I bought a used c350e off the strength of this video. I can honestly say I am not disappointed at all, still smiling after 7 months of ownership. The range is quite different from winter to summer due to heating etc. I prob get 9 miles fully electric. Typical mpg works to be 45-50 normal city driving. A lot more of you drive like miss daisy. Thanks for the great video!
Hi there, I'm keen to buy a c350e like this. Are you still happy with yours? Any major issues? Lots of bad reviews online, hence why my question. Cheers
@@rodmendes92 nope mines been fine, I’ve had it from 60k to 75k miles so far. Battery Range differs based on weather a lot. Only thing it’s missing is CarPlay - I believe the 2016+ can have this enabled. Probably get 40mpg on motorway real world.
Hi! I just got a c350e 2016 is a beautifull car my only issue is it shows 13 miles in a fully charged battery any advice would be very much appriciated
@@joana3860 13 miles is probably about the maximum you will get - maybe a bit more with the fans/ac off. It tends to go a bit further if you warm the car up on E save mode before switching to E mode.
*Sneak predict June/July 2020 and full EV 'A' & 'B' Class (Dortmund December 2016) - can't say more. - well ok maybe I was pestering Mercedes regarding this and unable to get any definite figures, but have found the 'A' Class linked with 1332cc Petrol engine released in Germany costs €4500 More, for me a no go.*
@@NikkiSabet-uc4qu unfortunately no. I ended up getting an A6 Bi-tdi 2018. Beast of a car and bigger but I would’ve preferred the Mercedes. Not really a huge fan of Audi after having it.
Love the lack of 'journalese'. Humorous, conversational, informative. Just hired one in France as a replacement for an Alfa Giulia that died on me. I needed to watch a video on how to drive the thing after I had to ask passing rep. In car park how to start it. Thanks
In Brazil, the mileage consumption is measured in Km/l. We also have ethanol and petrol available in every gas station, but almost 100% of the cars sold new, are "flex" (can use both in any proportion) and because this, they consume more than an exclusive one.
@@wwecallofduty123 Electric cars tend to be taller and fatter for some reason. is perhaps due to the fact that a large battery is required under the floor. then is the air resistance extra important on electric cars also to maximize the range?
*Beautiful Car Phill, and Robert even took the trouble to wear a matching shirt, (**8:15**) however not up to date but on my recently acquired W247 'B200 CDi AMG Premium Pack' with augmented reality Sat-Nav achieved (Cold Engine Start) - 76.3 MPG on a 90 Mile Mixed road trip recently, suspect could get this to over 80 mpg in Summer Time, and exceeds Euro 6 Emissions tests with extremely low CO² levels. I would be happy to 'lend' him my car for a review anytime, and he would be gobsmacked with numerous innovations that are now integral in this car. ECO Mode is the key in that (8 Speed Gearbox) when lifting throttle car disengages gears and 'freewheels' - it's incredible how far you can travel on free Kinetic Energy if anticipating road ahead.*
km/l are a step in the right direction from mpg, but both of them seem weird to me. Usually you know how far you want to drive and want to know how much fuel you need for that. With l/100km it's easy. How far do I get with the fuel I have in the tank isn't really a question you ask yourself often, unless you are on the run ;) .
mullahviking, I doubt that you actually meant 1 mile=10km, but that's the way I read your comment. One mile is about 1.61 km. The beginning of your comment is confusing, too.
My apologies. I wasn't familiar with the term mil being used to mean 10 km. In the U.S. we commonly use the measurement mil to denote thickness of 0.001 (or 1/1000) inch, and in some professions meaning a certain tiny angle, though there are several different definitions, one of which is 1/6400 of a degree. Thanks for telling me another meaning. For myself, I'm beginning to use watt hours per mile or, alternatively, miles per kWh..
Agree, to me a car should be set up without too many parts and systems that must work together. Less problems and things to go wrong. Skip the ICE engine, put a bigger battery and make it 100% electric.
i will say this; normally i'm sort of ho hum on mercedes, but their interiors from the latest C and E classes have been absolutely drop dead gorgeous. They could sell their entire lineup on interior styling alone (exterior styling from them is meh)
Agreed! The boot matters loads, especially with manufacturers typically cutting boot space for fitting batteries. I find that very important to compare since it gives us an indication of how serious a manufacturer wants the electric/electrified car to be as good as the comparable ICE model. And bonnet? No look under that either? C'mon ;-)
I think that it would be good to have segments in your reviews, e.g. Practicality, engine, battery, feeling. You can pretend that you are going grocery shopping or golfing or something else i.e. Put the car in a scenario.
