I was hoping so hard it would happen, but thought that it was just wishful thinking and they’d just hug at the end. And then it happened and I lost my shit, screaming with joy.
@@PKLO9727 ye i liked how mature it was, no cringe love story and they actualy NEVER in whole game said "I LOVE YOU" very good writing. I remember how i hated Vholran in last battle for trying to ruin their lifes again. "F OFF AND LET THEM BE HAPPY!!! i was mashing controller like crazy,quite emotional finale...
Alphen in particular really makes it clear that he does things of his own volition in a way I don't see enough in RPGs. I can't think of a better character to be the main hero of a story about about freedom and what it really means. :)
So you know that scene where Shionne and Alphen have an argument aftet the botched Dohalim kill? Where Law points out that Alphen only snapped bc he was worried? Noticed how visibly confused Shionne looked? Then cue Law pointing out the obvious and the look of utter shock on her face that *that* was why... It's both very sweet, but eye openingly heartbreaking when you stop and think about just how truly alone Shionne felt up to that point... And then there's the scene where Alphen loses his mask... It really puts into perspective just how much she relied on Alphen as her only real pillar of emotional support... Her hurting him, or just even the thought of hurting him, was enough to make her already fragile heart spiral out of control with despair. Which gets resolved when Alphen, being the biggest chad in Tales history, straight up tanks her thorns full force just to hug her, extreme pain be damned--twice even! ....And there's the fact that Alphen practically fell in love with her at first sight. She's worth hell though.... Underneath the trauma is a very sweet, caring young woman.... who also is a bottomless pit of sheer gluttony. Also, Alphen--like me--is a guy who loves spicy food!
She's your textbook tsundere female character though her act starts to fall apart after the first boss and even more when Dohalim is introduced. Even if her character development is predictable, you can't help but feel giddy with her interactions with Alph
This will be a wall of text of reply, but i just need to let this out somewhere man. Yes, they did excellent job in showing how much Thorn actually destroy her life. The loneliness and despair it cause was shown perfectly in the exact moment Alphen feel pain for the first time *from her*. You can see all hope that she had, all hope that was built together during this whole journey, gone from her face. And when we "destroyed" Renas Alma at final act of part 1, she's back to her old mysterious self. She no longer opens up to us. In the beginning of part 2, when we confronted her and asked what's wrong, she said "you saved me from Vholran, and that's enough for now". I was really confused and actually hurt from that word. Like, what did we do wrong? Why can't you tell us? It wasn't about the curse? It wasn't about Renas Alma? Then, what was it?? Then she finally open up in that scene near the spaceship, and that moment also really sweet. (spoiler from One Piece) Some of her words reminded me of Ace's death, where she lost her resolve to die after all of the journey with us. Before she knew it, she no longer want to die. Goddammit man. From that moment onward i was so ready, soooo ready to fight the whole world for her. When the final cutscene plays, that was good and all. We got to see her kiss with Alphen and hold Rinwell's hand, her curse finally gone. But for me personally, the biggest reward is at the credit, where we know that after all of this fight and struggle on her life, she FINALLY live normally and happily. That final illustration of her smiling with Alphen at the wedding, makes this game probably one of the most rewarding piece of media ever imo. You can't help but feel relieved when knowing all her burden (and knowing how big that burden is throughout the game) finally lifted up from her, and you as a player "takes part" in making that into a reality for her. Dammit, that smile is so worth fighting for. Reminiscing from when they first met, into their wedding, makes me realize how much have happened that finally lead into that final moment. Damn, what a journey.
@@alkalostrytoart1024 between your wall of text and OP's wall of text, i've found my people. i agree with every single letter, 1000%. i loved this game so much for all the reasons you guy mentioned. and this game was such a beautiful emotional journey because of all the nuances you got into.
god yeah that was brutal. i was genuinely shocked. up until then you were so used to him being immune to pain and when he screams you're just like OMFG WHAT
@@sLasHeRxXx07 i think she's been traumatized all her life by people being afraid of her. alphen, and by extension his buddies, were the first time people weren't automatically afraid of/hateful of her. she was just barely starting to let herself trust him, and then this happened. i think it just shocked her back into her baseline mindset, which was "I'm always going to be alone and I'm going to die soon." i think that's also why alphen embracing her despite being able to feel the pain now was so important -- it truly proved to her that it wasn't just that he couldn't feel the pain, it was that he didn't care about the pain so long as he could be with her. that's why it was only after that, that she finally just go of her painful loner mindset and let herself be part of the crew.
@@seraphik her loner mentality resurfaced during the final parts of the game tho. Alphen had to chase her down and yell at her like an abusive husband to get her to truly open up.
@@sLasHeRxXx07 you mean when she tried to fly off to lenegis by herself? that's what i mean -- between this incident and that intervention, she had retreated back into loner mentality. he broke through to her again by embracing her (literally/figuratively). i don't remember her being a loner after that? in fact i remember a super meaningful moment when she was stuck on a collapsing platform and he put his hand out to her, thorns be damned. they kinda shared this look of determination and understanding before she jumped and he caught her.
It fills me with joy to see so many people in the comments below gushing over this mushy love story. Never thought I'd be into a game like this, but DAMN if I wasn't rooting for those 2 at the very end! After I beat my playthrough and got to the end animation and credits it was the most fulfilling thing ever to see those 2 married. They are twin flames for each other and thank God we get a game that isn't afraid to see characters live happily ever after. Alphens and Shionnes overwhelming love for each other and will to live and be together literally merges two planets together to bring harmony to everyone around them. Such a good ending!
Same here! Just finished the main story and I can't get the ending out of my head. It was so beautiful and I'm so happy to see that it touched and moved so many other fans as well.
soooo agree. i have no shame, i shipped them from the moment i saw the trailer and i'm so glad they delivered. i was 95% sure they were gonna have a sad ending but man they just gave it all to us, didn't they?
