@@crabbowiththestabbo That doesn’t make any sense. I live in Utah, and I don’t know a single Mormon out here who does not consider themselves Christian. It’s actually a huge insult to imply otherwise.
Joshua was going to be a follower in the canceled Fallout 3 like Marcus to the chosen one; he was going to be before the battle of Hoover dam so he was a HUGE edgelord
"I don't enjoy killing, but when done righteously, it's just a chore, like any other." "Practiced hands make for short work. And the good Lord knows there's much to be done here."
Joshua Graham is still remembered because he is a person. He had goals, flaws, aspersions, hopes. He is without a doubt, one of the best written characters in a game. He’s just so... real.
The majority of Bethesda characters are stereotypes, not archetypes. All to do about them is rooted off consonants and plays on words rather than understandable human motivations. Hell, most villains of the stripe sound just like Shakespeare's kings, speaking in the same pompous, characterless tone. It's absurd. Fallout: New Vegas had less dry characters, but it's remembered more fondly because it was written to be a plot of steel, that will endure the test of time.
@@Big_AlMC actually I saw how long the animation of him inspecting the gun was and divided it by the videos length (Minus about 13 seconds since the animation didn't start until the player approached and started talking to him.)
The 1911 pistol was almost 100 years old when New Vegas released, it is so interesting to see the pistol design continue (as it inevitably has already) into the future. The fact that it is nearing 400 years old in the New Vegas lore and has passed into tribal tradition is utterly fascinating.
.451, 11.43x23, or my personal favorite 45 Automatic Colt Pistol, is meant to bring anything two legged and a threat down. I carry a FS 1911 as well, and even if folks carry polymer pistols bc of size and capacity, the 1911 is always venerable in its simplicity, ease of function, accurate if trained and used correctly. You can always carry a bigger mag for more capacity (10 rounds of .45 will do for me), and for size, well you can always pick up a commander,and still use your FS mags but with a smaller barrel. There are a good bit of guns I may regret wasting money on, but my 1911 is worth every penny. God bless, and shoot straight
And it will continue as Utah made the 1911 their official handgun, not a lot of states have official firearms. Plus the 1911 is stupid good design and I mean that in complete respect. It's why my first firearm i ever bought was a 1911, it's a battle tested design pistol and an icon in American history.
Yeah. Colt 1911 .45 is a legendary firearm. Arguably one of the greatest sidearms. There's a reason why special forces across the world still use it today.
I’m happy to own a 1911 out of all the guns I’ve shot, the 1911 is a part of me and is an extension of me, it’s hard to describe but when you find something that becomes a part of you it’s hard to let go.
But there stands amongst you the One you do not know. I am not worthy even to untie His sandals. Indeed I baptize you with water, but the One who comes after me, He will baptize with the Holy Spirit, and fire. ‘I survived because the fire inside me was greater than the fire outside. That fire is love. Their love. God’s love.’
nah shite, they will shot each other when they meet face to face, cuz Ulysses is the one who lead the White Legs to destroy the New Caananite, and Joshua is waiting him, the courier he expect to show up
@@nelsonsham2368 yes indeed, but certainly they will have a speech prepared for the other before engaging in combat, i can totally see them menacing each other before draw their weapons
@T no he meant Ulysses Joshua knows Ulysses because ulysses was the one who lead the white legs attack on New Canaan and was in charge of preparing the white legs for assimilation into the legion. I don't think he knows that Ulysses became disillusioned with the legion.
Religion is but one of many examples of how lazy(and cowardly) Bethesda's writers are when it comes to sensitive topics. "Hurr durr let's worship some undetonated warheads and radiation cause it's the apocalypse!" Let's not also forget the All-faiths chapel in Diamond City, which served no purpose and had no good reason to even exist. Like why even make an attempt if this is how safe and asinine you're going to be with religion in your games? Meanwhile over here in New Vegas and we got one of the best videogame christian characters ever, Caesar and his Cult of Mars which he's adopted from trying to imitate his historical counterpart, Super Mutants that still worship 'the Master' from Fallout 1 and some of the Tribals still worshipping their 'Father in the Cave,' who turns out was a hidden protector of the valley for decades after the bombs fell in order to preserve the innocence of the natives.
@@reeceshugrue6167 It would make sense for there to be more religion if an apocalypse happened, I'd argue. Skirting the topic for the sake of mass appeal is selling the potential short. They really could use it as a narrative device more often and seriously as valid character motivations.
You can tell the NV devs loved writing this character, it’s just so well done. There’s nothing that can hold a candle to a product made by a labor of love.
The moral dilemma of this dlc was pretty cool. I think helping Joshuah defend Zion but sparing salt upon wounds, teaching the sorrows mercy and helping him see he was using God's wrath as an excuse for his own anger is the best ending.
Indeed it is good in a sense that The Courier is thrown into conflict of equal parties and can influence who wins it. I personally think Joshua Graham never got over his desire to have his rage be rage of God and he killed Salt-Upon-Wounds, but it happened in battle. He remained figure firmly on Sorrow's side yet still something they rightly feared. His personal demons were at least appeased and without new threat they remain dormant.
I never saw in Joshua bloodthirst, or dishonest, quite the contrary he seems to be quite a straight walking individual, he never takes advantage of anyone. He spreads the word, yes, but he never forces the tribes to do so, they do it of their own will and not only that he seems so grateful that they took him back after all that he had done, the love that he mentions. The way i see it the white legs were violating not only the laws laid by god but also the physical integrity and life of any man just for the sake of it, if one were to be consistently he could not deny death as an appropriate sentence for himself after subjecting another individual to it, salt-upon-wounds' killing was, by his own actions, valid.
