ZOS says they've been listening to feedback. Apparently, they got the feedback from the same place they got the idea to change Stalking Blastbones to Gravelord's Sacrifice.
ESO pvp designer....I want that job. Work hard, release game, release bg's 4 years later, take 6 years off, ignore pvp community, release bg update that no one wants, wait another 4-6 years
Yeah when I heard that announced on stream I felt a sinking feeling in my stomach 😓 ESO already receives a lot of (very fair) criticism for its unsavory monetization practices, and this feels like another step in the wrong direction.
I'm fine with having companions available in crown store, as long as they would have stayed included in expansions as well. So you could choose if you like to have the whole chapter or just the the companions. This should be done with all companions then. That would of course require to move the quest lines from the chapter to base game.
@@samuraichicken2315 Antiquities were always locked behind paywalls, whether the system itself requiring Greymoor, requiring DLC zone or dungeon access to get the leads, or needing to access the zone where they can be dug up. Leads dropping for you that require a DLC purchase to actually dig up were always a form of in-game marketing imo
Honestly, im quite pissed about paid companions. I dont care about them but the fact that they reward you account upgrades and grant you achievements (which is a double kick in the nuts as an achievement hunter) strays the crown store away from its "cosmetic" point
@@repomang bro that's offtopic as hell. I said I'm disappointed about one side of the game. It's called constrictive criticism. Sharing an opinion so they know that the system they've done to companions is not good.
@@drackar yeah but they're at least behind DLCs. I can't wait to know the pricing for them (and if they're permanently free for ESO+ users or not as that may also be a big factor)
@@gor2944 yeah. Pricing dictates a lot on if this is a positive or negative change. Given the price of story DLC with companions, in crowns, is 3500, and you get two companions with that DLC. 500 or so crowns would be fair. I could see a 1000 and it not being unreasonable. Anyone, playing the game, could get that from a gold trader. If it's 5k like assistants? Yeah, I'm right there with ya'll with the pitchforks and torches.
I think 8v8s will be too uncoordinated for that to happen seeing as ballgroups require a LOT of precision and coordination. Only up to 4 people can queue into them together iirc.
I'm pretty sure they people mad that cyro didn't get an update more often than not don't want Cyro updates, but want general pvp balance updates. Most comments I see regarding cyro is like "nerf cross healing, nerf Magsorc, buff templar and necro, nerf procs" they're all generally balancing requests, but not actual updates to Cyro game mode. Which IMO it's not worth wasting an entire quarter just for balance changes, they can do both at the same time.
Yeah to be fair, the devs probably(?) wouldn't start yapping about balance changes on stream because that would be kinda boring to a lot of the peeps in the chat; they'd probably wanna stick to just showing off the new stuff for the purpose of the reveal stream. We may receive some news about pvp balance changes once the patch notes drop 🤞Hopefully lol
thank you for featuring my comment in the video! i've been locked in with housing & pve recently, but the new maps might entice me to update my pvp builds and try battlegrounds again...
Forreal, BG’s are lame. Cyrodiil is always pop locked every week meanwhile you can’t even queue for a BG bc nobody plays them! Zos should’ve at least acknowledged they were working on a Cyrodiil update. Their lack of communication has been a huge point of contention with the community for years!
@@Fazuchon it’s only a horse simulator if you keep dying so don’t out yourself for all of RUclips to know. If you don’t die as much you can run with a Zerg and use transit in keeps 🙂 not sure if you knew that. Btw there’s nothing but sweaty 4 stacks with meta gear loadouts waiting for you in BG’s.
@@Sniperjones_007 It's still horse sim even if you're good lol, fights can end faster than it takes for you to ride there, you can ride to a fight just for it to be over by the time it ends. Don't pretend cyro's map isn't massive for how many people there is.Thats especially true when 1 faction has higher population. So Idk what you mean by that
Nobody even mentions that IC is pretty much always dead? And that +10% gains with ESO+ sub is entering the grey area of p2w. Though I understand why. As a IC pvp main, there was no need to purchase eso+ for me at all. I don't care about DLC dungeons or crafting bag, i'm just farming kills and tel var. Still I don't mind there being new BGs, but why did they have to remove old ones? 3-way battlegrounds is what i found to be unique in pvp when compared to other MMOs that I played. If having separate queues is the issue, well they're implementing ranked and casual queues as separate anyway. Why not just leave the old BGs for casual play? We're not getting more PvP content, we're getting LESS PvP content - 8 old areas removed, 7 new.
ESO lost me and my wife with the monetization over the years also my brother too so i can only imagine how many players are in the same boat , i love this game but monetization has killed it .
These tanky builds really need some nerfs, high level PVP is just immortal gods smacking each other till one side makes a mistake, just a bad experience all around
One idea I always thought eso needs for pvp only is a mega nerf on hp recovery, healing sickness debuff (if you get healed from more then sources all healing received is reduced by 33% or something like that) A dmg and cc resist debuff depending on how many allies players are around you. That’s all stuff a game that focuses on Zerg v Zerg fights with like 300v300 battles has implemented (All tho the player number debuff should be bigger) Albion online.
I like battlegrounds far better than cyro. That being said, the perilous capture points make me think javelin on templar might actually be worth slotting.
I wish they would add a Furnishing browser where I can see all the furnishing I can craft or acquire, and their sources. It's messy even with third party addons/sites.
Arttea is my spirit Bosmer. We need a petition to ZOS to have Artemis as an Imperial-Bosmer Spinner companion, voiced as none-other-than.... Artemis would have two passives for in-the-wild guild trading and drip changes. High rapport will come from posting high value items in guild traders and changing outfits. Y'ffre save the Queen of Sass and Snark!
Still no love for the Bosmer. Gold Road gave one motif and a few furnishings, but Bosmer remain the least respected race by devs in Tamriel. Now I am a Khajiit main and we get a lot of love, but I have to wonder why there is a second Khajiit companion. Khajiit x 2 Dunmer x 1 Imperial x 1 Breton x 1 Red Guard x 1 Argonian x 1 Altmer x 1 Bosmer x 0 Osimer x 0 Nord x 0 Since my second favorite character is Bosmer I feel your lack of Bosmer stuff pain.
