GPD's market share in handheld PC is getting smaller due to the rise of Steamdeck and major manufacturers' effort like ROG Ally or Legion Go so they decided to create this insanity. This might be a niche device but I love when manufacturers just have all the resources to create the most insane design PC that actually worked
I'd much rather have my Win Max 2 over a Steam Deck. The Steam Deck and its imitators are compromised to the point of making no sense. I will never understand the appeal vs. the WM2.
The steamdeck is an impressive piece of hardware at a very attractive price, but it comes with a lot of drawbacks. It's not really portable unless you put it in a dedicated case to protect the screen and sticks, so it enables you to play games lying on the couch instead of sitting at your desk but that's not really a game changer. The various imitators from rog and lenovo and such have all the same drawbacks, but with a heftier price tag and less comfortable control layout, so I don't get the point. Something like the GPD Mini fills a niche nobody else does, a full computer that will *literally* fit in your pocket, and it's even lighter than any of the other handheld PCs. But I do definitely like seeing GPD branch out into machines for engineers and designers and such in addition to just gaming. It seems like almost nobody who makes computers gets creative with it these days; they make a laptop that looks exactly like it did ten years ago, and the media treats a 14-inch screen instead of 13 or 15 like it's a revolutionary thing. GPD engineers are making things nobody else is making, and it's a gamble to be sure but it also means they have almost no competition for their (very limited) target market.
Those are gaming handhelds first, this is a productivity monster on the go. I do see this as a must have for digital nomads, who also does play to time in an all-in-one package.
@@nickthaskater ambidextrous thats all you need to know about steamdeck... and thats one of the reasons to their success, because 10% of people instantly have no other option, GPD dont even bother about left-handed people
I know, I am way behind. You'll have a very compressive review on the GPD DUO in about a week or so. I'll be comparing 780m and 890m (and I also hope to be undervolting in the review as well. Just a ton to cover really)
As someone who's been rocking the GPD WIN 4 8840U, I thought I had seen it all. But the GPD Duo? This thing makes my WIN 4 look like a toy! I mean, dual OLED screens, a 4090 running through oculink, and PCIe slots for days? It's like someone at GPD said, "What if we took a desktop workstation, crammed it into a laptop, and gave it features no sane person would ever need?" And I *love* it. The WIN 4 was already pushing the boundaries, but the Duo takes it to an entirely different universe. I used to think having a pocket powerhouse was enough, but now I’m looking at this insane, dual-screen, battery-conserving monster, and my WIN 4 feels like a warm-up lap. If you’re the kind of person who loves tech overload-and I mean *loves* it-this is the machine for you. It’s not just a laptop; it’s the tech lover’s dream come to life.
It has multiple full length m.2 slots, so dual-booting should be easier than on most laptops, but I do worry about how smoothly the dual-screen controls will work...
Personally for me, I would love a full sized 16" version - imagine dual 4k OLED screens (there is a 4k 90Hz 16.3" OLED out). That version could be a full workstation that you could take on the go (it would be as thick as a gaming laptop or workstation) with 2 screens. A larger form factor would allow for other things such as better speakers.
Looks great, but they need to at least publish API documentation for the displays state changes (e.g. to tablet mode) so someone else can write a Linux driver. I'm 100% the target market for this, but without Linux support it's a hard pass.
He just needs to dual boot LMDE or Debian or Fedora on an external ssd & dual boot to check, should be OK probably 80% for multi screen, worried about other hardware drivers though
I'm seriously considering this. I have the GPD Win Max 2 7840U and I could really use the extra performance for software development. Also, I've been having frequent crashes with my 4090 connected via occulink, hopefully this one will be more stable.
Amazing to see how well the Duo performs as a desktop replacement with OcuLink eGPU. This is how I will use mine 85% of the time. Look forward to the full review.
I've never seen you this excited. This seems like the perfect geek laptop. I've been excited about it myself since it was first announced, but I decided not to buy it. If only it were lighter, I'd have been tempted. I want a small and light laptop, not a desktop replacement.
