏
Dude that snare sound is night and day!!! Going to apply this to some tracks today had a couple grooves that I can hear need exactly this 👍🏼 very concise and to the point too man.. thank you for this great content!
Great work.. Thank you for sharing such great material for free!
Excellent advice, there are so many who regurgitate information from other mixers and its like whisper down the alley lol. While this may not be perfectly applicable in all situations, it is most helpful in each mix journey. Keep up the good vids and good vibes.
thank you , very clear advises , subscribed today , i jump on the comp EP to ear your sight on this
This video is very helpful, thank you. I'll go try it out now!
Out of the hundreds of videos and endless advice I must say your magic frequencies for mixing series it actually works every time. All of your contact is priceless and very educational,and I can’t thank you enough.
Off topic are you from Canada?
first thing i recomend to do is to check phase between drum set instruments, it always helps!!!!
love your tutorials ....thank yuososo much from colombia
actually worked, thanks.
Hi! Could you please add magic frequencies for bottom snare! Thanks!!!
frequency #3 was an eye-opener for me
also the idea of post eq compression. Thanks!
Thank you man for all the advices through all your videos! You are give this community so much bro!!
I basically use the same frequencies on kick and toms but shift the low end boost to about 50 on kicks and 80-100 on toms. And the mid range cut varies too but its generally in the 3-800 range. The SSL eq is king 👑
cheat sheet is what i was looking for the ages. simple explanation what to do. thanks a lot.
Спасибо вам и вашему каналу. ваше видео больше всего помог мне по эквализации SSL .👍👍👍
Amazing info, and thanks for the cheat sheet! Also that splashy hi hat snare roll groove is impressively hard to play. Props to whoever played on that track
An awesome video....great work!
Thank you for sharing your mixCheatSheet.
God bless you.
Reinventing the wheel: that's something I've been guilty of when it comes about mixing... Thank you so much for your content, as always, top notch!
Straight to the point. Great video! :)
Dang, even on my iPhone speaker, I could hear the difference.
Great video, definitely subscribing!
Thank you for sharing all this incredibly impactful knowledge. You are my mixing mentor!
Great video man, thanks for sharing this stuff. I'm so glad you mentioned always make these changes in thr context of the mix (i.e. not in solo) - this was the hardest thing for me to get used to when I started mixing but since relinquishing my reliance on the solo button my mixes have gotten better.
Very valuable piece of knowledge! It worked like a charm for my band´s mix (i´m the drummer and the "mixing engineer"). I also noticed that reducing some low end and boosting just above it helps when a snare has been tuned way too low (I used wrong tuning before the session and didn´t want to sample replace). Hope my experience helps someone out there.
I recently found out on my snare I tuned a bit too low that adding a bit of 300 hz helped it to be heard in a mix. I also had to thin notch down some low frequencies at about 190 and 220 hz after doing a 200 hz large boost. This way my snare sounded fat without being "obese".
This videos are wonderful (as is the cheat sheet) - thank you & keep up the great work!
Step 1: start with a snare that sounds good
your snare track sounds awesome. I cannot make mine sound like that. It's driving me crazy.
This is helpful video at least for someone like me who's not a drummer. Helps to narrow it down and gives a solid starting point. Keep em coming!
I like your teaching style... thank you for this content!
What gate are u using for drums? Any favorites? Your channel is awesome. Will u please also do a video on overhead panning and mixing in with the rest of the kit. Phasing etc
THANK YOU!
Thanks, very useful video
Thanks. Excellent video.
Great Vídeo. Very informative and helpful. You should do the same for Bass drum, Toms and Cymbals! :) Cheers.
Thank you! This was very helpful and I'll be using this advice in my next remastering session :D
Looks like the high boost around 8k is a shelf? Just wondering since the bell button is not on. Thanks man! Sounds awesome!
Yes, it is!
Exactly - playing with the bell on 8k sometimes reduces some of that cymbal bleed ;)
damnd man ... just tried and it works straight away . great tip , thnx
thank you so much!
Damn! i was one of those trying to reinvent the wheel HAHA! Thanks Jordan!
do you normally apply both EQ boosts & cuts, before feeding the compressor? i figured cutting precedes compression, so it doesn't work as hard, then boost after compression.
Jordan, you are so awesome 🤗
why do use the Waves SSL strip when you have the original SSL Duende Strip which sounds amazing!!!!???
The EQ is so much nastier...
Definitely gonna try this dude! Thanks 🤘🍻
ever try 820 boosted i find that can give some great stuff to add on the low and high
Are theses the same drum tracks on the intro to Drum Center of Portsmouth videos?
Great! Exactly hat I was searching for - thanks for the insight! 👌
Nice and very good one , video, tutorial. . . Thumbs Up Jordan 👍💪✌
Thanks for doing these videos!!
Thanks dood, that cutting of 600 to 900 is gonna be useful. I was trying to figure out yesterday how to deal with the ring on the snare of a purl reference kit as I'm playing Coldplay in this mix which is obviously not metal
Try cutting specifically 830hz, Seems to be a good starting point
This is absolutely great mixing snare tutorial. 👏
Did anyone else notice that the first groove that is playing on the Drum Tracks is the same as the intro of the Drum Center of Portsmouth videos?
It is isn't it!
Great sounding tracks and playing! I’m super curious about the gear used for the tracking.
Thx can’t get away from basic eq since I’m doing Motown
Isn’t that the intro to DCOP channel? (Drum center of Portsmouth)
Great video, thanks!
helpful info…thanks!!!
thxx bro very nice
Nice Tutorials
I'm looking at the mix cheat sheet right now (THANK YOU!) and I'm wondering... is there EVER a time for SLOW release on compression?
Superb video, thanks!
Very useful. thank you very much. You've solved my problem 🙂
Okay I have to know, is that drum track the Drum Center of Portsmouth channel's intro, or does it just sound like it?
Thanks for this Jordan !
Hola dsd Argentina!!!!!! Quisiera saber si puedo equalizar el tambor de esta manera desde la Behringer Xair 18 o debo conseguir otros programas?
Muchísimas gracias
100 plus a. 300 hz is nice combo too actually.
10k boost and a 470 cut
This is great!
Amazing, thank you man
Great stuff Jordan -- thanks!
great vid bro thanks!
Thanks a ton !!!❤
thanks a lot. Mixing snare is always a headache for me. Anymore :)
thanks so much... it's really useful for me :)
Dang that was a great video! Now I gotta try it out!
Thanks, great video!
Just found you and this stuff is amazing and easy to consume. Thank you!
Killer content bro!
Is it possible to do a video like this for a typical rock bass guitar? I always seem to get too much bass and mud or too thin. I can never seem to get it like a reference track. I see the cheatsheet now though.
this is free gold thanks man
Amazing tips ,thanks.
Thanks