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  • @Hagerty
    @Hagerty  3 года назад +5

    Read more about it here! www.hagerty.com/media/videos/why-its-important-to-clean-and-chase-your-threads-diy/

  • @chronoso
    @chronoso 3 года назад +124

    Nice boroscope view on that second ID thread. Appreciate the camera work on this show as always.

    • @nasilemak868
      @nasilemak868 10 месяцев назад +1

      I believe they use the LAOWA 24mm Macro lens

  • @robbwallace7034
    @robbwallace7034 3 года назад +102

    You are a Master mechanic. We appreciate your talents and teaching us your skills. Thank you!

    • @ChunkyMonkaayyy
      @ChunkyMonkaayyy 3 года назад +3

      Davin is a great teacher and seems like cool person in general.

  • @ChunkyMonkaayyy
    @ChunkyMonkaayyy 3 года назад +40

    When I first started at a machine shop in high school, that was one of my jobs. Clean threads on everything when it came into the shop and again before it left. Hated it but man it really taught me to “see with my hands”. That and they had me measure everything in the shop. I spent a month alone measuring everything in the tool room. Got really good at that too.

  • @GalleryBones
    @GalleryBones 3 года назад +44

    We can never get enough videos with Davin, he's awesome

  • @abeclarkatp2595
    @abeclarkatp2595 3 года назад +38

    Hagerty is absolutely killing it with great content lately. Thanks to everyone involved for giving us great information in an entertaining fashion.

  • @chiil034
    @chiil034 3 года назад +123

    Came because of a loose thread on my shirt... stayed for the video.

    • @beri232
      @beri232 2 года назад +2

      I bet ya learned something too! Lmao

  • @markk3652
    @markk3652 3 года назад +5

    Make double sure to inspect the blind holes after cleaning the threads with the thread chaser or a tap. The debris that gets dragged loose can easily get packed in the bottom of the hole and compressed as the tool advances to the bottom. This also will affect torque values if it doesn't get removed since the bolt can't fully travel the intended distance. A stout piece of wire or a pick that reaches into the depth of the hole can break apart compressed gunk to be blasted out with compressed air.
    Also, a good bottoming tap generally won't change thread tolerances. The hole was drilled and tapped to be a particular size, and taps are pretty precisely toleranced.

  • @joshuagibson2520
    @joshuagibson2520 3 года назад

    Thanks for bringing this to the masses. Most folks who aren't machinists like us have no idea about a thread file. It should benefit a lot of people.
    You're right, that's not a tap. It's a thread former, aka Roll forming tap. It doesn't cut like a tap does. It pushes material to where it needs to go. When drilling and forming a fresh roll formed thread you actually use a larger size tap drill and the roll forming pushes the material toward the center and controls the minor thread diameter. Formed holes are not as nice or precise as using a tap, but theyre a great option for many situations.

  • @TheApothecaryAus
    @TheApothecaryAus 3 года назад +3

    You can file a flat or a V groove (flat or triangular file) into a known good bolt (from your spares/parts bucket) to achieve the same without buying a thread chaser kit.
    A bottoming tap can also chase a thread with minimal risk of cross threading.
    Clean all threads with solvent too - important if there was loctite (or similar) applied previously (also implies it'll be applied again)
    I would also strongly recommend a wire wheel on a bench grinder to clean threads and finishing with brake cleaner/solvent if fasteners are being re-used, a bit of faffing about but far less effort than repairing a damaged thread because you were lazy.
    Tiniest bit (just a kiss) of copper grease on non-critical bolts (use engine oil or comply with Maintenance manual directions for torqued bolts) will help with corrosion prevention as well
    Hope that helps!
    Source: ex-Aircraft Maintenance Engineer.

  • @Sackmatters
    @Sackmatters 3 года назад +35

    I have saved so many hours with thread files. One important note I was taught from a machinist was to only file and lift off never drag the file back towards you. Even when using a standard file.