I knew I pick the wrong ending when I had them leave and once it was said and done there was no one around super suck when I realized how bad I mess up
I read the New Testament back-to-front, took my time at it, read it off-and-on, took between around 2017/18 until earlier this year 2021. If you're more dedicated than I am, though, and stick with it on a daily basis, even if it's just a chapter a day (biblical chapters tend to be pretty short, a couple pages or so), you can be through the New Testament in short time. Indeed my NT copy, even with Psalms and Proverbs, is very much pocket-sized (I carried it in a back pocket of my jeans). Copies without Psalms/Proverbs would be even more compact. New Testament is based around Jesus Christ's experience and the events that occurred later on with his Apostles. It was largely written by Saint Paul (after the testimonies of Matthew/Mark/Luke/John) whom initially seemed to hate Christianity and sought to prosecute Christians, but was visited by Christ after His crucifixion/death and ultimately converted. So Paul (who's Jewish name was Saul), though he initially was an enemy to the followers of Christ, became one of the most active preachers of His teachings, specifically seeking to spread the word in the land of the Gentiles (non-Jews, like myself) which is why he mostly went by his Latin name Paul instead of his Hebrew name Saul. Old Testament is centuries older, written far before Christ, it seems to be the dominant text of Judaism and allegedly prophesied the messiah's coming. I've finished Genesis and am working on Exodus. If you've seen the '90s DreamWorks film The Prince of Egypt, then elements of Genesis/Exodus will be familiar to you. That movie, in at least several ways, was quite faithful to the Old Testament. I was told by an Anglican priest, in regards to reading the Bible, that you should first read the New Testament and then read the Old Testament through the lens of Christ's teachings. This seems accurate, especially in relation to modern Western values. An example of this is that in the Old Testament it instructs that if a man lies with another man as he would a woman, they should both be put to death. Not exactly pro-LGBT, and in the West we are probably the most pro-LGBT in the world. I myself am bisexual, and I can freely state that without fear of legal prosecution or physical harm. Read of Sarah Hegazi of Egypt (an Islamic nation) though, whom fled to my nation of Canada for protection but ultimately committed suicide reportedly due to her past traumas she experienced for waving a rainbow flag at a concert, and you will see just how safe and privileged LGBT people are here. I digress, Christ preached non-violence, and when faced with someone about to be put to death via stoning, he stated "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone," which itself may have gone against Old Testament teachings depending on why that person (I think a woman) was going to be put to death. I hope this helps. Read the good book in whatever voice you want, but I hope you come to know Christ, and furthermore I hope you accept Him as your lord and savior. Any who does so and accepts that he was crucified, died for your sins, and was resurrected, will themselves be granted eternal life and will be given a place in Heaven. In theory, yes, you could accept Christ in this manner and sit on your laurels, living as sinless a life as you can while praying forgiveness for your sins. You will go to Heaven. You should not be lazy though. Be as generous as you possibly can, do good, be selfless, be fearless in your Christian acts, fearless even to the point of being prosecuted for being a Christian. The apostles were jailed frequently, allegedly even whipped frequently, many were even put to death such as Saint Stephen whom I think was crucified upside-down. If a Christian is told that they will be killed immediately unless they turn their back on Christ, the correct response from a Christian is to refuse, even if it means their death. There is also no love stronger than to die in the effort to help/save a friend. Personally I struggle with some of this, after all, I believe in self-defence with deadly force, especially when it comes to a father/husband protecting his wife/children. That, technically, might not be Christian even though elements of the Old Testament supports the death of a breaking-and-entering thief if it is at night, though it might have to be accidental. Bah, this comment is dragging on quite long, I'll end it here, and as mentioned I hope it helps. Jesus Christ loves you and died for you, whoever may be reading this.
Like No said, Joshua isn’t some brainwashed tribal. He knows that Edward is just a brutish tyrant with delusions of grandeur. He’s not worth changing Graham’s native pronunciations for.
I remember I got NV upon its release and played it for months. Multiple play throughs to see as much ending outcomes as possible and for trophy/achievements. During my Legion run how everyone talked about “The Burned Man” and his legend, every Legion NPC “The slaves has been spreading stories about the Burned Man again.” Who is this guy? Surely he must be dead, he’s just a ghost, a legend. Then they dropped this DLC after Dead Money I believe and there you see, no monster, no giant, just a man. Covered in bandages speaking words of God, I was completely shook for some reason. They built him up super well, it’s great you can just buy NV with every DLC and meet him right away, but i imagine it was different for us to had to wait a few months to meet him until we got the DLC.
Something about him is so interesting, for a figure that can reign hell and bring armageddon against his foes, for a man unable to die when NCR Snipers took pot shots at him and when the Legion themselves "Burned" him alive, you would think he is someone violent or a revered warlord who believes in God, someone surrounded by savage tribal warriors while he sits in his throne like Caesar but when you meet him, You see him as a kind and gentle person, a warrior attending to his children and his garden, a sharp contrast to the stories you've heard. He represents the old testament and repentance for old sins, he chose forgiveness not just it was good but because he knows that it is God that will exact his judgement, cut him down if you will.
@@kingofthefallen1567 Another fictional character shaped by conflict: "All my life my purpose has been war. I look forward seeing what peace looks like. "
Why is it that a weird post-apocalyptic game about a mailman getting shot in the head has one of the best representations of Christianity I have ever seen? Oh yeah, it's because Obsidian knows how to write, unlike a certain other company.
They *knew* how to write. The outer worlds writing was way worse (less interesting), which shows to me that NV may have been lightning in a bottle for obsidian.
@@boneman-calciumenjoyer8290 Obsidian isn't the same company as the one that made New Vegas, the writers and creators of New Vegas don't work there anymore, the only thing the Obsidian that made Outer Worlds has in common with the Obsidian that made New Vegas is the name.
@@boneman-calciumenjoyer8290 but they've made way more than just New Vegas and outer worlds and there other games have that good writing too but they were also older than New Vegas I think where as like the other guy said, current obsidian doesn't have the same writers as before. Plus outer worlds was too focused on the anti corporatism and humor. Similar reason I didn't much care for the borderlands games because it felt like every word was trying to be a joke.
Playing Vegas for the first time I didn't think the Burned Man would be a interesting character minus his origins. I am very happy I was wrong cause hes so GOOD.
"In a world filled with misery and uncertainty, it is a great comfort to know that, in the end, there is light in the darkness" this has only gotten more relevant with todays world climate and whenever I feel my own faith slipping, I recite this line in my head to remind myself that it'll all be worth it in the end. God has a plan for all of us and we may pray to him. We may often ask for a better life, more wealth, better opportunities or even more courage, but at the end of the day, God gave us the Free Will to act upon those goals... to build a better tomorrow for ourselves... and our Families Apologies for getting a bit preachy there but Joshua Graham is such an amazingly written character that it makes me happy to be Religious
i personally do not believe in god, or at least, not in the same way most do, but i do respect your beliefs. however, i dont find it a good idea to rely solely on god to build your life. god rewards those who can work for themselves, and while i understand praying and respecting god, but that being one’s only method of “building a life” seems unstable.