So that only people getting the link may watch it, like those on patreon and such. Also easy to see how many views it get and from where. Later it will be put to published and everyone will be able to see it.
Which is... Really confusing, because I'm not a patreon supporter, but I got a android system notification for this video like 2-3 days ago, it shows up un my feed on the youtube app, but when I went looking for it on youtube on my desktop, I couldn't find it. Really weird...
Rob S hi, My workplace is just 2 miles from home so most of the time I don’t use petrol, occasionally travel long. On an average in getting 54mpg. If travelling long more often then you will only get 38mpg max. On single charge 12 miles, if very very careful max 14 miles.
Rob S haha, 134mpg is impossible, dont know why Mercedes advertise that unless your travelling short journeys and charging at work will get higher. If drive 10miles battery finishes, then you are drive with heavy battery pack, which will reduce economy. I thought I will get 100mpg when I was buying it. Don’t get me wrong the car is lovely no regrets buying it. Super comfortable. Comes with air suspension as standard. Glides on the road. Very powerful machine. 0-60 is 5.9 sec
I am fully aware how I am going to sound by saying this, but here it is. Notice how the auto lock feature when the car is over 5-10 km/h. It goes "CLICK" at 1:07, this could be made better. In an old Mercedes S320, the auto lock is damped, so it is soft and non-abrupt. (when I test the Genesis G80, this is also what I notice, an adrupt CLICK for the auto-lock)
Haptic feedback. Love that. My Smart has a "button" in the throttle that I love, I call it "the turbo button." It takes you from roughly 80% power to 100%. I hope they put this button, or the more sophisticated "haptic" control on my model 3...
Bobby, you broke my heart. My previous generation Merc diesel does 38 around town and 50 on motorway and I loved it until I watched your video "Electric cars are rubbish. Aren't they?" Now I just can't reconcile myself to an oil burning engine. When will Mercedes start selling an all-electric C-class??
Never, why would they? Buy TESLA its well just 20x times better, so you know, fully electric,the best car in the world, has autopilot, 17 INC LCD, 2.5s -100km, safest ever above 5 stars. And mercedes gets governments handouts for poisoning our air with carbon gas, so the profit dictates you will never get fully electric car. And hybrids is a lie they like instead of burning 10lyters/100km burn 9.5l/100 km but they have a small battery like your phone so they are considered "hybrid" lol
+MyGreeed ; The new E Class has drive pilot, the size of the interior screen and 0-100 time doesn't make a good car. Also, if you look at the recent IIHS crash tests and Euro NCAP Tesla performed badly. I don't know where you brainwashed Tesla zombies get your information from. It is not the safest car. Never was and never will be.
how about u hit a wall 100kmh with your coffin and when you will be introduced to 600kg engine breaking your rib-cage, then explain to me how the F*** a car without gas and and engine in the front can be less secure, you're the one whose brainwashed. NCAP tsla exceeded 5 stars and gotten the best ever rating wtf? www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-s-real-world-safety-rear-end-collision/ how about you try your luck vs a Truck?
MyGreeed Sure go to a Tesla site to read about a Tesla safety rating. Shame. Tests have already proven it is lacking in the safety front. If you think the engine intrudes into the passenger compartment then you, like many other brainwashed Tesla zombies, know absolutely nothing about how a car works to dissipate crash forces.
There does need to be a better method of gauging it for theon paper figures. I have heard many drivers are only getting 35/40mpg but I have a 19.5 mile commute and i am seeing the equivalent of just over 100mpg over my 5 months of ownership, but we are talking well over 100 charge cycles in there.
I think we have to accept that the only people who could be relied upon to give accurate fuel economy figures are the people whop drive them regularly. I'd love to do a test in a car but it's really hard. You need to drain the tank, add exactly one gallon and then see how far you get. Which is why I tried this in a lawn mower.
You also need to measure distance we something other than the cars odometer, which, due to variations in tyre diameter can be up to 5% out from the true dustance!
I've got one of these and on a 100 mile motorway drive (somewhere near the speed limit) I'll average around 50mpg if I start with a full battery. It's great for shorter trips as my commute is 12 miles so pure electric for most of my driving, but on longer runs it drops down a fair bit. In the Sport+ mode you can easily find yourself dipping below 30mpg though so I rarely switch from the default mode. I've never managed to see the 19 mile range either, it's usually 14 - 16 miles. There's more fuel use stats of mine here www.fuelly.com/car/mercedes-benz/c350e/2015/aesthete/392191
None of the car mags or fully charged have yet worked out actual fuel used and added total electricity taken from grid to work out true energy consumption for a PHEV vehicle. The ridiculous NEDC ignore energy taken to charge battery so you get stupidly high "mpg". The outlandish phib beloved of ecotricity gets 28 mpg real world petrol only use according to Auto Express but recent mags still go with NEDC nonsense.
