Forgotten Prelude To WW1 - Italo-Turkish War 1911-1912 (History Documentary)

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    The Italo-Turkish War 1911 was one of the last classic imperial wars over colonial processions between two great powers. But it was in many ways also a first glimpse into what would come during the First World War: trenches, artillery, combat aircraft, motorboat attacks. This war in Ottoman Libya was fought between the Italian Army and Ottoman-led local Senussi forces.
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    Presented by: Jesse Alexander
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  • @savasgenc1877
    @savasgenc1877 2 года назад +1531

    I'm a Turkish citizen and let me share that this war very important in Turkish history and lectured to all students from middle school to the high schools due to several reasons. First, it's very important for us as modern day Libya was the last possession of Ottoman Empire in the North Africa at that time. This war also made us witness to see the rise of two major historical figures in the battlefield. First and foremost, it was the first active military operation of founder of modern Turkey, Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, and Enver Pasha, the de facto ruler of Ottoman Empire a couple of years later at the WW1. This war was the first of a serial of wars which totally ended Ottoman Empire. Trablusgarp War as we call it (1911), Both Balkan Wars (1912-1913), WWI (1914-1918), and Indepence War (1919-1922). Fun fact I was helping my 13 year old daughter to study this war for her homework last week :)

    • @datboi7893
      @datboi7893 2 года назад +128

      The sad reality is Enver was totally worthless and did everything wrong.

    • @qernanded8161
      @qernanded8161 2 года назад +37

      Talat was more powerful than Enver, not only did he become Grand Vizier but he ran the CUP

    • @kaykhosrow3263
      @kaykhosrow3263 2 года назад +4

      This is interesting, such the fate of last caliphate of Arabs...

    • @Roland.Deschain
      @Roland.Deschain 2 года назад +8

      @@kaykhosrow3263 What?

    • @Aufenthalt
      @Aufenthalt 2 года назад +88

      Unfortunately in Italy we barely dedicate 2 Minuten.
      start of the Lessons:
      we Went to libya and occupy it
      End of Lessons
      I must say I consider this imperialistic adventure of Italy with despise as every imperialistic adventure. Many italians also saw this conflict as unuseful pain and they felt nothing heroic about.

  • @samy7013
    @samy7013 2 года назад +313

    Growing up, one of my classmates was a Libyan girl whose great-grandfather was a Libyan artilleryman in the Ottoman Army, who then joined the Libyan guerrillas after his artillery unit was disbanded, and who fought with them until the very end of the guerrilla campaign in 1931. He was one of the lucky ones to survive, despite being wounded multiple times.

    • @tusaadrian7422
      @tusaadrian7422 2 года назад

      Did he mutilate and torture Italians, who already surrendered, as well?

    • @samy7013
      @samy7013 2 года назад +27

      ​@spindletea : Yes. Her family was well acquainted with the service of her great-grandfather, who was essentially their family patriarch. Even their family surname had changed during the years of the guerrilla campaign, as her great-grandfather earned a sobriquet associated with his artillery service. Because his guerrilla comrades so regularly referred to him by this particular sobriquet rather than by his original surname, this was eventually adopted by her great-grandfather (and by his descendants) as their new family name (although of course the family never forgot their original surname, they simply stopped using the old one).

    • @frankali5203
      @frankali5203 Год назад +11

      a true hero 👍

    • @John-pk9rw
      @John-pk9rw Год назад +1

      I mean you can’t blame someone who thinks Libyans are Arabs

    • @saqlainalvi3333
      @saqlainalvi3333 Год назад +2

      Awesome guy

  • @JasonSputnik
    @JasonSputnik 2 года назад +1427

    As an Italian, thanks for covering this war in details. Even in Italy this conflict is barely mentioned and I didn't know much about it except the final outcome... No wonders now that I know what happened...

    • @kapudanuderya
      @kapudanuderya 2 года назад +105

      Because in military terms it was a shame for Italy.

    • @alviseossena3238
      @alviseossena3238 2 года назад +200

      Italy won but ok

    • @kapudanuderya
      @kapudanuderya 2 года назад +115

      @@alviseossena3238 Italy didn't win in Libya. They forced the Turkish government to secede it by invading Dodecanese.

    • @dayros2023
      @dayros2023 2 года назад +235

      Italy won and conquered Libya,Rhodes and the dodecanese. Learn a bit of history.

    • @dayros2023
      @dayros2023 2 года назад +112

      Actually the war was well discussed as part of the scramble for africa and as a prelude of the balkans war that almost disintegrated the Ottoman empire, as the Italians showed that the empire was weak and couldn’t properly defend its territory. The war was also a clear Italian victory.

  • @Oxide_does_his_best
    @Oxide_does_his_best 2 года назад +1204

    The persistence of this channel and the steady improvement after the drop off of the end of the actual Great War shows. Great job guys!

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  2 года назад +66

      thanks!

    • @tannerdenny5430
      @tannerdenny5430 2 года назад +1

      it's cause we all already know of The Somme and Gallipoli. I want that nitty-gritty.

