well if you don't mind not having the latest and greatest you can always buy their older products that drop in price after these newer ones show up. they're still decently powerful you just won't be able to run the latest games at decent settings, but hey, theyre still good as emulation machines for big consoles like PS2/Gamecube/etc.
@TheShadowHatter i just like to have to have, i dont *need* one But typically the older weaker ones are still just not as good a value as just buying a steam deck or smth
@@nathanfranck5822 It is unreal, because it was using Frame Generation. Because he didn't show native FPS, I can just guess, and I guess the native FPS was around 40-45 fps. Idk about you, but I wouldn't like to play a 3rd person shooter at those fps, then adding more input lag on top of it with FG. I much rather reduce resolution or settings to reach 60 fps native.
Yeah, except Steam is private, meaning there are no shareholders to prevent them from deleting everyone's account when Gabe wants another 30 yachts. Pretty sure private corporations and the billionaires who own them are the real enemy; or are you just some chat bot illegally advertising for a f****** billionaire?
Got the 24H2 update downloaded and set for installation despite me blocking it. Had to download a third party SW to block the install. 😮 Turns out MS is forcing feature updates now. Once my next PC is assembled I will start by trying Bazzite and if it works reasonably well I'll transition. 😅
Well it helps when Microsoft is actively trying to make Windows 11 as hostile as possible to users. Windows 10 was easy to live with, but Windows 11 definitely isn’t.
@@bulletpunch9317 isn’t that like that maximum battery size period? Just run it at 28 watts or less. Long as it has like 70-80watt battery, should be good
Within Bazzite In Handheld Daemon there is a setting of TDP boost. After I disabled it my battery life seemed to be more consistent and better. Swipe the top left corner to get full menu. Swap the right to have smaller menu. On desktop mode within Handheld Daemon you can also change scheduler to developed LAVD scheduler. With Decky Loader you can install powertools and with that you can quickly disable cores. It can make huge difference on low tdps where instead of powering loads of cores it can divert energy to boost just few required cores or gpu. Run the game, look how many cores are taxed and limit near that. Don't disable the SMT option as it bugs out the cores. I noticed that often during cpu task like downloading or processing shaders gpu draws high power too. I have 8840u version though
I'm a fan of these videos, so I'm not hating when I say this: Using Frame Gen to showcase performance at the begging of the video, is as dishonest as Nvidia saying the 5070 is as fast as the 4090. Please, add native FPS performance of those games in the benchmark section. A lot of people, me included, would never enable Frame Gen with native FPS below 60 FPS. I don't care if you don't feel the input lag, a lot of people would buy this device using this review, and when they would turn on Frame Gen they will find themselves having a horrible experience because of the bad input lag and frame pacing.
So yesterday, I was playing 7 days to die with my daughter. She has my old Steam Deck and I was on my legion go. We both had pressed the "play" button at the same time and she was in the menu screen waaaaaay before I could even get past the anti-cheat garbage the loads before the game launches. Her performance was on par with the Legion Go. I'm highly considering installing Bazzite on my Legion because of what I witnessed.
I wish this had a higher battery density. Like 45Whr is not enough these days, maybe next gen. Yes the soc can compensate a bit, but there's degrees to it
I know they're the same thing for all intents and purposes. But can we start referring to Bazzite and SteamOS explicitly so that its clear which has Valve support as it's going to be confusing when SteamOS actually launches
They are not the same for all intents and purposes. Bazzite stays much more up to date on the kernel and mesa (userspace gpu driver) side, which leads to some big performance and efficiency improvements that take far longer to arrive in SteamOS. Bazzite also has a different CPU scheduler in the kernel called BORE, which is optimized for gaming and likely helps the 1% and 0.2% lows a good amount. The SCX_LAVD scheduler may be a bit better for both performance and power and will likely come to SteamOS eventually, but the kernel it needs won't come to SteamOS until sometime around the end of the year based on previous trends. Which is disappointing since the LAVD scheduler seems to have been mostly tested on the Deck. Meanwhile, Bazzite already has support for it and it can be enabled with a single command in the console. I get that Valve wants to move a bit more slowly to prevent breaking things, but it takes about a year for improvements that they have made to enter SteamOS after the changes first make it to mainline. The reason they chose Arch as a base was to be more up-to-date on software, but they're actually moving quite slowly. It's kinda disappointing imo.
I really wish more companies would work with Valve to make Steam OS the default on their handhelds, sadly still so far it's only going to be the much slower Legion Go S handheld that has it as an option, and not the higher power devices with the Z2 extreme like the Legion Go 2.
I agree with this. I wish we could have a single uniform OS that everyone can get behind so we don't have choice paralysis having to pick between each different OS and what it does better/worse than the others.
@@mull0r-on-linuxthe only thing I worry about is the legion go s steam os model won't sell well and they won't figure out that putting steam os on an underpowered garbage was the fault not steam os.
@@Spencerwalker21 that's my concern too, honestly I don't see any real reason to get the Legion Go S over the Steam Deck OLED so I wouldn't even consider it, but the Legion Go 2 with Steam OS I would 100% buy.
God I love that white 2025 win mini. This is really nice on regards to bazzite and steam os. I have been primarily windows on my win 4 but might try it. Especially when I get a win mini. Thanks for going over this.
@peterd7009 my win 4 is 6800u. This would be a fairly nice upgrade. Plus after messing with my win 1 and 2 again i miss the clam shell design. If i was to get a 2025 i would definitely sell my win 4. Totally inderstand your position.
Better idea for flip out screen: flip it back wards instead with protective layer that also flips front to serve as back plate, thus fit oversized thumb sticks for proper gaming.
It has 2/3 of those things by default... Aside from core count, which still requires a 3rd-party tool (can use Decky Power Tools, which works fine with the HX 370), those are available in the HHD menu (I believe on GPD devices, it's holding the QAM button), which is included in Bazzite by default. Steam QAM's TDP slider also works fine - it overrides the HHD slider if adjusted, and vice versa. Also the inconsistency Phawx found in higher power usage on Bazzite would likely be reduced or eliminated entirely by disabling TDP Boost from the same menu. Doing so doesn't negatively affect the performance at all in my experience - I believe it's more of a bursty/productivity workload feature, rather than than being of any value for gaming.
Great video thank you! But what about lossless scaling and AFMF? I feel these two are important part of handheld experience and I heard at least lossless scaling won’t work on bazzite :/
Great shear. Cool device. I see a turbo grafx box. So underrated system. I have ben on the fence for playing with steam OS's running on my desktop. Any idea if it can run direct x11 ? I need Diablo 2 Resurrected and PoE 2 to run in direct x11 as I want to use steam in a VMwear player as VMwear is the only way I can get a second set of mouse and keyboard. I heard that steam allows the option to run games in direct x 11. I don't know if they have to be steams version only or any version. Any thought's ?