@5:25 Oh wow it can be Undervolted, now THAT is awesome. Really hope future Strix Point based handhelds will be able to Undervolt, that will give them the definitive winning edge over Lunar Lake based handhelds. Otherwise this generation is looking more competetive than we thought (minus all the Intel igpu driver issues which puts it a peg or two below Amd igpu by default).
Thank you very much for this review, I like a lot this device. But the possible screen wobbling is a very important aspect for me. I would have liked to see some typing action to see if the screens react to it.
Very much looking forward to full testing on this monster. It would be nice to see a few little details like a 180 degree hinge, high/variable refresh rate on the screens, full size arrow keys, haptic touchpad, etc... but at a glance this looks like pretty much everything I could want in a computer with very few and minor tradeoffs. Buuuut I definitely need to see enough units out in the wild to get a better idea of quality control standards before I commit to anything.
I'm getting a Ryzen HX 370 laptop in the near future. Currently, waiting for Framework 16 to support it. Will definitely be considering this ridiculous machine, as it's definitely piquing my interest.
If this thing had 120hz displays it would be damn near perfect. Honestly this with 120hz LTPO displays and Lunar Lake would be the dream machine for anything on the go.
@@fooboomoo lunar lake is obviously more efficient, however it wouldn't be able to support the OcuLink eGPU provided in this laptop and more (2.5gbps lan port, 32gb also max) the AI 370 chip is the best available right now for the features this laptop has
@@fooboomoo Faster and more efficient at higher power sure but something like this with Lunar Lake could get plenty of work done and have way better battery life than any Strix based machine.
I am glad they went with the Ryzen 5 and not Lunar Lake for this laptop. The HX370 seems to be a very flexible chip, great for low power workloads and very powerful as a workstation.
I love this! THOUGH I'd love to see more of the built in GPU and what the laptop on its own can do(and if I should consider purchasing it) rather than adding the expensive 4090 on top!
Wow! The BIOS is amazing. 8000 MT/s? Disable 5c cores? PBO? This is mini PC levels of tinkering on a laptop. Honestly a great system to test HX370 as is, having control of most variables.
Your enthusiasm is infectious. I don't need this, but there's realistically no longer any hope of my not buying this when its IGG campaign launches. I can hear my wife already: "Another device?!?" Thanks, Phawx.
Omg What a lovely device. I absolutely love it, extra screen for editing would be awesome. i miss my zephy duo but this device looks absolutely fantastic. i'll look forward for the full review specially the battery life, a good enough battery life will be nice for me
So many bells and whistles aside, the brave little CPU dealing with Oculink, CPU-hungry desktop 4090 and video encoding at the same time with a decent 4K gaming experience is pretty insane. Please compare Strix Point+Ocu4090 against desktop CPU performance if you please!
@@nickthaskater it's comparable to the R7 7700X/7745HX in benchmarks and even then, the L3 cache is reduced in both the Z5 and Z5C cores compared to desktop Zen so it's easier to bottleneck when multitasking with a desktop 4090. It's a small CPU.
That's incredibly impressive. But if GPD didn't upgrade their pen tech from the capacitive touch screen, we don't expect much on that front. We won't need any tests if that's the case. And yes digital artists will always be asking you gamers and PC nerds about this stuff!
Ohhh, what do we have here, im pretty interested in a setup like that. One thing i don't like is 60hz, but honestly speaking, if you are running on the igpu, most likely you won't be able to push triple A games passed that if played at 1080p or above. What I do love is the fact that you can connect external devices to the screen. I remember my friend had a gaming laptop with said feature and we used to play PS3 or any hdmi capable device, it was an awesome experience.
For gaming without plugging it into a full desktop setup, yeah you're unlikely to need more then 60Hz and it saves some battery life. But if you actually folded it into the world's thickest tablet, I don't like how the screen response lags behind the movement of a finger or pen on 60hz touchscreens. There's a reason every modern smartphone is at least 90, usually 120Hz.