    • @chpet1655
      @chpet1655 2 года назад +2

      I agree that they came back to touch on this very important conflict speaks to their dedication.
      Speaking of the Italo-Ottoman war I always felt Italy did themselves a huge disservice by being aggressive with The Turks when they should have stuck with their partners in Europe and gone after French Colonies in North Africa after defeating the French with the Germans in 1914. Had Italy joined then there would have been no WW1 just another Continental war. Probably no Russian Revolution as the Germans would have dealt with the Russians after beating the French and the Czar would never have had to put his country under 3 years of warfare it would have been over in 2 tops.

    • @John-pk9rw
      @John-pk9rw Год назад +3

      I mean you can’t blame someone who thinks Libyans are Arabs

    • @ssww3
      @ssww3 Год назад +2

      @@TheGreatWar love you guys xoxo

  • @meijiturtle3814
    @meijiturtle3814 2 года назад +469

    A prime problem for the Ottomans was Britain's refusal to allow Ottoman reinforcements to transit Egyptian territory despite the fact that Egypt was nominally an Ottoman province under Britain's protection.

    • @kasadam85
      @kasadam85 2 года назад +6

      Exactly

    • @weylandyutani9622
      @weylandyutani9622 2 года назад +140

      Brits have a reputation for being duplicitous

    • @davidd.c.9344
      @davidd.c.9344 2 года назад +44

      @@weylandyutani9622 Much like dealing with the French when it comes to their intrusive, self serving politics in Africa.

    • @johncorrall1739
      @johncorrall1739 2 года назад +96

      @@weylandyutani9622
      Countries don’t have friends,only interests.

    • @ricardobimblesticks1489
      @ricardobimblesticks1489 2 года назад +38

      @@weylandyutani9622 Can you name a major nation that isn't duplicitous?

  • @_ArsNova
    @_ArsNova 2 года назад +707

    Love these longer specials about the more obscure peripheral conflicts before and after The Great War. They provide lots of vital context for the war and are fascinating to learn about. Great work as always Jesse and team. This might be heresy to say on this channel, but I actually prefer Jesse's straightforward and direct style of narration.

    • @manufer2
      @manufer2 2 года назад +6

      But would they then have joined the central powers in WWI?
      Be careful when using "if" 😉

    • @electronparadox6630
      @electronparadox6630 2 года назад +8

      Agree about Jesse too

    • @victortisme
      @victortisme 2 года назад +9

      The former narrator made it harder to focus on the substance for the sake of some "epic" style. I dropped the original series because of this. The switch to Jesse made things substancially better from day 1 in my opinion. Most of all because a feeling of romanticisation is not in the best of taste for such topics.

    • @Ezekiel903
      @Ezekiel903 2 года назад +5

      they should stop to use always British sources!!! this brings a only British view of the whole scenario, the same in the Turkish - Greco war video war

    • @JohnDoe-yq9ml
      @JohnDoe-yq9ml 2 года назад

      Well said.

  • @giorgiociaravolol1998
    @giorgiociaravolol1998 2 года назад +721

    My grand grandpa fought in this war, on the italian side. Some of the pictures I have from him are absolutely horrible, especially the ones with the Lybian civilians...but history is history and should be teached without filters and favoritisms towards one side or another. Grazie mille!

    • @mlccrl
      @mlccrl 2 года назад +130

      My grandfather too was a soldier in Libian war. He was a NCO Sardegna grenadier. One beatiful day his platoon was ordered to search a group of bersaglieri which had been sent to scout the ground and never came back. My grandfather's platoon found them all slaughtered in an ambush. Their bodies had been cut in pieces probably still alive by the arabians. So once back at the military camp he purchased a small revolver to take always with him in order to kill himself if in dire straights.

    • @awfan221
      @awfan221 2 года назад +6

      Did he fight in the battle of Adwa in Ethiopia?

    • @giorgiociaravolol1998
      @giorgiociaravolol1998 2 года назад +25

      @@awfan221 no, I think he never went to Ethiopia.

    • @historyofitaly4364
      @historyofitaly4364 2 года назад +33

      @@awfan221 you were in superiority in Ethiopia with russian and french support of guns. Not tell again Adwa there is 1936

    • @orionxtc1119
      @orionxtc1119 2 года назад +16

      Turks are so prideful of all their military wins...

  • @acosorimaxconto5610
    @acosorimaxconto5610 2 года назад +314

    Great presentation Jesse and team. These wars that fed and followed WW1 are fascinating, showing how much WW1 was a continuation of events earlier than 1914 -- and continued beyond 1918

    • @jliller
      @jliller 2 года назад +8

      "History doesn't happen in vacuum."
      -Indy Neidell (and others)

    • @desert_jin6281
      @desert_jin6281 2 года назад +3

      Seconded, great job, thank you all for shedding light on the forgotten parts of public education !

  • @cagriozkan1936
    @cagriozkan1936 2 года назад +378

    After peace treaty Ottoman soldiers/officers had no way to coming back. So they kept fighting. There are lots officers' letters to home. And we know for sure ottoman officers' contunied to guerilla warfare more than a dacade. Last officer's letter contunied to came 27 years after the beginning of war(or after the peace treaty i dont remember which one). Rest in peace forgotten souls.

    • @mertroll1
      @mertroll1 2 года назад +16

      Where can I read up on that ? Thats sounds really interesting!

