These guys actually have the charisma and humor that all the other content providers try to imitate. Probably because they’re not only content providers. More from Nick and Addison. Even loved the yams.
& Addison is the crappy Amazon made in China generic wanna be clone.... it comes with a sick pic of Jeff Bezos doing the Dr. Evil pinky finger on it though.... so yeah
How is it that everyone on this channel is a gifted multi-instrumentalist? You guys all rock on guitar, bass, drums and I assume at this point probably didgeridoo and theremin. I know you have families, I know you have jobs... when do y’all find the time? I barely manage to suck on guitar. BTW - when do we get the “Do pedals work on jazz pan flute” episode?
You could try sucking on the cable as shown in the video, but it's a really metal move. Like, you might want to be aware of any metal you may be touching before attempting it.
to be good at music, you have to be able to listen to the other instruments. After you're good at that is much easier to learn other instruments. It doesn't take much immediate time. It's more of a question of access to other instruments. 10 min of drums today. 15 min of bass tomorrow. Eventually you get decent. And each new instrument adds more understanding to your previous instruments too. It's a journey :p
In my own experience, it's easier to learn another instrument after you've already picked up one. I can actually sit down at a piano and play sort of okay after learning guitar.
@@charlesrense5199 - Yea man. Totally. As a drummer i taught myself to play bass because: 1) As you said, i already went through the process of learning an instrument. 2) i knew how the bass parts were supposed to sound cause that's what i'm focused on locking in with as a drummer, and i'd watched enough bass players i'd played with.
There was a jam maybe a couple of weeks ago, maybe a month ago, I'm not really sure, but what I do remember is the jam was so intense and brutal that Addison's hair moved, and it was very inspiring.🤘
I guarantee this isn't the last we've heard about this😂 I can see the next video's title now... "JHS, & how I'm not the greatest pedal nerd Nick knows, despite having all the boxes!"
EQ pedals and boost pedals can go just about anywhere. Oh and get a transparent buffer and put it right after the Wah. Fuzz, Univibe and Wah probably won’t play well with a buffer before them, but a good buffer makes a difference once you’ve got more than 4 or 5 pedals.
One of my favorite sounds is a delay before distortion. You can turn the mix down low and make the repeats get cleaner as they go, and if you do that and turn the delay speed down to like 20ms, you get a pretty neat pseudo-doubletrack effect. JUST TRY STUFF!
This is gods work boys. You two kept the vibe of the channel and gave it a nice flavor. Been watching the channel for years and this was a very fresh and fun episode. Although, Josh is still the master of hosting music content!
Definitely using "Stampede Earthquake" as the opening music to my apocalyptical space western. But "Tsunami Blues" over the end credits of the smoking ruins of the planet. Well done.
In the episode "building a pedalboard against the clock" Addison is the one leading the charge helping Nick put it all together. If you havent seen it, it may scratch that itch for ya!
Great episode, thank you. The jam with the HOF more up front was pretty spectacular. I use the Meteore for that kind of thing occasionally. I twist around my “orders” a bit, or quite a bit, but tried and true is always a pretty good fallback when “just try stuff” leads to the wrong kind of musical disasters.
You guys rock! I've never seen the technique before where the player pulls the cable out and inserts the end of the cable into the mouth to produce monster feedback without electrocuting oneself. Then again when performance complexities present themselves remember the sacred mantra "JUST TRY STUFF"
Jessica Dobson is extremely under rated. I first saw her on a show called "From the Basement" when she was playing for The Shins.........my gawwwwd the whole show I was saying "who is this mysterious woman bending time, space, and sound". She was off in her own corner with her amp at waist level using her body to control and manipulate feedback.
So much good on this channel. My favorite gear-head channel by far! These guys (and Josh, of course) are a wonderful team for inspiring creativity in your setup- “Here’s how the rules work, no go have fun and break’em!”
Oh, and on the subject of messing around with rules… I actually wanted a little “doom” in my more percussive and tight “Jones-esque” setup. So I run a EHX Op-amp Big Muff in parallel with my VH4 pedal, Pod X3 (running Rectifier and Uberschall paths in parallel/Dual Tone mode, sans FX) and DSL20 head. The POD, VH4, and Muff all run into a solid state power amp and add an ungodly bass response to the tight, mid-focused Marshall. I tried the Muff up front before my FX, but it just sounded too good on its own. It stays tight, but really blooms with varied attack. I’m kind of a cretin when it comes to FX, because I run everything up front - you know, like they did in the days before effects loops. Hell, I figure it worked then, and as long as my effects are not really over the top, it should work now. But for boosts and extra gain I have Cloned Centaur and a Plumes, although I dig the 3-series fuzz, so I may add that too. It may sound convoluted, or wrong in any number of ways, but it achieves the tone I’ve been chasing in my head for 25 years.