It doesn't surprise me that you had such trouble getting Mercedes to cooperate. I recently arranged a test drive of the B Class EV. When we turned up at the dealership for the appointment we were told they had no car available because someone had phoned them at five a.m. that morning to buy it. No one bothered to call me to cancel. I'm still waiting for them to arrange another test drive.
A Hybrid that truly could do 50 Miles on an overnight charge would be a winner. Thanks for the review, I did think it was great. You don't buy a C class if trunk size is important for you anyway. Like here is my new BMW 3 series, let me show you the trunk!
8:37 I never understood why in europe fuel consumption is measured in L/100km. Here where I live (Brazil) fuel consumption is measured in km/L. It makes much more sense to know how many kilometers you can drive with one litre of fuel, because when you go to a gas station you buy litres and not kilometers.
L/100km is just fine Robert. Just for reference, my diesel E46 does around 8L/100Km. I have an heavy foot. I don't know what sensible driving is. Sorry green freeks who don't shower to save the rain forest, I'm not gonna live twice and I intend to squeeze every bit of enjoyment out of this life. Me and many of your viewers have no clue at all what it means when you say 99.9mpg. I know a mile is roughly 1.6km. A gallon... I'm a complete ignorant regarding that. Outside the UK, as far as I'm aware, only US uses gallons, and even there it's a different volume to the UK. Fully charged on the other hand is viewed all over the world, I hope. Sorry if it sounds like a rant, it isn't. I really enjoy viewing the show, it keeps people updated with the progress of, well, the future of our day to day.
I’m not sure if this car is for someone who drives once in a while because batteries? It makes sense for everyday drivers. Would like to see review on that
Robert, I'm not sure what the situation is with the recent Opel Ampera-E in England, as it may not be on sale there, but if it is I would love for you to do a review. You run a great channel; keep up the good work.
That's interesting that Phil has driven 1000 electric miles out of the total of 3000 driven. Is that electricity from plugging in and/or charging in hybrid mode?
I doubt it. Why did we adopt KWh for EV energy storage when the SI unit is the Joule, or in the case of traction batteries MJ. We start with a clean sheet and we can't even get that correct. Don't get me started on charging standards and associated plug/sockets. Someone once said (in another context) "the great thing about standards is that there are so many everyone can have one each". It was ever thus and likely always will be.
I know you said you wouldn't believe what Mercedes drivers tell you, but my C250d generally averages 50mpg. It's amazing what they get out of cars now with stop-start engines & such. Not to denigrate the C350e, I'd love one, but we do enough motorway runs that it sounds like we mightn't save enough - not as much as we'd save with a pure electric car with greater electric range.
This looks like a car , Huzza!! A full electric one would be ideal.. Phil gets an amazing amount of use out of the electric motor at 1k miles out of 3 k . can you tell me if the motor is brushless? Shame on Mercedes not lending one .. I hope they , and other electric vehicle manufacturers realise the potential sales from a simple week long loan . All the best with your endeavours.
My next car was gonna be a C350 CDI and I was planning on mapping it, so it makes 300+ horsepower. Sadly because of all the dieselgate nonsense and the impending diesel bans... I have to buy something else. And since I don't have enough money to buy and run an AMG, I'll just have to settle for a hybrid. Still a great car tho... Extremely comfortable, looks brilliant, drives brilliant and if you leave it in Individual mode, you have more control over the hybrid system. Cause if you leave it normal (hybrid) mode, the engine turns on and off every 5 seconds and I doubt that's good for the starter and the engine temperature. And the best part, those glorious 600Nm... When I put my foot down, the C350e will have the same punch as it's evil V6 diesel brother. And in Germany, you get free charging points, you can use bus lanes and you get very low taxes and low insurance premiums, cause nobody hoons a hybrid, or electric car. I could also get a few extra horsepowers with a remap on a C350e... I won't buy it to pretend to save the world. I'm gonna buy it as an alternative to a quick and fun diesel car. I welcome fun and quick hybrids...
In your current episode, he remarked that he had never driven a Marchetti's vehicle, does that mean that you never trove one of the smart E-drive vehicles which are common, in the European market?
