Installing Mac OS on the Nintendo Wii!
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- Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024
- For years, people have wondered if its possible to install Mac OS on the Nintendo Wii. So today I'm going to attempt to do just that. Let's see what I got myself into this time.
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06:44 - Since Basilisk II is a 68k Mac emulator, this image that was designed for it didn't work on the Wii because it didn't contain a PowerPC ROM.
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"which is hands down the most frustrating feeling ever, when something works just fine for everybody else, but when you do the same thing, theres a problem."
truer words were never said
I was running into that issue today trying to build some open source stuff. Follow the instructions exactly, except you need this thing it didn't tell you about, and that thing needs this other thing that they don't tell you about xD
God that reminds me of trying to get Minecraft mods as a kid... I actually cried trying to go to the aether
@@byeFofiko1i tried to go to the aether in vanilla Minecraft, and i also tought that it was the secret "water dimension"
Literally!! It happens so freaking often to me 😭
Omg same
17:09 I love when performance is measured in seconds per frame instead of frames per second
It was probably .5 frames per second lol
;) Back when I discovered how cool ray tracing was, back in 1991 on my i486DX33, I would be describing basic scenes within text file configs, using primitives and referring to texture images, etc. When it came time to render to 1024x768 256 colour, I'd kick it off just before going to bed, so that it would be ready for me when I woke up after shortly after.
Rendering single frames literally took hours! Although it was actual ray tracing with non-faked reflections and refractions, so nothing like the compromises used for 3D games of the time.
1 Frame Per Sleep!
That's called frame time.
So true
@@beardymcbeardface69 bruh
Running doom on mac os on linux on a wii is a sentence i would've come up with as a joke but you actually did it
No replies but hearted
Man these videos never get old
Especially the 2019 videos, love em
Finally I've been waiting for this video
It’s an hour old right now, actually
for real
@@obseletechannel same thats around the time i started watching this channel
I'm so impressed with the fact that you managed to get it working, especially as complicated as it was with all the workarounds
Holy shit, I wanted to cry watching this video. It was so refreshing to finally see someone else try to do something simple, but have problem after problem along the way, and finally figure it out after spending so much time on it. Tears of joy to know that im not the only one in the world dealing with this bullshit.
Hiii
Hi @@Mister_Remo
Hi @@Mister_Remo !!
Hey MJD, I'm the guy who sent you the "Mac on Wii" video some months ago. Thanks for making a tutorial of it, I couldn't find a way to do it
"Things are never simple on this channel"
-Michael (at 1:03)
1 second ago
True, things always go wrong, this makes the video more entertaining
@@chrism869 things always go wrong also on me
@@chocolateimage oh you think, cause i have the same things happen to me, my computer stopped working after trying to update the Macintosh version, it wouldn't boot anymore
Please don't change dude. Informative videos are what the tech community need.
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What if most things that MJD has made or tested has worked, but he only uploads the videos when he encounters problems.
It makes sense
But it's just a theory, an MJD THEORY
From my experience with tech, it's very unlikely🤣 especially with the weird stuff Michael does. He's just destined to have problems.
It occurs in an alternate universe.
It's called good content
Thank-you for answering an age old question I had ever since I found out that the Wii had a Motorola PowerPC chip. I didn't actually think it would be possible! Shame you can't get the mac version of Halo running :) That would have been too beautiful.
It's an IBM one but yeah
It's IBM not Motorola
You would need OS X to play Halo.
I mean... the original developer kits that Microsoft sent out for the XBox 360 were literally off-the-shelf Apple Power Mac G5 towers with "property of Microsoft" stickers and running the PowerPC port of XBox Windows, even has an OG XBox emulator built in that can run the original Halo. Anything's possible. :D
If Doom was running that slow, Halo would've been in the seconds-per-frame territory. XD
I feel like the font issue could be down to difference in formats between TrueType and OpenType or something like that. Might be an idea to install fonts of different formats and see if any display correctly in TextEdit
Brill
TextEdit is a Mac OS X app. The Classic version is either TeachText (which I hate) or SimpleText.
I remember reading somewhere that the video card/driver doesn’t support a texture format that either MoL or Mac OS proper uses.
I was curious if there is like a drop shadow option or something similar in a menu. I've personally not used Mac os, but other operating systems have shadows or highlights to spice up text, was curious if that was happening here. It makes a little sense to me, the fonts are clearly displaying but it's like they were widened by 100% also he changes font, maybe changing font size would be more useful as a test to see if larger is legible
Is truetype the Mac equivalent to clear type?