I really like your style of editing and you seem to have a level-headed opinion towards the game in general which is needed when you get presented with companions in the crown store.
I think the 8v8 will be lots of fun, And since I mostly solo queue for BGs when I do feel like it, I think it'll be nice to have less individual pressure and those Chaos Ball transformations actually look hilarious. Hopefully they do something about matchmaking, because I've found if I queue with friends, they throw you against whatever other play stack is also queued so more often than not if I'm just trying to have a few fun rounds with pals who aren't huge into PVP it's often getting matched against high ranked players who play BGs a lot, which ends up being kind of one-sided a lot of the times. I kind of feel like ESO's starting to go down a pretty sketchy slope lately; there's no longer Q3 dungeons and Q4 story zones, and I don't feel like what's replaced them is worth it. The quality of the annual chapters doesn't feel more expansive and fulfilling than prior years. Cyrodiil isn't really ever looked at, and it feels like ZOS' only form of balance is introducing new sets that sometimes end up making things worse. Companions being locked into the Crown store is kind of unnerving, and I generally feel like we're getting less meaningful content and less to show for it. Cool, we have skill styles now... What about places to use them? More giant houses and not enough furnishing slots to try and do anything meaningful with them. I let my ESO+ lapse and I kind of don't see the need to re-up it until I amass enough furniture to work on my houses. Depending on the location and theme, I might not even get the new Chapter when it launches. Also the very recent chat monitoring AI that's been flagging people for cursing or ERPing in an M-rated game and banning or suspending accounts for things whispered in private or group chats with consenting parties is a huge red flag. I don't know what the hell ZOS is doing lately, but they're going to start hemorrhaging players if they're not smart about it.
In an ideal world the two new companions will be in a bundle for 1500 crowns, the amount you get with your ESO+ sub, but in reality they're probably gonna be separate
Ah dang. Hopefully the more casual 8v8 mode will prove to still be enjoyable for you and allow you the legroom to make mistakes from time to time seeing as your team size is larger and the maps will let you dip in an out of combat a bit easier.
Selling companions in a crown store separately from the chapter is something i expected from Fallout 76 but not from eso. Feels like massive fuck you to everyone who dosnt have eso+ but paid full price for Gold Road. Whats next? Selling access to public dungeons? Pay for side quests?
The majority of regular PvP players are complaining because this update is meant to force some players into a dead content (BG), while ZOS keep neglecting the content that we do play (Grayhost). When you consider the update along the current state of the combat balance (looking at you hardened ward sorc and nbs), tank healing meta and in combat bug, you will see how far the devs are from the pvp players. Devs have abandoned the pvpers and the updates shows it badly.
I hope that when the patch notes drop we will see that some much-needed balance changes and bug fixes have been made. I don't see why we can't receive some refurbished BG content and some balance changes in the same update, so I'll hold off on my disappointment until those patch notes drop ;p
The constant magsorc and nb whining kind of gets old at this point. 2 classes that are high skill high reward, unlike Templar, dk, warden w I finite heals and resistances nb and sorc got mobility and yeah the stealth (which can be countered w stealth detect pots, and mage light, and revealing flare) and yeah hardened ward has a ti y heal on it now but it has ALWAYS been like this, and I remember before that little healing got added to ward (which btw it’s expensive) magsorc was considered one of the worst classes for pvp. So yeah 2 classes that are good dealing damage and have different ways of survival rather than a million hots and burst heals is kind of nice, specially in a meta where everyone is a tank cause everyone is afraid to die. All clases are op therefore the game is balanced, nb and sorc requiere skill to pull out the shit they do
@@TheJoker-cz2rc i couldnt care less tbh, since I mostly run in ballgroups. I am explaining what is the general feeling among regulars and what have been asked for versus the last updates.
@TheJoker-cz2rc you are comparing 1 button impossible to die to a defensive rotation impossible to die? No class should be able to just not be able to do die (looking at sorc nb and high hp arc & warden)
What a damn disaster. They made us excited with "PVP FEATURE" update after 6 years of nothing and all they do is remove one team from PVP. Idiots run this game. Period.
I've seen a lot of people have this take. If you caught the live stream or watched the 8 minute segment of this recap vid that covered the BG changes and genuinely believe that the *only* thing that we're getting is that there is one less team in BG matches, then I don't think there is anything that the devs could do to appease likeminded peeps. They will always find something to be dissatisfied about. I am with you on the whole waiting 6 years thing though - I do wish the PVP side of things received the attention that it deserves.
@@Arttea I have to disagree with you. Few more maps, few sets, and powerups in BGs. Is that what they were working on for the past 6 years? We're not hard to please, but this update is what other games do in a monthly update. A slight rework of Cyrodil and Imperial city would already be a good start. There's so many ways they can refresh and improve it, but they simply don't care. It's really not that hard. I wonder if you'd be saying the same, if after 6 years of no updates to PVE content, they'd release 6 sets, shrink dungeon group to 3 people, and call it a FEATURE. You're being way too generous with them, and that's why they're getting away with it.
Mom I'm famous, I'm in an Arttea video! ;D I didn't have time to catch the stream, so this was a really helpful breakdown. Made only more entertaining by your editing and commentary. :) Yeah, in the end, it's about taste, or personal preference. Although I must say, they sold the new maps, with their more organic and less arena-like contrived layout, really well.
Zos says they’re listening to feedback, but I have literally never seen anyone ask or comment on battlegrounds, it’s always about cyro. Feels like they’re trying to kill cyro. They’re losing players by ignoring the vet pvpers
I guess it just comes down to where you are looking. I've seen a lot of folks ask for BGs to receive a rework - if you check the forums, a lot of the PVP regulars who articulate their concerns about PVP (beyond just BGs, but things like performance and balance issues) are really* into BGs as well.
As someone who heavily PvP’d mostly in cyro for 4+ years, I’m looking forward to this update. I’ve only came back to eso for PvP events over the last two years. Coming back to a more casual no mmr 8v8 sounds fun af. Jumping in to cyro after so much time off and my balls stick to my gamer chair within 30 seconds. Such a sweat fest in there these days.
0:01 i can agree with this opinion.The matchmaking system for PvP in eso is just a kinda joke.I did not enjoy playing garbage maps and getting clapped just for 1 team to win just a match which brings some unnessesary amount of AP anyway.I would rather spend that time in Cyrodiil and camp def combos instead of doing this shit BGs.