For km/l we use a normal (1.4i) car would do 10km/1l - 15km/1L , we would turn that around and say it would do 1 on 10, 1 on 15 (1:10-1:15) Like you would say about the oil-gas mixture for 2-takt motor for mopets outboard motors. Since you have to explain the liters wich is automatically km's. YOu could also say " it does 1 on 10-15k" k stands for km's. understandable since your talking about distance.
Robert, If you need to test the B Class Electric I own one and relatively close to you being in the West Midlands. I also ride an electric unicycle which is fun!.
What's the charging rate? I stopped at a motorway services once. Last year one of these cars just beat me to the electric pump. Thank God the AC side was broken, so he drove off. Parked next to one charging at an ordinary post last month, it didn't seem like a fast charge.
Rob, I am wary of technology that utilises Sat Nav input to make driving suggestions since my Sat Nav thingy tried to get me to turn right through a 1.5M concrete barrier across the 4 lanes of oncoming traffic then drop 15M onto the road beneath, that it wanted to use as the fastest route to my destination. Cheers Eric
However, there are tests regarding other car brands that show that a diesel can consume less fuel than a hybrid car especially if you drive long distances on the highway
As i'm sure you are aware Robert, "Extra Urban" refers to a specific portion on the legally mandated European Drive cycle, over which emissions and consumption are measured. The "Extra Urban" portion is the higher average speed section at the of the test (the "urban" bit is the 3 repeats of 3 "hills" at the start of the test, which are very low speed and mean't to represent driving in town. Wikipedia tell all here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_European_Driving_Cycle
I bought a used c350e off the strength of this video. I can honestly say I am not disappointed at all, still smiling after 7 months of ownership. The range is quite different from winter to summer due to heating etc. I prob get 9 miles fully electric. Typical mpg works to be 45-50 normal city driving. A lot more of you drive like miss daisy.
Thanks for the great video!
Hi there, I'm keen to buy a c350e like this. Are you still happy with yours? Any major issues? Lots of bad reviews online, hence why my question. Cheers
@@rodmendes92 nope mines been fine, I’ve had it from 60k to 75k miles so far. Battery Range differs based on weather a lot. Only thing it’s missing is CarPlay - I believe the 2016+ can have this enabled. Probably get 40mpg on motorway real world.
Hi! I just got a c350e 2016 is a beautifull car my only issue is it shows 13 miles in a fully charged battery any advice would be very much appriciated
@@joana3860 13 miles is probably about the maximum you will get - maybe a bit more with the fans/ac off. It tends to go a bit further if you warm the car up on E save mode before switching to E mode.
I hope one day they increase 9 miles to 50 miles.
Thanks Phil.
What a lovely car. I'd love to see a fully electric A class.
Would you settle for a B class? :) They have them on the west side of the big pond, the B250e.
and it's powered by Tesla
*Sneak predict June/July 2020 and full EV 'A' & 'B' Class (Dortmund December 2016) - can't say more. - well ok maybe I was pestering Mercedes regarding this and unable to get any definite figures, but have found the 'A' Class linked with 1332cc Petrol engine released in Germany costs €4500 More, for me a no go.*
Thanks Phill!
loving the graphics for the stats. very clean look and some brilliant production on the video
Cool car , did really like the review. Well done to Phill to let his beautiful car been shown to us 👍
Love the new info animations!
What the heck happened at the end?
I was quite enjoying this and expecting a conclusion but the review cuts off, mid-sentence. 😳
love the colour!
Mercedes
"When you get it right in a car, this is what it should look like."
it would be great to test range by putting exactly 1 gallon of fuel and see how many miles you get
This video was one of the elements I considered when I ordered a 350e I will be getting end of next month.
VincentandCoBxl how is it so far? Thinking about getting one
@@pedrodacosta1734did you get one?
@@NikkiSabet-uc4qu unfortunately no. I ended up getting an A6 Bi-tdi 2018. Beast of a car and bigger but I would’ve preferred the Mercedes. Not really a huge fan of Audi after having it.
I don't know why, but I expected the car to be more expensive.
Why is the video unlisted by the way?
Is it ironic that the advert before this video was for BMW?
ObiWanKeighobi mine was ICE tea. Adverts are choosen for you not to the movie what you are going to watch.
I like that you included the facts. 9:15
Very nice..but battery should be maybe little bigger but then it would be more expensive and heavier so maybe they got it right for hybrid
dzonikg I would say Mercedes only builds hybrid because they have to thank to the german laws...
