@@schloemo naaah, but like many have to go through the current stock first It’s a matter of time I own an offering v2 And about to slam a -2 headset on it Geo is perfect, does not need to be updated A slacker headset will make it 2025 proof And I still think they ride better than most bikes out there even the recently released
Some people got a lucky glimpse at a production test v4 offering. Just had slight geo updates and frame cargo spot. But seeing as they are still selling V3 (pre LS) Wreckers and Offerings in their outlet section I wouldn't count on a V4 any time soon....
maybe v3 offering? Unless they found the Ls as v3, regardless, that’s all these bikes need, a tad of adjustment in terms of Geo Keeping the nicely guided routing No headset or wireless only crap, solid build kits and wheels Admittedly I wouldn’t mind a smidge more travel on the offering but still
Great review! I have the LS as well, and after almost 1.5 years of ownership I'm still in love. No issues with the frame so far - and one thing to mention is LIFE TIME bearing replacement (1 set a year) from Evil is included with new purchase! It's been a one bike quiver for me and it really does it all from local trails that are mild to wild - and park days. I agree the STA and seating feels a little dated to other bikes in this category especially when climbing technical stuff. Since it hasn't changed much since the V3 release, the new Ripmo & Stumpy 15 category almost perfectly overlaps the Wrecker's geometry profile (minus the E STA) which is interesting. The industry's "Trail/All Mountain" has kinda shifted to what an Enduro sled was a few years back. Either way, this bike eats and it's mega fun to ride. With a PUSH rear shock and a few other minor tweaks, I can't see myself getting rid of it any time soon. Glad to see it still getting some love!
I've always been intrigued as to why you haven't pulled the trigger on an Evil since reviewing the V3 Wreckoning, Insurgent MX and the Offering V2 - you absolutely love them and shred even more so on these than normal!
My evil offering was my absolute favorite bike, but I broke the front triangle twice and honestly, I’m not an expert writer. I would consider myself above average, but not a showstopper by any means. It was my absolute favorite riding bike and I have owned many.
@@sety409 yes I was the second owner. I bought it from the original owner right after the new triangle came in owned the frame for about six months. Sold it and the new owner called me about a week after I sold it with a picture of a very, very small hairline crack on the front triangle under the linkage. He was a 50-year-old dad and I don’t really believe he cracked it, but it had already been enough enough time after I sold it. I’m not sure who cracked it him or me, but I had already spent the money so he was kind of out made me feel really bad. I called evil. Those guys are awesome. They gave me a slightly discounted rate on the front triangle after I told them the story. The new owner called I believe and had the front triangle replaced, but all I’m saying is to Dad‘s in their 40s who live in Texas without extreme terrain managed to break that frame twice two years. I stand by my statement, though one of my most favorite bikes as far as the way it rides.
I think it must be isolated to a specific batch to be honest. Mate of mine had this issue on his coral reefer wreckoning and another had some paint issues, so he got a new rear triangle under warranty. However my Insurgent MX has done a full season in the Port du Solei region in the Alps, riding 6 days a week for 3 months and not had a single issue with it.
Still my fav bike so far, with -1.0 headset and 180mm it's a beast, not very stable and fast for those who ask where the downside is, still, mind fucking blowing bike
I demo'd a Wreckoning this summer at Galbraith and it made me want to throw away all my bikes and go all-in. Evil was selling their demo bikes and the deal was hard to pass up.
I love my wrecker but tbh it climbs like garbage compared to other bikes in it's category. I've run both the v1 v2 and v3 all the same with a push coil. Ridden a bunch of other brands and it's A+ downhill but climbing I'd give it a D for sure.
Have this exact bike. It’s pretty unreal. It’s definitely more travel than I need for local and it makes me go travel and ride gnar more than I used to which I view as a good thing. The only thing I’m struggling with is clearing jumps that require some pedal. With the coil it feels like the speed gets lost. I don’t know how to really boost and maybe it’s time? I’m also gonna try a Vivid air shock on it
The delta thrives on coil, to get nearly the same pop as with an air shock I found myself opening up the rebound more than on the air shock I also got my coil retuned and it’s way poppier than my x2 ever was, along with being incredibly supple and bump eating with way more support
@@TheMTBRider96 Do you mean 'speeding up' the rebound? I have mine at all the way fast and I still can't quite find the pop like I could on my Jade X back on my Rocky Mtn Instinct.
@@TheMTBRider96 Ohhh you're riding a push... bit of a different story haha I think you can really tune those to pop compared to super deluxe. IDK though there may be a way to have RS SD tuned up as well, I just know Push is focused more around custom tunes and promotes allowing a poppy progressive feel to their suspension curve.