2 new companions for ESO + or paid for crowns.This is piece of shit for how they would add something to the game if i had to pay for.I guess zos missing times when ppl were buying new zone DLCs.....
Why doesn't group queue work for me and my buddies when we are trying to do group bgs? I can barely get them to play the game anymore because of that issue.
@@papasquatch2432 what issue are you having? Group queue should be working fine, although*, queue times for group BGs are quite long, especially if you and your buddies all have varying MMRs.
@@Xylluk ofc! I wanted to use a nice photo of Sharp and I immediately thought of you and all the really nice pics you post of him and your characters on twitter!
Did you say THREE chaos balls? In the one match?! My back hurts already. I'm torn on the 'chaos' factor of picking up the ball, but that's probably because I'm part of the troll-warden problem with that game mode. Once I get the ball, that's it; we're winning. That was probably a smart move on the devs' part. RIP trading and all hail the new BG meta. As always, thanks for summing this up for those of us who never watch the streams.
I think the only time I'll be returning to this game is when they update the animations. Like dude, 2:35 what is that? 😭 I still love this game though. Thanks for the recap!
Honestly the update is looking way more exciting then expected. I personally like the idea of having leads in IC on a rotating vendor. Would literally make me play pvp more than I normally would. I hope it isn't just for mythic items. If they could include 1 or 2 leads outside of mythic items (especially for the ones like Khenarthi's sweet song and cat's eye where the leads are extremely hard to get) for purchase. They could put some leads in the battlegrounds vendor for alliance points if we wanted to separate the two but all in all I prefer doing pvp matches over endlessly grinding random things in a zone for 2 to 5 hours for a single drop. Stupid codex entries. XD
I quit the game 2 years ago because the refused the last update for my main content, cyro, that also took like 4 years to develop, was destroyable bridges
Yessss I'm actually pretty stoked for those! I'll definitely be queueing into the competitive 4v4 mode when I'm playing solo but the 8v8 mode *sounds perfect for battlegrounds event nights with my guild!!
Gut wrenching disappointment in the entirety of this update. We have been capturing keeps for 10 years on the same map bar, a few new outposts, and milegates. Zos is completely out of touch with its audience. The companions are trash, too, both of them. The majority of people wanted different races that haven't been done yet, like nord
I hardly ever go on the forums so I have no idea about a lot of things that the fans are talking about so I really wonder who asked for 2 team battlegrounds? Was this something that was asked for in 2015?
It's coming up regularly on the topic of Battlegrounds, usually with a comparison with other games. Not necessarily as a majority consensus, but someone will eventually mention it.
ESO Xbox player for 5 years, and I have been happy with all recent updates and changes. BG is my favorite because Cyradill is laggy as hell on xbox, but I do like Imperial City pvp. I think the new 4x4 & 8x8 modes look fun & I will spend a lot of time in both modes, lol.. as far as paying for companions, well I use mine on every character because I solo 95% of the time, so I won't mind paying for them as I'm also an ESO plus player & as long as they ain't like $20 a companion, which is probably what it'll be, 😂😂😂😂.
To be fair, the devs did actually take a moment in the stream to say that they saw all of the angry cries about cyrodiil and that they hear where these people are coming from but that at *this* moment, the topic of the stream is the new BG update. I do hope the update goes over well with players - if it does and PVP becomes more popular, this could encourage the devs to continue to put their resources into more frequent pvp updates. Because, I'm with you man, Cyro does need a lot of love, especially when it comes to sorting out bugs and performance issues
ZoS doesn't feel much patience to PvP. Waiting 7 years for BG update feels like it was enough time of preparation for them. For Cyrodiil fix was waiting for 5 years but still even can hear some noises about being laggy again.
Why can't we just choose which battleground we want to do? We have choice when it comes to dungeons, random or specific, this is not difficult to implement.
We used to be able to, but queue times became incredibly long, unfortunately. If battlegrounds were ever to become super popular again, perhaps being able to choose our game mode would return as an option.
@@Arttea Or, they could allow us to choose and then that way they can see which battlegrounds are popular and tweak the ones that aren't. It's called game development, you know the thing "devs" are supposed to be doing. Also, random dungeons have long queues for dps, choosing specific dungeons is even worse when it comes to queues, the system should still be available regardless.
Oh man, I have some bad news for ya I have accepted sponsorships from ZOS/Bethesda in the past to showcase new content and the like (no reviews, since you legally can't do that), but I always disclose that those vids are sponsored right away (again, I legally have to). So this vid isn't sponsored at all. Anyways, just thought I would clear that up; in all fairness, the sponsorships help pay the bills so that I can keep making these videos and I would argue that the integrity of my content isn't compromised since those sponsored vids are always objective in nature anyways.
I appreciate the attempt by Zos. But they just don’t listen to the right people about pvp. When I seen ninetails on the live I said to myself “that’s…. concerning, where is painintheaxe?”
@@grooviedrewbie3843 pain is pretty stoked for this BG update! I’m in a discord server with a bunch of creators (including pain) and devs and he wrote quite a bit about how he’s pumped for the new content.
A brand new custom what? "Forage"? Really though, RIP two more trade routes, one high value, and one high volume. They need to do something on the other end...I know more than one trader that's folded because of these changes making it just not viable, at all. I've heard of a few others where guild leaders are dumping a thousand plus a month into the game to keep their guilds afloat, non sustainable at best. As for companions... On one hand, locking companions to the store is a pain, but functionally all other companions are also locked behind a crown or cash purchase. It's just a different route to the same destination, and there's an argument to be made that this system is better, depending on your point of view. ESO+ or 3,500 crowns per pair of companions. Blackwood, high isle, Necrom, 3,500 crowns a pop... Accept, with all three of those, those companions were not available with ESO+ OR crowns. They were Cash only. For a year. You could not obtain those companions for the first year via gold from crown sellers. Now, you can. When these companions drop, a person will be able to unlock them day one via a crown seller, without spending any real world money on ESO+ or on the current cash only DLC zone. And people who maintain ESO+ but are a year behind everyone else in content because they refuse to buy DLC as it comes out will also be ahead with these companions compared to every other set of companions. The crown PRICE will dictate a lot. Every other companion was _part_ of a 3,500 crown "bundle" of an entire DLC. So provided they are available for a reasonable price, say 500 crowns? It's a better system, for players, legitimately. Anyone in even a low end trader will be able to save up and get a companion in very short order. If they cost the 5k of a non-sale banker or rag picker or other assistant? Obviously this logic doesn't fly and fire the person who made this decision.