@sindrisuncatcher653 indeed, but this is the first one for them, and as you know, companies are not willing to give you everything so that they can "keep giving customers" something new for their next one. I would've loved at least 120hz on a nice 1440p oled screen that can hit at least 1,000 nits.
thats not too much. I've been doing that sort of configuration when working remotely outside of my home office. just get a portable 15" lcd monitor and place that on your keyboard, then attach an external keyboard. You will need a good laptop cooler/stand. Bulkier but cheaper and definitely works for me if I am not on my home work station.
very passionate review, what I want is a framework style 16-18 incher with a bunch of nvme slots and slots for use expansion, also I want it to use 18650 cells so it can be upgraded over time, I dont care about size or weight much. also the top screen being eink would be better for a workstation.
I would definitely get one if I hadn't already got a 1st gen Lenovo Yoga book 9i. The YB9i is seriously underpowered compared to this but I guess I don't really 'need' the extra power. The gaming prowess can be made up for with my GPD G1 portable eGPU. Cheers for the early view.
Call me crazy but this actually seems like a pretty good deal? The Dell XP13 9340 I just got at my new job costs 400€ more with a 13" 1080P IPS, absolutely no ports....and the worst keyboard I've used on a laptop so far. ...Although I'd be missing the really sweet glass handrest with the trackpad, thats the only _great_ thing about this machine, and I wish everyone had it.
@@tnt_champ1002 Well yeah, at higher loads you'll obviously be saturating the Oculink bandwidth. In my testing, mid-range to upper-mid range cards perform best under Oculink. The performance loss isn't that noticeable. But using something beyond a 4070 is just gonna give you diminishing returns on x4 4.0 lanes.
let me get this again. The second display can act as own separate display for any other PC/tablet/whatever? the connection is USB-C and you get touch input? this makes me want one of these.
If your gpd product arrive with issues or develop issue within the warranty period, do you have to pay for shipping back to china from your own pocket for the RMA?
How does this balance on a desk,if the screens aren't straight up? It doesn't look like there's a way to reach a comfortable angle without it falling back.
pls include performance without obs / encoding as well! im in particular super curious about how much better this is for windows smoothness like moving chrome tabs around across monitors, premiere pro and games in 4k (like gta online) when connected to a 4090 compared to the same setup with the wm2
What pen protocol does it use?, when do we get prices?, Usually I dont like at these brands but honestly no company is making these form factors with up to date specs
Which model of oculink dock did you use ? BTW given GPD's history with their previous laptops, it baffles me that despite all these BIOS features they could take the time to test and include in the Duo, and despite that an indiegogo campaign allows them to plan in advance the exact amount of sold units that should be built, they surely won't give any option to replace the qwerty keyboard by an azerty one.
well its not advertised as a gaming machine, hence no VRR and the panels are 60hz, but with an oculink egpu it can definitely fill that role on a desk.
It seems good but real case scenario is not suitable for most people. For portable, it is too heavy. If you mostly put it on a desk, you can easily find a second monitor or many other devices to improve using experience. The price is too high, compare to other light weight/gaming laptop the price/performance ratio is low. Touch screen is nice but it is not a deal breaker, otherwise windows surface sales will not been unsatisfactory. Nowadays an all round but high price product is only good on paper.
@@barneyfromblueshift They've stood by their recent offerings very well. The Win Max 2 has been around for more than 2 years and has seen 3 revisions and ongoing software/BIOS support. It's also not anything close to what I'd consider "expensive" for what you get.
@@barneyfromblueshift "sunsetting" implies that they're no longer supported. All of the WM2 revisions are actively supported. Updating the chipset of models is commonplace in PCs. Literally every manufacturer does it.
I had a home made version of this for a while, and for spreadsheets it actually was really good. Issue is price - old Thinkpad and secondary monitor, might scratch $300. This I'm thinking $3000.
Having the battery sit at 100% all the time is maximum voltage for the battery and keeping it there all the time is not ideal for batteries. Will cause greater wear on the battery in an accelerated fashion resulting in needing to replacing it sooner than otherwise.
Full review coming later. Literally going through *hundreds* of benchmarks right this moment. bench at *every* watt and in different configs. 7500MT / 8000MT / 8000MT PBO undervolting. It takes a LOT of time.
