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Just a note to fellow Greeks, who are reading this. I am a Turk, who has been to many parts of the world including Greece. I have never seen any other nation this similar to us. I've wished the things did not happen this way. We must learn from our history, BUT not to hate each other. Instead let us focus on our vast similarities rather than small differences and promote fraternity, so that those things never happen again.
@@liteney it is utterly infantilistic when your army gets buttkicked and you cry 'gebocide'. We should have thrown your soldiers flowers rather than drowning them I guess. That's greek understanding how things work eh?
@@nuiaslou18 It was justifiable. After all, the Turks had been trying to conquer Europe for centuries from Anatolia, and they were severely persecuting/exterminating the Christians there.
Keith Kevelson exterminating the Christians? You sure man ? You do know that when Turks invaded somewhere they would allow the people in that place to live their lives however they wanted right ? Their cultures,languages etc Turks wouldnt get involved in that they could live freely they wanted to keep their culture and language ? They could they didnt wanna do that ? They could do that too TLDR nah man Christians or anyone from any religion wasnt killed they could live however they wanted to live
With all due respect, Ataturk was a heavy drinker. That is not to say he was alcoholic but due to his unending efforts to transform a nation. If I were him, I would've died of siroris well before the age of 57.
Love the way the yanks show up late for the war, only actually having been involved in combat for about the last 6 months yet had the arrogance to make demands about who should rule what.
As an Orthodox Christian I am overjoyed to see the comments section not full of hate and violence. I was reluctant to even look but I am glad I did, and to the Great war, wonderful video as always.
@@mehmeteking not entirely wrong. churchill was the first lord of admiralty during dardanelles campaign and was held responsible of the failure. He resigned from the office in nov. 15 and joined the army. Ataturk was the hero of the land battles of dardanelles. also lloyd george lost power after chanak crisis in 1922 which occured after Ataturk forced british forces out of bosphorus and dardanelles. during the crisis churchill was secretary of state for colonies and was undergoing an operation of apendicitis. churchill, with lloyd george were the ones calling for the war in chanak crisis and they paid the price. after the crisis churchill stated that he was "without an office, without a seat, without a party, and without an appendix". so, Ataturk nearly ended his political career not once, but twice.
03:30 The Allies' Eastern Question 06:45 The Greeks Come In 09:13 Trouble with the Italians 11:17 The Greeks Land at Smyrna 12:19 Administrative Restructuring of Izmir 14:00 Violence of Aydin 15:15 Introducing Mustafa Kemal Attaturk 16:49 Laying the Path for Liberation 19:40 The Allies Stall 21:31 The Izmir Investigative Reports 22:50 Greece Despaires, Turkey Grows in Strength 24:06 Turkish Nationalist Win the Parliament 24:25 Battling the French 24:44 Turkey 1, Allies 0
@miltos 5 they pretend it was about independence, when it was just a war to maintain their grip in Anatolia and persecute minorities as they've always done. They respect no treaty, not Lausagne, nothing. Remember 1955 and 1974.
@miltos 5 turks come here in 1071 after battle of manzikert turkish seljuks won the battle and conquer anatolia this lands just because the Greeks have been here for a long time than the Turks, they don't make this land
We as people always honour him and always will. Recep Tayyip can't even compare to Atatürk. The only thing Atatürk did wrong was he didn't take care of his health enough and died to early.
Last year I was in Jerusalem. And I was hiking on the mountains outside of Jerusalem, I remember seeing an ottoman barracks it was amazing. Just seeing how ancient it was and how it was set up all out of rocks and stones
oh Jerusalem has so many meaning starting from summers, and has been a very popular place since then. i had tour guided those places it was absolute historical moment even though i am atheist
That is not War of Independence it is *"War of National Liberation"* Cause to be a war of independence, Turkish people must have been colonized and lost it's government. But it is not like that. *War of National Liberation* Please correct the title, Almost all English sources about this writes it wrong.
yorumu görenler, ne kadar beğeni olursa üste çıkar; o kadar fazla kişi görür belki onlar da beğenir siz de buna benzer yorumlardan atabilirsiniz ayrıca
National liberation more like second conquest the Turks after all came from Mongolia and turkey was known as Anatolia until Turkish exploitation of Byzantine weakness after decades of exhausting war this is just another conquest
Although there were Turks whose homeland was occupied, you described all the massacres as if they were Turks. I blame you for your biased attitude. It was the Turks whose homeland was destroyed in this war, who were massacred and raped. I'm embarrassed for you. Shame.
orjinal ismi "İstiklal harbi" istiklal bağımsızlık demek. Bana göre bu ismin verilmesinin sebebi de Türk halkının Osmanlı hanedanının boyunduruğundan çıkıp, bağımsız bir cumhuriyet kurulması. Bu arada Kurtuluş'un birebir İngilizce karşılığı "salvation"'dır tabi burda kurtuluşu hangi bağlamda kullandığına göre farklı bir kelime de kullanılabilir. Yabancı kaynaklarda Kurtuluş Savaşı, "Greco-Turkish war" olarak geçer
The Great War didn't end until 1991, though most of the time was spent pointing big shooty explodey thingies at the enemy, either the west or east, depending on your side..
When you mention Turks killed or victimized, you never talk with numbers. Instead, you always say "some" ie. "some Turks killed". On the other hand, you are so eager to talk with numbers when it is vice versa, ten thousan, one million etc. This is not only disrepectful to the victims which you dehumanize by calling them "some" but also a signal of very biased-poor historianship. It is a shame, I would expect a better quality from your channel.
They follow the events month by month, so they'll be talking about the great battles in 1921 and 1922 in 2021 and 2022. They don't jump ahead. If you want to see the whole war discussed, Between 2 Wars did an excellent episode covering the whole war and it's aftermath.
"Peace at home peace in the world" -Commander-in-Chief Veteran Mustafa Kemal ATATÜRK We didn't say we didn't know how to fight, we said we didn't want war🤗
@@bentspoon6218 He was known as a Pacifist and non nationalist by everyone he was not your default ultra nationalist guy. he was more like an unifier type nationalist. How could he say a thing like that? Also ataturk was from Thessaloniki i cant imagine him saying "i should have killed all the people from my birthplace." Lmao
@@batsukan5934 There are people still alive to whom he said that. He wanted do exterminate EVERY Greek in Turkey, and yes, he DID say exactly that. He may have been born in Greece, but he hated the Greeks with all his barbaric soul.
Oh, I am sure they had their popcorn time while you were dealing with Ireland. And guess what? It's coming back, soon after Scotland's independence. Ireland is the gift of the Ottomans to your kind.
Mess?? This is just the calm before the storm!! Due soon after the Greek army started marching towards east, hundreds of kms deep inside Turkish majority Anatolia and Turkish revolutionaries started attacking every foreign force from the French to Brits and Greeks expect Italians alone who acted smart and left the chat peacefully :))
@@nomineterrameareligionis4021 Past. This video is only the beginning of the war of independence and still a lot of important information is missing(one example: Kazım Karabekir Pasha(one of the most important general in ottoman at those days) sent to arrest the Mustafa Kemal Pasha with his army by ottoman government but then join his side. But in the video they just say he join to the Kemal Pasha's side. Which I found this important to understand the situation.) And the person who open fire to greek forces is the Osman Nevres as known as Hasan Tahsin(writer, jornalist) was the national symbol. How can they say it was unkown(you can litteraly find this information by googling* the "who open the first fire to greek army at Turkey's War of Independence" or short version of this ). P.s: No disrespect for the work they have done to create this video of course.
Thank you very much for your effort and labor. We learn about this period of history thoroughly in Turkey. But still, this was quite an interesting and informative episode for me. I hope you cover 1920-23 in an other episode soon.
You dont learn anything in Turkey. You are in darkness basically. If any Turk tries to have a discussion with any history lover in the world it usually ends with denial.
Before covid we had gone on holiday to Greece twice each year, for 6 years. All we saw from Greek people was love and respect. All the best to Greece from Turkey.
@@kossllan6144 You seem to have a very warped view on what is happening between these two nations. If you keep poking someone in the eye, they will react. So the real question is why Greece feels it is in their strategic interest to poke their larger neighbor in the eye, what are they hoping to achieve aside from causing a reaction?
@@williamdavis9562 exactly that's the call bullying.. and don't look more than you are.. maybe you are Goliath but remember I am the David.??!!. so don't pock my eyes and kick my legs.. Agean sea is Greek.. if you touch Greece you will be Dust in the water. Got it?
@@williamdavis9562 Like how the Turkish air force keeps violating Greek and Cypriot territorial waters and airspace? And openly, from their own government, calling for the annexation of Greek islands to Turkey amidst all this?
1. Greco-Turkish War: The Greeks had great power fantasies after they got their country and it was also recognized by the Ottoman Empire. They wanted to conquer Turkish territories and lost. In the end Greece was smaller than before. Mission failed. 2. Then the Greeks wanted to seize all the islands off Turkey by force, including Cyprus. Mission also failed. 3. Now the Greeks are breaking the Treaty of Lausanne and are militarizing their islands that lie directly off the Turkish mainland waters, causing great instability again. The Greeks really want war. That's what they want. They don't want peace.
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@koksal ceylan i hope this comment is joke . Otherwise it is too sad for the earth that you still produce carbon dioxide. What a shame for Turkish Nation
Most of them are 11 years old. Because it's social media, the numbers seem a lot, but it's not. Neither the people of Greece nor the Turkish people want war and not hate each other. Such videos also serve as provocative.
@@oboi650 You'd be surprised what percentage of the population in both nations are thinking war with their neighbor is a great idea. Most nations have their fair share of idiots. Look at your youtube name for god's sake. America won't be spared this fate either.
@@ahmetserdarunal8229 go cry somewhere else. Maybe swim over to greece for safety? Your countrys crackhead leader is going to war against the whole world
Honestly, as a Greek, I'd blame my fellow countrymen for managing to divide the nation even at its darkest hours. And most of all, those damn royalists who didn't see beyond their family getting settled in a ministry or something else. Venizelos, was the pioneer of modern Greece. Certainly not like what Mustafa Kemal Pasha was for the Turks; that role belongs to Alexander Ypsilantes 100 years prior. But he actually believed and worked for a modern Greece, back in the hardest times of modern history. I'd never blame the Turks for their war of Independence, but I'd blame the Greek royalists who were unable to see the truth. If Venizelos was elected in 1919, things would be vastly different in the area and EVEN if Greece didn't manage to hold Smyrna, at least there wouldn't be so many pointless death.