@@drackar ah my bad, I thought when you asked about it in your previous message it was because you didn’t understand what I had said and needed clarification. I didn’t know that you were just making fun of the way I speak my second language
This would have all made sense if they didnt abandon BGs over 4 years ago. Now it feels random and unnecessary. ZOS really has no idea what they are doing anymore.
I saw your Amsterdam video, it was beautiful. I stopped eso because i got to sweaty at pvp and quickly lost everything in life, dropping out of university my last semester, losing my serious irl relationship for a guild relationship because she hated i gamed so much with a strange women online, lost my job, gained weight and lost the fit swimmer body i had for a dad bod, and was constantly at edge of homeless after.... all so i could slay noobs in pvp 😁 Seeing you have fun in Amsterdam made it seem finally normal, and like something healthy for once. Please do more trips/ vlogs, your adventures out and about looked so fun, and your actually a good looking women! I honestly thought you were a 300lb whale 🐋 You have a good chance at getting married, if you take it. Cheers
@@oscarbear7498 what pvping does to a mf 😩 (Glad you liked the vlog! Any time I hit up an ESO event I’ll be sure to bring you all along by vlogging it)
This entire BGS vs Cyro doesn't make sense to me. The person you mention in the video while allowed to have their perspective and opinions is wrong for saying BGS are pointless. Outside of the bonus XP they used to give may have been an accurate assumption but this change ushers in a competitive environment where if they reward you well enough has a purpose now. I understand the frustration of Cyrodil players but objectively speaking Cyrodil has very little PVP aspects that make it feel rewarding or strategic. The fact I have to run for ages to find a fight on a mount itself is super tedious. Only to be faced with Meta slaves and ball groups. Now is that point being made to not update Cyrodil? No. But Cyrodil players were never expressed to have this update directly to them so downplaying the effectiveness of this update because it wasn't the mode of your choice is super disingenuous. There is this huge false consensus effect within ESO in all corners of the sub cultures within this world where they think because they hyper focus on Cyrodil and engage with players who do so that its the only experience every other player adheres to when simply this is not the case. People play BGS, my 2 guilds are thrilled and so am I. People want a instanced queue where you can play via skill and coordination not run for hours to find something only to do it over and over again when you get stealth killed or rolled by a ball group and then have to do mount simulator again. Thats why many competitive games survive for years and years. Again, in an ideal world both would get love but dont disparage people who like BGS or the game mode itself because it wasn't what you wanted.
ZOS says they've been listening to feedback. Apparently, they got the feedback from the same place they got the idea to change Stalking Blastbones to Gravelord's Sacrifice.
RIP the Goat
Must of been from the guy that said please add a card game
their ass?
Real af
Lmao fr
ESO pvp designer....I want that job. Work hard, release game, release bg's 4 years later, take 6 years off, ignore pvp community, release bg update that no one wants, wait another 4-6 years
haha, yeah... I also thought: where have these guys been in the last 10 years and what the hell have they worked on ?^^
That guy is a dick.
Next chapter wayshrines will be crown crate only.
@@imperialsect4257
Your editing is freaking awesome
Thanks 😄
It's been years since I booted ESO, I am just watching for the laughs
paying for compainions not in dlc drops? wtf is happening to this game thats actually a scary sign lmao
Yeah when I heard that announced on stream I felt a sinking feeling in my stomach 😓 ESO already receives a lot of (very fair) criticism for its unsavory monetization practices, and this feels like another step in the wrong direction.
Monetization kills gaming.Not just ESO
@@Arttea Wait until new antiquities require ESO+.
I'm fine with having companions available in crown store, as long as they would have stayed included in expansions as well. So you could choose if you like to have the whole chapter or just the the companions. This should be done with all companions then. That would of course require to move the quest lines from the chapter to base game.
@@samuraichicken2315 Antiquities were always locked behind paywalls, whether the system itself requiring Greymoor, requiring DLC zone or dungeon access to get the leads, or needing to access the zone where they can be dug up. Leads dropping for you that require a DLC purchase to actually dig up were always a form of in-game marketing imo
Yo why we get 2 khajiit companions? Where is my wood elf waifu???? 😅
ugh right???
Another insidious plot of the Furry Cabal, that's the answer.
Where my Orc or Nord mommy?
I would've loved a Wood Elf or Orc companion instead of another Khajiit, but I still like the Khajiit.
Orc necro could be looking nice especially as you've been playing Elsweyr chapter's storyline
Yes for both!
Honestly, im quite pissed about paid companions. I dont care about them but the fact that they reward you account upgrades and grant you achievements (which is a double kick in the nuts as an achievement hunter) strays the crown store away from its "cosmetic" point
Oh well, it’s just a video game. Stop playing if you don’t like it🤷♂️
@@repomang bro that's offtopic as hell. I said I'm disappointed about one side of the game. It's called constrictive criticism. Sharing an opinion so they know that the system they've done to companions is not good.
Every other companion is paid, though.
@@drackar yeah but they're at least behind DLCs. I can't wait to know the pricing for them (and if they're permanently free for ESO+ users or not as that may also be a big factor)
@@gor2944 yeah. Pricing dictates a lot on if this is a positive or negative change. Given the price of story DLC with companions, in crowns, is 3500, and you get two companions with that DLC. 500 or so crowns would be fair. I could see a 1000 and it not being unreasonable. Anyone, playing the game, could get that from a gold trader.
If it's 5k like assistants? Yeah, I'm right there with ya'll with the pitchforks and torches.
Big RiP to my stormlord brothers
Can't wait for entry level 8v8 turn into ball groups running through people.
I think 8v8s will be too uncoordinated for that to happen seeing as ballgroups require a LOT of precision and coordination. Only up to 4 people can queue into them together iirc.
