I received a 'Lady SpinWelder for Christmas, 1975. It was my favorite toy of all time, and I soon became obsessed with welding even at age 13. After 10th Grade, I went directly to Trade School to learn Professional Welding. After graduating, I started working at a small Machine Shop as their Welder. Within 2 years, I started my own Welding Shop which immediately became very successful. I then expanded to Mobile Welding and had 15 Trucks on the road. Not long after that, I opened Welding Shops across the Country with 57 locations in the US and 12 overseas. Today we continue to grow and expand to the point of selling Franchises. All because of the 'Lady SpinWelder'!
What an awesome story. It's so important to plant the seeds in young people that they can do more with their lives than just be a consumer of stuff that other people make. If you open your mind to the possibilities of actually creating and building things, your future will be much more fulfilled.
@@Willam_J Yes. When I was around 12 we had fun in a ship modeling shop, vacuum-forming fiberglass hulls. Sometimes the epoxy bucket overheated and blew all kinds of fumes. Ventilation? what ventilation? My younger brother started paragliding at 14 and quit after a crash while still at high school. This was close.
Trivia tidbit. Yes, it was from K-mart. A lot of people don't know, but every department in K-mart was actually a separate company which leased space within K-mart. The reason the price tag says Key 1 is because K-mart had to have a way to record sales for each company/department. So when this was rung up at the register, they would enter the price and then press Key #1 and that sale would be recorded for the General Merchandise dept. I worked in shoes for a while and the company that owned the shoe department was Meldisco, (Melville Discount) owned by Frank Melville who made his initial fortune when he founded the Thom McAn shoe store chain. Key 1: General Merchandise Key 2: Non-taxable Key 3: Camera & Jewelry Key 4: Infants Apparel Key 5: Men’s Apparel Key 6: Ladies Apparel Key 7: Sporting Goods Key 8: Automotive Key 9: Shoes
The "SS K" on the price label came from the fact the official name of the company was still S. S. Kresge, even though the first K-Mart opened in 1962. The S. S. Kresge stores from before the launch of K-Mart continued to operate for at least ten more years (I remember them from the 1970s) and S. S. Kresge labeled items would be sold in K-Mart stores so we don't know for certain which store this was sold through. The name of the company officially change in 1977 from S.S. Kresge Company to K Mart Corporation. The fact the price on the original sticker is covered by the new sticker indicates a price increase. We were instructed to let the old price show, if the new price was lower.
I remember giving a Spinwelder to my ten year old nephew back in the day. Someone else gave him a talking battery operated Woody Wood Pecker doll, and he used the Spinwelder to seal Woody's mouth shut. It was pretty funny to hear the doll trying to talk with its mouth sealed shut.
That original motor should work but you need very light pressure, only pressing down after 3 seconds. The light touch heats up the plastic and then you push down to "mold" the rivet. It's a sequential process :)
It worked fine back then. The plastic “rivets” have lost some level of their polymers. Yes, it was minor “hit” back then, but again getting kids to make things is always a good thing. It’s a bit unfair to judge a products worth back then from today’s view. Everything we played with in the 50’s, 60’s and the 70’s helped us become the makers we are today, comfortable building and modifying everything around us.
Could it be that after over 50 years the plastic has become brittle and now it doesn't work for "spin welding"? You're fun no matter what. Thanks for a great video.
@@simonstroud2555 More likely all the oil or grease has dried up making the motor sticky. Could even have dead spots on the commutator (mild corrosion) that make the motor spin unevenly. If that's the case and the motor happens to stop in the wrong position (brushes on one of the dead spots) it won't even spin up again. Or the motor is fine and there's just more of a technique to it, like waiting until the motor is at full speed and applying very little pressure.
@@alexandralamberton5615 Maybe PVC or ABS? The 50s were when plastic really started to take off. Earlier materials were mostly toxic, flammable, or both. The plasticizers added half a century ago would certainly have started breaking down or evaporating by now.
@@stickyfoxNot ABS it was and still expensive. All my toys back then were mostly Styrene. The cheapest ones were LDPE. The few that survived past my childhood; The Styrene ones virtually unchanged though it's possible they were a poor grade of Styrene and changed over the decades. The LDPE ones "hardened" "shrunk or warped " and fractured from age I guess.
There are in fact additives called "plasticizers" added to plastic. (I always thought it interesting that plastic needed additives to make it more plastic!) Those compounds can be volatile enough to seep/evaporate out of the plastic over the years.
Yes, the plasticizers like Bisphenol are also endocrine disrupters, easily liberated from the plastic into solution aided by common alkaline dish soap.
The distinction between thermoplastics and thermosetting plastics is an important aspect of the broader category of materials often referred to as "plastics." While both are types of polymers, they exhibit different behaviors when subjected to heat and pressure. Thermoplastics: These plastics are characterized by their ability to soften and become pliable when heated. They can be molded into different shapes when heated and solidify into the desired form upon cooling. The process of heating and cooling can be repeated without significantly altering the material's properties. Common examples of thermoplastics include polyethylene, polypropylene, and PVC (polyvinyl chloride). Thermosetting Plastics: Thermosetting plastics undergo a chemical change when heated and molded, resulting in a permanent and rigid structure. Once set, these plastics cannot be re-melted or re-shaped by heating. The initial heating process typically involves the formation of a three-dimensional network of bonds, making the material hard and stable. Examples of thermosetting plastics include epoxy resins, phenolic resins, and melamine. The term "plastic" is often used broadly to refer to both thermoplastics and thermosetting plastics, contributing to a common misconception. Colloquially, people might use "plastic" to describe a wide range of polymer-based materials, whether they are thermoplastic or thermosetting. The distinction becomes more critical in technical and industrial contexts, especially when selecting materials for specific applications or manufacturing processes. In summary, when people use the term "plastic" informally, they may be referring to a range of polymer materials, including both thermoplastics and thermosetting plastics. The technical distinction becomes more relevant in precise discussions about material properties and applications.
