The Brief Independence of Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan I THE GREAT WAR 1919

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  • Опубликовано: 10 ноя 2019
  • Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan used the power vacuum after the 1917 revolution in Russia and after the collapse of the Central Powers in 1918 to gain their independence. But the Caucasus region was of vital strategic importance to the new Russian regime, to the British and to the Turks.
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    De Waal, Thomas. The Caucasus (Oxford University Press, 2010).
    Engelstein, Laura. Russia in Flames (Oxford University Press, 2017).
    Figes, Orlando. A People’s Tragedy. The Russian Revolution (London: The Bodley Head, 2017 [1996]).
    Goyushov, Altay: Azerbaijan, in: 1914-1918-online. International Encyclopedia of the First World War, ed. by Ute Daniel, Peter Gatrell, Oliver Janz, Heather Jones, Jennifer Keene, Alan Kramer, and Bill Nasson, issued by Freie Universität Berlin, Berlin 2016-03-31.
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Комментарии • 1 тыс.

  • @TheGreatWar
    @TheGreatWar  3 года назад +17

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    • @turanbirliyi5150
      @turanbirliyi5150 3 года назад +1

      Iravan is Azerbaijan 🇦🇿

    • @turanbirliyi5150
      @turanbirliyi5150 3 года назад

      @Giorgi Jioshvili love you Iravan ❤🇦🇿 Iravan is Azerbaijan 🇦🇿

    • @turanbirliyi5150
      @turanbirliyi5150 3 года назад

      @Giorgi Jioshvili Iravan 🇦🇿👍

  • @Bobo011
    @Bobo011 4 года назад +681

    Hello From Georgia, really glad someone is covering more of our history, so people can know other than it's the birthplace of Stalin.

    • @enesamederel
      @enesamederel 4 года назад +20

      Are you proud of him? As a Georgian? Because of he was from Georgia?

    • @Bobo011
      @Bobo011 4 года назад +134

      @@enesamederel He was Georgian only by blood, as the video pointed out he didn't really care for his country(or for any for that matter), Stalin was a monster who was responsible for untold amounts of death, so no, i'm not least bit of proud of him.

    • @kakhakheviashvili6365
      @kakhakheviashvili6365 4 года назад +68

      @@enesamederel we had in history countless of great people, heroes, we can be proud of, and Stalin didn't worth even a piece of dirt from their boots.

    • @enesamederel
      @enesamederel 4 года назад +13

      My bad. I kinda felt like you proud of him. I think you should write down there "more than" instead of "other than". That's why I understood like this.

    • @Bobo011
      @Bobo011 4 года назад

      @@enesamederel Sorry, should've been more attentive.

  • @ethancharles9739
    @ethancharles9739 4 года назад +481

    Nice to see someone covering this often-forgotten topic.

  • @TheGreatWar
    @TheGreatWar  4 года назад +309

    101 years ago the armistice on the Western Front was signed. And we all learned in school how the war was over and the "interwar period" started. As some of you have realized from our 16 episodes released this year, 1919 was anything but a quiet and peaceful year. There was much continued conflict and war around the world, fought with the same equipment, uniforms and soldiers that fought in 1918. This period doesn't get covered as much as the 1914-1918 period but we hope you enjoy the history nonetheless. The last two episodes were a bit shorter, initially we thought about combining them into one but that didn't feel right and makes it easier to navigate for you. The next two episodes in November will be longer and more detailed again: The Treaty of Neuilly (next week) and the Hungarian-Romanian War in 2-3 weeks. Thanks Flo

    • @konstantinostravlos210
      @konstantinostravlos210 4 года назад +5

      Good Work

    • @konstantinostravlos210
      @konstantinostravlos210 4 года назад +10

      some extra english sources
      For Armenia 1918-1922 nothing beats Richard G. Hovannisian, "The Republic of Armenia" volumes I,II,III,IV. Because he relied heavily on Kazim Karabekir's book "Our War of Indepdenence" for the Turkish pov, he is also one of the few English sources for elements of Karebekir's polemic.
      For Georgia 1918-1921, I have heard very good things about Eric Lee "The Experiment: Georgia's Forgotten Revolution, 1918-21"

    • @konstantinostravlos210
      @konstantinostravlos210 4 года назад +5

      some correction. They never gave de jure recognition to the three republics. Your source is wrong on that. Hovannisian contains the whole sordid affair. They were given de-facto standing, but never officially recognized. This is primarily due to French opposition. The reason was that Denikin was not willing to recognize either Azerbaijan or Georgia (he was more willing to tolerate a independent Armenia state) . So as long as the Entente was committed to his support, it could not get too close to the Caucasian republics. Also Denikin was for most of the period that main source of military support for Armenia (together with a one-off British and Greek arms and equipment shipment in 1919-the Greek included your familiar Canadian Ross rifles). Armenia connections to Denikin made their relations with Georgia terrible.

    • @ardagurbuz6924
      @ardagurbuz6924 4 года назад

      when is the Greco-Turkish war video coming up?

    • @konstantinostravlos210
      @konstantinostravlos210 4 года назад +4

      @@shanel5115 different companies . Different channels. Also different temporal coverage. Between two wars goes the whole interwar period. This channel covers the immediate after-effects up to 1924.There is space on the net for multiple channels and takes on the same events.

  • @hentehoo27
    @hentehoo27 4 года назад +419

    Lenin: Remember, Caucasus, when I promised to grant you independence?
    the Caucasus countries: That's right, Lenin. You did.
    Lenin: I lied.