Let me guess... leftist? Leftist "Greeks" are always blaming Greeks for antihellenism in other countries. They have long long history of treason. If leftist were around during the Greek revolution they would have fought for the Ottomans.
@@mydogsbutler he condemned royalists for their policy that led to pointless deaths; You felt offended citing filthy McCarthyist propaganda of the past. A shameful display on your behalf, of course. Nothing to surprise, since fellow of yours, royalists' correspondence of the time is filled with racist, derogatory, and felonious rhetoric towards the population that suffered... another shameful display. Also, mentioned Venizelos wasn't even a leftist, he was centrist. Get a clue of your ability to judge others.
@@Manouil_III Did you do lots of drugs as a kid? I said nothing "racist" you slanderous troll. Greeks suffered for centuries under Turkish occupation. As did many other peoples that were treated as second class citizen under the Ottomans. You seem to have "forgotten" that little part in your narrative you anti-hellenic leftist bigot.
Turks did not fight against the British during this conflict but nearly did as a result of the Channak Crisis. Check out the fantastic Turkish TV series "Kurtulous" about the Greco-Turkish War.
Due to traditional hostilities between Greeks and Turks, this topic is a difficult one to tell. And your two advisors seem to have at least Greek roots if not citizens of Greece. Still, as a Turk I did not feel insulted and found the video objective when I watched the video. I even had the joy of learning new things. I must make a point though. I am not a historian. I am reading and watching history as a hobby. Hence, my opinion may not be important :)
Thanks for your comment, Ahmet. Dr. Travlos is Greek but works in Turkey and, most importantly, is a professional academic. In any case, I did the research and writing, and he gave some advice only, so the responsibility for the episode is mine. I am glad that you liked it, and my efforts at providing a balanced view of the war up until February 1920 were visible!
The truth is both sides made mistakes against one another on that campaign.We did so many horrible things to each other, imagine what we could have achieved if united. Peace from Greece and stay away from the fanatics.
@@eofter2677 that is always the excuse, not the actual goal. Elistists don't give a nut about people mate. They use them as lubricants for their engine.
@@attalus5610 This is the excuse we are taught in Greek Schools mate. A euphemism for offensive wars. Nation States use minorities as an excuse to attack an other country. Greece did it to Turkey, Turkey did it do Cyprus etc. Kosovo is on the menu...too The excuse is "History" and "Minorities" when the goal is always economics.
It is strikingly shocking how todays Greeks do not get how todays world is shaped and claiming some lands their forefathers conquered in the antiquity and then lost to other nations a thousand years ago and never forget to mention if they are really the descendants of Hellenes indeed, it is really stupid , especially considering the small population they have , what are those people living in Greece going to do with İstanbul,İzmir or other towns of other countries, İstanbul itself has double the population of whole Greece today
It is really easy to attack a nation while there are 4 superpowers of the world supporting you and fighting against Turks in different fronts but losing, what a shame.
@@konstantinostravlos210 We just lost 90.000 troops at Sarıkamıs becasue of 'Winter' so we quickly signed a treaty between Russia and Turkey with that we closed a front and had more power to fight with France and ''Italy''(yes italy fought with Turkey) and that traty is today's borders of Caucasia we waive some lands like Batum which is Georgia's capital now.
@@youravaragetoxicmasculinem9508 Tiblisi is Georgia's capital. According to the Turkish Army General Staff Directory of History series on the Turkish War of Independence you did not fight Italy. I will take their word over yours.
whem i asked my great grand father what happened in war he said to me : I DID THINGS THAT I AM NOT PROUD OF. WAR IS SITUATION THAT TURNS HUMAN IN WORST LIVING BEING IN UNIVERSE. When i asked if he killed a lot of turks he said me, yes. But never unarmed. But he killed a lot of turkish soldiers.
Thanks for your effort for making a objective video. I like this video but i have to say something about city names which you used . As a Turkish person who lived in Turkey, i can say that, there is no cities as named Constatinopole and Smyrna. There are Istanbul and İzmir. This could be old names of this cities but nobody use word "New Amsterdam" to describe the New York city. Old names are in the past. We expect a little respect in that case.
Side note: We do not call the name of the war "War of Independence" but "War of Liberation". This name is also most fitting since Turkey has always been independent.
Who is you? Because Fahri Belen calls it Kuturlus Savasi, but Cevdet Kerim İncedayı calls it Istikal Harbi. Considering Incedayi wrote the first one volume military history of the war in Turkish, here is the first military historian of the war using a term you claim no one uses (by the way Incedayi actually fought in the war)
@@95bekirable sure, but considering I gave them Incedayi and Belen as sources, they used the term those used (I mean they both actually fought in the war)
@@95bekirable for the Turkish perspective or for the whole interrelated story. For Turkish I think War of National Formation is good. It points out that the war was not just about independence, but also forming a new nation. But in general I would call all of the wars of 1919-1923 as Wars of Anatolian Succession. They were interrelated but not per se one thing (there was no coordination between the Greek, Armenian and French war efforts). In this sense it is similar to the wars that resulted form the fall of the Russian Empire. Do you treat the Polish-Soviet War as part of the Russian Civil War, or as a distinct conflict?
I have viewed a few of your videos and must say they are informative. But I have also come to a conclusion. In subjects regarding Turks or as of now Türkiye your jealousy, racism and hatred is depicted deliberately. For example, you begin by stating in January 1920 Constantinople INCORRECT In 1920 it was ISTANBUL. And for the past, present and the future it will be ISTANBUL. You know this to be the TRUTH Therefore I believe you deliberately create and incite hatred. Which makes you a foolish man.
You said that İzmir (Smyrna) was majority of Greeks at that time. It is absolutely lie. It was a false report of Greece for make the invasion legal. After invasion and Greeks persecution, American Admiral Bristol did investigation around region and declared that It is a lie and invasion should be stop. You should check Admiral Bristol Report
Greeks were encouraged by United Kingdom and supported by United Kingdom financially and military during the war. United Kingdom concerned for its public reaction remembering former Dardanel war casualties. Greek troops massacred thousands of civil Turkish people in Anatolia. Greeks should always think twice when it comes to Turks and not to be toy of emperialistic desires.
Turks never would have won the war if not for the Italians leaving behind all their machinery and artillery, plus the other powers just picked up and left..... they never wanted a fight .... Greeks fought hard but were outnumbered and had no reserves in manpower or machinery. Our allies were not true allies and never have been. Turks are better allies to the Greeks than anyone else.. Believe it or not !!
Venizelos had the support of England not Greece.When he lost the elections of 1920 and German King Konstantinos came back,the allies along with Bolsheviks helped Kemal thats why Turkey won in the end.Greece made a suicide by throwing out Venizelos
@@constantinep.9357 Turkish soldiers attacked by airstrike in Syria unexpected and you proud of this? I think thats in your blood to being proud of unfair fights. Tell those thing about turkish soldiers deaths to a turkish man see what happens to your ugly face you fierce keyboard warrior.
I hope this video has a second part because it has litterally so little info about the Turkish War Of Independence. Video ends right around time time it starts.
Izmir did not have a Greek majority before the Greek invasion. The Greek government sent refugees to settle down and make it look like there was a Greek majority. Also in the first day of the invasion of Izmir at least 2.000 Turkish civilians were slaughtered to make it look like there was a Greek majority. Still there was Turkish Majority. These are documented, if you look it up before you comment anything, I would be happy.
@@ziovanni77 You see, the Greek historians claim that there was a Greek majority, the Turkish well, a Turkish one. It is also WAY too absurd for there to be a Greek majority 2 times than the Turkish, since İzmir was Turkish land. And i would also like to let you know that the Greek government sent Christian refugees to İzmir to make it seem like a Greek majority. And the Greek high command also ordered killings of Muslim civilians to support their claim. Now, the reason this topic is still being brought up even today is that by that time it was useful for allies to make it look like a rightful war. So this Greek majority lie was known and accepted by the majority of countries. I am not an Anti Greek or any sort of racist but the facts are there and you cannot simply find them by "googling" it. There many layers of misinformation that leads to it. So Please make a deeper research if you truly want to understand it.
@@thehouse9192 ok,but what you are saying sounds like you are just repeating what the Turkish side is claiming! Shouldn't you follow your own advice and not trust either side but try to gather information and put it to scrutiny? For instance how did the greek government brought people in Izmir,are there photos or reports of that? Where did these people live,the conflicting Greek government wouldn't be able to built for them surely. Did they just stay in the streets? And which of the two is it,did the Greeks bring people and make them a majority or was it they were lying about the population there? Also you suggest to look it up, where?Do you have reliable sources that make your case except what the Turkish government claims? It was not a Turkish city it was an ottoman one,an empire that had many different ethnicities in it.Or do you claim that all cities in ottoman empire were Turkish majority? Smyrna was a Greek city before the ottomans just like many others that kept their Greek majority. So Smyrna being turkish argument doesnt fly,it became turkish just after these events. See,I tried to use reasoning and what I can find in the internet to draw a conclusion. Can you do the same?
@@ziovanni77 You are right my friend. Honestly i have been repeating what has been thought to me. I havent done deep research either. But i thought that with enough effort you could find it. It was foolish of me not to give you any sources. I have an exam coming up even in these quarantined times, so i cant really suggest you anything. I am deeply sorry.
No one askes this question; why did Turks furiously react to Greek occupation? Because upto that moment English had occupied the capital, Italians entered to south, French too… no major objection had arisen.The reason is; Turks knew what atrocities Greeks had done during Balkan War and more than 2 million Turks were deported by either Greeks or Bulgars from Balkans to western Anatolia. They knew same extermination would happen after the first Greek soldier landed to Smyrna.