I'm pretty sure they people mad that cyro didn't get an update more often than not don't want Cyro updates, but want general pvp balance updates. Most comments I see regarding cyro is like "nerf cross healing, nerf Magsorc, buff templar and necro, nerf procs" they're all generally balancing requests, but not actual updates to Cyro game mode.
Which IMO it's not worth wasting an entire quarter just for balance changes, they can do both at the same time.
Yeah to be fair, the devs probably(?) wouldn't start yapping about balance changes on stream because that would be kinda boring to a lot of the peeps in the chat; they'd probably wanna stick to just showing off the new stuff for the purpose of the reveal stream. We may receive some news about pvp balance changes once the patch notes drop 🤞Hopefully lol
very informative, nice editing, solid vid. and thanks for including me in ur BG footage :)
Thanks gamer 🙏 I know I can count on getting some nice BG broll for vids when you’re on my team and nuking people 🔥
thank you for featuring my comment in the video! i've been locked in with housing & pve recently, but the new maps might entice me to update my pvp builds and try battlegrounds again...
At this point in time its about time we stop blaming the Devs and start blaming the stream team content creators at this point
damn bruh what tf did they do? 😭
@Arttea lol not you 🤣 you are amazing and make me lots of gold with all those guides you have for true end game... housing
Your info vids are so well done. I can easily listen to you yap from start to finish.
Thank you!
Forreal, BG’s are lame. Cyrodiil is always pop locked every week meanwhile you can’t even queue for a BG bc nobody plays them! Zos should’ve at least acknowledged they were working on a Cyrodiil update. Their lack of communication has been a huge point of contention with the community for years!
Not everyone wants to play horse simulator, so many pvp players prefer BG's. I usually wait around 5-10 minutes in evening to jump in to BG's.
@@Fazuchon it’s only a horse simulator if you keep dying so don’t out yourself for all of RUclips to know. If you don’t die as much you can run with a Zerg and use transit in keeps 🙂 not sure if you knew that. Btw there’s nothing but sweaty 4 stacks with meta gear loadouts waiting for you in BG’s.
@@Sniperjones_007 It's still horse sim even if you're good lol, fights can end faster than it takes for you to ride there, you can ride to a fight just for it to be over by the time it ends. Don't pretend cyro's map isn't massive for how many people there is.Thats especially true when 1 faction has higher population. So Idk what you mean by that
BGs are like 5 min ques on NA and cyrodil is jsut an unbalanced mess of zero even battles.
Nobody even mentions that IC is pretty much always dead? And that +10% gains with ESO+ sub is entering the grey area of p2w. Though I understand why. As a IC pvp main, there was no need to purchase eso+ for me at all. I don't care about DLC dungeons or crafting bag, i'm just farming kills and tel var.
Still I don't mind there being new BGs, but why did they have to remove old ones? 3-way battlegrounds is what i found to be unique in pvp when compared to other MMOs that I played. If having separate queues is the issue, well they're implementing ranked and casual queues as separate anyway. Why not just leave the old BGs for casual play? We're not getting more PvP content, we're getting LESS PvP content - 8 old areas removed, 7 new.
We really got ESO PvP update before GTA 6
ESO lost me and my wife with the monetization over the years also my brother too so i can only imagine how many players are in the same boat , i love this game but monetization has killed it .
A very expensive game considering the age and what it offers
These tanky builds really need some nerfs, high level PVP is just immortal gods smacking each other till one side makes a mistake, just a bad experience all around
One idea I always thought eso needs for pvp only is a mega nerf on hp recovery, healing sickness debuff (if you get healed from more then sources all healing received is reduced by 33% or something like that)
A dmg and cc resist debuff depending on how many allies players are around you.
That’s all stuff a game that focuses on Zerg v Zerg fights with like 300v300 battles has implemented (All tho the player number debuff should be bigger)
Albion online.
Can ZoS just stop with mementos already does anyone even use these?
I'm kinda with you on that. I find myself using emotes way more often than I use mementos.
They will introduce random dungeon puzzles that can only be solved with mementos and emotes.
Why even remove the Stormlords? Lmao just make the game pick 2 teams at random at the beginning of the match and thats it
I like battlegrounds far better than cyro. That being said, the perilous capture points make me think javelin on templar might actually be worth slotting.
Wish they would curate furnishing plans and enough of the 50th version of giant book shelf!!! Weapons and armor to put in our housing builds!!!
I wish they would add a Furnishing browser where I can see all the furnishing I can craft or acquire, and their sources. It's messy even with third party addons/sites.
Arttea is my spirit Bosmer.
We need a petition to ZOS to have Artemis as an Imperial-Bosmer Spinner companion, voiced as none-other-than....
Artemis would have two passives for in-the-wild guild trading and drip changes.
High rapport will come from posting high value items in guild traders and changing outfits.
Y'ffre save the Queen of Sass and Snark!
I love that 💛
Your editing is Aedra tier❤
That is so kind, ty 🙏💛
Still no love for the Bosmer. Gold Road gave one motif and a few furnishings, but Bosmer remain the least respected race by devs in Tamriel.
Now I am a Khajiit main and we get a lot of love, but I have to wonder why there is a second Khajiit companion.
Khajiit x 2
Dunmer x 1
Imperial x 1
Breton x 1
Red Guard x 1
Argonian x 1
Altmer x 1
Bosmer x 0
Osimer x 0
Nord x 0
Since my second favorite character is Bosmer I feel your lack of Bosmer stuff pain.
I think skyrim still has a few parts of the region not released yet. My guess is for sure a Nord and probably an orc.
I really like your style of editing and you seem to have a level-headed opinion towards the game in general which is needed when you get presented with companions in the crown store.
Ah yes, Banner Bearer...the perfect answer to ball groups.
I think the 8v8 will be lots of fun, And since I mostly solo queue for BGs when I do feel like it, I think it'll be nice to have less individual pressure and those Chaos Ball transformations actually look hilarious. Hopefully they do something about matchmaking, because I've found if I queue with friends, they throw you against whatever other play stack is also queued so more often than not if I'm just trying to have a few fun rounds with pals who aren't huge into PVP it's often getting matched against high ranked players who play BGs a lot, which ends up being kind of one-sided a lot of the times.