Man, that's a ton of cores and threads. Can't wait to see if the Z2 Extreme offers greater efficiency by trimming some of those cores off the HX 370. You don't need more than 8 cores for a gaming box right now.
0:57 The first AMD APU with heterogenius architecture thats worth noting, before this the 8500G and i think a mobile variant somewhere had both Zen4 and 4C cores, which is odd, APU cores are already basically C cores with a smaller die area and 1/2 the cache of desktop cores
when i first laid my eyes on the GPD Win4, its always been my go-to choice for a pc handheld. but after seeing the Win Mini so many times and the fact its been getting refreshed models with the latest hardware, i've been leaning towards the clamshell designed more now. Wish i could afford it though
Question, how does RPCS3 perform on linux vs windows? My gpd win4 2025 is disappointing at ps3 emulation and i suspect its down to cpu scheduling and inter core latency.
so excited for the razer blade 16... hx370 with 64gb of memory and a 5090 mobile in such a sexy slim form factor is the kind of portable power I've been craving for years and it's finally here :D
Question: How is oculink support on Bazzite? Something with the Aya Neo and other devices is that Oculink port and if that works with Bazite that would be game changing to be able to dock it when you get home.
I've been so close to ordering the HX370 win mini multiple times over the past couple weeks but I can't decide if I want to wait for the Legion Go 2 or just go ahead and get the win mini. I feel like I would prefer the win mini form factor but I just worry about the ergonomics. I do probably 80% of my gaming time these days on my steam deck and sometimes on weekends I will play my deck for hours straight and it's generally very comfortable for me. I just don't know about the weird control layout with the sticks to the right of the d-pad and ABXY. How do you feel about the ergos on the mini? Is it easy to get used to the layout and is it comfortable in the hand for long sessions? I'm honestly leaning more towards the legion Go 2 but when they were showing it off at CES I was assuming it would be coming soon but from what I read it isn't coming until the 2nd half of this year and I don't really want to wait that long to upgrade.
The thing is though that the Legion Go 2 should have the same iGPU as the HX 370 but of course the Z2e will have 8 cores and 16 threads instead of the 12 cores and 24 threads in the AI9 APU but for gaming you wouldn't really notice it at all the performance difference and to be honest would cost less money to go for the Legion Go 2 instead.
Who wouldve guessed after years being at the top GPD still has the best and most cutting edge devices. Still cant understand products from like Aya are better known and more recognised within the community even tho their devices are objectivly worse
Does lossless scaling work in bazzite? It’s a steam app but it requires launching games in windowed mode to work properly. I have been curious about bazzite for a while but I can’t give up my frame generation…
That's why you aren't switching to Linux. But you don't speak for everyone. Many gamers may choose to switch despite losing access to about a dozen games due to anti cheat
If only this had a bigger battery, say the same size as a steam deck oled. As well as a 1080p oled vrr native landscape display... The lack of those 2 things are the only reason I am not pulling the trigger and getting one. Really this is the first device from GPD that I would have ever considered though. If I didn't have a steam deck oled at least.
thank you so much for this video! I have a win mini 2025 preordered and was curious how well linux ran on this vs windows, I'm trying to move fully over to linux so it's nice to see that this will be a no brainer move once i get the device!
I was wondering the same thing. Ideally it would leave more TDP headroom for the GPU, and from what I've seen the 890m scales better with more TDP than the older 780m which doesn't really benefit from more power past 30W on the APU.
Is there HDR support with the screen? I honestly find that for the games I play, the SD OLED with much worse performance, just looks so much better on low graphics settings - with HDR on - than on my gaming PC with high FPS and an old IPS panel.
Yes and dedicated consoles do quite well but what other apps does it run lol? Apples and oranges I want top pc performance with 10-20% of current power use, that would be impressive.
I don't know about sub-10W (since basically no one has done benchmarks of it), but at 10W HX 370 on Bazzite matches or exceeds the Steam Deck efficiency. What you said was mostly true for all chips "until" Strix Point, though 15W is typically actually where the previous chips started exceeding Steam Deck performance - the 7840U/8840U at 13-14W were roughly equal to the Steam Deck at 15W. Note I'm only talking about CPU package power, not total system power, which obviously can vary a lot, and is better (lower) than average on SD. For example, comparing a couple games with Bazzite on HX 370 here with Phawx's video where he showed the slight performance differences between the SD LCD vs. OLED at 10W: * Batman has ~6 higher average FPS, 3 FPS higher 1% lows, and 9 FPS higher 0.2% lows on HX 370. * CP2077 is like +/- 3 FPS (HX 370 has better lows, worse average vs. LCD, but better average vs. OLED). * Deus Ex is almost exactly the same for both averages and lows.
@ I was replying to this exact quote from you: "The Deck is crazy efficient because of its custom-built APU which runs crazy efficiently at lower TDPs (15w and lower) compared to these Strix Point behemoths." While I guess you could call them "behemoths" because they can be set much higher (30-35W) than the SD (which is capped at 15W), my point is that Strix Point is no longer inefficient at low wattages relative to the SD's custom solution if you cap the CPU package power to be equal at lower wattages.
It's still inefficient in a sense that smaller node gives you similar performance than old one. Efficiency gains from node shrink is balanced by inefficiency due to having higher tdp target and playing below optimal point. From experience they also drop quicker the lower you go below optimum. You can claw that back by disabling cores, so not a dealbreaker, but a bit finnicky. Efficiency on new architecture/node + efficency from targeting lower tdps could be big. Right now new ones mostly allows you to burn through your battery even more and gain something for it. Good for docked experience though.
I hope the Steam Deck 2 not only waits for a significant performance-per-watt advancement but also solid state batteries. Or at least, the future option to upgrade a non-glued battery for a solid state one. 🤞
Does SteamOS normally not just work on it? I’m sure the controls and stuff on the device might not work but it would be interesting to see how it performs regardless.
I tried bazzite on my Kun, and ultimately went back to Windows. Only because the Kun has an EC that the Ayaneo buttons are directly connected to, making those useless without a driver...
Ray tracing is, AFMF (assuming you are talking about amd fluid motion frames) isn't. I'm not sure what you are refering to with DLSR, do you mean connecting a DLSR camera as a webcam?
That absurd power usage in a very old game reminds me of issues I've had with _Final Fantasy X-2_ on the Steam Deck-the game just demands as much power from the CPU as it can, which led to it running *worse* (to the point of instability and crashing) if I didn't manually set a low TDP limit. I suspect that it must have just not been written with proper sleep() operations.