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maybe ..but they will must go full electric in few years
***** Thats true
Love the lack of 'journalese'. Humorous, conversational, informative. Just hired one in France as a replacement for an Alfa Giulia that died on me. I needed to watch a video on how to drive the thing after I had to ask passing rep. In car park how to start it. Thanks
i hate to say this but its a compliment.....its like my father reviewing a car :)
Great video. Patreon looks like it has made quite a difference to your production quality.
In Brazil, the mileage consumption is measured in Km/l. We also have ethanol and petrol available in every gas station, but almost 100% of the cars sold new, are "flex" (can use both in any proportion) and because this, they consume more than an exclusive one.
they should make a 50 mile version
*Battery cost and additional weight judged to high as most (85%) of journeys are less than 30 Miles.*
They should make a fully electric one I would buy that
@@wwecallofduty123 Electric cars tend to be taller and fatter for some reason. is perhaps due to the fact that a large battery is required under the floor. then is the air resistance extra important on electric cars also to maximize the range?
Cool review! It would be cool to see how the plug-in bits work next time :)
That's a really nice interior.
*Beautiful Car Phill, and Robert even took the trouble to wear a matching shirt, (**8:15**) however not up to date but on my recently acquired W247 'B200 CDi AMG Premium Pack' with augmented reality Sat-Nav achieved (Cold Engine Start) - 76.3 MPG on a 90 Mile Mixed road trip recently, suspect could get this to over 80 mpg in Summer Time, and exceeds Euro 6 Emissions tests with extremely low CO² levels. I would be happy to 'lend' him my car for a review anytime, and he would be gobsmacked with numerous innovations that are now integral in this car. ECO Mode is the key in that (8 Speed Gearbox) when lifting throttle car disengages gears and 'freewheels' - it's incredible how far you can travel on free Kinetic Energy if anticipating road ahead.*
Great content! You’re relatable! Loved the review
I love the looks of the Mercedes inside and out.
Good episode Rob, check you out with all your fancy camera angles, some great shots there!
Keep it up
Nice editing and colors :)
Cheers Phil! For making this episode possible.
Great job on the videography on this episode.
Very good car review. This is a great channel, keep it up!
Nice work with the units, Mr. Llewellyn!
A compliment to Mark Taylor-Hankins: Great Videography again!!
The quality of your videos whilst shot in the cabin is really spectacular. May I ask what camera you use?
Hi. We use a combination of a Panasonic GH4 & GoPro Hero 4 Black. Thanks for the positive comment, much appreciated.
great car.....now go full electric and I am in !!
km/l are a step in the right direction from mpg, but both of them seem weird to me. Usually you know how far you want to drive and want to know how much fuel you need for that. With l/100km it's easy. How far do I get with the fuel I have in the tank isn't really a question you ask yourself often, unless you are on the run ;) .
10KM per liter is my advice that is what we use in norway. or (mil per liter) 1mil=10km,
mullahviking, I doubt that you actually meant 1 mile=10km, but that's the way I read your comment. One mile is about 1.61 km. The beginning of your comment is confusing, too.
Dave Riley In norway Mil is another term for 10KM not to be confused with mile.
My apologies. I wasn't familiar with the term mil being used to mean 10 km. In the U.S. we commonly use the measurement mil to denote thickness of 0.001 (or 1/1000) inch, and in some professions meaning a certain tiny angle, though there are several different definitions, one of which is 1/6400 of a degree. Thanks for telling me another meaning. For myself, I'm beginning to use watt hours per mile or, alternatively, miles per kWh..
everyone in america is on the run all the time
Great preview and test drive. I affirm there will be a 100% electric Mercedes sedan in the very near future.
beautiful car+tech
Love hybrids, best of both worlds :)
and the worst from both worlds
I am very happy with mine and am aiming for full EV next, it's a good stepping stone.
True, and more importantly ;)
Why pay the cost of an EV while still paying maintenance of a petrol?
Agree, to me a car should be set up without too many parts and systems that must work together. Less problems and things to go wrong. Skip the ICE engine, put a bigger battery and make it 100% electric.
Because most electric cars have trash range.
i will say this;
normally i'm sort of ho hum on mercedes, but their interiors from the latest C and E classes have been absolutely drop dead gorgeous. They could sell their entire lineup on interior styling alone (exterior styling from them is meh)
Did you really do a review without showing the trunk and how the battery pack affects the practicality of the car?
Yes, clearly I did. And clearly I failed.
Agreed! The boot matters loads, especially with manufacturers typically cutting boot space for fitting batteries. I find that very important to compare since it gives us an indication of how serious a manufacturer wants the electric/electrified car to be as good as the comparable ICE model.