Hi, I'm a game development student and I'm looking for a good laptop that's i can take on trips and still make 3d models. Would this laptop be able to handle programs like maya and zbrush. I also love gaming. Could I play world of warcraft from it?
GPD's market share in handheld PC is getting smaller due to the rise of Steamdeck and major manufacturers' effort like ROG Ally or Legion Go so they decided to create this insanity. This might be a niche device but I love when manufacturers just have all the resources to create the most insane design PC that actually worked
The GPD Duo is *literally* too much fun haha
I'd much rather have my Win Max 2 over a Steam Deck. The Steam Deck and its imitators are compromised to the point of making no sense. I will never understand the appeal vs. the WM2.
The steamdeck is an impressive piece of hardware at a very attractive price, but it comes with a lot of drawbacks. It's not really portable unless you put it in a dedicated case to protect the screen and sticks, so it enables you to play games lying on the couch instead of sitting at your desk but that's not really a game changer. The various imitators from rog and lenovo and such have all the same drawbacks, but with a heftier price tag and less comfortable control layout, so I don't get the point.
Something like the GPD Mini fills a niche nobody else does, a full computer that will *literally* fit in your pocket, and it's even lighter than any of the other handheld PCs.
But I do definitely like seeing GPD branch out into machines for engineers and designers and such in addition to just gaming. It seems like almost nobody who makes computers gets creative with it these days; they make a laptop that looks exactly like it did ten years ago, and the media treats a 14-inch screen instead of 13 or 15 like it's a revolutionary thing. GPD engineers are making things nobody else is making, and it's a gamble to be sure but it also means they have almost no competition for their (very limited) target market.
Those are gaming handhelds first, this is a productivity monster on the go. I do see this as a must have for digital nomads, who also does play to time in an all-in-one package.
@@nickthaskater ambidextrous thats all you need to know about steamdeck... and thats one of the reasons to their success, because 10% of people instantly have no other option, GPD dont even bother about left-handed people
Bro, we are waiting for 780M vs 890M ❤
Not just that, also Lunar Lake vs 890m in more games and benchmarks
@@genio8820 lunar lake is not likely to be in handhelds tbh, only in MSI
With some 15w, 25w, and 30w for future handheld speculation.
We love this guy, because he is a most technical reviewer of igpu, especially for handhelds
I know, I am way behind. You'll have a very compressive review on the GPD DUO in about a week or so. I'll be comparing 780m and 890m (and I also hope to be undervolting in the review as well. Just a ton to cover really)
YOU GOT ONE!!! I've been dying to try this out since it was announced.
As someone who's been rocking the GPD WIN 4 8840U, I thought I had seen it all. But the GPD Duo? This thing makes my WIN 4 look like a toy! I mean, dual OLED screens, a 4090 running through oculink, and PCIe slots for days? It's like someone at GPD said, "What if we took a desktop workstation, crammed it into a laptop, and gave it features no sane person would ever need?" And I *love* it.
The WIN 4 was already pushing the boundaries, but the Duo takes it to an entirely different universe. I used to think having a pocket powerhouse was enough, but now I’m looking at this insane, dual-screen, battery-conserving monster, and my WIN 4 feels like a warm-up lap. If you’re the kind of person who loves tech overload-and I mean *loves* it-this is the machine for you. It’s not just a laptop; it’s the tech lover’s dream come to life.
i am thinking win 4 with dual screen like gpd duo 🤔🤔🤔
@@yunn4tn omg that would be amazing! I just finished the entire wukong game on my WIN 4 😁
This is what laptops should be.
I love how excited you are here. This is why I love tech. It's so cool to experience something fully loaded and different like this.
GPD: Please give us WinMax 2 owners the ability to limit battery to 80%! Thanks.
Please test Linux on this machine! I need to know before indiegogo starts.
It has multiple full length m.2 slots, so dual-booting should be easier than on most laptops, but I do worry about how smoothly the dual-screen controls will work...
Yes please please please test linux on this
He's right, to see Hardware drivers working fine & dandy & stable on LMDE, Debian, Fedora, endeavourOS/Arch + multi screen use
Personally for me, I would love a full sized 16" version - imagine dual 4k OLED screens (there is a 4k 90Hz 16.3" OLED out). That version could be a full workstation that you could take on the go (it would be as thick as a gaming laptop or workstation) with 2 screens. A larger form factor would allow for other things such as better speakers.