Saw similar behaviour in Sacred too. Same a bit jumpy ~60fps framerate no matter if 4W or 28W and without limit it tries to even out those bumps needlessly.
Does Bazzite or Steam Os support Vr gaming (steam vr or meta), and what is compatibilty like with gaming perhipherals like a Fanatec wheel for example? Also does it support all the major game libraries? Dolby Vision or Dolby Atmos support? These newer handhelds are quite powerful and have the power of a low end gaming pc when docked. But I wouldn't switch to Steam OS or Bazzite if it doesn't have the compatibility and the level of 3rd party support that Windows has.
No. It doesn't. It supports Steam, not all games, mind you, and you can try and install launchers from others publishers like Epic, Ubisoft or EA, but they are a hassle and you lose all the advantage of using SteamOS (that it works like a handheld console). Oh, no microsoft store or game pass of course. Most of the software that works for windows doesn't work in linux (which is what this is), I couldn't even use Razer Synapse for my Razer Naga Pro mouse. That's what they forget to tell you. SteamOS is just good for (some) steam games with the integrated controller and some bluetooth ones. I use my ROG like a miniPC with a dock, so I can do anything that a full desktop can in a very small package, so it stays with Windows. Everything works. And in handheld mode, I don't have a problem. I can use the touch screen like in my phone or tablet, these people seem alergic to using a touchscreen now.
@valrond Yep, I have an Aya neo Kun and use it like a mini pc when docked as well. I would consider switching from Windows to an alternative OS, but Steam and Bazzite seem more like a downgrade compared to Windows since they are missing so many features and compatibilty.
@@LeeLee-fi7mx On Linux I think ALVR is the best bet for VR but from what I’ve heard it’s hit and miss, works great for some, terrible for others, ymmv type of thing. So as usual in Linux, you pay with your time.
I've got Bazzite running on a GPD Max Win 2 (2024) and if I'm putting the device down for any period of time, I just shutdown. It boots quick enough from cold to not be any real inconvenience.
Has anyone received one of these? It says it's shipping on the indigogo, but they say shipping is in March. I would like to order one today but don't want to wait for March lol.
I started using Bazzite about 2 weeks ago. I am actually really disappointed with the user experience. I keep getting sliders that don’t work. Games that won’t close. Settings that won’t save. Vulkan shader compilation steps that never progress. I constantly have to restart the my ROG Ally. Now, once in games, it’s really good.
Windows 24h2 update bricked my win 4 8840u causing me to install bazzite last night. Couldn't get bazzite to install on the 2024 mini 8840u the flash drive i set for the mini was plug and play on the win 4 for whatever reason mini kept getting hung up on the install. Win 4 is amazing now tho
The scheduler on current Windows 11 seems to favour Intel over AMD on desktop systems. Lots of desktop benchmarks have shown that AMD performs better on Windows 10 overall for gaming. Microsoft needs to sort this out.
8840u is literally the same core/igpu [8x Zen4+780m, even same clocking core and gpu wise] as 7840u/z1e.. just z1e has no npu, 7840u has one, just is fairly small, 8840u, same npu as 7840u, just faster clocking.
This is comparison is flawed. Bazitte prioritizes the iGPU by default. You can do it in Windows with Universal x86 Tuning Utility Handheld. Energy Performance Preference changes the priority between CPU and iGPU, set it to 100 for iGPU. Combine that with AFMF2 or lossless scaling and it will be even better. If you want a proper comparison, set the CPU and iGPU to the same fixed clocks in Bazzite and Windows. Bazzite turns your handheld into a console, you can only play games. Windows turns your handheld into a PC, you can do much more. It's up to the handheld manufacturers to include proper power management tools, not (Microsoft) Windows. Install Universal x86 Tuning Utility Handheld, or Handheld Companion and use the right options.
@vlada909 is it really a normal PC ? Can you install Office on it ? All the apps to make your 3D printer work ? Capture cards ? Authenticator apps for 2 form authentication ? Other devices you might buy or apps you actually need ? Let's be honest, Linux, Unix, or whatever, is really cool but limited and requires tweaking. Most people don't know how to do that and don't have time to waste tinkering.
@@brunoflausinodasilva7372 Yes. Yes you can install office apps. I don't have a 3d printer but a quick google search shows that it seems to be possible. My capture card works just fine on linux. Why would authentificator apps not work? Most work just fine. My external sound card for my xlr mic and electric guitar actually works better on linux then windows. And I expected to have problems with it lmao. Honestly it really depends on what you do on your pc. Generally linux has been mostly tinker free for me and my usecase and distros like chromeos show that it can work great for basic tasks for a lot of people. Of course it's not for everyone (people who use adobe for work for example) but linux PCs are deffinately normal PCs.
@@brunoflausinodasilva7372 What a subtle way of saying you don't know what can be actually installed on any Linux distro You can install LibreOffice, OnlyOffice and even Microsoft Office if you don't care about it running through wine, note that the first two are fully compatible with all the features MS Office has and are a little better handling images on documents. All the apps to make a 3D printer work? I don't know but at least Ultimaker distributes its software for Linux officially (didn't check any other brand) and Blender is Linux native, I don't use 3D printers myself and it's pretty much an edge case scenario but a simple search on google showed this. Capture Cards? Native support without installing drivers because thankfully Linux devs actually used their brains and made drivers be included as kernel modules (functionality can be managed through your Desktop Environment settings GUI or third party apps) Authenticator apps? I'd assume people already have an Android phone or an iPhone for that, but worry not, if you want to have it on your Linux PC, there are apps for that, Google Authenticator itself for example. Any piece of additional hardware 99% of the time will be supported out of the box only using kernel modules drivers (without downloading or installing anything), that's the case for printers, capture cards, audio interfaces, net cards, etc. Talking about tinkering being a need in Linux and at the same time saying you need to install and configure at least three apps on Windows to make this a "fair comparison", I actually think that IT IS a fair comparison because it compares both systems as they were out of the box, if the manufacturer that ships the device with Windows didn't optimize it, the user most likely won't either. Most mainstream Linux distros don't need tinkering (or the use of terminal) ever if you don't want to (it's only an option), Bazzite here is an example, and yes it starts up with Steam's Big Picture by default because that's the use case of that distro, just play games game, but underneath it has KDE and you can change settings (through GUIs, no terminal required, no installing anything else required) to make it start with KDE, and also enable one tap to left-click two taps to right-click on the trackpad, that is an option inside KDE Settings (again GUI). Now of course Linux has problems, NVIDIA drivers are good now but NVIDIA feature support could be better, most online game developers bork Linux support intentionally, there's no AMD Adrenalin app (God I miss AMD Adrenalin), and Adobe doesn't want to support Linux, there are alternatives obviously but it's not the same, I mean I don't like Adobe but it being a pretty important company for PC professional users is a fact (you can run old Adobe software through wine like Adobe Photoshop CS6). However these problems aren't alike the ones you portrayed and personally I don't think Linux Desktop situation is bad.
lossless scaling run on steamOS? if not, windows is better... lossless scaling in portable device's that you almost don't see quality decrease and artifacts, is just a revolution, and the imput lag under 20ms is totally playable, much better than running a game in 30fps.
