Someone,(on one of those talking heads programs),theorised that americans are too competitive to understand parlour games,(which a lot of panel shows are based on),they don’t get that winning or losing is irrelevant. I suggest listening to “I’m sorry I haven’t a clue”,self described antidote to panel games,which has been on the radio since the early 70’s and is incredibly silly and clever at the same time.
It's so rare to see someone talking about I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue! I still remember listening to the broadcast when Rob Brydon was given Tom Jones Delilah to sing on Pick Up Song, and a legend was born as we heard that Rob had PIPES! I still miss Humph
the popularity of these shows, it's the wit. we like wit. to us its a martial art, if someone were to take the piss out of you -in a really good and inventive way? Well, you'd salute them for it
Stephen Fry discussed “the difference” between British (UK) comedy and USA and the main point is that “we” can quite easily laugh at ourselves, if we are being made fun of as there is no “you can’t make a fool of me, I’m a tv/film star” attitude. Those tv/film star who make guest appearances on panel shows never seem to take it seriously - they understand that the chances of them being ridiculed or made to look like a twit by the other “contestants” are high - it’s all part of the show! Stephen Fry said that USA “celebrities” do find it hard to step back from the persona they have created, which makes it difficult for them to enjoy the comedy if they have to continue that image, whereas respected actors like Sir Ian McKellen, Dame Judi Dench and Sir Michael Caine for example revel in the banter and being made to look silly. He said that when speaking to his USA friends, they just could not comprehend how - when watching “our” kind of comedy - that prior to the recording of such shows, the celeb panellists are pleasant and friendly to each other but as soon as the recording starts, they seem to love making comedic abuse to each other - they were amazed at rude the banter was but was the audience considered it funny and acceptable! That’s just how we roll? 😂😂
That seems strange to me cos I have seen quite a few comedy roasts on RUclips and it involved a lot of American celebrities- frank sinatra dean martin etc
@@tucoramirez3333 Roasts are only superficially the same, they're more about bullying someone than being funny, and the subject enduring it to "prove" they're a good sport. It's still all about winning, either by breaking someone or by proving "you can take it". The subject takes it seriously because the entire point of the thing is all about them, whereas a panel show people laugh the jokes at their expense off because the show isn't really about them, they're just fuel for the comedy. One is all about ego and the other is about stepping away from your ego.
@@tucoramirez3333 Well, I guess that's what a roast is supposed to be, I've just never had the good fortune to see one that seemed genuine rather than someone being put through a right of passage like hazing.
It was explained from the very start, it wasn't a secret. Unless you mean how many points, that wasn't stated to be fair but the general basis of how it's scored was. Any obviously wrong answers that sets the klaxon off loses points. Anything at all funny, interesting, or the correct answer gets you points. The funny or interesting doesn't have to be on topic.
I thought this was going to be a typical reaction video (There are so many on here) but as usual you turned it into something unique. Judging by the clip you played of the USA version it seems to be very much a competition from the panels to see who can get the most attention. Whereas the UK version seems more a bunch of mates having a fun game whist taking the piss out of each other and Rob Brydon is very much part of that! Have a great week x
In the UK version there are genuinely quirky people, comedians and some straight laced people but they all relax and let their guard down and then there's the chemistry between Lee, David and Rob
Radio 4 comedy panel games are the best. Some of the things they get away with broadcasting are incredible, especially at the time of day they’re on. I’m Sorry I Haven’t a Clue was is legendary.
@@DanFre40 I still think the best joke Jack has ever said on ISIHAC is when describing the life of Marcel Marceau he said he died of gesticullar cancer. Brilliant.
I think the main issue with US attempts at panel shows is American comedians and other people in entertainment are all about being big bold personalities and getting everything hyped and thay just doesn't suit the format which is centred around mutual mockery and silliness. Other issue is people in the US tend to be less self-deprecating which is a big part of the banter.
Yeah I’ve met some Americans and honestly, the ones I’ve met so use different words at times than we do, and they can seem a bit extra, a bit more expressive about things in general. But just like us, everyone will find different things funny. They didn’t have any problem understanding my humour and I understood theirs. So really there is funny and unfunny stuff in both American and British Comedy
There are some great panel shows, Mock the Week, Have I got News For You, QI, just to name a few. But the problem as far as I can see it, is that you'd never get them made the same way in the US. US TV has such tight lines that they have to stick to, or the morality police will go for them, whereas in the UK we tend to more relaxed on things, and a lot of shows push things to the very edge of what they can get away with. Take "Have I got News For You" some of the front row is made up of lawyers to make sure they don't go to far on what is said. Oh!! if you ever get the chance look up the old versions of Never mind the Buzzcocks, which is now been rebooted, with Greg Davis as the host, which is also very good.
It's funny because while I see what you're saying about the quote-unquote morality police.... the example lie that Alanna featured from the US episode here was so disgusting it made me wonder where on earth their moral censors were at the time?!?! I can only imagine the British production team looking at that prospective lie and giving a solid blow-by-blow breakdown to the guest in question on why that lie won't fly - it's just revolting. So sometimes in America it seems almost like there's a twisted "immorality police" if you will, that insists on forcing these gross and pointless "anti-jokes" that totally undermine the intended emphasis of the show. And this seems to be a big battle within America, because there's both a morality police AND an immorality police that fight over everything, and many things beyond good television get ruined in the crossfire.
@@lpsp442 I agree. I think in the UK the celebrities live far more normal lives and so they have things to lie/be truthful about. I thought one of the telling things on the USA versions wiki page was the number of writers. I checked the UK version and there were none. That may reflect the quality of the panelists but also the different approach between the 2 countries.
