Disaster Over Lockerbie - Pan Am Flight 103
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Pan Am Flight 103 was a regularly scheduled Pan Am transatlantic flight from Frankfurt to Detroit via London and New York on 21st December, 1988. 
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A high school friend of mine died on this flight. The irony -- she wasn't scheduled originally to get on this flight, but a later one that day. Eager to get home to the States, a Pan Am rep got her a seat on this flight. My friend's death tore the family apart. One parent blamed the other, vice versa. They divorced. A few days after the crash, the parents got a post card from their, mailed from the departure airport, saying she loved them and would be home soon.
Nickhead87 and death even more weird, considering the havoc it wreaks both on the dead and the survived
That's common, actually. Grief can do terrible things to people.
@Nickhead87 that happens to alot if not most parents who children die especially when its young children.
Russell Garr very sorry for your friend’s death. And condolences to her family.
Tragic
Now today is the 30th anniversary. May those 270 men, women, and children rest in peace.
I Think Is 2 Or 3 Children But Rest In Pest
so sad
How can they Rest In Peace until there is Peace in our World?
Just what kind of immoral person have you been taught to be, to say such a statement?
I mean, with 16,000 crying children Every Single Day, starved to painful death, in spite of the fact there is plenty of food in our world, did they get a fair Piece of what is here or were they casualtes of war, just as then plane?
The fact that some people were found conscious on the floor is scary and crazy. Just like twa 800 , the passengers in the back must have seen to much and I read somewhere that some passengers were holding hands when the plane fell. The fear and the thoughts going through those people he’d just have been absolutely horrendous.
I don't think it's true... they probably lost their consciousness up there already...
It makes me sorta hope that they were killed instantly from the breakup so they didn’t have to suffer and go through the fear and terror of falling 31,000 feet out of the sky..
Sources, anyone? This is intriguing
Didnt the video just said there were 2 survivor but died during rescue..?
Adrenaline mustve keep them alive, but theyre body is mangled what a horrible way to die
I was at the Pan Am terminal at JFK the next day. That place was like a tomb. It was so tragic. RIP victims of Pan Am 103. Just like September 11th, 2001, gone but never forgotten.
How nice to not have to listen to overbearing music while watching one of these
Well, thanks for putting the pilot face on this video, never seen it before 👍
Hello all. My name is Michael. I was 18 months old at the time of my dear friend's passing - he was a passenger who was making his way home for the holidays. Last year, I paid my respects to the 269 persons on the plane and those 11 souls who died on the ground in Lockerbie. I haven't talked to many people about this disaster, but I truly appreciate the outreach of those who know tragedy. Thank you for your courage- those who fell to the earth on the night of December 21, 1988 will always be in my hearts
18 months old and a dear friend ????, also 259 on board, not 269
I had a neighbor, two doors down, whose husband was on this flight.
Also, a man worked in my company in my office, whose son was one of the Syracuse students. What are the odds I would personally know two families who suffered through this? For the neighbor widow, I always went to her house and did her driveway and sidewalks every time it snowed. It was all I could do for her. She was so deeply affected. She also had a very young daughter (a year or two old) when this happened.
Choco Latte good person
There is currently an appeal gone in to SCCRC on this case.
Coming from a snowy region myself, I know that what you did meant a lot to her. It was one less thing for her to handle while raising her child alone and grieving.
He could be lying just making a story
@@brodiexd8866 you are a knob
My 1st cousin and her husband of 6 months perished in this bombing. I did end up visiting Lockerbie and met with the village constable and minister who gave us a tour of sorts. All of the people we met were salt of the earth, decent and kind. Before this the town was known only for it’s butter factory! Nothing more to say except I coincidentally came upon this video 33 years to the day later. God speed cousin and to everyone who was lost that devastating night.
I was there in Scotland the night of this disaster, only about another 10 minutes further on from it's scheduled flight path.
We were all in absolute shock and disbelief that such a tragedy should befall those poor souls on board and the victims below in Lockerbie. In Scotland, they will never be forgotten.
To think that 2 possibly survived the initial impact only to die minutes/hours later is beyond my comprehension. So many lives lost, for what? Life is brutal.
@Chairman Jao Bai Den Yes it would be.
And short.
@Chairman Jao Bai Den No it was revenge for bombing Libya and killing Gadaffi's daughter, well deserved if you ask me.
1 person DID survive (a flight attendent), and was found by a farmers wife, but later died before any help could be summoned.
I can't believe they released the killer on "compassionate grounds". Where was the "compassionate grounds" for the 270 people he murdered!!!!