    • @blazodeolireta
      @blazodeolireta 2 года назад +4

      @@mertroll1 search the "Senussi campaign" for starters.

    • @gigachad5599
      @gigachad5599 2 года назад +13

      cope+seethe cockroach, Lepanto gang rules

    • @abcd9283
      @abcd9283 2 года назад +3

      Can you give me a link to read those letters.

    • @bilalbalci9862
      @bilalbalci9862 2 года назад +6

      Aga ne anlatiyo tam olarak ingilizcem yok dikatimi cekti

  • @woden22
    @woden22 2 года назад +74

    Fantastic documentary. Oddly, one of the great accounts of this largely-forgotten war, was by the Italian Futurist poet, Marinetti, whose avant-garde poem, Zang Tung Tumb, which contains a piece called "The Siege of Adrionople", and was among the first literary works to experiment widely with syntax, typography and imagery. I highly recommend it for anyone wanting to learn more about this particular moment in history.

    • @diegopettini6101
      @diegopettini6101 Год назад +4

      Ogni cinque secondi, cannoni d'assedio sventrare spazio, con un accordo

  • @CDSAfghan
    @CDSAfghan 2 года назад +197

    Using Cesar as a contemporary source is the most Italian thing ever.

    • @jliller
      @jliller 2 года назад +29

      Benito Mussolini seen furiously taking notes.

    • @giulianoilfilosofo7927
      @giulianoilfilosofo7927 2 года назад +38

      We have more than 2 millenia of history, for us the notion of historical continuity is normal, for younger civilizations This may sound strange but not for us.

    • @CDSAfghan
      @CDSAfghan 2 года назад +13

      @Giuliano il Filosofo Italy is 160yrs old, "historical continuity" 😂 you guys always with the jokes

    • @giulianoilfilosofo7927
      @giulianoilfilosofo7927 2 года назад +62

      @@CDSAfghan Italy is not 160 years old, Italy is a civilization, not a nation, like Germany and Japan. Their history trascends the notion of Nation in the post Revolutionary sense.

    • @giulianoilfilosofo7927
      @giulianoilfilosofo7927 2 года назад +18

      @@CDSAfghan I repeat the concept, Probably your limited intellectual capabilities prevent you from understanding it so you have to resort to emoticons and crying faces to make a point. ITALY IS A CIVILIZATION. CIVILIZATION differs from NATION. This same definition applies to other countries which eventually had to give themselves the structure of a Nation state. The concept of Italia is as old as the Etruscans and the First greek colonies, and a political unification already existed under the Ostrogoths, the Holy Roman Empire, without counting Dante,Guicciardini, Machiavelli and their writings, including the last Chapter of the Prince. The only Countries Which had a similar historical experience are Germany and Japan, in fact they both achieved Nation State Form in the late 19th century. So your argument is invalid, and based on pure ignorance.

  • @davecompton5847
    @davecompton5847 2 года назад +163

    My grandmother's father was from Italy and fought in the 8th Reggimento Bersaglieri which among others seized Derna at the very beginning of the Campaign. Six years later he was with the AEF to fight the Germans in the Argonnes! very lucky class! interesting video thanks for posting. Cheers from Virginia.

    • @siciliaussieguy
      @siciliaussieguy Год назад +5

      My great grandfather fought into this war and for the bersaglieri in ww1

    • @giansala7409
      @giansala7409 Год назад +1

      Ciao da Italia !

    • @fabriziocoppola6519
      @fabriziocoppola6519 10 месяцев назад +1

      My grandfather was a Bersagliere too!

  • @ViralKinesis
    @ViralKinesis 2 года назад +142

    Aw yeah! Glory And Defeat got me extremely excited for pre-WW1 content. Keep up the excellent work!

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  2 года назад +42

      Great, there is more pre-WW1 to come in 2022. Next up in January: Russo-Japanese War. But of course we will also cover more 1922 events as well. In February, we will revisit the Russian Civil War.

    • @flyingcow4194
      @flyingcow4194 2 года назад +10

      The Great War will you cover the Egyptian revolution of 1919 and the 1922 unilateral declaration of Egyptian “independence” by the British in 1922?

    • @ViralKinesis
      @ViralKinesis 2 года назад +3

      @@TheGreatWar My heart began pounding with excitement for the Russian events you mentioned. I look forward to it!

    • @Ezekiel903
      @Ezekiel903 2 года назад +2

      @@TheGreatWar i would like to see more about the British defeat, because when it comes to British you tells some glorious storys, even the humiliating retreat from Dünnkirchen you turned it in a big successfully retreat!!! you need a more objective view, not mentioning always British sources, even during the Greco-Turkish wars you mentioned always British sources, would be great to hear Turkish, Greeks sources, or German and others!

    • @JohnFlower-NZ
      @JohnFlower-NZ Год назад

      Yet here we are, typing in English. Those who win write history.
      I agree that it'd be interesting to hear more quotes from a variety of sources.

  • @Baengert
    @Baengert 2 года назад +21

    I wasn't sure if I liked your story-driven narrations of the wars, but it turns out you're my favorite history channel now. Really appreciate the quality content with the deep understanding! Keep it on!