  • @nickelson66
    @nickelson66 4 года назад +224

    Same old tragedy.. People of southern Caucasus were always squeezed between big empires: Turkey, Persia, Russia. Horrible neighborhood.

    • @emilturangi7145
      @emilturangi7145 4 года назад +7

      Getto I would rather say...

    • @eeviaatto
      @eeviaatto 4 года назад +7

      so sad

    • @deleteduser1877
      @deleteduser1877 4 года назад +35

      Better then North caucasus They did not even survived

    • @neurofiedyamato8763
      @neurofiedyamato8763 4 года назад +20

      If only the countries in the Caucasus learn to cooperate and form a proper union. That's the only way to survive, but they continue to dispute over petty things.

    • @Sina.g.z
      @Sina.g.z 4 года назад +5

      @@neurofiedyamato8763 if it treated properly, it can be a privilege to be located in such a important hub.

  • @sweetrevange
    @sweetrevange 4 года назад +125

    Thank you from Georgia for such a great video!

    • @VLADB07
      @VLADB07 3 года назад

      When's Georgia becoming Muslim?

    • @VLADB07
      @VLADB07 3 года назад +1

      @@joedenathan4775
      Which part didn't your majesty understand?

    • @VLADB07
      @VLADB07 3 года назад

      @@joedenathan4775
      What's my "idiocracy" my lord?

    • @joedenathan4775
      @joedenathan4775 3 года назад +1

      @@VLADB07 when was Georgia muslim again?

    • @VLADB07
      @VLADB07 3 года назад

      @Giorgi Jioshvili
      Broken English jioshvili
      It's not a dumb question keep swallowing that turkish and azeri meat

  • @avetisyanhovhannes4705
    @avetisyanhovhannes4705 4 года назад +16

    Thanks for video from Armenia

  • @JobberBud
    @JobberBud 4 года назад +113

    I've long had a fascination with Armenia, and you guys have provided a wealth of information and insight! Keep up the great work!

  • @Corium1
    @Corium1 4 года назад +50

    I’m going to start asking people “why are you swaggering around like a Georgian Calvary Officer in 1919?” More often now

  • @brdzolisunariani
    @brdzolisunariani 4 года назад +171

    peace & freedom
    to
    Georgia /Armenia/Azerbaijan ! (Transcaucasia)

    • @josephalejandro8293
      @josephalejandro8293 3 года назад +5

      That's the pass, today their three country's and should be respected as such!

    • @dusia08
      @dusia08 3 года назад +5

      Doesn't sound possible tho

    • @emin2119
      @emin2119 3 года назад +12

      Azerbaijan and Georgia. 🇦🇿❤️🇬🇪 possible but Armenia and Azerbaijan neverrr.

    • @Ulhus
      @Ulhus 3 года назад +9

      @@dusia08 Nothing is impossible.

    • @TheSiyavus
      @TheSiyavus 3 года назад

      @Giorgi Jioshvili United nations security council resolution no 822,853,874,884

  • @germanyballwork5301
    @germanyballwork5301 4 года назад +124

    short and sweet... 14 minutes long, never stop guys

  • @kilianstakemeier4288
    @kilianstakemeier4288 4 года назад +3

    Thank you so much for your work, such a high quality coverage of the events! Support incoming

  • @simonbroberg969
    @simonbroberg969 2 года назад +8

    Got to say that these videos fill a lot of holes when it comes to my learning history. I think they way it has been put together well without much bias which I see in many a history programme. Well done!

  • @malaysiadentist4637
    @malaysiadentist4637 4 года назад +13

    This was a great production as always!

  • @goldeneagle3088
    @goldeneagle3088 4 года назад +134

    Jesse your starting to grow on me

  • @gudrathasanli3329
    @gudrathasanli3329 4 года назад +29

    Oh, nothing changed much. We all still lay claims on each others' lands. Thanks for covering our history. Greetings and much love from Azerbaijan!

    • @zabilova1234
      @zabilova1234 3 года назад

      Salam video chox uzun idi qisaca deye bilersiniz bu yeni bizim xeyrimize dedi ya yox? Yeniki ermenilerim kochurulduyunu vurguladi?

    • @gudrathasanli3329
      @gudrathasanli3329 3 года назад

      @@zabilova1234 Mövzu burada tamam başqadır e :) Həm 14 dəqiqədir, uzun deyil. Qərb tarixçilərinin bizim regionun 1-ci dünya müharibəsindəki şərhinə qulaq asmış olarsınız. Yadımdadır, prof. Altay Göyüşov da bu videonu izləməyi məsləhət görmüşdü.

    • @zabilova1234
      @zabilova1234 3 года назад +1

      @@gudrathasanli3329 Eslinde duz deyirsiniz uzun deyil) Sadece erindim deyim sjjs Anladim chox sagolun

    • @zabilova1234
      @zabilova1234 3 года назад +1

      @@gudrathasanli3329 Orda sadece deported sozunu eshitdim ona gore dedimki nese ermenilerin kochurulme, deportasiyasindan danishir

    • @gudrathasanli3329
      @gudrathasanli3329 3 года назад +1

      @@zabilova1234 İngilis zabitlərdən sitat gətirir, deyir soyqırımdan sonra Anadolunun şərqindən Ermənistana qaçan və ya deportasiya olan ermənilər 1919-da ruslarla bir yerdə qayıdıb yerli müsəlman əhaliyə oxşar vəhşilikdə divan tutdu. Video isə ümumiyyətlə 3 müstəqil ölkənin problemlərin içində olmasından, bir-birləri ilə əməkdaşlıq etməməsindən və idarəçiliklərinin uğursuz olmasından bəhs edir.