@@senna2794 thats basically what inwas saying in the part where god had given us the free will to work towards our goals. Like i said, we may ask for all the things we want but we have to work toward them either way. Otherwise, whats the point of free will. Thanks for the concern though, its nice to know that even a stranger on the internet cares even just a little
@@MaxwelloftheClocktower i take great interest in all religions. while i personally am very uncomfortable with the idea of joining any of them, i think their philosophies and historical texts are very intriguing
i play this on loop in the background while drawing/reading so damn calming wish there was a audiobook version of the kings james biblw by the same voice actor i'd die for that one
"I don't know if you were close to the other members of your group, but you have my sympathy." He wasn't talking about what happened to your caravan members, but the other couriers. This game's writing man, holy fucking shit.
I find it funny that where I grew up I faced some intense Christan indoctrination, I brushed it all off as nonsense till 16, but only when I heard Joshua talk about his religion I felt like it was actually something meaningful and hopeful, speaks a lot to how well written he is
Fun Fact Joshua Graham was originally in the base game, leader of the Followers and able to be sided with, but he was moved to a dlc due to all the playtesters only choosing his ending with the only reason being "All the others sucked"
I like how he makes reference to Browning who designed the 1911, and he was also Mormon like Graham, referencing browning as "One of his people." who designed the 1911 and had been designing it for probably a good decade or so before it was adopted by the US Military, which in Fallout timeline the late 1800s to early 1900s was almost 400 years ago.
"In a world filled with misery and uncertainty, it is a great comfort to know that, in the end, there is light in the darkness." - Joshua Graham, the man who survived because the fire inside burned brighter than the fire around him.
I think what struck out the most about Graham was how different he is compared to Daniel. Aside from the burn marks and his background as a legate, Graham and Daniel do share quite a few things in common, but what separates them is how they treated people. Daniel treated the Sorrows kindly, but he did so out of selfish reasons as way of penance for bringing New Canaan's troubles onto them. He also treats them as if they're children, and it rubs me the wrong way as this was the way which Christian missionaries used to approach indigenous and colonised peoples -- always acting from a position of moral and spiritual superiority. Graham is different. He taught the Dead Horses how to do many things as a means of protecting them. Whether he did so out of his own volition or as part of his missionary work is debatable, but I think it's the former since missionaries, like Daniel, would rather advocate for more peaceful options. In other words, he treated them not as 'subjects' that needed to be brought to the light, but as people, with their own dreams, fears, and ambitions. And it is through his deeds that people flock to him and to God for guidance. Graham is selfish, but he does not do so out of a position of 'moral superiority' like Daniel, who thought that he had a responsibility to keep innocence of the Sorrows as penance for dumping New Canaan's problems to them. He is selfish because he thirsts for revenge, which almost leads him astray until the Courier convinces him not to shoot Salt-Upon-Wounds, at which point, he realises that God's work had been completed. He's very much human. That's why I always preferred the ending over the other endings.
Think the Dead Horses speak a mixture of Navajo and German. "Hello" in Diné is "yah'ah'teh", course here they use the last syllable to the German iteration. Yah'ah'teh a'bi'neh from Arizona. I can't speak nor understand anyone but my grandma.
I read somewhere (I can’t remember) that there was a bus load of German tourists that were in the canyons when the bombs fell, and that they mixed with the dead horses and created a hybrid language
Speaking of tribal weapons, my grandfather carried in a 1911 in world war 2. When he passed away my family did a lottery to decide who it would go it (my dad has 11 siblings, catholic family lol) My dad won and the 1911 passed to him. Some day when my father departs this world, the 1911 will pass to me. Its like our version of a family sword.
The burned man is a paranormal legend in real life in that area of USA. This is a huge reference to a real life ghost story. Plus this parody version of real religious history.
“It is of great comfort to know, that in the end there is light in the darkness, for many of us the road is a difficult one, but the path is always there”
This just came to mind, but if you didn't know there's a holotape about Ulysses time with the white legs. This means he could've technically had a confrontation with Joshua
I may not be religious, but Joshua and his speech with god just feels... Oddly empowering. Even if you don't believe in god, you could replace the lord with/make the lord an analogy for the world, maybe the people in it, or maybe even you. Either way, Joshua is speaking a truth.
@@Xinthose Dont waste your prayers, God will never guide them. Dont you hear what he says? Replace God with the world, as the two can ever be equated. shows really whom he worships, all of them who say they do not worship anything are infact worshippers of something, be it as pathetic as this world, for this person. and God knows best.
I don't try to talk Joshua down. The White Legs are horrible and would not stop, so I say yes, kill them all. They would not stop after being warned and came again and again and when their intended targets decided to fight back, they got what they deserved. Of course, that's determinant on whether the player decides to side with Joshua or Daniel, but having played both ways and know what happens, I fully side with the man who wants to fight the White Legs. Yes, the Dead Horses and Sorrows become violent in the process, but the world of Fallout is an unforgiving place and they need to learn how to protect themselves from future attacks by other tribes like the White Legs.
If tribes could only use weapons designed by notable makers from their religion then the Mormons are really over powered. B.A.R., the 1911, the HI power, the frigging M2 .50 BMG, Auto shotgun, and so many freaking more incredible guns.
The BAR is kind of reputed for being garbage as a light machine gun, though. To the point that the USMC in the Pacific theater used rifles to supress the enemy and the BAR to do the actual killing, the exact opposite of what they were trained to do.
fallout 4 makes a character that want to swap all living beings into slave cyborgs because uh well he is dying? new vegas makes a character that is so deep that people still think on their philosophies wills ideals and thoughts
I once made a D&D character that was basically a Joshua Graham rip off without noticing until another player pointed it out. I still had fun with that character though.
This is just my interpretation of Graham, but he knows he's a sinner. He's doing some horrible things in his life, but keeps with his faith. He doesn't know if he's going to hell or not, and that's exactly what makes he's terrifying. He's a doomed man, so he's able to do what he thinks needs to be done
I like your interpretation but I'm afraid it is not exactly accurate. Christianity, which is his religion, is a religion that says that the faithful and repentant will be saved no matter how many times they fall. He would likely have certainty in his salvation as Christians are supposed to. Thats the difference between Christianity and other religions is that God doesn't dangle salvation in front of your face to manipulate you.
@@adenjones1802 That depends on what type of Christian you are, but he's Mormon and Mormons don't have a traditional version of hell so I'm wrong anyway lol Still, I like my interpretation
@@FuzzyLittleBastard I do find it interesting. The idea of a person who believes they are going to hell but is none the less on Gods side. It would be a cool idea.
A ruthless warlord enforcer turned born again christian willing to risk his own life for the people who need protection from evil. This game sure had some great fucking characters.