Since early 1914 the Turks started the genocide of about 2 million Greeks which lived in Thrace and Anatolia. Greece asked to exchange populations - Turks for Greeks, to stop genocide. But Neo-Turkish government of the Ottoman empire denied it. They was saying, that no killings was committed on Greeks, which was a lie. They said, that if Greeks wanted the exchange of population, though, then they have to give Turkey the islands of Lemnos and Lesbos (Midile). Greece did not agree. So, the genocide of Greeks continued till 1923, when the Lausanne peace was signed. Finally, about 1,4 mln of Greeks came from Turkey to Greece, and up to 300 thousand to Russia and western countries. The rest of then, something like 300 thousand people, are lost. Most of them killed by turks. It means that Turks killed in 1914 - 1923 about 15 % of the Greek-Orthodox population of Turkey (Anatolia and Turkish Thrace).
@@nadiapapadopoulo471 wow 2 million Greeks started to be massacred from 1914 on which is 15% of Greek population. 2/0.15 = 13.3 million Greek lived in Ottoman empire where the 1914 census is 18.5 million. More than today’s greek population where in population exchange 1 million Greek were sent to Greece. I am not gonna argue anything with a Turkish or Greek nationalist who has no clue about what he/she is talking about. May the peace with you…
@sülüman At the Ottoman Empire your ancestors were peasants too. The only difference is that you mongols remain peasants until today. That's why you don't belong and you will never belong in Europe.
@@iwannalavassa5501 What is your source Britons never helped Turks even Britons produced tanks and airplanes for greeks. Mainly russians gave support to turks in war
Also the name of the war is totally wrong. We, as Turks, did not fight for our independence. We fought for our liberation. Our country was not neither colonized nor annexed. When it comes to this topic, there is a big misunderstanding from the side of western sources. Cheers.
I must correct a huge error: Mustafa Kemal was sent to Samsun by the Sultan ( Vanidettin) with the order of the British authorities to control some unruly residents of the region who were giving “hard time”to the Christians. So he went to Samsun to control the area. Neither the Sultan nor the occupiers were aware of his real intentions. You gave the impression that he was openly organizing resistence. .
M, Kemal went to meet Russian Generals to have weapons agreement from Russian Government ..That is how ,he won the war.. Russians wanted exchange of guns deal. They wanted , Turks to be in their side as communist regime. And M.Kemal said ..One thing at at a time,, Will talk later said.. and story goes on.,,
What kind of History channel is this? City names called Constantinapol or Symrna are historical names. The names of these cities are Istanbul and Izmir. After all, you could write the names of Ankara and Bursa differently. But you didn't write. You are not neutral. What a shame.
My great grandfather ,Pete Christophus, came here to America in the early 1920s as a stowaway on a trade ship. I didn't know about this history until today. I now understand what he was going through.
Bu savaş bizim kaderimizi yazan bir savaştır. çok acılar çektik çok fedakarlık yaptık keşke barış içinde yaşayabilseydik ama olmadı. bu meşru müdafaa etmektir
@Talûn-karkû The Warchief you did not have to write this.This video is about greco-Turkish war so he can write anythin in Turkish It is not your businnes
Greece was too greedy... Just like us - Bulgaria during the balkan wars.......... And Serbia after the collapse of Yugoslavia.... Same mistake again and again........ Only the romanians were smart enough to hold larger territory.
A century up ahead, we come again to that the Greeks being heavily equipped and armored by US Army this time- previously a century ago by British - and american military presence in various Greece territory including land border Dedeağaç (Alexandroupol) and already Greek occupying Turkish islands by grace of Mr. Erdoğan's silence for two decades, i hope they won't attack in the name of USA this time. The result will be same under same circonstances. Greece is indeed under US occupation but when it will be revealed noone knows.
@@nabevks those which were not namely and precisely indicated to be under rule of Greece by internstional treaties since Republic of Turkey is sucessor state.
Τhe map presented at 8.36 is wrong for at least two reasons... For one, Crete (the big island on the lower part of the map) had become a de facto state (called Kritiki Politia) in 1898 and remained so until its defacto union with Greece in 1908 or de jure union in 1913. The Ottoman Empire accepted its annexation to Greece with the Treaty of Athens (1/14 Novmber 1913), and therefore its status was not to be (re)negotiated during or after WWI. Secondly, the islands Greece claimed during the Peace Conference in Paris were only the Dodecanese (which the Italians occupied since May 1912), as the rest had been liberated by the Greek navy in late 1912 (during the Balkan Wars) and had been aknowledged as Greek by the Powers in February 1913, under the precondition that Greece evacuated Northern Epirus /Southern Albania. Please be more careful when depicting and colouring disputed areas, as some might think that Greece was claiming more than she had right to or had been promised. (The bargaining that preceded her entry to the war is also interesting, although - I understand - a bit lengthy and complicated to include in such a video).
@Archelaos Archon "Eevryone was aidinh Kemal" no. All the winners of the ww1 except Russia were supporting Greece and Ottoman dynasty who was an eneny of Kemal. Greeks were better equipped and had better weapons. No need to find execuses. Turkey had been founded from the ashes of an declined empire.
“Savunma hattı yoktur, savunma sathı vardır. O satıh bütün vatandır. Vatanın her karış toprağı vatandaşın kanıyla ıslanmadıkça terk olunamaz.” -Mustafa Kemal ATATÜRK
@Talûn-karkû The Warchief you need a lot of history lessons m8. until the empire grew weak at its last stages, this corner of eurasia used to be the civilized one, where people of many different religions (at least three come to mind) could make a society function properly. In case you haven't noticed, not all Turks are of Mongolian descent, many decided to adopt a turkish identity so that they would not have to become refugees in a nationalistic Greece, who would not tolerate Muslim Greeks (still does not). We share eating and drinking habits, work ethos and ethics. We even prefer the same sports. And, at the time, we used to speak each other's language. Children at the villages used to grow up together. So, I think you got the answer you were seeking.
You said that İzmir (Smyrna) was majority of Greeks at that time. It is absolutely lie. It was a false report of Greece for make the invasion legal. After invasion and Greeks persecution, American Admiral Bristol did investigation around region and declared that It is a lie and invasion should be stop. You should check Admiral Bristol Report
What I’m hearing is that the Allies loved the Greek PM because they loved the Percy Jackson books. That’s like if the allies gave Hirohito a pass simply because they thought Tokugawa was pretty lit.
As a Greek I will clear why Allies liked Greek PM (Eleftherios Venizelos). In WW1 Greece was divided between the King (who was in German's side) and the Greek PM (who was in Allies side). Furthermore, Greek King gave up and Greek PM joined Entente in WW1. After WW1, in 1919 Greece helped in thd invasion of Crimea to topple USSR. This is why Entente and Venizelos had so positive relationship. I hope I helped :)
Greek soldiers came my village(Manisa/Çoruk) in 1920. They looked all houses and found 6 young Turkish men. Then they killed all of them. The young men are not soldier. I hope, it will not again anywhere any person.
You should also add Fraco-Turkish British-Turkish(Izmit, Mudanya, Derbent) Georgian-Turkish American bombardment of Samsun during Turkish independence war.
If I was Greek I too would find it hard to swallow that you have been expelled from territories that were your home for hundreds of years (almost millenia) before Turkish tribes came into the picture. Justice is meaningless unless you can enforce it. Many others in the world have suffered tsimilar fate and are now urged to swallow the pill in the name of the new realities of globalism. Color me unconvinced.
Change Obligatoire / fr, Mandatory Change ...It was with the insistence and pressure of Llyod George, Lord Curzon and Venizalos.The Turks didn't want it.Learn history
@@yakupkeser248 Well, the Turcs destroyed the Byzantine Empire because of greed. It was the cradle of western civilization. You mess with it, but your can't escape the effects. Culturally , all Europeans are half Greek, so to speak. Wether you are Spanish, Greek, Hungarian, Danish or Italian. There is no way you can go back to erase that. You picked a difficult enemy and the consequences are never going to leave you. It will remain part of your heritage.
Great documentary..a couple of things not highlighted...1500,000 Christian Armenias , 350,000 Greeks & another 300,000 christians were Genocided by the Turks so Asia minor might be free of any Minorities, hence today's Turkey is 98 % Muslim.The Kurds were promised independence/ Autonomy by the Turks after the war which was never implemented, hence PKK.Russia supported the Turkish effort by guns etc as it did not want the dardenels straights to fall to the west.....End of the war brought population exchange between Greece & Turkey so no minorities Greek or Turkish existed in either country...Asia minor was never Turkish, minorities lived three for milinium before the Turkish tribes moved in...
@Arda 3. You are wrong. See Onur Yildirim "Diplomacy and Displacement" www.crcpress.com/Diplomacy-and-Displacement-Reconsidering-the-Turco-Greek-Exchange-of-Populations/Yildirim/p/book/9780415649070
Canucks should be glad that after the legendary performance their armies put on in the Western Front they could return over the Atlantic and live far away from the repercussions.
At 8:10 the quote uses the word "insupportable". This is a very common word in French and probably betrays the fact that the original quote was in French, a language widely used in diplomacy at that time. Although the word exists in English; the French "insupportable" would be more commonly translated into English as "intolerable".
It's this region that most clearly defies the traditional notion that world war one was fought 1914-1918. If you were an Ottoman subject of fighting age, you would have been at war almost continuously from 1911 to 1923. 12 years as opposed to four. Balkan troops faced a similar situation, with Greece going to war in 1912, 1913 and again in 1916/17 (depends whether you count the quasi-civil war between supporters of king Constantine and Venizelos). Imagine being at war for 12 years. How does one come back to a peaceful life after that?
For us Turks it was a longer war of almost 50 years of no peace !! (Starting w. Turkish-Russian war, uprisings in Balkans, Balkan War, WW1 and the final war w. Greece and other Occupants of Anatolia until 1922.
Actually it was worse than that since the wars in Balkans have started from Balkan Wars (1912-1913), if you also count the battles between mostly Bulgarian and Greek troops and in lesser degree Ottoman troops in Macedonia which ended in 1908 then they fought for even longer, and for the Greeks and Turks didn't end until the 1923 peace treaty.