That would be an instant buy from me, even if the battery is like 2 hours but I can get over that
Need some testing on running Linux. Specifically Ubuntu. I'm interested in this as my dev laptop in addition to occasional gaming machine.
Looks great, but they need to at least publish API documentation for the displays state changes (e.g. to tablet mode) so someone else can write a Linux driver. I'm 100% the target market for this, but without Linux support it's a hard pass.
Convertibles are already supported by lots of DEs, it's nothing too special.
Will probably work out of the box I can imagine
He just needs to dual boot LMDE or Debian or Fedora on an external ssd & dual boot to check, should be OK probably 80% for multi screen, worried about other hardware drivers though
I wondered if I was the only person geeking out over this. Glad to see I'm not alone.
I'm seriously considering this. I have the GPD Win Max 2 7840U and I could really use the extra performance for software development. Also, I've been having frequent crashes with my 4090 connected via occulink, hopefully this one will be more stable.
Amazing to see how well the Duo performs as a desktop replacement with OcuLink eGPU. This is how I will use mine 85% of the time. Look forward to the full review.
It’s nice to see different stuff. GPD is amazing.
I've never seen you this excited. This seems like the perfect geek laptop. I've been excited about it myself since it was first announced, but I decided not to buy it. If only it were lighter, I'd have been tempted. I want a small and light laptop, not a desktop replacement.
@5:25 Oh wow it can be Undervolted, now THAT is awesome. Really hope future Strix Point based handhelds will be able to Undervolt, that will give them the definitive winning edge over Lunar Lake based handhelds. Otherwise this generation is looking more competetive than we thought (minus all the Intel igpu driver issues which puts it a peg or two below Amd igpu by default).
Love the nerding out, as always!
Thank you very much for this review, I like a lot this device. But the possible screen wobbling is a very important aspect for me. I would have liked to see some typing action to see if the screens react to it.
Very much looking forward to full testing on this monster.
It would be nice to see a few little details like a 180 degree hinge, high/variable refresh rate on the screens, full size arrow keys, haptic touchpad, etc... but at a glance this looks like pretty much everything I could want in a computer with very few and minor tradeoffs.
Buuuut I definitely need to see enough units out in the wild to get a better idea of quality control standards before I commit to anything.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen the Phawx this giddy
I'm getting a Ryzen HX 370 laptop in the near future. Currently, waiting for Framework 16 to support it. Will definitely be considering this ridiculous machine, as it's definitely piquing my interest.
I did not realize the 4090 was 2x as fast as my 4070. Nutty
If this thing had 120hz displays it would be damn near perfect. Honestly this with 120hz LTPO displays and Lunar Lake would be the dream machine for anything on the go.
do not forget 60 Hz oled looks better than my 100 Hz VA in motion (trust me I use them side by side right now daily)
Without Adaptive sync, still bad..
Why Lunar Lake? Strix Point is faster and more efficient
@@fooboomoo lunar lake is obviously more efficient, however it wouldn't be able to support the OcuLink eGPU provided in this laptop and more (2.5gbps lan port, 32gb also max) the AI 370 chip is the best available right now for the features this laptop has
@@fooboomoo Faster and more efficient at higher power sure but something like this with Lunar Lake could get plenty of work done and have way better battery life than any Strix based machine.
Always love @Phawxs enthusiasm with new tech . Looks like a fun piece of kit !!
I am glad they went with the Ryzen 5 and not Lunar Lake for this laptop. The HX370 seems to be a very flexible chip, great for low power workloads and very powerful as a workstation.
some gaming on the IGPU would be good to see.
I love this!
THOUGH I'd love to see more of the built in GPU and what the laptop on its own can do(and if I should consider purchasing it) rather than adding the expensive 4090 on top!
Wow! The BIOS is amazing. 8000 MT/s? Disable 5c cores? PBO? This is mini PC levels of tinkering on a laptop. Honestly a great system to test HX370 as is, having control of most variables.