He doesn't seem like the openly violent type, like Caesar. Plus, there's dialogue saying that he's chill about it. He is dangerous for many, many reasons, but not for his faith, apparently.
The thing that bothers me about his gun inspection animation is that he inserts the empty magazine back into the gun then pulls the slide back to release it. The empty magazine would hold it open. He should release the slide then insert the magazine.
"We cant expect God to do all the work"
*Loads 45.*
"God created man, Colonel Colt made them equal."
John Moses Browning the Saint of Firearms, made the perfect equalizer: The Colt 1911 in .45 acp.
“9mm kills the body, 45 ACP kills the soul.”
@@everythingsgonnabealright8888 amen
Loads 4:5
@@Boogerstastelikechicken Hallowed be thy point.
/r/atheism: You can't make a Christian character cool.
_Joshua Graham: Hold my pistols, forsaken ones._
Joshua is Mormon but still badass
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Man makes me cry sometimes
@@ethanhunt571 that really depends from Mormon to Mormon. Some are and some are not. Joshua would probably be a Christian Mormon.
And don't forget Alucard in SOTN.
@@crabbowiththestabbo That doesn’t make any sense. I live in Utah, and I don’t know a single Mormon out here who does not consider themselves Christian. It’s actually a huge insult to imply otherwise.
Talking to Joshua Graham feels a bit like how meeting a previous main character of a game series should feel.
Hell yeah. Courier meeting the Chosen One would be intense
That would be so cool😎
Joshua was going to be a follower in the canceled Fallout 3 like Marcus to the chosen one; he was going to be before the battle of Hoover dam so he was a HUGE edgelord
What an on-point description.
Talking to Joshua Graham is like meeting a redeemed Darth Vader.
"I don't enjoy killing, but when done righteously, it's just a chore, like any other."
"Practiced hands make for short work. And the good Lord knows there's much to be done here."
"You can't expect God to do all the work."
“The fire that kept me alive was love, their love, gods love”
*B* *U* *T*
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Anyone deep inside:"I don't enjoy killing, BUT..."
I'd love to hear him do an audio reading of the bible
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maybe we can ask him to do a reading
_Well. He's a Mormon so_
@Harris Farley
_I know_
Train an AI on his voice and record an audiobook of the Bible with it.
Joshua Graham is still remembered because he is a person. He had goals, flaws, aspersions, hopes. He is without a doubt, one of the best written characters in a game. He’s just so... real.
Aspirations.
"In a world filled with misery and uncertainty, it is a great comfort to know that, in the end, there is a light in the darkness."
He is the greatest character in all of New Vegas in my opinion
The majority of Bethesda characters are stereotypes, not archetypes. All to do about them is rooted off consonants and plays on words rather than understandable human motivations. Hell, most villains of the stripe sound just like Shakespeare's kings, speaking in the same pompous, characterless tone. It's absurd.
Fallout: New Vegas had less dry characters, but it's remembered more fondly because it was written to be a plot of steel, that will endure the test of time.
@@hallowedbeyourdays nobody mentioned Bethesda in this comment thread and here you come along with an entire paragraph of “analysis”.
Very random.
His voice is like Friggin ASMR.
I know!
Keith Szarabajka ;)
@@misterscorbunny5524 almost worth running through Skyrim just to hear all those Dunmer!
Alternate universe where the Great War ended without nuclear warfare, and 200 years later Joshua Graham leads a successful career voicing audiobooks.
Someone call?
I did the math.
Joshua inspected approximately 142 pistols during this conversation.
he didnt repair them tho he was just checking the barrels for obstructions and loading them
@@paulburesh7495 well, same thing. Lol
Maybe I'll change it to "Inspected." Or "Loaded."
honestly this needs more likes. thank u for ur service
"I DiD da mAtH" nigga you sat there and counted.
@@Big_AlMC actually I saw how long the animation of him inspecting the gun was and divided it by the videos length (Minus about 13 seconds since the animation didn't start until the player approached and started talking to him.)
The 1911 pistol was almost 100 years old when New Vegas released, it is so interesting to see the pistol design continue (as it inevitably has already) into the future. The fact that it is nearing 400 years old in the New Vegas lore and has passed into tribal tradition is utterly fascinating.
.451, 11.43x23, or my personal favorite 45 Automatic Colt Pistol, is meant to bring anything two legged and a threat down. I carry a FS 1911 as well, and even if folks carry polymer pistols bc of size and capacity, the 1911 is always venerable in its simplicity, ease of function, accurate if trained and used correctly. You can always carry a bigger mag for more capacity (10 rounds of .45 will do for me), and for size, well you can always pick up a commander,and still use your FS mags but with a smaller barrel. There are a good bit of guns I may regret wasting money on, but my 1911 is worth every penny. God bless, and shoot straight
Whats even more interesting is that the creator of the 1911 pistol was created by a Mormon and came from Utah the place where Honest Hearts is set in
And it will continue as Utah made the 1911 their official handgun, not a lot of states have official firearms. Plus the 1911 is stupid good design and I mean that in complete respect. It's why my first firearm i ever bought was a 1911, it's a battle tested design pistol and an icon in American history.
Yeah. Colt 1911 .45 is a legendary firearm. Arguably one of the greatest sidearms. There's a reason why special forces across the world still use it today.
I’m happy to own a 1911 out of all the guns I’ve shot, the 1911 is a part of me and is an extension of me, it’s hard to describe but when you find something that becomes a part of you it’s hard to let go.
*"I have been baptized twice. Once in water, once in flame."* - Joshua Graham, "The Darkman"
But there stands amongst you the One you do not know. I am not worthy even to untie His sandals. Indeed I baptize you with water, but the One who comes after me, He will baptize with the Holy Spirit, and fire.
‘I survived because the fire inside me was greater than the fire outside. That fire is love. Their love. God’s love.’
Ulysses & Joshua would have interesting philosophical discussions
Ulysses reminds me of Joshua's original iteration, "The Hanged Man"
nah shite, they will shot each other when they meet face to face, cuz Ulysses is the one who lead the White Legs to destroy the New Caananite, and Joshua is waiting him, the courier he expect to show up
@@nelsonsham2368 yes indeed, but certainly they will have a speech prepared for the other before engaging in combat, i can totally see them menacing each other before draw their weapons
@T no he meant Ulysses
Joshua knows Ulysses because ulysses was the one who lead the white legs attack on New Canaan and was in charge of preparing the white legs for assimilation into the legion. I don't think he knows that Ulysses became disillusioned with the legion.