15:25 "Ottoman general Mustaf Kemal" (Ataturk) He had actually resigned his commission. (He had been outlawed by the Sultan) It was a brave move, and he wondered whether the troops would continue to obey him in civilian clothes. 1920 16 march occupation of Constantinople by allies 11 may Kemal condemned to death by sultan's government 22 June Greek army advances into Anatolia 1921 6-10 Jan Greek advance checked at battle of Ionunu P.S. this is not a criticism, just additional info. This series is a fantastic overview of the Great War
Well, they did get a lot of land, look at all the islands in Greece, and all the gains that happened in the Middle East by the British and French. The Turks lost half their land and lost some of the richest lands in Europe, the Cyclades. The average income there is over 90,000 euros.
Such an amazing video thanks for that, but you should make a second part because there were too much more details about the battles between greek and turkish forces. I'm living in smyrine as a turk, visit greece often we are more or less same people and we like eachothers except some radicals on both sides. I'm living near a catholich greek church and I wish there are more greeks in my city because smyrina belongs them as much as she belongs to us.
Ne saçmalıyorsun yav. Demek ki İzmir e sonradan geldin. Bende çok yunan gömmüş mavzer miras kaldı. Bu miras kalırken çok insanımızı şehit verdik ama çok hainide gömmüş dedeler. Eğer zayıflarsan yunan seni katletmeye gelir , güçlüysen barış devam eder. Zaten doğa işi zamana yaymış yunan 50 sene sonra nüfus artışı durup yokolacak.😂😂😂. Bizim yapmadığımızı doğa yapacak.
ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ ΚΟΥΡΤΗΣ Greece tried its best to claim their millenium old territories. But they lost eventually. Respect to all who died in greco turkish war. Love from turkey komşu 🇹🇷 🇬🇷
gokcan cakmak if i were Greek prime minister i would not go so far i will kept the zone of smirna built a wall waiting for the referendum and taking smyrna thats all.
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Basically 1918-1923 timeline
@@mckanow did you just answered to your own comment? And even liked it?
@@NickariusSN nah someone said something about a timeline and i replied he then deleted his comment probably
@@mckanow oh ok then lol
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Comments:
5% *Nationalists*
10% *Other Comments*
85% *People Talking About Nationalists*
Keep your bland communist sentiments.
So does your comment come under the 10% or the 85%?
@@benholroyd5221 Put you head in the pidgon hole and find out.
Mad and Bad
Ben Holroyd this is that half of the 10% that complains about the people complaining about the nationalists
Hello to all Greeks and Turks from a Mexican friend.
The only non toxic comment on this thread
@@charlesnorris9506 well I try not to be. :)
as a mexican i agree with a mexican Kaiser
Hi
@@adventurekarma thanks
Just a note to fellow Greeks, who are reading this. I am a Turk, who has been to many parts of the world including Greece. I have never seen any other nation this similar to us. I've wished the things did not happen this way. We must learn from our history, BUT not to hate each other. Instead let us focus on our vast similarities rather than small differences and promote fraternity, so that those things never happen again.
How can you be Greek if you are Turk? The Turks colonized the Greeks. You are colonizer of Greeks, Turk.
@@liteney As a Greek Cypriot he was trying to be positive so why can’t you be?
@@angelind1sguise Positive? He was attempting to down play the fact that Turks not only colonized Greeks but committed genocide against them.
@@angelind1sguise You kill people, steal their land, than call yourself by their name? No...
@@liteney it is utterly infantilistic when your army gets buttkicked and you cry 'gebocide'. We should have thrown your soldiers flowers rather than drowning them I guess. That's greek understanding how things work eh?
Ottoman Empire: We surrender!
Turkey: Sike!
Siktir! 🇹🇷❤️
It was an annexation of Anatolia and everybody know it so dont judge anyone.
@@nuiaslou18 It was justifiable. After all, the Turks had been trying to conquer Europe for centuries from Anatolia, and they were severely persecuting/exterminating the Christians there.
Keith Kevelson exterminating the Christians? You sure man ? You do know that when Turks invaded somewhere they would allow the people in that place to live their lives however they wanted right ? Their cultures,languages etc Turks wouldnt get involved in that they could live freely they wanted to keep their culture and language ? They could they didnt wanna do that ? They could do that too
TLDR nah man Christians or anyone from any religion wasnt killed they could live however they wanted to live
@@mehmetalierguven8804 nice propaganda
Treaty of Sevres: I'm about to end this man's whole career.
Mustafa Kemal: Hold my raki
Well said...Kemal threw ma grandpa to the sea....thats war my Greek fellas...we won...and then we lost...no hard feelings..
@Chewbacca Tea was not popular during this era. Turkish coffee was popular and you can see ataturk drinking turkish coffee during battle of sakarya :D
@Chewbacca He died because of alcohol so it wasn't a çay
@Caravanserai of Life you mean he was busy commiting a genocide.
With all due respect, Ataturk was a heavy drinker. That is not to say he was alcoholic but due to his unending efforts to transform a nation. If I were him, I would've died of siroris well before the age of 57.
"Wilson could think of nothing the people of the United States would be less inclined to accept than military responsibility in Asia"
If only that sentiment of the people had continued.
@@calc1657 It did. The government stopped listening.
Which is exactly why an American mandate would have been a solution if it had been possible.
Love the way the yanks show up late for the war, only actually having been involved in combat for about the last 6 months yet had the arrogance to make demands about who should rule what.
@@DeepseaSteve When America kept the Allies afloat with supplies and most importantly, money long before 1917...
As an Orthodox Christian I am overjoyed to see the comments section not full of hate and violence. I was reluctant to even look but I am glad I did, and to the Great war, wonderful video as always.
Allies:Alright let's invade Turkey
Atatürk: *Im about the end this man whole career*
Wel,its starts all over again.
With a nice Constantonople as victory.
Turkey begs to be kicket out of,,Turkey
This man is Winston Churchill he said that
@@RedbadvanRijn-ft3vv xD
@@mehmeteking not entirely wrong. churchill was the first lord of admiralty during dardanelles campaign and was held responsible of the failure. He resigned from the office in nov. 15 and joined the army. Ataturk was the hero of the land battles of dardanelles.
also lloyd george lost power after chanak crisis in 1922 which occured after Ataturk forced british forces out of bosphorus and dardanelles. during the crisis churchill was secretary of state for colonies and was undergoing an operation of apendicitis. churchill, with lloyd george were the ones calling for the war in chanak crisis and they paid the price. after the crisis churchill stated that he was "without an office, without a seat, without a party, and without an appendix". so, Ataturk nearly ended his political career not once, but twice.
Ataturk is a genius leader!
And fortunately the Greeks and Turks never clashed again, held no grudges and became best mates.
Hahah the irony is strong with this one
Exactly!
Yeah just like the Chinese and Taiwanese and India and Pakistan!
@Gollum There are people on both sides who havent moved on.
@Gollum its actually the exact opposite though, you can see it from the anti Greek sentiment in Turkey.
03:30 The Allies' Eastern Question
06:45 The Greeks Come In
09:13 Trouble with the Italians
11:17 The Greeks Land at Smyrna
12:19 Administrative Restructuring of Izmir
14:00 Violence of Aydin
15:15 Introducing Mustafa Kemal Attaturk
16:49 Laying the Path for Liberation
19:40 The Allies Stall
21:31 The Izmir Investigative Reports
22:50 Greece Despaires, Turkey Grows in Strength
24:06 Turkish Nationalist Win the Parliament
24:25 Battling the French
24:44 Turkey 1, Allies 0
THE VIDEO ENDS WHEN THE TURKISH WAR OF INDEPENDENCE IS ABOUT TO START
Yeah, it will probably go on next year
The video is called Greco-Turkish war, what do you expect?
@@Nikonomicon ITS TITLED GRECO-TURKISH WAR AND THE TURKISH WAR OF INDEPENDENCE
@miltos 5 they pretend it was about independence, when it was just a war to maintain their grip in Anatolia and persecute minorities as they've always done. They respect no treaty, not Lausagne, nothing. Remember 1955 and 1974.
@miltos 5 turks come here in 1071 after battle of manzikert turkish seljuks won the battle and conquer anatolia this lands just because the Greeks have been here for a long time than the Turks, they don't make this land
Hello to all Greeks and Turks from a Brazilian friend.
Bless u brotha from TURKEY
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@Bedirhan Tigin hey, how are u? And I speak Portuguese🙂
Hello greek American here!
Atatürk was a great man. It is a pity that Turkey's current leader doesn't honor his legacy
@Arda Justifying one atrocity for another. Hypocrite.
We as people always honour him and always will. Recep Tayyip can't even compare to Atatürk. The only thing Atatürk did wrong was he didn't take care of his health enough and died to early.
IT WAS TOO BIG FOR HIM, HE AND HIS BULLSHIT ARE PROTECTED BY LAW 5816. SEBATAIS AND JEWISH GAMES AND BRAGGARTS.
Last year I was in Jerusalem. And I was hiking on the mountains outside of Jerusalem, I remember seeing an ottoman barracks it was amazing. Just seeing how ancient it was and how it was set up all out of rocks and stones
I went through an ottoman fort in Greece and yeah, it’s surreal. Strange but also impressive how such an old empire lasted into the 20th century.
oh Jerusalem has so many meaning starting from summers, and has been a very popular place since then. i had tour guided those places it was absolute historical moment even though i am atheist
That is not War of Independence
it is *"War of National Liberation"*
Cause to be a war of independence, Turkish people must have been colonized and lost it's government.
But it is not like that.
*War of National Liberation*
Please correct the title, Almost all English sources about this writes it wrong.
@Ömer Faruk Bıyıklı ESG Den geldiğimizi belli edelim. adgsdggdsd
@@denizdemir5457 aynen
yorumu görenler, ne kadar beğeni olursa üste çıkar; o kadar fazla kişi görür belki onlar da beğenir
siz de buna benzer yorumlardan atabilirsiniz ayrıca
National liberation more like second conquest the Turks after all came from Mongolia and turkey was known as Anatolia until Turkish exploitation of Byzantine weakness after decades of exhausting war this is just another conquest
Osmanlı'dan ayrılarak yeni bir devlet kurduğumuz için bağımsızlık savaşı deniyor.
Although there were Turks whose homeland was occupied, you described all the massacres as if they were Turks. I blame you for your biased attitude. It was the Turks whose homeland was destroyed in this war, who were massacred and raped. I'm embarrassed for you. Shame.