This is probably styrene which is used without plasticisers. But it breaks down over time just from ambient heat like most polymers, becoming brittle due to lost cohesion. The most important additive in this family of plastics is a flame retardant, but rumour has it, it has the propensity to accelerate polymer degradation.
My dad had a work lantern that used 2 of those batteries. I used to "borrow" it at night and would read under the covers for hours. I don't think he ever discovered why the batteries didn't last long. I saw a couple of the new batteries at a store yesterday and they were $16.95 each!
I'm thinking that the problem is not with the spin welder or the concept but the actual plastic. I mean that stuff's been sitting in a box for 50 years. So I don't know how many volatile organic compounds evaporated out of it or how much it oxidized I mean, we don't really even know what kind of plastic it is. But I'm guessing if you use that tool with some new like milk jug plastic it would work with no problem
I had a regular spinwelder as a kid and it was great. After I made the car in the kit I discovered it would also weld milk jug plastic and I made a DIY toy spaceship.
Today, you can friction weld your 3d printed cosplay pieces... you can even use the same type of rivet system to connect your 3d printed plastic pieces to fabric.
The transition to the Drill gave me a good laugh. The idea of trying 3dprinted studs for easier to work with PLA comes to mind.. but if I was to bother printing it.. I might as well make it in a way not to need the spin welder. (ie pin that you tap together with a hammer)
@@SianaGearz And adjusted for inflation that makes a lot more sense. It's not like this was a high-tech item, just loads of injection-moulded plastics, cheap to produce in high volumes, and a small motor.
My sister grew up to be an engineer. There was nothing stopping girls from having the same toys as boys, or playing with their brothers' toys. It largely depends on the parents and their private attitudes. My dad was an engineer and had no problem with my sister getting "Meccano", the toy for building things. The most masculine toy she got was "Battle Wagon", a magnificent warship, she also got "Action Man" before I did ("GI Joe"). When she grew up she had a career in engineering, but eventually gave it up after she married and started to have children. This was her personal preference not the result of brainwashing.
I had a similar toy when I was growing up in the 70ies-80ies. It was more of a construction set that had little spin rivets (marketed for boys). I really enjoyed making things with it but it stunk of burning plastic. It was like a plastic erector set. I remember it working better though...
I'm thoroughly surprised they didn't make the gun for the Lady Spinwelder in PINK instead of green. Maybe they weren't trying to market it, as hard as we all thought.
@@listerdave1240 That does seem more likely, although Mattel went to the expense of getting all the new boxes and instructions printing lines set up, along with the injection-moulding dies for the studs and the black tool/chuck, none of which would have been as cheap as just land-filling the unsold spin guns.
This is an almost 50 year old toy. Of course the materials have degraded to the point of not working correctly. Kudos to Mattel for trying to interest girls in something other than Barbies and Mystery Date. This was a gateway toy designed to get girls interested in materials science and fabrication.
First you have to meet their felt needs before you can interest them in design engineering. This is a valid comparison to industrial processes. I didn't see you put a multi-meter on the battery. I wonder how dead it was.
OMG Fran! I thought I was the ONLY person who ever got this as a gift! LOL! Hillarious! Thanks for taking me back in time to an awful gift from Aunt Esther...Gawd rest her soul! She ment well :) I laughed when you pulled out the drill. That is what we tried too :) Awwww memories! Try it with fabric! NOT FUN!
I remember back about 1982 someone gave my brother a Spinweld kit. Can't remember if it was a car or whatever, but we were too poor to afford a lantern battery for the welder. My brother had an unusual affinity for tape, so he decided to try and tape everything together. It didn't go well.
Don't remember those but did have a foam cutter. It had a hot wire that you could use to cut up foam sheets or old food trays to make artworks out of. Probably good for 3rd degree finger burns too! My family was poor so my sister and I didn't get too many of the really cool toys back then.
Probably the plasticizers have evaporated over the 50-odd years this has been sitting "new in box", which seems to be the main killer of old plastic items, no just going brown as the mixed-in fire retardant oxidises. I'd guess that the functionality of the original spin-welder relied on the rivets being soft as well.
Ah plasticizers, we meet again. It's always annoying when migratory plasticizers ruin something. Often it occurs when you accidentally lay something silicone on something plastic, and the plastic melts. I ran into someone on a homebrewing channel that was wondering what the heck was happening when his plastic airlocks drooped over like a wilting flowers, then pulled apart like string cheese. My guess was plasticizer migration from the rubber bungs.
I wonder if the plastic is just so old it doesn't melt that well anymore. Glad I didn't get either spin welder kit as a kid. I got an erector set, and my favorite, a 300 in 1 electronics lab from Radio Shack.
I think the girl on the box is Kim Richards. She was in Escape to Witch Mountain and a 1976 episode of The Rockford Files called "The Family Hour." I received a spin welder for Christmas in the mid 70s. Worst toy ever. I couldn't get the tips to melt. They'd just break. And the kit didn't include enough spares to accommodate the learning curve. Had to send off for more, and then wait 6 weeks for another baggie of 20 tips to arrive in the mail.
You are not suppose to press down hard. The spinning tip causes friction that melts the plastic. Pressing down hard stops the tool from spinning fast so it cannot melt the plastic.
Lantern batteries are often built with D cells, and D cells are often built with AA batteries these days. I wouldn't doubt that huge thing is the equivalent to 4 AA batteries in series. I remember when Duracell and Energizer batteries were at their peak in the late 90s/early 2000s and went downhill from there. They were practically guaranteed to not leak, and they lasted. These days, they leak like sieves. I just buy the cheap batteries, anymore. They might actually be less likely to leak probably because they are weaker.
@@robertgaines-tulsaI haven't come across a modern D cell that is just a tarted up AA, they are still heavy full batteries. Now I haven't taken apart a lantern battery in many years, but I would doubt that they use the big tall cells anymore, they probably aren't even manufactured... Probably just D cells in a plastic case.