I grew up in Canada watching Front Page Challenge which was a hugely popular panel show about the news. I was actually on the Reach For The Top team for my school. But those are about the only panel shows I can remember in Canada. I love watching Would I Lie To You though. Kevin bridges buying a horse (accidentally) was my favorite episode.
I agree with you about Bob, as mentionrd below, anything with Sean Lock (rip) in 8 out of 10 cats do Countdown, but surely especially the 2 episodes of carrot in a box
Shaun Lock's seal clubbing, challenging wank and 'greatest achievement' - all in one show. That and both carrots in a box raised him to Bob Mortimer levels.
Waaaay back in the 1970s there was a show called Call My Bluff, also based on 2 teams of 3, but instead of stories the questions were 3 definitions of unusual words. One of the regulars was Alan Coren, father of Giles and Victoria (David Mitchell's father in law). By the way I enjoyed the edit of your F bomb - freeze the video but not the audio hahahahaha! Thumbsup++
Whose line is it anyway is the best. In the UK we ended up with Ryan Stiles, Greg Proops both American and Colin Mochrie a Canadian who I’m guess must be a national treasure to Canadians.
Mike McShane too in the early days, along with Wayne Brady later on and many others. The UK show still holds up today, a lot of it is available on YT and still gets a watch from me.
I used to live in the states. Loved my years there and adore the friends I made. However, regarding TV... my bugbear about the import and export issue is that we buy successful US TV shows for broadcast in the UK. Eg: Golden Girls, Starsky & Hutch, Cheers, Frasier, Cagney & Lacey, Roseanne, Taxi, Friends, Kojak, Happy Days, Will & Grace, ER, Greys Anatomy... I could go on forever. (This, I think, also plays into why we're so much more aware of their culture than they are of ours). But... America, for the most part, REMAKES successful British shows and, other than the Office, they mostly fail. There's an arrogance about that, as if our TV isn't good enough as is, and Americanising it will make it somehow better. You'd think by now, after so many fails, they'd just buy them and show them in their OG state. 🤷🏼♀️
@AdventuresAndNaps American here, I love British comedy. First fell in love with it when I stumbled across The Vicar of Dibley. Now thanks to RUclips i can watch these shows. I love The Taskmaster. You should do 8 out of 10 Cats
John Simm was, of course, The Master but just before that he played DCI Sam Tyler in a series called Life on Mars which was actually the first thing I remember him from.
I remember the bit about Bob's owl, and I know that the video you watched was cut. The biggest argument was when Bob said it was very sick and couldn't fly, David asked "And it still escaped?" which made it 100% a lie to me.
As a UK fan, the recent 10+ year run of Whose Line US is now my favourite which I rewatch a lot more than the 00s series. Aisha Tyler was such a fantastic addition as presenter and the new regular guests were all great as well as the original guests who returned. The humour is pretty much the same slapstick, innuendo laden stuff from its previous two versions, but right up to date in regards to trends and satire. It’s exactly what you loved in the 00s but just with more recent references.
When Whose Line finished in the UK, I thought That was that, but the US version is just so hilarious. The 2 main (UK) originals with Ryan, Colin and occasionally Greg took it to the USA, and I guess it's quite "niche", but, it's probably the funniest US "panel" show that I've watched. The show is comedy gold....
Completely agree regarding Bob Mortimer. What a talent! He, David Mitchell and Lee Mack have provided me with so many hilarious moments over the years. I wonder if they realise the impact on people across the other side of the world (Australia here) - raising spirits, bringing humour and joy to people. I hope they know how they are appreciated 👏 It's great that you're a reader - David Mitchell's book about the history of the British monarchy is not only educational. but I could actually hear his voice speaking inside my head as I read. He's a comic genius.
Very interesting, that last section! Hi from N Ireland. And yes, I've often made this observation about the distinct uniqueness of UK "panel show" comedy - and how legit god tier it is - vs the lack of it over there. I'm 39, and remember vividly watching the first series of "Have I Got News For You" in 1990, no IDEA wtf the politics was about, but laughing my head off at the shildish humour of Paul Merton, and indeed "Whose Line is it Anyway?", which ofc, was also largely accessible to kids.
I'll have to watch this later but just want to add that new Taskmaster is starting next week. Woo-hoo! The US managed to screw up their version of that too, which is quite an achievement. The NZ version (especially seasn 2) is well worth a look. 🙂
What makes UK panel shows so popular is the contestants' chemistry with each other, many of the UK's contestants have worked together on other projects because the UK's entertainment industry is a lot smaller than the US one, so you tend to see many of the same people on TV at the same time, so chemistry between contestants has already been established before the recording of the show even begins.
I prefer the reboot with Aisha Tyler hosting it. I always felt Drew Carey tried to make the show all about him rather than the performers and it came across as very forced. They quite often try to include a woman in the lineup, other than Aisha, but it rarely works. Josie Lawrence was pretty much a staple on the UK version and she was great.
The British version of this show is such a success because of the chemistry between and talent of Rob Brydon, David Mitchell and Lee Mack. They have distinctive and individual styles of humour. Their constant ribbing of each other adds another humorous element to the show. If you watch the first few seasons of the show you will see how it has evolved into the success it is today. Rob started off as a guest where his talent shone through. It was obvious then that he was the right man to take over as the chairman. I never tire of the show. You are right about Bob and his stories. They are so out there that they drive David crazy trying to decide truth or lie. Have you seen the one where Bob claims to do his own dentistry? That's a classic. 😂😂
That US version was...oh my days I don't even have the words! 😂 Hope you do more oanel shows, I grew uo with Have I Got News For You and then later, Mock The Week and also love 8 of 9 Cats so I'm hoping you have or do some more on English panel shows 🤞🏾 Another great vid, Alana. Loving your work
there was a pannel show called blankerty blank, when i was little, it was a national treasure. when i was little i liked one called never mind the buzzcocks a music one
18:35 I think that's done not only to get people into the atmosphere of the show, but to also get material for the editors. Sounds of crowds giving various reactions allow them to add them at other points to "boost" an audience reaction
Most baths in flats etc are fixed to the wall, so if you're 6'8" and sleeping in one, you'd have to sleep with your head at the tap and otherwise you'd have nowhere to hang your legs to fit into it at all.
