ZOS says they've been listening to feedback. Apparently, they got the feedback from the same place they got the idea to change Stalking Blastbones to Gravelord's Sacrifice.
ESO pvp designer....I want that job. Work hard, release game, release bg's 4 years later, take 6 years off, ignore pvp community, release bg update that no one wants, wait another 4-6 years
Not excited for ball groups running banner barer skill on top of saint and seducer x12...... because ZOS thinks that somehow helps everyone else kill ball groups 🙄
I think 8v8s will be too uncoordinated for that to happen seeing as ballgroups require a LOT of precision and coordination. Only up to 4 people can queue into them together iirc.
Honestly, im quite pissed about paid companions. I dont care about them but the fact that they reward you account upgrades and grant you achievements (which is a double kick in the nuts as an achievement hunter) strays the crown store away from its "cosmetic" point
@@repomang bro that's offtopic as hell. I said I'm disappointed about one side of the game. It's called constrictive criticism. Sharing an opinion so they know that the system they've done to companions is not good.
@@drackar yeah but they're at least behind DLCs. I can't wait to know the pricing for them (and if they're permanently free for ESO+ users or not as that may also be a big factor)
@@gor2944 yeah. Pricing dictates a lot on if this is a positive or negative change. Given the price of story DLC with companions, in crowns, is 3500, and you get two companions with that DLC. 500 or so crowns would be fair. I could see a 1000 and it not being unreasonable. Anyone, playing the game, could get that from a gold trader. If it's 5k like assistants? Yeah, I'm right there with ya'll with the pitchforks and torches.
Yeah when I heard that announced on stream I felt a sinking feeling in my stomach 😓 ESO already receives a lot of (very fair) criticism for its unsavory monetization practices, and this feels like another step in the wrong direction.
I'm fine with having companions available in crown store, as long as they would have stayed included in expansions as well. So you could choose if you like to have the whole chapter or just the the companions. This should be done with all companions then. That would of course require to move the quest lines from the chapter to base game.
@@samuraichicken2315 Antiquities were always locked behind paywalls, whether the system itself requiring Greymoor, requiring DLC zone or dungeon access to get the leads, or needing to access the zone where they can be dug up. Leads dropping for you that require a DLC purchase to actually dig up were always a form of in-game marketing imo
thank you for featuring my comment in the video! i've been locked in with housing & pve recently, but the new maps might entice me to update my pvp builds and try battlegrounds again...
I'm pretty sure they people mad that cyro didn't get an update more often than not don't want Cyro updates, but want general pvp balance updates. Most comments I see regarding cyro is like "nerf cross healing, nerf Magsorc, buff templar and necro, nerf procs" they're all generally balancing requests, but not actual updates to Cyro game mode. Which IMO it's not worth wasting an entire quarter just for balance changes, they can do both at the same time.
Yeah to be fair, the devs probably(?) wouldn't start yapping about balance changes on stream because that would be kinda boring to a lot of the peeps in the chat; they'd probably wanna stick to just showing off the new stuff for the purpose of the reveal stream. We may receive some news about pvp balance changes once the patch notes drop 🤞Hopefully lol
I like battlegrounds far better than cyro. That being said, the perilous capture points make me think javelin on templar might actually be worth slotting.
I quit the game before the release of necrom because I felt zos wasn't going to update cyrodiil at all and I haven't been proven wrong yet. I'm a helldiver now.
In an ideal world the two new companions will be in a bundle for 1500 crowns, the amount you get with your ESO+ sub, but in reality they're probably gonna be separate
I wish they would add a Furnishing browser where I can see all the furnishing I can craft or acquire, and their sources. It's messy even with third party addons/sites.
ESO lost me and my wife with the monetization over the years also my brother too so i can only imagine how many players are in the same boat , i love this game but monetization has killed it .
When I've read about about pvp changes in a steam post I was a little bit sus. But with this new information, if it's going to be like that - it's promising. The only thing I still have concerns is a good match making system. If you don't have a good mm in 4vs4 it's going to be always lopsided. In 4vs4vs4 you have at least small chance to steal victory, but in 4vs4 it's going to be nearly impossible. So I hope ELO is going to be adequate. Thx for video Arttea
I really like your style of editing and you seem to have a level-headed opinion towards the game in general which is needed when you get presented with companions in the crown store.
Nobody even mentions that IC is pretty much always dead? And that +10% gains with ESO+ sub is entering the grey area of p2w. Though I understand why. As a IC pvp main, there was no need to purchase eso+ for me at all. I don't care about DLC dungeons or crafting bag, i'm just farming kills and tel var. Still I don't mind there being new BGs, but why did they have to remove old ones? 3-way battlegrounds is what i found to be unique in pvp when compared to other MMOs that I played. If having separate queues is the issue, well they're implementing ranked and casual queues as separate anyway. Why not just leave the old BGs for casual play? We're not getting more PvP content, we're getting LESS PvP content - 8 old areas removed, 7 new.
The main problem with Capture the Relic is that like anything on ESO is poorly executed and barely planned (if planned at all). 100% of the times it plays one of these two on the first 30 seconds, either every team gathers one relic and camp it on their base or two teams slaughter each other while one team is capturing on the backgroung. Maybe add something like if all 3 relics are being carried by players they just explode and di3 >:D
@@helenasantos4390 on the PTS, the BG furniture is still available for purchase. The rewards have been revamped but they don’t quite fit their descriptions that were given on the PTS patch notes. I’m waiting for some clarification from the developers before I go ahead and showcase the new rewards because it’s kind of a hot mess 😅 On the bright side, we will have an easier time obtaining the BG style pages because they drop more consistently and we’ll even be able to use our new “battlemaster token” currency to purchase them from a vendor.