@@deathbykonami5487 Really? Dohalim and Kisara hook up? I always knew Alphen and Shionne will be an official couple and was certain that Law and Rinwell will get some serious ship tease as well but I wasn't sure what to expect from Dohalim and Kisara, especially since they are the only ones I didn't find all that much teasing from while spoiling myself. They really do hook up?
@@deathbykonami5487 I've still got to wait a couple of days until I can finally play the game and see what happens for myseld but I'll trust your word for now. I do ship them as well after all.
I was literally crying when I found out that Shionne was just working towards her death. But didn't want to die anymore after she met all of them. It breaks my heart hearing it every time
I can't believe the day has finally arrived when a Tales of has a canon romance, I'm soooo happy. I know there's already been Tales of games with implied love stories but nothing was canon (hello Lloyd and Colette or Luke and Tear)... I'm glad they heard our prayers, Alphen and Shionne really do belong together after all 😭
In over 30 years of gaming this is hands down my favorite romance. And the English VAs were perfect, their performances really drove it home for me. GOTY '21 for me without question.
it was love at first sight and they're both so clueless about it. it's so incredibly adorable. though, I do wonder how awkward it had to be for the rest of the party when Alphen and Shionne have their moments.
And, as a bonus, while many Tales games have romances, they usually shy away from actually showing intimacy, even Hearts off-screened the kiss. I think Destiny was the only other one to even have marriage for the main romance.
@@POKENAR Technically speaking it is implied that Asbel and Cheria did hook up and marry also based on the last scene after the credits its just not slammed into your face like Stahn x Rutee
I feel it so much when she said "I wish we had never met! Then I wouldn't have to feel this way!" Thats my thoughts about some persons in my life. It brings tears into my eyes
BEST SHIP Edit: 51:44, 55:25 (her smile 😭), 55:32, 55:50, 56:20, 56:41, lives rent free in my head 😭💗 gosh when Shionne silences Alphen with her finger and says "No, you can tell me once my thorns are gone. Okay?" is the absolute cutest interaction from her in the entire game. AAAAA Also, Shionne's maiden outfit is easily the prettiest thing EVER. 😭💗💗💗💗💗 Best girl. Edit 2: Thank you for posting this, because I rewatch these cutscenes so, so much! These two (both Shionne and Alphen) and this game as a whole just means the world to me 😭💗 it is such a genuinely heartwarming, extremely memorable, fairytale love story. The game doesn't even allow you to replay cutscenes so this is very valuable.
@@BinaryPLUR yea...I was alluding to how in Japan they don't really say I love you. And that he was supposed to say it after her thorns were gone because when he was about to tell her before she told him to wait.
Finally! A definite Romance in a Tales Game! Can't wait to play mine, I'll have it tomorrow! And I don't mind spoilers tbh coz I still don't know the story, I just wanted to know about mah boy Alphen and Shionne
Still in chapter 2. And I'm currently taking a teaspoon of spoilers and all I can say is this is the only game BNEI went all out on romance. I know there's DOTNW, Graces, Destiny and Hearts but this one didn't pull any punches in display of affection
Tales of graces had a definite romance, Hubert and Pascal, as well as Asbel and Cheria. Tales of Abyss with Luke and Tear, Symphonia DOTNW between Emil and Marta. Phantasia, Cress and Mint.
the story was really interesting, full of plot twists......after i beaten the game the ending got me crying like a new born baby.....i been waiting for that kiss throughout the entire game and the wedding caught me by suprise....i am a bit sad now that the story has ended, hopefully there will be Arise 2 in future
I hope so, there’s still some unexplained stuff, and volrhan just disappears with renas alma. Also the achievement beat 200 “non dlc” enemies made me think they’d bring some more dlc. Hope this does well enough and they think some sort of sequel.
@@pudgemiester Volrhan said to Alphen "ill see you in hell" basically then killed himself by blowing the renas alma up. What more went unanswered? Lenegis? I mean maybe. I guess they got merged into Dannah along with Rena. It's safe to assume the residents of Lenigis are on Danah now since Dohalim is still hanging out and at their wedding. What else though? The producer stated this is a complete game with no DLC or sequel planned. What would the sequel be even? They settled down and are in peacetime. There's nothing more that you can do with this story that wouldnt tarnish the first game by forcing a second one. I mean a DLC with Alphen and Shionne being a cutesy newlywed couple would be cool but out of place. Nothing was left open enough to bother creating additional content for to explain.
@@TheXboxSux if anything, they need to return to Berseria/Zestiria's universe! There's still any entire race of... Major Spoilers below Heavenly Seraphim scumbags that need killing!! It's because of them that Humans and Malakhim/Seraphim have so much trouble coexisting!
I don't know about additional DLC, but they did say early in development they intended to develop this as a 100% standalone game. I think the most likely way to get any significant story expansion would be in the form of an Arise+ version based on the game's success, much like DQ11S or P5 Royal.
@@saberz7027 It was obvious they were going to use him as a plot catalyst when he was never able to be controlled. He's the kindle that lights Alphens fire (pun intended) and forces Law to find a new resolve. He also embodies the philosophy(s) that become staples of the group throughout their story.
@@TheXboxSux Not that I complaining about his death, but I just wish we spend a little bit more time with him to make us attached to him. It will make his death a bit more sad rather than "What just happened" kind of reaction.
@@saberz7027 Yeah the pacing of his death was rather sudden and felt forced to facilitate laws character. Makes you wonder though if having him around longer would have undermined the other characters development.
@@TheXboxSux I totally agree with you guys about his death. Although its sad, its not as impactful as we thought it would be because its a bit too early
I fell in love with them. Not because they are cute, there is that also,but mainly because there love breaks enemy races stereotipes, Shionne not only she had wall, she also had tornes on it, litteraly, horibble past...