I watched a bunch of videos on understanding peral order, and then I just tried stuff! I liked the adaptive distortion before the overdrive, but then the RAT after the overdrive. Distortion -> Overdirve -> Distortion
Love, love, love these videos. Production value is always superb. Variety of musical genres are alway diverse. Lighthearted humour is much appreciated. No shortage of wisdom to impart. Bravo, JHS.
Great Job guys ! Love the new format . For those that havent heard Josh has moved to his private Island in the Caribbean. Its worth mentioning , On a neighboring Island Josh has a 50,000 sg ft warehouse that is completely filled with Original Klons and Mig 50's . ... Back to boards , I Too have done the Just try stuff thing and ended up liking "the traditional order " ,with my current pedals . Love the show guys ,Thanks !
I remember an old "music is win" video where in the end we could see a "stupid guitarist" using delay before distortion. This thing pissed me off. Finally some famous guitar nerds declaring that delay before dist is not an error, it's a choice.
I guess what goes with music theory in general works with pedal order too. Conventions are written down common practice, not hard rules. If you find something that sounds good, maybe some day it will become part of the common practice. Pedal order can depend on your setup anyway. For example I have amp in the middle (I just love the Marshall sound), so I have to be quite careful putting anything that raises the volume after the amp. I did figure out by trial and error though that putting distortion pedal in the effects loop will get character of the pedal more up front. What sounds good is somewhat subjective though, so the "just try stuff" mantra is good. Just remember to start with something sensible, so you won't get totally lost.
Thanks! Before this I ended up having the guitar at the end of the chain, the amp in the middle and pedals at the beginning. Funny enough. I had the fuzz first 👍🏻
Tremelo at the end = deeper/more obvious tremelo. When it's before the Reverb and Delay, the Reverb and Delay can fill in the gaps from the trem. Tremelo at the end also means your reverb tails have the tremelo effect on them. It's weird at first but because of Fender Blackface amps, people are actually pretty used to the sound of trem after verb.
Great episode! Lots of stuff to just try. My usual pedal order is totally different from your baseline: wah -> envelope filter -> POG -> fuzz (Farm Pedals Sweet Leaf - doesn't squeal) -> compressor -> lite overdrive -> univibe (Mojo Hand Lunavibe - doesn't squeal) -> heavy overdrive -> trem -> delay. I'll have to move things around and test out some new orders.
I really enjoyed this episode. After a few months of trying stuff, I came up with my -current- signal chain: guitar + overdrive + fuzz + wah + distortion + chorus + amp (with delay and reverb). No specific pedal names so you can experiment with your own.
There is clearly a row of about 8 visible Klon Centaurs in the background while Nick and Addison are jamming. Want to sell one? 😁 Love you guys. Also, I will be putting my delay in front of my overdrive from this point on.
This was awesome. This old man who is quickly becoming sick of everyone and everything was like a little kid watching the best thing ever. You two hit it out of the park. Downside is now everything else in the whole world sucks!
I always thought my fuzz into OD sounded like garbage, thought maybe it was the pedals. Then I tried switching it and it sounds so good. Right now i am playing with this, Tape Delay > OD > Fuzz > Fuzz > Wah > Dist > Spinning Speaker > Chorus > Analog Delay > Reverb > Digital Delay > Reverb. Anytime I get a new pedal I try it in various spots in the chain, see how it all flows.
Glad to see i'm not the only one who doesn't put fuzz first. After a lot of testing I realized I prefer to put my wah, vibe and od before my JHS minifoot (which I believe is a silicon fuzz face type). The «fuzz first» rule must depend on what type of fuzz you're using...
Amazing episode! Y’all killed it. When I first started watching this show I was not a huge fan of Addison. I just felt like he was a stick in the mud personality wise. I have been watching this show for sometime about a year, and I have to say I understand more of his personality towards the audience, and I have come to enjoy his presence more on the show in the last three months. I don’t mean to offend by any stretch I am just being honest. I think the changing point for me is when he took over Nick while he was on baby leave and his true personality showed through as an entertainer. This episode just proves my point even further. I try really not to judge anyone especially if you haven’t walked in there shoes, but I must say Addison has proved me wrong on my first impressions. Thought I would share that and say what an amazing episode probably one of my favorites.
The order of overdrive, distortion and booster is going to depend so much on what pedals. I have found so many cut a bunch of high end which sometimes works and other times makes it sound small depending on what the pedal is meant to be doing and the amp.