I've been away from the game for awhile, and just barely keep up with what goes on with it's updates via your videos out of pure curiosity. I will say that the tutorial change is something that surprised me, because I was a big proponent of how messy ESO was to comprehend narrative-wise, a large component being how you have to go out of your way to actually start the actual main quest via re-playing the old tutorial after it got replaced by the various chapter tutorials. I've never been a big PvP guy, but these updates look like they'll be big for fans of that side of the game. The two companions look fun and interesting, definitely on-the-fence about how they're crown-store items tho... Then again, I uninstalled the game ages ago and hadn't even bought Gold Road before I did, so I don't think I'm coming back just to drop money on a couple of followers anyways lmao
Random side note that popped into my head while reading comments, but what would it take for character edit vouchers to become earnable rewards/purchasable with Seals? Half the shit I got from the daily log-in rewards that wasn't a cosmetic/unlock or currency usually ended up taking up space in my bank and never getting touched, or right click>deleted. Same goes for most low-level crown crate rewards just getting sent immediately to the gem-grinder. Why not put some other crown store items, for example, coveted character edit/name change tokens into these other sources for people to semi-reliably earn through logging in/earning endeavor seals? It'd just be nice to have them more readily available when you do want to tweak your character's appearance, without needing to fork over 10 bucks or start from square 1... but maybe that's asking for too much generosity from ZOS... And I ain't even playing the game anymore anyways lol, but I'll never pass an opportunity to overthink about something
Why doesn't group queue work for me and my buddies when we are trying to do group bgs? I can barely get them to play the game anymore because of that issue.
@@papasquatch2432 what issue are you having? Group queue should be working fine, although*, queue times for group BGs are quite long, especially if you and your buddies all have varying MMRs.
Forreal, BG’s are lame. Cyrodiil is always pop locked every week meanwhile you can’t even queue for a BG bc nobody plays them! Zos should’ve at least acknowledged they were working on a Cyrodiil update. Their lack of communication has been a huge point of contention with the community for years!
@@Fazuchon it’s only a horse simulator if you keep dying so don’t out yourself for all of RUclips to know. If you don’t die as much you can run with a Zerg and use transit in keeps 🙂 not sure if you knew that. Btw there’s nothing but sweaty 4 stacks with meta gear loadouts waiting for you in BG’s.
@@Sniperjones_007 It's still horse sim even if you're good lol, fights can end faster than it takes for you to ride there, you can ride to a fight just for it to be over by the time it ends. Don't pretend cyro's map isn't massive for how many people there is.Thats especially true when 1 faction has higher population. So Idk what you mean by that
Zos says they’re listening to feedback, but I have literally never seen anyone ask or comment on battlegrounds, it’s always about cyro. Feels like they’re trying to kill cyro. They’re losing players by ignoring the vet pvpers
I guess it just comes down to where you are looking. I've seen a lot of folks ask for BGs to receive a rework - if you check the forums, a lot of the PVP regulars who articulate their concerns about PVP (beyond just BGs, but things like performance and balance issues) are really* into BGs as well.
Arttea is my spirit Bosmer. We need a petition to ZOS to have Artemis as an Imperial-Bosmer Spinner companion, voiced as none-other-than.... Artemis would have two passives for in-the-wild guild trading and drip changes. High rapport will come from posting high value items in guild traders and changing outfits. Y'ffre save the Queen of Sass and Snark!
The majority of regular PvP players are complaining because this update is meant to force some players into a dead content (BG), while ZOS keep neglecting the content that we do play (Grayhost). When you consider the update along the current state of the combat balance (looking at you hardened ward sorc and nbs), tank healing meta and in combat bug, you will see how far the devs are from the pvp players. Devs have abandoned the pvpers and the updates shows it badly.
I hope that when the patch notes drop we will see that some much-needed balance changes and bug fixes have been made. I don't see why we can't receive some refurbished BG content and some balance changes in the same update, so I'll hold off on my disappointment until those patch notes drop ;p
The constant magsorc and nb whining kind of gets old at this point. 2 classes that are high skill high reward, unlike Templar, dk, warden w I finite heals and resistances nb and sorc got mobility and yeah the stealth (which can be countered w stealth detect pots, and mage light, and revealing flare) and yeah hardened ward has a ti y heal on it now but it has ALWAYS been like this, and I remember before that little healing got added to ward (which btw it’s expensive) magsorc was considered one of the worst classes for pvp. So yeah 2 classes that are good dealing damage and have different ways of survival rather than a million hots and burst heals is kind of nice, specially in a meta where everyone is a tank cause everyone is afraid to die. All clases are op therefore the game is balanced, nb and sorc requiere skill to pull out the shit they do
@@TheJoker-cz2rc i couldnt care less tbh, since I mostly run in ballgroups. I am explaining what is the general feeling among regulars and what have been asked for versus the last updates.
@TheJoker-cz2rc you are comparing 1 button impossible to die to a defensive rotation impossible to die? No class should be able to just not be able to do die (looking at sorc nb and high hp arc & warden)
Still no love for the Bosmer. Gold Road gave one motif and a few furnishings, but Bosmer remain the least respected race by devs in Tamriel. Now I am a Khajiit main and we get a lot of love, but I have to wonder why there is a second Khajiit companion. Khajiit x 2 Dunmer x 1 Imperial x 1 Breton x 1 Red Guard x 1 Argonian x 1 Altmer x 1 Bosmer x 0 Osimer x 0 Nord x 0 Since my second favorite character is Bosmer I feel your lack of Bosmer stuff pain.
I adored the 3 team based BGs. It felt different to other games. That being said, I might return to ESO just to try these new ones out. I do hope three team based BGs are not going to dissapear forever and this new addition is just going to extend the options. But with the health of PvP overall, and Battlegrounds especially, I don't think that's going to be the case. What got me into ESO was PvP and what drove me away was trivial overland which made the stories forgettable, because there was no feeling of achievement. So now I'm hoping for challenging overland since they finally did something new for PvP.