  • @thenoobgameplays
    @thenoobgameplays 2 года назад +166

    If the Spanish Civil War was a trial for the Second World War, the Italo-Turkish War and the Balkan Wars of 1912-14 could be interpreted as a trial for the Great War?

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  2 года назад +82

      sure, there is also an academic push to regard the period 1911-1923 as The Greater War.

    • @thenoobgameplays
      @thenoobgameplays 2 года назад +5

      @@TheGreatWar thanks. Never heard of that designation/term before.

    • @thenoobgameplays
      @thenoobgameplays 2 года назад +17

      @@TheGreatWar btw, there's the term of th period of 1914-45 as a Secord Thirty Years War. Do you guys think that is right?

    • @captainbackflash
      @captainbackflash 2 года назад +8

      @@thenoobgameplays I just wanted to mention that!

    • @mikepette4422
      @mikepette4422 2 года назад +2

      and the Balkan Wars too !

  • @ramazanhzal1391
    @ramazanhzal1391 2 года назад +67

    As far as i know from my highschool classes, ottoman send only the officers to Libya in order to reorganise locals against Italy. They couldn't send troops because of no land connection. There were small divisions but not enough for war. Yet salute to all nameless souls.

    • @indefiniteabyss1257
      @indefiniteabyss1257 Год назад +2

      Didnt they have ships? Sounds like losers excuse

    • @batuhankara672
      @batuhankara672 Год назад +5

      @@indefiniteabyss1257 the italians and greeks captured the islands and the ottoman navy was burned by the russians

    • @batuhankara672
      @batuhankara672 Год назад +12

      What can be the excuse, you are fighting 10 different nations in just 10 years

    • @nedimdegirmenci6
      @nedimdegirmenci6 Год назад +4

      We didn't have powerful warships. It was not possible to send troops without protection of warships when Italian Navy was blockaging shores. There were only 5000 Turkish soldiers in Libya.

  • @joshuawatkins4487
    @joshuawatkins4487 2 года назад +31

    My Great-Great Grandfather fought in this war on the Italian side in the 86 Reggimento Fanteria. We still have postcards that he wrote back home. Several years later, he would be called to serve again in WW1.

  • @ELVIS1975T
    @ELVIS1975T Год назад +41

    I'm a Turkish citizen and this war has always been a part of our curriculums from primary to high school but it's usually given about half a page. I've never seen so much detail before in any school books or documentaries. Thank you for enlightening.

    • @burak4254
      @burak4254 Год назад +3

      olmaz mı ya..çok detaylı anlatılmıştır bir çok kitapta,senin eksiğin olmuş

    • @ELVIS1975T
      @ELVIS1975T Год назад +4

      @@burak4254 Okul kitaplarından bahsediyorum. Şimdi nasıl bilmiyorum. Benim dönemimde öyleydi

    • @franz490
      @franz490 Год назад

      Curricula (o scrivi bene in latino oppure scrivi in inglese )

    • @faso4800
      @faso4800 Год назад +9

      @@franz490 he used curriculum correctly but you are not able to respond him in english :D

  • @danielefabbro822
    @danielefabbro822 2 года назад +13

    Nobody's knows it, but we Italians invented Aerial warfare. Before this war, aircrafts was not considered as a weapon.
    After this war, every country in the world started looking at airplanes as an instrument to support armies during their advance.
    Italians are pioneers of modern war. 😤

    • @kuvikina
      @kuvikina 2 года назад +5

      Nobody knows it but we Turks downed first bomber/fighter aircraft in history!

    • @Alesxandros
      @Alesxandros 3 месяца назад

      ​@@kuvikina turks are the first bombed by aircraft people in rhe world...nobody knows 🇮🇹💪

  • @dragosstanciu9866
    @dragosstanciu9866 2 года назад +29

    Excellent work in highlighting this forgotten war.

  • @reidarkelstrup
    @reidarkelstrup 2 года назад +124

    I had always heard of the 1st and 2nd Balkan Wars, but had never heard of this one. Great job drawing attention to a forgotten conflict.

    • @tommy-er6hh
      @tommy-er6hh 2 года назад +33

      The 1st Balkan war started as a direct result of this Italo-Ottoman one, the Italians pushed the Balkans to revolt/conquer, and the NEXT DAY the Ottomans ended the Italian war.

    • @DelijeSerbia
      @DelijeSerbia 2 года назад +7

      @@tommy-er6hh It would have happened anyway, just maybe not at that exact moment. There were uprising against Turks all the time in the Balkans and some countries were already formed by rebellion against Ottomans. Liberation of the rest of the Balkans was just a matter of time.

    • @parabelluminvicta8380
      @parabelluminvicta8380 2 года назад +9

      @@DelijeSerbia thats not true and stop undermining the italians you must thank them

    • @DelijeSerbia
      @DelijeSerbia 2 года назад +2

      @@parabelluminvicta8380 what is not true? Ottoman empire was already in decline before this war. Half of the Balkan was already independent and the other half was just waiting for liberation and had multiple rebellions. The Italian war just ment that it was the right time to strike, but even if it didnt happen the Balkan nations would attack Ottomans to finish the liberation.

    • @Milossinchubure
      @Milossinchubure 2 года назад +10

      @@parabelluminvicta8380 it would happen anyway but probably with much more casualties on Balkan allies side, so thank you Italy.