And bonnet? No look under that either? C'mon ;-)
But just look at that fancy hand-stitched automated headrest! :)
335ltr of cargo, that's less than a eGolf
I think that it would be good to have segments in your reviews, e.g. Practicality, engine, battery, feeling. You can pretend that you are going grocery shopping or golfing or something else i.e. Put the car in a scenario.
Love the color 😍
Why is the video marked as "HIDDEN" ? (Not public)
So that only people getting the link may watch it, like those on patreon and such. Also easy to see how many views it get and from where. Later it will be put to published and everyone will be able to see it.
Which is... Really confusing, because I'm not a patreon supporter, but I got a android system notification for this video like 2-3 days ago, it shows up un my feed on the youtube app, but when I went looking for it on youtube on my desktop, I couldn't find it.
Really weird...
I'm glad this isn't all electric. nothing could be more dull. nice car
Great car. I have got one. You never get 20 miles on electric mode only max 14miles. However it’s very powerful for overtaking!!
Rob S hi, My workplace is just 2 miles from home so most of the time I don’t use petrol, occasionally travel long. On an average in getting 54mpg. If travelling long more often then you will only get 38mpg max. On single charge 12 miles, if very very careful max 14 miles.
Rob S haha, 134mpg is impossible, dont know why Mercedes advertise that unless your travelling short journeys and charging at work will get higher. If drive 10miles battery finishes, then you are drive with heavy battery pack, which will reduce economy.
I thought I will get 100mpg when I was buying it. Don’t get me wrong the car is lovely no regrets buying it. Super comfortable. Comes with air suspension as standard. Glides on the road. Very powerful machine. 0-60 is 5.9 sec
I am fully aware how I am going to sound by saying this, but here it is. Notice how the auto lock feature when the car is over 5-10 km/h. It goes "CLICK" at 1:07, this could be made better. In an old Mercedes S320, the auto lock is damped, so it is soft and non-abrupt. (when I test the Genesis G80, this is also what I notice, an adrupt CLICK for the auto-lock)
Haptic feedback. Love that. My Smart has a "button" in the throttle that I love, I call it "the turbo button."
It takes you from roughly 80% power to 100%.
I hope they put this button, or the more sophisticated "haptic" control on my model 3...
Thanks to Phil!
I love the way you make this video! It's beautiful! Where did you learn it?
Geez Robert! You get all the good jobs don't you? 😉😀
Agree about buttons! Analogue watches still popular!
Phil you rock! :)
your channel is awesome
liters per kilometer not kilometers per liter and problem is solved. mpg doesn't mean much to me, so just sayin, but do it way you like it
For the fans of metric measurement:
The mentioned long term tested 65 mpg are equal to 3,61 l/100km.
Thats quite awesome and better than a prius.
Imposible
Bobby, you broke my heart. My previous generation Merc diesel does 38 around town and 50 on motorway and I loved it until I watched your video "Electric cars are rubbish. Aren't they?" Now I just can't reconcile myself to an oil burning engine. When will Mercedes start selling an all-electric C-class??
Very soon. We've reveiwed another Merc, coming soon.
Never, why would they? Buy TESLA its well just 20x times better, so you know, fully electric,the best car in the world, has autopilot, 17 INC LCD, 2.5s -100km, safest ever above 5 stars. And mercedes gets governments handouts for poisoning our air with carbon gas, so the profit dictates you will never get fully electric car. And hybrids is a lie they like instead of burning 10lyters/100km burn 9.5l/100 km but they have a small battery like your phone so they are considered "hybrid" lol
+MyGreeed ; The new E Class has drive pilot, the size of the interior screen and 0-100 time doesn't make a good car. Also, if you look at the recent IIHS crash tests and Euro NCAP Tesla performed badly. I don't know where you brainwashed Tesla zombies get your information from. It is not the safest car. Never was and never will be.
how about u hit a wall 100kmh with your coffin and when you will be introduced to 600kg engine breaking your rib-cage, then explain to me how the F*** a car without gas and and engine in the front can be less secure, you're the one whose brainwashed. NCAP tsla exceeded 5 stars and gotten the best ever rating wtf?
www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-s-real-world-safety-rear-end-collision/ how about you try your luck vs a Truck?
MyGreeed Sure go to a Tesla site to read about a Tesla safety rating. Shame. Tests have already proven it is lacking in the safety front. If you think the engine intrudes into the passenger compartment then you, like many other brainwashed Tesla zombies, know absolutely nothing about how a car works to dissipate crash forces.
9:30 Why did it suddenly end?
My Toyota Aygo does around 20 km/l. We bought a 2011 Prius this week and I look forward to seeing its km/l!