  • @tilawn7867
    @tilawn7867 4 года назад +71

    Samegrelo/Megrelia is one of the 9 regions of Georgia, it is part of an administrative division of the country and no way megrelians are ethnic minorities, they are georgians who live in the region of Samegrelo.

    • @dato3767
      @dato3767 3 года назад +15

      As mingrelian i agree im Georgian ! I wad and i will alwaya be Georgian!

    • @Strongholdex
      @Strongholdex 3 года назад +6

      @@dato3767 გენაცვალე გაიხარე 🥰.
      ერთი სისხლი, ერთი ერი ერთი ისტორია.

    • @ANICETVS
      @ANICETVS 2 года назад +2

      Megrelians are a separate ethnic group Stalin denied their right of existence

    • @EbraeliVachari
      @EbraeliVachari 2 года назад +2

      A T*rk explaining who is who in Georgia lmao. Go figure out who your ancestors are first

    • @houby1632
      @houby1632 2 года назад

      @@ANICETVS why would you say that first united georgian civilization colchis included mingrelia so no mingrelia is georgia its just a region such would be if you were to call a person from texas texan nothing else and stalin didnt deny their right of existance he was the one who made adjara into a autonomous republic and he kept pushing the ideas that abkazia was separate from georgia so in case of a ussr collapse they would have a stronghold there so just learn history till you comment history

  • @zuradugladze3626
    @zuradugladze3626 3 года назад +18

    Which minority group in Megrelia revolted against Georgia? Never heard of that one.????

  • @leksolee6135
    @leksolee6135 4 года назад +129

    Soviet Russian signed a Moscow treaty with Georgia in 1920 recognizing its independence and recognizing that Abkhazia and so called South Osetia are under Georgian jurisdiction. But in 1921 Russia violated that treaty and occupied Georgia.

    • @lukajorjoliani7167
      @lukajorjoliani7167 4 года назад +65

      Russia probably holds world record for violating the most treaties

    • @iraklisulukhia5409
      @iraklisulukhia5409 4 года назад +34

      South Ossetia never existed before 1921

    • @guerguistoyanov137
      @guerguistoyanov137 4 года назад +16

      Are you surprised!?
      Russians are well known gentlemen....😉🤫😖

    • @sandromain
      @sandromain 4 года назад +9

      That's imperialism for you man

    • @apo5895
      @apo5895 4 года назад +1

      Lekso Lee but still Georgia was its own republic in the USSR and not part of Russia

  • @messisaf8645
    @messisaf8645 3 года назад +15

    100 years Britain is always the same " no friends only interests'

  • @ChiefUmejesi
    @ChiefUmejesi 4 года назад +38

    7:20 You have a mistake here. Armenia fell to Soviet control in Nov-Dec 1920, not 1919.

  • @mengoingabroad8576
    @mengoingabroad8576 4 года назад +9

    Thanks for your explication of this confusing time. My Grandfather lived through this period, and participated in the events. Fighting Turks, escaping from Bolsheviks, etc. I had heard oral history before. It matches up with your narrative. Thanks again!

  • @arostwocents
    @arostwocents 4 года назад +2

    This is the first video I've watched on your channel. Fantastic.

  • @eifelitorn
    @eifelitorn 4 года назад

    Nice, been waiting for this one! Cheers

  • @FirstnameLastname-py3bc
    @FirstnameLastname-py3bc 4 года назад +65

    Lack of info on Georgia is disturbing.
    Example: Not only independence of Azerbaijan was declared in Tbilisi, but also of Armenia
    Both on 28th of May, 2 days after Georgian.
    Also map is skewed, that map is from 1937 of Soviet Republics (borders of independent republics was a bit different - more in line of 16-19th century borders)

    • @gagvardanyan6580
      @gagvardanyan6580 4 года назад +1

      No. Armenia was declared independent not in Tbilisi but Batum.

    • @FirstnameLastname-py3bc
      @FirstnameLastname-py3bc 4 года назад +4

      @@gagvardanyan6580 No. Both were done on the same event on the same session

    • @VLADB07
      @VLADB07 3 года назад +1

      Armenia is just more popular and interesting 🤷🏻‍♂️
      You keep changing sides too often to be talked about, you lost your culture and values long time ago, not unique or interesting anymore

    • @FirstnameLastname-py3bc
      @FirstnameLastname-py3bc 3 года назад +8

      @@VLADB07 Well, a man coming culture thief background says that

    • @VLADB07
      @VLADB07 3 года назад +2

      @@FirstnameLastname-py3bc
      I see the truth hurts the little Georgian
      Keep switching sides and your religion too fake "yes" people

  • @Forgotten_Melody
    @Forgotten_Melody 4 года назад +60

    Finally someone speaking about countries being squished by two hungry neighbors, that are willing to put hands on them always.
    Greetings from Georgia, keep up, you guys are awesome!

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory 4 года назад +2

    Thanks for mentioning this. Not many people know about it

  • @rrozoff1
    @rrozoff1 3 года назад +1

    This is superb. And more topical than I would have liked to see it.

  • @woketoad2426
    @woketoad2426 4 года назад +21

    Not to brown nose it too hard, but Jesse you are a great host and writer! Wouldn't have thought this channel could sustain itself after the end of the war, but I was wrong and I'm glad I was

    • @jessealexander2695
      @jessealexander2695 4 года назад +3

      Thanks a lot for the encouragement, it's a great momtivator to read comments like this one!