Was just going to post the same comment. He was able to enjoy 3 years of freedom before death. I'm sure most of the victims would have enjoyed an additional three years, but because of his heinous act, they cannot.
I note the following comments from the flog 'em and hang 'em brigade: Even public execution believe it or not. However, there was always doubt about the guilt of Abdelbaset al-Megrahi. The best amateur authority on this was Dr Jim Swire, of Bromsgrove. Worcestershire, UK. (Medical doctor.) His daughter died in the tragedy and he spent the rest of his life investigating it. He visited Abdelbaset al-Megrahi in gaol several times and developed a relationship with him. He was never convinced of Megrahi's guilt. He also was convinced that the CIA were involved in some way. He only ever wanted the truth but died unsatisfied. It appears from the comments following that ther are people who would be happy to subject an innocent person to utterly barbaric deaths to satisfy their punishment lust than to be curious enough to want to know exactly what happened.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Swire
And : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdelbaset_al-Megrahi
It's a bit complicated for those who have already executed him but....
@@MBKindell I wasn't making a general point about capital punishment. Just the point that the man who knew most about the event had doubts about Abdelbaset al-Megrahi's guilt. I have a question for you. Is it OK to execute an innocent person just because enough people are baying for it?
In this circumstance, I hate it when people say that these people lost their lives. They didn’t lose them, they were stolen from them.
Lane_X Technically yes, but what do you suggest saying they got their life stolen? Losing a life means death so even tho he stole your life you still died.
No one wants to lose their life.. it is always stolen
Unless you are suicidal. Eitherway if your life get ”stolen” you would say someone took a life. That being said you also lose your life as a result. So it’s perfectly fine to say these people lost their lives or saying the murderer took all their lives.
Losing someone to an illness is hard, but to violence is a whole other level of pain, or so I always hear.
Semantics 🤐
Rest in peace Kesha Weedon. October 2 2018 would have been her 50th Birthday.
Well that escalated quickly...
My thoughts too! I was like "okay they're flying, i wonder what's going to be the dis-" *Plane explodes* "oh"
no wonder the video was so short this time
That really got of hand fast
I said the exact same thing!
Went from 0-100 real fucking quick
Who lives in a pineapple under the sea
Malaysian Airlines Flight 103
Released on "compassionate grounds"????? Shows the sickness of societies to not only allow a man responsible for killing 270 people avoid the death penalty but actually release him instead of letting HIM rot until dead.
DrHarryT
Indeed. I remember when the news reported this and I was stunned.
This perp didn't care about the hundreds of lives he took, why in the world should we care about his life. I'm actually surprised that someone from one of the victim's families didn't take him out after he was released before he could die peacefully.
Tennents n Grouse he’s still alive now. And prostate cancer does not rot away anything other than the prostate.
Libya = oil . Brits = no oil. Let's make a deal.
A Shell
1 second ago
So he kills 270 people. Those were dads, moms, sisters, brothers, aunts, uncles, & now no grandkids, weddings & the pain & suffering goes on to this day & forever & somehow the best solution is to let him go home after committing such a crime? And to make it worse you have the audacity to somehow justify this action? You give this worthless POS freedom? The real crime is that you weren't on that plane. Better yet you & your family, or your kids if any women would have anything to do with you. I don't give a flying duck if you have the death penalty in your POS country. That MF should've rotted in prison you A-Hole & FU don't bother responding no one gives a crap what you have to say you, stupid moron.
Tennents n Grouse
That's possibly why the court let him out. Thinking that actual justice (by the victim's families) would eventually be dispensed. If I was one of the family members I would have brought the perp to justice.
I remember this day when i was 10 years old, a day i will never forget
I remember this night so vividly. I was 8 years old and lived just a bit further north near another airport. I watched it on the TV and my young brain couldn't fully comprehend the tragedy. But I developed a terrible fear when aeroplanes flew over my house. One night a 747 was night training and it was so low and so loud I thought it was going to crash into my house. I'll never forget that noise. God love those poor people on flight 103 and the people on the ground too. So so sad.
I lived in Lockerbie for the first few years of my life and I know many of the firefighters who went to check out the scene. I wasn't alive when the attack happened but I know many who were. What isn't brought up often is how quickly the CIA showed up, some of the locals I have talked to say that the CIA showed up before local police, even though their nearest HQ is very far away. The town has progressed very far and continues to do so, but the bombing will never be forgotten.
I was 16 years old visiting Germany from Detroit when news broke of this horror. Had the terrorists chosen the 23rd I would have perished aboard the flight. It's been nearly 32 years now, and it looks like another terrorist is about to face justice for this. Better late than never. My thoughts and prayers continue to go out to the families who lost loved ones in the tragedy, and the countless others who were scarred by the events.