@volvo09 AAs masquerading as Cs and Ds are common in rechargeables. It's too bad this toy didn't ask for the larger lantern battery, the one about the size of a recipe card box with threaded terminals on the top. The battery may be giving 6v and change, but that connector looks loose and lossy under load.
I don't understand why she always has to sneer at being a mother. Being a mother, making humans, and raising them is the most incredible thing there is. Being an engineer is something anyone can do. Engineering will probably be replaced by AI. Doctors can easily be replaced by AI for 99% of their work right now. Its only regulations keeping AI from replacing these jobs. But being a mother is amazing and irreplaceable. Why denigrate it?
I dont think those "lantern batteries" contain four full-sized "F" cells anymore. It might be worth getting out *The Pliers of Inquiry* and making a video.
They don't. At least, not the one I 'anti-assembled' a few years ago. Four unclad zinc-carbon 'C' batteries inside. Was making a Li-Ion 'replacement' version of a lantern battery, complete with built-in regulator and charge controller. Was NOT as successful as I'd hoped...
Howdy Fran, I have been told that the Latern Battery has multiple C Batteries stacked inside now and you're not getting as much energy as you used to get. Perhaps disassemble yours if you hadn't done this before.
Believe it or not, I find that toys and clothes are divided far more sharply now and marketed to either girls or boys than companies did back in the 70s and 80s. Clothes for little girls especially, you see a lot of "Princess" stuff for girls and "Monster" stuff for boys, which is horrible when you think about it! When I went to buy sandals for my son around age 5, he only had a choice of two styles of sandals, whereas for girls there were several shelves filled with all different styles of sandals. I had my son in 1994 and my daughter in 2004 and it was very noticeable how very polarised the clothes and toy markets had become to target boys or girls specifically.
Look at Lego. In the 1970s it was mainly basic sets that both girls and boys could enjoy. Interestingly the company founder refused to produce green bricks as he didn't want Lego to be used to make military vehicles. Now it is nearly all themed with Lego "Friends" for the girls and Lego "Enemies" also known as Star Wars or Ninjago for the boys.
I would say that given the age of that kit. the cheap plastic has lost its oils making it more brittle and less plyant, and the motor magnets have also lost their coercivity due to time, but I love your fix, Fran says "I think this needs more power" pulls out a DeWalt drill motor. Brilliant... 😆
I think the girl on the box is Kim Richards from "Escape to Witch Mountain" and "Hello Larry". She's the sister of Kyle Richards and was also on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills for the first few seasons.
I’ve never heard of welding boing in toy form. I wouldn’t mind learning how to weld no, but something like that, how do you fabricate cloth and felt without ruining the welding knife in the process lol. This is a new one on me lol.
There is a Lot of great Science in this toy you don't seem to recognize. As a kid, my spin welder worked great, and my sister Independently found creative ideas to use our spin welder for ART and decorating cloth. The foam you used doesn't have enough static friction to hold the studs. ME-Thinks You Complain too much, ..There are folks who follow directions, folks who write directions, and folks who Create and Inspire. But then I am just a physicist/ Neuroscientist with 35 years of STEAM Education and from a family of Luthiers who cut up perfectly good Gibson's to make them "better" and who was Inspired by the electronics of these toys....and my sister's Dumble....
ABSOLUTELY!! We had the tools! The 70's American Culture was different, by gosh we were encouraged to smoke(?)! My Mom taught us how to sew, and I learned the physics of a Singer Sewing machine, while the "Non-Testosterone poisoned" members of our family made creative stylistic clothes from sewing patterns ordered from Sears and advanced sewing skills! Compare a Singer Sewing Machine to a Lathe with a Taper attachment! We "uglified" many cloth based garments. @@highpath4776
I wonder if the rivets would perform normally if run through a dehydrator. It might help to remove the water and anneal the plastic, based on what I've learned from 3D printing.
Talk about a blast from the past. I had the helicopter kit. The main rotor was rubberband-powered. Unfortunately, the structure couldn't withstand the pull of the rubberband and broke every time I tried to wind up the rotor. :(
last time I bought a brand new lantern battery, it was dead. Same with the other two I bought before it. I decided to tear it down since it's just a bunch of cells inside the package and the damn thing was just riddled with corrosion from all the cells leaking inside what looked like a nice clean battery. I wonder how many of these batteries are rattling around on store shelves in similar condition.
It is very sad to see that children’s products. These days are so much more dummed down than products used to be. It’s like they have no expectation for children being smart anymore😢
Instead of getting worked up about reading between lines that are not there, try thinking about it like boys had the short end of the stick. Anyone could get the original version, but those who identified as girls had more options. When I was little i not only enjoyed getting oily in the shop where my father worked, i loved baking with my mother, and even sewing with the lady’s who would babysit. Today i work on engines, cook food, and have two machines for working leather or fixing my flannels. I know, its a weird way to think and not “correct” by todays standards.
Hii , Happy new year , first video from Fran I watch was one using one... spining tool to solder two plastic pieces, I was reading about 3d printing and found a comment where they recommend the video
I get what you are trying to say but come on let's be real, they're in business to SELL products. Most, nearly ALL 11 year old girls actually want to make fun unique jewelry and stuff like that. They would have zero interest in boy stuff like welding metal, Lincoln Logs, etc.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 This is especially funny to me because I was born in 1964, I am the daughter of a diesel mechanic/welder and I am a retired fitter/welder. I was more of a help my Dad in the garage type girl, than a daytime soap watching fashion girl! 😂
If girls were engineer-minded, they would have probably just bought the kit marketed towards the boys. Fact is, Mattel marketed this line of toy to what the majority of girls of the time found interesting to them. They probably even did some market research before the production phase. They probably should have invested more into product development. LOL
As the battery goes individually packed batteries are shrink wrapped to protect the labels. Most of those labels are required for sale so if they get damaged the battery cannot be legally sold. Its cheaper to shrink wrap them to protect the labels than deal with returned stock.