I think the 8v8 will be lots of fun, And since I mostly solo queue for BGs when I do feel like it, I think it'll be nice to have less individual pressure and those Chaos Ball transformations actually look hilarious. Hopefully they do something about matchmaking, because I've found if I queue with friends, they throw you against whatever other play stack is also queued so more often than not if I'm just trying to have a few fun rounds with pals who aren't huge into PVP it's often getting matched against high ranked players who play BGs a lot, which ends up being kind of one-sided a lot of the times. I kind of feel like ESO's starting to go down a pretty sketchy slope lately; there's no longer Q3 dungeons and Q4 story zones, and I don't feel like what's replaced them is worth it. The quality of the annual chapters doesn't feel more expansive and fulfilling than prior years. Cyrodiil isn't really ever looked at, and it feels like ZOS' only form of balance is introducing new sets that sometimes end up making things worse. Companions being locked into the Crown store is kind of unnerving, and I generally feel like we're getting less meaningful content and less to show for it. Cool, we have skill styles now... What about places to use them? More giant houses and not enough furnishing slots to try and do anything meaningful with them. I let my ESO+ lapse and I kind of don't see the need to re-up it until I amass enough furniture to work on my houses. Depending on the location and theme, I might not even get the new Chapter when it launches. Also the very recent chat monitoring AI that's been flagging people for cursing or ERPing in an M-rated game and banning or suspending accounts for things whispered in private or group chats with consenting parties is a huge red flag. I don't know what the hell ZOS is doing lately, but they're going to start hemorrhaging players if they're not smart about it.
These tanky builds really need some nerfs, high level PVP is just immortal gods smacking each other till one side makes a mistake, just a bad experience all around
One idea I always thought eso needs for pvp only is a mega nerf on hp recovery, healing sickness debuff (if you get healed from more then sources all healing received is reduced by 33% or something like that) A dmg and cc resist debuff depending on how many allies players are around you. That’s all stuff a game that focuses on Zerg v Zerg fights with like 300v300 battles has implemented (All tho the player number debuff should be bigger) Albion online.
Unless ur bad at the game ur not running in a Zerg ur 1vXing. Hp recovery has been nerfed, a good pvp build is capable of healing itself without needing a healer, so getting reduced healing from other sources won’t do anything.
@@jpwashere2868 1vx ing is also a lot about movement, breaking line of sight to not get bombarded by there spells. The small towers that are at farms etc should all have a door so that enemies can’t use them unless they capture it or break the doors. Also easy access ti minor defile was removed like 5 years ago when they nerfed shield bash for some reason.
I hardly ever go on the forums so I have no idea about a lot of things that the fans are talking about so I really wonder who asked for 2 team battlegrounds? Was this something that was asked for in 2015?
It's coming up regularly on the topic of Battlegrounds, usually with a comparison with other games. Not necessarily as a majority consensus, but someone will eventually mention it.
Ah dang. Hopefully the more casual 8v8 mode will prove to still be enjoyable for you and allow you the legroom to make mistakes from time to time seeing as your team size is larger and the maps will let you dip in an out of combat a bit easier.
Why can't we just choose which battleground we want to do? We have choice when it comes to dungeons, random or specific, this is not difficult to implement.
We used to be able to, but queue times became incredibly long, unfortunately. If battlegrounds were ever to become super popular again, perhaps being able to choose our game mode would return as an option.
@@Arttea Or, they could allow us to choose and then that way they can see which battlegrounds are popular and tweak the ones that aren't. It's called game development, you know the thing "devs" are supposed to be doing. Also, random dungeons have long queues for dps, choosing specific dungeons is even worse when it comes to queues, the system should still be available regardless.
My animosity about bg's is I'm a pve guy I don't even like pvp. The daily bg has the big reward. So il usually get my 1 dungeon in for that daily then spend the rest of my night trying not to get last in a battle ground which never happens. Only being able to die 5 times sounds like a blessing though
Selling companions in a crown store separately from the chapter is something i expected from Fallout 76 but not from eso. Feels like massive fuck you to everyone who dosnt have eso+ but paid full price for Gold Road. Whats next? Selling access to public dungeons? Pay for side quests?
0:01 i can agree with this opinion.The matchmaking system for PvP in eso is just a kinda joke.I did not enjoy playing garbage maps and getting clapped just for 1 team to win just a match which brings some unnessesary amount of AP anyway.I would rather spend that time in Cyrodiil and camp def combos instead of doing this shit BGs.
As someone who heavily PvP’d mostly in cyro for 4+ years, I’m looking forward to this update. I’ve only came back to eso for PvP events over the last two years. Coming back to a more casual no mmr 8v8 sounds fun af. Jumping in to cyro after so much time off and my balls stick to my gamer chair within 30 seconds. Such a sweat fest in there these days.
I do find it ironic that the Devs for this game can't even be bothered to demonstrate its features without resorting to hacks that any player would be perma-banned for using. And the PVE-esque choices they made for the new Chaos Ball TvT BG demonstrate a massive disconnect between what players want and what the Devs want. No one want's their bars forcibly changed in PVP! Oh and, Alfiq companion when..? (as opposed to the one which can already be bought for crowns, only to uselessly sit in our houses making witty remarks)
Mom I'm famous, I'm in an Arttea video! ;D I didn't have time to catch the stream, so this was a really helpful breakdown. Made only more entertaining by your editing and commentary. :) Yeah, in the end, it's about taste, or personal preference. Although I must say, they sold the new maps, with their more organic and less arena-like contrived layout, really well.
@@Xylluk ofc! I wanted to use a nice photo of Sharp and I immediately thought of you and all the really nice pics you post of him and your characters on twitter!
What a damn disaster. They made us excited with "PVP FEATURE" update after 6 years of nothing and all they do is remove one team from PVP. Idiots run this game. Period.
I've seen a lot of people have this take. If you caught the live stream or watched the 8 minute segment of this recap vid that covered the BG changes and genuinely believe that the *only* thing that we're getting is that there is one less team in BG matches, then I don't think there is anything that the devs could do to appease likeminded peeps. They will always find something to be dissatisfied about. I am with you on the whole waiting 6 years thing though - I do wish the PVP side of things received the attention that it deserves.