  • @aditboy
    @aditboy 4 года назад +6

    If it matters for future decision making of the channel: I personally don't mind if there isn't enough footage/photographs to make an episode. Filling in the gaps with maps, quotes or heck, just Jesse talking for long periods of time are all totally fine by me. Happy to stare at a black screen to hear about all this!

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory 4 года назад

    I'm glad to see you upload more

  • @martinknutsen6731
    @martinknutsen6731 2 года назад

    Thank you. This is important to remember.

  • @mikayelavagyan3353
    @mikayelavagyan3353 4 года назад +12

    The entire video series is marvelous! Thank you for the tremendous effort and creativity!

  • @Game_Hero
    @Game_Hero 4 года назад +3

    Awesome episode, sad that you couldn't find many pictures despite your efforts. Also, will you cover Mongolia and the Bogd Khanate? Or the warlords era in China (after all China had an important role during and the post-WW1 era)?

  • @mr.excitement689
    @mr.excitement689 4 года назад +3

    Great video fellas

  • @eurosensazion
    @eurosensazion 4 года назад +7

    Finally someone covering this area. Nice too see and informative.

  • @brianoneil9662
    @brianoneil9662 4 года назад +35

    In the U.S. in particular schoolbook history tends to ignore everything happening in Europe/Asia after WW1 ended. Then again it barely acknowledges the Spanish Flu. Because Prohibition! Oooh. The Volstad Act! Thrilling and world shaking!
    Thanks guys for digging deep in EVERY direction. It makes me really appreciate your channel.

    • @teasharadze4658
      @teasharadze4658 4 года назад

      Brian O'Neil here in Georgia 🇬🇪it's much different, we learn world history much more than our's

    • @katydid5088
      @katydid5088 Год назад

      To be fair, Prohibition pretty much inundated the United States in a wave of corruption that hasn't really ended till VERY recently. A part of why many people hate Unions here is that the mafia had everyone on the take. If you started threatening them they could shut down the whole country by shutting down the docks and the Teamsters union (both rail and trucking). They have pulled strikes in the past and it usually worked. On the outside people saw some sort of agreement get reached but internally there's a bunch of lawyers and mob guys fighting tooth and nail against the local police and another lawyer to get their stuff sorted. If you look at declassified documents from the F.B.I it's pretty much the reason they were invented. They are a national investigative agency that has more power than the local police. Expensive, yes but it also helped keep legit cops and business owners from being mowed down in a dumping ground somewhere. A single cop can't be held responsible for reforming a whole department (and you wouldn't want them to stay in power afterwards) it would be a mess.

  • @remahealy2584
    @remahealy2584 3 года назад +15

    The map of Azerbaijan as per boundaries agreed at Paris conference was different.

    • @futurecanadian8257
      @futurecanadian8257 2 года назад +1

      Were the Azeris at Paris conference for the time? Answer: no

    • @isgendervelizade2397
      @isgendervelizade2397 Год назад +2

      Delegation of Azerbaijan in Paris Conference:
      1.Alimerdan bey Topchubashov
      2.Mahammad Hasan Hajinski
      3.Mahammad Maharramov
      4.Ceyhun bey Hajibeyli
      5.Ahmed bey Aghaoghlu
      6.Abbas bey Atamalibeyov
      7.Mirmehdiyev
      8.Ali bey Huseyinzade

  • @azerski1
    @azerski1 3 года назад +2

    100 years later and not much different. thanks for great content!

  • @arthur5094
    @arthur5094 3 года назад +2

    So this is how it started cheers for the explanation

  • @ponasenkoepifantsev377
    @ponasenkoepifantsev377 4 года назад +76

    Thank you for informing people about Azerbaijan at that time. We appreciate it very much. Love from Baku!

    • @VLADB07
      @VLADB07 3 года назад +11

      You must be sad finding real information about your non existent country 🤣

    • @LukeTEvans
      @LukeTEvans 3 года назад +10

      @@VLADB07 azerbaijan is media atropatene... an ancient soviet vassal, media atropatene, azerbaijan, an ancient persian satrapy of 2500 years ago

    • @LukeTEvans
      @LukeTEvans 3 года назад +3

      azerbaijan is the oldest soviet autonomous region that still exists to this day

    • @VLADB07
      @VLADB07 3 года назад +9

      @@LukeTEvans
      🤣 jokes on you
      Media Atropatane has nothing to do with Turkic speaking nations of modern era, they were an Iranian group
      False information spreading donkey learn history first garbage trash

    • @harry7911
      @harry7911 3 года назад +7

      Arko i dare you to back up the nonsense statement that you just made!

  • @giorgipachuashvili9275
    @giorgipachuashvili9275 4 года назад +46

    I loved the fact that you covered this less known but interesting topic. Although, there were minor errors. For example, Georgia had a much bigger territory in 1921(the map shown is the current one). But overall it's nice and informative. Thank you.

  • @DennisBell-tz2sb
    @DennisBell-tz2sb 4 года назад +1

    Great show!

  • @rjlp128
    @rjlp128 4 года назад +2

    I love that desk your behind. Looks like a big piece of suitcase luggage. Is that custom made or where did you acquire it?
    Love your series!

  • @elemperadordemexico
    @elemperadordemexico 4 года назад +27

    I love this channel, please cover the aftermath of the Mexican Revolution please it's just as chaotic as Eastern Europe and the Caucasus.

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  4 года назад +15

      that sounds intriguing. any source recommendedations?