Your enthusiasm is infectious.
I don't need this, but there's realistically no longer any hope of my not buying this when its IGG campaign launches.
I can hear my wife already: "Another device?!?"
Thanks, Phawx.
XD Understandable
What an amazing laptop. GPD is truly innovative.
Would love this if I didn't already have an ally and fold6 KVM combo. Hope this series sticks in the future when my ally gets outdated
This thing looks really cool! Im sure it will cost about 2000 dollars or more but the potential use cases of it seems worth it
Omg What a lovely device. I absolutely love it, extra screen for editing would be awesome. i miss my zephy duo but this device looks absolutely fantastic. i'll look forward for the full review specially the battery life, a good enough battery life will be nice for me
So many bells and whistles aside, the brave little CPU dealing with Oculink, CPU-hungry desktop 4090 and video encoding at the same time with a decent 4K gaming experience is pretty insane. Please compare Strix Point+Ocu4090 against desktop CPU performance if you please!
"Little CPU"? It's a 24-thread Ryzen 9, lol.
@@nickthaskater it's comparable to the R7 7700X/7745HX in benchmarks and even then, the L3 cache is reduced in both the Z5 and Z5C cores compared to desktop Zen so it's easier to bottleneck when multitasking with a desktop 4090. It's a small CPU.
cant wait for the full review on this cool device
I've been wanting to build a top display for my laptop for a while now! The ergonomics of that thing have got to be awesome
you can test it now by using a portable lcd screen.
@@kafredo mounting is tough but thats the plan
Gpd are my favorite company, wish they had a UK store
Doesn't Droix operate out of London?
@@sindrisuncatcher653 ah yes and they have it for pre-order too.
my only concern with this - will it be too heavy
Waiting for the 990m and 120hz screen… next year. This laptop looks killer.
That's incredibly impressive. But if GPD didn't upgrade their pen tech from the capacitive touch screen, we don't expect much on that front. We won't need any tests if that's the case.
And yes digital artists will always be asking you gamers and PC nerds about this stuff!
Ohhh, what do we have here, im pretty interested in a setup like that. One thing i don't like is 60hz, but honestly speaking, if you are running on the igpu, most likely you won't be able to push triple A games passed that if played at 1080p or above. What I do love is the fact that you can connect external devices to the screen. I remember my friend had a gaming laptop with said feature and we used to play PS3 or any hdmi capable device, it was an awesome experience.
For gaming without plugging it into a full desktop setup, yeah you're unlikely to need more then 60Hz and it saves some battery life. But if you actually folded it into the world's thickest tablet, I don't like how the screen response lags behind the movement of a finger or pen on 60hz touchscreens. There's a reason every modern smartphone is at least 90, usually 120Hz.
@sindrisuncatcher653 indeed, but this is the first one for them, and as you know, companies are not willing to give you everything so that they can "keep giving customers" something new for their next one. I would've loved at least 120hz on a nice 1440p oled screen that can hit at least 1,000 nits.
GPD are doing some crazy stuff, love my winmax
thats not too much. I've been doing that sort of configuration when working remotely outside of my home office. just get a portable 15" lcd monitor and place that on your keyboard, then attach an external keyboard. You will need a good laptop cooler/stand. Bulkier but cheaper and definitely works for me if I am not on my home work station.
I never really knew that this device is something that I needed, thank you awesome video
That BIOS is just amazing!
This is legitimately so friggin cool
This is the first mobile cpu that I’ve seen that can fully utilize a 4090 over oculink. Pretty impressive cpu
I have a GPD Win Max 2 2024 8840U with an RTX 4090 that is working flawlessly
Dang. This actually seems better than Lenovo and Asus' dual monitor models.
very passionate review, what I want is a framework style 16-18 incher with a bunch of nvme slots and slots for use expansion, also I want it to use 18650 cells so it can be upgraded over time, I dont care about size or weight much. also the top screen being eink would be better for a workstation.
I would definitely get one if I hadn't already got a 1st gen Lenovo Yoga book 9i. The YB9i is seriously underpowered compared to this but I guess I don't really 'need' the extra power. The gaming prowess can be made up for with my GPD G1 portable eGPU. Cheers for the early view.