I know it's months later, but... wow girl, you are getting some GOOD comments about this particular episode. I'm guessing (?) most of the comments are from Brits who are all old now (because of the comments about previous shows we used to have back in the day) lol.
And you've got to watch more WILTY, it's brilliant. There's an "Unseen bits" one where Sophie Herman flirts with David Mitchell, there's Kevin Bridges once accidentally bought a horse, Lee Mack's Wok Around the Clock and more. Obviously you've seen some but keep searching them out to react to.
Friends was filmed with a live audience and that made it good, although the Classic "Mash" had canned laughter which was removed when it first came to the UK
The laughing on friends is edited in. There’s plenty of videos on here where the laughter track has been removed, you can still here the audience laughing but it’s only really at bloopers not so much at the jokes in the show.
It is possibly the greatest panel show ever created on British TV, and certainly better than all others remaining. No politics, no whining, no virtue signalling, just performers doing what they do best. It is really a treat! It's a strange relic, like one of those ancient Egyptian Obelisks encountered in Rome, Paris or London, still there after all these years because nobody can think of anything better to replace it. Btw, on the radio check out "I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue" the self-styled "antidote to panel shows".
I’ve been to recordings of several UK panel shows, including live broadcasts like The Last Leg, and we don’t use canned laughter! We’d all cringe at canned laughter and a show that used it would be cancelled quickly!
I’m sure others comments have already said it but personally I think it’s because of the difference in culture between the UK and US. In the US you’re competing to be the biggest and loudest in the room compared to the UK where we don’t want to cause a fuss. We are not main characters and we don’t want to inconvenience others.
There were so many more would i lie to you clips that could have been used, surely it's worth another video. Especially with the stories old Bob has told over time.
I grew up watching the UK version of Whose Line is it Anyway. Hosted by Clive Anderson and Colin Mockery and Ryan Stiles were regulars. It was my absolute favourite show at that time. I’ve never seen the American version but I believe Ryan and Colin were on it, so I expect it was pretty good.
About clapping in UK shows, try watching "The rest is entertainment", in which Richard Osman in one episode talks in detail about the efforts made to ensure audience responses are realistic, taken from the actual audience in the recording.
13:49 Because the combination of the roundness of the bath and the nestling in the plug hole secures the head more securely than could be achieved at the other end of the bath.
In the UK version it's like they're talking to each other with some jokes thrown in, a lot of them have worked together and have chemistry and you can see when someone doesn't fit like when Janet Street-Porter was a guest. In the US version it's like theyre performing to an audience and want everything they say to be a joke.
I notice from that wiki page that the usa show has 5 writers. The uk wiki page for the same show has no writers; does that illustrate something i wonder?
Certainly most, perhaps all modern UK panel shows have writers. In a way, this is their central falsehood - that they are conversational and improvised, when for the most part they are anything but. On some shows (and Sean Lock talks about this somewhere), the writers actually set up in a room and the performers buy their material and the rights to it then and there. Older ones (eg Just a Minute) didn't do this, and the consequent sense of a barely suppressed riot is what the modern ones lack. PS Sean didn't buy his material, and I don't think Bob did either.
@Petelfc88 the writers might be credited as producers as, to quote George RR Martin, "You know how lowly your position in Hollywood is if you have the word 'writer' in the title."
8 Out of 10 Cats Does Countdown . A show well worth checking out. So many good clips on youtube. There is no way any of it would ever be in an American version.
Hiya. Hard to pick a favourite but one of my top panel shows is the BBC's 'QI'. Been going for yonks, hosted firstly by Stephen Fry then by Sandi Toksvig. Presently on BBC2. Stay safe. All the best to you.
One of the best British comedy series was the improv show Whose Line Is It Anyway (1988-1998) hosted by Clive Anderson and starring some of the best comedians from the UK, US, and Canada - Josie Lawrence, Mike McShane, Greg Proops, Tony Slattery, John Sessions, Ryan Stiles. Definitely recommend watching if you haven't seen it.
FYI they filmed the UK version of Whose Line Is It Anyway in the US, the last series anyway and I think it was to help with the US setup as the guys behind the show obviously switched over for the US version later
Sometimes the USA try their very best to remake original British comedy. Here in the UK, in the early 1970's, we use to have a comedy called Man About the House. The American version was called Three's Company, which I found very good, as for their version of Red Dwarf, only one episode was made and then quickly shot into a black hole. There is a good American version of Ghosts that I enjoy watching, which will probably run longer than the UK version did.
I like both the UK and US Ghosts and episode wise, I believe it's already ahead. Successful remakes of UK shows do happen but they are rare. The Office apparently worked and while not strictly a comedy, Shameless did to. But then you get The IT Crowd, Inbetweeners, Ab Fab and so many others failing from the start.
Did you know that you can get tickets free of charge to sit in the audience of many of these shows? The popular shows can be difficult to get tickets for, there is normally some kind of waiting list but it is a fun night out and very interesting to see how it is done. Many are filmed in London so perfect for you to take the train in. Get there early as they usually send out more tickets than seats available to ensure there are no empty places in the audience.
There are a couple of US panel shows. One is "Wait, Wait Don't Tell Me" which is only on the radio. It has been on National Public Radio for 25 years. The newest addition is "After Midnight" which is hosted by Taylor Tomlinson and has only been on the air for a couple of months.