    • @elemperadordemexico
      @elemperadordemexico 4 года назад

      @@TheGreatWar Friedrich Katz: El Porfiriato y la Revolución en la historia de México; The Porfiriato and the Revolution in the history of Mexico. That is where I got most of my information. Thank you

    • @emilturangi7145
      @emilturangi7145 4 года назад +3

      @@elemperadordemexico Stand in line! We wait for this special for years!

    • @elemperadordemexico
      @elemperadordemexico 4 года назад

      @@emilturangi7145 okay, what have been waiting for?

    • @emilturangi7145
      @emilturangi7145 4 года назад +1

      @@elemperadordemexico this specicial for Caucasusus states

  • @teasharadze4658
    @teasharadze4658 4 года назад +12

    dang , thanks for making this video dude ❤️ much love from georgia 🇬🇪❤️

  • @Ystadcop
    @Ystadcop 4 года назад +1

    I had no idea whatsoever about this conflict.
    Thank-you.

  • @sandromain
    @sandromain 4 года назад +1

    Thanks from Georgia! Great analysis.

  • @rambam23
    @rambam23 4 года назад +20

    The Republic of Armenia by Richard Hovannissian is a great source on this era in the Caucasus.

    • @emilturangi7145
      @emilturangi7145 4 года назад +6

      I don't think that reading a book from only one side of barikade is right. Do you have other sources? Cuz most of books that made by Caucasion emegrants shows only one side, same trouble to our "Ali and Nino".

    • @rambam23
      @rambam23 4 года назад +2

      @@emilturangi7145 I agree, and I have read books from other perspectives, including "Ali and Nino" which I really liked.

    • @emilturangi7145
      @emilturangi7145 4 года назад +2

      @@rambam23 And there was a realy bul*** film that we made, I still feel shame for it...😔😔😔

  • @roupenohanian5652
    @roupenohanian5652 3 года назад +15

    We have all sinned no one is pure or innocent thats a fact I wish we could start fresh with the Turcs and Azerbajian just like we did with Iran . Lets do trade not war . Roupen Ohanian.

    • @ulfathabibova5845
      @ulfathabibova5845 3 года назад +9

      That is right. You didn't have to believe in Russia and invade Karabagh. How beautiful the life would be then.

    • @gevorgvanarmenie9788
      @gevorgvanarmenie9788 2 года назад

      @@ulfathabibova5845 Azerbaijan invaded Artsakh, not the other way around. Artsakh was an autonomous region in Azerbaijani Soviet Republic which declared its independence. Azeri troops attacked and started killing peaceful protesters as answer Armenia helped Artsakh in the war for independence.

    • @kalepox1035
      @kalepox1035 2 года назад

      @@gevorgvanarmenie9788 you should respect international borders

  • @gregrefon
    @gregrefon 4 года назад +1

    You really do your research well.

  • @remybien3277
    @remybien3277 4 года назад +1

    Great info

  • @mozambiquehere5903
    @mozambiquehere5903 4 года назад +4

    Well Happy 101st of the Armistice comrades, and thanks to TGW for the vid.

  • @user-kl5tt9tu7b
    @user-kl5tt9tu7b 3 года назад +3

    8 января 1977 года в Москве прогремело три взрыва - два на ведущей к Кремлю улице 25 Октября (нынешняя Никольская) и один в метро, на перегоне между станциями "Измайловская" и "Первомайская". Это была самая крупная террористическая вылазка за последние 50 лет. Организаторов удалось задержать только спустя 10 месяцев во время подготовки очередного теракта на Курском вокзале. Это были жители Армении Затикян, Степанян и Багдасарян, члены армянской националистической группировки.

  • @begjon13
    @begjon13 4 года назад +2

    Lands of my forefathers. Thank you for this one.

  • @arutyunakopyan8864
    @arutyunakopyan8864 4 года назад

    Terrific video

  • @hatman3445
    @hatman3445 4 года назад +13

    The borders with Turkey are incorrect. The borders were different during this brief independence compared to the modern border. They didn't change until 1921 of the Treaty of Kars. Both for Georgia and Armenia.

    • @ArthaxtaDaVince777
      @ArthaxtaDaVince777 4 года назад +9

      Yes, even until today Turkey violates several treaties, it's eastern border occupies land that belongs to Armenia. Lake Van, Mt. Ararat, and Erzurum was going to be given to Armenia during the paris peace conference.

    • @tujueinternational1521
      @tujueinternational1521 3 года назад +4

      @@ArthaxtaDaVince777just like the rest our your territory being given to you guys by others. When will you greedy people stop claiming territory and start building peaceful relations with your neighbours, instead of constant propaganda and conflicts?

    • @ArthaxtaDaVince777
      @ArthaxtaDaVince777 3 года назад +8

      @@tujueinternational1521 Nobody gave us territory buddy, we fought both Bolsheviks and Young Turks to claim our territory, then declared independence from the USSR and kept the land. None of it is your land.

    • @gevorgvanarmenie9788
      @gevorgvanarmenie9788 2 года назад +1

      @Kadir Garip in which statement of the Paris peace conference does it say that those lands were left to Azerbaijan???

    • @justwatch7091
      @justwatch7091 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@ArthaxtaDaVince777 Ottoman government accepted those terms, not Republic of Turkey. A new government was formed that rebelled against Ottomans, refused the Treaty of Sevres and fought against Allied powers to enforce a new treaty.
      Turkey can't violate such treaty because she did not accept such treaty. Collapsed Ottoman Empire did.