@@Arttea I have to disagree with you. Few more maps, few sets, and powerups in BGs. Is that what they were working on for the past 6 years? We're not hard to please, but this update is what other games do in a monthly update. A slight rework of Cyrodil and Imperial city would already be a good start. There's so many ways they can refresh and improve it, but they simply don't care. It's really not that hard. I wonder if you'd be saying the same, if after 6 years of no updates to PVE content, they'd release 6 sets, shrink dungeon group to 3 people, and call it a FEATURE. You're being way too generous with them, and that's why they're getting away with it.
I feel this. The fact that they were not capable to release two new BG maps every year always baffled me. There could be so much more PvP content if they paid attention to it. Even some new form of PvP. I always wanted something of a cops and robbers type of mode in cities all over Tamriel, but I guess that's too much to ask for.
I quit the game 2 years ago because the refused the last update for my main content, cyro, that also took like 4 years to develop, was destroyable bridges
I think the only time I'll be returning to this game is when they update the animations. Like dude, 2:35 what is that? 😭 I still love this game though. Thanks for the recap!
Yessss I'm actually pretty stoked for those! I'll definitely be queueing into the competitive 4v4 mode when I'm playing solo but the 8v8 mode *sounds perfect for battlegrounds event nights with my guild!!
2 new companions for ESO + or paid for crowns.This is piece of shit for how they would add something to the game if i had to pay for.I guess zos missing times when ppl were buying new zone DLCs.....
Honestly the update is looking way more exciting then expected. I personally like the idea of having leads in IC on a rotating vendor. Would literally make me play pvp more than I normally would. I hope it isn't just for mythic items. If they could include 1 or 2 leads outside of mythic items (especially for the ones like Khenarthi's sweet song and cat's eye where the leads are extremely hard to get) for purchase. They could put some leads in the battlegrounds vendor for alliance points if we wanted to separate the two but all in all I prefer doing pvp matches over endlessly grinding random things in a zone for 2 to 5 hours for a single drop. Stupid codex entries. XD
Oh man, I have some bad news for ya I have accepted sponsorships from ZOS/Bethesda in the past to showcase new content and the like (no reviews, since you legally can't do that), but I always disclose that those vids are sponsored right away (again, I legally have to). So this vid isn't sponsored at all. Anyways, just thought I would clear that up; in all fairness, the sponsorships help pay the bills so that I can keep making these videos and I would argue that the integrity of my content isn't compromised since those sponsored vids are always objective in nature anyways.
ZOS says they've been listening to feedback. Apparently, they got the feedback from the same place they got the idea to change Stalking Blastbones to Gravelord's Sacrifice.
RIP the Goat
Must of been from the guy that said please add a card game
their ass?
Real af
Lmao fr
Next chapter wayshrines will be crown crate only.
@@imperialsect4257
ESO pvp designer....I want that job. Work hard, release game, release bg's 4 years later, take 6 years off, ignore pvp community, release bg update that no one wants, wait another 4-6 years
haha, yeah... I also thought: where have these guys been in the last 10 years and what the hell have they worked on ?^^
That guy is a dick.
Not excited for ball groups running banner barer skill on top of saint and seducer x12...... because ZOS thinks that somehow helps everyone else kill ball groups 🙄
😅
Big RiP to my stormlord brothers
It's been years since I booted ESO, I am just watching for the laughs
Ikr! Id rather poke my eyes out than to get roped back in lol!
Can't wait for entry level 8v8 turn into ball groups running through people.
I think 8v8s will be too uncoordinated for that to happen seeing as ballgroups require a LOT of precision and coordination. Only up to 4 people can queue into them together iirc.
Honestly, im quite pissed about paid companions. I dont care about them but the fact that they reward you account upgrades and grant you achievements (which is a double kick in the nuts as an achievement hunter) strays the crown store away from its "cosmetic" point
Oh well, it’s just a video game. Stop playing if you don’t like it🤷♂️
@@repomang bro that's offtopic as hell. I said I'm disappointed about one side of the game. It's called constrictive criticism. Sharing an opinion so they know that the system they've done to companions is not good.
Every other companion is paid, though.
@@drackar yeah but they're at least behind DLCs. I can't wait to know the pricing for them (and if they're permanently free for ESO+ users or not as that may also be a big factor)
@@gor2944 yeah. Pricing dictates a lot on if this is a positive or negative change. Given the price of story DLC with companions, in crowns, is 3500, and you get two companions with that DLC. 500 or so crowns would be fair. I could see a 1000 and it not being unreasonable. Anyone, playing the game, could get that from a gold trader.
If it's 5k like assistants? Yeah, I'm right there with ya'll with the pitchforks and torches.
Yo why we get 2 khajiit companions? Where is my wood elf waifu???? 😅
ugh right???
Another insidious plot of the Furry Cabal, that's the answer.
Where my Orc or Nord mommy?
@@rickallen8767 lmao
Your editing is freaking awesome
Thanks 😄
very informative, nice editing, solid vid. and thanks for including me in ur BG footage :)
Thanks gamer 🙏 I know I can count on getting some nice BG broll for vids when you’re on my team and nuking people 🔥
I would've loved a Wood Elf or Orc companion instead of another Khajiit, but I still like the Khajiit.
Orc necro could be looking nice especially as you've been playing Elsweyr chapter's storyline
Yes for both!
paying for compainions not in dlc drops? wtf is happening to this game thats actually a scary sign lmao
Yeah when I heard that announced on stream I felt a sinking feeling in my stomach 😓 ESO already receives a lot of (very fair) criticism for its unsavory monetization practices, and this feels like another step in the wrong direction.
Monetization kills gaming.Not just ESO
@@Arttea Wait until new antiquities require ESO+.
I'm fine with having companions available in crown store, as long as they would have stayed included in expansions as well. So you could choose if you like to have the whole chapter or just the the companions. This should be done with all companions then. That would of course require to move the quest lines from the chapter to base game.
@@samuraichicken2315 Antiquities were always locked behind paywalls, whether the system itself requiring Greymoor, requiring DLC zone or dungeon access to get the leads, or needing to access the zone where they can be dug up. Leads dropping for you that require a DLC purchase to actually dig up were always a form of in-game marketing imo
thank you for featuring my comment in the video! i've been locked in with housing & pve recently, but the new maps might entice me to update my pvp builds and try battlegrounds again...