I lived about 1 mile out of Lockerbie when this happened and the whole sky just went orange. I also had a few police and army men and women staying at my house for a while.
There are some truly evil human beings on this earth ..
RIP to all who died 😢
@Chairman Jao Bai Den yeah fuck off douche, he was paid by his goverment you twat
@@theimperialfistsspacemarin3050 magine responding to a year old reply...
@@lightskinjahseh2459 imagine taking time out of your day to tell someone on a youtube comment section that he should be embarresed because the comment hes replying to is a year old
Dude, I just subscribed to your channel. I love learning about airplane disasters and these are great simulations! Keep it up!
XPilot Good Vids Ive been waiting For Pm103 For a Long Time And You Finnaly Made It!!
Rip those who died. 🙏
I waited for this video for a long time. Nice job!
A lady that worked for the same company my mom worked for died on this flight. They didn't know each other far as I'm aware but I remember mom talking about it one nite.
I remember being at home when the first 'Newsflash' (as they were called in those days) came up on the BBC saying it was believed a jumbo jet had crashed into a petrol station in Scotland. Horrific. It could have easily been over us if it had followed it's original route. RIP to all souls lost
Besides the aerial footage my late grandfather and my father filmed the rest. They were the first news crew on scene. At the time they both stayed just outside Dumfries, around 12miles away from Lockerbie. I was 2months to the day old when this tragic event happened. My dad cant talk about what he saw without breaking down almost 33 years later. But what he has told me I wouldn't wish anyone to see. They arrived around 35-40mins after the impact and stayed on scene for 3days. RIP to all who lost their lives. 🏴❤💙
Your video quality keeps getting better and better! Bravo!
My girlfriend’s uncle was on this flight, he was only 20 years old coming home for Christmas break. Just crazy what humans are capable of.
horrific..My dear friend you made a great video.Congratulations
30 years ago today. May all 270 rest in peace.
I don't think I've ever been this EARLY for an Xpilot video!
I was born in December of 1988 and my parents brought me home from hospital on the day of Lockerbie. Absolutely tragic but these videos are fascinating. God rest all those who died that day.
My ex was born December 21 1988 19:05, 3 minutes after the disaster started and only 90 seconds after impact. I know hundreds were born in those few minutes around the world but it's still a chilling thought.
@@develynseether4426 Chilling indeed though if you believe in re-incarnation, The souls oft the people who died in the crash lived on.
Fun Fact.
"Clipper Maid of the Seas" was the first B747 ever to land at London Heathrow.
No it wasnt, I flew home on that in the 73.
I like the new introduction format, with the pictures
My dad had to pick up the remains from this crash. He left the RAF after because it traumatised him.
So sorry to hear. An absolute tragedy that affected everyone. Take care
Lol
Horrific tragedy over Scotland 30 years ago.
My cousin died on this flight. It ruined Christmas forever.
This flight fits so much with the song
As the world caves in... For me.
Thank you for posting this video. My best friend died on this flight. I keep thinking how young she was and how she, her older sister, and parents all were tragically killed by a terrorist who later was released on "compassionate grounds." I remember hearing about this on the news and it made me sick to my stomach. Why should he receive compassion when my best friend, and all the others onboard the Pan Am flight received no compassion? I believe the video was very well done and I like the fact that X Pilot shows no bias in posting these videos, just the clear facts. I actually watched all the videos posted and am really amazed in the dedication and thought that went through each one. Because of this I became the newest subscriber.
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I remember this on the news as a kid. There were so many terrorist attacks through the 80's here in the UK
The Left and Liberal's are the only fools who welcome these people. They cheer for the enrichment of a multicultural , modern Britain.
The vastly different cultures and morals crash against each other, which will then cause one mother of a clusterfuck.
It will be left to the rest of us to clean up again and fix the mess left behind.
Fuck both y'all wish y'all were on this plane instead of innocent and maybe non racist people
The safety engineers know what they are doing. That fence held big time and did its job
RIP
To the passengers and crew of Pan Am Flight 103 and to the 11 people who were killed on the ground
My father was supposed to be on this flight , he missed it , cause he was getting my mother’s engagement gift , he refused to leave without it . He missed his flight & my mother ; home in the states had his itinerary , knew it was his flight she was horrified & didn’t sleep for 2 days believing my father was dead as she hadn’t heard from him & learned there were NO survivors . My dad catching the next flight shortly after . Not knowing what happened . Arrived home , & my mom informed him of what happened , my dad was terrified. & didn’t fly for 18 years .....
That's quite a story. Your Dad's lucky day I suppose.