  • @matthewculley5959
    @matthewculley5959 4 года назад +4

    Please do a video about Belarus and what happened to them during/after WW1. Thank you for all the great content!

  • @titicoqui
    @titicoqui 3 года назад +1

    so so well done bravo you take no sides

  • @MrJlin1982
    @MrJlin1982 3 года назад

    great video

  • @blacktemplar2377
    @blacktemplar2377 4 года назад +13

    Let me just leave this here and then proceed to watch the rest of the video.

  • @Ozymandias1
    @Ozymandias1 3 года назад +8

    Anarchy and chauvinism have returned to the Caucasus with a vengeance in October 2020. And it can all be traced back to this episode in history.

  • @johnyarbrough502
    @johnyarbrough502 4 года назад +2

    The episode is short, but very little about the histories of the region is sweet.

  • @davidrosner6267
    @davidrosner6267 4 года назад +44

    What was the extent of military cooperation between Kemalist Turkey and the Bolsheviks in the post-Great War period between 1918 and the early 1920s?

    • @hakobbasilfan4644
      @hakobbasilfan4644 4 года назад +21

      The city of Kars was given to Kemalist Turkey when the Soviets were drawing the borders in the Caucasus in return for Batumi. Nakhijevan and Karabakh were also settled in favor of Azerbaijan when the Caucasian SSRs were born.

    • @yenimlt44
      @yenimlt44 4 года назад +25

      @@hakobbasilfan4644 Well saying Kemalist Turkey is rather wrong. Since there are just a Representative Committee which assumes to be part of the Ottoman Empire and serve as Ottoman Assembly in dire situation. Yet they still try to form Imperial Assembly back in Istanbul. After the closing of the Assembly by the Entente powers in Istanbul(mainly by Britain) after they formed (also in 1920), they form the Grand National Assembly in 23 April 1920. Mustafa Kemal (Atatürk) wasn't in control of everything even though he is the leading figure of the Representative Committee. He has the total power after The formation of Grand National Assembly and being elected as it's president.

    • @davidrosner6267
      @davidrosner6267 4 года назад +3

      @@hakobbasilfan4644 Thank you for the detailed breakdown of border changes. Did the Soviets provide weapons to Ataturk's forces fighting in Anatolia?

    • @leksolee6135
      @leksolee6135 4 года назад +5

      Because Bolsheviks were desperate for any international recognition so their foreign policy was - u recognize us - we help you. Also Bolsheviks hated everything Russian so they were pleased to help the traditional Russian enemy to break from the Russian Imperial past.

    • @davidrosner6267
      @davidrosner6267 4 года назад +2

      @@leksolee6135 interesting. It seems like the Soviet Union reached an "understanding" with modern Turkey even if the two nations weren't friends.

  • @FreshPrincce
    @FreshPrincce 4 года назад +45

    Which minority group in Megrelia revolted against Georgia? Never heard of that one.

    • @user-gl8kg8bc2u
      @user-gl8kg8bc2u 4 года назад +25

      It was quite common for Bolsheviks to go to local Georgian villages and recruit farmers to become Bolsheviks.
      After that the farmers revolted in several regions, to be later crushed by the Georgian army. So i think that's what he meant with minority group revolting.

    • @zuradugladze3626
      @zuradugladze3626 3 года назад +11

      სომხებმა რომ ომი დაგვიწყო, ის ,,გამორჩა,, ))
      ესენიც კაი მიწუწულები არიან))

    • @heresy7266
      @heresy7266 3 года назад

      @@zuradugladze3626 ar gamorcha nu geshinia mazniashvilo ar dagvaviwydeba rogor gaagde somxebi loridan, rusebi sochidan, turqebi tao klarjetisgan da batumisgan

    • @giorgi2554
      @giorgi2554 3 года назад +3

      ეხლა აზერბაიჯანს რა შეიარაღებაც აქვს ჩვენ რომ გვქონოდა 2008 წელს მთელს ტერიტორიებს გავანთავისუფლებდით ოკუპანტებისგან

    • @heresy7266
      @heresy7266 3 года назад

      @@giorgi2554 zustad! winaze videos vukurebdi 2008is omze qartvelebi amerikel jariskacebs gavdnen ise ecvat, xolo azerbaijanelebs.. XD vietnamis omshi goniat mgoni tavi 70ianebis sheiarageba aqvt

  • @ibazhunaishvili
    @ibazhunaishvili 4 года назад +17

    2:55 @the great war could you please specify who revolted in the region of Megrelia? Or maybe you could provide the source.

    • @gigagigaa9696
      @gigagigaa9696 4 года назад +4

      yes source please, we georgians or most of us have never heard about that event

    • @lukajorjoliani7167
      @lukajorjoliani7167 4 года назад +5

      And since when Megrelians became ethnic minority in Georgia?

    • @daxx33
      @daxx33 4 года назад +2

      Here georgians are shown badly. Its not truth

  • @CptMoroni35
    @CptMoroni35 4 года назад +4

    I’m really curious how far into the “Inter-War Years” this channel will go? To 1920? 1930?

  • @antogaming3728
    @antogaming3728 4 года назад +17

    Great video from Armenia 🇦🇲🇦🇲❤️💙🧡

    • @zhongli6724
      @zhongli6724 3 года назад +2

      I'am from Azerbaijan 🇦🇿 :D

  • @arevikheboyan
    @arevikheboyan 4 года назад +6

    Really appreciate unbiased review and presentation. Thanks for quality material.