If you check out some disassembly videos, there is basically no room, it's pretty much the most jam-packed of the handheld PCs on the market. Only hope with this form factor would be improved battery technology.
Not really sure, don't follow those kinds of devices - I suspect they just used all those folds to give it a much larger battery than a phone could normally fit though. Also not really directly comparable, as it's an ARM device.
@ apparently the Mate XT uses Silicone-Carbide, it is slightly more dense (energy/volume) compared to LiPo. Maybe not commercially viable for larger capacities though (yet).
Honestly, Linux in general wins over Windows in terms of performance and resource effectiveness.... I switched to Manjaro Gnome recently (Arch distribution for "the average user"), and sure, I haven't fiddled around with the terminal, I don't use gamescope, I don't have the fancy features of Steam OS's "Big Picture Mode" (But it's probably only a matter of time before all of that will become integrated with Steam itself as "mandatory dependencies"). My take away is that performance is either equal or much better than Windows, and if the average performance is worse than windows, then the 1% lows are typically still far better resulting in a "smoother" and more consistent experience. In many games I have witnessed Linux allocate about 1-2GB less VRAM in modern AAA games. And now when I am playing FFVII Rebirth I realize that I have no stutters (unless I turn the camera super quickly with the mouse, that however, seems to be a "geometry culling" issue). When I tired in Windows stutters were everywhere, it felt atrocious to play, and yes, I did wait for shader caching. With all of that being said, I know Valve has been working with AMD for the last 10+ years with their Open Source Linux drivers, and I use an RX6800, so that could be the reason why I am having such a good experience. Still my gf has a 1050Ti, and that's also a good experience on her computer with Manjaro.
Not going to lie, this video has really made me want one of these... But the prices, considering I have a steam deck oled and this is not that much better overall I'm still not sure. If only it had a slightly bigger battery...
Would still see something like playnite come to linux or os similar to this in future.dont really like having to sign in to steam and add all non steam stuff to it. Something like playnite would be great for a dedicated gog machine for e.g
@Siltprogramation is there a guide somewhere on how to setup to auto boot/launch to it after powering on the handheld? And both support controllers navigation?
I hate the whole bigLITTLE/p+e/heterogeneous core BS. Intel came up with it because their CPU efficiency sucked. AMD didn't need to do this whole castrated core thing because their CPUs have been efficient for a long time now.
I wish these things weren't violently expensive cause they're cool as hell but damn
well if you don't mind not having the latest and greatest you can always buy their older products that drop in price after these newer ones show up. they're still decently powerful you just won't be able to run the latest games at decent settings, but hey, theyre still good as emulation machines for big consoles like PS2/Gamecube/etc.
@TheShadowHatter i just like to have to have, i dont *need* one
But typically the older weaker ones are still just not as good a value as just buying a steam deck or smth
Full size gaming laptops used to cost more. I wouldn't call these mini versions expensive. Gaming laptops are more affordable than ever
Get the Odin2 Portal. Insane battery life, thin, and Full HD OLED. Unlike most x86 handhelds on the market.
Just get a steam deck
Space Marine 2 running at 90fps on what looks like a 3DS is so surreal
@@nathanfranck5822 It is unreal, because it was using Frame Generation. Because he didn't show native FPS, I can just guess, and I guess the native FPS was around 40-45 fps. Idk about you, but I wouldn't like to play a 3rd person shooter at those fps, then adding more input lag on top of it with FG. I much rather reduce resolution or settings to reach 60 fps native.
@@oddmofo60 fps is still good for a handheld.
Half of those were fake frames.
Word
I wish the gaming community would not focus on Bazzite vs. SteamOS too much. That arms race makes us to forget that the real enemy is Windows.
Yeah, except Steam is private, meaning there are no shareholders to prevent them from deleting everyone's account when Gabe wants another 30 yachts. Pretty sure private corporations and the billionaires who own them are the real enemy; or are you just some chat bot illegally advertising for a f****** billionaire?
Dang so true
Gamers finally figuring out Windows is a horrible bloated mess, what a time to be alive
Got the 24H2 update downloaded and set for installation despite me blocking it. Had to download a third party SW to block the install. 😮
Turns out MS is forcing feature updates now. Once my next PC is assembled I will start by trying Bazzite and if it works reasonably well I'll transition. 😅
Well it helps when Microsoft is actively trying to make Windows 11 as hostile as possible to users. Windows 10 was easy to live with, but Windows 11 definitely isn’t.
@@stennan haven’t used windows on bare metal for nearly a decade. It sure is a mess even on a VM.
What is it about windows that is so horrible in day to day use? I honestly don't have any issues with my machine for years now
I think Strix Halo with SteamOS will be a portable beast
Just needs a 100wh battery minimum.
@@bulletpunch9317 isn’t that like that maximum battery size period? Just run it at 28 watts or less. Long as it has like 70-80watt battery, should be good
@@christianr.5868 oh i was just assuming. Didnt know you had access to review models
@@bulletpunch9317 just going based off what people who had it have said
@@christianr.5868maximum your allowed to take on a plane is under 100 watt so you want a 99.9 watt battery
Within Bazzite In Handheld Daemon there is a setting of TDP boost. After I disabled it my battery life seemed to be more consistent and better. Swipe the top left corner to get full menu. Swap the right to have smaller menu. On desktop mode within Handheld Daemon you can also change scheduler to developed LAVD scheduler.
With Decky Loader you can install powertools and with that you can quickly disable cores. It can make huge difference on low tdps where instead of powering loads of cores it can divert energy to boost just few required cores or gpu.
Run the game, look how many cores are taxed and limit near that. Don't disable the SMT option as it bugs out the cores.
I noticed that often during cpu task like downloading or processing shaders gpu draws high power too. I have 8840u version though
I'm a fan of these videos, so I'm not hating when I say this: Using Frame Gen to showcase performance at the begging of the video, is as dishonest as Nvidia saying the 5070 is as fast as the 4090. Please, add native FPS performance of those games in the benchmark section. A lot of people, me included, would never enable Frame Gen with native FPS below 60 FPS. I don't care if you don't feel the input lag, a lot of people would buy this device using this review, and when they would turn on Frame Gen they will find themselves having a horrible experience because of the bad input lag and frame pacing.
