The most OVERRATED bands?? (Mr Bungle, Weezer, Radiohead & more)
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- Опубликовано: 27 июн 2023
- The most OVERRATED bands of all time? Are Mr Bungle, Radiohead, Weezer, Death Grips, Weezer and Motorhead overrated?
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Hey man when is the incel music compass part 3 coming😅??
Great channel, but MAN!!! Some of the music you like vs dislike??? WOW! We could not be on more opposite ends of the spectrum… 🤷🏻♂️
RADIOHEAD!? Blasphemy… (Although I will admit, “King of Limbs” and “Moon Shape Pool” were just whining, and I did not enjoy either record…)
Most overrated bands:
1.Metallica
2.Rammestein
3.bring me the horizon
I’m on the line with the Beastie’s. After finding out about their initial punk beginnings, I do give props to their overall musical arch. Up until sabotage and intergalactic. It does come as a decent evolution. Not a huge fan, but definitely respect it. Coming from a fan of hardcore metal and hardcore rap.
i see that you have chosen violence, finn
and by violence i mean the most unbearable comment section imaginable in exchange for high engagement. slow transition to a red ball cap? 😂
@@insulartombpeople that can’t step beside themselves and feel the need to defend these bands as if the members are their family members and not complete strangers
Except when it involves Dan Frampton
I SEE YOU CHOOSIN' DA HAWD WAY
👉🏿👌🏻
@@TheCondorjcha dan Frampton. I'm more of a Pat Finnerty guy myself.
I love finn because he has some of the worst takes but also some of the best takes at the same time
It truly is mesmerizing
That's kinda perfectly well put
Completely agree. Sometimes my mind is boggled at his takes but some really are brutally honest and spot on.
Completely agree. Radiohead is an incredible band that has been very influential. To call them overrated is a very ignorant take.
@@elliotpytosky7722Naw the Radiohead take is extremely accurate, and their fans are insufferable 😭. Dudes swear Ok Computer and Kid A are the 2nd coming of christ, when OK Computer is literally just Alt Rock.
You may hate the Mr Bungle debut album but that album is the reason Korn and Slipknot even exist
I love mr bungle so much mr bungle literally created the earth and everyone on the planet without mr bungle we’d all be dead mr bungle is life
Reason to hate it
Well that's a proper reason to despise them, isn't it?
'Mr Bungle' sounds like some 1980s kids' TV character from off the BBC.
Sure, Kate. I'm sure without some weird quirky band nobody likes, 2 of the most famous bands of all time wouldn't exist 😂
@@atomdecay Both bands have stated in interviews that they were initially inspired by Mr Bungle. Head from Korn literally calls the tritone chord they play at the beginning of Blind the "Bungle Chord." Also listen to Do Nothing (Bitchslap) off of Sliplnot's Mate Feed Kill Repeat.
It's quite easy: If you don't like a certain band, you consider it as overrated. If you like a certain band, you consider it as underrated.
I agree that that is the case often and here as well, because the pretence that if it's not weird enough therefore it must be overrated clearly is utter bs.
First my hero Finn shat upon my internalized identity of Deftones...now crushes my Mr. Bungle childhood. But I keep coming back...I keep coming back. I need to hear these things...this is healthy.
this sounds like an abusive relationship
We all have hate towards something, Finn hates Motorhead and Deftones.
It's not healthy... this guy obviously doesn't know what he's talking about, his opinion is not relevant at all, keep to your own.
No, these are just his opinions, not facts.
Enjoy what you want and make your own opinion about music.
I can feel the atmosphere trembling as Fantano furiously cycles towards Finn's current location.
One of the funniest Fantano reviews I've ever seen was his Knocked Loose one, where he kept comparing them to Converge because you know that's the only metalcore band he can bring himself to acknowledge is good and would probably rather die than acknowledge he likes something that's clearly influenced by deathcore or 00s metalcore.
I have agreed with both actually. Still Finn actually likes pop punk (US pop punk in particular is terrible, very annoying and something I did not even like as a teenager) and near butt rock metalcore from the 2000s. Someone said it well that Finn sometimes seems to have the taste of a teenager from 2008. His criteria for "good" seems to be very bipolar of either getting annoyed at music that is not for moshing or just going very stupid and liking very pop crap or mall pop punk with their annoying whiny voices and complaining about life in the suburbs in the US. Nevertheless I do agree that Radiohead is not cool anymore now although I did enjoy some of the tracks from The Smile album. In general I do respect Fantano more than Finn´s taste but of course Finn´s videos are ones to go if you are a metalhead or into hardcore (although Banger seems to me are really deep metalheads while Finn just gets stuck with mallcore crap from the 2000s). Now if you really like innovative or great underground stuff go to the UK website The Quietus where you will get in their best albums of the year lists very avant garde or underground stuff. They seem to have no commercial interests at all and so they really just champion what they really like no matter how unpopular it is while Fantano and Finn have to do videos for a profit that often come very stupid and even Pitchfork often gets very pop stupid and now particularly with their new owners
Motorhead in terms of no-nonsense rock are one of the best, Lemmy stuck to what he knew and it worked, but yeah you can't really say they're any greater than that because of the lack of musical progression/innovation. Other bands took from Motorhead and developed the sound but in terms of attitude, Lemmy is the GOAT - truly didn't give a fuck
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Motorhead aren't as one track as some seem to think.