  • @HistoryHustle
    @HistoryHustle 4 года назад +67

    If only Thomas Shelby didn't screw over the Russian aristocrats it might have been a different story...

    • @eeviaatto
      @eeviaatto 4 года назад +2

      bankers & trotsky. poor foresight on the germans w/ lenin. kerensky’s ineptitude and lack of pragmatism. nestor makhno’s foolish alliance. bankers and the canceled intervention of the allies.

    • @mikhailv67tv
      @mikhailv67tv 3 года назад

      Ah you think it was the Shelbys?

  • @bigjulie3714
    @bigjulie3714 4 года назад

    Excellent research and presentation. May I suggest you drop the music when you talk: it is competitive and distracting. ....... plus "no music" will make your production easier.

  • @belaltaricksatti8661
    @belaltaricksatti8661 3 года назад

    Nice Video.

  • @kearnsy5379
    @kearnsy5379 4 года назад +10

    Will you guys be covering the Irish War Of Independence to any extent? Love the show. There is so much that I have never heard about every time I watch a new episode

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  4 года назад +5

      yes, we will. especially when it gets really going next year

    • @kearnsy5379
      @kearnsy5379 4 года назад +2

      @@TheGreatWar Thank you very muchj for the answer. Looking forward to it

  • @hannahskipper2764
    @hannahskipper2764 4 года назад +3

    You're been rivaling Indy with your closing lines! 😁

  • @FOtus-yw1rr
    @FOtus-yw1rr 4 года назад +2

    Great presentation. Could you fast forward to 21st century and give us your take on chaos going on?

  • @intigammamedov7392
    @intigammamedov7392 3 года назад

    Dear Jesse, could you please advise sourse of the information that you provide in this video, especially informations about borders and map?

  • @guilhermesstrueb881
    @guilhermesstrueb881 4 года назад +4

    Great episode. A toast to the Caucasus people and Jesse!!

  • @federicogiorgetti3118
    @federicogiorgetti3118 3 года назад +3

    Extremely well explained , Kudos!!!

  • @Dawktor
    @Dawktor 4 года назад +1

    Finnaly someone is talking about these countries

  • @david63902
    @david63902 4 года назад

    thanks. man so much about true story.

  • @Giorgi.Koberidze
    @Giorgi.Koberidze 4 года назад +14

    Hello. Thank you for this video. I am a subscriber to this channel a very long time and happy to see the video about Georgia. I am a political historian from Georgia. I would like to point out several issues which I found within the video. I hope authors of this video do not get me wrong.
    - In the video, you mentioned that there was a minority revolt in Mingrelia. This is nonsense. There was and is no such minority in Georgia. Every singe Mingrelian is Georgian and it is a great offence to Mingrelians to call them minority or non-Georgian.
    - Georgian map has a problem. Georgia also controlled territories north-eastern parts of Turkey. Beyond that, there was a neutral zone between Georgia and Armenia which had great importance between the relations of two countries.
    - German Army. This was a big one. Summer 1918 German forces entered into Georgia and stationed into Tbilisi (Tiflis). They stayed in Tbilisi for several months. Even before this expedition German influence on the Georgian army was tangible. There were several thousand Georgians lived in Germany and with the help of them, pro-German propaganda was great in the south caucasian frontline. Moreover, the German minority lived in the southern parts of Georgia and parts of Tbilisi (Tiflis), which had an impact on Georgian politics.
    - And last but not least is Italy. After the WW1 Italy was the one who got Georgia as a mandate, but the Italian army did not reach Georgia, because of internal strife and Soviet pressure, even though Georgian government was informed about that.

    • @mikeromadin8744
      @mikeromadin8744 4 года назад

      What about Georgian-Ossetian conflict at that time?

    • @emilturangi7145
      @emilturangi7145 4 года назад

      @@mikeromadin8744 Ну они еще при Закавказском камисариате вышли из состава и "совет народов закавказья" решил грузины должны ввести в эти земли войска для подавления метяжей.

    • @extrahistory8956
      @extrahistory8956 3 года назад

      This, comment section, is how you make constructive criticism.

  • @omiadzeg
    @omiadzeg 4 года назад +10

    საქართველო უპირველესყოვილსა!

  • @DD-wj5mz
    @DD-wj5mz 4 года назад +42

    As a Persian Azeri, I’m curious to how Iran/Persia reacted to the Republic of Azerbaijan’s independence, a province that had historically been part of Iran, not to mention more Azeris live in Iran and the ruling Qajar dynasty were Azeri too. Great episode as always 👍🏼

    • @AdstarAPAD
      @AdstarAPAD 4 года назад +10

      Well Iran was an Monarchist society.. So having a parliamentary democracy on it's borders populated with similar people would have been seen as a dangerous example for the Iranian common people by the elites in Iran.. I am sure the Iranian leadership would have preferred Azerbaijan to be under the rule of Moscow, under a communist dictatorship, then being a functioning democratic parliamentary democracy..

    • @smileowsky
      @smileowsky 4 года назад +22

      Iran historically part of Azerbaijan.

    • @DD-wj5mz
      @DD-wj5mz 4 года назад +20

      Xəyal Gülüşov, Brother that is like saying the Soviet Union was part of Azerbaijan when it was the opposite. I’m proud to be an Azeri, but let’s not twist history for no reason.

    • @smileowsky
      @smileowsky 4 года назад +2

      Hmm yeah sure 😅🤣

    • @jamenjamel8257
      @jamenjamel8257 4 года назад +24

      @@DD-wj5mz AZERBAİJAN IS NOT IRAN.
      Selcuk Empire , Atabek Azerbaijan, Ak Koyunlu, Kara Koyunlu, dövlət-i Kızılbaş, Kajar, Afshar. We are turk.