    • @kw2519
      @kw2519 3 года назад +8

      Yes!!! Files cut in ONE direction. Drawing back is the fasted way to ruin a good file. Also, get yourself a file brush. Again, only brush in one direction so you don’t ruin the brush

    • @Sackmatters
      @Sackmatters 3 года назад +6

      @@kw2519 file brushes are amazing for their intended purpose. A standard wire brush cannot clean the debris nearly as good.

    • @tickandslug
      @tickandslug 3 года назад +3

      @@Sackmatters a regular wire brush with the bristles cut really short works just as well in my experience and that's what has been in most machine shops I've worked at because someone misplaced the file card and they need to clean some files so they just cut down an old brush.

    • @Sackmatters
      @Sackmatters 3 года назад

      @@tickandslug I’ve never cut one down before. I’ll have to give that a go.

    • @SqueakyNeb
      @SqueakyNeb 3 года назад +2

      I think the idea with staying in contact and NOT lifting off with this thread file is that you're always in the groove - you don't want to find your alignment again every single stroke, or bounce off the peaks of the thread and do more damage.

  • @cameronkoehn400
    @cameronkoehn400 3 года назад +12

    Need to get me a set of O.D. files. Never heard of such a thing. Learn something new every day!

    • @belyear
      @belyear 3 года назад +1

      I love those files. So useful

    • @Hoaxer51
      @Hoaxer51 3 года назад

      @@belyear, they do work well.

    • @Icutmetal
      @Icutmetal 3 года назад

      Got a triangular file? That works too.

  • @MaNu5755
    @MaNu5755 3 года назад +29

    1:50
    I'm happy to see that a man as experienced as he is still has to check which way his ratchet wrench goes 😂

    • @cmccann4
      @cmccann4 3 года назад +1

      there's hope for us all haha

    • @turogkane5826
      @turogkane5826 3 года назад +1

      a good ratchet goes allways how the leaver stands so if its on the left side it will go left and lose the bolt ^^

  • @MrBblhed
    @MrBblhed 3 года назад +3

    I added a set of thread chasing files to my toolbox years ago when I got out of the Navy. I have used them to save enough expensive parts to more than pay for them.

  • @christophercianci1366
    @christophercianci1366 Год назад

    You just gave me a new level of confidence for the job I have to do. Thanks!

  • @reallyhappenings5597
    @reallyhappenings5597 3 года назад +1

    This is a very important part of a quality restoration, but it's also great to do as part of routine service. Any time I unbolt an engine accessory or manifold etc. off my aluminum engine, I make sure to thoroughly clean out the blind holes. I start with brake clean, then a plastic bore brush. Haven't had to use chasers yet but it's the same principle -- keep them holes clean and trim!

  • @Volterrific
    @Volterrific 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks for this! I only needed one 3/8-16 thread chaser to clean up the threads for the exhaust manifolds I removed for sandblasting and high-temp painting. I found what I needed on Amazon for $8. Worked great! Glad I did not use a tap for this job. Thanks to your video, I learned that a thread chaser is the right tool for my job.

  • @MadMathMike
    @MadMathMike 3 года назад

    This is EXACTLY what I need to clean up some wheel spacers I bought that had some minor thread damage on the stud bolts. Thank you, Davin!

  • @JETZcorp
    @JETZcorp 3 года назад +1

    How did the RUclips recommendations know exactly the job I'm going to be doing tomorrow? I've given them no clues at all, except for all the head gasket videos I've watched and Google searches about head studs. But regardless, considering that I do indeed have a couple unobtanium cylinder studs on this motorcycle and the only ones purchasable look like they were just fished out of the Titanic's swimming pool, doing a bit of thread recovery is going to be quite valuable.

  • @taze27
    @taze27 7 месяцев назад

    Fantastic demonstration! I have rusty running board mounting threads underneath my truck. I'm going to use your tips. Thank you. God bless.

  • @chevymarineretired
    @chevymarineretired 3 года назад +1

    Why didn’t you cover a striped hole using a thread repair kit? Would have been a great time to get that in.

  • @eribertoacedo9505
    @eribertoacedo9505 3 года назад +1

    Thank you I have two sets of those chasers if I need to repair threads, sometimes the hardware stores are closed on holidays and Sundays may not be able to get replacement hardware so cleaning them up is ideal thanks again sir!