@@1999Almaz and toward the end its dialogues like alphen saying how he couldn't live without her and her saying this might not be the right time... or when one dies in battle the other just screams in pain.
I love Alphen & Shionne's storyline but I can't help but feel a bit jealous that Luke & Tear didn't get the same kind of epilogue at the end of TotA. All we get is a brief scene of them reunited.
I get that it was for the sake of some ambiguity regarding the end but yeah I agree they def deserved a stronger reunion. They were really cute. Only other Tales couple I like as much as these two.. well as far as canon instead of just implied is concerned.
One things I always enjoyed in the Tales of franchise was the little romance sub-plots entries had since all the way back in Phantasia. I'm happy someone on the Arise team said to bring this back with a vengeance after a couple of games didn't do this in recent time, because Alphen & Shionne are great together! -It still gets me in the back of my mind how this relationship is just reincarnated Artorius & Magilou,- but I *still* love this relationship regardless!
I don't mind not having a prequel or sequel but I hope we get a DLC seeing how all 3 couples are doing especially Alphen and Shionne. That's something I wanna see
Though Persona 5, unlike Tales of Arise, also has 2 sad endings (the first being selling out your friends to Sae and getting actually killed by Akechi, the second being accepting Yaldaboeth’s deal).
Poetic then, that 300 years after being saved by Naori, Alphen ends up saving and falling in love with her descendant. The question is how does Naori even have a line of descendants? Was Shionne the product of a lab, or was some poor (or masochistic) guy at the end of some electrifying sex?
@@1999Almaz : Yeah, plus she can suppress them at will, so it might be enough to nullify the effect where in Shionne's case it's gotten to severe to suppress entirely.
So satisfying to see a canon romance in a piece of mainstream Japanese media. Sadly something you don't see a lot of these days. Ship it like hell tho 🥰
The only Tales game I ever played before this was Abyss. Spent years imagining a payoff for Luke and Tear's relationship at the end of that game. I am quite happy that I didn't have to for this one. Haha
There White garb makes them look Senel and Kanonno from past Tales games. Although Alphen looks more like one of the prince characters from Revolutionary Girl Utena (not Akio cause he's an asshole).
I kinda wish ppl would stop complaining about thumbnails or titles being 'too spoiler-y'. Just having these videos and/or watching them *BEFORE* the game is out for most everybody else is already spoiling by default. Just ignore/don't watch the videos then. Tbf, I would've waited til Friday to even post these, but too late now. All that being said... *SHIONNE x ALPHEN FTW!!!!*
@@sLasHeRxXx07 Do you mean the post credits scene? Tbh, I thini this is the 2nd game that outright pairs off the 2 main MCs. I think the 1st most straighr up example are Stahn and Katrie from Destiny since they actually had a kid... and, y'know, cuz Destiny 2 happened. ...And, I'd like to put Luke and Tear from Abyss in there, but considering the ending.... Honestly, mostly implied/optional events that don't even really affect the ending... Straight up romance is either subplot/implied, or optional. Arise actually goes out of its way to point out that this game is like, 50% grand romance... and goddamn did they get it right! Oh, and Rinwell liking Law reminds me how old I am considering how well they pulled off the subtle hints and given how they act.
Not talking about omega specifically, but everytime a game comes out people get kinda careless about titles/thumbnails. Earlier this year i got spoiled on Bravely Default 2 before it officially released by another youtuber because of the thumbnail plus title. I didn't watch the actual video, it just appeared on my recommended because I had previously watched trailers I don't mind when people upload stuff early, I just wanted to point out that it can be done while also being considerate to people who haven't even gotten the game yet
The problem is really more on RUclips's end. To this day they don't allow anyone to collapse the recommended videos section, and if you're waiting eagerly for a game, that section will be flooded with videos you actually don't want to see anymore because RUclips keeps track of that interest and looks for more. If the title/thumnail give you the info you don't want, too late. After all, it's impossible to look at something and realize it's something you didn't want to know without comprehending that information. The phrase 'don't like it don't read it' is nonsensical because of that. XD
@@joryharris8002 Lol by the time it got to that point those two were so in love they didn't need to use words. I'm sure there was plenty "i love you's" at the wedding. I think the ending scene where shionne jumps into his arms for a kiss without awkward dialogue is perfect. You can tell shes been wanting to do that SO BAD for at least 50% of the story and her overwhelming joy that she finally can now makes her spring into Alphens arms.
@@TheXboxSux I point it out because in Japan they don't really say I love you and I would like that to change. Or I would at least like them to include it more in western translations. I agree with you 100% I feel like they said I love you through their actions. HOWEVER, at one point Main guy was about to say it and was hushed and told to wait until thorns were gone........... As to why I don't play the game. I do not have the time for JRPGs. I love the stories, but the gameplay is often grindy.
Pretty sure the producer said that Arise's will have no story DLC. Though I wouldn't put it past them to make a drama cd post Arise or a sketch of Alphen and Shionne holding their newborn child or something
Am I the only person who doesnt want there to be a sequel? Not because I dont want more of their adventures but because I dont want to see their happy ending ruined. By the end Alphen and Shionne are so powerful together they can basically obliterate the world if they felt like it. To have any conflict would require one or both of them to die/be permanently injured. And If their kid was the next protag then you just know one of them will be killed protecting the kid so that they have motivation to go on their adventure.
I think there’s other channel who even posted thumbnail of their KISSING and that for me is a MAJOR SPOILER as it telling the thorn will be successfully discarded. I’m one of who unlucky enough to see that thumbnail and after finish the game on the last scene it didn’t give me bigger impact as it should be just because I knew they will succeed and Shion won’t die. Gggrrhh!!!