I personally tend to do my distortion after overdrive and then compression after that usually but don’t tend to stack gain pedals with eachother and mostly stack them in to a clean/breaking up/dirty amp depending what I’m doing. The exception to not stacking gain pedals is boosting my fuzzes up to sit better in a mix. I also do tremolo after reverb/delay. I also typically put wah after all my gain but *sometimes* put it after my delay. I just tried stuff and this is what I have ultimately settled on.
I always put Distortion after Overdrive. And I preferred the sound of it here. Although in my case, I don't actually have a "distortion" pedal. I use a Fuzz and put it after my overdrive. It's a big muff, not a fuzz face. So it's okay that it's not first. But yeah low-gain into high-gain sounds way better to me.
Ive been experimenting with this lately too. I have long had the lower drive before the higher drive and even after all the comments saying otherwise find the lower first to be better to my ears.
how can it be that the building has retained its structural integrity rather than simply collapsing under the sheer weight of how awesome this is? and most importantly, how can it be possible that I've been subscribed to this channel for as long as I have and NEVER SEEN EITHER OF THESE TWO HUMANS SPEAK?! Like I've been watching these two play bass and drums for a goddamn millennia by now what the actual hell
Nick and Addison are AWESOME together! I am curious as to why y’all chose Muff style fuzzes for go after the dirt and not at the beginning but best believe I am going to try it when I get my Muffaleta
Muff doesn't have the same input impedance issues as a Fuzz Face because it has more transistor stages, for simplicity just think of it as a Fuzzy Distortion pedal. A good rule of thumb is that the more a fuzz cleans up when you roll off the guitar volume the more likely it will be adversely affected by having other pedals in front of it.
Any thoughts on where to place the EHX attack/decay? It is (sort of) a volume pedal, as you can simulate attack decay envelopes by rocking a volume pedal, but the EHX has a built in distortion (I think) circuit as well. Thoughts? Or should I just try stuff?
For what it’s worth, I use my Attack/Decay in the very first position (and keep the sensitivity knob pretty high), and then into a Keeley Fuzz Bender. Because the A/D doesn’t have a buffer, the Fuzz Bender works great for me.
you guys are becoming so much better at presenting these videos. You have found your own voices (instead of replicating josh) and have become amazing because of it!
The hard clipping of the Rat makes it different among Distortions, and is why it works well at the end.If you hit a lot of Distortions with a clipped , pushed signal, it will choke out in a not good way.Traditionally, the 808 is a clean booster and EQ when run last. I def started looking at the circuit TYPE ,versus anything else, choosing pedals, especially when intended for a certain order.Compressor circuits are a great example, as are Reverbs -,before, vs. post , Drives.Verbs and Delays can behave much differently depending on if they are hitting, or being hit. I think Howard , that once worked with Caitlinbread, was one of the first to really consider placement and staging.In his older videos, he addresses vintage, built in effects, especially in relation to the original Marshall and Fender amp designs. Buffer placement is another crucial ball of wax, with it's own set of variables.They can really add value, or cause problems. Nice guitar work; played like the percussion instrument it began as.
How refreshing to see an episode without Josh. Guy was getting on my nerves…😉 Are either of you familiar with Frank Marino? Way back in the dark ages (late ‘70’s), he had an ENORMOUS pedalboard. It was enormous because there were a lot of duplicate pedals at various points in the signal chain. When asked why he had so many pedals, his response was that the order in the chain made a big difference on the sound. He had it all figured out way before most other musicians. He essentially had a giant manual pedal matrix. He was “Just Trying Stuff” way back then. Anyways, thanks for tackling a subject I’ve been waiting years to have tackled. Never really seen Josh use more than 2 pedals at a time, so this was way overdue.
So what I take from this is, that I need two of every pedal. and mirror the set up in the middle, so that I have everything before and after everything :D
I know this is a 7mo video but y'all talking about compression and where to put it, and then bringing up the KoT as an example is the first time I've ever understood where I want my compressor. Before it was just "I guess here...???" But I never liked it. Now it's in the perfect spot and I couldn't be happier
Firstly, nice shirt Qbert! 2nd... drove 200 miles to see Deep Sea Diver in Vail yesterday, 100% fo sho can recommend, will try again. Tres: Practiced with my band using 2x50w nutube technology through 2 4x12 cabs, using my recently updated stereo pedal chain. Gonna try swapping the Mimiq for the HOF2 at end of chain tomorrow. Barry Obama (fender bari tele) and Deb Gibson (gibson sg1) for anyone interested. Just try stuff and you'll find that life is aight.
“Just try stuff”-yes Sometimes the order that sounds best changes Solo guitar? Band? Style? It’s fun to play around with order. I like distortion before & after wah So have distortion before wah & after And use one. Or the other or both
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"Tsunami Blues" is the doom metal jam I needed this afternoon.