That flight is very popular with soldiers going home and coming back. I was actually supposed to be on that flight, but had to cancel it because I disrespected an officer. I had extra duty for two weeks.
I believe you.
Those two weeks gave you a lot of years
He is correct, left Germany in December of 87 after a 3 year tour ,same flight same route
I miss pan am :(
Thank you X Pilot for another one of your fantastic videos! You really are the best when it comes to recreating these horrific air tragedies! Happy Holidays to you! usmale49 Denver, Colorado (12/20/2018)
Released on grounds of compassion. The bomber didn't show any compassion. That is disgusting how governments think. It's sickening.
The general feeling is he didn’t do it, snd he was convicted to appease the public. I can’t say for sure but there’s a tacit acceptance he wasn’t guilty as usually someone who kills 250 people will be buried under the jail
Scottish people are nice humans
Thanks for taking the time in uploading your videos! WOW! He was released on grounds for compassion?
Hachikō
Indeed. That is insanity in and of itself. Too bad one of the victims family members didn't get to this perp before he could die of natural causes.
Thanks for replying back to my comment! I was at work, I remembered this when it happened! My dad had 5 girls, and for some unknown reason, I became infatuated with ships, airplanes, motorcycles, and cars..lol
Hachikō
So you're the tomboy of the group? As a guy you're more fun to be around anyway much more fun to climb trees than put on finger nail polish.
Yeah, you could say that! I would follow my dad around wherever he went. He would asked to me to go with him to be his assistant in handing his tools, and to keep him company. He liked helping people, who couldn't afford to take their vehicles to a mechanic, whatever it may be, he would repair. I do my own maintenance on my car, hand wash it, wax, detail it inside-and-out. He also taught me how to ride motorcycles, too! He passed away when I was young, and my mother, who passed away 2 years later.
Hachikō
He sounded like he was a great Dad, teaching his children self reliance and you probably were his favorite even if he couldn't admit that. So sorry for his early passing and your mother's as well. I hope you're still close with your sisters, family is really everything in the end.
My Brother-in-law knew some of the SU students in this disaster.
School teacher Jonathan White, son of actor David White was on board.
David White played Larry Tate on the 60's TV series, "Bewitched".
David died in 1990 of an apparent heart attack...
this was the beginning of the end for pan am
Technically the 70s was the beginning of the end for Pan Am. They were laying off A list employees and sold off most of their routes and fleet to pay for fuel costs since the 70s was the beginning of terrorist attacks on planes and the oil crisis
2:40 That's even worse. Most of these kinds of crashes where the plane is obliterated none survives but in this people survived but died before rescue came.
Wow, and I never heard of it.
One of my clients, living in Bethesda MD, was on this flight. I continued working for his widow.
I guess it depends on age and location in the world. I was only 6 but being British remember all the adults talking about it and saw the paper my parents read the following day.
Love this video.
Idk if you do these videos based on requests, but is there a chance you can do "High Rise Catastrophe" (El Al Flight 1862) and "Sight Unseen" (Charkhi Dadri Mid-Air Collision)?
That someone or a group of people would kill innocent people is just pure evil.
You can only imagine the horror of those moments after the explosion. rip.
They said some survived the descent and one flight attendant was found with a pulse initially. Can’t imagine that fear of falling from the sky.
I heard a suspect was taken into custody today. I hope we get more of the story after all these years.
David White from Bewitched his son was on this flight
I live in Lockerbie and my dad found an old coin in our garden,
May the souls of the passengers and crew aboard Pan Am Flight 103 Rest In Peace.
I can't imagine falling 31k feet just horrible.
Ppl keep referring to the thing that did this as a "man." What an insult. This unclean creature walked on two legs maybe, but it most certainly was not a man.
An error of judgement imo by the Scottish "government" to release him on compassionate grounds. That Scottish village will forever be known for this tragedy. Sad.
It’s terrible when you google Lockerbie first image is a photo of the plane wreckage
Have there been any close call incidents where the pilot pulls up almost hitting the ground or ones where 2 planes nearly collide in the sky? If so, would you recreate them?
The victims were coming home for Christmas, some of them are students.
I couldn’t imagine the horror.
The Scottish gvm releases him upon compassionate grounds when he don’t deserve any compassion or even have the right to utter the word.
He’s responsible for the death of 270 souls and a lifetime imprisonments were already too overly compassionate towards him,
when he should’ve sent to death as immediate.
There were no justice for the innocent souls of the victims. They died for nothing. Thier life were meaningless, as if they deserved it.
Ironically, thier murderer were celebrated under the word compassionate.
The whole things is wrong. What a world we’re living in.
I’m so sorry to all the victims family and friends.