Jesus, this dub is so trash that I really feel sorry for anyone that is using the dub. I generally shouldn't be sorry for people that are purposely destroying whole characterization but still.
You know, there are plenty of actually good, solid reasons to prefer the original language, especially when it comes to Japanese -> English translation. If it weren't for the whole culture of people being huge assholes about it, I don't think anyone would mind. This issue just seems to get worse and worse for people and it doesn't have to.
@@abdisaputra694 Check op 2. The game is meant to be understood as trash. Japan has fun with Tales this way (Gintama-like franchise about ALIENS without the 4th wall with this franchise is in Japan), but the second opening is bliss. Well... for TRUE fans I mean. See how many people write about KANONNO here already?))))
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I love these two so much. So much character development and bonding. There are no words to describe my love for this game.
Almost did a backflip when they kissed out of pure joy and I do not even know how to do a backflip. XD
Where did they kiss?
@@Zuzu567 happens at the end of the game. After final boss.
So you fell head over heels for these two then? XD
I was hoping so hard it would happen, but thought that it was just wishful thinking and they’d just hug at the end. And then it happened and I lost my shit, screaming with joy.
It was only an almost backflip because you don't know how to do a backflip
10:22 I love how kisara immediately picks up on what Alphen is doing.
She gave me Mom vibes the entirety of the game
haha yea
Finally some jrpg where adults actually behave like adults.
Ikr! I'm glad they made these Characters more like Regular People who are Adults lol
@@PKLO9727 ye i liked how mature it was, no cringe love story and they actualy NEVER in whole game said "I LOVE YOU" very good writing.
I remember how i hated Vholran in last battle for trying to ruin their lifes again.
"F OFF AND LET THEM BE HAPPY!!!
i was mashing controller like crazy,quite emotional finale...
Adults are just egotistical children at the end of the day.
@@luiserodriguezserrano2362 this sounds like something a wisecracking anime character would say
Alphen in particular really makes it clear that he does things of his own volition in a way I don't see enough in RPGs. I can't think of a better character to be the main hero of a story about about freedom and what it really means. :)
“They should get a room” I love kisara
My literal response to that line when I was playing the game. “Moooommm! Don’t say things like that in front of my friends!” Kisara is amazing 😂
So you know that scene where Shionne and Alphen have an argument aftet the botched Dohalim kill?
Where Law points out that Alphen only snapped bc he was worried?
Noticed how visibly confused Shionne looked?
Then cue Law pointing out the obvious and the look of utter shock on her face that *that* was why...
It's both very sweet, but eye openingly heartbreaking when you stop and think about just how truly alone Shionne felt up to that point...
And then there's the scene where Alphen loses his mask...
It really puts into perspective just how much she relied on Alphen as her only real pillar of emotional support...
Her hurting him, or just even the thought of hurting him, was enough to make her already fragile heart spiral out of control with despair.
Which gets resolved when Alphen, being the biggest chad in Tales history, straight up tanks her thorns full force just to hug her, extreme pain be damned--twice even!
....And there's the fact that Alphen practically fell in love with her at first sight.
She's worth hell though....
Underneath the trauma is a very sweet, caring young woman.... who also is a bottomless pit of sheer gluttony.
Also, Alphen--like me--is a guy who loves spicy food!
You sir get a like for this
She's your textbook tsundere female character though her act starts to fall apart after the first boss and even more when Dohalim is introduced. Even if her character development is predictable, you can't help but feel giddy with her interactions with Alph
Me too man, me too.
This will be a wall of text of reply, but i just need to let this out somewhere man.
Yes, they did excellent job in showing how much Thorn actually destroy her life. The loneliness and despair it cause was shown perfectly in the exact moment Alphen feel pain for the first time *from her*. You can see all hope that she had, all hope that was built together during this whole journey, gone from her face.
And when we "destroyed" Renas Alma at final act of part 1, she's back to her old mysterious self. She no longer opens up to us. In the beginning of part 2, when we confronted her and asked what's wrong, she said "you saved me from Vholran, and that's enough for now". I was really confused and actually hurt from that word. Like, what did we do wrong? Why can't you tell us? It wasn't about the curse? It wasn't about Renas Alma? Then, what was it??
Then she finally open up in that scene near the spaceship, and that moment also really sweet. (spoiler from One Piece) Some of her words reminded me of Ace's death, where she lost her resolve to die after all of the journey with us. Before she knew it, she no longer want to die. Goddammit man.
From that moment onward i was so ready, soooo ready to fight the whole world for her.
When the final cutscene plays, that was good and all. We got to see her kiss with Alphen and hold Rinwell's hand, her curse finally gone.
But for me personally, the biggest reward is at the credit, where we know that after all of this fight and struggle on her life, she FINALLY live normally and happily. That final illustration of her smiling with Alphen at the wedding, makes this game probably one of the most rewarding piece of media ever imo. You can't help but feel relieved when knowing all her burden (and knowing how big that burden is throughout the game) finally lifted up from her, and you as a player "takes part" in making that into a reality for her. Dammit, that smile is so worth fighting for. Reminiscing from when they first met, into their wedding, makes me realize how much have happened that finally lead into that final moment. Damn, what a journey.
@@alkalostrytoart1024 between your wall of text and OP's wall of text, i've found my people. i agree with every single letter, 1000%. i loved this game so much for all the reasons you guy mentioned. and this game was such a beautiful emotional journey because of all the nuances you got into.