  • @AimForMyHead81
    @AimForMyHead81 Месяц назад +3

    This war really highlighted how far behind the Ottomans were when it came to industry and technology. The Italians absolutely eviscerated them with planes and airships.

  • @jdewitt77
    @jdewitt77 2 года назад +65

    My father's uncle served in this war in the Italian Army as a first lieutenant and won the Silver Medal For Military Valor. He was a career officer who retired many years later as a Brigadier General.

    • @67claudius
      @67claudius 2 года назад +18

      @@awfan221 For fighting in the Battle of Adwa, his father's uncle should have been born about 150 years ago, which is therefore unlikely. More likely he fought in the Second Ethiopian War

  • @stevebarrett9357
    @stevebarrett9357 Год назад +10

    These pre-Great War videos are historical gems. In school, historians tended to sum them up in one or two lines and jump into the Great War itself. Thanks very much for producing these.

  • @christianstahl4099
    @christianstahl4099 2 года назад +74

    Einmal mehr ein informativer Beitrag über einen weniger bekannten Krieg. Sehr gut!

  • @abg927
    @abg927 2 года назад +215

    Enver Bey ve Mustafa Kemal Bey, ruhlarınız şad olsun...

  • @davidjernigan8161
    @davidjernigan8161 2 года назад +13

    Another great video Jessie, and everyone else involved in production and research.

  • @ihhaahhhhhaaa
    @ihhaahhhhhaaa 5 месяцев назад +4

    I love how you meticulously list your sources in these videos. Another great video!

  • @briangarrow448
    @briangarrow448 2 года назад +94

    Fascinating content! He appreciate the research done to compose this segment.
    Well done, gang.
    Well done 👍

  • @inferioraim
    @inferioraim 2 года назад +8

    Great in depth documentary! Love that you covered it in 1 episode

  • @tonytony1035
    @tonytony1035 Год назад

    Absolutely outstanding. This is so far above anything I have ever seen on RUclips. An absolute revelation. Outstanding work, fully referenced. No hype and no BS. I am now a subscriber and will be clicking on all ads. Thank you for real education on obscure events.

  • @sayit462
    @sayit462 2 года назад +13

    I,m Polish rather old 60 + and I never heared about this War. And I know my history. So I thought. Thanx You never to old to learn. I don,t give "likes" any more since YT is censoring

  • @torjeagersenvigmostad7135
    @torjeagersenvigmostad7135 2 года назад +12

    Would it be possible for you at some point to make documentaries about the Senucci and Persian campaigns of WW1? The coverage in the "Week by Week"-series of these campaigns was to sporadic to get any clear picture about their dynamics, and I think many of the fans would greatly appreciate a more detailed presentation of them. As always, great episode, love the work you guys are doing!

  • @stnylan
    @stnylan 2 года назад +9

    It is excellent to see you guys devoting time and resources to all the lesser known conflicts pre and post WW1 (and indeed, the lesser theatres during WW1 when you were covering the "main event" as it were).

  • @Galvaxatron
    @Galvaxatron 2 года назад +6

    Once again, as has become tradition now, I must give you full praise for really truly making every effort to pronounce the names and words of whatever language you are covering. You are a consummate professional.

  • @brainyskeletonofdoom7824
    @brainyskeletonofdoom7824 2 года назад +52

    The father of my grandmother was there, he was an Alpino. Quite an interesting tale.

    • @BountyFlamor
      @BountyFlamor 2 года назад +3

      Sounds like he was a bit out of place there.

    • @salsaniggas8544
      @salsaniggas8544 2 года назад +8

      Mountain troops are always needed

  • @eisentzgruppe
    @eisentzgruppe Год назад +12

    My great grandfather fought in this war (subsequentely also in WWI). My girlfriend’s grandfather fought in this war too and received a gold medal pour le mérite - one of the few to reiceive it still alive. There are a couple of statues here in Italy to remember his action (1 in Milan and 1 in Merano)

  • @brianthomas8125
    @brianthomas8125 2 года назад +34

    Well done. I read "Box of Sand", and was amazed about the cooperation between Pollio and Caneva. Still, they had communication gaps fortunately, Regia Marina utterly trounced the Ottomans at sea. Another interesting point is that the great Diaz cut his teeth by being wounded at Zanzur and developed strategical ideas focusing primarily on speed and innovation.

  • @tatianafrangopoulou421
    @tatianafrangopoulou421 2 года назад +1

    Excellent work once again! Thank you Great War team!

  • @cordial001
    @cordial001 2 года назад +5

    You guys do such a great job with your videos. Always a pleasure to watch

  • @rtrident4803
    @rtrident4803 2 года назад +5

    another great video from the team! Awesome work!

  • @handsomegeorgianbankrobber3779
    @handsomegeorgianbankrobber3779 2 года назад +41

    16:40 Giuseppe Rossi is like the most generic Italian name imagineable, kind of like being called John Smith. And funnily enough its also the name of an Italian footballer.