@@sovo1212 TrueType is a standard font format, with files ending with the suffix “.ttf”.
This is so freaking cool! I love the classic Mac glory days -especially when all of that 90’s bliss gets mashed into initially unrelated 2000’s bliss!
I have a lot of nostalgia for that MacOS9 always brings such nostalgia. The computer was already old when I I got in the mid 2000s but I enjoyed it a lot.
Same here! I remember using MacOS9 at a computer lab when I was younger, so it has so much nostalgia for me, too
@@scout8145 For me it was an ex school computer that I got for free as the school was throwing it out. It was probably from
96 or 97 pre iMac and it was obsolete. But I still had fun with it. We had a PC at home but I put it in the summer house so I could use it when I spent my summer vacations there during my teenage years. I played a lot of StarCraft and some other games not to mention I filled it with every picture or video of Sung Hi Lee I could find on the computer back home that had internet and burned them to a disc and brought. She was sort of my 14 year old crush 😅
I like the look of classic Mac OS, but man, it sure liked to crash a lot. A single program freezing would lock up the machine. Even Windows 95 was better at handling this.
This is my new favorite MJD video, the pacing is on point.
I think it would be possible to get Mac OS9 running natively on Wii, not via a linux abstraction layer, but natively natively.
You'd just need to basically modify the entire OS to treat the wii hardware as native mac hardware, which means drivers and add-ons to teach OS9 how to use the Wii's hardware.
Something like the software uses for Sonnet CPU upgrades, something to redirect the bootloader, native SD card/USB support using the Wii's controller, new memory mapping, new GPU drivers (which might actually not be that hard since it's an ATI GPU).
It would be a lot of work for a meme.
I hope someone does this. OS 7,8,9 running on the Wii would be an incredible way to keep this OS alive in hardware form other than, say, modding a Powerbook G4 to run classic.
I gotchu bro
Instantly subscribed. The fact that you would even do this, makes this my kind of channel.
I wonder if the font issue has to do with hardware acceleration. You can see the same types of graphical corruption affecting the Quicktime Player UI, so maybe if you can disable graphics acceleration that might help clear up some of the corruption.
Possible. The font issue looks like it can't handle anti-aliasing of text so it blacks it all out.
It looks like it might be a floating point issue, but I'm not familiar enough with the hardware or software enough to say.
Yeah, that makes sense. I wonder if you can disable anti-aliasing in Mac OS 9. Though I don't recall Mac OS 9 using any anti-aliased fonts in the UI.
@@pikachuchujelly7628 Anti Aliasing arrived in Mac OS 8.5. Yes, in Mac OS 9 you can disable anti aliasing of fonts in the Appearance control panel.
@@pikachuchujelly7628 All True Type fonts above size 11 are treated to anti-aliasing by the OS. Appearance control panel can disable that feature.
I love watching your videos. Friends and other nerds say I have too much free time to do silly things .. but you make me feel so much better about the crazy crap I do. Best Wishes to ye! :) Keep being awesome.
I have met you in this video and you have a new follower. I love doing things like that on my own, pushing things to the limits of hardware or doing mindless mixes. I have always summarized with my friends playing PS Vita (Sony) to Forza Horizon 5 (Xbox) through Moonlight (PC) with a Wii remote (Nintendo) but now they will see my Wii with MacOS .. crazy
It's not a MJD video without something going wrong.
Lol
What is this? Druaga1?
The "Stop" or "Continue" prompt during the installation was essentially asking you if you wanted to install additional software. You can stop here and the system will boot just fine.
I've been subscribed for about a year now, and this is the first time I cheered out loud (alone, by myself) when I saw the MacOS 9 bootscreen... amazing!
The generic format for MJD videos:
"Hello everybody, and welcome back to another video. Now, in today's video, we're going to be trying to play Cyberpunk 2077 on the Wii."
*three seconds later*
"Well, shoot. There's a problem. Uh, my house is on fire."
But dude, really, I have been watching you for a while now, and you make my days. Thank you so much! My dad had a Dell Latitude D600, along with his business partner, and I want to give you one of them. I just need to ask him for permission to send it to you, but if he says yes, (which he might not, but you never know) please contact me. Thank you again, Michael!