There relationship was so beautiful, it was so painful watching shionne breakdown after she hurt alphen for the first time
god yeah that was brutal. i was genuinely shocked. up until then you were so used to him being immune to pain and when he screams you're just like OMFG WHAT
One question is why she gave up on the team just for that. Lmao
@@sLasHeRxXx07 i think she's been traumatized all her life by people being afraid of her. alphen, and by extension his buddies, were the first time people weren't automatically afraid of/hateful of her. she was just barely starting to let herself trust him, and then this happened. i think it just shocked her back into her baseline mindset, which was "I'm always going to be alone and I'm going to die soon." i think that's also why alphen embracing her despite being able to feel the pain now was so important -- it truly proved to her that it wasn't just that he couldn't feel the pain, it was that he didn't care about the pain so long as he could be with her. that's why it was only after that, that she finally just go of her painful loner mindset and let herself be part of the crew.
@@seraphik her loner mentality resurfaced during the final parts of the game tho. Alphen had to chase her down and yell at her like an abusive husband to get her to truly open up.
@@sLasHeRxXx07 you mean when she tried to fly off to lenegis by herself? that's what i mean -- between this incident and that intervention, she had retreated back into loner mentality. he broke through to her again by embracing her (literally/figuratively). i don't remember her being a loner after that? in fact i remember a super meaningful moment when she was stuck on a collapsing platform and he put his hand out to her, thorns be damned. they kinda shared this look of determination and understanding before she jumped and he caught her.
It fills me with joy to see so many people in the comments below gushing over this mushy love story. Never thought I'd be into a game like this, but DAMN if I wasn't rooting for those 2 at the very end! After I beat my playthrough and got to the end animation and credits it was the most fulfilling thing ever to see those 2 married. They are twin flames for each other and thank God we get a game that isn't afraid to see characters live happily ever after. Alphens and Shionnes overwhelming love for each other and will to live and be together literally merges two planets together to bring harmony to everyone around them. Such a good ending!
Same here! Just finished the main story and I can't get the ending out of my head. It was so beautiful and I'm so happy to see that it touched and moved so many other fans as well.
soooo agree. i have no shame, i shipped them from the moment i saw the trailer and i'm so glad they delivered. i was 95% sure they were gonna have a sad ending but man they just gave it all to us, didn't they?
It honestly surprised me. We haven’t had a truly happy ending in a Tales game for awhile. Berseria was just extremely bittersweet.
I’m really happy they both got married at the end of the game
Yea that’s how you do a happy ever after
2 Renans got Dahnan spouses (Shionne x Alphena and Dohalim x Kisara).
@@deathbykonami5487 Really? Dohalim and Kisara hook up? I always knew Alphen and Shionne will be an official couple and was certain that Law and Rinwell will get some serious ship tease as well but I wasn't sure what to expect from Dohalim and Kisara, especially since they are the only ones I didn't find all that much teasing from while spoiling myself. They really do hook up?
@@phanboy8059 There's obviously chemistry there, and that final picture proves it
@@deathbykonami5487 I've still got to wait a couple of days until I can finally play the game and see what happens for myseld but I'll trust your word for now. I do ship them as well after all.
I was literally crying when I found out that Shionne was just working towards her death. But didn't want to die anymore after she met all of them. It breaks my heart hearing it every time
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Honestly, that may have been one of the best scenes in video game history. It still hits me hard whenever I watch it 😅
I can't believe the day has finally arrived when a Tales of has a canon romance, I'm soooo happy. I know there's already been Tales of games with implied love stories but nothing was canon (hello Lloyd and Colette or Luke and Tear)... I'm glad they heard our prayers, Alphen and Shionne really do belong together after all 😭
Right! I thought They never would but freaking finally!
Emil x Marta? Asbel x Cheria? Stan x Rutee? Shing x Kohak? Kyle x Reala?
@@sLasHeRxXx07 Pascal X Hubert, Luke X Tear, Cress X Mint.
@@theflyingdropbear2009 those were just implied romance. They weren't realized in their games
And they actually kissed ON SCREEN.
This need an anime adaptation asap!
1:12:46 Awww they had a wedding! So lovely and simple. They both deserve each other.
In over 30 years of gaming this is hands down my favorite romance. And the English VAs were perfect, their performances really drove it home for me. GOTY '21 for me without question.
it was love at first sight and they're both so clueless about it. it's so incredibly adorable. though, I do wonder how awkward it had to be for the rest of the party when Alphen and Shionne have their moments.
There's a skit where Shionne and Alphen talking about "make something together" that should've been in this video 😂😂
Yeah that one was funny AF.
@@TheXboxSux Shionne: "What did you think I was saying"
Alphen: "For the sake of our sanity, I cannot answer that question"
Shionne: "... Fair enough"
@@deinonychus1948 I need to watch that skit in English. I did In Japanese and I found it so hard not to laugh-
If only they let us roam around the world after her thorn is gone :(
DLC is upon us, your wish became true)
They got their nice, warm house with a roof and a proper fireplace. Damn. They got me 😭😭😭
This is how english dubs should be done for all JRPG’s. Like DAMN the emotions i can hear with characters. My GOTY for 2021.
After so many things with "ship-teasing" and "unresolved love tension" from past two games, it's great to see main couple in Bandai Namco Tales Game.
Tale's fans : IT'S ABOUT TIME
And, as a bonus, while many Tales games have romances, they usually shy away from actually showing intimacy, even Hearts off-screened the kiss. I think Destiny was the only other one to even have marriage for the main romance.
Past two games? Almost all Tales games have unresolved romance
@@POKENAR Technically speaking it is implied that Asbel and Cheria did hook up and marry also based on the last scene after the credits its just not slammed into your face like Stahn x Rutee
I feel it so much when she said "I wish we had never met! Then I wouldn't have to feel this way!" Thats my thoughts about some persons in my life. It brings tears into my eyes
This Tales Of deserves an adaptation to an anime of about 24 chapters.
No way give it 40 something, otherwise it be rushed as hell like those other Bamco anime adaptions.