So yesterday, I was playing 7 days to die with my daughter. She has my old Steam Deck and I was on my legion go. We both had pressed the "play" button at the same time and she was in the menu screen waaaaaay before I could even get past the anti-cheat garbage the loads before the game launches.
Her performance was on par with the Legion Go.
I'm highly considering installing Bazzite on my Legion because of what I witnessed.
Would love more battery life. I've been spoiled by the rog ally x and it's massive battery. Has been a great experience with bazzite there too.
not what this one's going for, the battery is the first place to compromise if you want something that actually fits in your pocket
@gasoline9456 very true!
Actually love how the thumbnail transitions to the video, pretty neat
I wish this had a higher battery density. Like 45Whr is not enough these days, maybe next gen. Yes the soc can compensate a bit, but there's degrees to it
Or go nuts and use powertools battery so it can be 'reloaded'
Can you boot Bazzite from MicroSD? Doing that doesn’t work on the WinMax. I’m considering a Batocera and a Bazzite MicroSD and windows internally
Would have to give this a look and see. I am assuming it would be possible but would have to look into it.
@ThePhawx if you find time let me know! I understand it could be an undertaking. I appreciate what you do!
Consider adding Indiana Jones, Avatar, Metro Exodus Enhanced and Silent Hill 2 to the testing pool. To see how handhelds handle RT only games.
RDNA4 is really needed for portable RT.
I know they're the same thing for all intents and purposes. But can we start referring to Bazzite and SteamOS explicitly so that its clear which has Valve support as it's going to be confusing when SteamOS actually launches
They are not the same for all intents and purposes. Bazzite stays much more up to date on the kernel and mesa (userspace gpu driver) side, which leads to some big performance and efficiency improvements that take far longer to arrive in SteamOS. Bazzite also has a different CPU scheduler in the kernel called BORE, which is optimized for gaming and likely helps the 1% and 0.2% lows a good amount. The SCX_LAVD scheduler may be a bit better for both performance and power and will likely come to SteamOS eventually, but the kernel it needs won't come to SteamOS until sometime around the end of the year based on previous trends. Which is disappointing since the LAVD scheduler seems to have been mostly tested on the Deck. Meanwhile, Bazzite already has support for it and it can be enabled with a single command in the console.
I get that Valve wants to move a bit more slowly to prevent breaking things, but it takes about a year for improvements that they have made to enter SteamOS after the changes first make it to mainline. The reason they chose Arch as a base was to be more up-to-date on software, but they're actually moving quite slowly. It's kinda disappointing imo.
@@AlexanderPavelI think that's just how it is when you have a huge userbase, who paid for your product, that you need to protect from any breakage.
This ☝️
I really wish more companies would work with Valve to make Steam OS the default on their handhelds, sadly still so far it's only going to be the much slower Legion Go S handheld that has it as an option, and not the higher power devices with the Z2 extreme like the Legion Go 2.
Give it time, it will come.
I agree with this. I wish we could have a single uniform OS that everyone can get behind so we don't have choice paralysis having to pick between each different OS and what it does better/worse than the others.
@@mull0r-on-linuxthe only thing I worry about is the legion go s steam os model won't sell well and they won't figure out that putting steam os on an underpowered garbage was the fault not steam os.
@@Spencerwalker21 that's my concern too, honestly I don't see any real reason to get the Legion Go S over the Steam Deck OLED so I wouldn't even consider it, but the Legion Go 2 with Steam OS I would 100% buy.
The ROG Ally will have steamos support from Valve in a few months. But you have to install that yourself.
God I love that white 2025 win mini. This is really nice on regards to bazzite and steam os. I have been primarily windows on my win 4 but might try it. Especially when I get a win mini. Thanks for going over this.
I love the look of the white GPD Win Mini but after buying the 2024 I cannot justify it and the major price increase.
@peterd7009 my win 4 is 6800u. This would be a fairly nice upgrade. Plus after messing with my win 1 and 2 again i miss the clam shell design. If i was to get a 2025 i would definitely sell my win 4. Totally inderstand your position.
Coolest transition from the thumbnail to the video on the internet fr
Better idea for flip out screen: flip it back wards instead with protective layer that also flips front to serve as back plate, thus fit oversized thumb sticks for proper gaming.
Bazxite needs to have a tdp slider, a GPU or cpu slider and a core count slider. Perfect fine tuning
CoreCtrl isn't quite a slider, but it is really easy to set up perf profiles and toggle between them.
It has 2/3 of those things by default... Aside from core count, which still requires a 3rd-party tool (can use Decky Power Tools, which works fine with the HX 370), those are available in the HHD menu (I believe on GPD devices, it's holding the QAM button), which is included in Bazzite by default. Steam QAM's TDP slider also works fine - it overrides the HHD slider if adjusted, and vice versa.
Also the inconsistency Phawx found in higher power usage on Bazzite would likely be reduced or eliminated entirely by disabling TDP Boost from the same menu. Doing so doesn't negatively affect the performance at all in my experience - I believe it's more of a bursty/productivity workload feature, rather than than being of any value for gaming.
Great video thank you! But what about lossless scaling and AFMF? I feel these two are important part of handheld experience and I heard at least lossless scaling won’t work on bazzite :/
Amazing investigation. Can't wait to put Bazzite on my 2025 Mini!
I do not need a WinMini
I do not need a WinMini
I do not....
space marine 2 running THAT smooth on a pocketable pc!? oof my mind is blown away seeing this. also great to see gpd win like this. looking slick
Great shear. Cool device. I see a turbo grafx box. So underrated system.
I have ben on the fence for playing with steam OS's running on my desktop.
Any idea if it can run direct x11 ? I need Diablo 2 Resurrected and PoE 2 to run in direct x11 as I want to use steam in a VMwear player as VMwear is the only way I can get a second set of mouse and keyboard.
I heard that steam allows the option to run games in direct x 11. I don't know if they have to be steams version only or any version.
Any thought's ?
Man, that's a ton of cores and threads. Can't wait to see if the Z2 Extreme offers greater efficiency by trimming some of those cores off the HX 370. You don't need more than 8 cores for a gaming box right now.
It only has 4 full fledged CPU cores, maybe you should keep a lid on your dunning Kruger and let the adults do their jobs.
Your graph and your explanation are very pro, precise and informative. Good work !
Yo Phawx, can you do a video about tuning your 7900 gre for gaming? That card is awesome to tinker with.