Nice
It's literally just a slideshow in 140p.
The reason why doom ram slow was because MacOS 9 has no graphics drivers for the ATI Hollywood GPU in the Wii, which is based on the Radeon X series.
There better be an OS X follow-up to this. Wonder if Action Retro would be willing to make an Mac that's as near to a Wii's hardware as possible as the flip side of the coin.
OS X requires at least 128mb to run, so it's not gonna happen.
@@Moonhack95 A suped up Wii, then
i would say an 800 or 900mhz ibook g3 with 64-128mb ram would be a good compasrison to the wii
I've often thought it would be an interesting test to see how many 'layers' of emulators you can run on a system without crashing and without making the final layer unusable. For example, imagine a super fast Windows PC running an Amiga emulator which is itself running a C64 emulator (like Magic 64). Is it possible to go more levels?
I've done 3 before. Linux PC running Switch EMU, running MelonDS, running a GBC emu. Or you can go from DS to SNES/NES/Genesis/2600... Theres a lot of options to run stuff from a DS, but you dont really get much emulator support on anything older.
So far I made two times 2 emulators chained.
The PS3 emulator RPCS3 support the built-in firmware PS1 emulator to run some PS1 games on my Linux PC using a PS3 emulator.
Also I revived an old MS-DOS emulator called NO$GBA to play Game Boy games, using DOSBox running on Linux.
Windows 11 pc running windows 7 via virtual machine running blue stacks a android emulator which runs dolphin a Wii emulator which runs SNES via virtual console which runs super gameboy a gameboy emulator and the gameboy game would be a port of an arcade game lol
Then you get your android phone and remotely control your pc using moonlight to play all the above and you stream your phone to your smart tv. How many layers idek. A lot of it isn’t technically emulation but still it would be cool to see lol
@@vascomanteigas9433 with how the ps3 works I wouldn't be shocked if a ps3 emulator starts a ps1 emulator outside of itself to run ps1 games. Also this has to be the worst way to run a ps1 game though emulation.
@@RaveN_EDM qqAs
18:00 First there is a game with top notch graphics while keeping a smooth 60 FPS, truly a magnificent piece of engineering and entertainment. And then there are wii games.
You mean metroid prime 3?
I love how you can't even read most of the text in the OS, it just makes this whole thing more cursed that it already is!
I opened RUclips and then saw this video on the home page and thought "nice!!! Someone finally did it" and then had the best surprise possible on a video: my comment is on it!!
I remember being pretty impressed when I had Yellow Dog Linux installed on my PS3 running emulators, Firefox, and MSN Messenger.
Did ya get your $6 in the class action suit? XD
No, what the hell? I could've had it all! 😭
The Mac Emulated HDD ran out of space, that's why so many errors, you had run out of free disk space. Surprised you got as far as you did, kudos on this! Nice job getting something working that shouldn't onto something so "weak sauce".
"Everything runs DOOM, it's just the law" - MJD 17:34
Except Wii U, since apparently there's a law to NOT port stuff to Wii U.
(fr tho there's no N64/PS1 emulation on Wii U, no media player either, and not even a file browser, and i think you can't run DooM on the latest Wii U hack)
A couple months ago i saw a wii mac mini case mod. This is the real McCoy. Well done mate 👏👏
I think the text issue might be MoL running at a lower color depth than Mac OS. That could explain why all of the grey pixels in the antialianed text end up black.
The future is bright. I'm all for this. How cool! There's probably ways to get this to potentially run natively in full in the future.
Im pretty sure Steve Jobs just did a backflip in his grave
💀
U still watching @@goldoreo747
7:33 kept replaying it because that was the cool part, the music just goes with the video too satisfying and happy
Even searched for the music
Did u fund out what the music was?
Misplaced my keys by Stevia Sphere
So... those errors that you saw during the installation process, I wonder if that's tied to the size of the image you used (the iMac file), and if that can be solved by creating a new file (dd bs=1048576 count=1024) for a larger hard disk drive.
i can't get enough of this format of videos
Great stuff, it never occurred to me that MoL would work here. The issue with the glitchy graphics (which didn't appear to be only fonts) feels like it must have occurred somewhere else. I wonder if it's worth trying to run at different colour depths, e.g. 16/24 bit colour, or even just 256 color mode ? It looks like there are more moden versions of Linux available, like wii-linux-ngx, it might be worth trying and building MacOnLinux for it.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I immediately noticed that something screwy was happening with the color depth while it was booting. I get the feeling that X was using 8-bit colors whereas MacOS was higher. That would definitely mess with fonts like that.