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Fallout 3: "Haha look they worship radiation that slowly murders them lmao"
Fallout NV: *converts you to mormonism*
Religion is but one of many examples of how lazy(and cowardly) Bethesda's writers are when it comes to sensitive topics. "Hurr durr let's worship some undetonated warheads and radiation cause it's the apocalypse!" Let's not also forget the All-faiths chapel in Diamond City, which served no purpose and had no good reason to even exist. Like why even make an attempt if this is how safe and asinine you're going to be with religion in your games?
Meanwhile over here in New Vegas and we got one of the best videogame christian characters ever, Caesar and his Cult of Mars which he's adopted from trying to imitate his historical counterpart, Super Mutants that still worship 'the Master' from Fallout 1 and some of the Tribals still worshipping their 'Father in the Cave,' who turns out was a hidden protector of the valley for decades after the bombs fell in order to preserve the innocence of the natives.
@@reeceshugrue6167 It would make sense for there to be more religion if an apocalypse happened, I'd argue. Skirting the topic for the sake of mass appeal is selling the potential short. They really could use it as a narrative device more often and seriously as valid character motivations.
Homie pulled a book of eli on me
@@reeceshugrue6167 ...There was a chapel in Diamond City? Huh.
@@ShifterInTheShadows I have like 500 hours in FO4 and I never knew either
You can tell the NV devs loved writing this character, it’s just so well done.
There’s nothing that can hold a candle to a product made by a labor of love.
Except Amazon
The moral dilemma of this dlc was pretty cool. I think helping Joshuah defend Zion but sparing salt upon wounds, teaching the sorrows mercy and helping him see he was using God's wrath as an excuse for his own anger is the best ending.
When you read the survivors last message to the people of Zion it shows you that specific ending is the best one.
Indeed it is good in a sense that The Courier is thrown into conflict of equal parties and can influence who wins it. I personally think Joshua Graham never got over his desire to have his rage be rage of God and he killed Salt-Upon-Wounds, but it happened in battle. He remained figure firmly on Sorrow's side yet still something they rightly feared. His personal demons were at least appeased and without new threat they remain dormant.
I never saw in Joshua bloodthirst, or dishonest, quite the contrary he seems to be quite a straight walking individual, he never takes advantage of anyone. He spreads the word, yes, but he never forces the tribes to do so, they do it of their own will and not only that he seems so grateful that they took him back after all that he had done, the love that he mentions.
The way i see it the white legs were violating not only the laws laid by god but also the physical integrity and life of any man just for the sake of it, if one were to be consistently he could not deny death as an appropriate sentence for himself after subjecting another individual to it, salt-upon-wounds' killing was, by his own actions, valid.
I knew I pick the wrong ending when I had them leave and once it was said and done there was no one around super suck when I realized how bad I mess up
L. Fuck the white legs they deserved it.
Whenever i read the bible, i think of Joshua Graham's voice narrating it for me.
For me I had Leonard Nimoy narrated documentaries on biblical or ancient topics.. So it’s a toss up between Graham or Nimoy.
cool
I read the New Testament back-to-front, took my time at it, read it off-and-on, took between around 2017/18 until earlier this year 2021. If you're more dedicated than I am, though, and stick with it on a daily basis, even if it's just a chapter a day (biblical chapters tend to be pretty short, a couple pages or so), you can be through the New Testament in short time. Indeed my NT copy, even with Psalms and Proverbs, is very much pocket-sized (I carried it in a back pocket of my jeans). Copies without Psalms/Proverbs would be even more compact.
New Testament is based around Jesus Christ's experience and the events that occurred later on with his Apostles. It was largely written by Saint Paul (after the testimonies of Matthew/Mark/Luke/John) whom initially seemed to hate Christianity and sought to prosecute Christians, but was visited by Christ after His crucifixion/death and ultimately converted. So Paul (who's Jewish name was Saul), though he initially was an enemy to the followers of Christ, became one of the most active preachers of His teachings, specifically seeking to spread the word in the land of the Gentiles (non-Jews, like myself) which is why he mostly went by his Latin name Paul instead of his Hebrew name Saul.
Old Testament is centuries older, written far before Christ, it seems to be the dominant text of Judaism and allegedly prophesied the messiah's coming. I've finished Genesis and am working on Exodus. If you've seen the '90s DreamWorks film The Prince of Egypt, then elements of Genesis/Exodus will be familiar to you. That movie, in at least several ways, was quite faithful to the Old Testament.
I was told by an Anglican priest, in regards to reading the Bible, that you should first read the New Testament and then read the Old Testament through the lens of Christ's teachings. This seems accurate, especially in relation to modern Western values. An example of this is that in the Old Testament it instructs that if a man lies with another man as he would a woman, they should both be put to death. Not exactly pro-LGBT, and in the West we are probably the most pro-LGBT in the world. I myself am bisexual, and I can freely state that without fear of legal prosecution or physical harm. Read of Sarah Hegazi of Egypt (an Islamic nation) though, whom fled to my nation of Canada for protection but ultimately committed suicide reportedly due to her past traumas she experienced for waving a rainbow flag at a concert, and you will see just how safe and privileged LGBT people are here. I digress, Christ preached non-violence, and when faced with someone about to be put to death via stoning, he stated "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone," which itself may have gone against Old Testament teachings depending on why that person (I think a woman) was going to be put to death.
I hope this helps. Read the good book in whatever voice you want, but I hope you come to know Christ, and furthermore I hope you accept Him as your lord and savior. Any who does so and accepts that he was crucified, died for your sins, and was resurrected, will themselves be granted eternal life and will be given a place in Heaven. In theory, yes, you could accept Christ in this manner and sit on your laurels, living as sinless a life as you can while praying forgiveness for your sins. You will go to Heaven. You should not be lazy though. Be as generous as you possibly can, do good, be selfless, be fearless in your Christian acts, fearless even to the point of being prosecuted for being a Christian. The apostles were jailed frequently, allegedly even whipped frequently, many were even put to death such as Saint Stephen whom I think was crucified upside-down. If a Christian is told that they will be killed immediately unless they turn their back on Christ, the correct response from a Christian is to refuse, even if it means their death. There is also no love stronger than to die in the effort to help/save a friend.
Personally I struggle with some of this, after all, I believe in self-defence with deadly force, especially when it comes to a father/husband protecting his wife/children. That, technically, might not be Christian even though elements of the Old Testament supports the death of a breaking-and-entering thief if it is at night, though it might have to be accidental. Bah, this comment is dragging on quite long, I'll end it here, and as mentioned I hope it helps. Jesus Christ loves you and died for you, whoever may be reading this.