RIP to victims.
228candy thank you so much for sharing. When this tragedy happened, I was just turned 1 yr old. And learn about it 32 yrs later. It was so shoking that the more I learned about this tragedy, the more complicated it gets to find the real culprits behind it. I just hope that one day, the real truth will prevails and justice could finally serve.
May all the victims souls rest in piece. 💞
Deadly terrifying pray for these people❤😭☹
What happened to the sad piano music that normally plays at the end?
RIP to those lost.
Have you made a video about captain Sully? If so can you link it?
I live in Denison, Texas where Sully was born and raised. His mother was my ex wife’s first grade teacher. We are proud of him here. There’s a nice mural painted on the side of a building downtown in his honor. He’s a true hero.
"You are identified". An then suddenly the Point on the Radar disseapears.
Another Question did they first said the flight is delayed or canceled? How they display a oncoming flight that is completly vaporised with no survivors? I mean they have to explain to a lot of families that their loved ones wont come back. Who will tell them or how they will know about that?
And WTF really? Toshiba BOMBeat? Who would know that the Recorder not even have the Word Bomb but also a real Bomb inside. Thats creepy.
This happened a few days after I got home from college for Semester break and I couldn't help but think of the families that were waiting for their loved ones that never made it home. America was too soft on state sponsored terror.
2:15 me when i play my toy plane and hit my brother
DO WE NEED A JOKE IN SUCH A TRAGIC VIDEO
This plane go boom
R. I. P
You really should do a P3D Remake of the 9/11 Attacks, with more details, it just couldn't be anything else than *AWESOME* .
I dont see anyone talking about how Gadaffi responded to it. He accepted the fact that it was a terrorist attack from Libya, and even sent money.
What do you use to make these? What Simulator?
Hey mate, really like your videos. Could you do one on flight 1907 Gol Airlines from 2006. Would be really cool, thanks!
I live right next to where the bombers family were staying in Scotland during the trial
Any idea who the 4 US govt. Personnel were ?
Id never heard of this until this week when i read they got the guy who made the bomb. This is beyond horrific but im more surprised ive never heard of it.
Can you say me what simulator you used?
It looked like a whole meteor hit the town.
"At least two on board survived the initial impact..." Yes they died before being rescued but even that in itself is almost beyond comprehension. Does that mean they survived the fall? Again, almost beyond comprehension. Had they been awake, how they must've suffered for those awful final moments. They must certainly have been unconscious. RIP.
they were believed to have had a chance because when examined their bodies had relatively minor injuries, one only having broken legs. Suggesting that somehow during the fall something slowed the descent/cushioned the impact enough to not sustain injuries enough to cause immediate death, but died as a result of exposure to the elements/blood loss from injuries
I believe they also stated that if 2 people with identical injuries were taken into hospital following a car crash the chances of survival would be quite likely
Life in prison?!! That's it??!!
Why wouldnt it be? i want my tax money going to keeping him alive in prison.
Does this need to be updated after AG Barr released a statement about the bomb maker a few days ago?
How can you survive the initial impact of something like that?? Even only briefly??
Lesley Wynter As It turns out you actually can, but rarely. It is possible.
Lesley Wynter Yeah it was worth it, miracles do happen.
Clipper Maid of the Seas..rest in peace to all who perished that terrible night..😰😥😪😭😭😭💝🎈🎈
3:18 a bomb was placed in a bombeat? I wonder if the guy building it specifically chose that one cause of the name
Can you please make the video of Korean Air 858?
3:23 Tosiba Bombeat? Wow, you couldn't make that up!
What is that crash animation from??
Air crash investigation (UK) I believe it's called Mayday in the US.
Cassette recorder with the bomb was a Toshiba bombeat sf16 what an appropriate name brand
Well that was sudden.
That was my birthday!
I always remember things like this when politicians and celebrities decry 'ignorant' members of the public for their 'Islamaphobia'. This isn't a one-off.
@@LoudPet636 OK mate, I'll talk. When you're done insulting me that is.
@@LoudPet636 "out of context" - Lol the complete delusion. In what other way can "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve So strike above the necks and strike off every fingertip of theirs” be interpreted? I suppose you can also put into context why Muhammad married a 6 year old, yeah?
Krzyzstof Polecat, yes that's because Islamophobia is very rampant nowadays. The current US President certainly falls under the category of an Islamophobe. You idiots think you're smart when you paint Islam as a terrorist religion. You probably know less about Islam than a rock
Krzyzstof Polecat, "ignorant" is exactly what I see here.
It's just the dipshits who think that what they are doing is for their religion
poor sod who lost their house and back garden