In Turkey, we do not call it "War of Independence" as we were independent at that time. We call it "War of Survival"
More like liberation.
orjinal ismi "İstiklal harbi" istiklal bağımsızlık demek. Bana göre bu ismin verilmesinin sebebi de Türk halkının Osmanlı hanedanının boyunduruğundan çıkıp, bağımsız bir cumhuriyet kurulması. Bu arada Kurtuluş'un birebir İngilizce karşılığı "salvation"'dır tabi burda kurtuluşu hangi bağlamda kullandığına göre farklı bir kelime de kullanılabilir. Yabancı kaynaklarda Kurtuluş Savaşı, "Greco-Turkish war" olarak geçer
@@Geckotr Cidadi Milli, yeni adiyla milli mucadele.
The great war did not end in 1918 it ended in 1945. The interwar years were a intermission.
More like the incoherent and disorganized 2nd act of a 3 act show.
The Great War didn't end until 1991, though most of the time was spent pointing big shooty explodey thingies at the enemy, either the west or east, depending on your side..
@chris jones yes, you are correct, from thisbpoint on, the war on terror and the war on drugs are both now an official extension of the great war
Well then the Great War lasts forever
@@randomgamer3964 yaaaaaaaaaay were fucked
When you mention Turks killed or victimized, you never talk with numbers. Instead, you always say "some" ie. "some Turks killed". On the other hand, you are so eager to talk with numbers when it is vice versa, ten thousan, one million etc. This is not only disrepectful to the victims which you dehumanize by calling them "some" but also a signal of very biased-poor historianship. It is a shame, I would expect a better quality from your channel.
Wait... Where is the rest of this, where is the actual war of independence?
bölüm bölüm yapıyolar hocam
@@onlinekurtu anladım teşekkürler, devamını bekliyoruz o zaman.
They follow the events month by month, so they'll be talking about the great battles in 1921 and 1922 in 2021 and 2022. They don't jump ahead. If you want to see the whole war discussed, Between 2 Wars did an excellent episode covering the whole war and it's aftermath.
Long live Mustafa Kemal pasha 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇦🇿🇦🇿 yaşa Mustafa Kemal paşa yaşa adın yazıldı mücevher taşa
No long live he is already dead 🇹🇷
Papatyagul gurbetci names never dies
"Peace at home peace in the world" -Commander-in-Chief Veteran Mustafa Kemal ATATÜRK
We didn't say we didn't know how to fight, we said we didn't want war🤗
Ataturk said, 'I should have killed all the Greeks. I regretted leaving even one Greek alive'. He was just a cold blooded butcher.
@@bentspoon6218 yeah right lol. Any source?
@@bentspoon6218 He was known as a Pacifist and non nationalist by everyone he was not your default ultra nationalist guy. he was more like an unifier type nationalist. How could he say a thing like that? Also ataturk was from Thessaloniki i cant imagine him saying "i should have killed all the people from my birthplace." Lmao
@@batsukan5934 There are people still alive to whom he said that. He wanted do exterminate EVERY Greek in Turkey, and yes, he DID say exactly that. He may have been born in Greece, but he hated the Greeks with all his barbaric soul.
@@bentspoon6218 how do you know it is true which site do you search it
i dont know why everyone hates on greek and turkish nationalists fighting, i say let it continue, it's very entertaining
we have a saying here: "this could have been considered as an entertaining country if we were not living in it."
@pēdro ' cool story bro but as a person living on a small island on the other side of the continent it is very entertaining to watch
@SLUTSUKKI َ Yeah cause the truth hurts
Oh, I am sure they had their popcorn time while you were dealing with Ireland. And guess what? It's coming back, soon after Scotland's independence. Ireland is the gift of the Ottomans to your kind.
What a mess.
Mad and bad
Mess?? This is just the calm before the storm!! Due soon after the Greek army started marching towards east, hundreds of kms deep inside Turkish majority Anatolia and Turkish revolutionaries started attacking every foreign force from the French to Brits and Greeks expect Italians alone who acted smart and left the chat peacefully :))
Caused by the West
@@ggoddkkiller1342 I didnt understood your text, are you speaking about a future or the past?
@@nomineterrameareligionis4021 Past. This video is only the beginning of the war of independence and still a lot of important information is missing(one example: Kazım Karabekir Pasha(one of the most important general in ottoman at those days) sent to arrest the Mustafa Kemal Pasha with his army by ottoman government but then join his side. But in the video they just say he join to the Kemal Pasha's side. Which I found this important to understand the situation.) And the person who open fire to greek forces is the Osman Nevres as known as Hasan Tahsin(writer, jornalist) was the national symbol. How can they say it was unkown(you can litteraly find this information by googling* the "who open the first fire to greek army at Turkey's War of Independence" or short version of this ).
P.s: No disrespect for the work they have done to create this video of course.
Can’t wait for soviet-polish war videos which I assume will be coming in the next few months
yes!
Thank you very much for your effort and labor. We learn about this period of history thoroughly in Turkey. But still, this was quite an interesting and informative episode for me. I hope you cover 1920-23 in an other episode soon.
Thank you, I appreciate that. We will do our best to cover the war as it develops in the coming years.
You dont learn anything in Turkey. You are in darkness basically. If any Turk tries to have a discussion with any history lover in the world it usually ends with denial.
This narrator explained it like Turks killed peaceful tourists. Such a letdown in terms of neutrality.
Not a single Turkish person is involved in the making of this video. Why am I even surprised, lol.
*Count Dooku voice*
I've been looking forward to this
Lol
"History how it truly was"... I see what you did there you Von Ranke fan :P
27:30 I wanna Pericles channel naow.
Before covid we had gone on holiday to Greece twice each year, for 6 years. All we saw from Greek people was love and respect. All the best to Greece from Turkey.
Your government doesn't look at it like this.. bullying fake news and threatens war.. Why?
@@kossllan6144 yes, there are a lot of problems between the two countries, but you don't need to see us as a bogeyman.
@@kossllan6144 You seem to have a very warped view on what is happening between these two nations.
If you keep poking someone in the eye, they will react. So the real question is why Greece feels it is in their strategic interest to poke their larger neighbor in the eye, what are they hoping to achieve aside from causing a reaction?
@@williamdavis9562 exactly that's the call bullying.. and don't look more than you are.. maybe you are Goliath but remember I am the David.??!!. so don't pock my eyes and kick my legs..
Agean sea is Greek.. if you touch Greece you will be Dust in the water. Got it?
@@williamdavis9562 Like how the Turkish air force keeps violating Greek and Cypriot territorial waters and airspace? And openly, from their own government, calling for the annexation of Greek islands to Turkey amidst all this?
Love both Turkey and Greece, peace brothers! from Russia!!
Tamam 🇹🇷🥰
@@caner2779 heyy buddy i own a greco turkish friendship discord server if you want to join send me your account
Конечно
1.
Greco-Turkish War:
The Greeks had great power fantasies after they got their country and it was also recognized by the Ottoman Empire.
They wanted to conquer Turkish territories and lost.
In the end Greece was smaller than before.
Mission failed.
2.
Then the Greeks wanted to seize all the islands off Turkey by force, including Cyprus.
Mission also failed.
3.
Now the Greeks are breaking the Treaty of Lausanne and are militarizing their islands that lie directly off the Turkish mainland waters, causing great instability again.
The Greeks really want war.
That's what they want.
They don't want peace.
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Hey guys are you planning on doing a review/deep dive into explaining the movie 1917
@Mitch Paul no he is not
we are working on a 1917 review
@Mitch Paul sorry google is not a reliable source of history
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*Greetings and Much Love From Turkey To Greece* 🇹🇷❤🇬🇷
@koksal ceylan i hope this comment is joke . Otherwise it is too sad for the earth that you still produce carbon dioxide. What a shame for Turkish Nation
koksal ceylan 😂😂😂 idiot barbarian on horseback😂😂😂
@koksal ceylan savaşı zaten onlar kaybetti :) İşin keyfini biz çıkarıyoruz bırakın dostsansınlar
Zoruna gidenin borusuna gitsin
Sonuna kadar barbariz ulan kasinanin anasini sikeriz
Same to you my friend!
And sadly enough there are still Greeks who believe in the Megali Idea and Turks who want to revive the Ottoman Empire.
Most of them are 11 years old. Because it's social media, the numbers seem a lot, but it's not. Neither the people of Greece nor the Turkish people want war and not hate each other. Such videos also serve as provocative.
@@oboi650 You'd be surprised what percentage of the population in both nations are thinking war with their neighbor is a great idea. Most nations have their fair share of idiots. Look at your youtube name for god's sake. America won't be spared this fate either.
@@williamdavis9562 what are you talking about?As long as you're hostile to us, we'll do the same.
And sadly enough there are still turks who hate greece for no reason
@@oboi650 who are yoi talking about?
*grabs popcorn*
This comment section should be interesting...
@mr_ anheuser Comes to reclaim the lands that was lost a thousand years ago.
Also says Turks commited crimes.
@@ahmetserdarunal8229 go cry somewhere else. Maybe swim over to greece for safety? Your countrys crackhead leader is going to war against the whole world
@@MrVibriocholerae is that why u guys in in debt?
@mr_ anheuser im not Turkish i just support them
@mr_ anheuser also turkeys GDP is 4x higher then greece
Honestly, as a Greek, I'd blame my fellow countrymen for managing to divide the nation even at its darkest hours. And most of all, those damn royalists who didn't see beyond their family getting settled in a ministry or something else. Venizelos, was the pioneer of modern Greece. Certainly not like what Mustafa Kemal Pasha was for the Turks; that role belongs to Alexander Ypsilantes 100 years prior. But he actually believed and worked for a modern Greece, back in the hardest times of modern history.
I'd never blame the Turks for their war of Independence, but I'd blame the Greek royalists who were unable to see the truth. If Venizelos was elected in 1919, things would be vastly different in the area and EVEN if Greece didn't manage to hold Smyrna, at least there wouldn't be so many pointless death.
I like the way how you look at the history! Respects man!
Let me guess... leftist? Leftist "Greeks" are always blaming Greeks for antihellenism in other countries. They have long long history of treason. If leftist were around during the Greek revolution they would have fought for the Ottomans.
@@mydogsbutler You see not all Greeks are haters and some have common sense unlike you.