  • @sandrika22
    @sandrika22 4 года назад +8

    Greetings. I am Georgian and thank you for covering South Caucasus situation after WWI. I have learned about first republic in school and university and have read book of Firuz Kazemzadeh "The Struggle For Transcaucasia, 1917-1921" You said that Georgian central government had a fight with Ossetians and Abkhazians which is true but you also mentioned fight against Mingrelians, I have not read or heard anything about that, can you please give me reference to that information? Thank you in advance. Have a nice day.

  • @drobovik3273
    @drobovik3273 4 года назад +17

    Thank you for covering our countries, long live South Caucasus. Greetings from Azerbaijan.

    • @georgiabatum706
      @georgiabatum706 3 года назад +1

      Zakatala kimindir?

    • @narimanmustafayev393
      @narimanmustafayev393 3 года назад

      @@georgiabatum706 bəs Borçalı kimindir?

    • @georgiabatum706
      @georgiabatum706 3 года назад

      @@narimanmustafayev393 zakatala bizimdir lenin muxtar gajieve verdi bizden zorla aldi

    • @narimanmustafayev393
      @narimanmustafayev393 3 года назад

      @@georgiabatum706 mənim sualıma da cavab ver də zəhmət olmasa.

    • @georgiabatum706
      @georgiabatum706 3 года назад

      @@narimanmustafayev393 bilmiorum borçali nedir

  • @rafaatadamrzazadeh4119
    @rafaatadamrzazadeh4119 4 года назад +5

    Nice one mate ,
    From Azerbaijan 🇦🇿

  • @malachi5813
    @malachi5813 2 года назад

    Well Done!

  • @CloseUp1961
    @CloseUp1961 4 года назад +2

    This is the basis of the Peace to End All Wars

  • @skiamakia
    @skiamakia 4 года назад +34

    long life independent Georgia !!

    • @princevonny
      @princevonny 4 года назад +5

      May the life of Georgia be as long as your unibrow.

  • @andrewevans5750
    @andrewevans5750 4 года назад +4

    keep it up. this is the way every world history class should start in high school. 1919 -1939 were still a giant cluster but no one knows about it. hopefully, this lasts all the way to the next century. imagine 100 years since desert storm

  • @franciscomm7675
    @franciscomm7675 4 года назад

    Will you do a video about the treaty of trianon, like the one you did about the treaty of saint germain?

  • @serzhannoob
    @serzhannoob 4 года назад +1

    Can u and the team make video about Central Asian Independence movements - Alash Orda, Turkestan Soviet Republic , Bukhara etc?

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  4 года назад +1

      we would love to.

    • @Game_Hero
      @Game_Hero 4 года назад +1

      @@TheGreatWar This is probably the most forgotten region in the world, so to learn its history would be a nice tribute to its historical importance.

  • @antivalidisme5669
    @antivalidisme5669 4 года назад +20

    Tiny, unorganized army and officers parading around in blingy uniforms. Some things never change.

    • @Strongholdex
      @Strongholdex 3 года назад

      Kartveli xar?

    • @dragonfuckekr1869
      @dragonfuckekr1869 3 года назад +2

      Even if true Georgian army was by far the most effective force in the region

  • @eduardovillicana8509
    @eduardovillicana8509 3 года назад +6

    2020 anyone especially today where there is conflict

  • @filiushermesio
    @filiushermesio 3 года назад +1

    Hello! There are some things in the video that are wrong, for example, a map of 1918-1921 south Caucasia.

  • @rohitrai6187
    @rohitrai6187 4 года назад

    What was the music playing around 12:00?

  • @CilicianElite
    @CilicianElite 4 года назад +15

    Thanks for covering the brief history of Armenia.

    • @mustafay4564
      @mustafay4564 3 года назад +2

      Hi from 🇹🇷. I think you have some problem with being neutral. In Your videos you always use the word “genocide”. Turkey serve all the historical records And allow everyone to Research. Do you know that in Armenia you cant reach the records. I ask everyone “Is this situation make Armenia unfair?” You Said that Turks captured eastern Anotolia. But Eastern Anatolia already belongs Turks over 1050 years. Please dont make your selves like a fool and blinders.

    • @zhongli6724
      @zhongli6724 3 года назад

      @@mustafay4564 Salam kardeşim :D
      ❤️🇦🇿🇹🇷❤️
      Azerbaycandan salamlar

  • @chilloutbruh1540
    @chilloutbruh1540 4 года назад +18

    Thank you for mentioning the March Massacres. Peace from Baku, Azerbaijan.

    • @sahinyasar9119
      @sahinyasar9119 4 года назад +7

      LONG LIVE AZERBAIJAN - LOVE FROM TURKEY

    • @fighterjet1yt946
      @fighterjet1yt946 4 года назад +1

      ChillOut Bruh he forgot to mention the attacks and massacres in 1918 that Azerbaijan did

    • @resul282
      @resul282 3 года назад

      Fighter Jet 1 Yt 8:50 he did but not detailed version

    • @moon-fw2ir
      @moon-fw2ir 3 года назад +2

      @@sahinyasar9119 AZƏRBAYCAN ❤️ TÜRKİYE 💪🐺🤘🇦🇿❤️🇹🇷 ONE NATİON, TWO STATES. 💪💪💪

  • @JoeRafinski
    @JoeRafinski 3 года назад +1

    This guy is great!