Why Was Victoria II so Awesome?! A Retrospective Review | Is Victoria 2 Worth Playing in 2021?
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Hey there friends! In this video, we take a look at Victoria II, the game every troll (me) in every Paradox comment section has been clamouring for a a sequel for, forever. And they (we) finally got their (our) voices heard. I attempt to take a quick look at this decade old gem, and I invite you to come with me :) Let me know what you think of Victoria II, and if there's anything I've missed in the video that you'd like to mention! If you enjoyed the video, then please leave a like, a comment, subscribe to the channel, and consider supporting me on Patreon: / andystake
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I enjoyed this video so much that I was super surprised how few views it has
That’s an amazing compliment dude, thank you so much. I hope you’ll stick around for more :)
holy shit you're right
wtf
RUclips algorithms are harsh! However, this video has twice the views as any Paradox produced videos on Vic 2. This video should get a bump with Vicky 3 being hot garbage!
Victoria 2 actually still has my favourite aesthetic and graphics even all this time later.
Good to hear, I hope you’re as excited as I am for Vicky 3 :)
0/10 Why is my plane an officer with a halo on his head wtf
nahhhh really ?
I still love this game and still play it mainly because of the economy and population simulations and I just love the old aesthetics
Yeah I love the old aesthetic as well:)
"The consequences of playing Belgium when France is your neighbour"
I just finished my very first Vic II game and chose Belgium. France got bullied by Germany, they tried to reconquer Alsace Lorraine several times without any success. They never attacked me and when France and Russia tried to take back their territories by declaring war on Germany and their ally England, I joined Germany and even took two states from the French
10/10, would play again
My last Dutch game, I conquered Belgium. No one talks about the consequences of being beside the Dutch ;)
Great, now I don't need to explain to my friends what's Victoria2
Haha exactly! :D
Because they have Prussia, and ppl loves Prussia.
People sure LOOOVES Prussia
@@AndysTake Preußens Gloria intensifies
Yeah, unless you’re Poland, France, or Russia
@@henrylarson6970 Those guys are saps anyway.
Especially when it's yellow
I just started playing it this week after seeing Bokoen & Cia play it for years. I learned the basics with Ecuador. 5 or 6 unsuccesful games until I pulled a "nothing is on fire" victory, with a decent army, a transport fleet for the Galapagos and 2 factories working nice and smoothly. The only rebellions I had were fascists in the late game.
PS. I just love the UI organization and asthethics of Vic2 compared to Hearts of Iron 3. No annoying trade requests is the best thing ever.
The map still holds up to this day
I wish more RUclipsrs had your calm. Great video.
Thank you so much, Hampus, that really means a lot :)
Taking Persia from an uncivilized backwater to a great power. A beautiful game.
Why Is Victoria II so Awesome?! A Retrospective
There you go fixed the title? :)
This game is simple and complex at the same time. I love playing this game over and over.
I recently started playing Vicky 2 again, but I found the diplomacy and army creation tedious, and my biggest gripe with Vicky 2 is that I constantly had to go into the game files to understand how for example migration works. I still have no idea how the game prioritizes which pops get which goods that they need if you don't produce enough for everyone, which is hugely important to prevent rebellions and push reforms. That said, it is probably the best Paradox game where peacetime is concerned, as a lot of the game doesn't have to do with war; things like literacy rate and pop welfare and migration are at the core of the game. So far it looks like Vicky 3 will be much more player friendly, and could well become my new favorite game, surpassing even EU4 🤞
I'm a bit disapointed with CK3 so far, can't really say why. I played the heck out of CK1&2 and Vici2. It looks good but it's just missing something, I don't want to wait 5 years and pay 20 DLC's to enjoy Victoria 2. But it seems this is the way, nowadays.
@Deep Root Calanchus Might wanna try Terra Invicta in the meantime if you good with the setting (todays world, xcom-style alien invasion). It's a lot of subterfuge and politics and later on The Expanse style space combat. Definitly challenging and a nice sandbox. The tug of war over the influence over nations reminds me a bit of Victoria 2. Been playing it for a couple days and having a blast.
Paradox games are usually a hit or miss. In this case a massive hit. I do not regret buying this old game at all.
You and me both, friend!
Which ones are misses?