@@mydogsbutler he condemned royalists for their policy that led to pointless deaths; You felt offended citing filthy McCarthyist propaganda of the past.
A shameful display on your behalf, of course. Nothing to surprise, since fellow of yours, royalists' correspondence of the time is filled with racist, derogatory, and felonious rhetoric towards the population that suffered... another shameful display. Also, mentioned Venizelos wasn't even a leftist, he was centrist. Get a clue of your ability to judge others.
@@Manouil_III
Did you do lots of drugs as a kid? I said nothing "racist" you slanderous troll.
Greeks suffered for centuries under Turkish occupation. As did many other peoples that were treated as second class citizen under the Ottomans. You seem to have "forgotten" that little part in your narrative you anti-hellenic leftist bigot.
The Turks fought simultaneously against the French, the Greeks, the Italians and the British.
Real talk arkadas: French, Italians and British first betrayed you and then us. The Turks fought mainly against the Greeks.
Actually we didn’t fought with British. They were scared because of Gallipoli.
Turks did not fight against the British during this conflict but nearly did as a result of the Channak Crisis. Check out the fantastic Turkish TV series "Kurtulous" about the Greco-Turkish War.
@fot geo Thank you for that. Is this Greek TV series available on DVD with English subtitles?
@@johnroche7541 British made monarchist rebellions and supplied Greeks but didn't directly fight.
Grettings from Turkey to Best Swimmers Of the Earth.
hello runner , how it goes ??? it is nice the weather in vietnam ???
Due to traditional hostilities between Greeks and Turks, this topic is a difficult one to tell. And your two advisors seem to have at least Greek roots if not citizens of Greece. Still, as a Turk I did not feel insulted and found the video objective when I watched the video. I even had the joy of learning new things.
I must make a point though. I am not a historian. I am reading and watching history as a hobby. Hence, my opinion may not be important :)
Thanks for your comment, Ahmet. Dr. Travlos is Greek but works in Turkey and, most importantly, is a professional academic. In any case, I did the research and writing, and he gave some advice only, so the responsibility for the episode is mine. I am glad that you liked it, and my efforts at providing a balanced view of the war up until February 1920 were visible!
@@jessealexander2695 I also enjoyed it. Very thorough and concise. And BALANCED!
Everyone's opinion is important ! Greetings from Greece.
The truth is both sides made mistakes against one another on that campaign.We did so many horrible things to each other, imagine what we could have achieved if united. Peace from Greece and stay away from the fanatics.
@@jessealexander2695 Dr. Travlos is a great friend of mine, we always play historical wargames and he is a great, fun guy.
Turks can be proud. They fought imperialists and proclaimed the Turkish Republic and be came really independent.
It's not imperialism when you try to free the local from the foreigners rule
@@eofter2677
Western anatolia was turkish majority. How is it freeing?
@@eofter2677 that is always the excuse, not the actual goal. Elistists don't give a nut about people mate. They use them as lubricants for their engine.
@@attalus5610 This is the excuse we are taught in Greek Schools mate. A euphemism for offensive wars. Nation States use minorities as an excuse to attack an other country. Greece did it to Turkey, Turkey did it do Cyprus etc. Kosovo is on the menu...too
The excuse is "History" and "Minorities" when the goal is always economics.
They fought imperialists after they were imperialists that lost and genocided a ton of people
It is strikingly shocking how todays Greeks do not get how todays world is shaped and claiming some lands their forefathers conquered in the antiquity and then lost to other nations a thousand years ago and never forget to mention if they are really the descendants of Hellenes indeed, it is really stupid , especially considering the small population they have , what are those people living in Greece going to do with İstanbul,İzmir or other towns of other countries, İstanbul itself has double the population of whole Greece today
Adding Greek and Turkish subtitles would be really helpful, thank you
someone has to do them.
It is really easy to attack a nation while there are 4 superpowers of the world supporting you and fighting against Turks in different fronts but losing, what a shame.
France, UK, that is two? Italy did not fight the Turks. Armenia is not a superpower? Who is the fourth super power?
@@konstantinostravlos210 Russia on the north you idiot.
@@konstantinostravlos210 We just lost 90.000 troops at Sarıkamıs becasue of 'Winter' so we quickly signed a treaty between Russia and Turkey with that we closed a front and had more power to fight with France and ''Italy''(yes italy fought with Turkey) and that traty is today's borders of Caucasia we waive some lands like Batum which is Georgia's capital now.
@@youravaragetoxicmasculinem9508 Tiblisi is Georgia's capital. According to the Turkish Army General Staff Directory of History series on the Turkish War of Independence you did not fight Italy. I will take their word over yours.
You obviously don't understand how war works
whem i asked my great grand father what happened in war he said to me : I DID THINGS THAT I AM NOT PROUD OF. WAR IS SITUATION THAT TURNS HUMAN IN WORST LIVING BEING IN UNIVERSE. When i asked if he killed a lot of turks he said me, yes. But never unarmed. But he killed a lot of turkish soldiers.
both of you learned nothing from this segment
heyy buddy i own a greco turkish friendship discord server if you want to join send me your account
my grandfather cut off 3 Greek heads in Cyprus, the skulls are still at home
Çok eksik bilgi var. Tarih tarafsızdır. Tarafsız olmalı.
Türkçe altyapı ekler misiniz?
Ataturk was a great man, he saved us from occupation and modernized our country.
The western territories except constantinople were occupied by the turks, since there had been greek majorities there.
@@Michael_the_Drunkard no.
Thanks for your effort for making a objective video. I like this video but i have to say something about city names which you used . As a Turkish person who lived in Turkey, i can say that, there is no cities as named Constatinopole and Smyrna. There are Istanbul and İzmir. This could be old names of this cities but nobody use word "New Amsterdam" to describe the New York city. Old names are in the past. We expect a little respect in that case.
I agree, but you really think this is done by accident?
🇹🇷🇹🇷 Her Türk ,Asker Doğar 🇹🇷🇹🇷
Yoo
@@Sierra0Maestra komunist burak
@@Sierra0Maestradoğru her türk asker doğar
Born a Roach you mean.
mal
Side note: We do not call the name of the war "War of Independence" but "War of Liberation". This name is also most fitting since Turkey has always been independent.
Who is you? Because Fahri Belen calls it Kuturlus Savasi, but Cevdet Kerim İncedayı calls it Istikal Harbi. Considering Incedayi wrote the first one volume military history of the war in Turkish, here is the first military historian of the war using a term you claim no one uses (by the way Incedayi actually fought in the war)
@@konstantinostravlos210 But that's the name we use today, Kurtuluş means Liberation.
@@95bekirable sure, but considering I gave them Incedayi and Belen as sources, they used the term those used (I mean they both actually fought in the war)
@@konstantinostravlos210 Which name do you think is the most fitting?
@@95bekirable for the Turkish perspective or for the whole interrelated story. For Turkish I think War of National Formation is good. It points out that the war was not just about independence, but also forming a new nation. But in general I would call all of the wars of 1919-1923 as Wars of Anatolian Succession. They were interrelated but not per se one thing (there was no coordination between the Greek, Armenian and French war efforts). In this sense it is similar to the wars that resulted form the fall of the Russian Empire. Do you treat the Polish-Soviet War as part of the Russian Civil War, or as a distinct conflict?
cete (in turkish words çete) means gang only. it was called as kuvai milliye, meaning force of nation
Bunlarin bahsettigi zeybek gruplar sanirim .
I have viewed a few of your videos and must say they are informative. But I have also come to a conclusion. In subjects regarding Turks or as of now Türkiye your jealousy, racism and hatred is depicted deliberately. For example, you begin by stating in January 1920 Constantinople INCORRECT In 1920 it was ISTANBUL. And for the past, present and the future it will be ISTANBUL. You know this to be the TRUTH Therefore I believe you deliberately create and incite hatred. Which makes you a foolish man.
🇹🇷🇹🇷 ATATÜRK 🇹🇷🇹🇷
Ataturd
I heard the turkish army will take back those island belong to Turkia.. soon
You said that İzmir (Smyrna) was majority of Greeks at that time. It is absolutely lie. It was a false report of Greece for make the invasion legal. After invasion and Greeks persecution, American Admiral Bristol did investigation around region and declared that It is a lie and invasion should be stop. You should check Admiral Bristol Report
Greeks were encouraged by United Kingdom and supported by United Kingdom financially and military during the war. United Kingdom concerned for its public reaction remembering former Dardanel war casualties. Greek troops massacred thousands of civil Turkish people in Anatolia. Greeks should always think twice when it comes to Turks and not to be toy of emperialistic desires.
Turks never would have won the war if not for the Italians leaving behind all their machinery and artillery, plus the other powers just picked up and left..... they never wanted a fight .... Greeks fought hard but were outnumbered and had no reserves in manpower or machinery. Our allies were not true allies and never have been. Turks are better allies to the Greeks than anyone else.. Believe it or not !!
@@constantinep.9357 Your allies told you they were not going to support the realization of delusional Greek Lebensraum fantasies.
Venizelos had the support of England not Greece.When he lost the elections of 1920 and German King Konstantinos came back,the allies along with Bolsheviks helped Kemal thats why Turkey won in the end.Greece made a suicide by throwing out Venizelos
@@constantinep.9357 Turkish soldiers attacked by airstrike in Syria unexpected and you proud of this? I think thats in your blood to being proud of unfair fights. Tell those thing about turkish soldiers deaths to a turkish man see what happens to your ugly face you fierce keyboard warrior.
@@mertkaplan6108 come here so I can tell it to your face !!! lets see what happens to who !!! I am here little girl !!!
I hope this video has a second part because it has litterally so little info about the Turkish War Of Independence. Video ends right around time time it starts.
Like a preamble, major injustice to the history of the conflict to omit so much.
Gerisi önümüzdeki yıl gelicek büyük ihtimale
Kutay EXACTLY
Most likely does
Izmir did not have a Greek majority before the Greek invasion. The Greek government sent refugees to settle down and make it look like there was a Greek majority. Also in the first day of the invasion of Izmir at least 2.000 Turkish civilians were slaughtered to make it look like there was a Greek majority. Still there was Turkish Majority. These are documented, if you look it up before you comment anything, I would be happy.