I’ve seen a few comments mention ‘Shooting Stars’. Now THAT’S a panel show where people don’t care about winning & losing. In all my life, I’ve never understood the scoring system - if there even is a system!? 👶🏻 🥁 🕊️
The Satuma Complex isn't an autobiography but is well worth a read. It might as well be, though, as his actual life is just as odd, and you certainly picture him as the lead character and can hear his voice as you read it. 😂
lmao Girl you have Sooooo become British , the way you shut that US version down , you could see your finger on the pause button so fast. You know British humour and it’s something that we do well. Keep up the good researching 👍
Before the tv we had radio panel shows. Shows like "im sorry i havnt a clue" and "call my bluff" are national institution, and i think they are both still running on radio 4. One of the more famous regulars was the late alan corren, who is the dad of giles and victoria, so david mitchells father in law.
Being from the US, I must say I'm heart brocken that I need to see WILTY episodes on RUclips. I have convinced many of my friends to watch WILTY and love episodes with Claudia Winkleman. We especially watch the interactions with her and Lee. Other favorites are Sara Pascoe, Miranda Hart and so many more I cant list them all. I love this type of humor.
I am English and living in the U.S. The U.S. is crap. It has been polarized beyond redemption. If you can ignore the politics, it's great. Just make sure you are in the city/state, that lines up with your morals.
It's probably worth mentioning that there are some UK panel shows that fall flat as well, it's just they're instantly forgotten about. WILTY specifically works with the combination Rob/David/Lee, it might well suck with a different combination of British comedians. Like, David Mitchell is great in many things, but his quotations-based show just didn't vibe, because he didn't really have anyone to bounce off, so not many people have heard of it.
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Someone,(on one of those talking heads programs),theorised that americans are too competitive to understand parlour games,(which a lot of panel shows are based on),they don’t get that winning or losing is irrelevant. I suggest listening to “I’m sorry I haven’t a clue”,self described antidote to panel games,which has been on the radio since the early 70’s and is incredibly silly and clever at the same time.
Marc Maron hosted a US version of Never mind the Buzcocks in the early 00s and said this exact thing. He couldn't grasp that the points didn't matter.
A show that never fails to hit the snail on the head, can you imagine a group of typical US comedians playing Mornington Creasant? it'd be carnage
It's so rare to see someone talking about I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue! I still remember listening to the broadcast when Rob Brydon was given Tom Jones Delilah to sing on Pick Up Song, and a legend was born as we heard that Rob had PIPES! I still miss Humph
Going to see a recording of I'm sorry I haven't a clue on Thursday, with my (77yr old) Dad. Can't wait
This is exactly what I was thinking, people from the u.s. are roo competitive
the popularity of these shows, it's the wit. we like wit. to us its a martial art, if someone were to take the piss out of you -in a really good and inventive way? Well, you'd salute them for it
Yes,we like Banter and among friends it can be fierce. Can you imagine those 2 USA Captains having a pop at each other?
A British person never rips a new one into someone as hard as they do to their close friends.
Bob Mortimer's 'Hand Lion' story is beyond hilarious. Would I lie..., Mock the week, QI, 8/10 cats does Countdown, are all unmissable.
We do beg your pardon, but we are in your garden
We do beg your pardon, but we are in your garden
We do beg your pardon, but we are in your garden
Love bob Mortimer.
And *that's* when shrubbery comes in.
@@colinhiggs70 If memory serves I think it was the classic game of "Assault and Shrubbery"
Was reading the comments whilst taking a sip of hot tea, went everywhere as soon as I read the first line!
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Stephen Fry discussed “the difference” between British (UK) comedy and USA and the main point is that “we” can quite easily laugh at ourselves, if we are being made fun of as there is no “you can’t make a fool of me, I’m a tv/film star” attitude. Those tv/film star who make guest appearances on panel shows never seem to take it seriously - they understand that the chances of them being ridiculed or made to look like a twit by the other “contestants” are high - it’s all part of the show!
Stephen Fry said that USA “celebrities” do find it hard to step back from the persona they have created, which makes it difficult for them to enjoy the comedy if they have to continue that image, whereas respected actors like Sir Ian McKellen, Dame Judi Dench and Sir Michael Caine for example revel in the banter and being made to look silly. He said that when speaking to his USA friends, they just could not comprehend how - when watching “our” kind of comedy - that prior to the recording of such shows, the celeb panellists are pleasant and friendly to each other but as soon as the recording starts, they seem to love making comedic abuse to each other - they were amazed at rude the banter was but was the audience considered it funny and acceptable! That’s just how we roll? 😂😂
Canadian "stars" seem to be the same as UK stars, they don't take themselve too seriously. Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.
That seems strange to me cos I have seen quite a few comedy roasts on RUclips and it involved a lot of American celebrities- frank sinatra dean martin etc
@@tucoramirez3333 Roasts are only superficially the same, they're more about bullying someone than being funny, and the subject enduring it to "prove" they're a good sport. It's still all about winning, either by breaking someone or by proving "you can take it". The subject takes it seriously because the entire point of the thing is all about them, whereas a panel show people laugh the jokes at their expense off because the show isn't really about them, they're just fuel for the comedy. One is all about ego and the other is about stepping away from your ego.
@@Ylyrra not the ones I have watched - they are laughing their heads off - including the person getting roasted
@@tucoramirez3333 Well, I guess that's what a roast is supposed to be, I've just never had the good fortune to see one that seemed genuine rather than someone being put through a right of passage like hazing.
Bob Mortimers stories on wilty are legendary , his self dendistry story is wild 😂
Fuji 9, baby!
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Once you know how to use Fuji 9, you are basically a dentist.
I love the firework story, his poor mum
The egg in the bath has also got to be one of the best as well.
Splitting an apple. It all comes down to the " present" at the end.