0:57 The first AMD APU with heterogenius architecture thats worth noting, before this the 8500G and i think a mobile variant somewhere had both Zen4 and 4C cores, which is odd, APU cores are already basically C cores with a smaller die area and 1/2 the cache of desktop cores
when i first laid my eyes on the GPD Win4, its always been my go-to choice for a pc handheld. but after seeing the Win Mini so many times and the fact its been getting refreshed models with the latest hardware, i've been leaning towards the clamshell designed more now. Wish i could afford it though
Don't buy it until they fix the 3 frame latency
Question, how does RPCS3 perform on linux vs windows? My gpd win4 2025 is disappointing at ps3 emulation and i suspect its down to cpu scheduling and inter core latency.
@Phawx what is currently your handheld of choice?
Can u do a benchmark between the mini vs the pocket 4
so excited for the razer blade 16... hx370 with 64gb of memory and a 5090 mobile in such a sexy slim form factor is the kind of portable power I've been craving for years and it's finally here :D
Are you going to review the Onexplayer G1? Preferably with Steam OS.
Question: How is oculink support on Bazzite? Something with the Aya Neo and other devices is that Oculink port and if that works with Bazite that would be game changing to be able to dock it when you get home.
Do you have the possibility to compare the GPD with the ONEXPLAYER HX 370 ?
I've been so close to ordering the HX370 win mini multiple times over the past couple weeks but I can't decide if I want to wait for the Legion Go 2 or just go ahead and get the win mini. I feel like I would prefer the win mini form factor but I just worry about the ergonomics. I do probably 80% of my gaming time these days on my steam deck and sometimes on weekends I will play my deck for hours straight and it's generally very comfortable for me. I just don't know about the weird control layout with the sticks to the right of the d-pad and ABXY. How do you feel about the ergos on the mini? Is it easy to get used to the layout and is it comfortable in the hand for long sessions? I'm honestly leaning more towards the legion Go 2 but when they were showing it off at CES I was assuming it would be coming soon but from what I read it isn't coming until the 2nd half of this year and I don't really want to wait that long to upgrade.
i want to run linux, but i have problem with anticheat games, disabling it getting me banned and lose all money invested in the game
What were you using to do the benchmarks? If CapframeX, how did you get it to work on Linux?
The thing is though that the Legion Go 2 should have the same iGPU as the HX 370 but of course the Z2e will have 8 cores and 16 threads instead of the 12 cores and 24 threads in the AI9 APU but for gaming you wouldn't really notice it at all the performance difference and to be honest would cost less money to go for the Legion Go 2 instead.
Who wouldve guessed after years being at the top GPD still has the best and most cutting edge devices. Still cant understand products from like Aya are better known and more recognised within the community even tho their devices are objectivly worse
Does lossless scaling work in bazzite? It’s a steam app but it requires launching games in windowed mode to work properly. I have been curious about bazzite for a while but I can’t give up my frame generation…
If all games would run on linux I would switch immediatly but thats not the case thats why gamers stay on windows.
That's why you aren't switching to Linux. But you don't speak for everyone. Many gamers may choose to switch despite losing access to about a dozen games due to anti cheat
Windows gaming is horrible.
I want this form factor with full OG Steam Controller layout there...perhaps the keyboard could still be there but smaller? 😄
Hi man thanks for your videos. Also could you please add Helldivers 2 to your tests please!
If only this had a bigger battery, say the same size as a steam deck oled. As well as a 1080p oled vrr native landscape display... The lack of those 2 things are the only reason I am not pulling the trigger and getting one. Really this is the first device from GPD that I would have ever considered though. If I didn't have a steam deck oled at least.
thank you so much for this video! I have a win mini 2025 preordered and was curious how well linux ran on this vs windows, I'm trying to move fully over to linux so it's nice to see that this will be a no brainer move once i get the device!
What happens if you disable all the little cores?
I was wondering the same thing. Ideally it would leave more TDP headroom for the GPU, and from what I've seen the 890m scales better with more TDP than the older 780m which doesn't really benefit from more power past 30W on the APU.
Is there HDR support with the screen? I honestly find that for the games I play, the SD OLED with much worse performance, just looks so much better on low graphics settings - with HDR on - than on my gaming PC with high FPS and an old IPS panel.
Yes and dedicated consoles do quite well but what other apps does it run lol? Apples and oranges I want top pc performance with 10-20% of current power use, that would be impressive.
Sounds like SteamOS / Bazzite will be a perfect match for the upcoming Legion Go 2 that has Z2 Extreme that shares a lot of similarities with HX370
I'd eventually love to see a Bazzite vs SteamOS. The Deck can be crazy efficient without touching a single setting
I don't know about sub-10W (since basically no one has done benchmarks of it), but at 10W HX 370 on Bazzite matches or exceeds the Steam Deck efficiency. What you said was mostly true for all chips "until" Strix Point, though 15W is typically actually where the previous chips started exceeding Steam Deck performance - the 7840U/8840U at 13-14W were roughly equal to the Steam Deck at 15W. Note I'm only talking about CPU package power, not total system power, which obviously can vary a lot, and is better (lower) than average on SD.
For example, comparing a couple games with Bazzite on HX 370 here with Phawx's video where he showed the slight performance differences between the SD LCD vs. OLED at 10W:
* Batman has ~6 higher average FPS, 3 FPS higher 1% lows, and 9 FPS higher 0.2% lows on HX 370.
* CP2077 is like +/- 3 FPS (HX 370 has better lows, worse average vs. LCD, but better average vs. OLED).
* Deus Ex is almost exactly the same for both averages and lows.
@ I was replying to this exact quote from you: "The Deck is crazy efficient because of its custom-built APU which runs crazy efficiently at lower TDPs (15w and lower) compared to these Strix Point behemoths."
While I guess you could call them "behemoths" because they can be set much higher (30-35W) than the SD (which is capped at 15W), my point is that Strix Point is no longer inefficient at low wattages relative to the SD's custom solution if you cap the CPU package power to be equal at lower wattages.
It's still inefficient in a sense that smaller node gives you similar performance than old one. Efficiency gains from node shrink is balanced by inefficiency due to having higher tdp target and playing below optimal point. From experience they also drop quicker the lower you go below optimum.
You can claw that back by disabling cores, so not a dealbreaker, but a bit finnicky.
Efficiency on new architecture/node + efficency from targeting lower tdps could be big.
Right now new ones mostly allows you to burn through your battery even more and gain something for it. Good for docked experience though.
Man this linux stuff is good, I'm going to install it on my steam deck!🙃
I hope the Steam Deck 2 not only waits for a significant performance-per-watt advancement but also solid state batteries. Or at least, the future option to upgrade a non-glued battery for a solid state one. 🤞
Does SteamOS normally not just work on it? I’m sure the controls and stuff on the device might not work but it would be interesting to see how it performs regardless.