@@ghost_mallI like the idea of the band but not music, I totally understand what your saying and Motorhead is a great example of that
Motörhead have a bigger variety of sound than AC/DC or even Ramones - even having a few eras
@@arejaycee5704 Yeah, "1916" isn't what most people imagine when they think Motorhead
Thinking Radiohead isn't great is pretty much not an option if you appreciate music. There's a reason musicians love Radiohead. They are great for the exact reason you don't like them. You think they're fake weird. People who understand songwriting and experimentation realise they're walking a fine line that everyone else hopes to walk. They can fuck with time signatures, use syncopation, use instruments and effects in creative ways, use unexpected chord progressions, delve into different genres, while still writing catchy songs that still sound like Radiohead. And have you heard their production on some of their records?
I know this sounds super condescending, and maybe I'm totally wrong, but most musicians I bet would agree Radiohead is hard to not at least appreciate. It's not everyone's cup of tea, but your take is just weird because being avant-garde while being mainstream is the hardest thing to pull off. And why is weird necessarily better? Don't get me wrong, I love some experimental music, but I appreciate sophisticated song writing that carves out a catchy song even more. Why is being into "weird" music gatekeeping if it's easier to make weird non-catchy music?
Stop trying to outhipster hipsters. Hipsters suck, but they have pretty good taste.
if you really love high quality music you have to respect radiohead
Exactly. Finn has such goofy opinions
@@nativeswagho5213The man say’s Radiohead is bland, and loves LIMP BIZKIT. ONE OF THE WORST BANDS OF THE 2000S!!!
EXACTLY!
@@raythepretentiousnerd he is not very smart guy
The thing with Death Grips is that they came out in a very specific era. While their sound may not be as fresh now, keep in mind that The Money Store came out in 2012, where basically nothing sounded like it, it was a pretty unique sound at the time and even today, and in many ways, predictive of the next 10 years of internet culture and music.
And I really don't think I agree with them being "fake weird" when they released things like Fellas On The Moon, Steroids, Gmail and the Restraining Order and Year Of The Snitch, albums that are legimitely bizarre and weird.
He doesn't know any of those songs because he doesn't really know what he's talking about dude and doesn't care, I wouldn't take these videos so seriously.
Finn tryna claim they fake weird, meanwhile I got a album with a p*nis on it that I gotta hide from visitors 😄
Yeah it’s clear Finn hasn’t actually listened to Death Grips beyond a single or two. He just knows they have a rabid fan base and this will drive up engagement. Look. Even I’m here.
this is obvious rage bait. he uses a random song that he finds of them, he uses stereotypes of them and the fans, and he doesn't talk about music/production
@@ghost_mall That wasn't his point. His point was that they are "fake weird" and that they aren't that interesting, which is just patently untrue. What sounds good and what doesn't is completely dependent to the listener and their taste. You not liking it doesn't make it bad, the world doesn't revolve around you.
It's just an immature and weightless criticism.
I wouldn't say Radiohead are overrated at all, they do have a really solid discography
Yeah but they get stanned so hard.
@@ChristopherJames1993 They definitely have some of the most annoying fans. I do think they are great, but personally I think Thom Yorke is an overrated vocalist. I would much rather listen to some Jonny Craig fronted DGD and Emarosa albums.
I do agree with that
"solid"
@@soysaucehairdye7869 Thom Yorke is also amongst the most pretentious assholes in music which I found off putting. Some really good tracks in their catalogue but kind of hard to love them because it means validating Mr Yorke and his army of insufferable fans
"Overrated" is the most overused and useless word out there.
Winner
That's why he typed it in all caps...
*The word “very” has entered the chat*
Saying Mr Bungle is overrated is inaccurate, ppl never even heard of them ever
Finn went from making in depth videos about marketing in the music industry to centering all his content around triggering hipsters like me. And I'm here for it.
Yep! Nobody cared about my business videos so I stopped making them
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA Do you have any masterclasses or similar? Do your Patreon offerings kind of function like that already?
Personally, I think all the content you make is useful and informative. It's how I'm passively learning about the industry while I focus my work in other areas for now. Thanks for keeping on top of shit, I know it's a lot of work. I appreciate you.
Radiohead's the Bends and Ok Computer are two of the best albums of the 90s.
EASILY
Never really thought of Radiohead as all that weird.. but like you, I'm a Gen Xer who's listened to quite a bit of music from all over the spectrum for years.
But *hard* to say the band that made Paranoid Android, Karma Police, High & Dry, Just and There There "sucks"
Okay but Radiohead is actually amazing though
i cannot believe he ranked weezer ovee radiohead 😭
You can say what you want about Mr.Bungle but you can’t say that Mike Patton is trash when he’s literally a walking soundboard that has mastered every sound and vocal note known to man
Autism
@@sludgerat666 what does autism have to do with anything 😂
@@Caring570 Mike probably is on the spectrum tbh
Finn’s characterization of Radiohead as bland is bizarre. They’re rich from a music theory and textural standpoint, plus Yorke has a singularly beautiful voice
Punks are dumb that’s why they like punk.
Yes, it's almost as if he's just generalising like fuck over a hazy drunken recollection of coming across them once or twice while channel surfing 25 years ago and hasn't listened critically to any of their stuff, and doesn't care because low-effort snarky hot takes make for efficient content.
Objectively terrible band, unbelievable people even defend it
@@ThatShitGood "objectively" headlined Glastonbury on several occasions.