I had almost forgotten spinwelding. Plastic over time absorbs moisture and becomes brittle and doesn't melt as easily. Something I learned from 3D printing.
I never saw Spinwelder as a child. I do remember other "DIY" child things. My (I forgot now if it was my parents or grandparents) bought me a "you build it" Grandfather Clock kit. It was fun i still remember gluing the wood pieces together and using it after, (& it kept time) I learned to adjust the pendulum to advance or retard the timing. I didn't get many toys as a kid, (and my friends broke most of them after Christmas) but because I had to do the work, it was much more memorable over the pre made stuff.
I agree with your analysis of the plastic. There were probably some volatile elements in the plastic that have evaporated over the last 50 years. With that said, I remember 1960s and 1970s toys. There were metal toys, wooden toys, and plastic toys. The metal toys were borderline lethal. Kids born in the 1950s were taught to live with danger and to walk off pain. Those skills were honed with the metal toys. The wooden toys usually cracked on the first day of use if they were not already cracked when they were still new. You would play with them for a few minutes. Then you spent the next two days gluing and nailing them back together with little brads. I did learn some very useful woodworking skills, especially how to glue up wood with Elmer's white glue. I got good at making clamps by wrapping the thing in rope and then twisting the rope. My dad brought home boxes of brads every time he went to the hardware store because I went through so many of them. Within a few months, different elements of various toys would be combined into a Frankentoy. Plastic toys were junk. Just junk. The plastics were bad. They were almost all just hard, brittle plastic made as thinly as possible. They could be repaired as well. We didn't have modern glues, but I would melt the cracks back together with a big soldering iron that I probably ruined in the process.
I remember as a little girl figuring out that this was not real metal and it was just plastic. I asked for a chemistry set instead.
Oh, much better choice!
Unless you got a chemistry set of the kind they sell today. Dumbed down to the extreme. Sad to see.
@@fredknox2781 The ones we had in the 1970s looked like the EU's banned substances code. Chromium salts, cadmium salts...
It's unfortunate that safety tends to run counter to fun in chemistry.
Anybody do Sulphur and candlewax? Perhaps I should ask if anyone _didn't._
I received a 'Lady SpinWelder for Christmas, 1975. It was my favorite toy of all time, and I soon became obsessed with welding even at age 13. After 10th Grade, I went directly to Trade School to learn Professional Welding. After graduating, I started working at a small Machine Shop as their Welder. Within 2 years, I started my own Welding Shop which immediately became very successful. I then expanded to Mobile Welding and had 15 Trucks on the road. Not long after that, I opened Welding Shops across the Country with 57 locations in the US and 12 overseas. Today we continue to grow and expand to the point of selling Franchises. All because of the 'Lady SpinWelder'!
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What an awesome story. It's so important to plant the seeds in young people that they can do more with their lives than just be a consumer of stuff that other people make. If you open your mind to the possibilities of actually creating and building things, your future will be much more fulfilled.
You mean you believe that?@@louisvillaescusa
Right
oh this FOR SURE happened...
I know my spinwelder worked fine back in the day because I remember getting burned with molten plastic several times.
We are better people because of the toys we had in the 60’s. My Vac-U-Form was amazing then and now!
@@Willam_J Yes. When I was around 12 we had fun in a ship modeling shop, vacuum-forming fiberglass hulls. Sometimes the epoxy bucket overheated and blew all kinds of fumes. Ventilation? what ventilation? My younger brother started paragliding at 14 and quit after a crash while still at high school. This was close.
Ever get the Spinwelder wrapped up in your hair?
@@Willam_J me and my brother had one . first time we used it we burned ourselves on the hot plastic. that was the last time we saw the machine.
Ah, second degree burns, the gift that keeps on giving.
Trivia tidbit. Yes, it was from K-mart. A lot of people don't know, but every department in K-mart was actually a separate company which leased space within K-mart. The reason the price tag says Key 1 is because K-mart had to have a way to record sales for each company/department. So when this was rung up at the register, they would enter the price and then press Key #1 and that sale would be recorded for the General Merchandise dept. I worked in shoes for a while and the company that owned the shoe department was Meldisco, (Melville Discount) owned by Frank Melville who made his initial fortune when he founded the Thom McAn shoe store chain.
Key 1: General Merchandise Key 2: Non-taxable Key 3: Camera & Jewelry Key 4: Infants Apparel Key 5: Men’s Apparel Key 6: Ladies Apparel Key 7: Sporting Goods Key 8: Automotive Key 9: Shoes
That sounds very similar to the theme tune to "Are you being Served" 🙂
This is FASCINATING! Truly, that is so odd. Neat. I’m almost 50 and I had no idea that’s how KMart used to work.
The "SS K" on the price label came from the fact the official name of the company was still S. S. Kresge, even though the first K-Mart opened in 1962. The S. S. Kresge stores from before the launch of K-Mart continued to operate for at least ten more years (I remember them from the 1970s) and S. S. Kresge labeled items would be sold in K-Mart stores so we don't know for certain which store this was sold through. The name of the company officially change in 1977 from S.S. Kresge Company to K Mart Corporation.
The fact the price on the original sticker is covered by the new sticker indicates a price increase. We were instructed to let the old price show, if the new price was lower.
@peterholthoffman I seem to remember that Kresge had a "Jupiter" brand as well, but I have no idea what that was.
I knew the shoe department was separately owned, but didn't know all the other departments were too!