I'm pleased to see the comment recognitiing Tsunami Blues awesomeness was not hard to find.
Neil Young would be proud
A certified killer tune!
Sounds like early Soundgarden
That outro solo was life-changing. I will never look at a guitar or patch cable the same way again.
Tsunami Blues is un-ironically my favorite jam you guys have ever done. It transcended…something…
At first I was like, "Oh cool, it's a Nick episode!" And then I was like, "Ohhhhh!! It's a Nick AND Addison episode!!"
Nick: adorably and lovingly nerding out about pedals
Addison: *yep*
"Understanding pedal order"
"Do whatever just put the fuzz first"
Unless it's muff fuzz
thats some pretty bad advice tbh
@@theonlycaamz Depends on the fuzz.
@@jsullivan2112 true
Nope I love delaying my fuzz.
I tried to talk myself out of this and I just can't. A reverb first jam with the cable in your mouth is pure genius.
one of the best episodes ever! Thank you Josh giving space and opportunities to your employees
Today I learned: What Nick sounds like at the start of the chain.
(Solid 6/10. I'm looking for one on reverb now.)
Did Nick have to buy and take home mouth cable?
@@thenextkurt these are the facts I need in my life
These guys actually have the charisma and humor that all the other content providers try to imitate. Probably because they’re not only content providers. More from Nick and Addison. Even loved the yams.
Looks like there is no Boss today
How did this fly so under the radar for two years... Brilliant.
😂😂😂😂
@huseynguitar4676, I hate to break this to ya but there is a boss trem.
@@MrVesperatuthey meant Josh
@@jamesonfinnigan628 but it was also a pun
Having reverb both at first and at the end is the best thing I've ever done with my board.
The Pedal Zone did a very cool video about it
Gross
Super wet toan
@@gregmize01 Just try stuff
That’s probably my favorite thing about my board.
@@gregmize01 the only upload on your channel is a butt rock music video. Why would anyone want your opinion?
The first minute of JHS videos is deeply satisfying. Thanks for all the work y’all.
....and then me and my boy finished off the rest of the video and now he’s running around the house trying stuff.
That Jimi Hendrix moment at 15:50 transformed this already great
episode into a total brain melting „Nick and Addison Experience“ 🙀
I literally thought doing that would electrocute you 💀💀
What's that !? Someone explain to me ! I don't understand what the hell happened
@@johnf.r6658i think he just yanked on the guitar cord to make the amp scream lol
Nick is like a small clone of Josh, every now and then I can hear Josh's voice when Nick talks.
Josh is the full size pedal, and Nick is the mini.
& Addison is the crappy Amazon made in China generic wanna be clone.... it comes with a sick pic of Jeff Bezos doing the Dr. Evil pinky finger on it though.... so yeah
I was getting vibe too. Thought it was just me.
Yeah hearing these two pelicans talk I can definitely see why they work for josh….
True, and I can't unhear it now haha
That Tsunami Blues jam was pretty badass. I love the Tom Morello-esque move unplugging the cable to make noise. 🤘
This is easily one of the best JHS show videos I've ever seen. You all killed it and the jams were awesome.
How is it that everyone on this channel is a gifted multi-instrumentalist?
You guys all rock on guitar, bass, drums and I assume at this point probably didgeridoo and theremin.
I know you have families, I know you have jobs... when do y’all find the time?
I barely manage to suck on guitar.
BTW - when do we get the “Do pedals work on jazz pan flute” episode?
You could try sucking on the cable as shown in the video, but it's a really metal move. Like, you might want to be aware of any metal you may be touching before attempting it.
Super musical people with a very obvious love for music and the technology thar goes with music.
to be good at music, you have to be able to listen to the other instruments. After you're good at that is much easier to learn other instruments. It doesn't take much immediate time. It's more of a question of access to other instruments. 10 min of drums today. 15 min of bass tomorrow. Eventually you get decent. And each new instrument adds more understanding to your previous instruments too. It's a journey :p
In my own experience, it's easier to learn another instrument after you've already picked up one. I can actually sit down at a piano and play sort of okay after learning guitar.
@@charlesrense5199 - Yea man. Totally. As a drummer i taught myself to play bass because:
1) As you said, i already went through the process of learning an instrument.
2) i knew how the bass parts were supposed to sound cause that's what i'm focused on locking in with as a drummer, and i'd watched enough bass players i'd played with.
It's official 15:50 is the greatest moment in JHS history.. #sorryNOTsorryJOSH
…and possibly music history.
Surprised Pitchfork hasn’t written about it yet. It’s 2024 now. Where is it Pitchfork?!