I'm pretty sure they people mad that cyro didn't get an update more often than not don't want Cyro updates, but want general pvp balance updates. Most comments I see regarding cyro is like "nerf cross healing, nerf Magsorc, buff templar and necro, nerf procs" they're all generally balancing requests, but not actual updates to Cyro game mode.
Which IMO it's not worth wasting an entire quarter just for balance changes, they can do both at the same time.
Yeah to be fair, the devs probably(?) wouldn't start yapping about balance changes on stream because that would be kinda boring to a lot of the peeps in the chat; they'd probably wanna stick to just showing off the new stuff for the purpose of the reveal stream. We may receive some news about pvp balance changes once the patch notes drop 🤞Hopefully lol
Your info vids are so well done. I can easily listen to you yap from start to finish.
Thank you!
I like battlegrounds far better than cyro. That being said, the perilous capture points make me think javelin on templar might actually be worth slotting.
I quit the game before the release of necrom because I felt zos wasn't going to update cyrodiil at all and I haven't been proven wrong yet. I'm a helldiver now.
In an ideal world the two new companions will be in a bundle for 1500 crowns, the amount you get with your ESO+ sub, but in reality they're probably gonna be separate
Wish they would curate furnishing plans and enough of the 50th version of giant book shelf!!! Weapons and armor to put in our housing builds!!!
I wish they would add a Furnishing browser where I can see all the furnishing I can craft or acquire, and their sources. It's messy even with third party addons/sites.
ESO lost me and my wife with the monetization over the years also my brother too so i can only imagine how many players are in the same boat , i love this game but monetization has killed it .
A very expensive game considering the age and what it offers
When I've read about about pvp changes in a steam post I was a little bit sus. But with this new information, if it's going to be like that - it's promising. The only thing I still have concerns is a good match making system. If you don't have a good mm in 4vs4 it's going to be always lopsided. In 4vs4vs4 you have at least small chance to steal victory, but in 4vs4 it's going to be nearly impossible. So I hope ELO is going to be adequate. Thx for video Arttea
Why even remove the Stormlords? Lmao just make the game pick 2 teams at random at the beginning of the match and thats it
I really like your style of editing and you seem to have a level-headed opinion towards the game in general which is needed when you get presented with companions in the crown store.
Haven't touched battlegrounds in a while, does retiring stormlords mean you cant get the outfit styles dropped anymore?
Nobody even mentions that IC is pretty much always dead? And that +10% gains with ESO+ sub is entering the grey area of p2w. Though I understand why. As a IC pvp main, there was no need to purchase eso+ for me at all. I don't care about DLC dungeons or crafting bag, i'm just farming kills and tel var.
Still I don't mind there being new BGs, but why did they have to remove old ones? 3-way battlegrounds is what i found to be unique in pvp when compared to other MMOs that I played. If having separate queues is the issue, well they're implementing ranked and casual queues as separate anyway. Why not just leave the old BGs for casual play? We're not getting more PvP content, we're getting LESS PvP content - 8 old areas removed, 7 new.
Real I run around in IC and see the same 5 players daily. Literally no incentive for new people to go there
The main problem with Capture the Relic is that like anything on ESO is poorly executed and barely planned (if planned at all). 100% of the times it plays one of these two on the first 30 seconds, either every team gathers one relic and camp it on their base or two teams slaughter each other while one team is capturing on the backgroung.
Maybe add something like if all 3 relics are being carried by players they just explode and di3 >:D
Lmao if the relics were ticking time bombs, that does sound like it would make things a little more interesting ;p
Do we know what is going to happen to the BG achievements and rewards and furniture and stuff since they will disappear?
@@helenasantos4390 on the PTS, the BG furniture is still available for purchase. The rewards have been revamped but they don’t quite fit their descriptions that were given on the PTS patch notes. I’m waiting for some clarification from the developers before I go ahead and showcase the new rewards because it’s kind of a hot mess 😅
On the bright side, we will have an easier time obtaining the BG style pages because they drop more consistently and we’ll even be able to use our new “battlemaster token” currency to purchase them from a vendor.
Attention to Cyrodiil would have been vastly better, imo. However, it all looks good and interesting.
0:12 im so glad ESO has you
Can ZoS just stop with mementos already does anyone even use these?
I'm kinda with you on that. I find myself using emotes way more often than I use mementos.
They will introduce random dungeon puzzles that can only be solved with mementos and emotes.
Only when they’re in Endeavors 😂 I hate Mementos
I've been away from the game for awhile, and just barely keep up with what goes on with it's updates via your videos out of pure curiosity. I will say that the tutorial change is something that surprised me, because I was a big proponent of how messy ESO was to comprehend narrative-wise, a large component being how you have to go out of your way to actually start the actual main quest via re-playing the old tutorial after it got replaced by the various chapter tutorials. I've never been a big PvP guy, but these updates look like they'll be big for fans of that side of the game. The two companions look fun and interesting, definitely on-the-fence about how they're crown-store items tho... Then again, I uninstalled the game ages ago and hadn't even bought Gold Road before I did, so I don't think I'm coming back just to drop money on a couple of followers anyways lmao
Random side note that popped into my head while reading comments, but what would it take for character edit vouchers to become earnable rewards/purchasable with Seals? Half the shit I got from the daily log-in rewards that wasn't a cosmetic/unlock or currency usually ended up taking up space in my bank and never getting touched, or right click>deleted. Same goes for most low-level crown crate rewards just getting sent immediately to the gem-grinder. Why not put some other crown store items, for example, coveted character edit/name change tokens into these other sources for people to semi-reliably earn through logging in/earning endeavor seals? It'd just be nice to have them more readily available when you do want to tweak your character's appearance, without needing to fork over 10 bucks or start from square 1... but maybe that's asking for too much generosity from ZOS... And I ain't even playing the game anymore anyways lol, but I'll never pass an opportunity to overthink about something
Why doesn't group queue work for me and my buddies when we are trying to do group bgs? I can barely get them to play the game anymore because of that issue.