I googled it and it says greeks were twice the number of turks.Did you look it up before commenting?
@@ziovanni77 You see, the Greek historians claim that there was a Greek majority, the Turkish well, a Turkish one. It is also WAY too absurd for there to be a Greek majority 2 times than the Turkish, since İzmir was Turkish land. And i would also like to let you know that the Greek government sent Christian refugees to İzmir to make it seem like a Greek majority. And the Greek high command also ordered killings of Muslim civilians to support their claim. Now, the reason this topic is still being brought up even today is that by that time it was useful for allies to make it look like a rightful war. So this Greek majority lie was known and accepted by the majority of countries. I am not an Anti Greek or any sort of racist but the facts are there and you cannot simply find them by "googling" it. There many layers of misinformation that leads to it. So Please make a deeper research if you truly want to understand it.
@@thehouse9192 ok,but what you are saying sounds like you are just repeating what the Turkish side is claiming! Shouldn't you follow your own advice and not trust either side but try to gather information and put it to scrutiny? For instance how did the greek government brought people in Izmir,are there photos or reports of that? Where did these people live,the conflicting Greek government wouldn't be able to built for them surely. Did they just stay in the streets? And which of the two is it,did the Greeks bring people and make them a majority or was it they were lying about the population there? Also you suggest to look it up, where?Do you have reliable sources that make your case except what the Turkish government claims? It was not a Turkish city it was an ottoman one,an empire that had many different ethnicities in it.Or do you claim that all cities in ottoman empire were Turkish majority? Smyrna was a Greek city before the ottomans just like many others that kept their Greek majority. So Smyrna being turkish argument doesnt fly,it became turkish just after these events. See,I tried to use reasoning and what I can find in the internet to draw a conclusion. Can you do the same?
@@ziovanni77 You are right my friend. Honestly i have been repeating what has been thought to me. I havent done deep research either. But i thought that with enough effort you could find it. It was foolish of me not to give you any sources. I have an exam coming up even in these quarantined times, so i cant really suggest you anything. I am deeply sorry.
@@ziovanni77 Dude just think logically, it is more then 400years land of the Turks. How in the world is it possible that there are more Greeks??
No one askes this question; why did Turks furiously react to Greek occupation? Because upto that moment English had occupied the capital, Italians entered to south, French too… no major objection had arisen.The reason is; Turks knew what atrocities Greeks had done during Balkan War and more than 2 million Turks were deported by either Greeks or Bulgars from Balkans to western Anatolia. They knew same extermination would happen after the first Greek soldier landed to Smyrna.
Since early 1914 the Turks started the genocide of about 2 million Greeks which lived in Thrace and Anatolia. Greece asked to exchange populations - Turks for Greeks, to stop genocide. But Neo-Turkish government of the Ottoman empire denied it. They was saying, that no killings was committed on Greeks, which was a lie. They said, that if Greeks wanted the exchange of population, though, then they have to give Turkey the islands of Lemnos and Lesbos (Midile). Greece did not agree. So, the genocide of Greeks continued till 1923, when the Lausanne peace was signed. Finally, about 1,4 mln of Greeks came from Turkey to Greece, and up to 300 thousand to Russia and western countries. The rest of then, something like 300 thousand people, are lost. Most of them killed by turks. It means that Turks killed in 1914 - 1923 about 15 % of the Greek-Orthodox population of Turkey (Anatolia and Turkish Thrace).
@@nadiapapadopoulo471 wow 2 million Greeks started to be massacred from 1914 on which is 15% of Greek population. 2/0.15 = 13.3 million Greek lived in Ottoman empire where the 1914 census is 18.5 million. More than today’s greek population where in population exchange 1 million Greek were sent to Greece. I am not gonna argue anything with a Turkish or Greek nationalist who has no clue about what he/she is talking about. May the peace with you…
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Ha ha ha... be careful mongol while loading your empire don't crash the internet....
@sülüman At the Ottoman Empire your ancestors were peasants too. The only difference is that you mongols remain peasants until today. That's why you don't belong and you will never belong in Europe.
When Ataturk arrived and all Greek forces starded escaping to agean sea and their people get cleaned from turkish land by great leader Ataturk
Kemal had major help from Britain to success!!!
@@iwannalavassa5501 What is your source Britons never helped Turks even Britons produced tanks and airplanes for greeks. Mainly russians gave support to turks in war
it is not constantinople it is İstanbul
I hope, in comment section there will not be idiotic comments from Turkish and Greek patriotic people.
You can not patriotism as a bad thing you should avoid anything idiotic
Would be nice- to learn from history, so that we can praise what's worthy and not repeat what's wrong.
Greets from Bulgaria!
Although I’m Greek both sides are people at the end of the day under different flags
@Nathan Santoro turkish greek union? WTF?
Akın Özer
Could this be why my grandparents came over to America?
btw Turkey got ıts first tank a FT-17 captured from France during southern anatolia battles.
Oh hi, im living in Smyrna (İzmir)
@@ataturkcumapper5242 helloooo
İzmir(smyrna)*
Also the name of the war is totally wrong. We, as Turks, did not fight for our independence. We fought for our liberation. Our country was not neither colonized nor annexed. When it comes to this topic, there is a big misunderstanding from the side of western sources.
Cheers.
independance from Greeks, liberation from Turks
I must correct a huge error: Mustafa Kemal was sent to Samsun by the Sultan ( Vanidettin) with the order of the British authorities to control some unruly residents of the region who were giving “hard time”to the Christians. So he went to Samsun to control the area. Neither the Sultan nor the occupiers were aware of his real intentions. You gave the impression that he was openly organizing resistence.
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M, Kemal went to meet Russian Generals to have weapons agreement from Russian Government ..That is how ,he won the war.. Russians wanted exchange of guns deal. They wanted , Turks to be in their side as communist regime. And M.Kemal said ..One thing at at a time,, Will talk later said.. and story goes on.,,
What kind of History channel is this? City names called Constantinapol or Symrna are historical names. The names of these cities are Istanbul and Izmir. After all, you could write the names of Ankara and Bursa differently. But you didn't write. You are not neutral. What a shame.
The name Istanbul and smyrna only became offical at least to the rest of the world in like 1923
My great grandfather ,Pete Christophus, came here to America in the early 1920s as a stowaway on a trade ship. I didn't know about this history until today. I now understand what he was going through.
watch the film America America by Elia Kazan
Bu savaş bizim kaderimizi yazan bir savaştır. çok acılar çektik çok fedakarlık yaptık keşke barış içinde yaşayabilseydik ama olmadı. bu meşru müdafaa etmektir
@Talûn-karkû The Warchief you did not have to write this.This video is about greco-Turkish war so he can write anythin in Turkish It is not your businnes
Talûn-karkû The Warchief but at the moment you are :)
Greece was too greedy... Just like us - Bulgaria during the balkan wars.......... And Serbia after the collapse of Yugoslavia.... Same mistake again and again........ Only the romanians were smart enough to hold larger territory.
A century up ahead, we come again to that the Greeks being heavily equipped and armored by US Army this time- previously a century ago by British - and american military presence in various Greece territory including land border Dedeağaç (Alexandroupol) and already Greek occupying Turkish islands by grace of Mr. Erdoğan's silence for two decades, i hope they won't attack in the name of USA this time. The result will be same under same circonstances. Greece is indeed under US occupation but when it will be revealed noone knows.
Which "Turkish" islands do the Greeks occupy;
@@nabevks those which were not namely and precisely indicated to be under rule of Greece by internstional treaties since Republic of Turkey is sucessor state.
Τhe map presented at 8.36 is wrong for at least two reasons... For one, Crete (the big island on the lower part of the map) had become a de facto state (called Kritiki Politia) in 1898 and remained so until its defacto union with Greece in 1908 or de jure union in 1913. The Ottoman Empire accepted its annexation to Greece with the Treaty of Athens (1/14 Novmber 1913), and therefore its status was not to be (re)negotiated during or after WWI.
Secondly, the islands Greece claimed during the Peace Conference in Paris were only the Dodecanese (which the Italians occupied since May 1912), as the rest had been liberated by the Greek navy in late 1912 (during the Balkan Wars) and had been aknowledged as Greek by the Powers in February 1913, under the precondition that Greece evacuated Northern Epirus /Southern Albania. Please be more careful when depicting and colouring disputed areas, as some might think that Greece was claiming more than she had right to or had been promised. (The bargaining that preceded her entry to the war is also interesting, although - I understand - a bit lengthy and complicated to include in such a video).
As a Turk, shout out to the Italians for disagreeing with the allies😁
Only because they wanted the entire area for themselves
@@dimitris1988kom not like they had any chance to survive in Anatolia for long either
@@dimitris1988kom not like they had any chance to survive in Anatolia for long either
One of these sad conflicts were I find it hard to have sympathy far any side...
I'm just here for the comments.
You are not that brave
Kai ego
Όλοι μας...
Well, as expected they're the worst
Kosovo je sebya.
Oops sory wrong video.
(ref:Wilson) Kemal understood the West, it was all about military might.
@Stephen Jenkins Hence Westerners had the most advanced military, he was true.
@Archelaos Archon "Eevryone was aidinh Kemal" no. All the winners of the ww1 except Russia were supporting Greece and Ottoman dynasty who was an eneny of Kemal. Greeks were better equipped and had better weapons. No need to find execuses. Turkey had been founded from the ashes of an declined empire.
“Savunma hattı yoktur, savunma sathı vardır. O satıh bütün vatandır. Vatanın her karış toprağı vatandaşın kanıyla ıslanmadıkça terk olunamaz.”
-Mustafa Kemal ATATÜRK
Rakı içerken güzel söz
@@karamigferankaranın eteklerinde o emir ile yapilan savunma ile ananın namusu kurtulmuş diyeceğimde seninki pek kurtulamamiş gibi cahil oe seni
As a Turkish i dont want to see greeks and turks fight in comments come on we were great friends before we could be again
Same.
pay our debt and we ll be friends again
@Talûn-karkû The Warchief you need a lot of history lessons m8. until the empire grew weak at its last stages, this corner of eurasia used to be the civilized one, where people of many different religions (at least three come to mind) could make a society function properly. In case you haven't noticed, not all Turks are of Mongolian descent, many decided to adopt a turkish identity so that they would not have to become refugees in a nationalistic Greece, who would not tolerate Muslim Greeks (still does not). We share eating and drinking habits, work ethos and ethics. We even prefer the same sports. And, at the time, we used to speak each other's language. Children at the villages used to grow up together.