    • @awfan221
      @awfan221 2 года назад +1

      Multiple Italian footballers are called Giuseppe Rossi. Unfortunately none of them amounted to anything major

    • @saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014
      @saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014 2 года назад +1

      Or French: François Tremblay, or Spanish Garcia Hernandez

    • @grpelo
      @grpelo 2 года назад +4

      Mario Rossi is more generic

    • @haticealbayrak2387
      @haticealbayrak2387 Год назад +1

      In turkish mehmet yilmaz

    • @ItalyHistoryXxX
      @ItalyHistoryXxX 10 месяцев назад +1

      😂true. I from Italy, Rossi in my nation is a adress most generic,but the name most generic is Mario. Sorry for my english😅. Bye Bro

  • @peterfeeney721
    @peterfeeney721 Год назад

    Absolutely superb presentation! Your vocal cadence and tone are engaging and admirably supported by your images.

  • @GunDrummer
    @GunDrummer 2 года назад +2

    Just found this channel and having a great time with it. Thank you

  • @marcl.1346
    @marcl.1346 2 года назад +15

    The Great War is my favorite channel of all the chronological war channels purely because it tells (and tells very well) the story of more obscure lesser-known conflicts.

  • @Lukastar1
    @Lukastar1 2 года назад +5

    Awesome video, I’ve never really known much about this conflict!

  • @samy7013
    @samy7013 2 года назад +7

    This is an excellent documentary about an often-overlooked war. Thank you for making this video!

  • @PolyglotBikepacker
    @PolyglotBikepacker 2 года назад +6

    As a historian I cannot praise this channel highly enough. Excellent work!

  • @amonferrari
    @amonferrari 2 года назад +5

    Each episode a pearl! Congrats Jesse and Team!

  • @indianajones4321
    @indianajones4321 2 года назад +6

    Such an awesome video Great War team!

  • @davidwoody5228
    @davidwoody5228 2 года назад +1

    Excellent coverage. I had never heard of this war! Thanks!

  • @shawngilliland243
    @shawngilliland243 2 года назад +10

    Superb video of the conflict! I found the description of some of the - hitherto unknown to me! - first use of aircraft in war fascinating! The Italian use of torpedo boats was skillful as well. Thank you for another great Great War learning experience!

  • @MomentsInTrading
    @MomentsInTrading 2 года назад +14

    I found this channel about 2 weeks ago from Vlogging Through History. I started on the 1st video and so far have watched over 60 of them, including about 10 just yesterday. Really enjoying the series a lot!!!

    • @manufer2
      @manufer2 2 года назад +2

      Be careful, I started watching in 2015 and now I just can't wait for the next video. Highly addictive.

  • @alexwendler5479
    @alexwendler5479 2 года назад +4

    Great work! Loved to hear how great powers influenced the course of the war!

  • @patricksanchez3142
    @patricksanchez3142 Год назад +1

    Sublime work you guys, can t express how much I m enjoying your channel. Keep it up with the great job!

  • @kyrgyzsanjar
    @kyrgyzsanjar 2 года назад +6

    Another excellent material on little know pages of the history. I expect nothing less from TGW channel! Much love to you guys!

  • @TheStraha216
    @TheStraha216 2 года назад +4

    I did not know much about this war, especially with how much significance it had on history. Thanks for creating and sharing.

  • @poiuyt975
    @poiuyt975 2 года назад +20

    4:15 "Austria-Hungary wanted stability in the Balkans"
    That quote didn't age well. :D

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  2 года назад +4

      aged like Conrad von Hötzendorffs legacy

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  2 года назад +2

      aged like Conrad von Hötzendorffs legacy

  • @jimcronin2043
    @jimcronin2043 Год назад +1

    Excellent presentation and topic selection of an important but forgotten piece of history. Well done!

  • @CatotheE
    @CatotheE 2 года назад +1

    An important war that’s often overlooked! Great and informative video!

  • @joshuacordero8163
    @joshuacordero8163 2 года назад +5

    Amazing episode, learned a lot!!

  • @last_week_with_diogo_br8386
    @last_week_with_diogo_br8386 2 года назад +3

    I been waiting for this thanks to the great War channel.

  • @followme8238
    @followme8238 Год назад

    Thank you, this was very informative and very well organized and presented

  • @joshuaworman4022
    @joshuaworman4022 2 года назад +1

    oh damn i have been wanting pre ww1 material since i found this channel. so many unanswered questions i hope to now get context for.

  • @cyphicle
    @cyphicle 2 года назад +24

    Great job, congratulations to the team. I find very interesting the succession of the words "necessity" and "appetite", a greed can be publicly justified by a promoter as a necessary step forward to make. The balance of the powers on the European scene was indeed so complex before 1914 that even the behaviour of a single ally in a set of alliances could be a trouble for the whole structure of security in Europe. WWI was not unavoidable at that stage but yet, the decades lasting stability was shaken.

  • @pbosustow
    @pbosustow 2 года назад +26

    Thank you so much for posting this. My great grandfather and great uncle fought for Italy in this war. My great grandfather died of illness he picked up in Libya. Apart from that I knew nothing about it. Keep up the great work featuring lesser known conflicts.

    • @manzelli1981
      @manzelli1981 2 года назад +2

      Hopefully your family has some letters/journals etc from your great grandfather and great uncle. The perspective of the fighting men would be fascinating when compared to the grand statements from the generals and diplomats.