@@papasquatch2432 what issue are you having? Group queue should be working fine, although*, queue times for group BGs are quite long, especially if you and your buddies all have varying MMRs.
At this point in time its about time we stop blaming the Devs and start blaming the stream team content creators at this point
damn bruh what tf did they do? 😭
@Arttea lol not you 🤣 you are amazing and make me lots of gold with all those guides you have for true end game... housing
We really got ESO PvP update before GTA 6
Forreal, BG’s are lame. Cyrodiil is always pop locked every week meanwhile you can’t even queue for a BG bc nobody plays them! Zos should’ve at least acknowledged they were working on a Cyrodiil update. Their lack of communication has been a huge point of contention with the community for years!
Not everyone wants to play horse simulator, so many pvp players prefer BG's. I usually wait around 5-10 minutes in evening to jump in to BG's.
@@Fazuchon it’s only a horse simulator if you keep dying so don’t out yourself for all of RUclips to know. If you don’t die as much you can run with a Zerg and use transit in keeps 🙂 not sure if you knew that. Btw there’s nothing but sweaty 4 stacks with meta gear loadouts waiting for you in BG’s.
@@Sniperjones_007 It's still horse sim even if you're good lol, fights can end faster than it takes for you to ride there, you can ride to a fight just for it to be over by the time it ends. Don't pretend cyro's map isn't massive for how many people there is.Thats especially true when 1 faction has higher population. So Idk what you mean by that
BGs are like 5 min ques on NA and cyrodil is jsut an unbalanced mess of zero even battles.
This entire thread of comments sure hasn’t held up very well. Much like this entire video. Aging like milk 😂😂😂😂
ok but about Cyrodiil
ZoS have fooled us again 😢
Great info.. Thanks..
Zos says they’re listening to feedback, but I have literally never seen anyone ask or comment on battlegrounds, it’s always about cyro. Feels like they’re trying to kill cyro. They’re losing players by ignoring the vet pvpers
I guess it just comes down to where you are looking. I've seen a lot of folks ask for BGs to receive a rework - if you check the forums, a lot of the PVP regulars who articulate their concerns about PVP (beyond just BGs, but things like performance and balance issues) are really* into BGs as well.
Vet pvpers are usually in the wrong in most cases. Maybe ignoring em is for the best
Arttea is my spirit Bosmer.
We need a petition to ZOS to have Artemis as an Imperial-Bosmer Spinner companion, voiced as none-other-than....
Artemis would have two passives for in-the-wild guild trading and drip changes.
High rapport will come from posting high value items in guild traders and changing outfits.
Y'ffre save the Queen of Sass and Snark!
I love that 💛
The majority of regular PvP players are complaining because this update is meant to force some players into a dead content (BG), while ZOS keep neglecting the content that we do play (Grayhost). When you consider the update along the current state of the combat balance (looking at you hardened ward sorc and nbs), tank healing meta and in combat bug, you will see how far the devs are from the pvp players. Devs have abandoned the pvpers and the updates shows it badly.
I hope that when the patch notes drop we will see that some much-needed balance changes and bug fixes have been made. I don't see why we can't receive some refurbished BG content and some balance changes in the same update, so I'll hold off on my disappointment until those patch notes drop ;p
@@Arttea would be a breeze of fresa air... I would not count on it though hehe
The constant magsorc and nb whining kind of gets old at this point. 2 classes that are high skill high reward, unlike Templar, dk, warden w I finite heals and resistances nb and sorc got mobility and yeah the stealth (which can be countered w stealth detect pots, and mage light, and revealing flare) and yeah hardened ward has a ti y heal on it now but it has ALWAYS been like this, and I remember before that little healing got added to ward (which btw it’s expensive) magsorc was considered one of the worst classes for pvp.
So yeah 2 classes that are good dealing damage and have different ways of survival rather than a million hots and burst heals is kind of nice, specially in a meta where everyone is a tank cause everyone is afraid to die.
All clases are op therefore the game is balanced, nb and sorc requiere skill to pull out the shit they do
@@TheJoker-cz2rc i couldnt care less tbh, since I mostly run in ballgroups. I am explaining what is the general feeling among regulars and what have been asked for versus the last updates.
@TheJoker-cz2rc you are comparing 1 button impossible to die to a defensive rotation impossible to die? No class should be able to just not be able to do die (looking at sorc nb and high hp arc & warden)
We will be able to solo queue for competitive 4v4?
Yep! The 4v4 queue accepts groups of up to 4 players.
Still no love for the Bosmer. Gold Road gave one motif and a few furnishings, but Bosmer remain the least respected race by devs in Tamriel.
Now I am a Khajiit main and we get a lot of love, but I have to wonder why there is a second Khajiit companion.
Khajiit x 2
Dunmer x 1
Imperial x 1
Breton x 1
Red Guard x 1
Argonian x 1
Altmer x 1
Bosmer x 0
Osimer x 0
Nord x 0
Since my second favorite character is Bosmer I feel your lack of Bosmer stuff pain.
I think skyrim still has a few parts of the region not released yet. My guess is for sure a Nord and probably an orc.
Ah yes, Banner Bearer...the perfect answer to ball groups.
I adored the 3 team based BGs. It felt different to other games. That being said, I might return to ESO just to try these new ones out. I do hope three team based BGs are not going to dissapear forever and this new addition is just going to extend the options. But with the health of PvP overall, and Battlegrounds especially, I don't think that's going to be the case.
What got me into ESO was PvP and what drove me away was trivial overland which made the stories forgettable, because there was no feeling of achievement. So now I'm hoping for challenging overland since they finally did something new for PvP.
I think the 8v8 will be lots of fun, And since I mostly solo queue for BGs when I do feel like it, I think it'll be nice to have less individual pressure and those Chaos Ball transformations actually look hilarious. Hopefully they do something about matchmaking, because I've found if I queue with friends, they throw you against whatever other play stack is also queued so more often than not if I'm just trying to have a few fun rounds with pals who aren't huge into PVP it's often getting matched against high ranked players who play BGs a lot, which ends up being kind of one-sided a lot of the times.