@@ThatShitGoodstop trolling, you are all over the place and write the same stuff
My opinion on weird music is that if you're going to be weird, you don't need to go fully off the deep end. For example, Radiohead. In the wide landscape of Avant-Garde music, Radiohead is not that weird. That doesn't mean their music isn't good. I think the members of Radiohead would agree that they do not make the weirdest music possible. Titles like that should go to bands such as Throbbing Gristle and The Gerogerigegege. But just because their music is more accessible than Avant-Garde, it doesn't mean they make bad music. Of course music is subjective, but calling an artist bad because they aren't 'weird enough' is a pretty lame justification. Also, Radiohead making Avant-Garde accessible probably got a lot of people into the Experimental music scene, and that's a win in my eyes. Also, just because it came up, Sepultura and the Circle Jerks would not have existed if not for The Stooges and Television. (Also, you're tripping Finn. Aphex Twin was MAD influential. Here's a list of people influenced by him: Korn, Tool, Red Hot Chili Peppers, 311, Madonna, Kylie Minogue, Frank Ocean, Kanye West, Travis Scott, Doja Cat, Daft Punk, Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, Skrillex, Radiohead, Bjork, Deadmau5, A$AP Rocky, Nine Inch Nails, JPEGMAFIA, Death Grips, Pharrell Williams, Flying Lotus, Nirvana/Dave Grohl, Calvin Harris, DJ Shadow, Arca, Vegyn, Iglooghost, Slowthai, Billie Eilish).
Also, as a Death Grips fan, I respect your opinion. Unsubscribing.
Wait, why is it important if Aphex Twin is influential? Why do you think influential and good are synonyms?
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA They aren't synonyms, I just heard you say in a different video that people "think he is influential." I wanted to share more information on his influence. I probably should have specified that in the comment, sorry if you were confused.
@@FinnMckentyPRMBAhis influence is a result of his creative and groundbreaking music,. When an artist innovates and fully changes the landscape of popular music, isn't that good?
your comment needs more text
Fifteen years ago, I would've agreed about Radiohead, but it was less that their music was overrated (it's not) and more that there was this peer pressure to *have* to love them. I've been revisiting their music lately and really appreciating it, especially OK Computer and in Rainbows (Weird Fishes is just 🥰)
And as a fan of Radiohead, I really don't like their work after In Rainbows, went too weird too fast.
Everything before, is pretty great.
@@bananaempijamaeven Moon Shaped Pool?
@@escottid even that. Maybe it's me, but they got way too much electronic for my taste.
@@bananaempijamaMoon shaped pool is less electronic than Kid A and Amnesiac
@@bananaempijamaMoon Shaped Pool doesnt really have much electronic tho
Radiohead exists in the space where they are experimental but also accessible. That’s a tough space to exist and be successful
Noone listens to Radiohead because they are wierd. It's like Tom Waits, they are kinda wierd, but when you listen to them you just find the beauty.
I feel like Finn would understand death grips more if he listened to exmilitary
@@ghost_mall There are a lot of bands whose most popular music isn't an accurate representation of their quality. For example, Weezer with Beverly Hills being one of their biggest hits, or for a more extreme example, The Beach Boys, who, at the peak of their creativity, were ignored by critics and fans. Telling someone that Kokomo isn't as good a starting point as Pet Sounds doesn't make Brian Wilson a hack. And to be honest I don't even think Death Grips have that issue, if you listen to say, Guillotine or Takyon you have a decent understanding of about 75% of their music's overall aesthetic, but if you refuse to listen to anything beyond the first song or album when it isn't a group's best work, you're missing out on a lot of amazing music.
@@ghost_mall Well you see that would be a very good point to make, but Finn never actually went through their discography and it's pretty easy to tell if you've watched his other video's.
@@ghost_mall Great response, not many people would respond this peacefully lol
I like that project. I am not the biggest Death Grips supporter, but they make pretty respectable music.
I don't really get the argument that an artist/band isn't good because they aren't "weird" enough? Like, sure, dg or radiohead aren't the most abstract or weird, but they can still be good. Some people like basic music, some people very experimental, so why couldn't something in the middle also be good? It's not like they try to claim that they are the most experimental outputs in the world.
I totally agree with you. Although some of those artists’ fans do claim it’s the most experimental thing in the world, which can be annoying
@@sawyerlachance1300 true, some semi-experimental artists fans tend to be insufferable
He doesn't get it either. He doesn't really understand what he's even talking about.
"Radiohead isn't experimental enough" then puts freakin Weezer in legend tier
The rerelease of Mr Bungle Raging Wrath of the Easter Bunny from 2020 is awesome. They brought on Scott Ian and Dave Lombardo to remake it.
You just dont like headphone music. You only like music you can put on at a party and noone will get offended
Did Finn just listen to Fitter Happier and Pulk/Pull from Radiohead? OK Computer and the Bends are amazing guitar rock. But perhaps too melodic/emotional for his taste.
Bro he loves " no doubt " 😂
This tells you everything you need to know
I’m one of those obnoxious Bungle Stans. The self-titled and California releases are amazing. DV is always a tough listen even to this day. They did get the appropriate placement on the board which surprised me considering Finn’s known “love” of all things Patton.
I love Disco Volante because it’s so out there and different than most music. Difficult listen at first for sure but it grew on me.
I’m not usually one to shit on someone’s music preferences but what in gods name was that garbage?😂 it just sounds like a number of different cartoon sounds mashed together. Please tell me how it’s listenable, let alone enjoyable lol
@@jakeworm4178 DV is really out there. It’s not really accessible. I still struggle with it 28 years later. The only reason I go back to it occasionally is try to figure it out. By occasionally I mean every several years. California is a good one to check out. A lot of several solid tracks. The best way I could describe it would be schizophrenic surf rock.