I remember this speculation many many years ago, cool to see it actually done without emulation.
Lol it's a staple, when everything doesn't go right, I actually love these types of videos and they are very interesting and entertaining lol.
Oh dude, this video was awesome, each time you managed to get a “small” victory I was genuinely smiling and cheering you up !
I would love to see this Linux installation on a modded wii that has an HDMI port
i'd like to see it on a wii u tbh
Too bad Mac os at the time didn't had accessibility options to magnify the text.
...so a Wii U?
@@cat1554 No, a Wii with a HDMI port.
@@stale2665 The Wii U has a virtual Wii inside it, with full backwards compatibility (there is Wii hardware inside the Wii U) but the virtual Wii doesn't support most homebrew, so I'm not sure if it will even work
The more videos of you doing stuff like this, the more i get confused how this is possible. I think its hilarious how this is possible.
Could the font issue be about Smoothtype or anti-aliasing?
PS - Nice work!
That intro was perfect. If you though installing linux on the wii was crazy, well buckle up. Clicks eject button. Mac os 9 disc comes out. Perfect
Loved it. Its an adventure to do this stuff. Sub earned btw.
Thank you!
Great thumbnail. Caught my attention couldn’t help but watch.
I love the way how computer technicians think. The hope when you boot something that you know it dont boot but its boot. It is the best thing ever. (Rgh xbox 360 memories)
Wow!! I didn't realize my Wii is using a PowerPC. Hmm! I wonder if I could install AmigaOS 4.x? I'm really glad I came across this. I'll check your other videos, too.
Id love to see it if you end up getting amigaos to run
This is so silly and so cool. Love it! I have to assume a lack of video acceleration or how Linux/MOL is handling video is causing the weird artifacts and poor Doom performance. It looks like it was struggling with system animations too.
Omgg I've been following you for a long time, and seeing you talking bout me it's like aaaa (I'm the gbatemp guy ;p)
Great video, as always!
Btw
I just tried to flash the image a couple of weeks ago, and had the same issue of the Wii not booting. I just backed up the stuff on the boot partition, formatted it and it was good to go
You might try turning off font anti aliasing and see if that fixes some of the font stuff.
This. It really does look like all the pixels related to the anti-aliasing are going black.
This is beautiful. Now you need to take that Wii and drop it off at a goodwill. Would be plenty confusing.
I noticedat 15:17 that when you hovered over the restart option, it was partially readable. I don't know if that could help with diagnosing the issue, but it does look like it's fixable
I haven't watched this bro in a year and his videos are still good
What a 4 year old sees on a computer
Ur dumb
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Porn
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@@petergriffinf00tball beep beep tick took soundy beep light *poops*
Great video as always. Next step: Trying to run the PowerPC build of Windows NT 4.0!
I sincerely doubt any of the existing ATI drivers for Mac OS 9 would be compatible with the custom ATI Hollywood chip, but if someone could somehow tweak those to work, it might resolve some of the graphical issues.
My go-to for geek needs! Nice one man
Would love to see if you could turn the Wii into basically a thin client to use in order to Remote Desktop into a full pc
Oh yeah, that's definitely possible. There are homebrew apps like WiiVNC that can do it. Only problem is that the Wii's 640x480 resolution is pretty low, so it may be hard to read things.
@@pikachuchujelly7628 could potentially fix by adding hdmi output through modding
Madlad, I would have never thought this would be possible 🤯 too cool!
this framerate _(and quite possibly font)_ issue may be due to lack of compatible video driver. even if there’s none widely available for the specific part that’s in the console it’s worth trying to search for the _.kext_ driver files for hacintosh for parts of the same manufacturer (unfortunately i’m not familiar with Wii’s exact specification, but I assume there’s a chance that it may use GPU from a somewhat conventional brand), even if the specific models won’t match. i remember i was able to “guess” my way to get the wireless adapter on Eee PC to run succesfully on OSX 10.5 (Leopard). still, be prepared to brick the system a couple of times along the way, but i somehow assume that you may already know this loool
The Wii's GPU is the ATI Flipper, and it only exists in the GameCube, Wii, and Wii U. While there were some ATI graphics cards in 1999 with similar feature sets, they would certainly not be similar enough to use the same driver.