I remember giving a Spinwelder to my ten year old nephew back in the day. Someone else gave him a talking battery operated Woody Wood Pecker doll, and he used the Spinwelder to seal Woody's mouth shut. It was pretty funny to hear the doll trying to talk with its mouth sealed shut.
fight toys with toys
That original motor should work but you need very light pressure, only pressing down after 3 seconds. The light touch heats up the plastic and then you push down to "mold" the rivet. It's a sequential process :)
That's from SS Kresge, the "dimestore", the predecessor to Kmart. I worked for one back in the late 70's
Or “Kresge’s” as we called it.
kresge at the top of the hill in 69th street!
Yup. Exactly.
It worked fine back then. The plastic “rivets” have lost some level of their polymers. Yes, it was minor “hit” back then, but again getting kids to make things is always a good thing.
It’s a bit unfair to judge a products worth back then from today’s view. Everything we played with in the 50’s, 60’s and the 70’s helped us become the makers we are today, comfortable building and modifying everything around us.
Agree 100%.
This seems pretty cool for a 50 year old toy.
Could it be that after over 50 years the plastic has become brittle and now it doesn't work for "spin welding"? You're fun no matter what. Thanks for a great video.
@@tYNS😂
I reckon that after nearly 50yrs, the "permanent" magnets in the motor will have lost much if their initial strength hence the poor torque?
@@simonstroud2555 More likely all the oil or grease has dried up making the motor sticky. Could even have dead spots on the commutator (mild corrosion) that make the motor spin unevenly. If that's the case and the motor happens to stop in the wrong position (brushes on one of the dead spots) it won't even spin up again.
Or the motor is fine and there's just more of a technique to it, like waiting until the motor is at full speed and applying very little pressure.
don't press hard, give it high rpms and time to melt!
Yep I agree. =)
yeah it really bothered me to see she making it wrong,and i never used one
I wonder if that plastic hardened and shrunk over the years, if this was fresh maybe it would have worked better?
Yeah this was my thought. I wonder what type of plastic it was?
@@alexandralamberton5615Probably something that, years later, was discovered to be very toxic. 😂
@@alexandralamberton5615 Maybe PVC or ABS? The 50s were when plastic really started to take off. Earlier materials were mostly toxic, flammable, or both. The plasticizers added half a century ago would certainly have started breaking down or evaporating by now.
@@01chippe If Fran doesn't post for a few weeks, we will know why!
@@stickyfoxNot ABS it was and still expensive.
All my toys back then were mostly Styrene.
The cheapest ones were LDPE.
The few that survived past my childhood;
The Styrene ones virtually unchanged though it's possible they were a poor grade of Styrene and changed over the decades.
The LDPE ones "hardened" "shrunk or warped " and fractured from age I guess.
There are in fact additives called "plasticizers" added to plastic. (I always thought it interesting that plastic needed additives to make it more plastic!)
Those compounds can be volatile enough to seep/evaporate out of the plastic over the years.
Yes, the plasticizers like Bisphenol are also endocrine disrupters, easily liberated from the plastic into solution aided by common alkaline dish soap.
The distinction between thermoplastics and thermosetting plastics is an important aspect of the broader category of materials often referred to as "plastics." While both are types of polymers, they exhibit different behaviors when subjected to heat and pressure.
Thermoplastics:
These plastics are characterized by their ability to soften and become pliable when heated.
They can be molded into different shapes when heated and solidify into the desired form upon cooling.
The process of heating and cooling can be repeated without significantly altering the material's properties.
Common examples of thermoplastics include polyethylene, polypropylene, and PVC (polyvinyl chloride).
Thermosetting Plastics:
Thermosetting plastics undergo a chemical change when heated and molded, resulting in a permanent and rigid structure.
Once set, these plastics cannot be re-melted or re-shaped by heating.
The initial heating process typically involves the formation of a three-dimensional network of bonds, making the material hard and stable.
Examples of thermosetting plastics include epoxy resins, phenolic resins, and melamine.
The term "plastic" is often used broadly to refer to both thermoplastics and thermosetting plastics, contributing to a common misconception. Colloquially, people might use "plastic" to describe a wide range of polymer-based materials, whether they are thermoplastic or thermosetting. The distinction becomes more critical in technical and industrial contexts, especially when selecting materials for specific applications or manufacturing processes.
In summary, when people use the term "plastic" informally, they may be referring to a range of polymer materials, including both thermoplastics and thermosetting plastics. The technical distinction becomes more relevant in precise discussions about material properties and applications.
This is probably styrene which is used without plasticisers. But it breaks down over time just from ambient heat like most polymers, becoming brittle due to lost cohesion.
The most important additive in this family of plastics is a flame retardant, but rumour has it, it has the propensity to accelerate polymer degradation.
Typical Christmas present of the 70s. It either broke by Christmas afternoon or didn't work at all.
At least the battery clip looked to be a clever design
Connector designed to avoid kids from shorting the terminals and sparks flying and battery bursting. Still risky exposed as a toy.
I wonder if anyone tried to order replacement tips for half a cent each, as the price list indicated (" .50¢ ").
5:12 Exactly, toss in a $5.00 bill in the order and indicate this is payment for 1,000 tips.
My dad had a work lantern that used 2 of those batteries. I used to "borrow" it at night and would read under the covers for hours. I don't think he ever discovered why the batteries didn't last long. I saw a couple of the new batteries at a store yesterday and they were $16.95 each!
That's expensive. Nowadays you can go online and get a lithium LFP rechargeable kit for $25. That's a much better value.
Thanks Fran I wish you a merry Christmas and a happy new year all the best from Scotland
Hey Peter! Thanks a ton for the support and best to you as well!
I'm thinking that the problem is not with the spin welder or the concept but the actual plastic. I mean that stuff's been sitting in a box for 50 years. So I don't know how many volatile organic compounds evaporated out of it or how much it oxidized I mean, we don't really even know what kind of plastic it is. But I'm guessing if you use that tool with some new like milk jug plastic it would work with no problem
I had a regular spinwelder as a kid and it was great. After I made the car in the kit I discovered it would also weld milk jug plastic and I made a DIY toy spaceship.
