Absolutely! I live in a London flat and while my neighbours are pretty laid back, it takes some adapting to make it work without driving them crazy. I think I'm getting there...
E kits are not quiet, they are quiet in comparison to acoustic sets. Unfortunately, it takes much more effort to actually reduce transfer through the floor, especially if it's framed wood consstruction, not a concrete floor. I use Roland KT -10 foot pedals on my set which are supposed to be quiet but sounded like cannons through the untreated floor. They could hear it three floors below. Those things shook the framing all the way down multi levels. In my case, the project had low probability of any real success unless I was willing to go to extreme levels to make it work. I was under threat of a lawsuit from the association after I tried to use the e kit in my condo. Drumming since the 1960's, someone who was a studio drummer back in the '70's, playing to tunes in headphones is something I have done for five decades. When I moved to a condo I thought the e kit would be an easy answer. Unfortunately, it was not. I started with the tennis ball thing like you did and found it very poor in isolation. It did almost nothing. Then I got rid of that and did a riser with 5" of high-density foam and a layer of 1/2" OSB, it was way better, but nowhere near good enough. Then another level of Dacron pillows on top of that and two layers of OSB on top, better. Then 1 lb mass loaded vinal, 2" of terry cloth towels, then another level of OSB, four levels in total. That actually works for my drum riser inside a booth I made. It takes 11" of height of various sound absorption materials to actually absorb the low frequency impacts of the foot pedals. The situation is ridiculous, but if I want to use an electronic drum set in a Condo environment, that's what it took. 1/2" OSB has a STC rating of 26, similar to drywall, due to the high glue ratio - heavy weight - of the product. Multi levels of that, with absorption materials between is the ticket. It appears as the impulses penetrate each level of OSB, a percentage rebound into the absorption materials between each level till it gets to the 5" foam spacer at the lowest level, where the remaining impulse is low enough not to penetrate at any significant DB level. Could be that one could simply use high density foam between the OSB panels, say one 5", then multiple 2" thick ones with similar or even better results. The terry cloth idea comes from a RUclips video I watched. I just kept throwing money and different ideas at it till it worked. All levels float, no fasteners at all. Even zip ties will transfer impulses. I don't sit on the thing. Maybe some of these ideas will be of help to others. Good luck.
Communication with the neighbors takes a lot out of a potential bad situation. Most will appreciate the efforts and put up with more than they would if you just ignored them. Nice build.
I thought you arent supposed to actually sit on the riser but instead have your throne off the platform and raise it up really high. Ive heard it makes a big difference
Great video, very well presented, as someone else remarked, you seem a very nice guy ;) I'm about to start sound proofing one of my bedrooms for an acoustic drum practice room! I don't think it's going to be too bad as I'm starting with 20" thick solid stone walls! The ceiling, floor, door, and window will be the weak points for sound leakage. I was considering making one of these platforms too. I have a wooden floor, but at least it is only my own living room underneath it! The room currently has bare varnished floor boards. I will be adding the thickest underlay and carpet I can afford before treating the rest of the room. I couldn't tell from your video, but when you say you have a concrete floor with wood on top, do you mean a laminate floor? I'd have thought adding a high quality thick underlay and carpet before putting the platform in would improve your results even further. I believe you can even get a professional sound barrier underlay mat. Another thing I would try is reducing the volume of that foam you have under the platform if possible. Less surface contact area should equate to less mechanical noise transmission in theory. Good luck :)
I think you did the tennis ball thing wrong. If you cut holes into the wood the balls can not take so much energy. Also you better not sit on the same platform because your weight already compresses the tennis balls.
Thanks for the video, was helpful and straight to the point. Just one quick question, is the flooring in your building made of wood or concrete? Because I believe that also makes a big difference in the results.
Exellent example of good neighbours working together with respect consideration and understanding! You're a nice guy, much respect.
My neighbor complains when I stop playing drums. That's how good I am.
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The hardest part of learning to play the drums is definitely being able to practice without the neighbours complaining about the noise 😆
Absolutely! I live in a London flat and while my neighbours are pretty laid back, it takes some adapting to make it work without driving them crazy. I think I'm getting there...
You are the ideal musician neighbour! An inspiration to all of us recording in our own apartments. :) Thanks for the review!
It’s very cool and good how you managed the situation. Thank you for sharing !!!!!