    • @Hoaxer51
      @Hoaxer51 3 года назад

      It saves a trip when you actually need it if you’ve already gotten a set.

    • @mr.b3168
      @mr.b3168 3 года назад

      Where do you get thread chasers? All i find are tap and die kits for creating threads

  • @PRRGG1
    @PRRGG1 3 года назад +1

    Davin, great stuff! I am gonna wanna set of those thread files. While I don't work on cars, I work on television RF transmission line. It is normal threads get "boogers" as the manufacturer sticks them all into a loose bag. Great tip! If your ever down in Toledo, be sure to stop in at Tony Packo's.

    • @Hoaxer51
      @Hoaxer51 3 года назад +1

      PRRGG1, not only are the hotdogs great, but the pickles are the best! My favorite from Tony Packo’s is their pickle and pepper relish, it’s great on hotdogs and other sandwiches! Go Hen’s!

  • @jeffjankiewicz5100
    @jeffjankiewicz5100 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for sharing that great tip Davin and teaching this old shadetree mechanic and others new tricks. Stay safe, God Bless.

  • @Chanworx
    @Chanworx 3 года назад +1

    I don't know about you but I prefer to have gnarred threads and then ugga dugga them on with the impact until the socket breaks or the head strips. I've never had one come loose so it works 100% of the time!

  • @johnmilner7603
    @johnmilner7603 3 года назад +4

    I bought a thread file with the pitch I needed from Princess Auto in Canada and it works.

  • @alex1949
    @alex1949 3 года назад

    I've saved $1 bolts. When it 9pm and the car needs to get me to work the next morning, you do what you gotta do. I do have thread chasers that are similar to a die as well as the files. Saved my butt a couple of times.

  • @random_memory_dump
    @random_memory_dump 3 года назад +1

    Nice way of repairing threads on bolts! Thanks for the handy tips

  • @thomasrenia
    @thomasrenia 3 года назад +1

    From Greece with love

  • @mountainbiker4450
    @mountainbiker4450 11 месяцев назад

    Just bought a 2005 used Highlander and when I did the first oil change, I found that the engine drain plug bolt came out a little bit rough so I bought a chase from Amazon and intend on using it in the matter you describe. I was going to use a tap until I learned about these tools. Thanks!

  • @carlodonnell146
    @carlodonnell146 Год назад

    If time or access to a replacement bolt is a problem, you just may have to try and save the bolt, so it is worth it having one of those files handy just in case. Thanks for the info.

  • @jeffplant3
    @jeffplant3 3 года назад

    What on earth would someone give this video a thumbs down!!? Great video. Great education. 1,000 thumbs up.

  • @thewholls7176
    @thewholls7176 3 года назад +2

    As a DIYer I’ve always used the tap because they are super sharp and if youve got a good ear and a good feel you can hear and feel the difference between cutting baked on grease and junk from between the threads and cutting the thread itself
    the feel and the noise it makes is different and I think the tap leaves it much cleaner.......!!!!

    • @Hoaxer51
      @Hoaxer51 3 года назад +1

      I agree, especially with a tap, I do own a couple thread files and they have come in handy at times. I own an old backhoe and I’ve had 1/2” bolts about six inches long with a nut on it and the bolt sticks thru about half an inch. The end of the bolts were buggered up pretty good so I used my thread file and repaired the threads before I took the nut off and it worked great. Saved the bolts and a bunch of trouble trying to get things apart.

  • @ukrsindicat
    @ukrsindicat 9 месяцев назад

    Great camera work and great explanation

  • @mattsoares608
    @mattsoares608 3 года назад +2

    They also make chasers for O.D bolts. Snap-on makes a kit and it has saved me me so many times. If you work on cars in or above the rust line - this is a necessary tool kit to get.

  • @danielbuck
    @danielbuck 3 года назад

    my thread chaser kit also includes thread chasing nuts, for OD threads. Those work really well for cleaning dried loctite or RTV off of bolts!