I tried bazzite on my Kun, and ultimately went back to Windows. Only because the Kun has an EC that the Ayaneo buttons are directly connected to, making those useless without a driver...
lossless scaling is single handedly keeping windows relevant for me even after being a linux user for about 5 years
is Ray Tracing and DLSR and AFMF supported in bazzite? it runs off Vulcan drivers right?
Ray tracing is, AFMF (assuming you are talking about amd fluid motion frames) isn't. I'm not sure what you are refering to with DLSR, do you mean connecting a DLSR camera as a webcam?
Running Bazite on the OneXfly F1 Pro. Loving it! It has the same HX370 chip.
That absurd power usage in a very old game reminds me of issues I've had with _Final Fantasy X-2_ on the Steam Deck-the game just demands as much power from the CPU as it can, which led to it running *worse* (to the point of instability and crashing) if I didn't manually set a low TDP limit. I suspect that it must have just not been written with proper sleep() operations.
Saw similar behaviour in Sacred too. Same a bit jumpy ~60fps framerate no matter if 4W or 28W and without limit it tries to even out those bumps needlessly.
Does Bazzite or Steam Os support Vr gaming (steam vr or meta), and what is compatibilty like with gaming perhipherals like a Fanatec wheel for example? Also does it support all the major game libraries? Dolby Vision or Dolby Atmos support? These newer handhelds are quite powerful and have the power of a low end gaming pc when docked. But I wouldn't switch to Steam OS or Bazzite if it doesn't have the compatibility and the level of 3rd party support that Windows has.
No. It doesn't. It supports Steam, not all games, mind you, and you can try and install launchers from others publishers like Epic, Ubisoft or EA, but they are a hassle and you lose all the advantage of using SteamOS (that it works like a handheld console). Oh, no microsoft store or game pass of course. Most of the software that works for windows doesn't work in linux (which is what this is), I couldn't even use Razer Synapse for my Razer Naga Pro mouse.
That's what they forget to tell you. SteamOS is just good for (some) steam games with the integrated controller and some bluetooth ones.
I use my ROG like a miniPC with a dock, so I can do anything that a full desktop can in a very small package, so it stays with Windows. Everything works.
And in handheld mode, I don't have a problem. I can use the touch screen like in my phone or tablet, these people seem alergic to using a touchscreen now.
@valrond Yep, I have an Aya neo Kun and use it like a mini pc when docked as well. I would consider switching from Windows to an alternative OS, but Steam and Bazzite seem more like a downgrade compared to Windows since they are missing so many features and compatibilty.
@@LeeLee-fi7mx On Linux I think ALVR is the best bet for VR but from what I’ve heard it’s hit and miss, works great for some, terrible for others, ymmv type of thing. So as usual in Linux, you pay with your time.
I've got Bazzite running on a GPD Max Win 2 (2024) and if I'm putting the device down for any period of time, I just shutdown. It boots quick enough from cold to not be any real inconvenience.
Dang I couldn't even load the options menu in Space Marine 2 on my 2024 rtx4050 laptop.
Has anyone received one of these? It says it's shipping on the indigogo, but they say shipping is in March. I would like to order one today but don't want to wait for March lol.
What do you think about the Win Max 2025? I have one with HX 370 64GB and 10tb storage (8tb 2280, 2TB 2230) Dualboot with Bazzite and Windows.
I started using Bazzite about 2 weeks ago. I am actually really disappointed with the user experience. I keep getting sliders that don’t work. Games that won’t close. Settings that won’t save. Vulkan shader compilation steps that never progress. I constantly have to restart the my ROG Ally. Now, once in games, it’s really good.
Would like switching to bazzite but lossless scaling not being available for linux keeps me back.
Modern standby typically polls Wi-Fi, try airplane mode when you go into standby see if that helps power drain
I have the same chip on an asus laptop with a 4070, and I couldn't get linux to rn. Wouldn't boot right, and grub install fails 😢
If Steam OS was available as a supported alternative for 4K capable PCs, MS would lose a LOT of business.
Windows 24h2 update bricked my win 4 8840u causing me to install bazzite last night. Couldn't get bazzite to install on the 2024 mini 8840u the flash drive i set for the mini was plug and play on the win 4 for whatever reason mini kept getting hung up on the install. Win 4 is amazing now tho
gpd looks clean🥶 fsr 4/type upscaler for rdna 3/3.5 pls amd. performance looked so much better than fsr3.1 and perfect for saving watts🙏
The scheduler on current Windows 11 seems to favour Intel over AMD on desktop systems. Lots of desktop benchmarks have shown that AMD performs better on Windows 10 overall for gaming. Microsoft needs to sort this out.
I wish Bazzite had proper support for older Aya Neo handheld
Do you recommend bazzite for gps win max 2?
What is the equivalent "steam" button on these devices when using bazzite?
If I'm not mistaken, it's what he says at 5:06 - press Menu and A together.
@@Winnetou17 I believe you can also hold the menu button for it, and double tapping opens the Bazzite HHD menu. I might have those flipped though.
They have dedicated l4 and r4 buttons. That third from the left and second from the right
Is z2 extreme supposed to be similar to this hx370?
Is Bazzite early deploying NTSync?
Can't you fix the mouse by changing some settings in libinput?
Hi Phawx! How about Bazzite on 8840U?
8840u is literally the same core/igpu [8x Zen4+780m, even same clocking core and gpu wise] as 7840u/z1e.. just z1e has no npu, 7840u has one, just is fairly small, 8840u, same npu as 7840u, just faster clocking.
This is Bazzite not SteamOS for those wondering.
It’s just those things are way to expensive
This is comparison is flawed.
Bazitte prioritizes the iGPU by default.
You can do it in Windows with Universal x86 Tuning Utility Handheld.
Energy Performance Preference changes the priority between CPU and iGPU, set it to 100 for iGPU.
Combine that with AFMF2 or lossless scaling and it will be even better.
If you want a proper comparison, set the CPU and iGPU to the same fixed clocks in Bazzite and Windows.
Bazzite turns your handheld into a console, you can only play games.
Windows turns your handheld into a PC, you can do much more.
It's up to the handheld manufacturers to include proper power management tools, not (Microsoft) Windows.
Install Universal x86 Tuning Utility Handheld, or Handheld Companion and use the right options.
Bazzite doesn't "turn it into a console". You can use the desktop mode making it just a normal pc
@vlada909 is it really a normal PC ?
Can you install Office on it ?