E kits are not quiet, they are quiet in comparison to acoustic sets. Unfortunately, it takes much more effort to actually reduce transfer through the floor, especially if it's framed wood consstruction, not a concrete floor. I use Roland KT -10 foot pedals on my set which are supposed to be quiet but sounded like cannons through the untreated floor. They could hear it three floors below. Those things shook the framing all the way down multi levels.
In my case, the project had low probability of any real success unless I was willing to go to extreme levels to make it work. I was under threat of a lawsuit from the association after I tried to use the e kit in my condo. Drumming since the 1960's, someone who was a studio drummer back in the '70's, playing to tunes in headphones is something I have done for five decades. When I moved to a condo I thought the e kit would be an easy answer. Unfortunately, it was not.
I started with the tennis ball thing like you did and found it very poor in isolation. It did almost nothing. Then I got rid of that and did a riser with 5" of high-density foam and a layer of 1/2" OSB, it was way better, but nowhere near good enough. Then another level of Dacron pillows on top of that and two layers of OSB on top, better. Then 1 lb mass loaded vinal, 2" of terry cloth towels, then another level of OSB, four levels in total. That actually works for my drum riser inside a booth I made. It takes 11" of height of various sound absorption materials to actually absorb the low frequency impacts of the foot pedals.
The situation is ridiculous, but if I want to use an electronic drum set in a Condo environment, that's what it took. 1/2" OSB has a STC rating of 26, similar to drywall, due to the high glue ratio - heavy weight - of the product. Multi levels of that, with absorption materials between is the ticket. It appears as the impulses penetrate each level of OSB, a percentage rebound into the absorption materials between each level till it gets to the 5" foam spacer at the lowest level, where the remaining impulse is low enough not to penetrate at any significant DB level.
Could be that one could simply use high density foam between the OSB panels, say one 5", then multiple 2" thick ones with similar or even better results.
The terry cloth idea comes from a RUclips video I watched. I just kept throwing money and different ideas at it till it worked. All levels float, no fasteners at all. Even zip ties will transfer impulses.
I don't sit on the thing. Maybe some of these ideas will be of help to others. Good luck.
Communication with the neighbors takes a lot out of a potential bad situation. Most will appreciate the efforts and put up with more than they would if you just ignored them. Nice build.
I thought you arent supposed to actually sit on the riser but instead have your throne off the platform and raise it up really high. Ive heard it makes a big difference
How would that make a notable difference?
How does this compare to using tennis balls or the Roland Noise Eaters?
Great video, very well presented, as someone else remarked, you seem a very nice guy ;) I'm about to start sound proofing one of my bedrooms for an acoustic drum practice room! I don't think it's going to be too bad as I'm starting with 20" thick solid stone walls! The ceiling, floor, door, and window will be the weak points for sound leakage. I was considering making one of these platforms too. I have a wooden floor, but at least it is only my own living room underneath it! The room currently has bare varnished floor boards. I will be adding the thickest underlay and carpet I can afford before treating the rest of the room. I couldn't tell from your video, but when you say you have a concrete floor with wood on top, do you mean a laminate floor? I'd have thought adding a high quality thick underlay and carpet before putting the platform in would improve your results even further. I believe you can even get a professional sound barrier underlay mat. Another thing I would try is reducing the volume of that foam you have under the platform if possible. Less surface contact area should equate to less mechanical noise transmission in theory. Good luck :)
@40somethingdrummer26 *What's the size of your drum raiser?*
I think you did the tennis ball thing wrong. If you cut holes into the wood the balls can not take so much energy. Also you better not sit on the same platform because your weight already compresses the tennis balls.
I'm thinking of doing this but I'll be on the ground floor, so I'm more worried about the upstairs neighbours feeling the vibrations.
Thanks for the video, was helpful and straight to the point. Just one quick question, is the flooring in your building made of wood or concrete? Because I believe that also makes a big difference in the results.
Thanks Stephen. My building has a concrete base, with wood on top. Hope it helps.
@@40somethingdrummer26- For clarification; the floor you are playing on is concrete?
Luckily my apartment is more like a townhouse there’s no one above or below but I need to stop the thump from going sideways
Does drum sound travel up ? Did your neighbors above complain ?
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I think more tennis balls would had improve the results! Many people uses like 24 balls. Maybe you should try this later!