Same here lol
@@normanmccollum6082 god bless you friend
*"We can't expect god to do all the work."*
**Loads .45 with religious intent**
His voice has gravel to it, he would be great voicing a turian in Mass Effect
He actually voiced Lilihierax in Mass Effect 1, I think he voiced more characters in the second one too
He voiced Harbinger the leader of the Reapers
The former right hand man of the ruler of the self named Legion, pronounces his name as See-sar when everyone else says Kai-sar...
Because he knows the origin of Caesar and refuses to acknowledge him as something more than a cheap copy of the past.
Like No said, Joshua isn’t some brainwashed tribal. He knows that Edward is just a brutish tyrant with delusions of grandeur. He’s not worth changing Graham’s native pronunciations for.
i always assumed it was a slight
@@Noplayster13 I think that's a bit reductive. Caesar has a legitimate ideology. He believes in something greater than himself
@Hohohomo
Except Caesar (the name) would have been pronounced closer to kaisar than seesar. In classical latin the Cs are pronounced as Ks
I remember I got NV upon its release and played it for months. Multiple play throughs to see as much ending outcomes as possible and for trophy/achievements. During my Legion run how everyone talked about “The Burned Man” and his legend, every Legion NPC “The slaves has been spreading stories about the Burned Man again.” Who is this guy? Surely he must be dead, he’s just a ghost, a legend. Then they dropped this DLC after Dead Money I believe and there you see, no monster, no giant, just a man. Covered in bandages speaking words of God, I was completely shook for some reason. They built him up super well, it’s great you can just buy NV with every DLC and meet him right away, but i imagine it was different for us to had to wait a few months to meet him until we got the DLC.
Joshua Graham kinda reminds me of the New Vegas version of Eli in the Book of Eli
@@alexanderchampagne919 The world of fallout gives off The book of Eli vibes
@@alexanderchampagne919 The yellow tone is very similar to the one in book of Eli
Best character in New Vegas
Zekky Auditore D E B A T A B L E. Ulysses
@@Reymii In the first playthrough maybe, but I can only take so much BULL AND BEAR before it becomes annoying
@@zekkyauditore3075 Oh God why did you have to remind of THE BULL AND THE BEAR.
@Zekky Auditore
Easy Pete?
@@Reymii Ulysses is garbage Chris Avellone meme-tier garbage. Joshua Graham is actually interesting.
Not... enough... PISTOLS
Thank you.
Something about him is so interesting, for a figure that can reign hell and bring armageddon against his foes, for a man unable to die when NCR Snipers took pot shots at him and when the Legion themselves "Burned" him alive, you would think he is someone violent or a revered warlord who believes in God, someone surrounded by savage tribal warriors while he sits in his throne like Caesar but when you meet him, You see him as a kind and gentle person, a warrior attending to his children and his garden, a sharp contrast to the stories you've heard.
He represents the old testament and repentance for old sins, he chose forgiveness not just it was good but because he knows that it is God that will exact his judgement, cut him down if you will.
This is a quote from an old story I've heard but it fits Joshua Graham: "A warrior practices peace when he is not training for war"
@@kingofthefallen1567 Another fictional character shaped by conflict: "All my life my purpose has been war. I look forward seeing what peace looks like. "
@@vksasdgaming9472 what was that one from?
Virgins: Kisar/Seezer
Joshua Graham: Seesar
Why is it that a weird post-apocalyptic game about a mailman getting shot in the head has one of the best representations of Christianity I have ever seen?
Oh yeah, it's because Obsidian knows how to write, unlike a certain other company.
Obsidian actually like to make the player think and have axtual moral quandries. Really wish more games engaged with you this much.
They *knew* how to write.
The outer worlds writing was way worse (less interesting), which shows to me that NV may have been lightning in a bottle for obsidian.
@@boneman-calciumenjoyer8290 Obsidian isn't the same company as the one that made New Vegas, the writers and creators of New Vegas don't work there anymore, the only thing the Obsidian that made Outer Worlds has in common with the Obsidian that made New Vegas is the name.
Ubisoft
@@boneman-calciumenjoyer8290 but they've made way more than just New Vegas and outer worlds and there other games have that good writing too but they were also older than New Vegas I think where as like the other guy said, current obsidian doesn't have the same writers as before. Plus outer worlds was too focused on the anti corporatism and humor. Similar reason I didn't much care for the borderlands games because it felt like every word was trying to be a joke.
Fun fact: He got the same voice actor for Erandur from Skyrim and Xardas from Gothic 3
Also the Didact from Halo 4,Harbinger from Mass Effect
He is the voice actor for wise man at the slog in fallout 4
He was also in an episode of Archer
Playing Vegas for the first time I didn't think the Burned Man would be a interesting character minus his origins. I am very happy I was wrong cause hes so GOOD.
I'm glad you are playing it, what an experience, I've been playing for over 10 years and everyplay through i discover something new! Enjoy it my man
@@TheDavidb1995 yeah I played this when it came out, I was blown away how good Joshua is. I'm always happy to replay this game anytime since 2010.
"In a world filled with misery and uncertainty, it is a great comfort to know that, in the end, there is light in the darkness"
this has only gotten more relevant with todays world climate and whenever I feel my own faith slipping, I recite this line in my head to remind myself that it'll all be worth it in the end. God has a plan for all of us and we may pray to him. We may often ask for a better life, more wealth, better opportunities or even more courage, but at the end of the day, God gave us the Free Will to act upon those goals... to build a better tomorrow for ourselves... and our Families
Apologies for getting a bit preachy there but Joshua Graham is such an amazingly written character that it makes me happy to be Religious
i personally do not believe in god, or at least, not in the same way most do, but i do respect your beliefs. however, i dont find it a good idea to rely solely on god to build your life. god rewards those who can work for themselves, and while i understand praying and respecting god, but that being one’s only method of “building a life” seems unstable.
@@senna2794 thats basically what inwas saying in the part where god had given us the free will to work towards our goals. Like i said, we may ask for all the things we want but we have to work toward them either way. Otherwise, whats the point of free will.
Thanks for the concern though, its nice to know that even a stranger on the internet cares even just a little
@@MaxwelloftheClocktower i take great interest in all religions. while i personally am very uncomfortable with the idea of joining any of them, i think their philosophies and historical texts are very intriguing
"We can always turn to God for everything. However it's good to have friends" 💕 Mich love man. Peace be unto you
@@Chingy42069 and peace be with you man
Joshua Graham is why i, an atheist never make fun of theists for their beliefs.