    • @pbosustow
      @pbosustow 2 года назад +2

      @@manzelli1981 Unfortunately nothing like that has survived, but yes the foot soldier's perspective is always fascinating.

  • @billkarathanassis4508
    @billkarathanassis4508 2 года назад +2

    This is a very well-resourced and compact study that makes us understand more about world tensions that even remain today.

  • @1LSWilliam
    @1LSWilliam 2 года назад +2

    Really solid analysis. Thank you.

  • @michaelmayo3127
    @michaelmayo3127 2 года назад +5

    As always a great presentation.

  • @MrDmuny944
    @MrDmuny944 2 года назад +4

    Fantastic I never knew of this conflict and I’m glad I learned something new!

  • @raveman7
    @raveman7 Год назад

    super awesome channel -- great job guys keep up the great work in the content.. love this stuff!!

  • @angriff69
    @angriff69 2 года назад

    Thank you. A very brilliant, sharp documentary

  • @pokefan-ix7sh
    @pokefan-ix7sh 2 года назад +53

    The Italo-Turkish or Turco-Italian War (Turkish: Trablusgarp Savaşı, "Tripolitanian War", Italian: Guerra di Libia, "War of Libya") was fought between the Kingdom of Italy and the Ottoman Empire from 29 September 1911, to 18 October 1912. As a result of this conflict, Italy captured the Ottoman Tripolitania Vilayet, of which the main sub-provinces were Fezzan, Cyrenaica, and Tripoli itself. These territories became the colonies of Italian Tripolitania and Cyrenaica, which would later merge into Italian Libya.
    During the conflict, Italian forces also occupied the Dodecanese islands in the Aegean Sea. Italy agreed to return the Dodecanese to the Ottoman Empire in the Treaty of Ouchy[10] in 1912. However, the vagueness of the text, combined with subsequent adverse events unfavourable to the Ottoman Empire (the outbreak of the Balkan Wars and World War I), allowed a provisional Italian administration of the islands, and Turkey eventually renounced all claims on these islands in Article 15 of the 1923 Treaty of Lausanne.[11]
    Although minor, the war was a precursor of the First World War as it sparked nationalism in the Balkan states. Seeing how easily the Italians had defeated the weakened Ottomans, the members of the Balkan League attacked the Ottoman Empire starting the First Balkan War before the war with Italy had ended.[12]
    The Italo-Turkish War saw numerous technological changes, most notably the use of airplanes in combat. On 23 October 1911, an Italian pilot, Capitano Carlo Piazza, flew over Turkish lines on the world's first aerial reconnaissance mission,[13] and on 1 November, the first ever aerial bomb was dropped by Sottotenente Giulio Gavotti, on Turkish troops in Libya, from an early model of Etrich Taube aircraft.[14] The Turks, lacking anti-aircraft weapons, were the first to shoot down an airplane by rifle fire.[15] Another use of new technology was a network of wireless telegraphy stations established soon after the initial landings.[16] Guglielmo Marconi himself came to Libya to conduct experiments with the Italian Corps of Engineers.

    • @clintfalk
      @clintfalk 2 года назад

      I'm giving you thumbs down for trying to sound clever and explain the same topic that this video covers. If you want the glory, you need to have made a video about it, instead of spouting off your knowledge in the comments section.

    • @dodderythedromedary6890
      @dodderythedromedary6890 2 года назад +3

      @@clintfalk He litteraly just copy-pasted the Wikipedia article lol.

  • @blessedheavyelements8544
    @blessedheavyelements8544 2 года назад +9

    Thank you for all the hard work to bring history to life. I can't imagine the work and effort. Best Regards and Best Wishes!

  • @zeothorn
    @zeothorn Год назад

    Great history lesson thanks for making this and i hope you will continue with more.Outstanding

  • @blockmasterscott
    @blockmasterscott 2 года назад +1

    Wow, I never heard of this war. Well, another reason to love your channel!

  • @dougjohnson5487
    @dougjohnson5487 2 года назад +66

    Excellent video on a forgotten war. I saw the movie "Lion of the Desert" with Anthony Quinn who played Omar Mukhtar in the 1980 film. The only film I know made about the war. It was criticized at the time since Kahdafi provided the financing.

    • @operator9858
      @operator9858 2 года назад +4

      Great film.

    • @Leucemia29
      @Leucemia29 2 года назад +23

      “Lion of the desert” wasn’t about that war,it was about the italian “war” against libyan guerrilla in the ‘20s leaded by Rodolfo Graziani

    • @stephanl1983
      @stephanl1983 2 года назад +9

      @@Leucemia29 the rebellion was a continuation If the war of 1911-12. The local Arabs never stopped fighting against the Italians.
      Like France Had in Morroco, Italy had a lot of problems when they reduced their troops in Africa to fight in WW1. They Just could defend the coastal regions of Libya, the Arabs recapture all of its interior the Italians Had captured prior to 1915.
      Italy had also a lot of internal difficulties after 1918.
      When Mussolini became the Duce, He want to rebuild the Roman Empire, so one of his first decissions was to send more troops to Lybia.

    • @user-dl1bs6lm1g
      @user-dl1bs6lm1g 2 года назад

      Well, its propagandistic nature and the Arab nationalist ideals behind it are quite obvious to say the least.