It's a brand new day. The sun is shining, and there's a new mjd video.
I used MOL *seriously* for a while on my iMac DV back in the day, with linuxppc as a base, it was very, VERY good and I could use it for codewarrior and so on, and the speed difference with the 'native' version was really negligible. I don't remember that font problem on the 'real' iMac tho, it's odd! Perhaps there are a couple instructions that differs *slightly* with the original G3?
The Wii's CPU is basically a G3 (PowerPC 750). It lacks AltiVec instructions that a real G3 has, with its own Nintendo-specific vector instructions instead. I think the font issue may be some incompatibility with color depth.
So cool!! Thanks for pushing through the pain of getting it working! If someone can fix the font display issue it will be amazing!
Wow!! Maybe you could try windows 7 next time? Great video Michael!!
Its probably impossible due to technical limitations
Not possible I don't think you can go past windows me or maybe you could get xp though upgrade
@@ArtieArchives Mabye with a version of Tiny7
Maybe he could get XP but probably not kefir trouble use an Xbox 360 to get seven on
Hmmm I think Windows 7 wouldn't be possible. But XP could maybe work...
I've never seen any video like this, his videos are AWESOME!
To me the Text corruptions looks like an issue with either Anti-aliaising of the font or subpixel rendering.
That's a pleasant thumbnail. I can't explain it.
Bro playing the game who is this going to trigger first? Nintendo lawyers or Apple lawyers. And answering why not both 🤷
You know what is nice whenever I get out of school right away some Michael mjd video is there on some days
this is super cool, need to get my old wii out of storage now lol
I wonder if the font problem has something to do with TrueType
Why was your wii in storage?
driver problem is my guess. it's a miracle it even boots on the wii
the challenges along the way made the goal more worthwhile
I had this running years ago on a Amiga 1200 with blizzard PPC 603 card, also using linux and MOL and a lot of initial troubles..
Did SheepShaver not work with that card?
@@burtbladers No i never got it to work back then.. and i was fan of Shapeshifter wich was working even better then a original 68k mac on Amiga.
That intro is one of the best I've seen in a while
That graphics problem looks like a special multicolor mode. The graphics chips interprets Pattern as new colors ar sth. like that. In normal text mode - not bold - you do not have the pixels so close to each other. And it may be different graphics panes of the Wii chip.
18:00 Impressive running doom on powerpoint
This is the shit I'm interested in and what I've been studying computer engineering for!
Precisely useless garbage like this 🤣
Thanks for sharing!
Actually, I want to say that I did NOT fall for that MacOS CD-ROM prop!! Great joke though, and AMAZING video my friend!!
iWii
Such an masterpeace...
Today MJD installed MacOS on an WII
I swear to god this technology for the wii is evolving. I wouldn’t be surprised if you could install Xbox 360 games onto the wii at this point.
That's not possible. It's not powerful enough.
He was... joking.
@@computerkid1416 Maybe as a slide show
Thanks for the video, more of this kind of stuff please!
You are a beast when it comes to patience. 😂
I have been waiting for someone to do this!
Nice work! System 7 is my favourite, it probably runs super nice but not sure which version if any would be PPC-clean.
I got lost very early on, with all the go-here-and-do-this-then-do-that-and-repeat, but given that trying to install MacOS 13 on VMware (which I actually did) or totally replacing Windows with it, sent me into a headspin, I admire your tenacity!
I've thought about this for a while! Nice to see someone actually do it.
I did not think i would see this today
8:07 this kinda reminds me of the hilarious glitch when Michael MJD tried to upgrade from Windows 95 to Windows ME. That was insanely hilarious--and I laughed for hours and hours even after I watched the video! 😅😂🤣😂😅
It's so refreshing to see that TechTV logo
Never thought I'd see OS 9 running Doom on the Wii...
finally this is the content I've been waiting for
I love how far we've come
Mac OS 9 takes me back to elementary school. Makes me think of those crazy color imacs
I loved how smoothly Doom ran at 60 FPS (frames per season)
Awesome video! Btw, you sound like you could pass for Bob Saget haha. Has anyone told you that? 😂 Very similar voice. Just subscribed to your channel. I have a Nintendo Wii that I need to start using again. Such an awesome console for its time. Thanks for the video!