I wish GPD made a pocket pda/phone with qwerty keyboard
or a gamepad like xperia play, that would be fucking nuts
Could get a pinephone pro w/ the keyboard case
How big is your pocket? GPD Win4 could fit in mine if I took it out of its grips (and you could spec it with a 5G modem and SIM).
The Win Mini is pretty close to that, unless you mean an actual phone like the Planet Computers Communicator.
can we limit the battery on the gpd win mini through the BIOS as well?
Call me crazy but this actually seems like a pretty good deal?
The Dell XP13 9340 I just got at my new job costs 400€ more with a 13" 1080P IPS, absolutely no ports....and the worst keyboard I've used on a laptop so far.
...Although I'd be missing the really sweet glass handrest with the trackpad, thats the only _great_ thing about this machine, and I wish everyone had it.
What is the performence loss of using the 4090 though Oculink compared to regular desktop 4090?
Lol huge.
The best you can hope for is 4070-ish performance from Oculink in general.
@@OC.TINYYY even at 4k?
@@tnt_champ1002
Well yeah, at higher loads you'll obviously be saturating the Oculink bandwidth.
In my testing, mid-range to upper-mid range cards perform best under Oculink. The performance loss isn't that noticeable. But using something beyond a 4070 is just gonna give you diminishing returns on x4 4.0 lanes.
I recommend that you watch Try Some Tech's video about oculink performance loss. He tested 4090 specifically and saw around 10% loss on average
Waiting for the Uno version 😂. That would absolutely rock.
lol haha. Yea somethings in the pipeline
This is exciting!
I want a duel monitor mod like that for my Framework 16!
Waiting on the next ASUS Duo. The last one was decent but underpowered (power/thermallly constrained). Hopefully the new CPU generation helps
For a second there I thought I heard you say "the hawk tuah version" @2:04
OneXPlayer would snap a telescopic controller on that thing and call it a handheld.
let me get this again. The second display can act as own separate display for any other PC/tablet/whatever? the connection is USB-C and you get touch input?
this makes me want one of these.
GPD just brought the boy out in The Phawx! 🤣
The Duo really is too much fun haha
@ThePhawx I have the Asus Zenbook Duo 2024. I'd love to see a comparison. Not easy to get hold of both I guess!
@@ThePhawx It sure looks it. I just wish it was dual 14" 120hz displays then I'd sell my Asus Zenbook Duo 2024 lol!
The Devs dream laptop 😍
any devs see this gonna make them buy this too😂
Hey Phawx! Thanks for the quick impressions video! When will the proper review of the Duo be released?
If your gpd product arrive with issues or develop issue within the warranty period, do you have to pay for shipping back to china from your own pocket for the RMA?
Looking forward to the Strix Halo Win Max version 🎉
How does this balance on a desk,if the screens aren't straight up? It doesn't look like there's a way to reach a comfortable angle without it falling back.
They should call it the GPD "But wait! There's more!"
Thanks for showing the camera. Trying to see if this works well for Zoom. What height is the camera at with 2 screens open?
The video has dropped!!1 🙌
Such a memeable review. Oled goodness basking on my face😂😂
pls include performance without obs / encoding as well! im in particular super curious about how much better this is for windows smoothness like moving chrome tabs around across monitors, premiere pro and games in 4k (like gta online) when connected to a 4090 compared to the same setup with the wm2
GPD is breaking away from the competition
How does the size of this compare to the Minisforum V3? If the screen was 3:2 aspect ratio, it would cronies be my next devoice.
waited for this video for ages!!!!!
linux video pls with undervolt and power optimezed settings, need to know the battery life of the device
Waiting for that review!!!
I regret buying the WM2 now 😂😭 (literally got mine 2.5 weeks ago).
I would love this thing for character design and animation.
But the price +~50%?
WM2 is 3" smaller and has an integrated gamepad. Totally different products.
@@nickthaskater yeah, but I’ve mostly been using mine for work; The gaming aspect is secondary, but nice to have.