Respect 🤜🏾🤛🏾
I'm so mad we never get to see him again after the DLC
Same
You are a rare breed and I appreciate you immensely.
I wish I had your self control. I respect all beliefs, but sometimes my tongue thinks faster than my mind, if you know what I mean
i play this on loop in the background while drawing/reading
so damn calming
wish there was a audiobook version of the kings james biblw by the same voice actor
i'd die for that one
The KJV audio bible read by Alexander Scourby might be close enough. He has a rather similar voice.
I played this game when i was very young so i couldnt appreciate it back then, but coming back to it i realize how well written and voice acted it is.
It is not voiced well. There are a few stand outs though.
@@jerm70 Still BETTER than Fallout 76
"I don't know if you were close to the other members of your group, but you have my sympathy."
He wasn't talking about what happened to your caravan members, but the other couriers. This game's writing man, holy fucking shit.
Keith Szarabajka - Great voice and good actor :)
Joshua Graham is the daddy we all need.
More like the Preacher we desperately need in all our lives, stop tainting his name and let us pray in the good name of the Lord.
@@SciRuler lmao
@@BriannaBow Amen
@Science In the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
I find it funny that where I grew up I faced some intense Christan indoctrination, I brushed it all off as nonsense till 16, but only when I heard Joshua talk about his religion I felt like it was actually something meaningful and hopeful, speaks a lot to how well written he is
until he said it, I didn't realize John Browning was a Mormon
That's a Colt 1911 he's cleaning.
@@stevepalpatine2828 didn't John Moses Browning make the 1911 though?
I love Joshua Graham, but green UI in New Vegas is utterly cursed
Why? I really like the green
Orange is nice, but I usually use blue in all fallouts
Along with most of fallout tbh
I don't think the other colors than orange are cursed, I but I do prefer orange
@@BMMS21
What kind of insane person would use a purple UI?
Wow. Joshua has a lot of pistols.
He has a lot of chores to do. Same as any other.
"Switching to your sidearm is faster than reloading."
In this case, he has a *lot* of sidearms.
They probaly from his tribe which died in white legs attack he keeps them working because he feels guilty.
Fun Fact
Joshua Graham was originally in the base game, leader of the Followers and able to be sided with, but he was moved to a dlc due to all the playtesters only choosing his ending with the only reason being "All the others sucked"
Well damn that sucks
Huh... the more you know
Source?
:)
Dude trust me I totally didn't make this up to say Joshua Graham is cool no way
@@GreatWorkBoss I trust you, was just asking for askin' sake.
The russisnbadger: I nearly cried during one of Joshua's speeches.
Me: Ha! What a wuss.
Also me, who cried almost every playtrouh of Honest Hearts.
Gay
@@Big_AlMC Straight
I like how he makes reference to Browning who designed the 1911, and he was also Mormon like Graham, referencing browning as "One of his people." who designed the 1911 and had been designing it for probably a good decade or so before it was adopted by the US Military, which in Fallout timeline the late 1800s to early 1900s was almost 400 years ago.
"In a world filled with misery and uncertainty, it is a great comfort to know that, in the end, there is light in the darkness."
- Joshua Graham, the man who survived because the fire inside burned brighter than the fire around him.
I love 0:20 because it refers to a different courier, Ulysses.
I think what struck out the most about Graham was how different he is compared to Daniel. Aside from the burn marks and his background as a legate, Graham and Daniel do share quite a few things in common, but what separates them is how they treated people. Daniel treated the Sorrows kindly, but he did so out of selfish reasons as way of penance for bringing New Canaan's troubles onto them. He also treats them as if they're children, and it rubs me the wrong way as this was the way which Christian missionaries used to approach indigenous and colonised peoples -- always acting from a position of moral and spiritual superiority.
Graham is different. He taught the Dead Horses how to do many things as a means of protecting them. Whether he did so out of his own volition or as part of his missionary work is debatable, but I think it's the former since missionaries, like Daniel, would rather advocate for more peaceful options. In other words, he treated them not as 'subjects' that needed to be brought to the light, but as people, with their own dreams, fears, and ambitions. And it is through his deeds that people flock to him and to God for guidance.
Graham is selfish, but he does not do so out of a position of 'moral superiority' like Daniel, who thought that he had a responsibility to keep innocence of the Sorrows as penance for dumping New Canaan's problems to them. He is selfish because he thirsts for revenge, which almost leads him astray until the Courier convinces him not to shoot Salt-Upon-Wounds, at which point, he realises that God's work had been completed. He's very much human.
That's why I always preferred the ending over the other endings.
Think the Dead Horses speak a mixture of Navajo and German. "Hello" in Diné is "yah'ah'teh", course here they use the last syllable to the German iteration.
Yah'ah'teh a'bi'neh from Arizona. I can't speak nor understand anyone but my grandma.
I read somewhere (I can’t remember) that there was a bus load of German tourists that were in the canyons when the bombs fell, and that they mixed with the dead horses and created a hybrid language
Could be dutch too, i speak dutch and I can undersrand some things they say. It could also be afrikaans
@@mynamejeff5374 A German once told me dutch was just swampy, ghetto German.
Whatever you say General Gobbledygook...
If Iroh and Joshua would have a conversion that would blow everyone away
he has such a calm voice you just wanna keep listening to him his voice is so nice
I just realized the Dead Horses come from the Rez east of the Grand Canyon. The reservation, Native American. Navajo and/or Hopi!
If he started a church I would most certainly attentd
He is based on the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints
0:34
3:56
4:16
8:06
10:07
13:34
14:05
18:21
Joshua ❤️
I like your name
Commenting here to make a note for myself. These are quite good quotes, frankly.
Same
Speaking of tribal weapons, my grandfather carried in a 1911 in world war 2. When he passed away my family did a lottery to decide who it would go it (my dad has 11 siblings, catholic family lol) My dad won and the 1911 passed to him. Some day when my father departs this world, the 1911 will pass to me. Its like our version of a family sword.
That's very cool. Most people today just throw away or sell family heirlooms.
Imagine being so badass, an entire faction wants to destroy your people because of you
Happy 10 yr birthday new vegas
Now I am an atheist.
But Joshua, he can convert me any day.
The dialogs in this game are SUPREME
March 2022 this speech do be hitting different...