Other YT channel reviewer broke his rear triangle twice without crashing. Warrantied.. yes, but it broke 2x so he sold it and moved on. Hope this is fixed now
Do not feel a lack of front to back stability...well try the same chainstay length when you are 1m 90cm tall.....then those 432 chainstays feels damn short and unbalanced...
I just accidentally watched the review from 2020 and realized it didn’t matter because they’re the exact same bikes….. I truly believe Evil won’t be around in 5 years. Hydra hubs are only so cool for so long..
@@virag1132 And yet, the bike feels like it does more than it should on both ends... handles gnar super well and extremely playful and fun on trails that aren't huge. Seattube is a bit annoying but I haven't thought about it at all on the trail. It's a joy to ride. I think Evil's bike designs are just about perfect. I think their service is what is behind. Always pulling teeth with getting order details like spring weight corrected, or touch up paint for paint failing too easily they expect you to pay for that kind of thing. Warranty is OK. No Santa Cruz
For a brief second i skipped a heartbeat thinking it was a review of the V4
Are they going to release a v4? Evil bikes are getting so old at this point. Worried they’re going under. Kinda wild.
@@schloemo naaah, but like many have to go through the current stock first
It’s a matter of time
I own an offering v2
And about to slam a -2 headset on it
Geo is perfect, does not need to be updated
A slacker headset will make it 2025 proof
And I still think they ride better than most bikes out there even the recently released
Some people got a lucky glimpse at a production test v4 offering. Just had slight geo updates and frame cargo spot. But seeing as they are still selling V3 (pre LS) Wreckers and Offerings in their outlet section I wouldn't count on a V4 any time soon....
maybe v3 offering? Unless they found the Ls as v3, regardless, that’s all these bikes need, a tad of adjustment in terms of Geo
Keeping the nicely guided routing
No headset or wireless only crap, solid build kits and wheels
Admittedly I wouldn’t mind a smidge more travel on the offering but still
@@TheMTBRider96if you need to change the head angle by 2 degrees, I’d say the geo is not perfect
I’ve had my offering v2 for 2.5 years now and love every moment of it. Great review!
Great review! I have the LS as well, and after almost 1.5 years of ownership I'm still in love. No issues with the frame so far - and one thing to mention is LIFE TIME bearing replacement (1 set a year) from Evil is included with new purchase! It's been a one bike quiver for me and it really does it all from local trails that are mild to wild - and park days.
I agree the STA and seating feels a little dated to other bikes in this category especially when climbing technical stuff. Since it hasn't changed much since the V3 release, the new Ripmo & Stumpy 15 category almost perfectly overlaps the Wrecker's geometry profile (minus the E STA) which is interesting. The industry's "Trail/All Mountain" has kinda shifted to what an Enduro sled was a few years back. Either way, this bike eats and it's mega fun to ride. With a PUSH rear shock and a few other minor tweaks, I can't see myself getting rid of it any time soon. Glad to see it still getting some love!
I've always been intrigued as to why you haven't pulled the trigger on an Evil since reviewing the V3 Wreckoning, Insurgent MX and the Offering V2 - you absolutely love them and shred even more so on these than normal!
It would honestly be next in line after the firebird for me. The Evil's fit my riding style really well. I always prefer the Evil paint schemes too.
Warm forest tones and pure Evil silence! It’s got the Spencer YEW factor. 🔥
Once again, just amazing, where is that Trail?
My evil offering was my absolute favorite bike, but I broke the front triangle twice and honestly, I’m not an expert writer. I would consider myself above average, but not a showstopper by any means. It was my absolute favorite riding bike and I have owned many.
Out of warranty?
They crack very easily unfortunately…
@@sety409 yes I was the second owner. I bought it from the original owner right after the new triangle came in owned the frame for about six months. Sold it and the new owner called me about a week after I sold it with a picture of a very, very small hairline crack on the front triangle under the linkage. He was a 50-year-old dad and I don’t really believe he cracked it, but it had already been enough enough time after I sold it. I’m not sure who cracked it him or me, but I had already spent the money so he was kind of out made me feel really bad. I called evil. Those guys are awesome. They gave me a slightly discounted rate on the front triangle after I told them the story. The new owner called I believe and had the front triangle replaced, but all I’m saying is to Dad‘s in their 40s who live in Texas without extreme terrain managed to break that frame twice two years. I stand by my statement, though one of my most favorite bikes as far as the way it rides.