Holy shit, a jrpg where they didn't leave it ambiguous? Never thought I'd see the day
And this is why I love the "Tales of" series
Same
I haven't seen an Ending this wholesome in a really long time
from enemies, to frenemies, to one sided, to mutual,
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to just got married
BEST SHIP
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51:44, 55:25 (her smile 😭), 55:32, 55:50, 56:20, 56:41, lives rent free in my head 😭💗 gosh when Shionne silences Alphen with her finger and says "No, you can tell me once my thorns are gone. Okay?" is the absolute cutest interaction from her in the entire game. AAAAA
Also, Shionne's maiden outfit is easily the prettiest thing EVER. 😭💗💗💗💗💗
Best girl.
Edit 2: Thank you for posting this, because I rewatch these cutscenes so, so much! These two (both Shionne and Alphen) and this game as a whole just means the world to me 😭💗 it is such a genuinely heartwarming, extremely memorable, fairytale love story. The game doesn't even allow you to replay cutscenes so this is very valuable.
he forgot to say it after her thorns were gone tho...
@@joryharris8002 To be fair, I think the ending of the game between them exemplifies that enough. Regardless, I'm so happy for them ;w;
@@BinaryPLUR yea...I was alluding to how in Japan they don't really say I love you. And that he was supposed to say it after her thorns were gone because when he was about to tell her before she told him to wait.
@@joryharris8002 Ah okay, yeah, I totally get that.
Well. You pretty much summed up what I felt. 👍
Finally! A definite Romance in a Tales Game! Can't wait to play mine, I'll have it tomorrow! And I don't mind spoilers tbh coz I still don't know the story, I just wanted to know about mah boy Alphen and Shionne
Yup
Still in chapter 2. And I'm currently taking a teaspoon of spoilers and all I can say is this is the only game BNEI went all out on romance. I know there's DOTNW, Graces, Destiny and Hearts but this one didn't pull any punches in display of affection
Didn't Tales of Hearts have a legit romance
@@williamcorey4700 it did. But like the other Tales games, it pulled its punches when it came to intimacy
Tales of graces had a definite romance, Hubert and Pascal, as well as Asbel and Cheria.
Tales of Abyss with Luke and Tear, Symphonia DOTNW between Emil and Marta. Phantasia, Cress and Mint.
the story was really interesting, full of plot twists......after i beaten the game the ending got me crying like a new born baby.....i been waiting for that kiss throughout the entire game and the wedding caught me by suprise....i am a bit sad now that the story has ended, hopefully there will be Arise 2 in future
I hope so, there’s still some unexplained stuff, and volrhan just disappears with renas alma. Also the achievement beat 200 “non dlc” enemies made me think they’d bring some more dlc. Hope this does well enough and they think some sort of sequel.
@@pudgemiester Volrhan said to Alphen "ill see you in hell" basically then killed himself by blowing the renas alma up. What more went unanswered? Lenegis? I mean maybe. I guess they got merged into Dannah along with Rena. It's safe to assume the residents of Lenigis are on Danah now since Dohalim is still hanging out and at their wedding. What else though? The producer stated this is a complete game with no DLC or sequel planned. What would the sequel be even? They settled down and are in peacetime. There's nothing more that you can do with this story that wouldnt tarnish the first game by forcing a second one. I mean a DLC with Alphen and Shionne being a cutesy newlywed couple would be cool but out of place. Nothing was left open enough to bother creating additional content for to explain.
@@TheXboxSux if anything, they need to return to Berseria/Zestiria's universe! There's still any entire race of...
Major Spoilers below
Heavenly Seraphim scumbags that need killing!! It's because of them that Humans and Malakhim/Seraphim have so much trouble coexisting!
I don't know about additional DLC, but they did say early in development they intended to develop this as a 100% standalone game. I think the most likely way to get any significant story expansion would be in the form of an Arise+ version based on the game's success, much like DQ11S or P5 Royal.
Spoilers:
I'm happy that they got married but also sad because Zephyr didn't live long enough to see them together
I mean he died early. Too early in fact
@@saberz7027 It was obvious they were going to use him as a plot catalyst when he was never able to be controlled. He's the kindle that lights Alphens fire (pun intended) and forces Law to find a new resolve. He also embodies the philosophy(s) that become staples of the group throughout their story.
@@TheXboxSux Not that I complaining about his death, but I just wish we spend a little bit more time with him to make us attached to him. It will make his death a bit more sad rather than "What just happened" kind of reaction.
@@saberz7027 Yeah the pacing of his death was rather sudden and felt forced to facilitate laws character. Makes you wonder though if having him around longer would have undermined the other characters development.
@@TheXboxSux I totally agree with you guys about his death. Although its sad, its not as impactful as we thought it would be because its a bit too early
44:04 Alphen become the man of wholesome chad
I fell in love with them. Not because they are cute, there is that also,but mainly because there love breaks enemy races stereotipes, Shionne not only she had wall, she also had tornes on it, litteraly, horibble past...
Impressive as always
And here I thought I was improving
No, I mean you’re better than ever
Wow. I’ve never seen Shionne look so flustered
And there's cute dialogue then Shionne gets leveled up - Alphen praises her and Shionne surprised he watches her every move
@@1999Almaz and toward the end its dialogues like alphen saying how he couldn't live without her and her saying this might not be the right time... or when one dies in battle the other just screams in pain.
1:05:36 As Cyborg from Teen Titans would say "Well it's about time."
For me... this is the best love history that I experimented in a videogame, they are cute together🥰
I love Alphen & Shionne's storyline but I can't help but feel a bit jealous that Luke & Tear didn't get the same kind of epilogue at the end of TotA. All we get is a brief scene of them reunited.
I get that it was for the sake of some ambiguity regarding the end but yeah I agree they def deserved a stronger reunion. They were really cute. Only other Tales couple I like as much as these two.. well as far as canon instead of just implied is concerned.