This show really makes me want to play more and I’m very grateful it exists.
There was a jam maybe a couple of weeks ago, maybe a month ago, I'm not really sure, but what I do remember is the jam was so intense and brutal that Addison's hair moved, and it was very inspiring.🤘
“Addison, the biggest, giantest pedal nerd I know.”
I take that as Nick not really knowing Josh deep down inside.
Maybe we really don't know Addison?
I literally laughed out loud.
I guarantee this isn't the last we've heard about this😂 I can see the next video's title now... "JHS, & how I'm not the greatest pedal nerd Nick knows, despite having all the boxes!"
@@JeighNeither I can already smell the passive aggression.
I took that as a passive agro jab at Addi
That jam at 4:30 was GLORIOUS!!!
actually, all the jams are GLORIOUS!!!
EQ pedals and boost pedals can go just about anywhere.
Oh and get a transparent buffer and put it right after the Wah. Fuzz, Univibe and Wah probably won’t play well with a buffer before them, but a good buffer makes a difference once you’ve got more than 4 or 5 pedals.
Overdrive before distortion sounded more modern and like it could be used in more songs. Distortion before drive felt like a throwback to 80s metal.
cmiiw but jp also uses that order to get the chug chug
Nicely recorded, guys - could hear the kick and bass clearly even on my earbuds that don't pass anything under 500Hz. Cool jams too.
I’m honestly amazed. I could hear the kick and bass on my (very old) built-in phone speakers
Drums sounded like they were put through a compressor and a reverb......
RUclips compress everything...
Look up something called "psychoacoustics" and how the brain fills in missing information when it comes to audio. Fascinating topic.
People living for their passions....humanity can learn from JHS. You guys have HEART
Shoegaze: delays, reverbs, reverse reverbs, chorus, whatever before fuzz ❤️
As long as it's a Big Muff
If there was a reverse fuzz (whatever the hell that means) they would use it too
@@abcrx32j you mean a Zzuf? Why doesn't anybody make that?
I believe that Josh needs to get to work on that post haste
Fuzz before fuzz
This is my favorite RUclips video. It’s got everything. Laughter. Knowledge. Sadness. Laziness. Science. Short sleeves. Literally everything.
One of my favorite sounds is a delay before distortion. You can turn the mix down low and make the repeats get cleaner as they go, and if you do that and turn the delay speed down to like 20ms, you get a pretty neat pseudo-doubletrack effect. JUST TRY STUFF!
When he started chewing on the guitar cable.... it was just magic.... are words I never thought I'd type! Great video guys!
This is gods work boys. You two kept the vibe of the channel and gave it a nice flavor. Been watching the channel for years and this was a very fresh and fun episode. Although, Josh is still the master of hosting music content!
This has quickly become my favorite music channel on RUclips.
You dudes get wild when poppa Josh isn't around. I like it.
This was extremely refreshing to see different hosts. Pls continue to do this🥺
But if Addison is there, WHO"S PLAYING BASS!?!
I'm doing it, but I'm not there and not recorded
Nosferatu! 😏
Josh obviously
Ghost bass
John Paul James?
Great work y'all! My whole life is switching pedals around, so it's always nice to hear how other people arrange things.
When Nick went full Godzilla and put the cable in his mouth I lost it. Lol. Great episode.
Definitely using "Stampede Earthquake" as the opening music to my apocalyptical space western. But "Tsunami Blues" over the end credits of the smoking ruins of the planet. Well done.
Sounds sooo sick!!!!! The sound tracks gotta have some super spring reverb drippy the shadows esk, surf/spaghetti Western music.
So much fun! More Nick/Addison videos please!
Nick --- you really hit this out of the park. You are really growing into the job of hosting.
As sad as I am to miss my Friday dose of josh, nick and Addison killed it. Would love to see an episode of Addison building a pedalboard.
In the episode "building a pedalboard against the clock" Addison is the one leading the charge helping Nick put it all together. If you havent seen it, it may scratch that itch for ya!
That's only fans material
That reverb first jam with the cable in the teeth was the best jam this channel has ever seen! Gonna do that tonight. Then see the dentist.
Real life Bert & Ernie, you guys are awesome.
I'm gonna watch it again, that was funny.
Addison's drum face is epic 🤣
"Tsunami Blues" may be the best jam of the channel
Great episode, thank you. The jam with the HOF more up front was pretty spectacular. I use the Meteore for that kind of thing occasionally. I twist around my “orders” a bit, or quite a bit, but tried and true is always a pretty good fallback when “just try stuff” leads to the wrong kind of musical disasters.