Today, you can friction weld your 3d printed cosplay pieces... you can even use the same type of rivet system to connect your 3d printed plastic pieces to fabric.
The transition to the Drill gave me a good laugh.
The idea of trying 3dprinted studs for easier to work with PLA comes to mind.. but if I was to bother printing it.. I might as well make it in a way not to need the spin welder. (ie pin that you tap together with a hammer)
No wonder it was only $1.50! I bet 70s parents were thrilled when their daughter butchered her sunday dress. 😆
The price for replacement parts indicates it was probably around $10, perhaps a little less, before being marked down several times.
@@SianaGearz And adjusted for inflation that makes a lot more sense. It's not like this was a high-tech item, just loads of injection-moulded plastics, cheap to produce in high volumes, and a small motor.
I had one of those spin welders. I loved it. I learned about friction, welding and plastic at the same time!
Omg, when you pulled out the DeWalt and chucked up the Spinwelder bit in it, LoL 😆
My sister grew up to be an engineer. There was nothing stopping girls from having the same toys as boys, or playing with their brothers' toys. It largely depends on the parents and their private attitudes. My dad was an engineer and had no problem with my sister getting "Meccano", the toy for building things. The most masculine toy she got was "Battle Wagon", a magnificent warship, she also got "Action Man" before I did ("GI Joe"). When she grew up she had a career in engineering, but eventually gave it up after she married and started to have children. This was her personal preference not the result of brainwashing.
Agreed and Thank You!
I had a similar toy when I was growing up in the 70ies-80ies. It was more of a construction set that had little spin rivets (marketed for boys). I really enjoyed making things with it but it stunk of burning plastic. It was like a plastic erector set. I remember it working better though...
I'm thoroughly surprised they didn't make the gun for the Lady Spinwelder in PINK instead of green. Maybe they weren't trying to market it, as hard as we all thought.
Yes. A Barbie crossover toy, and Mattel missed the boat. What was the marketing department thinking?
They were probably repurposing unsold ones so they were already green.
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That does seem more likely, although Mattel went to the expense of getting all the new boxes and instructions printing lines set up, along with the injection-moulding dies for the studs and the black tool/chuck, none of which would have been as cheap as just land-filling the unsold spin guns.
Yeah this gender stuff is so over rated , the first thing I bought my wife when I met her was a Bench Grinder . She was so happy about that.
I'm surprised there was no pink anywhere.
This is an almost 50 year old toy. Of course the materials have degraded to the point of not working correctly. Kudos to Mattel for trying to interest girls in something other than Barbies and Mystery Date. This was a gateway toy designed to get girls interested in materials science and fabrication.
Coolest part is the connector for the lantern battery. I've never seen one like that.
Loved my boys spinwelder, still remember laying a bead on my f15 jet
First you have to meet their felt needs before you can interest them in design engineering. This is a valid comparison to industrial processes. I didn't see you put a multi-meter on the battery. I wonder how dead it was.
What a great line - "Nothing says summer like spinwelding" We love you.
13:39 you pushing to hard on the drill and the supplied tool. Light pressure to start heating the plastic to deform it into a bucktail.
I remember having Spinwelder as a kid. And it worked pretty well as I recall. Now I might have to look on ebay for nostalgia's sake..
OMG Fran! I thought I was the ONLY person who ever got this as a gift! LOL! Hillarious! Thanks for taking me back in time to an awful gift from Aunt Esther...Gawd rest her soul! She ment well :) I laughed when you pulled out the drill. That is what we tried too :) Awwww memories! Try it with fabric! NOT FUN!
LOL I was just welding up some fashion yesterday. I made a friendship bracelet from some I-beams we had left over.
Does it chafe your wrist?
I remember back about 1982 someone gave my brother a Spinweld kit. Can't remember if it was a car or whatever, but we were too poor to afford a lantern battery for the welder. My brother had an unusual affinity for tape, so he decided to try and tape everything together. It didn't go well.
My mom bought me the spin welder for Xmas. I ended up starting Gucci. So not a failure!
Lady Spinwelder sounds like a character from an Edwardian drawing room comedy.
More tea, Lady Spinwelder?
Don't remember those but did have a foam cutter. It had a hot wire that you could use to cut up foam sheets or old food trays to make artworks out of. Probably good for 3rd degree finger burns too!
My family was poor so my sister and I didn't get too many of the really cool toys back then.
Mattel made a vacuum forming machine toy, that you could only imagine how dangerous it was with heating plastic over a form.
Plaster seems safe?
I had one, made all sorts of cowboys and Indians in those molds.
@@wayneessar7489 correction, plastic
Probably the plasticizers have evaporated over the 50-odd years this has been sitting "new in box", which seems to be the main killer of old plastic items, no just going brown as the mixed-in fire retardant oxidises. I'd guess that the functionality of the original spin-welder relied on the rivets being soft as well.
Ah plasticizers, we meet again. It's always annoying when migratory plasticizers ruin something. Often it occurs when you accidentally lay something silicone on something plastic, and the plastic melts. I ran into someone on a homebrewing channel that was wondering what the heck was happening when his plastic airlocks drooped over like a wilting flowers, then pulled apart like string cheese. My guess was plasticizer migration from the rubber bungs.
I wonder if the plastic is just so old it doesn't melt that well anymore. Glad I didn't get either spin welder kit as a kid. I got an erector set, and my favorite, a 300 in 1 electronics lab from Radio Shack.
I think the girl on the box is Kim Richards. She was in Escape to Witch Mountain and a 1976 episode of The Rockford Files called "The Family Hour." I received a spin welder for Christmas in the mid 70s. Worst toy ever. I couldn't get the tips to melt. They'd just break. And the kit didn't include enough spares to accommodate the learning curve. Had to send off for more, and then wait 6 weeks for another baggie of 20 tips to arrive in the mail.
I thought maybe Kathy Coleman from "The Land of the Lost" but I do recognize her.
Nany and the Professor too...