I kind of feel like ESO's starting to go down a pretty sketchy slope lately; there's no longer Q3 dungeons and Q4 story zones, and I don't feel like what's replaced them is worth it. The quality of the annual chapters doesn't feel more expansive and fulfilling than prior years. Cyrodiil isn't really ever looked at, and it feels like ZOS' only form of balance is introducing new sets that sometimes end up making things worse. Companions being locked into the Crown store is kind of unnerving, and I generally feel like we're getting less meaningful content and less to show for it. Cool, we have skill styles now... What about places to use them? More giant houses and not enough furnishing slots to try and do anything meaningful with them.
I let my ESO+ lapse and I kind of don't see the need to re-up it until I amass enough furniture to work on my houses. Depending on the location and theme, I might not even get the new Chapter when it launches.
Also the very recent chat monitoring AI that's been flagging people for cursing or ERPing in an M-rated game and banning or suspending accounts for things whispered in private or group chats with consenting parties is a huge red flag. I don't know what the hell ZOS is doing lately, but they're going to start hemorrhaging players if they're not smart about it.
In an ideal world the two new companions will be in a bundle for 1500 crowns, the amount you get with your ESO+ sub, but in reality they're probably gonna be separate
Great info.. Thanks..
ok but about Cyrodiil
ZoS have fooled us again 😢
Great breakdown of the upcoming changes. Love the humour as well 🙂
"Powerful AssPBFT"
I burned myself out playing so much, and made no friends. I still like to watch your videos to get my ESO fix..✌
this is insane so good
As someone who still sucks at BGs this is not great news. I die alot.. and felt most confident doing Capture the Relic.
Ah dang. Hopefully the more casual 8v8 mode will prove to still be enjoyable for you and allow you the legroom to make mistakes from time to time seeing as your team size is larger and the maps will let you dip in an out of combat a bit easier.
I definitely want the rotating merchant cat as you displayed it 😊
Selling companions in a crown store separately from the chapter is something i expected from Fallout 76 but not from eso. Feels like massive fuck you to everyone who dosnt have eso+ but paid full price for Gold Road. Whats next? Selling access to public dungeons? Pay for side quests?
Just found your channel and subbed, great stuff! I just got back into ESO, so your content has helped get caught up.
Right on! Welcome back to ESO 🙏
I keep telling myself to get back into eso. Think im 871. Last chapter i did was the green sorcerer class with the big eyeball guy. I forget the name
Attention to Cyrodiil would have been vastly better, imo. However, it all looks good and interesting.
The devs hate traders. Every time I find something to make some gold with they find a way to ruin it. sux. Great video though, thanks.
The majority of regular PvP players are complaining because this update is meant to force some players into a dead content (BG), while ZOS keep neglecting the content that we do play (Grayhost). When you consider the update along the current state of the combat balance (looking at you hardened ward sorc and nbs), tank healing meta and in combat bug, you will see how far the devs are from the pvp players. Devs have abandoned the pvpers and the updates shows it badly.
I hope that when the patch notes drop we will see that some much-needed balance changes and bug fixes have been made. I don't see why we can't receive some refurbished BG content and some balance changes in the same update, so I'll hold off on my disappointment until those patch notes drop ;p
@@Arttea would be a breeze of fresa air... I would not count on it though hehe
The constant magsorc and nb whining kind of gets old at this point. 2 classes that are high skill high reward, unlike Templar, dk, warden w I finite heals and resistances nb and sorc got mobility and yeah the stealth (which can be countered w stealth detect pots, and mage light, and revealing flare) and yeah hardened ward has a ti y heal on it now but it has ALWAYS been like this, and I remember before that little healing got added to ward (which btw it’s expensive) magsorc was considered one of the worst classes for pvp.
So yeah 2 classes that are good dealing damage and have different ways of survival rather than a million hots and burst heals is kind of nice, specially in a meta where everyone is a tank cause everyone is afraid to die.
All clases are op therefore the game is balanced, nb and sorc requiere skill to pull out the shit they do
@@TheJoker-cz2rc i couldnt care less tbh, since I mostly run in ballgroups. I am explaining what is the general feeling among regulars and what have been asked for versus the last updates.
@TheJoker-cz2rc you are comparing 1 button impossible to die to a defensive rotation impossible to die? No class should be able to just not be able to do die (looking at sorc nb and high hp arc & warden)
What a damn disaster. They made us excited with "PVP FEATURE" update after 6 years of nothing and all they do is remove one team from PVP. Idiots run this game. Period.
I've seen a lot of people have this take. If you caught the live stream or watched the 8 minute segment of this recap vid that covered the BG changes and genuinely believe that the *only* thing that we're getting is that there is one less team in BG matches, then I don't think there is anything that the devs could do to appease likeminded peeps. They will always find something to be dissatisfied about. I am with you on the whole waiting 6 years thing though - I do wish the PVP side of things received the attention that it deserves.
@@Arttea I have to disagree with you. Few more maps, few sets, and powerups in BGs. Is that what they were working on for the past 6 years? We're not hard to please, but this update is what other games do in a monthly update. A slight rework of Cyrodil and Imperial city would already be a good start. There's so many ways they can refresh and improve it, but they simply don't care. It's really not that hard. I wonder if you'd be saying the same, if after 6 years of no updates to PVE content, they'd release 6 sets, shrink dungeon group to 3 people, and call it a FEATURE. You're being way too generous with them, and that's why they're getting away with it.
@@KapitanKlaps I don’t PvE, I main PvP. Like I said, I also wish Cyrodiil and IC would receive some love.
Mom I'm famous, I'm in an Arttea video! ;D
I didn't have time to catch the stream, so this was a really helpful breakdown. Made only more entertaining by your editing and commentary. :)
Yeah, in the end, it's about taste, or personal preference. Although I must say, they sold the new maps, with their more organic and less arena-like contrived layout, really well.
Havent played ESO in a while, but your videos keep me well updated and informed, with excelent quality ! Thank you :D
Zos says they’re listening to feedback, but I have literally never seen anyone ask or comment on battlegrounds, it’s always about cyro. Feels like they’re trying to kill cyro. They’re losing players by ignoring the vet pvpers
I guess it just comes down to where you are looking. I've seen a lot of folks ask for BGs to receive a rework - if you check the forums, a lot of the PVP regulars who articulate their concerns about PVP (beyond just BGs, but things like performance and balance issues) are really* into BGs as well.