Bruh the basswork on their self titled album alone is legendary
@@jakeworm4178 Bro, just play it 10 times, THEN listen to it.......with a metronome.....and it'll all make sense.
These vids should be at least an hour long. I could listen to Finn evaluate music indefinitely! Extremely entertaining! Cheers Finn!
I could be wrong but I think the streams are longer, no?
I appreciate the two axes/four quadrants approach. Satisfied my rudimentary stats-geekiness 💻
I would love to see bands that are vastly underrated or who really deserve more credit, for me the big one the past few years was when i came across Cardiacs and the album Sing to God....for me personally hearing the songs Dirty boy, Fiery gun Hand, Dog like sparky were life changing to me and then when i checked out the back catalogue and some of the weird but still cool stuff
Cardiacs is so good! Sing To God is a great double album. A Little Man And A House And The Whole World Window has my fav Cardiacs tune Is This The life. Great album too. I also have two live albums. Live and All That Glitters Is A Mares Nest
@@petrirantanen I came across them in a Rage 2 video where they played a bit of the song i later learned was R.E.S and then looked for it...found it...then found more then went down the rabbit hole lol
Hahaha Fin like fking BMTH and Atilla hates 90s hop hop but likes Rap. He's no one to be talking about underated bands
Got turned on to Cardiacs for the first time earlier this year. A Little Man… is a pretty wild album.
Yes Cardiacs! What an astounding band. I discovered them about 10 years ago and they been my favorite band ever since. But yeah so underrated it's not even funny. I guess the fact they never signed to a major label means they flew under the radar a bit.
On Land and in the Sea is a masterpiece album on par with Sing to God.
Finn: “Death Grips is like fake edgy music”
Also Finn: *uses some of the most fake-edgy and shittiest sounding music to point to what “real” edgy is, aka goregrind/harsh noise*
Death grips fans in a nutshell.
@@moraesgabriel99 Apples and Oranges, I know all the names you quoted since 20 years ago but I don't see any correlation beetween, let's say, albert ayler, Pharoah Sanders and Death Grips, it simply doesn't make any sense. Just like doesn't make any sense comparing Morton Subotnick or Wendy Carlos to the "weirdness" of the Residents, Captain Beefheart or Frank Zappa. Your edgy dichotomy didn't exist in real life, even more because those "edgy" jazz musicians where often intrigued by pop music. Miles Davis was fascinated by james brown, the talking heads and Michael Jackson, Ornette Coleman praised an alternative band like The Violent Femmes, Philip Glass (one of the 4 fathers of minimalism) collaborated with Aphex Twin, Morricone with pet shop boys and I can continue for ages. This group A vs group B just lives in your mind, not in the mind of the artists you elevate as "real edgy".
Calm down much?
His take is still valid, Death Grips are boring mundane slop, they were shit then and they are shit now.
I really think that Radiohead is objectively great. They are def on the mainstream of niche, but what does that matter?
Exactly. Totally agree. I don't understand how Finn can crap on Radiohead and still be a huge Blink 182 fan 😅😂
Objectively terrible band with terrible music, like how can you listen to them and not roll into ground shaking from the cringe
Radiohead is the Coldplay from the 80's/90's.
@@ThatShitGood >cringe
opinion disregarded
Yeah if you play an instrument....you appreciate the writing is insane . The bass player is incredible, guitarist was doing stuff that ain't been heard before and Thom Yorke is a generational talent
As soon as I saw Radiohead, I knew Finn is gonna mention Havohej, He does it every time and I don't understand why? There's a lot of "weird" music besides Havohej. Also Radiohead's music is not even considered weird by their fans, and no one that I know of listen to them because of that. I don't get why he got so hung up on their "weirdness".
Totally agree. I never thought Radiohead tried to be "weird". They write great songs that are dynamic, and melodic
it's because he's weird and his arguments are weird
“Hell yes I’m gatekeeping”
>gate keeps music he doesn’t even listen to
Finn: Listen to Florida Georgia Line, nerds
also Finn: You’re a poser if you think Radiohead is alternative
yes. why waste time listening to bands who half-ass a load of elements when you can listen to the most melodic stuff or the most brutal stuff etc? why settle for mid?
Yes
Keeps me on my toes
@@insulartomb because music can be good for more than two reasons
@@insulartombwow, i never knew listening to music was about listening to "the most anything" out of anything
I think if you read a lot about a band before actually hearing them, it's definitely hard to jump into their music objectively. And that goes both ways. On the flip, I remember thinking that I'd never like The Grateful Dead because they're the "antithesis of punk" (i ended up like a fair bit of them), or thinking I'd hate all Pink floyd because "Johnny Rotten wore a shirt that said "I Hate Pink Floyd!". When you're kid and having an identity is important, it's easy to jump on those bandwagons until you become an adult and it's just ingrained in you to dislike certain bands for absolutely no reason.
On the flipside: I remember being so excited to finally hear the Replacements, then later on, Turbonegro. I've read so many amazing things about those bands and the way they were described, they seemed to line up perfectly with my tastes. To this day, I can name about a handful of songs by both bands that I actually enjoy, and I find the rest of them really boring.