And even then we don't even know if it was "Luke" that came back or not.
I ship Shionne and Alphen so hard
Also 20:29, absolute chad statement. Alphen really is a man's man.
32:21 is my favorite skit in the entire game. It’s so wholesome
Omggg finally !! Been so long since we’ve seen a good romance in JRPG ! Thank you !! Would love to see this in Japanese dubbed 🤣
there are japanese voice settings if thats your thing.
Ugh I just love this whole cast ❤
i love them so much
Me too
One things I always enjoyed in the Tales of franchise was the little romance sub-plots entries had since all the way back in Phantasia. I'm happy someone on the Arise team said to bring this back with a vengeance after a couple of games didn't do this in recent time, because Alphen & Shionne are great together!
-It still gets me in the back of my mind how this relationship is just reincarnated Artorius & Magilou,- but I *still* love this relationship regardless!
Alphen gives a whole speech super emotional while being shocked
(ALPHEN SCREAMING INTERNERALLY)
4:12 hahaha Tilsa listening to Alphen and Shionne xDD
I don't mind not having a prequel or sequel but I hope we get a DLC seeing how all 3 couples are doing especially Alphen and Shionne. That's something I wanna see
Drama cd. Or some illustration by Iwamoto. Probably Alph and Shionne holding their newborn child
I at least wanted to be there for the wedding let us watch that whole thing
@@sLasHeRxXx07 That should have been Post Credits scene if you ask me
@@legendsstar7630 but it ain't sadly
There's always fanfiction.
POV: You came here for Ray Chase's godlike voice XD
"You can't die before your death" has major "people die when they are killed" vibes
Hehehe I actually like their chemistry.
Did you cut the audio from the final scenes because of youtube's copyright policy?
This and Persona 5 are proof that a story can be as dark as it wants and still have a happy ending.
Though Persona 5, unlike Tales of Arise, also has 2 sad endings (the first being selling out your friends to Sae and getting actually killed by Akechi, the second being accepting Yaldaboeth’s deal).
@@TMX1138 Those endings aren't canon, though.
@@joseph86255 I know. I was just saying that in comparison, this game doesn’t have bad endings.
I'd change P5 to P4 since the latter has a more wholesome ending
@@sLasHeRxXx07 Persona 4 doesn't count as it's really lighthearted.
This is like a Shojo manga❤
This what I wanted, a conclusions love story.
Always loved that the devs added in the house they talked about having in game during camp scene
I just going to play this game for this two.
Poetic then, that 300 years after being saved by Naori, Alphen ends up saving and falling in love with her descendant. The question is how does Naori even have a line of descendants? Was Shionne the product of a lab, or was some poor (or masochistic) guy at the end of some electrifying sex?
Perhaps thorns wasnt so strong back then, or she could supress them fully. Remember, if Rena's Great Spirit gets stronger - thorns gets stronger
@@1999Almaz : Yeah, plus she can suppress them at will, so it might be enough to nullify the effect where in Shionne's case it's gotten to severe to suppress entirely.
So satisfying to see a canon romance in a piece of mainstream Japanese media. Sadly something you don't see a lot of these days. Ship it like hell tho 🥰
best game of "Tales of"
Your missing the scene in Cycloden where Shionne slaps Alphen to put some sense into him
Idk nothing about this game and I'm loving it
The only Tales game I ever played before this was Abyss. Spent years imagining a payoff for Luke and Tear's relationship at the end of that game.
I am quite happy that I didn't have to for this one. Haha
When the whole gang affirming shionne shes not alone going to lenegis and the 2nd opening song played 👌👌 this game mann, my eyesss
Kisara saying they should get a room though XD
I see you too are a fan of the Noble Crimson and RInwell's slightly darker toned costume. :)
There White garb makes them look Senel and Kanonno from past Tales games. Although Alphen looks more like one of the prince characters from Revolutionary Girl Utena (not Akio cause he's an asshole).
Whats the track name at 56:40? Its pretty hype
Okay Alphen Shionne is a great couple but why is no one talking about Hootle having a partner owl at 1:12:50 ???????
Did they remove music at the end?
11:26-14:36 this man stole Sephiroth's flow word for word bar for bar
This game had no right to be as good as it was…
I just playing this game and only finish cyslodia chapter. I m spoiled now. AND I M FINE WITH IT. NOW I HAVE TO SEE HOW THOSE 2 INTO MARRIAGE
14:12 That scream though.
Im glad they got married
Shionne: What is it
Alphen as Iron Mask at the time: Can I just stare for like 5 more minutes? Please?
I pretty much guessed she voiced Vita from Cold Steel 😄
I wonder when was the moment that shionne fell for alphen and vice versa
The moment when Alphen helped her get over her PTSD in Ganath Haros
What is spoilery about this thumbnail? It doesn't tell you crap. Why are people complaining.
I kinda wish ppl would stop complaining about thumbnails or titles being 'too spoiler-y'.
Just having these videos and/or watching them *BEFORE* the game is out for most everybody else is already spoiling by default.
Just ignore/don't watch the videos then.
Tbf, I would've waited til Friday to even post these, but too late now.
All that being said...
*SHIONNE x ALPHEN FTW!!!!*
Shionne x Alphen shippers in for a nasty surprise playing blind
@@sLasHeRxXx07
Do you mean the post credits scene?
Tbh, I thini this is the 2nd game that outright pairs off the 2 main MCs.
I think the 1st most straighr up example are Stahn and Katrie from Destiny since they actually had a kid... and, y'know, cuz Destiny 2 happened.
...And, I'd like to put Luke and Tear from Abyss in there, but considering the ending....
Honestly, mostly implied/optional events that don't even really affect the ending...
Straight up romance is either subplot/implied, or optional.