    • @kw2519
      @kw2519 3 года назад

      Spinning wire brush works really well too

  • @forevercomputing
    @forevercomputing 3 года назад

    Small holes are easy, it's when you have to work in situ or with a large part. I bought used drive axles for my car and one side was fine, both nuts fit one side, but not the other. Tried getting a specialist until I realised I may as well tackle it myself. Whilst I had the kit out, I did the nuts and although it took me a couple hours, the results spoke for themselves.
    Had to clean the threads in my flywheel as well. Was resurfaced and I think it put a burr on the edges.

  • @Onewheelordeal
    @Onewheelordeal 3 года назад

    I love "As a for instance" for some reason.
    I recently was doing my brakes and used a tap and thread file to get me back home that night after any bolt store had closed. Bolt or threads into the caliper must've had bits of metal/damage in them upon previous assembly.

  • @krisraps
    @krisraps 3 года назад

    WOOW! These Are Truly Wonderful Tips!
    Thanks So Much, And Greetings From Latvia. !

  • @johnlucic6608
    @johnlucic6608 3 года назад +1

    A little oil while chasing is good practice. Like this video.

    • @reallyhappenings5597
      @reallyhappenings5597 3 года назад

      Yes but clean with brakleen afterward, then torque with or without the appropriate anti-seize or assembly grease

  • @robertharker
    @robertharker 3 года назад +1

    I like these DYI videos. Great practical advice

  • @byronakhavi953
    @byronakhavi953 2 года назад

    When using a thread chaser, the tool needs to be lubricated. Use cutting oil or some type of lubricant. First, use brake cleaner/solvent to clean out the threads that you want to chase (blow out with air). Then, lubricate the chaser and chase as shown. Slowly work in and out .
    If you feel resistance, work back and then slowly forward. Clean/reform the threads and then remove the chaser.
    Then use brake cleaner and compressed air to perform a final cleaning of the threads, after using the chaser. Insert the fastener by hand and confirm it threads properly. Kiss the fastener a bit and tighten it down by hand.
    Then torque to spec. with a calibrated torque wrench that is rated for 20%-80% of the torque range (if you need to torque to 50 lbs.-ft.; you will need a torque wrench with a range of 10-100 lbs.-ft. (your torque target is well within the 20-80% range of this tool).
    Then clean your chaser. Precleaning, using lubricant and post cleaning makes a difference. It also takes more time, and is worth the effort.

  • @chemxfan
    @chemxfan 3 года назад +3

    I need to expand my toolbox - I could've saved a small fortune in bolts over the years if I'd known about thread chasers!

  • @viniciusareas5674
    @viniciusareas5674 3 года назад +1

    Master class! Always Great!

  • @Bari_Khan_CEng_CMarEng
    @Bari_Khan_CEng_CMarEng Год назад

    Great video and guidance, much appreciated

  • @williamwallace5201
    @williamwallace5201 3 года назад

    Really good video. Thanks for sharing!

  • @lucianmoon7755
    @lucianmoon7755 3 года назад +1

    Im really glad I was recommended this video, thank you I learned a lot from this.

  • @bbreed1
    @bbreed1 Год назад

    Great video man!! Holy cow. Amazing insight

  • @justaguy8347
    @justaguy8347 3 года назад +1

    Those worked great, I'm going to pick up a set!

  • @rdyer8764
    @rdyer8764 3 года назад

    Always great, even tho simple. Reminds me of stuff I've forgotten. Good that it's back in usable memory. Thanks.

  • @leafylotus
    @leafylotus 3 года назад

    This is awesome for people who learned how to wrench online

  • @keviny7963
    @keviny7963 3 года назад

    Very good info. Thanks for sharing!

  • @FurryWrecker911
    @FurryWrecker911 3 года назад

    The timing of this. I just ordered a chaser set for a block I'm putting back together.