  • @T_Mo271
    @T_Mo271 2 года назад +3

    Excellent presentation. I like the all-in-one format, it suits events of moderate size and complexity.

  • @jensnieper8676
    @jensnieper8676 2 года назад +2

    Very interesting presentation! Thanks!

  • @mleite2006
    @mleite2006 2 года назад

    Amazing knowledge. Thank you for share.

  • @chadwickciampo3634
    @chadwickciampo3634 2 года назад +5

    Love these longer episodes. But also really like the shorter ones for a quick break.
    I can't tell you how much I have learned through your many series.
    Thank you.

  • @MPF5856
    @MPF5856 4 месяца назад +4

    the italo-turkish war showed to the world that the ottoman empire was weak and undeveloped. This allowed the balkan powers to wage the first balkan war against the ottomans and push them from their balkan territories

  • @j.a.emmanueltemplemann5627
    @j.a.emmanueltemplemann5627 2 года назад

    Thank you for this vid,
    Really well done

  • @earltaylor1893
    @earltaylor1893 2 года назад +2

    I learned something new… again. This channel is great for that!

  • @orhanemiratlgan9478
    @orhanemiratlgan9478 Год назад +6

    This war is the beginning of non-ending 11 years of war for Turkish side. It started with this war and followed by Balkan wars, WW1 and Turkish War of Independence, ending in 1922. Turks lost %35 of their healthy male population during these wars due to battles, diseases and hunger.

  • @CacklingAntagonist
    @CacklingAntagonist 2 года назад +31

    I'd consider myself a history Buff but I knew absolutely nothing about this conflict. Really fascinating, thanks for the video!

    • @John-pk9rw
      @John-pk9rw Год назад +1

      I mean you can’t blame someone who thinks Libyans are Arabs

  • @1991jerzy
    @1991jerzy 2 года назад +1

    I wait for this topic for long time. Thanks.

  • @harrycarter1722
    @harrycarter1722 2 года назад

    This is a gem. Thank you!

  • @Autobotmatt428
    @Autobotmatt428 2 года назад +3

    Awesome I am looking forward to more pre ww1 content.

  • @sdbentrup
    @sdbentrup 2 года назад +83

    I wonder how many wars have been fought throughout history where the invaders "expected to be welcomed as liberators"? We seem to never learn.
    Thanks for this video, such great information! Hopefully you do the other prelude to WWI, the Balkan Wars of 1912-1913.

    • @mikepalmer2219
      @mikepalmer2219 Год назад +8

      The saying that there is never a just war has a lot of meaning.

    • @giors5329
      @giors5329 Год назад +6

      A lot.. I believe is more for propaganda..

    • @theillusiveman2139
      @theillusiveman2139 Год назад +11

      Well, in WW1 a lot of arabs fought against ottoman empire, that' s not strange

    • @muysli.y1855
      @muysli.y1855 Год назад +4

      @@theillusiveman2139 they was not dissatisfied like Libyian ppl they was just greedy and at the end they lost everything (Karma)

    • @ELVIS1975T
      @ELVIS1975T Год назад +3

      @@muysli.y1855 Türksün belli :)

  • @dirteeshoe4069
    @dirteeshoe4069 2 года назад

    Phenomenal performance, subscribed for sure

  • @AJ-et3vf
    @AJ-et3vf 2 года назад

    Awesome video! Thank you!

  • @iacchetti88
    @iacchetti88 2 года назад +17

    Sto leggendo commenti di Turchi che ancora stanno rosicando

  • @mikepette4422
    @mikepette4422 2 года назад +6

    Highly recommend MacMillans "Paris: 1919" this was the book i read to get a real understanding about the war

  • @DOUGLAS55ish
    @DOUGLAS55ish 2 года назад +1

    I have studied history most of my 67 years of living but this is the first time I have heard of this conflict. You learn something new every day.

  • @scene2much
    @scene2much 2 года назад

    I thought I knew stuff. I didn't know about this war. Thanks for the Info and the Humble Pie.

  • @costante_3196
    @costante_3196 2 года назад +18

    Simpatici voi anglosassoni..Questa del 1911 fu l'ultima guerra coloniale? :-) perchè quella vostra in Kenia negli anni cinquanta cos'era? la guerra degli USA nelle Filippine?

    • @matteobrandi7541
      @matteobrandi7541 2 года назад +10

      Dialogare con uno statunitense o un inglese riguardo l' Italia é impresa divina.

  • @cagdaskose9429
    @cagdaskose9429 Год назад +36

    As a Turkish and military history buff, Ottoman troops also fought heroically in Italians. However, the resistance of the Libyan people did not end even after we Turks withdrew. The Senusis were defeated during the Fascist italy period. I recommend the movie omer muhtar, the lion of the desert.

    • @franz490
      @franz490 Год назад +4

      Un vergognoso film di propaganda anti italiana

    • @pandaren_brewmaster
      @pandaren_brewmaster Год назад +2

      Sacma propaganda film, beş para etmez.

  • @otterkarman8740
    @otterkarman8740 Год назад +2

    Very educational . Thank you.

  • @BigboiiTone
    @BigboiiTone 2 года назад

    Imagining this fascinating history as a video game. Excellent visuals and narration.