Now comes my objective point:
When I first heard the Ramones, I had no idea what I was listening to. Absolutely no clue. They just counted "1-2-3-4" and went right into the song on the radio. I decided about 20 seconds in that it was the greatest thing I ever heard. They instantly became my favourite band of all time and that was 28 years ago now. So, when I hear anyone say "the Ramones are overrated", all I think is "no, you just got sick of reading about how great they were before you actually heard them". Bands like the Ramones deserve every ounce of credibility and respect they get.
(PS: I'm aware the Ramones weren't included in your list, but I heard many people say the Ramones are overrated).
Guess my point is that what constitutes "overrated" or "underrated" depends on a variety of things, including where you grew up, what kind of books/zines/magazines you randomly decided to read, what albums you decided to take a chance on, the attitudes of people you were surrounded by, etc.
@@bozhno Fair enough. To me the Ramones were like an amalgamation of rock'n'roll's earliest traits up to the point they formed. which would include everything from the earlier rockabilly 50s stuff (Elvis), the vocal girl groups (Ronettes), the British Invasion groups (Beatles), the bubblegum groups (Ohio Express), the harder-edge/louder groups (Sabbath), glam groups (Dolls, Sweet, etc).... then condensed all those influences (based on their own amateur musicianship) to basic barre chords and a 4/4 beat. I remember Tommy said in an interview that they just missed hearing those old short and simple pop songs and they wanted to bring that back and combine with a hard rock sound. It came out weird because they themselves were weird. Of course, I only really understood these things well after I heard them. I think I just heard them at a time in my life where music was only finally becoming upbeat and fun again after Grunge started dying off (I'm 39 btw), so it was nice to hear something that not only sounded fast and loud, but upbeat and fun. I guess that's why Dookie did so well too; kids were craving to hear something like that after the death of Kurt Cobain.
As for the Pistols, I was blown away by that record the first time I heard it. I feel your way about the Buzzcocks actually. Another band I thought i'd love, but only care for slightly. Then I heard the Undertones and thought "oh! THIS is what I wanted the Buzzcocks to sound like!" lol.
But to each their own!
@@bozhnosome of the tracks off Nevermind The Bullocks are actually great pop songs.
Disco Volante is also my favorite Mr. Bungle. It's like a homicidal Saturday morning cartoon. I have it on record. One of the songs is actually hidden between the grooves of another song and you have to randomly drop the needle right to hear it. "The Secret Song/Spy" ...and Merry Go Bye Bye is just fucking nuts. Fun fact: The album name means "Flying Saucer" in Italian.
Yeah I regret giving away my copy
There's that bad reissue but no thanks
The sound quality and dynamics on that slab are incredible
Some wild opinions in here lmao.
Radiohead is actually a legendary band lol. Wouldn't call my self a huge fan, But they really have had a huge impact on most modern alternative rock since the early 90s. And then to say Aphex Twin trash lmfao. Aphex Twin is to date still one of the most unique and influential artists of modern times. Even legendary bands outside of electronic music like The Dillinger Escape Plan, Linkin Park, Nine Inch Nails or Radiohead it self claimed to be heavily inspired by Aphex Twin. I honestly could not come up with a more impactful artist for me personally.
I get that if you're main genre of music is generic Emo and Metalcore then it might not be the most accessible music out there for you. But really then stick to that instead of bashing on other styles you got no clue about lol.
Also the whole IDM is nothing what the guy him self ever agreed on, in the 90s overal electronic dance music was quite basic and primitive. vs IDM what actually was pushing a lot of it's limits by using a lot of complexity and deep synthetic designs for its time.
Fact that there are big professional orchestras out there covering some of Aphex Twins early work says enough about his composition skills.
Widowlicker was simply a test to see how big of a mainstream hit he could create by mostly using his voice. I think it's a banger, but for sure not nearly close to his best stuff out there.
Go easy on Finn, WIndowlicker is literally the only Aphex Twin track he's actually heard :)
In my opinion Radiohead are one of the greatest bands of all time, but i kinda get were your coming from their not for everyone
They aren't for everyone, but they certainly don't suck!
Not into Aphex Twin’s drill n’ bass music, but I really dig when he does atmospheric stuff like Flim, Rhubarb and Avril 14.
Agreed. His ambient stuff is second to none.
who gave anyone the idea that Radiohead is "weird music"? i never thought of Radiohead as weird, the reason that they are popular throughout the years, is that their catalogue of music doesn't seem to deteriorate like many other bands have as time goes on. Their albums have enough variation to them, and they do experiment with different sounds.
The 90s is by far the best era for experimental music, especially in the electronic genre. Would love to know your opinion on other outfits like Boards of Canada, the prodigy, the chemical brothers to name a few.
Also, i am a big Aphex Twin fan and enjoy IDM.
SAME 🤘🏻
The Prodigy are amazing
Chemical Brothers were good at the time but stood the test of time less well, Surrender is a great album
Boards of Canada I don't know v well but get the impression they are boring
@@ghost_mall The Prodigy are cool because they are the closest to what Electronic Metal can be. As for Aphex and Boards, I enjoy their eerie and complex soundscapes.
@@ashadeofnight I like how Chem Bros. are still churning out albums but I agree, they did not stand the test of time very well. I like their new material though and my favorite album is Dig Your Own Hole.
As someone whose favorite band is Mr Bungle, everything you said about the fans was right
Motörhead overrated???????? wtf
I'd say the Beastie Boys are fairly rated, your average listener likely only knows like 5 or 6 songs and don't realize how important they were to the evolution and growth of Hip-Hop
I'm not one of those "insufferable" Tool and Deftones fans, but I think they deserve all the credit they get!