  • @donwest5387
    @donwest5387 Год назад

    priceless tool. Didn't know that threadfiles had "square" profile

  • @leelemon3373
    @leelemon3373 3 года назад

    Great video. But you didn't show using some Lube on the chaser. I'm chasing my 4.3 L chevy astro spark plug hole.
    Lube on the chaser holds on to Gunk as I remove it and clean it and go back in for more. LOL Thanks

  • @johnschutt9187
    @johnschutt9187 3 года назад

    Hey, Davin, Thanks for all the work that you do and for your videos. I really appreciate them.
    I have one minor issue that causes me to cringe. You frequently say things like, "I have went through..." It should be, "I have gone through." Yes. It's "I went" or "I have gone," but not, "I have went." Your work is so good, this slight tweak will help it to be perfect! Thank you

  • @alanwhiteside410
    @alanwhiteside410 2 месяца назад

    Good video and camera work.
    😎👍👍

  • @bikewolf7455
    @bikewolf7455 3 года назад

    rebuilding my first engine soon, had this video in my recommendations. im gonna look for a set of these thread chasers now. good to know about this

  • @Limeayy
    @Limeayy 3 года назад +1

    Enjoyed it Davin!

  • @JavoCover
    @JavoCover 3 года назад

    I didn't knew those thread file existed. I'm gonna have to get a kit of those, I used to repair threads with a small piece of sand paper one by one.

    • @amorag59
      @amorag59 3 года назад

      Sand paper!!? Oh gosh those poor threads!

  • @chargerman426
    @chargerman426 3 года назад

    The set of thread chasers I bought years ago had thread chasers for bolts as well... its like a die so a bit easier to use than the file method.

  • @beri232
    @beri232 2 года назад

    I wish I’d of saw this earlier today. I chased the threads on the heads of my Harley with a tap and it came out with metal filings…. I only wanted to remove old thread-locker… I stopped after 2 holes. Luckily I only turned it with my fingers and no wrench. I’ll know if I buggered it up once my gaskets come in and I torque it all up to spec.

  • @levesquejp4964
    @levesquejp4964 3 года назад

    Would like to work with you on all these awesome motor from all era.. get hands on a piece of history everytime and feel what that was like to be living in these time

  • @obsbarlos
    @obsbarlos 3 года назад

    Awesome video as always thanks for this Davin!

  • @chardon59803
    @chardon59803 2 года назад

    Good information there for sure !

  • @jamesdepaul3410
    @jamesdepaul3410 3 года назад

    Awesome vid, great explanation.

  • @matthewstorm5188
    @matthewstorm5188 4 месяца назад

    The problem with grinding a groove on a bolt in order to improvise a thread chaser is that it can be hard to clean the burs created at the ends of the threads. These burs can easily damage aluminum if you are trying to clean an aluminum threaded hole. Running a nut can help. But this may not be an option if you are dealing with a more oddball thread size. A thread file could also work - if you have one.

  • @valuedhumanoid6574
    @valuedhumanoid6574 3 года назад +4

    I use my thread files all the time. And before I do anything, I will fill all the holes with a penetrating fluid like Kroil or just WD-40 and let it sit for a while. Blow out each hole and then the taps to chase threads.

  • @benzina5917
    @benzina5917 3 года назад

    Outstanding video. Very well done and informative.

  • @sparkplug964
    @sparkplug964 3 года назад

    Learned something today, thanks.

  • @ShogunMura
    @ShogunMura 3 года назад

    I really appreciate these educational videos, thanks guys!!

  • @johnkenney7217
    @johnkenney7217 6 месяцев назад

    Very articulate, thanks.

  • @aaaabababa
    @aaaabababa 3 года назад

    Thread Files can be absolute Lifesavers if you work on heavy Equipment with very big but very fine threads, like axle Stubs on semi trucks for instance.

  • @kw2519
    @kw2519 3 года назад +1

    If you need a ID thread chaser in a pinch, grind a couple slots down the length of the threads on a normal bolt.

  • @omaralexander7406
    @omaralexander7406 Год назад

    The video was helpful. Thank you.

  • @Bodeen-j9o
    @Bodeen-j9o 29 дней назад

    Excellent vid. Thank you dir.

  • @nepicness
    @nepicness 3 года назад +5

    I didn’t know there were thread files, I’d usually it it hard with a wire brush and a triangle file. This seems more accurate

    • @Riley_1955
      @Riley_1955 3 года назад +1

      Same here.....I always look at bolts when taken out and clean them up and I don't have any of the tools seen in the video it's a wire brush on my grinder with a small file.