I kind of feel like ESO's starting to go down a pretty sketchy slope lately; there's no longer Q3 dungeons and Q4 story zones, and I don't feel like what's replaced them is worth it. The quality of the annual chapters doesn't feel more expansive and fulfilling than prior years. Cyrodiil isn't really ever looked at, and it feels like ZOS' only form of balance is introducing new sets that sometimes end up making things worse. Companions being locked into the Crown store is kind of unnerving, and I generally feel like we're getting less meaningful content and less to show for it. Cool, we have skill styles now... What about places to use them? More giant houses and not enough furnishing slots to try and do anything meaningful with them.
I let my ESO+ lapse and I kind of don't see the need to re-up it until I amass enough furniture to work on my houses. Depending on the location and theme, I might not even get the new Chapter when it launches.
Also the very recent chat monitoring AI that's been flagging people for cursing or ERPing in an M-rated game and banning or suspending accounts for things whispered in private or group chats with consenting parties is a huge red flag. I don't know what the hell ZOS is doing lately, but they're going to start hemorrhaging players if they're not smart about it.
These tanky builds really need some nerfs, high level PVP is just immortal gods smacking each other till one side makes a mistake, just a bad experience all around
One idea I always thought eso needs for pvp only is a mega nerf on hp recovery, healing sickness debuff (if you get healed from more then sources all healing received is reduced by 33% or something like that)
A dmg and cc resist debuff depending on how many allies players are around you.
That’s all stuff a game that focuses on Zerg v Zerg fights with like 300v300 battles has implemented (All tho the player number debuff should be bigger)
Albion online.
Unless ur bad at the game ur not running in a Zerg ur 1vXing. Hp recovery has been nerfed, a good pvp build is capable of healing itself without needing a healer, so getting reduced healing from other sources won’t do anything.
@@jpwashere2868 1vx ing is also a lot about movement, breaking line of sight to not get bombarded by there spells. The small towers that are at farms etc should all have a door so that enemies can’t use them unless they capture it or break the doors. Also easy access ti minor defile was removed like 5 years ago when they nerfed shield bash for some reason.
Your editing is Aedra tier❤
That is so kind, ty 🙏💛
I keep telling myself to get back into eso. Think im 871. Last chapter i did was the green sorcerer class with the big eyeball guy. I forget the name
I hardly ever go on the forums so I have no idea about a lot of things that the fans are talking about so I really wonder who asked for 2 team battlegrounds? Was this something that was asked for in 2015?
It's coming up regularly on the topic of Battlegrounds, usually with a comparison with other games. Not necessarily as a majority consensus, but someone will eventually mention it.
The whole combat needs to be like new world's combat system.
"Powerful AssPBFT"
As someone who still sucks at BGs this is not great news. I die alot.. and felt most confident doing Capture the Relic.
Ah dang. Hopefully the more casual 8v8 mode will prove to still be enjoyable for you and allow you the legroom to make mistakes from time to time seeing as your team size is larger and the maps will let you dip in an out of combat a bit easier.
Why can't we just choose which battleground we want to do? We have choice when it comes to dungeons, random or specific, this is not difficult to implement.
We used to be able to, but queue times became incredibly long, unfortunately. If battlegrounds were ever to become super popular again, perhaps being able to choose our game mode would return as an option.
@@Arttea Or, they could allow us to choose and then that way they can see which battlegrounds are popular and tweak the ones that aren't. It's called game development, you know the thing "devs" are supposed to be doing. Also, random dungeons have long queues for dps, choosing specific dungeons is even worse when it comes to queues, the system should still be available regardless.
My animosity about bg's is I'm a pve guy I don't even like pvp. The daily bg has the big reward. So il usually get my 1 dungeon in for that daily then spend the rest of my night trying not to get last in a battle ground which never happens. Only being able to die 5 times sounds like a blessing though
Thank you though for the video though I always enjoy your videos you are my favorite RUclips person
this is insane so good
I burned myself out playing so much, and made no friends. I still like to watch your videos to get my ESO fix..✌
Selling companions in a crown store separately from the chapter is something i expected from Fallout 76 but not from eso. Feels like massive fuck you to everyone who dosnt have eso+ but paid full price for Gold Road. Whats next? Selling access to public dungeons? Pay for side quests?
watch the next companions be only available in crown crates
@@Leisurous bro do NOT give them any ideas 😭
Thanks!
Thank you for the super thanks!
i wish the tree sap legion armor didnt have the bones....it would look so good
is the new companions are free or crown store?
It was announced that the new companions will be purchasable from the crown store.
@@Arttea so sad,but thank you for info
Just found your channel and subbed, great stuff! I just got back into ESO, so your content has helped get caught up.
Right on! Welcome back to ESO 🙏
Yeah, where's that cold/aloof/brooding Ondolemar-look-a-like Altmer companion which should have been added back in the Merethic era?
Great breakdown of the upcoming changes. Love the humour as well 🙂
The devs hate traders. Every time I find something to make some gold with they find a way to ruin it. sux. Great video though, thanks.
I’ve never needed more than like 10k gold and that’s just to change my outfit
The three groups of four players in battlegrounds stops ballgroups from dominating the mode! (The Devs don't know what they are doing!)
It’s a good thing ballgroups can’t all queue into BGs together
Don’t do this to me I dropped the game three years for a lot of reasons but this update is actually tempting me to come back
We get a mega wolf mode but NO MEGA ARGONIAN mode in the update? I no no wan it
OMG, HOW long do we have to wait for HAIR DYE
Some hair dye would be pretty sweet, ngl
Havent played ESO in a while, but your videos keep me well updated and informed, with excelent quality ! Thank you :D
fantastic and informative vid as always you are my number one content creator for the latest Eso info
Yall are going to switch to throne and liberty 🖤
0:01 i can agree with this opinion.The matchmaking system for PvP in eso is just a kinda joke.I did not enjoy playing garbage maps and getting clapped just for 1 team to win just a match which brings some unnessesary amount of AP anyway.I would rather spend that time in Cyrodiil and camp def combos instead of doing this shit BGs.