Arise actually goes out of its way to point out that this game is like, 50% grand romance... and goddamn did they get it right!
Oh, and Rinwell liking Law reminds me how old I am considering how well they pulled off the subtle hints and given how they act.
Not talking about omega specifically, but everytime a game comes out people get kinda careless about titles/thumbnails. Earlier this year i got spoiled on Bravely Default 2 before it officially released by another youtuber because of the thumbnail plus title. I didn't watch the actual video, it just appeared on my recommended because I had previously watched trailers
I don't mind when people upload stuff early, I just wanted to point out that it can be done while also being considerate to people who haven't even gotten the game yet
The problem is really more on RUclips's end. To this day they don't allow anyone to collapse the recommended videos section, and if you're waiting eagerly for a game, that section will be flooded with videos you actually don't want to see anymore because RUclips keeps track of that interest and looks for more.
If the title/thumnail give you the info you don't want, too late. After all, it's impossible to look at something and realize it's something you didn't want to know without comprehending that information. The phrase 'don't like it don't read it' is nonsensical because of that. XD
You miss the Lenegis scene, that is kinda minor but still beautiful
0:50 Did he freeze?
Shionne sounds a lot like Futaba from Persona 5
Same voice actress
Damn I just defeat third lord only to find I still have more than an hour of Shion and Alphen bonding.
Same here! Just defeated the witch and was shocked seeing how much more content this game has. I thought I'm 3/4 done
MAAAARRRRIIIIIAAAAAAGGGGE
Why was shionne so bent on getting some new clothes?
1:05:36 god damn that was the most hard-earned kiss ever.
Does he ever say I love you?
Nope but was close to
I cant live without you and I cant imagine life without you a few times though
@@axionlightedge6108 well, he was supposed to after se was cured from the thorns.
@@joryharris8002 Lol by the time it got to that point those two were so in love they didn't need to use words. I'm sure there was plenty "i love you's" at the wedding. I think the ending scene where shionne jumps into his arms for a kiss without awkward dialogue is perfect. You can tell shes been wanting to do that SO BAD for at least 50% of the story and her overwhelming joy that she finally can now makes her spring into Alphens arms.
@@TheXboxSux I point it out because in Japan they don't really say I love you and I would like that to change. Or I would at least like them to include it more in western translations. I agree with you 100% I feel like they said I love you through their actions. HOWEVER, at one point Main guy was about to say it and was hushed and told to wait until thorns were gone...........
As to why I don't play the game. I do not have the time for JRPGs. I love the stories, but the gameplay is often grindy.
Here's hoping they have a kid and he/she becomes the next tales protag!
Pretty sure the producer said that Arise's will have no story DLC. Though I wouldn't put it past them to make a drama cd post Arise or a sketch of Alphen and Shionne holding their newborn child or something
@@sLasHeRxXx07 There's still Vholran with Renas Alma. I doubt he just hide and die from old age with such power in his hands
@@1999Almaz bastard blew himself up. He was a villain to the end
Am I the only person who doesnt want there to be a sequel? Not because I dont want more of their adventures but because I dont want to see their happy ending ruined.
By the end Alphen and Shionne are so powerful together they can basically obliterate the world if they felt like it. To have any conflict would require one or both of them to die/be permanently injured.
And If their kid was the next protag then you just know one of them will be killed protecting the kid so that they have motivation to go on their adventure.
Dear kiseki falcom, this is how the true romance, not some BS harem.
Cold steel was mistake...
Rean "Haha"
Does he ever tell her what he was thinking when she changed her clothes?
he does later in the game
@@RasenTon Thanks....So what was it?
@@joryharris8002 Why don't you play and find out? These little cutscenes are the gems in this game that make the journey worth it.
@@TheXboxSux I don't have the time for JRPGs. Gotta watch the youtube movie.
Alphen was captivated by her
Is HOF in honkai impact their child?
First Lunafreya, now Shionne... Noctis, you really have serious problems with relashioships 😐
Ah bummer, I was hoping this would use the JP voices. I'll have to go through again and record them.
Could you change the thumbnail to something less spoilery? A lot of people haven't even started the game yet.
? I dont see what's so spoilery about this thumbnail (unless it was different 2 hours ago) its just Alphen and shionne staring at the sea.
Then don't watch it?
Nothing is Spoiled, Dunno what you're on about
Shut up about thumbnails. You're watching a video full of spoilers. The hell did you expect?
I think there’s other channel who even posted thumbnail of their KISSING and that for me is a MAJOR SPOILER as it telling the thorn will be successfully discarded. I’m one of who unlucky enough to see that thumbnail and after finish the game on the last scene it didn’t give me bigger impact as it should be just because I knew they will succeed and Shion won’t die. Gggrrhh!!!
Not the best tales game out there and not even close to be, but was still really worth playing!
Damn the english dub was so bad. Good thing you can play japanese dub in this game. The lip sync also match the japanese dub.
IKR? I mean, people that are using dubs have literally 0 taste. It's disgusting.
Jesus, this dub is so trash that I really feel sorry for anyone that is using the dub. I generally shouldn't be sorry for people that are purposely destroying whole characterization but still.
You know, there are plenty of actually good, solid reasons to prefer the original language, especially when it comes to Japanese -> English translation. If it weren't for the whole culture of people being huge assholes about it, I don't think anyone would mind. This issue just seems to get worse and worse for people and it doesn't have to.
Trash game
Trash Opinion
Trash....
You only pay 60$, and you get all the characters. Can't say the same of Genshin.
Trash OP.
@@abdisaputra694 Check op 2. The game is meant to be understood as trash. Japan has fun with Tales this way (Gintama-like franchise about ALIENS without the 4th wall with this franchise is in Japan), but the second opening is bliss. Well... for TRUE fans I mean. See how many people write about KANONNO here already?))))
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