You guys rock! I've never seen the technique before where the player pulls the cable out and inserts the end of the cable into the mouth to produce monster feedback without electrocuting oneself. Then again when performance complexities present themselves remember the sacred mantra "JUST TRY STUFF"
*can be a bit zappy and tingly like a 9 volt battery, at least it is when I tried it but usually isn't that dangerous......
Really dig that Deep Sea Diver album!! Great guitar/synth sounds. Great songwriting. Great melodies. Great lyrics. Just rad all around!
Jessica Dobson is extremely under rated. I first saw her on a show called "From the Basement" when she was playing for The Shins.........my gawwwwd the whole show I was saying "who is this mysterious woman bending time, space, and sound". She was off in her own corner with her amp at waist level using her body to control and manipulate feedback.
So much good on this channel. My favorite gear-head channel by far! These guys (and Josh, of course) are a wonderful team for inspiring creativity in your setup- “Here’s how the rules work, no go have fun and break’em!”
Oh, and on the subject of messing around with rules…
I actually wanted a little “doom” in my more percussive and tight “Jones-esque” setup. So I run a EHX Op-amp Big Muff in parallel with my VH4 pedal, Pod X3 (running Rectifier and Uberschall paths in parallel/Dual Tone mode, sans FX) and DSL20 head. The POD, VH4, and Muff all run into a solid state power amp and add an ungodly bass response to the tight, mid-focused Marshall. I tried the Muff up front before my FX, but it just sounded too good on its own. It stays tight, but really blooms with varied attack. I’m kind of a cretin when it comes to FX, because I run everything up front - you know, like they did in the days before effects loops. Hell, I figure it worked then, and as long as my effects are not really over the top, it should work now. But for boosts and extra gain I have Cloned Centaur and a Plumes, although I dig the 3-series fuzz, so I may add that too. It may sound convoluted, or wrong in any number of ways, but it achieves the tone I’ve been chasing in my head for 25 years.
This is info-tainment at the highest level. You would make great teachers.
This is such a lovely episode. More Addison and Nick content please!
On this channel, literally everyone involved is cool!
Even the viewers....
I watched a bunch of videos on understanding peral order, and then I just tried stuff! I liked the adaptive distortion before the overdrive, but then the RAT after the overdrive. Distortion -> Overdirve -> Distortion
Nick always looks like he is in Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou
Willem Dafoe’s character’s son! Nick definitely rocks the beanie look.
Has anyone ever seen Nick without a hat of some sort?
Nah. He looks like Kip from Napoleon Dynamite.
@@jspartacus loll
Yes!
15:45 represents a turning point in my life!
I've had a lot of fun "messing up" pedal order. Flipping Fuzz and OD is fun to mess with, gotta love the squeals
Love, love, love these videos. Production value is always superb. Variety of musical genres are alway diverse. Lighthearted humour is much appreciated. No shortage of wisdom to impart. Bravo, JHS.
This was the coolest episode so far, definitely putting my delay before my drive
When you use a hot channeled amp, your delay is always before, makes sense and sounds great
Great Job guys ! Love the new format . For those that havent heard Josh has moved to his private Island in the Caribbean. Its worth mentioning , On a neighboring Island Josh has a 50,000 sg ft warehouse that is completely filled with Original Klons and Mig 50's . ... Back to boards , I Too have done the Just try stuff thing and ended up liking "the traditional order " ,with my current pedals . Love the show guys ,Thanks !
I remember an old "music is win" video where in the end we could see a "stupid guitarist" using delay before distortion. This thing pissed me off. Finally some famous guitar nerds declaring that delay before dist is not an error, it's a choice.
I guess what goes with music theory in general works with pedal order too. Conventions are written down common practice, not hard rules. If you find something that sounds good, maybe some day it will become part of the common practice.
Pedal order can depend on your setup anyway. For example I have amp in the middle (I just love the Marshall sound), so I have to be quite careful putting anything that raises the volume after the amp. I did figure out by trial and error though that putting distortion pedal in the effects loop will get character of the pedal more up front.
What sounds good is somewhat subjective though, so the "just try stuff" mantra is good. Just remember to start with something sensible, so you won't get totally lost.
I was most impressed by delay in front of overdrive, more than i ever thought i would be. I will be implementing this ASAP 😊
Thanks! Before this I ended up having the guitar at the end of the chain, the amp in the middle and pedals at the beginning. Funny enough. I had the fuzz first 👍🏻
Trem before drive! My favourite combo ❤️ I love how not only the volume but also the drive amount changes with the trem.
Tremelo at the end = deeper/more obvious tremelo. When it's before the Reverb and Delay, the Reverb and Delay can fill in the gaps from the trem.