The running joke with QI was that only 1 person on the production team actually knew how the scoring worked, and they never explained it.
Somehow Alan Davies always managed to get the highest number of minus points, and if he was winning, Stephen Fry would soon fix that.
It was explained from the very start, it wasn't a secret. Unless you mean how many points, that wasn't stated to be fair but the general basis of how it's scored was.
Any obviously wrong answers that sets the klaxon off loses points. Anything at all funny, interesting, or the correct answer gets you points. The funny or interesting doesn't have to be on topic.
I've watched every episode I have literally never heard this alleged joke. Lumina do the scoring. Its in the credits.
@@zapkvr But no one knows how it works, that's the point.
I thought this was going to be a typical reaction video (There are so many on here) but as usual you turned it into something unique.
Judging by the clip you played of the USA version it seems to be very much a competition from the panels to see who can get the most attention. Whereas the UK version seems more a bunch of mates having a fun game whist taking the piss out of each other and Rob Brydon is very much part of that!
Have a great week x
The Elephant in the room is that unless Women are really goo,strong friends,they don't take the piss out of each other,publicly.
"Shooting Stars" is mad as hats. If you want an insane panel show.
In the UK version there are genuinely quirky people, comedians and some straight laced people but they all relax and let their guard down and then there's the chemistry between Lee, David and Rob
Actually, Radio 4 is why Britain has panel shows/games 😊
Radio 4 comedy panel games are the best. Some of the things they get away with broadcasting are incredible, especially at the time of day they’re on.
I’m Sorry I Haven’t a Clue was is legendary.
Radio is actually why we have comedy on tv in the first place, it used to be all drama!
@@abarratt8869Stephen Fry's alternative definition of the word "countryside" on ISIHAC was fantastic, he said it meant "the killing of Piers Morgan"
Indeed. Still waiting for the TV version of The Unbelievable Truth.
@@DanFre40 I still think the best joke Jack has ever said on ISIHAC is when describing the life of Marcel Marceau he said he died of gesticullar cancer. Brilliant.
Anything with Bob Mortimer, Greg Davies, Rhod Gilbert, or James Acaster is comedy gold.
I think the main issue with US attempts at panel shows is American comedians and other people in entertainment are all about being big bold personalities and getting everything hyped and thay just doesn't suit the format which is centred around mutual mockery and silliness. Other issue is people in the US tend to be less self-deprecating which is a big part of the banter.
Yeah I’ve met some Americans and honestly, the ones I’ve met so use different words at times than we do, and they can seem a bit extra, a bit more expressive about things in general. But just like us, everyone will find different things funny. They didn’t have any problem understanding my humour and I understood theirs. So really there is funny and unfunny stuff in both American and British Comedy
Yes
Google The game game. Its a classic
The Satsuma Complex is Bob Mortimer’s novel. He also has an autobiography
Bob’s Autobiography is called “And Away…..” -and it’s hilarious and we’ll worth the read or… he narrates his own book on Audiobooks.
There are some great panel shows, Mock the Week, Have I got News For You, QI, just to name a few. But the problem as far as I can see it, is that you'd never get them made the same way in the US. US TV has such tight lines that they have to stick to, or the morality police will go for them, whereas in the UK we tend to more relaxed on things, and a lot of shows push things to the very edge of what they can get away with. Take "Have I got News For You" some of the front row is made up of lawyers to make sure they don't go to far on what is said.
Oh!! if you ever get the chance look up the old versions of Never mind the Buzzcocks, which is now been rebooted, with Greg Davis as the host, which is also very good.
It's funny because while I see what you're saying about the quote-unquote morality police.... the example lie that Alanna featured from the US episode here was so disgusting it made me wonder where on earth their moral censors were at the time?!?! I can only imagine the British production team looking at that prospective lie and giving a solid blow-by-blow breakdown to the guest in question on why that lie won't fly - it's just revolting.
So sometimes in America it seems almost like there's a twisted "immorality police" if you will, that insists on forcing these gross and pointless "anti-jokes" that totally undermine the intended emphasis of the show. And this seems to be a big battle within America, because there's both a morality police AND an immorality police that fight over everything, and many things beyond good television get ruined in the crossfire.
@@lpsp442 I agree. I think in the UK the celebrities live far more normal lives and so they have things to lie/be truthful about. I thought one of the telling things on the USA versions wiki page was the number of writers. I checked the UK version and there were none. That may reflect the quality of the panelists but also the different approach between the 2 countries.
I grew up in Canada watching Front Page Challenge which was a hugely popular panel show about the news. I was actually on the Reach For The Top team for my school. But those are about the only panel shows I can remember in Canada. I love watching Would I Lie To You though. Kevin bridges buying a horse (accidentally) was my favorite episode.
Check out Mock the Week if you want a British comedy news show, much better than have I got news for you
The permanent glint in Bob Mortimer’s eye is a joy to behold 😊
I agree with you about Bob, as mentionrd below, anything with Sean Lock (rip) in 8 out of 10 cats do Countdown, but surely especially the 2 episodes of carrot in a box
Shaun Lock's seal clubbing, challenging wank and 'greatest achievement' - all in one show. That and both carrots in a box raised him to Bob Mortimer levels.
Waaaay back in the 1970s there was a show called Call My Bluff, also based on 2 teams of 3, but instead of stories the questions were 3 definitions of unusual words. One of the regulars was Alan Coren, father of Giles and Victoria (David Mitchell's father in law). By the way I enjoyed the edit of your F bomb - freeze the video but not the audio hahahahaha! Thumbsup++
Whose line is it anyway is the best.
In the UK we ended up with Ryan Stiles, Greg Proops both American and Colin Mochrie a Canadian who I’m guess must be a national treasure to Canadians.
Mike McShane too in the early days, along with Wayne Brady later on and many others. The UK show still holds up today, a lot of it is available on YT and still gets a watch from me.