You are not suppose to press down hard. The spinning tip causes friction that melts the plastic. Pressing down hard stops the tool from spinning fast so it cannot melt the plastic.
Check voltage on lantern battery. They don't sell many of them any more, so freshness could be an issue. Could fresher plastic rivets have worked?
Lantern batteries are often built with D cells, and D cells are often built with AA batteries these days. I wouldn't doubt that huge thing is the equivalent to 4 AA batteries in series. I remember when Duracell and Energizer batteries were at their peak in the late 90s/early 2000s and went downhill from there. They were practically guaranteed to not leak, and they lasted. These days, they leak like sieves. I just buy the cheap batteries, anymore. They might actually be less likely to leak probably because they are weaker.
@@robertgaines-tulsaI haven't come across a modern D cell that is just a tarted up AA, they are still heavy full batteries.
Now I haven't taken apart a lantern battery in many years, but I would doubt that they use the big tall cells anymore, they probably aren't even manufactured... Probably just D cells in a plastic case.
@volvo09 AAs masquerading as Cs and Ds are common in rechargeables. It's too bad this toy didn't ask for the larger lantern battery, the one about the size of a recipe card box with threaded terminals on the top. The battery may be giving 6v and change, but that connector looks loose and lossy under load.
She stated in the video that she checked it and it was fresh and at 6.5V.
@@tactileslut yes, that is where I have seen them, but I've never seen it with an alkaline battery.
I don't understand why she always has to sneer at being a mother. Being a mother, making humans, and raising them is the most incredible thing there is. Being an engineer is something anyone can do. Engineering will probably be replaced by AI. Doctors can easily be replaced by AI for 99% of their work right now. Its only regulations keeping AI from replacing these jobs.
But being a mother is amazing and irreplaceable. Why denigrate it?
I dont think those "lantern batteries" contain four full-sized "F" cells anymore. It might be worth getting out *The Pliers of Inquiry* and making a video.
They don't. At least, not the one I 'anti-assembled' a few years ago. Four unclad zinc-carbon 'C' batteries inside.
Was making a Li-Ion 'replacement' version of a lantern battery, complete with built-in regulator and charge controller.
Was NOT as successful as I'd hoped...
Howdy Fran, I have been told that the Latern Battery has multiple C Batteries stacked inside now and you're not getting as much energy as you used to get. Perhaps disassemble yours if you hadn't done this before.
Believe it or not, I find that toys and clothes are divided far more sharply now and marketed to either girls or boys than companies did back in the 70s and 80s. Clothes for little girls especially, you see a lot of "Princess" stuff for girls and "Monster" stuff for boys, which is horrible when you think about it! When I went to buy sandals for my son around age 5, he only had a choice of two styles of sandals, whereas for girls there were several shelves filled with all different styles of sandals. I had my son in 1994 and my daughter in 2004 and it was very noticeable how very polarised the clothes and toy markets had become to target boys or girls specifically.
Look at Lego. In the 1970s it was mainly basic sets that both girls and boys could enjoy. Interestingly the company founder refused to produce green bricks as he didn't want Lego to be used to make military vehicles.
Now it is nearly all themed with Lego "Friends" for the girls and Lego "Enemies" also known as Star Wars or Ninjago for the boys.
I would say that given the age of that kit. the cheap plastic has lost its oils making it more brittle and less plyant, and the motor magnets have also lost their coercivity due to time, but I love your fix, Fran says "I think this needs more power" pulls out a DeWalt drill motor. Brilliant... 😆
I was expecting a 9v battery
WOW - brings back memories!!! I built them all!
Fran you take me back to my sister’s childhood. They would never let me do some welding 😊
lol... i built that dragster, thanks for the trip down memory lane. Merry Christmas
The MS paint Style Christmas intro is absolutely adorable. I love it
Loved the DeWalt upgrade! 😆
I think the girl on the box is Kim Richards from "Escape to Witch Mountain" and "Hello Larry". She's the sister of Kyle Richards and was also on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills for the first few seasons.
I had the boys one, and it was one of my favorite toys back then.
And the count shall be three and three shall be the count. Not two, except to immediately proceed to three. Four is right out.
Hahahahahahaaa 😂
Neat! I think i remember you talking about this device in an older video. Its nice to see the whole kit!
Also, maybe the plastic has just gotten brittle with age and is resistant to melting properly. Just a theory
This is awesome I would've loved this if I was a kid back then!
Ah the 70's, LOL.
I was an "even a 7 year old can do it" in the 1970s. I never saw a "spin welder" until today. Now I understand why.
I’ve never heard of welding boing in toy form. I wouldn’t mind learning how to weld no, but something like that, how do you fabricate cloth and felt without ruining the welding knife in the process lol. This is a new one on me lol.
There is a Lot of great Science in this toy you don't seem to recognize. As a kid, my spin welder worked great, and my sister Independently found creative ideas to use our spin welder for ART and decorating cloth. The foam you used doesn't have enough static friction to hold the studs. ME-Thinks You Complain too much, ..There are folks who follow directions, folks who write directions, and folks who Create and Inspire. But then I am just a physicist/ Neuroscientist with 35 years of STEAM Education and from a family of Luthiers who cut up perfectly good Gibson's to make them "better" and who was Inspired by the electronics of these toys....and my sister's Dumble....
what surface would you put the studs on - a tablecloth ?
ABSOLUTELY!! We had the tools! The 70's American Culture was different, by gosh we were encouraged to smoke(?)! My Mom taught us how to sew, and I learned the physics of a Singer Sewing machine, while the "Non-Testosterone poisoned" members of our family made creative stylistic clothes from sewing patterns ordered from Sears and advanced sewing skills! Compare a Singer Sewing Machine to a Lathe with a Taper attachment! We "uglified" many cloth based garments. @@highpath4776
Even back then, they were trying to teach little girls how to handle studs....