I know the evil bike rides like heaven and look the best out of all brands... But have they fixed the rear triangle breaking once a year by now?
I think it must be isolated to a specific batch to be honest. Mate of mine had this issue on his coral reefer wreckoning and another had some paint issues, so he got a new rear triangle under warranty. However my Insurgent MX has done a full season in the Port du Solei region in the Alps, riding 6 days a week for 3 months and not had a single issue with it.
Still my fav bike so far, with -1.0 headset and 180mm it's a beast, not very stable and fast for those who ask where the downside is, still, mind fucking blowing bike
RC car climbing challenge on double black/double down? That’s a new one lol
I have this bike and weigh nearly 200 lbs. I've ridden it with a 450 and 500 coil, but can't decide which is better.
Curious, how would you compare this to the transition spire?
Interesting bike to review, as they seem on their way out. Maybe some attention will keep them going.
Love your reviews
We need a forbidden dreadnought review. I want to hear your thoughts
what filter are you using for the video ?
I demo'd a Wreckoning this summer at Galbraith and it made me want to throw away all my bikes and go all-in. Evil was selling their demo bikes and the deal was hard to pass up.
So sick!👊🏼
What front fender is that?
Anyone have info/experiences of Maven reliability? I am hearing mixed things.
defo watching this one
Evil is still alive?!
where is this trail?
I really don't understand why manufacturers spec bruiser bikes with 32t rings.
I love my wrecker but tbh it climbs like garbage compared to other bikes in it's category. I've run both the v1 v2 and v3 all the same with a push coil. Ridden a bunch of other brands and it's A+ downhill but climbing I'd give it a D for sure.
I love my V3
Question of the day...Wreckoning or Firebird?
Have this exact bike. It’s pretty unreal. It’s definitely more travel than I need for local and it makes me go travel and ride gnar more than I used to which I view as a good thing.
The only thing I’m struggling with is clearing jumps that require some pedal. With the coil it feels like the speed gets lost. I don’t know how to really boost and maybe it’s time? I’m also gonna try a Vivid air shock on it
The delta thrives on coil, to get nearly the same pop as with an air shock I found myself opening up the rebound more than on the air shock
I also got my coil retuned and it’s way poppier than my x2 ever was, along with being incredibly supple and bump eating with way more support
@@TheMTBRider96 Do you mean 'speeding up' the rebound? I have mine at all the way fast and I still can't quite find the pop like I could on my Jade X back on my Rocky Mtn Instinct.
@@IamSeafarer I haven’t tried an instinct so I can’t say
But my push for example full open wasn’t fast enough so I changed the tune on it
@@TheMTBRider96 Ohhh you're riding a push... bit of a different story haha I think you can really tune those to pop compared to super deluxe. IDK though there may be a way to have RS SD tuned up as well, I just know Push is focused more around custom tunes and promotes allowing a poppy progressive feel to their suspension curve.
@@IamSeafarer I had the 2023 super deluxe coil as well, with a proper tune I don’t think it would’ve been That different from the push honestly
Other YT channel reviewer broke his rear triangle twice without crashing. Warrantied.. yes, but it broke 2x so he sold it and moved on. Hope this is fixed now
I had one for a year and a half and went through 4 frames (2 rear triangles and 2 front)
Do not feel a lack of front to back stability...well try the same chainstay length when you are 1m 90cm tall.....then those 432 chainstays feels damn short and unbalanced...
If I could just win the lottery a couple of times. $9000.00 is a bit much.
I just accidentally watched the review from 2020 and realized it didn’t matter because they’re the exact same bikes….. I truly believe Evil won’t be around in 5 years. Hydra hubs are only so cool for so long..
What ever happened to Luke Strobel? He was an icon for Evil.
Yeah his Raw edits were so sick. He left them for Specialized couple years ago.
I remember those days. Icon for sure
thirst
i thought they were goin outa business?
this an ancient design.
crazy short reach
and wicked slack seat angle.
the only good thing about this bike is the lack of a dumb garbage hole in the downtube.
@@virag1132 And yet, the bike feels like it does more than it should on both ends... handles gnar super well and extremely playful and fun on trails that aren't huge. Seattube is a bit annoying but I haven't thought about it at all on the trail. It's a joy to ride.
I think Evil's bike designs are just about perfect. I think their service is what is behind. Always pulling teeth with getting order details like spring weight corrected, or touch up paint for paint failing too easily they expect you to pay for that kind of thing. Warranty is OK. No Santa Cruz
Wasn’t going to say it but I couldn’t help it…….158🫣