All the apps to make your 3D printer work ?
Capture cards ?
Authenticator apps for 2 form authentication ?
Other devices you might buy or apps you actually need ?
Let's be honest, Linux, Unix, or whatever, is really cool but limited and requires tweaking.
Most people don't know how to do that and don't have time to waste tinkering.
@@brunoflausinodasilva7372 Yes.
Yes you can install office apps.
I don't have a 3d printer but a quick google search shows that it seems to be possible.
My capture card works just fine on linux.
Why would authentificator apps not work?
Most work just fine. My external sound card for my xlr mic and electric guitar actually works better on linux then windows. And I expected to have problems with it lmao.
Honestly it really depends on what you do on your pc. Generally linux has been mostly tinker free for me and my usecase and distros like chromeos show that it can work great for basic tasks for a lot of people.
Of course it's not for everyone (people who use adobe for work for example) but linux PCs are deffinately normal PCs.
@@brunoflausinodasilva7372 What a subtle way of saying you don't know what can be actually installed on any Linux distro
You can install LibreOffice, OnlyOffice and even Microsoft Office if you don't care about it running through wine, note that the first two are fully compatible with all the features MS Office has and are a little better handling images on documents.
All the apps to make a 3D printer work? I don't know but at least Ultimaker distributes its software for Linux officially (didn't check any other brand) and Blender is Linux native, I don't use 3D printers myself and it's pretty much an edge case scenario but a simple search on google showed this.
Capture Cards? Native support without installing drivers because thankfully Linux devs actually used their brains and made drivers be included as kernel modules (functionality can be managed through your Desktop Environment settings GUI or third party apps)
Authenticator apps? I'd assume people already have an Android phone or an iPhone for that, but worry not, if you want to have it on your Linux PC, there are apps for that, Google Authenticator itself for example.
Any piece of additional hardware 99% of the time will be supported out of the box only using kernel modules drivers (without downloading or installing anything), that's the case for printers, capture cards, audio interfaces, net cards, etc.
Talking about tinkering being a need in Linux and at the same time saying you need to install and configure at least three apps on Windows to make this a "fair comparison", I actually think that IT IS a fair comparison because it compares both systems as they were out of the box, if the manufacturer that ships the device with Windows didn't optimize it, the user most likely won't either.
Most mainstream Linux distros don't need tinkering (or the use of terminal) ever if you don't want to (it's only an option), Bazzite here is an example, and yes it starts up with Steam's Big Picture by default because that's the use case of that distro, just play games game, but underneath it has KDE and you can change settings (through GUIs, no terminal required, no installing anything else required) to make it start with KDE, and also enable one tap to left-click two taps to right-click on the trackpad, that is an option inside KDE Settings (again GUI).
Now of course Linux has problems, NVIDIA drivers are good now but NVIDIA feature support could be better, most online game developers bork Linux support intentionally, there's no AMD Adrenalin app (God I miss AMD Adrenalin), and Adobe doesn't want to support Linux, there are alternatives obviously but it's not the same, I mean I don't like Adobe but it being a pretty important company for PC professional users is a fact (you can run old Adobe software through wine like Adobe Photoshop CS6). However these problems aren't alike the ones you portrayed and personally I don't think Linux Desktop situation is bad.
lossless scaling run on steamOS? if not, windows is better... lossless scaling in portable device's that you almost don't see quality decrease and artifacts, is just a revolution, and the imput lag under 20ms is totally playable, much better than running a game in 30fps.
I think the GPD Win Mini would be my favourite handheld console design - _if_ it had a decently large battery.
If you check out some disassembly videos, there is basically no room, it's pretty much the most jam-packed of the handheld PCs on the market. Only hope with this form factor would be improved battery technology.
@@velgus Fair point. Didn't Huawei use some new battery tech in the Mate XT? If they can leverage that for the next model, I might splash out.
Not really sure, don't follow those kinds of devices - I suspect they just used all those folds to give it a much larger battery than a phone could normally fit though.
Also not really directly comparable, as it's an ARM device.
@ apparently the Mate XT uses Silicone-Carbide, it is slightly more dense (energy/volume) compared to LiPo. Maybe not commercially viable for larger capacities though (yet).
Neat, if that's the case, hopefully becomes more widespread soon.
Anyone else want a smaller version of this? Like the original win mini intel one
Nice review. The HX3070 looks great /s
I would love to see it with the AI 395+ Max.
Honestly, Linux in general wins over Windows in terms of performance and resource effectiveness.... I switched to Manjaro Gnome recently (Arch distribution for "the average user"), and sure, I haven't fiddled around with the terminal, I don't use gamescope, I don't have the fancy features of Steam OS's "Big Picture Mode" (But it's probably only a matter of time before all of that will become integrated with Steam itself as "mandatory dependencies"). My take away is that performance is either equal or much better than Windows, and if the average performance is worse than windows, then the 1% lows are typically still far better resulting in a "smoother" and more consistent experience. In many games I have witnessed Linux allocate about 1-2GB less VRAM in modern AAA games. And now when I am playing FFVII Rebirth I realize that I have no stutters (unless I turn the camera super quickly with the mouse, that however, seems to be a "geometry culling" issue). When I tired in Windows stutters were everywhere, it felt atrocious to play, and yes, I did wait for shader caching. With all of that being said, I know Valve has been working with AMD for the last 10+ years with their Open Source Linux drivers, and I use an RX6800, so that could be the reason why I am having such a good experience. Still my gf has a 1050Ti, and that's also a good experience on her computer with Manjaro.
I think its fair to compare 15w and 17w if the total TDP of the whole system is still equal
Not going to lie, this video has really made me want one of these... But the prices, considering I have a steam deck oled and this is not that much better overall I'm still not sure. If only it had a slightly bigger battery...
Downside is you give the cpp access to your personal information
Would still see something like playnite come to linux or os similar to this in future.dont really like having to sign in to steam and add all non steam stuff to it.
Something like playnite would be great for a dedicated gog machine for e.g
You have Lutris and the Hero Launcher that do exactly what your asking for. I personally like Lutris better.
@Siltprogramation is there a guide somewhere on how to setup to auto boot/launch to it after powering on the handheld? And both support controllers navigation?
Nintendo DS Lite my beloved, this is close enough.
Why didnt they just double stack the battery on any device? Just make it thicker.
As I always say: Bazzite sounds like an OS TechDweeb created :p
I hate the whole bigLITTLE/p+e/heterogeneous core BS. Intel came up with it because their CPU efficiency sucked. AMD didn't need to do this whole castrated core thing because their CPUs have been efficient for a long time now.
love the thumbnail intro haha
What about Atlas OS?
In other news, water is wet.