Their albums are iconic
I've been into weird electronic/industrial since the mid 1990s. Death Grips was right up my alley right away. I always have them on at the gym or mountain biking.
Lots of dance music growing up....Death Grips was definitely refreshing to me ❤
Dude for real. They make some of the best workout music
I love nails on a chalk board
@@seneca2842 Try Streaky, Lord of the Game, or Hustle Bones, some of my favorite Death Grips tracks.
@@nothingelse1520 Lord of the Game 🎯 been stuck in my head
I don't know how Finn can say Death Grips is not good with a straight face considering all of the other music he likes or thinks is groundbreaking. I almost can't think of a more groundbreaking and interesting group than Death Grips in the past 10+ years. And I'm not even a Death Grips stan, I just think you can't deny how sick they are. I can not disagree more with his take lolol like it genuinely upset me even though I'm not even a massive fan of them.
Also, Aphex Twin is fantastic. Utterly brilliant and groundbreaking artist. Like, a producer's producer. Calling him trash is just a fat fucking L lol...pure ignorance. If you have ever had a shred of experience in music production, sound design, or programming drums, his music will blow your fucking mind. Not to mention Aphex Twin has been producing NUMEROUS different variations of electronic music since the early 80's, and even has a new EP set to drop next month. He's got tons of longevity. I'm genuinely a massive fan of Aphex Twin, he's far more interesting, influential, and groundbreaking than 90% of other electronic music producers, and that's not even a hot take.
It's music. It's subjective. Finn has pretty varied musical interests. Just because something is technically great or groundbreaking, it doesn't mean he has to like it. He has talked about this countless times.
@@skilldeadly8888 oh 100% I was just saying how much I disagree with his takes since this is about music discourse
@@_TG I mean, both show me the body and DG are good, I agree. As for Aphex Twin, that's your opinion, and I feel sorry if you can't enjoy it haha dude has a wiiide array of sounds and eras in his career
Mf always has bad takes
@@flakko9149 true I disagree with him all the time but I still watch as entertainment haha it's ok
Every point that's ever been made about Mr. Bungle is both incorrect and correct at the same time because the music changes every ten seconds, yeah the beginning of squeeze me macaroni can be pretty difficult for some people but it changes to something different in 13 seconds and then it changes again and again and always has something fresh for you. also my ass is on fire has one of my favorite sections in music starting at 1 minute and 40 seconds and ending at 2 minutes 26 seconds in the song starting with just guitar moving into a chorus like thing and then a percussion instrument that sounds really cool but I don't know what it is and then record scratching. Its hard for a band to be overrated when so few people listen to them, also California is a great album. its funny because I agree the self-titled is my least favorite of their original 3 (even though I still love it).
This video is clearly only made to make people angry, don't do that. People like you make people feel invalid about their own taste and make them feel like shit for liking something weird or different. Bungle fans don't act like they invented music, we act like they are geniuses that always make something new. I would know I was raised listening to Mr. Bungle because that's what my mother played for me as I grew up and I became accustomed to that weirdness, if you don't like it that is fine just don't go trying to invalidate people for liking them.
Also the Radiohead placement is criminal, I guess we're pretending that 2007 never happened.
Great video man! Always enjoy you're videos!
Alternative video title: "Finn shitting on artists Anthony Fantano has rated highly for 20 minutes"
I don't care much for most of his other output, but "Selected Ambient Works II" singlehandedly makes Aphex Twin a giant in my mind. That's the album I've listened the most in my life (though granted, often as background music), and I reckon that along with Boards of Canada has been immensely influential in modern ambient electronic music.
AGREE on the greatness of Selected Ambient Works Vol II. It was on constant rotation in my CD player in design school.
Finn openly admits to gatekeeping yet he is gatekeeping shit he doesn’t even listen to.
Drukqs sounds a bit dated today, but nobody who’s actually heard that record would say it sounds like “baby’s first electronic music.”
I like a lot of RDJ's output (much of the Analord series is amazing) but SAW II was just lost on me. Everyone seems to put it on this pedestal and i don't get it
For ambient music I'd take KLF's Chill Out over it any day. To each their own!
Lol he’s 100% saying all this to be controversial and get more views. He only played windowlicker lol
@@colinrussell2017Analord is fantastic
In my opinion: 95% of modern "metal" bands that's almost all being praised by modern "metal" community (modern "metal"core, modern deathcore, djent, modern nu-metal, modern alternative metal). That's right: Bad Omens, Sleep Token, Spiritbox etc.
This chat is just a Yes men squad
I was at a festival and just happened to see Weezer and I was shocked at how much they sounded live like the recorded versions of their hits. It was really impressive
Though this isn't always true for their more pop-influenced songs, which they tend to play with prominent rock instrumentation live.
I saw them live around 2001-2002. They put on a great live show.
Motorhead are more underrated, if anything. Most people only talk about everything up to and including 'Ace Of Spades', they've done some equally awesome albums after that era.
''If you want to listen to something weird or niche'' - that to me is a wrong way to think about music. I can guarantee you that bands like Radiohead don't think about it like that and neither should you. The fact that people still think they are amazing more than 26 years OK Computer and the fact that every other musician today is inspired by them kind of means that you should give them another listen. Every album since OK computer has been innovative and some are honestly genius
I think the series should be renamed to "Finn Hates Music."