Tremelo at the end also means your reverb tails have the tremelo effect on them. It's weird at first but because of Fender Blackface amps, people are actually pretty used to the sound of trem after verb.
TremOlo
@@liarsconspiracy TremendOlous
Great episode! Lots of stuff to just try. My usual pedal order is totally different from your baseline: wah -> envelope filter -> POG -> fuzz (Farm Pedals Sweet Leaf - doesn't squeal) -> compressor -> lite overdrive -> univibe (Mojo Hand Lunavibe - doesn't squeal) -> heavy overdrive -> trem -> delay. I'll have to move things around and test out some new orders.
@@kingsecho3351 reverb + delay in the same pedal. Keeley Cavern.
@@kingsecho3351 haha! I’m not one to talk. Mine’s not much better.
Addison’s rolled shorts is a bad example of “just try stuff”. Just kidding. Cheers! Another great episode!
I really enjoyed this episode. After a few months of trying stuff, I came up with my -current- signal chain: guitar + overdrive + fuzz + wah + distortion + chorus + amp (with delay and reverb). No specific pedal names so you can experiment with your own.
There is clearly a row of about 8 visible Klon Centaurs in the background while Nick and Addison are jamming. Want to sell one? 😁 Love you guys.
Also, I will be putting my delay in front of my overdrive from this point on.
I never thought of chewing on the guitar cable until now. Brilliant! It sounds so good.
This was awesome. This old man who is quickly becoming sick of everyone and everything was like a little kid watching the best thing ever. You two hit it out of the park. Downside is now everything else in the whole world sucks!
Finally a "Just Try Stuff" stinger! "What Sounds Good is Good" needs to be next
I always thought my fuzz into OD sounded like garbage, thought maybe it was the pedals. Then I tried switching it and it sounds so good. Right now i am playing with this, Tape Delay > OD > Fuzz > Fuzz > Wah > Dist > Spinning Speaker > Chorus > Analog Delay > Reverb > Digital Delay > Reverb. Anytime I get a new pedal I try it in various spots in the chain, see how it all flows.
Glad to see i'm not the only one who doesn't put fuzz first. After a lot of testing I realized I prefer to put my wah, vibe and od before my JHS minifoot (which I believe is a silicon fuzz face type). The «fuzz first» rule must depend on what type of fuzz you're using...
Amazing episode! Y’all killed it. When I first started watching this show I was not a huge fan of Addison. I just felt like he was a stick in the mud personality wise. I have been watching this show for sometime about a year, and I have to say I understand more of his personality towards the audience, and I have come to enjoy his presence more on the show in the last three months. I don’t mean to offend by any stretch I am just being honest. I think the changing point for me is when he took over Nick while he was on baby leave and his true personality showed through as an entertainer. This episode just proves my point even further. I try really not to judge anyone especially if you haven’t walked in there shoes, but I must say Addison has proved me wrong on my first impressions. Thought I would share that and say what an amazing episode probably one of my favorites.
The order of overdrive, distortion and booster is going to depend so much on what pedals. I have found so many cut a bunch of high end which sometimes works and other times makes it sound small depending on what the pedal is meant to be doing and the amp.
I personally tend to do my distortion after overdrive and then compression after that usually but don’t tend to stack gain pedals with eachother and mostly stack them in to a clean/breaking up/dirty amp depending what I’m doing. The exception to not stacking gain pedals is boosting my fuzzes up to sit better in a mix. I also do tremolo after reverb/delay. I also typically put wah after all my gain but *sometimes* put it after my delay.
I just tried stuff and this is what I have ultimately settled on.
Great show guys! You made tons of excellent just-try-stuff points! (I tried TC ElectronicS in front of Tore...it didn't work, Wurds is Hard!!!)
Dang! Most epic chewing-on-the-cable jam ever!
I always put Distortion after Overdrive. And I preferred the sound of it here. Although in my case, I don't actually have a "distortion" pedal. I use a Fuzz and put it after my overdrive. It's a big muff, not a fuzz face. So it's okay that it's not first.
But yeah low-gain into high-gain sounds way better to me.
Ive been experimenting with this lately too. I have long had the lower drive before the higher drive and even after all the comments saying otherwise find the lower first to be better to my ears.
how can it be that the building has retained its structural integrity rather than simply collapsing under the sheer weight of how awesome this is?
and most importantly, how can it be possible that I've been subscribed to this channel for as long as I have and NEVER SEEN EITHER OF THESE TWO HUMANS SPEAK?! Like I've been watching these two play bass and drums for a goddamn millennia by now what the actual hell
Nick and Addison are AWESOME together! I am curious as to why y’all chose Muff style fuzzes for go after the dirt and not at the beginning but best believe I am going to try it when I get my Muffaleta
The song at 15:50 was so damn good, I’m genuinely blown away
Wish they would've talked about overdrives into a muff, or why a muff doesn't need to be at the front of the chain
Good question.