Thanks for video i liked seeing toys from time past
I wonder if the rivets would perform normally if run through a dehydrator. It might help to remove the water and anneal the plastic, based on what I've learned from 3D printing.
Talk about a blast from the past. I had the helicopter kit. The main rotor was rubberband-powered. Unfortunately, the structure couldn't withstand the pull of the rubberband and broke every time I tried to wind up the rotor. :(
For the young ladies, does it come with
a stud finder?😅
Id never heard of a spin welder before. Cool
1:00 - Immediate complaint: crappy grammar by saying “with ‘bout a thousand studs”. Two prepositions in a row and unnecessary word contraction.
Oh, go diagram some more sentences...
Loved my spinwelder, I always thought at some point they would release a retro version.
I loved when you came back with the Dewalt Spin Welder. Lol
The girl on the cover kind of reminds me of the girl from "Return from Witch Mountain" in 1978.
We got these for the kids. They were great fun!
Tammy, it looks like this lady spin welder was a lot more complicated than my boy version
last time I bought a brand new lantern battery, it was dead. Same with the other two I bought before it. I decided to tear it down since it's just a bunch of cells inside the package and the damn thing was just riddled with corrosion from all the cells leaking inside what looked like a nice clean battery. I wonder how many of these batteries are rattling around on store shelves in similar condition.
Vielen Dank für die vielen tollen Videos. :) Ein schönes Weihnachtsfest Ihnen! :)
Viele Grüße aus Deutschland :)
Famous Groucho Marx reply: "go out and find me a 7 year old. I can't make heads or tails of this"
Groucho was a genius.
I've never heard of spinwelding. Will have to do a search on it. Did you notice the typo? Smoth instead of smooth :)
I had this toy as a kid. I could not get to weld isht! I was pissed! Lol!
I would end up melting the girders making it worthless to build any of the vehicles.
This is hilarious. I would have more enjoyed a toy that taught actual welding. Your videos are a joy to watch, Fran!
It is very sad to see that children’s products. These days are so much more dummed down than products used to be. It’s like they have no expectation for children being smart anymore😢
The apron pattern is a nice touch. It's like, hey, we'll let you bedazzle, but don't forget your place is the kitcheennnn!
Instead of getting worked up about reading between lines that are not there, try thinking about it like boys had the short end of the stick.
Anyone could get the original version, but those who identified as girls had more options.
When I was little i not only enjoyed getting oily in the shop where my father worked, i loved baking with my mother, and even sewing with the lady’s who would babysit. Today i work on engines, cook food, and have two machines for working leather or fixing my flannels.
I know, its a weird way to think and not “correct” by todays standards.
I wanted one of these so badly! Mom didn’t buy into it. Happy to see she saved $1.50 and I avoided a huge disappointment!😁
Watch Apollo 8 reach the moon, while the girls play with the Spinwelder. That was the world I remember 'bout 50 years ago...yessir !
Merry Christmas have a happy and safe holidays.
Hii , Happy new year , first video from Fran I watch was one using one... spining tool to solder two plastic pieces, I was reading about 3d printing and found a comment where they recommend the video
I get what you are trying to say but come on let's be real, they're in business to SELL products. Most, nearly ALL 11 year old girls actually want to make fun unique jewelry and stuff like that. They would have zero interest in boy stuff like welding metal, Lincoln Logs, etc.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 This is especially funny to me because I was born in 1964, I am the daughter of a diesel mechanic/welder and I am a retired fitter/welder. I was more of a help my Dad in the garage type girl, than a daytime soap watching fashion girl! 😂
If girls were engineer-minded, they would have probably just bought the kit marketed towards the boys. Fact is, Mattel marketed this line of toy to what the majority of girls of the time found interesting to them. They probably even did some market research before the production phase. They probably should have invested more into product development. LOL
As the battery goes individually packed batteries are shrink wrapped to protect the labels. Most of those labels are required for sale so if they get damaged the battery cannot be legally sold. Its cheaper to shrink wrap them to protect the labels than deal with returned stock.
Complaining about battery spring covers? I suspect some people gripe qbout everything.
I had almost forgotten spinwelding. Plastic over time absorbs moisture and becomes brittle and doesn't melt as easily. Something I learned from 3D printing.
I never saw Spinwelder as a child.
I do remember other "DIY" child things.
My (I forgot now if it was my parents or grandparents) bought me a "you build it" Grandfather Clock kit.
It was fun i still remember gluing the wood pieces together and using it after, (& it kept time)
I learned to adjust the pendulum to advance or retard the timing.
I didn't get many toys as a kid, (and my friends broke most of them after Christmas) but because I had to do the work, it was much more memorable over the pre made stuff.
Girls trying to get in touch with the older generation, Rosie the Riveter....lol
The precursor to the Bedazzler. $1.50 in the 70s was a decent chunk of allowance for the time.
Nice videos as always Fran thanks
I agree with your analysis of the plastic. There were probably some volatile elements in the plastic that have evaporated over the last 50 years. With that said, I remember 1960s and 1970s toys. There were metal toys, wooden toys, and plastic toys.
The metal toys were borderline lethal. Kids born in the 1950s were taught to live with danger and to walk off pain. Those skills were honed with the metal toys.
The wooden toys usually cracked on the first day of use if they were not already cracked when they were still new. You would play with them for a few minutes. Then you spent the next two days gluing and nailing them back together with little brads. I did learn some very useful woodworking skills, especially how to glue up wood with Elmer's white glue. I got good at making clamps by wrapping the thing in rope and then twisting the rope. My dad brought home boxes of brads every time he went to the hardware store because I went through so many of them. Within a few months, different elements of various toys would be combined into a Frankentoy.
Plastic toys were junk. Just junk. The plastics were bad. They were almost all just hard, brittle plastic made as thinly as possible. They could be repaired as well. We didn't have modern glues, but I would melt the cracks back together with a big soldering iron that I probably ruined in the process.