Real comedy is off the cuff, not scripted, and the British shows are almost always filmed in front of a real audience.
"It was reported that the series was cancelled after 1 season" - you don't say!! 🤦♂️😂👍
The carrot in the box game on 8 out of ten cats is classic, Sean Lock was a comedy genius
I used to live in the states. Loved my years there and adore the friends I made. However, regarding TV... my bugbear about the import and export issue is that we buy successful US TV shows for broadcast in the UK. Eg: Golden Girls, Starsky & Hutch, Cheers, Frasier, Cagney & Lacey, Roseanne, Taxi, Friends, Kojak, Happy Days, Will & Grace, ER, Greys Anatomy... I could go on forever. (This, I think, also plays into why we're so much more aware of their culture than they are of ours).
But... America, for the most part, REMAKES successful British shows and, other than the Office, they mostly fail.
There's an arrogance about that, as if our TV isn't good enough as is, and Americanising it will make it somehow better.
You'd think by now, after so many fails, they'd just buy them and show them in their OG state. 🤷🏼♀️
There are currently seven international Taskmaster series running, the uk version is shown in at least 10 countries or more
It's been shown in 120 countries (or so they said in a recent interview for Radio Times in the UK). That's insane.
@Skiddins Thanks for the update ,have you a favourite season
@@deggsymarley Not really, although we're long past seasons where I know all 5 contestants, each season brings something new 🙂
Yay! Would I lie to you is one of my favourite shows. Love it. Brilliant stress reliever!
My favourite was mock the week 😊
@AdventuresAndNaps American here, I love British comedy. First fell in love with it when I stumbled across The Vicar of Dibley. Now thanks to RUclips i can watch these shows. I love The Taskmaster. You should do 8 out of 10 Cats
Who said Americans couldn’t do cringe comedy? Their version of WILTY made me cringe SOOOOOO hard! 😂
I was thinking the same thing 🤣
I think that my 'palate cleanser' will be to hunt down Bob Mortimer's story about the fireworks...!! 😀
Fantastic bit!
have you seen Lee mack's cockney routine at the Apollo, you've probably lived here long enough to appreciate it, thanks for the content, love it!
John Simm was, of course, The Master but just before that he played DCI Sam Tyler in a series called Life on Mars which was actually the first thing I remember him from.
Also cop show Grace. New series coming soon.
I remember the bit about Bob's owl, and I know that the video you watched was cut. The biggest argument was when Bob said it was very sick and couldn't fly, David asked "And it still escaped?" which made it 100% a lie to me.
As a UK fan, the recent 10+ year run of Whose Line US is now my favourite which I rewatch a lot more than the 00s series. Aisha Tyler was such a fantastic addition as presenter and the new regular guests were all great as well as the original guests who returned. The humour is pretty much the same slapstick, innuendo laden stuff from its previous two versions, but right up to date in regards to trends and satire. It’s exactly what you loved in the 00s but just with more recent references.
When Whose Line finished in the UK, I thought That was that, but the US version is just so hilarious. The 2 main (UK) originals with Ryan, Colin and occasionally Greg took it to the USA, and I guess it's quite "niche", but, it's probably the funniest US "panel" show that I've watched. The show is comedy gold....
Completely agree regarding Bob Mortimer. What a talent! He, David Mitchell and Lee Mack have provided me with so many hilarious moments over the years. I wonder if they realise the impact on people across the other side of the world (Australia here) - raising spirits, bringing humour and joy to people. I hope they know how they are appreciated 👏
It's great that you're a reader - David Mitchell's book about the history of the British monarchy is not only educational. but I could actually hear his voice speaking inside my head as I read. He's a comic genius.
Very interesting, that last section! Hi from N Ireland. And yes, I've often made this observation about the distinct uniqueness of UK "panel show" comedy - and how legit god tier it is - vs the lack of it over there. I'm 39, and remember vividly watching the first series of "Have I Got News For You" in 1990, no IDEA wtf the politics was about, but laughing my head off at the shildish humour of Paul Merton, and indeed "Whose Line is it Anyway?", which ofc, was also largely accessible to kids.
I'm Canadian, debating whether to suggest she watch a compilation of Kevin McAleer's Uncle Colm on Derry Girls. Knocks the wind out of me every time.
@@danmayberry1185 I was born In Omagh, County Tyrone, Kevin McAleer's home town :) That would be interesting. Love the fella
I'll have to watch this later but just want to add that new Taskmaster is starting next week. Woo-hoo!
The US managed to screw up their version of that too, which is quite an achievement. The NZ version (especially seasn 2) is well worth a look. 🙂
I really liked the AUS version!
@@AdventuresAndNaps Yeah, that was good too but the NZ season 2 is up there with the best of any version.
Agree with the recommendation for the NZ version. I’d love to see the Aussie version
What makes UK panel shows so popular is the contestants' chemistry with each other, many of the UK's contestants have worked together on other projects because the UK's entertainment industry is a lot smaller than the US one, so you tend to see many of the same people on TV at the same time, so chemistry between contestants has already been established before the recording of the show even begins.
Panel shows are brilliant...I think I mentioned them to you a while ago...love them ❤
This is just the kind of video I needed today. Thank you, and congratulations on 150,000 subscribers!
Yay! Thank you!
You're welcome!
To be fair, Who’s Line Is It Anyway is a British panel show that did hit big in the US (still airing after decades).
I prefer the reboot with Aisha Tyler hosting it. I always felt Drew Carey tried to make the show all about him rather than the performers and it came across as very forced. They quite often try to include a woman in the lineup, other than Aisha, but it rarely works. Josie Lawrence was pretty much a staple on the UK version and she was great.
Sean Lock - Carrott in a Box. Enough said.