Vet pvpers are usually in the wrong in most cases. Maybe ignoring em is for the best
As someone who heavily PvP’d mostly in cyro for 4+ years, I’m looking forward to this update. I’ve only came back to eso for PvP events over the last two years.
Coming back to a more casual no mmr 8v8 sounds fun af. Jumping in to cyro after so much time off and my balls stick to my gamer chair within 30 seconds. Such a sweat fest in there these days.
So excited for the new battleground's.
Same here, I can't wait to test them out on the PTS next week!!
0:01 i can agree with this opinion.The matchmaking system for PvP in eso is just a kinda joke.I did not enjoy playing garbage maps and getting clapped just for 1 team to win just a match which brings some unnessesary amount of AP anyway.I would rather spend that time in Cyrodiil and camp def combos instead of doing this shit BGs.
Amazing work on this video! Super informative :)
Thanks! :D
watch the next companions be only available in crown crates
@@Leisurous bro do NOT give them any ideas 😭
2 new companions for ESO + or paid for crowns.This is piece of shit for how they would add something to the game if i had to pay for.I guess zos missing times when ppl were buying new zone DLCs.....
Thanks!
Thank you for the super thanks!
The three groups of four players in battlegrounds stops ballgroups from dominating the mode! (The Devs don't know what they are doing!)
It’s a good thing ballgroups can’t all queue into BGs together
i wish the tree sap legion armor didnt have the bones....it would look so good
fantastic and informative vid as always you are my number one content creator for the latest Eso info
Yall are going to switch to throne and liberty 🖤
We get a mega wolf mode but NO MEGA ARGONIAN mode in the update? I no no wan it
Arttea video! :)
Why doesn't group queue work for me and my buddies when we are trying to do group bgs? I can barely get them to play the game anymore because of that issue.
@@papasquatch2432 what issue are you having? Group queue should be working fine, although*, queue times for group BGs are quite long, especially if you and your buddies all have varying MMRs.
Thanks for the shoutout also during the Companion section! ♥
@@Xylluk ofc! I wanted to use a nice photo of Sharp and I immediately thought of you and all the really nice pics you post of him and your characters on twitter!
Did you say THREE chaos balls? In the one match?! My back hurts already.
I'm torn on the 'chaos' factor of picking up the ball, but that's probably because I'm part of the troll-warden problem with that game mode. Once I get the ball, that's it; we're winning. That was probably a smart move on the devs' part.
RIP trading and all hail the new BG meta.
As always, thanks for summing this up for those of us who never watch the streams.
Cyro is 70% running around
@@user-me7iw6ft8z that’s definitely what I like the least about cyrodiil 😩 too much running
i want homes inside new chapter cities...much more useful
I think the only time I'll be returning to this game is when they update the animations. Like dude, 2:35 what is that? 😭 I still love this game though. Thanks for the recap!
It was so tempting to add some goofy ahh cartoon running sounds to the track when I saw that shit
Honestly the update is looking way more exciting then expected. I personally like the idea of having leads in IC on a rotating vendor. Would literally make me play pvp more than I normally would. I hope it isn't just for mythic items. If they could include 1 or 2 leads outside of mythic items (especially for the ones like Khenarthi's sweet song and cat's eye where the leads are extremely hard to get) for purchase. They could put some leads in the battlegrounds vendor for alliance points if we wanted to separate the two but all in all I prefer doing pvp matches over endlessly grinding random things in a zone for 2 to 5 hours for a single drop. Stupid codex entries. XD
I quit the game 2 years ago because the refused the last update for my main content, cyro, that also took like 4 years to develop, was destroyable bridges
eso castles artstyle is super uncanny
8v8 gunna be huge in BGs!
Yessss I'm actually pretty stoked for those! I'll definitely be queueing into the competitive 4v4 mode when I'm playing solo but the 8v8 mode *sounds perfect for battlegrounds event nights with my guild!!
We will be able to solo queue for competitive 4v4?
Yep! The 4v4 queue accepts groups of up to 4 players.
not sure if this still is pvp when there is so much rng even inside the 4v4 matches..
7:17 - 7:22 😂
Gut wrenching disappointment in the entirety of this update. We have been capturing keeps for 10 years on the same map bar, a few new outposts, and milegates. Zos is completely out of touch with its audience. The companions are trash, too, both of them. The majority of people wanted different races that haven't been done yet, like nord
I hardly ever go on the forums so I have no idea about a lot of things that the fans are talking about so I really wonder who asked for 2 team battlegrounds? Was this something that was asked for in 2015?
It's coming up regularly on the topic of Battlegrounds, usually with a comparison with other games. Not necessarily as a majority consensus, but someone will eventually mention it.
ESO Xbox player for 5 years, and I have been happy with all recent updates and changes. BG is my favorite because Cyradill is laggy as hell on xbox, but I do like Imperial City pvp. I think the new 4x4 & 8x8 modes look fun & I will spend a lot of time in both modes, lol.. as far as paying for companions, well I use mine on every character because I solo 95% of the time, so I won't mind paying for them as I'm also an ESO plus player & as long as they ain't like $20 a companion, which is probably what it'll be, 😂😂😂😂.
Usually I go to nerdy guys for this info, but this girl knows her shit, and even PVP wise knows her shit. That's kinda gnarly type shit!
I'm famous. Why do they hate Cyrodiil though
Best recap, thx!
No problemo!
This sounds like a horrible change, I haven't played ESO in years and see no reason to come back.
the whole trading system can be scrapped in my opinion, I do not engage with it at all since it is locked to guilds
The new 4v4's look hawt. Overall, I'm very excited for the new changes!
Same here 😎
Finally a pvp update! I love bg’s so I’m definitely reinstalling to try it out and spending all my crowns that have been accumulating haha 😅
Tel Var merch really said: o i i a ee
For zos to tout a pvp update and it ends up only for bgs... it's as if they don't even recognize cyro as part of ESO
To be fair, the devs did actually take a moment in the stream to say that they saw all of the angry cries about cyrodiil and that they hear where these people are coming from but that at *this* moment, the topic of the stream is the new BG update. I do hope the update goes over well with players - if it does and PVP becomes more popular, this could encourage the devs to continue to put their resources into more frequent pvp updates. Because, I'm with you man, Cyro does need a lot of love, especially when it comes to sorting out bugs and performance issues
ZoS doesn't feel much patience to PvP.