@@nosouponhead March of the Eagles for example. Imperator Rome, this is kinda controversial but personally I couldn’t have fun with it. There are more but they’re old so it wouldn’t be fair to bring them up.
@@nosouponhead Europa Universalis: Rome
And a lot of the ones that are hit are so expensive by virtue of all the DLCs that its physically painful to get into fully
Best part is that Vic 2 still has an extremely active MP community that engages so many people. Large competitive and casual MP games are still very prevalent!
I agree
Good video: on point, short, with examples confirming what you say Also pleasant voice with a good diction Btw, I'm buying the game ;)
Thank you! :D I hope you enjoy the game!
@@AndysTake I'm sure I will: love EU and CK series
I think the best part about Vicky II is infinite replayability.
The game has so many options that it's almost impossible to do everything in a lifetime. The sphere system is unique to Vicky Alone, and the industry system is incredibly fun to build up and expand. The War System (while favoring the AI) is still very fun, and giant retard wars are fun to fight. Vicky II in my opinion is one of the best for creating your own story. If you want to create a Nationalistic Germany bent on incorporating all Germans (and similar cultures) into one giant Monarchy, you can do that. If you want to restore Napoleon's Empire, you can do that too. If you want to spark a world revolution by puppeting half of Europe, then you can do that. And throughout it all you can create your own story for why it's happening and how these Empires came to be. You can alter history in an infinite amount of ways. I love Vicky II for this reason. It is by far my favorite Paradox Game. The only other game that even remotely captured this same sense of infinite replayability for me was Stellaris.
Because it doesn’t shove the morally right choice down your throat.
It let you see the 19th century for what it really was, with all of its flaws and fascinations. It didn’t punish you with universal opinion malus based on modern sensibilities for being a bigoted slave owner or against immigration. It created a realistic dynamic and left the moral decision making to you.
I mean slavery is still inefficient which is why people dont do it in the game
@@haotatyan right, but we should figure that out ourselves without the devs adding in like 50 unrealistic maluses to things they don't like.
@@samwisegamgee8318 true. Kinda like real life where slavery would probably be phased out after long enough
@@haotatyan Ummmm Note to those with their heads in the sand, there is more slaves TODAY than there has been at any point in History. And I am not even talking about debt slavery
@@heathclark318 True. According to the Constitution, all US prisoners are officially slaves. And the US alone has 25% of the world's prison population.
I think you should've mentioned the HPM, HFM and GFM mods since they add lots of flavor to the game
Andy, you’re amazing🖤🖤
No, YOU’RE amazing! ❤️❤️
I like to play Belgium it’s fun the only problem is the dice rolls with Prussia
Really great video,great channel,all it needs is a hot topic to make videos about (ex: cyberpunk launch),and this channel will go viral
Thank you so much! :D haha yeah, the Victoria III news was an example of a great springboard!
I really enjoyed this game 10 years ago and I'm super stoked about the upcoming Victorie 3 release!
You can’t sphere anyone above 10 mill pops btw
Oh damn I didn’t realize :) thanks for letting me know! So it’ll take a bit of partitioning to sphere China, eh? Haha
@@AndysTake np the game has a lot of nuances like that and there are some I’m still learning about
@@green4527 thanks for watching, mate! Hope to see you around :)
The music
Vicky 2 was my first Paradox Game. It was by far my favorite up until Vicky 3 after they brought back private investments. I honestly have been enjoying Victoria 3; I certainly dont miss fighting my 12th Anarcho-Communist rebellion from Victoria 2, but it will always feel special to me.
Thank you. I will definitely give this game a looksy :)
I hope you have fun! :D
I love a lot of new strategy games, but I still go back to medieval 2 total war... A game from 2006, and I will definitely be playing this
thx for the Video now I know I have to buy Victoria III
Thanks for watching and leaving a comment! And yeah, definitely, so excited for it!
Despite peoples doubts about it, I’m super excited for Victoria 3. Started playing Vicky 2 again to prepare. Got a good thing going as Canada, even became a great power, sphered Denmark and conquered Haiti…before USA declared war and obliterated my army out of nowhere and then like five rebellions happened before I could even make one new unit.
I was checking out this review just to see what might be different from Vic 3. I really hope Vic 3 adds the spheres, coalitions, pops being involved in international affairs, budget sliders and the ability to pick any nation. Is this with DLC?