3:10 I don't think that's strange at all actually. I don't love Arctic Monkeys but there's a reason why they are popular. It's because there are these extremely passionate people who listen to them all day. Just because you only know about popular artists doesn't mean you're not passionate enough. Anyway, love your videos Finn, greetings from the Netherlands
Motörhead is in no way overrated.
Im not gonna lie but every hair metal band is way too overrated
Something a fan of an overrated band would say..
Ya I feel that they are overrated
Like PPL respect them like they're gods or smth but I don't find their music that interesting
Massive catalog of albums inly a handfull of good songs.
@@thrash208how can they have a handful of good songs, if you like that handful, you’ll like all the others cuz every song is identical lol
Finn trying to tell us all this band are awful is like him trying to tell us that all those awful shitty punk/hardcore bands that get grossed out by meat are amazing 😂
Some of the greatest musicians and artist of all time have said that Radiohead is amazing while this clown say they are "kind of trash" LMFAO... Opinions, you just have to respect them 😂
Disco Volante is the only Mr Bungle i own on vinyl. Desert Search for Techno Allah is a fave, for sure. i named my bulldog Mr Bungle, too. Great band.
You should have named it stubb (a dub)
Excuse me, Windowlicker in a H&M changing room? Brother, what H&M are you going to?
Aphex Twin is a complete God of electronic music. He has so much music, he manages to make emotionally potent, nostalgic, menacing, heavy, unpredictable music. All those adjectives? Easily your worst take ever. Made me cringe ngl
I kind of understand Radiohead being overrated if you're not a megafan (i am lol) but aphex twin was making some of the most groundbreaking mysic as a teenager before the imternet. That alone boggles my mind
You literally have my two all time favourite artists as trash......
I'm appalled yet impressed
Radiohead also have a pretty impeccable discography. Kid A , Ok Computer, In Rainbows and for me even TKOL are all incredible
Yeah I know right? He Has really Atmospheric stuff and I can tell it's him when KCRW ( Thats my local radio station) will play something new because he has his own sound. And it too feel nostalgia from child who when listening to him, there almost something mildly supernatural about his music. Finn Must of had an ex who really liked Aphex Twin or something or only knows one song..I do agree that MotorHead and Radiohead are crazy over rated tho..
Finn demonstrably doesn't care about whether he's talking shite or not. Its just content churn and pithy takes. He's American so by definition he just doesn't get dance music, let's leave him to it.
@@kohhna hahaha yeah man I feel like that actually might be true , calling the soundtrack to some PS1 games better than Aphex, I actually facepalmed so hard.
@@user-gi3ly1yv6y ah I stan Radiohead so I'll just ignore that hahaha
Motorhead songs all sound the same to me though
I haven't watched the whole video yet but I'm curious about what you think of Tame Impala. Forgive me if you've already made a video about it.
Another good vid. I agree with all of these except Beastie Boys. If all of the music was like their big hits, I would concur but CYH, LTL, and HN you have all kinds of interesting instrumentals, punk/hardcore, electronic, and even some psychedelic stuff. Not that genre hopping alone makes you good, but I think their music is more complex than it often gets credit for today. Just my 2 cents though. Love the vid!
I can’t stand the Beastie Boys, but I watched a live concert of theirs from the late 90s and they absolutely killed it. Definitely made me respect the hell out of them.
This is not a good video. You can agree with some of his takes but acknowledge he comes off as pretentiously misinformed. His takes on Radiohead genuinely sound dishonest and surface level, and this same guy is notorious for being very close minded with his music tastes. You Finn fans need to open your eyes to this shit 😭
Kindof a weird follow-up from your last video about letting people like what they like and not judging their taste.
Finn literally has a video praising the Beastie Boys for how great they are.
He loves deliberately contradicting himself.
Cope harder
Bills need paid
Love this video. Waiting for part2
I guess I never cared too much about if other people liked what I listened to. I just always hoped there was enough fans (not necessarily stans) to get it so they could keep making stuff and have a life.
As for your list, you shot me twice in the heart with where you put both Death Grips and Motorhead. I mean who hasn't wanted to hear ODB lyrical insanity over industrial riffs (DG) or the one shredding song where someone growls along with it through it with his raspy Cigarette tarnished voice (MH)?
As long as you don't destroy my love for Tom Waits I think I'll be okay
A thing about some of these like Weezer (Who I have not seen since like 1997 or so) and Motorhead is that they put on amazing shows. I wasn't a big fan of either until I saw them live.
Weezer's most recent tour is incredible so far, if there's any shows left in your area you should think about going. The setlist is incredible
@@evan_sy when I saw them they were doing those small club mini tours they used to do. It was right before their third album. I was hammered the first night but I liked it so much I went to the next night so I could remember it. Then I liked it so much I went back the third night!
Can someone tell me whats wrong with "fake weird"
I like death grips just because I like it, not because it's weird and edgy, just think it goes pretty hard.
weezer overrated? i mean the popular opinion about them is that they haven’t released a great album since 1996. me? i think they’ve put out some pretty bad stuff but they’re still an alright band. ok human and sznz were nice
Have to say, Aphex Twin is great music to work to. I think he's a lot closer to LoFi or Ambient than Electronica. It's like hating Lorna Shore for not having very good Thrash Metal songs, it's not really the vibe they're going for.
Aphex Twin does have some really hard breakbeat-led bangers, but for Finn here to know that he'd actually have to get off his arse and look into it.
EG, Digeridoo, the DJ Pierre Box Energy remix, the remix of The Bug & Daddy Freddy - Run The Place Red.