    • @reallyhappenings5597
      @reallyhappenings5597 3 года назад

      If all you're doing is cleaning gunk, wire brushes are fine. It's only damaged threads that require filing. Gunk --> Rust --> Damage and each requires a slightly different approach, they are not the same.

    • @nepicness
      @nepicness 3 года назад

      @@reallyhappenings5597 Yeah I am usually cleaning gunk off. When I do need to actually touch them up I'll throw a threaded die on it or if I don't have it I'll painstakingly go at it with a triangle file. Definitely not the right pitch and depth, but it cleans it up enough to get it to engage which is enough for me.

  • @TrondOleJensen
    @TrondOleJensen 3 года назад

    Thanks for the great tips 👍🏻

  • @markreynolds3850
    @markreynolds3850 3 года назад

    Thanks for sharing this video.great idea.

  • @Cartier_specialist
    @Cartier_specialist 3 года назад +4

    All these years I always thought I was cheating by doing this to my bolts and now I found out I was doing it the right way.

  • @BourneThisWay
    @BourneThisWay 6 месяцев назад

    I had exhaust studs removed so I can replace them with new ones, but when I went to thread the new studs in, they didnt go in straight. They were going effortlessly but it was noticeably wobbly going in until it stopped half way (no force applied whatsoever). I managed to thread one in perfect, but when I removed it and tried again, it wouldn’t go in straight; same problem as before. Does it just need to be chased?

  • @rogjackson
    @rogjackson 3 года назад

    Excellent content. Can you do 2 Davin DIY videos a week please. Thanks.

  • @65Coasty
    @65Coasty 3 года назад

    Always great info mate. 👍

  • @isaacc9908
    @isaacc9908 3 года назад

    What brand chaser set would you recommend snap on matco napa what would you recommend which one is best bank for your buck and which is the best?

  • @Grainsauce
    @Grainsauce Год назад

    When thread chasing do you ever want to use any oil or lubrication or is it better to run it dry?

  • @nathanrice1796
    @nathanrice1796 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for making a good video. Some hot rodders may not know about the existence of "thread files."

  • @jaystrock613
    @jaystrock613 3 года назад

    should you use parts cleaner or solvent while doing this? should you blow hole out with air? could you use wire brush on drill?

  • @Wrenchen-with-Darren
    @Wrenchen-with-Darren 3 года назад +1

    Well done. Thanks.

  • @brightenupcc
    @brightenupcc 3 года назад

    Awesome presenter. Awesome advice

  • @DaveSimkus
    @DaveSimkus 8 месяцев назад

    Would a magnet on the end of the bolt help to pick up any loose metals?

  • @NorthernChev
    @NorthernChev 3 года назад

    For that bolt, why not just use the die that comes in the threat chaser kit? The external thread cleaner bars are more for something like that pinion you showed.

  • @TheMrmmkkpro
    @TheMrmmkkpro 4 месяца назад

    Should oil or pb blaster ever be used in this process? Working on a 1995 LT-1 corvette and the head bolt holes are real nasty, thanks. 🏁🏁👍👍

  • @63nside21
    @63nside21 3 года назад

    Amazing video! Ty sir😎👍🏼

  • @annw8909
    @annw8909 3 года назад +1

    This is cool never knew about it.

  • @africanelectron751
    @africanelectron751 3 года назад

    That was very educational... Going to have to make my own no way I will find those locally.

  • @lucasstuart-chilcote7069
    @lucasstuart-chilcote7069 3 года назад

    Really great tips!

  • @NikosKatsikanis
    @NikosKatsikanis Год назад

    should u do this on wheel nuts?

  • @Anatoli-y
    @Anatoli-y 3 года назад +1

    Very interesting info about restoring threads. Regards from russia!

  • @malkionx
    @malkionx 3 года назад

    Love these videos great and informative

  • @AndreiBanciu
    @AndreiBanciu 3 года назад +1

    Well guess what ? Bolts also heave a "big heavy hex" end that you could drive with a socket ! :)
    Thanks for the video!