The British version of this show is such a success because of the chemistry between and talent of Rob Brydon, David Mitchell and Lee Mack. They have distinctive and individual styles of humour. Their constant ribbing of each other adds another humorous element to the show. If you watch the first few seasons of the show you will see how it has evolved into the success it is today. Rob started off as a guest where his talent shone through. It was obvious then that he was the right man to take over as the chairman. I never tire of the show. You are right about Bob and his stories. They are so out there that they drive David crazy trying to decide truth or lie. Have you seen the one where Bob claims to do his own dentistry? That's a classic. 😂😂
That US version was...oh my days I don't even have the words! 😂
Hope you do more oanel shows, I grew uo with Have I Got News For You and then later, Mock The Week and also love 8 of 9 Cats so I'm hoping you have or do some more on English panel shows 🤞🏾
Another great vid, Alana. Loving your work
there was a pannel show called blankerty blank, when i was little, it was a national treasure. when i was little i liked one called never mind the buzzcocks a music one
Buzzcocks is still going although it's on Sky now. Greg Davies is the host.
Blankety blank came back recently.
18:35 I think that's done not only to get people into the atmosphere of the show, but to also get material for the editors. Sounds of crowds giving various reactions allow them to add them at other points to "boost" an audience reaction
You are a lovely addition to Britain, glad to have you.. You are with us for good reasons
How was the funniest part of this whole video not the professional comedians but Alanna reading the comments under the American version. So good
Omg! Loved this! I hope you do more reactions! So funny!
I think that the next panel show you should cover is 8 Out Of 10 Cats Does Countdown. 🙂
Most baths in flats etc are fixed to the wall, so if you're 6'8" and sleeping in one, you'd have to sleep with your head at the tap and otherwise you'd have nowhere to hang your legs to fit into it at all.
I know it's months later, but... wow girl, you are getting some GOOD comments about this particular episode. I'm guessing (?) most of the comments are from Brits who are all old now (because of the comments about previous shows we used to have back in the day) lol.
I grew up watching M*A*S*H loved it and am now watching repeats... it took me ages to ignore the canned laughter when I revisited it!
whose line is it anyway started in the uk... clive anderson, tony slattery, ryan stiles, greg proops, josie lawrence was the original line-up.
Have I got news for you, QI, Mock The Week, Celebrity Juice, Never Mind The Buzzcocks….. the list goes on!
I recognized John Simm right away. Anyone who has watched the revived Doctor Who would recognize him, I would think.
And you've got to watch more WILTY, it's brilliant. There's an "Unseen bits" one where Sophie Herman flirts with David Mitchell, there's Kevin Bridges once accidentally bought a horse, Lee Mack's Wok Around the Clock and more. Obviously you've seen some but keep searching them out to react to.
Friends was filmed with a live audience and that made it good, although the Classic "Mash" had canned laughter which was removed when it first came to the UK
The laughing on friends is edited in. There’s plenty of videos on here where the laughter track has been removed, you can still here the audience laughing but it’s only really at bloopers not so much at the jokes in the show.
I think the funniest Would I lie to you episode is the 1 with Kevin Bridges & the horse 😂
It is possibly the greatest panel show ever created on British TV, and certainly better than all others remaining. No politics, no whining, no virtue signalling, just performers doing what they do best. It is really a treat! It's a strange relic, like one of those ancient Egyptian Obelisks encountered in Rome, Paris or London, still there after all these years because nobody can think of anything better to replace it.
Btw, on the radio check out "I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue" the self-styled "antidote to panel shows".
I’ve been to recordings of several UK panel shows, including live broadcasts like The Last Leg, and we don’t use canned laughter! We’d all cringe at canned laughter and a show that used it would be cancelled quickly!
Re head and taps; if the tap end is against a wall and the other end isn't, then Greg's long legs can hang out the bath with his head at the tap end
I’m sure others comments have already said it but personally I think it’s because of the difference in culture between the UK and US.
In the US you’re competing to be the biggest and loudest in the room compared to the UK where we don’t want to cause a fuss. We are not main characters and we don’t want to inconvenience others.
There were so many more would i lie to you clips that could have been used, surely it's worth another video. Especially with the stories old Bob has told over time.
Congrats on hitting 150k well deserved, Alana.
I grew up watching the UK version of Whose Line is it Anyway. Hosted by Clive Anderson and Colin Mockery and Ryan Stiles were regulars. It was my absolute favourite show at that time. I’ve never seen the American version but I believe Ryan and Colin were on it, so I expect it was pretty good.
About clapping in UK shows, try watching "The rest is entertainment", in which Richard Osman in one episode talks in detail about the efforts made to ensure audience responses are realistic, taken from the actual audience in the recording.
My old favourite panel show with Bob was shooting stars. Loved that back when I was a kid. 8 out of 10 and celebrity juice are also very funny
Bob Mortimer compilation from 8 out of 10 cats is really something 😂😂
13:49 Because the combination of the roundness of the bath and the nestling in the plug hole secures the head more securely than could be achieved at the other end of the bath.
if the head is not at the tap end the legs have to be. Legs move more and more likely to get hurt
The US version called those people "celebrities" but I've not heard of any of them
In the UK version it's like they're talking to each other with some jokes thrown in, a lot of them have worked together and have chemistry and you can see when someone doesn't fit like when Janet Street-Porter was a guest. In the US version it's like theyre performing to an audience and want everything they say to be a joke.
I notice from that wiki page that the usa show has 5 writers. The uk wiki page for the same show has no writers; does that illustrate something i wonder?
Of course the British show has writers who do you think writes the statements on the cards?