Yes Finn, Polynomial-C sounds better than any given Playstation Jungle track, dope as those are.
i feel like u just harped on about radiohead being not that weird to you, which is fine but i dont get why youre ranking it based on how not weird it is i just like them cuz their music is cool lol
Omg somsnosa
overrated by who is the question. the world of music criticism is so saturated these days that i'm sure you could find examples of all of these bands being both overrated and underrated. i don't think it really matters anymore
I don't think weird when I think radiohead tbh. At least thats not at all why i listen to them. Apart from a couple albums, i actually think they're fairly accessible.
Death Grips is fun to listen to, and fun to see people's reaction to their noise (at least it was years ago) 😂😂😂
Also Ride's art paintings are very amazing. Super talented man.
Haha I tried to play them at a family bbq and it did NOT go over well
zach hill is god
@@riseandshine5706 dude, for real
I like Finn but he’s clearly never listened to beware, on GP, gmail, black paint, or any number of their best songs
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19:05 it’s funny you say there’s a random photo of Beyoncé and Robert Patterson hanging out with Death Grips, I recently saw them live in London last week EricAndre and Jenna Ortega (Wednesday) were reportedly at the show, they have their fair share of famous fans. Lol
I dunno, these hot takes are coming from someone who ardently defends Nu Metal and Pop Punk. I understand that Finn thinks being aggressively unpretentious ad basic is punk af but c'mon, I'm not even a radiohead fan but How are you gonna tell me Blink 182 and Linkin Park are better bands than Radiohead when they are clearly not. The dude just hates music that's assertively artsy and pretentious. The dude bases his identity on being punk rock but like doesn't like Stooges? If you don't like the stooges, you have no taste, period. The dude has sheltered ass suburban middle schooler ears.
Correct re: artsy or pretentious music
Wow Finn, I came to this video expecting violence against Mr. Bungle and you pleasantly surprised me. Keep up the good work!
Motorhead isn't a band, it's a lifestyle...
@9:45 Deathgrips are headlining at a huge venue in Boston so i would say that some people like them, though they deliberately make their music and videos obnoxious and uncomfortable which is why nonfans like yourself are so repulsed. And that song you played is one of their early more accessible songs that's why its the first to come up, they have other songs that are harder and wierder especially on later albums, but you'd probably still hate it and say theyre ripping off an obscure "truly wierd" band that you and a few dozen other people know. Also from what I've seen they appeal more to punk and industrial fans than indie kids, who would be overwhelmed by their crazier songs and would get wrecked by the moshpits at their live shows.
Can you do a video on math rock bands
Beastie Boys def aren't overrated. The amount of respect they get in the hip-hop community is unparalleled for other rappers, etc. Totally innovative for the time.
What’s dope about the Beasties is that they brought hip hop to the masses, then afterwards basically took a masterful DIY approach to their music and remained consistent throughout their career
Maybe in the 80s/early 90s they were fresh, but imo their music hasn’t aged well. And no, I don’t care about the pc bullshit, I’m speaking musically.
As a wrestling fan I'll always give Motorhead props for writing the best wrestling tune in history, The Evolution Song. I think the official title is "Line In The Sand" but I haven't listened to much of their stuff to have an actual opinion.
That song is great
What about the Triple H theme? TIME TO PLAY THE GAAAME!!
Comparing aphex twin to "videogame menu music" is all i needed to know about you, you clearly know nothing about music production lmao
You're underestimating the impact of KId A or OK Computer
You can tell a super fan when their reaction to you not liking a band is that you just understand them.
Yes, you can. Affirmation from a Radiohead superfan. You are correct, sir! Finn doesn't understand Radiohead. A cigar has your name on it.
Bro heard two songs by Motorhead and decided they're mid.
Hoo boy
Why is tool not included? 🤔
Radiohead’s only actually won three Grammy awards and they all were just for Alternative album of the year, which probably isn’t even televised. They’ve got a metric ass tonne (how they’d spell it if it was a Radiohead lyric) of nominations though. I don’t own any Radiohead albums but I do like some of their hits enough to put them on mixtapes. I’d probably enjoy them more if I didn’t have all the major rock/alternative/indie media publications gushing over how great they are year after year because psychologically that just makes you want to dislike them & let the world know you dislike them if you only see them as mid.
How are they overrated when the only song the majority of people know is Creep
@@kulisiexactly
Sublime is Overrated
I don’t really think so. They have 6 million monthly listeners which isn’t an insanely high number. Seems they have an average amount of listeners and an average rating imo. It is dumb that their merch is sold everywhere though
No, Santeria is overrated. A good portion of their songs are actually pretty good despite ALOT of them being covers.
So *Televison* had a good debut album _Marquee Moon._ It doesn't sound much like punk rock, more like Bowie crossed w/Talking Heads or something. Supposedly they were a rad live band while Richard Hell was still in the band- think they played w/Blondie & stuff. There are some cool lyrics hidden in that record but I doubt a lot of people get them cause they sound more like art rock. But theres a reason critics like them, & it's mostly that album; amazing production for the time/place & rad guitar work that borders on progressive rock at times. If I was a hip music critic that's what I'd say~
Bit disappointed with the placements for Death Grips and Motorhead. You are entitled to your opinion though. You make really strong content. It has definitely helped evolve my acceptance for other types of music. It has also given me new prospective on other genres. I still have my hot takes, but it has tamed my gatekeeping senses and turned me into a more mature music listener.
Dude's wrong about Motorhead.