The fuel economy ratings for this thing are all over the place. Car and Driver says 35/40mpg, Top Gear and autocar say 134.5mpg.
There does need to be a better method of gauging it for theon paper figures. I have heard many drivers are only getting 35/40mpg but I have a 19.5 mile commute and i am seeing the equivalent of just over 100mpg over my 5 months of ownership, but we are talking well over 100 charge cycles in there.
I think we have to accept that the only people who could be relied upon to give accurate fuel economy figures are the people whop drive them regularly. I'd love to do a test in a car but it's really hard. You need to drain the tank, add exactly one gallon and then see how far you get.
Which is why I tried this in a lawn mower.
You also need to measure distance we something other than the cars odometer, which, due to variations in tyre diameter can be up to 5% out from the true dustance!
I've got one of these and on a 100 mile motorway drive (somewhere near the speed limit) I'll average around 50mpg if I start with a full battery. It's great for shorter trips as my commute is 12 miles so pure electric for most of my driving, but on longer runs it drops down a fair bit. In the Sport+ mode you can easily find yourself dipping below 30mpg though so I rarely switch from the default mode. I've never managed to see the 19 mile range either, it's usually 14 - 16 miles. There's more fuel use stats of mine here www.fuelly.com/car/mercedes-benz/c350e/2015/aesthete/392191
None of the car mags or fully charged have yet worked out actual fuel used and added total electricity taken from grid to work out true energy consumption for a PHEV vehicle. The ridiculous NEDC ignore energy taken to charge battery so you get stupidly high "mpg". The outlandish phib beloved of ecotricity gets 28 mpg real world petrol only use according to Auto Express but recent mags still go with NEDC nonsense.
thanks Phil 👍
It doesn't surprise me that you had such trouble getting Mercedes to cooperate. I recently arranged a test drive of the B Class EV. When we turned up at the dealership for the appointment we were told they had no car available because someone had phoned them at five a.m. that morning to buy it. No one bothered to call me to cancel. I'm still waiting for them to arrange another test drive.
Great video. Combined torque is 600nM though. Various websites have it as 300nM which is the ICE only figure.
Beautiful car.
A Hybrid that truly could do 50 Miles on an overnight charge would be a winner. Thanks for the review, I did think it was great. You don't buy a C class if trunk size is important for you anyway. Like here is my new BMW 3 series, let me show you the trunk!
Well made video!
Nicely done!!!
Thanks, enjoyed the review ;0)
We do it the other way in full metric land. Liter per 100km. ;)
8:37 I never understood why in europe fuel consumption is measured in L/100km. Here where I live (Brazil) fuel consumption is measured in km/L. It makes much more sense to know how many kilometers you can drive with one litre of fuel, because when you go to a gas station you buy litres and not kilometers.
Now Top Gear's crap, this is the best car show to watch. (At least neck and neck with Roadkill.)
The production of your videos is first class - well done guys
Just popped my patronage-cherry with you too :)
L/100km is just fine Robert.
Just for reference, my diesel E46 does around 8L/100Km. I have an heavy foot. I don't know what sensible driving is. Sorry green freeks who don't shower to save the rain forest, I'm not gonna live twice and I intend to squeeze every bit of enjoyment out of this life.
Me and many of your viewers have no clue at all what it means when you say 99.9mpg. I know a mile is roughly 1.6km. A gallon... I'm a complete ignorant regarding that. Outside the UK, as far as I'm aware, only US uses gallons, and even there it's a different volume to the UK. Fully charged on the other hand is viewed all over the world, I hope.
Sorry if it sounds like a rant, it isn't. I really enjoy viewing the show, it keeps people updated with the progress of, well, the future of our day to day.
I’m not sure if this car is for someone who drives once in a while because batteries? It makes sense for everyday drivers. Would like to see review on that
Robert, I'm not sure what the situation is with the recent Opel Ampera-E in England, as it may not be on sale there, but if it is I would love for you to do a review. You run a great channel; keep up the good work.
That's interesting that Phil has driven 1000 electric miles out of the total of 3000 driven. Is that electricity from plugging in and/or charging in hybrid mode?
The conversion in my head drives me crazy.. Maybe someday the world can agree on units of measurement on everything.
I doubt it. Why did we adopt KWh for EV energy storage when the SI unit is the Joule, or in the case of traction batteries MJ. We start with a clean sheet and we can't even get that correct. Don't get me started on charging standards and associated plug/sockets. Someone once said (in another context) "the great thing about standards is that there are so many everyone can have one each". It was ever thus and likely always will be.
this was a good watch
I know you said you wouldn't believe what Mercedes drivers tell you, but my C250d generally averages 50mpg. It's amazing what they get out of cars now with stop-start engines & such. Not to denigrate the C350e, I'd love one, but we do enough motorway runs that it sounds like we mightn't save enough - not as much as we'd save with a pure electric car with greater electric range.