And now we're getting vic 3 Let's go
YES
I'm sold. Victoria 3 is coming out, but going to buy Victoria 2 first.
thanks for the video! great work
Thank you so much, Seb! Cheers :D
great video :)
Thank you, and thanks for watching :)
funny considering that i heard isp saying that this game have a legacy of being trash
Can’t wait for vicky 3 but vicky 2 will always be played
good video sir.
68th. Before 3 releases and this blows up.
Hey man, can you make a video for best mods for Victoria II?
Guys if you ever buy this game please for god buy it with all the DLC or you will have one heck of a game up your steam library. With added bonus of yellow Prussia.
At this point, what does Victoria III lack that Victoria II has? Honest question. I'd love to get into Victoria III, but I'm waiting for the patch that's supposed to come out at the end of this month (November of 2023).
The game still pales in comparison to its Predecessor Vic 2 > Vic 3 Still.
@@heathclark318my dear friend economics in Victoria3 is so much better but I definitely agree that in warfare and overall flavor which makes each country special victoria3 can be considered a failed game which is easily fixable with dlcs and updates and the new 1.7 patch and spheres of influence dlc is a sign that they are moving in the right direction atleast in my mind they are doing so
I was playing as Croatia in the middle of the christian fights of Byzantium and catholic central europe. It was brutal. Being Belgium is nothing when you are fighting strongest nations in the game all around you.
I think Vic2 would have the same relation to Vic3 that AOE2 has to AOE3 .
In warfare aspect, it certainly seems that way.
This video convinced me to buy the game, thanks
Thank you for watching :)
@@AndysTake Thank you for making suck a good video, definitely checking out the rest of your channel
i have a question, why is the song "i'm a good 'ol rebel" playing?
Short answer. Yes. Victoria 2 is amazing. And you should play it.
8:50 no flavour? that's a plus. mechanics focus is great
Victoria 3 is here, and it's terrible.
Oh boy, him hopping that Vicky 3 had more flavor...
Thoughts now?
Victoria 2 has number going up
..... until V3 comes out and is, in the end, the same blob of buttons all over the place like EU4...! I'm still crying for my 40 Euros... 🤢😭
A game shouldn't be difficult to learn, to start having fun with.
I find most Paradox games "stupid", like they were made by 7 year olds who know how to code.
A game should take the player 1 - 2 hours to get the "feeling" and understanding of it and NOT 10+ hours...!
Crusader Kings 2 hands down!!! 💞
My friend, I guarantee you people feel exactly the same way about CK2 😂😂❤️
Victoria 3 is going to be like HOI4 with a couple of $100 worth of DLC I bet
Because you can unite Bulgaria and all Bulgarians around the Balkans, without the big powers taking your land
0:56 its yellow its yellow its yellow its yellow its yellow its yellow its yellow
0:00 So I take it that this game is like Halo, is it not?
Vicky 2 deserved better than Vicky 3
SOOOOO much better
It's gonna be sad when Victoria 3 is worse then Victoria 2
It was sad..
who care about graphics when the gameplay is amazing
specially for paradox games
2:18 EU4 is bad precisely because visuals were focused on too much.
Gfm mod make vic2 better
was? Its 12 years old, so what?
What? Victoria II awesome??? It was terrible! I really loved Victoria I and had such expectations when VII came out, but when it did... Oh boy... When - I just stopped playing after couple of tries and that's about it. This game is too simple - yet confusing. It's primitive - yet overcomplicated. Well, to put it short - it's a disaster and now appraisals can change my mind. :D
Um.... So is Victoria 2 Worth Playing in 2021?
With mods? Absolutely, try HFM.
@@MrGilang100 You should check it out GFM. It's basically additional content on top of HFM. It does run noticeably slower however
@@martinaustin6230 Yes, but the GFM is just too far from vanilla for my taste.
GFM
play Vic2 just for economic management, creating tool and import to another country, war are not important rather than stability and economic control .
This aged poorly.
EU4 is ugly
I agree.
Meh, it's decent
So I bought this game last year and I’ve got to say it’s probably my least favorite paradox game. What’s even the point? You barely conquer anything and it’s so boring, I kinda regret my purchase but oh well
I think this games fans really hype this game up too much, it’s got great ideas but most of its not implemented all that well and is full of objectively bad game designs, I *kinda* like the game myself though the games fans are too liberal with their praise.