Ya’ll are right. I’m happy with my purchase.
Looks amazing, but how about freesync screen? That's the main feature we require!
What pen protocol does it use?, when do we get prices?, Usually I dont like at these brands but honestly no company is making these form factors with up to date specs
The same protocol as the surface pro, you can use the same pens. Preorder, price & and shipment dates are up NOW on GPD store.
@@UTsquid which surface pro, is it MPP 2.0 or 2.6 that's my specific question, thanks in advance.
finally a laptop for composing
Can you use the top display as a monitor with the laptop itself being off?
I never understood why notebooks don't allow for video-in so that you could hook up a Steam Deck and dipslay it on the larger screen.
How loud are the fans? I have the Win Max 2 (6800u) and the fans are pretty loud under any load. Also any word on Linux support for the second screen?
I'm still holding out for the GPD Pocket 4
waiting for the full review of this monster
I was gunna wait for the win max 3 but this is insane
how could I miss this video❤
Which model of oculink dock did you use ?
BTW given GPD's history with their previous laptops, it baffles me that despite all these BIOS features they could take the time to test and include in the Duo, and despite that an indiegogo campaign allows them to plan in advance the exact amount of sold units that should be built, they surely won't give any option to replace the qwerty keyboard by an azerty one.
The oculink egpu solution I've been using is the osmeta one from China. Been using it for a year. It's been a champ
can you connect the nintendo switch over the usb-c in the AMOLED2 screen or dock/HDMI only?
I believe you can, but will explicitly test it
I don’t need it I don’t need it I do…I do need it…
I'm curious how this will stack up against the similar 2024 Asus Zenbook Duo with its detachable keyboard/trackpad.
when one device advertised to do multiple things usually its a trap
well its not advertised as a gaming machine, hence no VRR and the panels are 60hz, but with an oculink egpu it can definitely fill that role on a desk.
It seems good but real case scenario is not suitable for most people. For portable, it is too heavy. If you mostly put it on a desk, you can easily find a second monitor or many other devices to improve using experience. The price is too high, compare to other light weight/gaming laptop the price/performance ratio is low. Touch screen is nice but it is not a deal breaker, otherwise windows surface sales will not been unsatisfactory. Nowadays an all round but high price product is only good on paper.
This is the GPD story all day long.
Weird, cool, super expensive mashups of ideas that get sunset within 2 years.
@@barneyfromblueshift They've stood by their recent offerings very well. The Win Max 2 has been around for more than 2 years and has seen 3 revisions and ongoing software/BIOS support. It's also not anything close to what I'd consider "expensive" for what you get.
@@nickthaskater 3 revisions in 2 years is exactly the kind of thing I mean.
@@barneyfromblueshift "sunsetting" implies that they're no longer supported. All of the WM2 revisions are actively supported.
Updating the chipset of models is commonplace in PCs. Literally every manufacturer does it.
I had a home made version of this for a while, and for spreadsheets it actually was really good. Issue is price - old Thinkpad and secondary monitor, might scratch $300. This I'm thinking $3000.
Sign me up. I want this and the Huawei phone as well. Take my bread!!
why is charging to 100% bad. i assume its bad for battery, but how bad and why?
Having the battery sit at 100% all the time is maximum voltage for the battery and keeping it there all the time is not ideal for batteries. Will cause greater wear on the battery in an accelerated fashion resulting in needing to replacing it sooner than otherwise.
What is the point of only showing gameplay fps when connected to 4090 eGPU?
Full review coming later. Literally going through *hundreds* of benchmarks right this moment. bench at *every* watt and in different configs. 7500MT / 8000MT / 8000MT PBO undervolting. It takes a LOT of time.
Hi, I'm a game development student and I'm looking for a good laptop that's i can take on trips and still make 3d models. Would this laptop be able to handle programs like maya and zbrush. I also love gaming. Could I play world of warcraft from it?
ETA Prime better get one of these
Almost certainly he will :)
Hope someday will come gpd win mini on snapdragon with full day battery
I foresee issues with the hinges in half a year to a year
can you try to do any Hip rendering with blender? what's the performance?