Certainly most, perhaps all modern UK panel shows have writers. In a way, this is their central falsehood - that they are conversational and improvised, when for the most part they are anything but. On some shows (and Sean Lock talks about this somewhere), the writers actually set up in a room and the performers buy their material and the rights to it then and there. Older ones (eg Just a Minute) didn't do this, and the consequent sense of a barely suppressed riot is what the modern ones lack. PS Sean didn't buy his material, and I don't think Bob did either.
@Petelfc88 the writers might be credited as producers as, to quote George RR Martin, "You know how lowly your position in Hollywood is if you have the word 'writer' in the title."
You’re right that American ‘Would I lie to you’ was APPALLING!😊
8 Out of 10 Cats Does Countdown . A show well worth checking out. So many good clips on youtube. There is no way any of it would ever be in an American version.
2nd that…
“ that’s a challenging wank”….
Hiya. Hard to pick a favourite but one of my top panel shows is the BBC's 'QI'. Been going for yonks, hosted firstly by Stephen Fry then by Sandi Toksvig. Presently on BBC2. Stay safe. All the best to you.
One of the best British comedy series was the improv show Whose Line Is It Anyway (1988-1998) hosted by Clive Anderson and starring some of the best comedians from the UK, US, and Canada - Josie Lawrence, Mike McShane, Greg Proops, Tony Slattery, John Sessions, Ryan Stiles.
Definitely recommend watching if you haven't seen it.
That Bob Mortimer book is The Satsuma Complex. While presented as more of a fiction, there are elements within that correspond with his Autobiography.
FYI they filmed the UK version of Whose Line Is It Anyway in the US, the last series anyway and I think it was to help with the US setup as the guys behind the show obviously switched over for the US version later
I wonder if you've come across the UK sitcom Coupling? It's a bit like friends though more adult and they don't all live together.
Shooting stars, vic and bob being surreal.
@gideondurham924. Yer wouldn't let it lie, would yer? 😄😄
Sometimes the USA try their very best to remake original British comedy. Here in the UK, in the early 1970's, we use to have a comedy called Man About the House. The American version was called Three's Company, which I found very good, as for their version of Red Dwarf, only one episode was made and then quickly shot into a black hole. There is a good American version of Ghosts that I enjoy watching, which will probably run longer than the UK version did.
I like both the UK and US Ghosts and episode wise, I believe it's already ahead.
Successful remakes of UK shows do happen but they are rare. The Office apparently worked and while not strictly a comedy, Shameless did to. But then you get The IT Crowd, Inbetweeners, Ab Fab and so many others failing from the start.
Did you know that you can get tickets free of charge to sit in the audience of many of these shows? The popular shows can be difficult to get tickets for, there is normally some kind of waiting list but it is a fun night out and very interesting to see how it is done. Many are filmed in London so perfect for you to take the train in. Get there early as they usually send out more tickets than seats available to ensure there are no empty places in the audience.
There are a couple of US panel shows. One is "Wait, Wait Don't Tell Me" which is only on the radio. It has been on National Public Radio for 25 years. The newest addition is "After Midnight" which is hosted by Taylor Tomlinson and has only been on the air for a couple of months.
I found myself agreeing with one of the comments at 19:07. Then I realised it was my comment.
I’ve seen a few comments mention ‘Shooting Stars’. Now THAT’S a panel show where people don’t care about winning & losing. In all my life, I’ve never understood the scoring system - if there even is a system!? 👶🏻 🥁 🕊️
The Satuma Complex isn't an autobiography but is well worth a read. It might as well be, though, as his actual life is just as odd, and you certainly picture him as the lead character and can hear his voice as you read it. 😂
I'd highly recommend James Acasters 4 parter 'Repertoire' Absolute game changer. And cold Lasagne 👌🏽💙
You should check out Never mind the buzzcocks but the earlier episodes , Britain was different in the late 90's early 2000nds.
lmao Girl you have Sooooo become British , the way you shut that US version down , you could see your finger on the pause button so fast. You know British humour and it’s something that we do well. Keep up the good researching 👍
at the end, Alana, it looked like you were being held at gunpoint!
Before the tv we had radio panel shows. Shows like "im sorry i havnt a clue" and "call my bluff" are national institution, and i think they are both still running on radio 4. One of the more famous regulars was the late alan corren, who is the dad of giles and victoria, so david mitchells father in law.
Being from the US, I must say I'm heart
brocken that I need to see WILTY episodes on RUclips. I have convinced many of my friends to watch WILTY and love episodes with Claudia Winkleman. We especially watch the interactions with her and Lee. Other favorites are Sara Pascoe, Miranda Hart and so many more I cant list them all. I love this type of humor.
I am English and living in the U.S.
The U.S. is crap.
It has been polarized beyond redemption.
If you can ignore the politics, it's great.
Just make sure you are in the city/state, that lines up with your morals.
Sean Locke's "Carrot in a Box" sketch is as good as it gets. 😂
Both parts.
8 out of 10 cats does countdown is a must
I love QI, educational as well as very funny 😂
Old ones: "Call my bluff" or "Face the music"
Call my Bluff was originally American I believe.
@@vladd6787 Not according to chatGpt: ""Call My Bluff" was a British game show that originally aired on the BBC in 1965.
We have a very strong comedy panel show generator in the form of Radio 4. A lot of these TV ones started there.
It is always worth watching anything with Bob Mortimer in it
Many of the popular British TV shows, especially comedy and panel shows are available on different streaming platforms in America...
It's probably worth mentioning that there are some UK panel shows that fall flat as well, it's just they're instantly forgotten about. WILTY specifically works with the combination Rob/David/Lee, it might well suck with a different combination of British comedians. Like, David Mitchell is great in many things, but his quotations-based show just didn't vibe, because he didn't really have anyone to bounce off, so not many people have heard of it.
Willy was just as good when it first stared with Angus deton hosting
But yeah i agree David Lee and rob are like Clarckson Hammond and may