As someone who heavily PvP’d mostly in cyro for 4+ years, I’m looking forward to this update. I’ve only came back to eso for PvP events over the last two years.
Coming back to a more casual no mmr 8v8 sounds fun af. Jumping in to cyro after so much time off and my balls stick to my gamer chair within 30 seconds. Such a sweat fest in there these days.
Amazing work on this video! Super informative :)
Thanks! :D
not sure if this still is pvp when there is so much rng even inside the 4v4 matches..
mmr reset going to be brutal for pver’s trying to pvp
The pvers (wearing pve sets and the like) that are trying to pvp will likely stick to the standard 8v8 mode as opposed to the competitive 4v4 one.
I do find it ironic that the Devs for this game can't even be bothered to demonstrate its features without resorting to hacks that any player would be perma-banned for using. And the PVE-esque choices they made for the new Chaos Ball TvT BG demonstrate a massive disconnect between what players want and what the Devs want. No one want's their bars forcibly changed in PVP!
Oh and, Alfiq companion when..? (as opposed to the one which can already be bought for crowns, only to uselessly sit in our houses making witty remarks)
Could have at least tagged me in the video Arrtea.
Mom I'm famous, I'm in an Arttea video! ;D
I didn't have time to catch the stream, so this was a really helpful breakdown. Made only more entertaining by your editing and commentary. :)
Yeah, in the end, it's about taste, or personal preference. Although I must say, they sold the new maps, with their more organic and less arena-like contrived layout, really well.
I definitely want the rotating merchant cat as you displayed it 😊
Thanks for the shoutout also during the Companion section! ♥
@@Xylluk ofc! I wanted to use a nice photo of Sharp and I immediately thought of you and all the really nice pics you post of him and your characters on twitter!
So excited for the new battleground's.
Same here, I can't wait to test them out on the PTS next week!!
What a damn disaster. They made us excited with "PVP FEATURE" update after 6 years of nothing and all they do is remove one team from PVP. Idiots run this game. Period.
I've seen a lot of people have this take. If you caught the live stream or watched the 8 minute segment of this recap vid that covered the BG changes and genuinely believe that the *only* thing that we're getting is that there is one less team in BG matches, then I don't think there is anything that the devs could do to appease likeminded peeps. They will always find something to be dissatisfied about. I am with you on the whole waiting 6 years thing though - I do wish the PVP side of things received the attention that it deserves.
@@Arttea I have to disagree with you. Few more maps, few sets, and powerups in BGs. Is that what they were working on for the past 6 years? We're not hard to please, but this update is what other games do in a monthly update. A slight rework of Cyrodil and Imperial city would already be a good start. There's so many ways they can refresh and improve it, but they simply don't care. It's really not that hard. I wonder if you'd be saying the same, if after 6 years of no updates to PVE content, they'd release 6 sets, shrink dungeon group to 3 people, and call it a FEATURE. You're being way too generous with them, and that's why they're getting away with it.
@@KapitanKlaps I don’t PvE, I main PvP. Like I said, I also wish Cyrodiil and IC would receive some love.
I feel this. The fact that they were not capable to release two new BG maps every year always baffled me. There could be so much more PvP content if they paid attention to it. Even some new form of PvP. I always wanted something of a cops and robbers type of mode in cities all over Tamriel, but I guess that's too much to ask for.
I quit the game 2 years ago because the refused the last update for my main content, cyro, that also took like 4 years to develop, was destroyable bridges
Cyro is 70% running around
@@user-me7iw6ft8z that’s definitely what I like the least about cyrodiil 😩 too much running
I think the only time I'll be returning to this game is when they update the animations. Like dude, 2:35 what is that? 😭 I still love this game though. Thanks for the recap!
It was so tempting to add some goofy ahh cartoon running sounds to the track when I saw that shit
8v8 gunna be huge in BGs!
Yessss I'm actually pretty stoked for those! I'll definitely be queueing into the competitive 4v4 mode when I'm playing solo but the 8v8 mode *sounds perfect for battlegrounds event nights with my guild!!
i want homes inside new chapter cities...much more useful
7:17 - 7:22 😂
You comb through twitch chat? Praying for you
Thank you I think I have permanent brain damage now
@@Arttea Great vid btw - keep up the good work!
eso castles artstyle is super uncanny
just the intro made me laugh my ass off
I'm famous. Why do they hate Cyrodiil though
2 new companions for ESO + or paid for crowns.This is piece of shit for how they would add something to the game if i had to pay for.I guess zos missing times when ppl were buying new zone DLCs.....
the whole trading system can be scrapped in my opinion, I do not engage with it at all since it is locked to guilds
Ask 20 people how to "fix" cyro, and you'll get 20 different answers.
Honestly the update is looking way more exciting then expected. I personally like the idea of having leads in IC on a rotating vendor. Would literally make me play pvp more than I normally would. I hope it isn't just for mythic items. If they could include 1 or 2 leads outside of mythic items (especially for the ones like Khenarthi's sweet song and cat's eye where the leads are extremely hard to get) for purchase. They could put some leads in the battlegrounds vendor for alliance points if we wanted to separate the two but all in all I prefer doing pvp matches over endlessly grinding random things in a zone for 2 to 5 hours for a single drop. Stupid codex entries. XD
You vids are way better than the RUclipsrs zos pays!
Oh man, I have some bad news for ya I have accepted sponsorships from ZOS/Bethesda in the past to showcase new content and the like (no reviews, since you legally can't do that), but I always disclose that those vids are sponsored right away (again, I legally have to). So this vid isn't sponsored at all. Anyways, just thought I would clear that up; in all fairness, the sponsorships help pay the bills so that I can keep making these videos and I would argue that the integrity of my content isn't compromised since those sponsored vids are always objective in nature anyways.
Years of pvp waiting and promises for this? 😂 Moving on to another game. What a joke and waste of time