Stunning..
Listen up Mercedes pr team, this guy is the top gear meets electric cars minus harrasment charges. He ought to be on your priority inbox
This looks like a car , Huzza!! A full electric one would be ideal.. Phil gets an amazing amount of use out of the electric motor at 1k miles out of 3 k . can you tell me if the motor is brushless?
Shame on Mercedes not lending one .. I hope they , and other electric vehicle manufacturers realise the potential sales from a simple week long loan . All the best with your endeavours.
Appreciate the km/l very much, although we would prefer how many liters are being used per 100km, since this is the official measurement, l/100km.
Robert, you mentioned a lease of around £250 per month. Where can I find more details on this?
I like your new glasses Bob.
Rob
Is kryten needing a new battery?
As his casing seems to be swelling badly :)
My next car was gonna be a C350 CDI and I was planning on mapping it, so it makes 300+ horsepower. Sadly because of all the dieselgate nonsense and the impending diesel bans... I have to buy something else. And since I don't have enough money to buy and run an AMG, I'll just have to settle for a hybrid. Still a great car tho... Extremely comfortable, looks brilliant, drives brilliant and if you leave it in Individual mode, you have more control over the hybrid system. Cause if you leave it normal (hybrid) mode, the engine turns on and off every 5 seconds and I doubt that's good for the starter and the engine temperature. And the best part, those glorious 600Nm... When I put my foot down, the C350e will have the same punch as it's evil V6 diesel brother. And in Germany, you get free charging points, you can use bus lanes and you get very low taxes and low insurance premiums, cause nobody hoons a hybrid, or electric car. I could also get a few extra horsepowers with a remap on a C350e... I won't buy it to pretend to save the world. I'm gonna buy it as an alternative to a quick and fun diesel car. I welcome fun and quick hybrids...
What about the B-Class electric drive?
In your current episode, he remarked that he had never driven a Marchetti's vehicle, does that mean that you never trove one of the smart E-drive vehicles which are common, in the European market?
From a UK perspective. Since we do not use kilometres for distance or gallons for volume, miles per litre makes more sense. This is 13.4mpl
OK. l/62mile then
For km/l we use a normal (1.4i) car would do 10km/1l - 15km/1L , we would turn that around and say it would do 1 on 10, 1 on 15 (1:10-1:15) Like you would say about the oil-gas mixture for 2-takt motor for mopets outboard motors. Since you have to explain the liters wich is automatically km's. YOu could also say " it does 1 on 10-15k" k stands for km's. understandable since your talking about distance.
Robert, If you need to test the B Class Electric I own one and relatively close to you being in the West Midlands. I also ride an electric unicycle which is fun!.
how did you like it compared to the BMW 330e?
Both crap hybrids
What's the charging rate? I stopped at a motorway services once. Last year one of these cars just beat me to the electric pump. Thank God the AC side was broken, so he drove off. Parked next to one charging at an ordinary post last month, it didn't seem like a fast charge.
Rob,
I am wary of technology that utilises Sat Nav input to make driving suggestions since my Sat Nav thingy tried to get me to turn right through a 1.5M concrete barrier across the 4 lanes of oncoming traffic then drop 15M onto the road beneath, that it wanted to use as the fastest route to my destination.
Cheers Eric
i mainly save the battery for sport mode to get those extra 340nm
8:02 1mpg is 0.4 kmpl , so 99 mpg is about 42 kmpl
its does 0-60 in 5.9 secs now that is pretty fucking cool
Oooh, the future. I'm not keen on the styling. Nice videography.
Phil you Legend!
Please review the Hyundai Ioniq Hybrid!
MichaelKingsfordGray The Guy he lended this car from!
'borrowed' is the word you are looking for.
I am good thanks
However, there are tests regarding other car brands that show that a diesel can consume less fuel than a hybrid car especially if you drive long distances on the highway
As i'm sure you are aware Robert, "Extra Urban" refers to a specific portion on the legally mandated European Drive cycle, over which emissions and consumption are measured. The "Extra Urban" portion is the higher average speed section at the of the test (the "urban" bit is the 3 repeats of 3 "hills" at the start of the test, which are very low speed and mean't to represent driving in town.
Wikipedia tell all here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_European_Driving_Cycle