Muff doesn't have the same input impedance issues as a Fuzz Face because it has more transistor stages, for simplicity just think of it as a Fuzzy Distortion pedal. A good rule of thumb is that the more a fuzz cleans up when you roll off the guitar volume the more likely it will be adversely affected by having other pedals in front of it.
Dang. The entire JHS crew are really talented.
Interesting to see that Addison pulls different faces when playing drums than what he does when playing bass
Thanks for lifting the heavy burden of pedal ordering! Cheers Addison and Nick!!
Any thoughts on where to place the EHX attack/decay? It is (sort of) a volume pedal, as you can simulate attack decay envelopes by rocking a volume pedal, but the EHX has a built in distortion (I think) circuit as well. Thoughts? Or should I just try stuff?
For what it’s worth, I use my Attack/Decay in the very first position (and keep the sensitivity knob pretty high), and then into a Keeley Fuzz Bender. Because the A/D doesn’t have a buffer, the Fuzz Bender works great for me.
So tempted to say stick it yer butt. Lol 😆 just try stuff!!
you guys are becoming so much better at presenting these videos. You have found your own voices (instead of replicating josh) and have become amazing because of it!
Wait: who is playing bass? Ghost bassist!
The hard clipping of the Rat makes it different among Distortions, and is why it works well at the end.If you hit a lot of Distortions with a clipped , pushed signal, it will choke out in a not good way.Traditionally, the 808 is a clean booster and EQ when run last.
I def started looking at the circuit TYPE ,versus anything else, choosing pedals, especially when intended for a certain order.Compressor circuits are a great example, as are Reverbs -,before, vs. post , Drives.Verbs and Delays can behave much differently depending on if they are hitting, or being hit.
I think Howard , that once worked with Caitlinbread, was one of the first to really consider placement and staging.In his older videos, he addresses vintage, built in effects, especially in relation to the original Marshall and Fender amp designs.
Buffer placement is another crucial ball of wax, with it's own set of variables.They can really add value, or cause problems.
Nice guitar work; played like the percussion instrument it began as.
How refreshing to see an episode without Josh. Guy was getting on my nerves…😉
Are either of you familiar with Frank Marino? Way back in the dark ages (late ‘70’s), he had an ENORMOUS pedalboard. It was enormous because there were a lot of duplicate pedals at various points in the signal chain. When asked why he had so many pedals, his response was that the order in the chain made a big difference on the sound. He had it all figured out way before most other musicians. He essentially had a giant manual pedal matrix. He was “Just Trying Stuff” way back then.
Anyways, thanks for tackling a subject I’ve been waiting years to have tackled. Never really seen Josh use more than 2 pedals at a time, so this was way overdue.
Great job, guys. This is becoming one of the best guitar channels on youtube.
'you see your Dad's old pedals'....how did your Dad use a Strymon Blue Sky pedal? That thing cam out in 2010...are you a 12 year old in this story?
Way to catch a joke.
At first I thought the Just Try Stuff thing was hilarious, then it started to annoy me, and then it came back around and now I love it again.
So that's what today's guitar players and drummers look like ?
Entertainment Value: Solid B-.
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Take a lap.
I was like "oh no it's not the other guy" when I clicked on the video; but yall so entertaining it won me over 😂
So what I take from this is, that I need two of every pedal. and mirror the set up in the middle, so that I have everything before and after everything :D
sounds about right
I know this is a 7mo video but y'all talking about compression and where to put it, and then bringing up the KoT as an example is the first time I've ever understood where I want my compressor. Before it was just "I guess here...???" But I never liked it. Now it's in the perfect spot and I couldn't be happier
Firstly, nice shirt Qbert!
2nd... drove 200 miles to see Deep Sea Diver in Vail yesterday, 100% fo sho can recommend, will try again.
Tres: Practiced with my band using 2x50w nutube technology through 2 4x12 cabs, using my recently updated stereo pedal chain. Gonna try swapping the Mimiq for the HOF2 at end of chain tomorrow. Barry Obama (fender bari tele) and Deb Gibson (gibson sg1) for anyone interested.
Just try stuff and you'll find that life is aight.
That fuzz jam had a really nice feel! Nick’s playing was right back and sounded awesome!
“Just try stuff”-yes
Sometimes the order that sounds best changes
Solo guitar?
Band?
Style?
It’s fun to play around with order.
I like distortion before & after wah
So have distortion before wah & after
And use one. Or the other or both