The burned man is a paranormal legend in real life in that area of USA. This is a huge reference to a real life ghost story.
Plus this parody version of real religious history.
I do love how every dlc mentions Ulysses
I honestly hope its cannon that the courier some how found Graham and started living with them
Nope
Maybe. It's your headcanon for your character
“It is of great comfort to know, that in the end there is light in the darkness, for many of us the road is a difficult one, but the path is always there”
Who knew harbinger and captain diomedes had such a soothing voice
Honest Hearts and Dead Money ought to be their own Netflix specials at this point. Imagine a miniseries of New Vegas' greatest hits.
This just came to mind, but if you didn't know there's a holotape about Ulysses time with the white legs. This means he could've technically had a confrontation with Joshua
Some say the Burned Man is still inspecting handguns even to this day.
Fun fact, Joshua Graham shares the same voice actor as the Didact from Halo 4.
Don't Forget Harbinger FROM *Mass Effect 2*
**ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL !**
If I was a betting man, Joshua Graham probably has a M2 Browining stashed away somewhere
Coolest character in fallout, no one even comes close. I know I'm right about this
I may not be religious, but Joshua and his speech with god just feels... Oddly empowering. Even if you don't believe in god, you could replace the lord with/make the lord an analogy for the world, maybe the people in it, or maybe even you. Either way, Joshua is speaking a truth.
Who is the Lord to you?
@@Xinthose not much to me, but I understand it can be alot to others
@@50blessings52 I will pray for you.
@@Xinthose I appreciate the sentiment
@@Xinthose Dont waste your prayers, God will never guide them. Dont you hear what he says? Replace God with the world, as the two can ever be equated. shows really whom he worships, all of them who say they do not worship anything are infact worshippers of something, be it as pathetic as this world, for this person. and God knows best.
I don't try to talk Joshua down. The White Legs are horrible and would not stop, so I say yes, kill them all. They would not stop after being warned and came again and again and when their intended targets decided to fight back, they got what they deserved. Of course, that's determinant on whether the player decides to side with Joshua or Daniel, but having played both ways and know what happens, I fully side with the man who wants to fight the White Legs. Yes, the Dead Horses and Sorrows become violent in the process, but the world of Fallout is an unforgiving place and they need to learn how to protect themselves from future attacks by other tribes like the White Legs.
Not even I have the patience to inspect a whole shipping crate’s worth of M1911A1s nonstop
If tribes could only use weapons designed by notable makers from their religion then the Mormons are really over powered. B.A.R., the 1911, the HI power, the frigging M2 .50 BMG, Auto shotgun, and so many freaking more incredible guns.
Except the White legs raided Spanish fort and captured Thompson SMGs. Raiders.
The BAR is kind of reputed for being garbage as a light machine gun, though. To the point that the USMC in the Pacific theater used rifles to supress the enemy and the BAR to do the actual killing, the exact opposite of what they were trained to do.
Graham best preacher
God bless your voice Keith Szarabajka, I mean you voiced Joshua Graham AND Mr. Aziz in the Spider-Man 2 game? Legend.
wtf is that profile photo
fallout 4 makes a character that want to swap all living beings into slave cyborgs because uh well he is dying?
new vegas makes a character that is so deep that people still think on their philosophies wills ideals and thoughts
I agree, fallout 4 is way better
19 minutes of bliss
After watching prank calls
It is extremely funny that his VA is also Harbinger over in Mass Effect.
Joshua was Right about one Thing I know "Zion may not be lost to us"
Like this is home, and Home is worth defending even when its futile
I once made a D&D character that was basically a Joshua Graham rip off without noticing until another player pointed it out. I still had fun with that character though.
I felt like after finally meeting him after everyone talking about him, it was like when madara showed up in naruto
Thank you, Keith Szarabajka.
oh Joshua, and your endless pile of 1911s we love you
the best line in the game
"we can't expect god to do all the work"
This animation is still one of the coolest in any fallout game.
This is just my interpretation of Graham, but he knows he's a sinner. He's doing some horrible things in his life, but keeps with his faith. He doesn't know if he's going to hell or not, and that's exactly what makes he's terrifying. He's a doomed man, so he's able to do what he thinks needs to be done
I like your interpretation but I'm afraid it is not exactly accurate. Christianity, which is his religion, is a religion that says that the faithful and repentant will be saved no matter how many times they fall. He would likely have certainty in his salvation as Christians are supposed to. Thats the difference between Christianity and other religions is that God doesn't dangle salvation in front of your face to manipulate you.
@@adenjones1802 That depends on what type of Christian you are, but he's Mormon and Mormons don't have a traditional version of hell so I'm wrong anyway lol
Still, I like my interpretation
@@FuzzyLittleBastard I do find it interesting. The idea of a person who believes they are going to hell but is none the less on Gods side. It would be a cool idea.
@@adenjones1802 Yeah, it'd be a cool character concept. I might do something with that someday.
I need this man’s wisdom in my life. Either in the form of a pastor or therapist.
Dude got an infinite supply of handguns
∞
He is the reason i might play fallout NV again.
A ruthless warlord enforcer turned born again christian willing to risk his own life for the people who need protection from evil. This game sure had some great fucking characters.
Absolute chills
Put a cap in him.
The red leaves in the last scene look like fires raging around Joshua's head
Pretty neat symbolism
"Vengeance is Mine, I will repay," says the Lord. - Romans 12:19
Wonder what his opinion on a kind atheist would be. Like would he respect the lack of faith, would he convert them, or just purge them.
The dialogue option where you mock him, I believe, is him pitying you. He only ever gets cross or angry when you threaten Daniel's safety
"The existence of God does not depend on whether I say he does, or whether you say he does not"
He doesn't seem like the openly violent type, like Caesar. Plus, there's dialogue saying that he's chill about it. He is dangerous for many, many reasons, but not for his faith, apparently.
@@gurixd100 As it turns out, believing in Jesus doesn't inherently make you a genocidal monster. Who would have thought.
@@adenjones1802 anyone without historical knowledge about the massacres promoted by christians.
Anyone else notice Joshua's va was also the didact in halo 4 shame that beautiful voice was so auto tuned that you can barely hear it
He is also the voices of Dark Elves in Skyrim
The thing that bothers me about his gun inspection animation is that he inserts the empty magazine back into the gun then pulls the slide back to release it. The empty magazine would hold it open. He should release the slide then insert the magazine.
Me and the burned man got along well. I play fallout like I'm the saint of killers anyway.
Simply the best DLC character ever
The original voice of Trigon.
Ironic.