So, I think you got the answer you were seeking.
@@ΒασίλειοςΜαυρομμάτης-π2ψ Well said. Turks from Turkey today have as much in common with Greeks as we do with Eurasian Turkic nations.
Sure we can, give eastern thrace to greece (which was never reconquered, only ceded) and she will be best friends with turkey.
Long Live Mustafa Kemal Pasha Long Live!🇹🇷
long live? he dead
@@jarc-eg1ev I sang a section from the Izmir march
Shut up
@@jarc-eg1ev it means "you live in our hearts"
You said that İzmir (Smyrna) was majority of Greeks at that time. It is absolutely lie. It was a false report of Greece for make the invasion legal. After invasion and Greeks persecution, American Admiral Bristol did investigation around region and declared that It is a lie and invasion should be stop. You should check Admiral Bristol Report
Greeks and Turks are brothers except radical nationalist ones. 🇹🇷 🇬🇷
Sergios Alexandridis that’s the point of “History” learn from the past to build a better future. Like how Germany did with their new European friends
@@berk_pulluoglu273 heyy buddy i own a greco turkish friendship discord server if you want to join send me your account
What I’m hearing is that the Allies loved the Greek PM because they loved the Percy Jackson books. That’s like if the allies gave Hirohito a pass simply because they thought Tokugawa was pretty lit.
They had probably all studied Classics at University @_@
As a Greek I will clear why Allies liked Greek PM (Eleftherios Venizelos). In WW1 Greece was divided between the King (who was in German's side) and the Greek PM (who was in Allies side). Furthermore, Greek King gave up and Greek PM joined Entente in WW1. After WW1, in 1919 Greece helped in thd invasion of Crimea to topple USSR. This is why Entente and Venizelos had so positive relationship. I hope I helped :)
Ο Ταδε It did help, actually. Thanks.
@@thevoidlookspretty7079 your welcome
Greek soldiers came my village(Manisa/Çoruk) in 1920. They looked all houses and found 6 young Turkish men. Then they killed all of them. The young men are not soldier. I hope, it will not again anywhere any person.
Did they summon the devil too
Maybe, rape of cretan girls under the Turkish occupation?
Turkish did the same from 1908 to the greek villages
@@iwannalavassa5501 Greece started the war.
@@enesbinay8277 I'm talking from the beginning not from the moment that Greeks came to the Smyrna...
You should also add Fraco-Turkish British-Turkish(Izmit, Mudanya, Derbent) Georgian-Turkish American bombardment of Samsun during Turkish independence war.
If I was Greek I too would find it hard to swallow that you have been expelled from territories that were your home for hundreds of years (almost millenia) before Turkish tribes came into the picture. Justice is meaningless unless you can enforce it. Many others in the world have suffered tsimilar fate and are now urged to swallow the pill in the name of the new realities of globalism. Color me unconvinced.
Change Obligatoire / fr, Mandatory Change ...It was with the insistence and pressure of Llyod George, Lord Curzon and Venizalos.The Turks didn't want it.Learn history
@Erencan Ayhan like our nationalists are different! those morons still dreaming about reconquering ottoman regions.
More like 3000 years of continuous existence in Anatolia, even Athens was a colony of Ionian Miletus.
@Erencan Ayhan we don't need their help every time we fought alone and almost every time we succeed
@@yakupkeser248 Well, the Turcs destroyed the Byzantine Empire because of greed. It was the cradle of western civilization. You mess with it, but your can't escape the effects. Culturally , all Europeans are half Greek, so to speak. Wether you are Spanish, Greek, Hungarian, Danish or Italian. There is no way you can go back to erase that. You picked a difficult enemy and the consequences are never going to leave you. It will remain part of your heritage.
Turk here... I miss the Fez. I don't want to wear it now I will look weird. I need more people to put it on.
Great documentary..a couple of things not highlighted...1500,000 Christian Armenias , 350,000 Greeks & another 300,000 christians were Genocided by the Turks so Asia minor might be free of any Minorities, hence today's Turkey is 98 % Muslim.The Kurds were promised independence/ Autonomy by the Turks after the war which was never implemented, hence PKK.Russia supported the Turkish effort by guns etc as it did not want the dardenels straights to fall to the west.....End of the war brought population exchange between Greece & Turkey so no minorities Greek or Turkish existed in either country...Asia minor was never Turkish, minorities lived three for milinium before the Turkish tribes moved in...
@Arda 3. You are wrong. See Onur Yildirim "Diplomacy and Displacement" www.crcpress.com/Diplomacy-and-Displacement-Reconsidering-the-Turco-Greek-Exchange-of-Populations/Yildirim/p/book/9780415649070
@Arda Absolute nonsense
Don’t mind me I’m just a Canadian passing through the comment section
No one cares
Canucks should be glad that after the legendary performance their armies put on in the Western Front they could return over the Atlantic and live far away from the repercussions.
@flare 156 Canadians are blood warriors go study your history.
Felipe Duda what? Really?
1821: Greece: *INDEPENDENCE!*
1921: Turks: *INDEPENDENCE!*
2021: ??????
War!
cyprus
crete
Very interesting theme. I think, there must be more videos about middle East.
we are working on more as we speak.
Oh boy, be careful about calling Turkey middle East I tell you.
@@ahmetserdarunal8229 Sorry about that. By the Middle East, I basically meant all the hostilities that took place on the Ottoman front.
@@ahmetserdarunal8229 turkey is not in middle east and also not in europe. Turkey is a country that exists by mistake.
@@poziloyxoichik3041 I am totally ok with that but I know there are a lot of Turks who hate it. So I just wanted to warn you :)
At 8:10 the quote uses the word "insupportable". This is a very common word in French and probably betrays the fact that the original quote was in French, a language widely used in diplomacy at that time. Although the word exists in English; the French "insupportable" would be more commonly translated into English as "intolerable".
It's this region that most clearly defies the traditional notion that world war one was fought 1914-1918. If you were an Ottoman subject of fighting age, you would have been at war almost continuously from 1911 to 1923. 12 years as opposed to four. Balkan troops faced a similar situation, with Greece going to war in 1912, 1913 and again in 1916/17 (depends whether you count the quasi-civil war between supporters of king Constantine and Venizelos). Imagine being at war for 12 years. How does one come back to a peaceful life after that?
For us Turks it was a longer war of almost 50 years of no peace !! (Starting w. Turkish-Russian war, uprisings in Balkans, Balkan War, WW1 and the final war w. Greece and other Occupants of Anatolia until 1922.
Actually it was worse than that since the wars in Balkans have started from Balkan Wars (1912-1913), if you also count the battles between mostly Bulgarian and Greek troops and in lesser degree Ottoman troops in Macedonia which ended in 1908 then they fought for even longer, and for the Greeks and Turks didn't end until the 1923 peace treaty.
15:25 "Ottoman general Mustaf Kemal" (Ataturk)
He had actually resigned his commission. (He had been outlawed by the Sultan)
It was a brave move, and he wondered whether the troops would continue to obey him in civilian clothes.
1920
16 march occupation of Constantinople by allies
11 may Kemal condemned to death by sultan's government
22 June Greek army advances into Anatolia
1921
6-10 Jan Greek advance checked at battle of Ionunu
P.S. this is not a criticism, just additional info.
This series is a fantastic overview of the Great War
Britain, France, Italy and Greece: We want Turkish land!
Atatürk: Think again
Add Armenia as well.
Well, they did get a lot of land, look at all the islands in Greece, and all the gains that happened in the Middle East by the British and French. The Turks lost half their land and lost some of the richest lands in Europe, the Cyclades. The average income there is over 90,000 euros.
@@-.-..._...-.- yeah greece didnt get the islands ally countries gave the islands to the greece instead of giving to the italians
@@ahmetdagl473 Maybe they gave them to Greece because Greeks were living there, just saying...
MUSTAFA KEMAL ATATÜRK 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
Ataturk entered the game
Greece left the game.
Fortunately for you, the Greek royalists ''helped'' him a lot...
HAHAHAHAHAHXJDKDJDKSOSKSM LOL
@@CaptainHarlock-kv4zt lol joke of the whole age
so much propaganda in this, give it a break you guys. This constant anti-Turk anti Muslim narrative from you guys is sickening.
Such an amazing video thanks for that, but you should make a second part because there were too much more details about the battles between greek and turkish forces. I'm living in smyrine as a turk, visit greece often we are more or less same people and we like eachothers except some radicals on both sides. I'm living near a catholich greek church and I wish there are more greeks in my city because smyrina belongs them as much as she belongs to us.
eğer imir yunanistanın olsaydı izmir asla şu anki gibi gelişmiş bir şehir olmazdı
A really beautiful comment, thanks for posting.
The channel will keep talking about the conflict all the way to 2022.
heyy buddy i own a greco turkish friendship discord server if you want to join send me your account
Ne saçmalıyorsun yav. Demek ki İzmir e sonradan geldin. Bende çok yunan gömmüş mavzer miras kaldı. Bu miras kalırken çok insanımızı şehit verdik ama çok hainide gömmüş dedeler. Eğer zayıflarsan yunan seni katletmeye gelir , güçlüysen barış devam eder. Zaten doğa işi zamana yaymış yunan 50 sene sonra nüfus artışı durup yokolacak.😂😂😂. Bizim yapmadığımızı doğa yapacak.
Respect to all that give the blood in the battlefield.Greece pays the games of the allies and that they were divided in the end
ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ ΚΟΥΡΤΗΣ Greece tried its best to claim their millenium old territories. But they lost eventually. Respect to all who died in greco turkish war. Love from turkey komşu 🇹🇷 🇬🇷
gokcan cakmak komsu means;;
gokcan cakmak if i were Greek prime minister i would not go so far i will kept the zone of smirna built a wall waiting for the referendum and taking smyrna thats all.
Enes Beyaz what are you talking about;;the wall in evros river;?
@@gokcancakmak4894 heyy buddy i own a greco turkish friendship discord server if you want to join send me your account