Waiting 7 years for BG update feels like it was enough time of preparation for them.
For Cyrodiil fix was waiting for 5 years but still even can hear some noises about being laggy again.
Why can't we just choose which battleground we want to do? We have choice when it comes to dungeons, random or specific, this is not difficult to implement.
We used to be able to, but queue times became incredibly long, unfortunately. If battlegrounds were ever to become super popular again, perhaps being able to choose our game mode would return as an option.
@@Arttea Or, they could allow us to choose and then that way they can see which battlegrounds are popular and tweak the ones that aren't. It's called game development, you know the thing "devs" are supposed to be doing. Also, random dungeons have long queues for dps, choosing specific dungeons is even worse when it comes to queues, the system should still be available regardless.
is the new companions are free or crown store?
It was announced that the new companions will be purchasable from the crown store.
@@Arttea so sad,but thank you for info
You vids are way better than the RUclipsrs zos pays!
Oh man, I have some bad news for ya I have accepted sponsorships from ZOS/Bethesda in the past to showcase new content and the like (no reviews, since you legally can't do that), but I always disclose that those vids are sponsored right away (again, I legally have to). So this vid isn't sponsored at all. Anyways, just thought I would clear that up; in all fairness, the sponsorships help pay the bills so that I can keep making these videos and I would argue that the integrity of my content isn't compromised since those sponsored vids are always objective in nature anyways.
Storm lords were literally the best team tho
I appreciate the attempt by Zos. But they just don’t listen to the right people about pvp. When I seen ninetails on the live I said to myself “that’s…. concerning, where is painintheaxe?”
@@grooviedrewbie3843 pain is pretty stoked for this BG update! I’m in a discord server with a bunch of creators (including pain) and devs and he wrote quite a bit about how he’s pumped for the new content.
A brand new custom what? "Forage"? Really though, RIP two more trade routes, one high value, and one high volume. They need to do something on the other end...I know more than one trader that's folded because of these changes making it just not viable, at all. I've heard of a few others where guild leaders are dumping a thousand plus a month into the game to keep their guilds afloat, non sustainable at best.
As for companions... On one hand, locking companions to the store is a pain, but functionally all other companions are also locked behind a crown or cash purchase. It's just a different route to the same destination, and there's an argument to be made that this system is better, depending on your point of view. ESO+ or 3,500 crowns per pair of companions. Blackwood, high isle, Necrom, 3,500 crowns a pop... Accept, with all three of those, those companions were not available with ESO+ OR crowns. They were Cash only. For a year. You could not obtain those companions for the first year via gold from crown sellers.
Now, you can. When these companions drop, a person will be able to unlock them day one via a crown seller, without spending any real world money on ESO+ or on the current cash only DLC zone. And people who maintain ESO+ but are a year behind everyone else in content because they refuse to buy DLC as it comes out will also be ahead with these companions compared to every other set of companions.
The crown PRICE will dictate a lot. Every other companion was _part_ of a 3,500 crown "bundle" of an entire DLC. So provided they are available for a reasonable price, say 500 crowns? It's a better system, for players, legitimately. Anyone in even a low end trader will be able to save up and get a companion in very short order. If they cost the 5k of a non-sale banker or rag picker or other assistant? Obviously this logic doesn't fly and fire the person who made this decision.
A custom forge (blacksmithing station)
@@Arttea Sorry, the pronunciation was just very funny to me, for some reason, I didn't mean to offend.
@@drackar ah my bad, I thought when you asked about it in your previous message it was because you didn’t understand what I had said and needed clarification. I didn’t know that you were just making fun of the way I speak my second language
This would have all made sense if they didnt abandon BGs over 4 years ago. Now it feels random and unnecessary. ZOS really has no idea what they are doing anymore.
just give us deathmatch only queue and some maps ffs
I saw your Amsterdam video, it was beautiful.
I stopped eso because i got to sweaty at pvp and quickly lost everything in life, dropping out of university my last semester, losing my serious irl relationship for a guild relationship because she hated i gamed so much with a strange women online, lost my job, gained weight and lost the fit swimmer body i had for a dad bod, and was constantly at edge of homeless after.... all so i could slay noobs in pvp 😁
Seeing you have fun in Amsterdam made it seem finally normal, and like something healthy for once.
Please do more trips/ vlogs, your adventures out and about looked so fun, and your actually a good looking women! I honestly thought you were a 300lb whale 🐋
You have a good chance at getting married, if you take it. Cheers
@@oscarbear7498 what pvping does to a mf 😩
(Glad you liked the vlog! Any time I hit up an ESO event I’ll be sure to bring you all along by vlogging it)
mirror world nikocado avocado
This entire BGS vs Cyro doesn't make sense to me. The person you mention in the video while allowed to have their perspective and opinions is wrong for saying BGS are pointless. Outside of the bonus XP they used to give may have been an accurate assumption but this change ushers in a competitive environment where if they reward you well enough has a purpose now. I understand the frustration of Cyrodil players but objectively speaking Cyrodil has very little PVP aspects that make it feel rewarding or strategic. The fact I have to run for ages to find a fight on a mount itself is super tedious. Only to be faced with Meta slaves and ball groups. Now is that point being made to not update Cyrodil? No. But Cyrodil players were never expressed to have this update directly to them so downplaying the effectiveness of this update because it wasn't the mode of your choice is super disingenuous. There is this huge false consensus effect within ESO in all corners of the sub cultures within this world where they think because they hyper focus on Cyrodil and engage with players who do so that its the only experience every other player adheres to when simply this is not the case. People play BGS, my 2 guilds are thrilled and so am I. People want a instanced queue where you can play via skill and coordination not run for hours to find something only to do it over and over again when you get stealth killed or rolled by a ball group and then have to do mount simulator again. Thats why many competitive games survive for years and years. Again, in an ideal world both would get love but dont disparage people who like BGS or the game mode itself because it wasn't what you wanted.
Nice.
I watched Nikocado Avocado lose weight before Cyrodiil got an update ☠💀😂 cooked