What he said: if it's almost imposible, don't stress about it, just say "и" instead of "ы" What I got: if it's almost imposible, don't stress about it, just say "i" instead of "i"
This is something we can never learn from the textbooks and your teaching skill is awesome! Russian language is completely different from my mother tongue, but as you said, I will practice, practice and practice! Your viewers appreciate much more than you think! 😘😘😘 Thank you so much. ❤❤❤
Thanks for this! I just started learning Russian and your demonstration of how to do Ы was really so helpful. Nobody has explained it that well! Thanks again!
after watching alot of video and stress myself regarding this letter finally i watched ur video that helped me to understand its ok if i just say и, tnx so much for ur video that made this really easy for me , i love ur videos pls keep continue...
I've been trying to learn Russian for about a week now and i just found your videos, Ы was really confusing because i couldn't find a good description on the sound anywhere, i ended up pronouncing it like "ooee" this really helped me. I find you're videos really entertaining and informative, thank you for making them.
I just started diving into the Russian language and I just want to say Большое спасибо!!!!!!! I really appreciate the way you have broken down some of the hardest things for me to pick up. I think the alphabet is primary to learn rather than just diving into different words and translations.
I don't even know how many videos I've watched to try to learn how to pronounce "ы" and this one was BY FAR the clearest, most simplest method of doing it. And probably the shortest lesson too. Really enjoying this channel, thank you.
I started my exploration of Russian by learning the alphabet and trying to learn how to pronounce them all. Now it's been more than a year and I'm making another attempt at и and ы. Some days I'm just resigned to always having a spectacularly bad accent in Russian. Some days, like today, I think maybe I'll get there. I always enjoy your videos, Fedor. Your kind and friendly manner make learning the language seem more approachable. Thank you.
The problem with a lot of language videos is that they try to teach speakers by approaching them as a teacher with a linguistics background. Speakers don't really want this, and not everyone has a knowledge of the tongue and lip positions. The "Ы" sound is pretty much the 'i" sound in the American pronunciations for "this" or "thin" (especially the latter word). Just isolate this sound by dropping the "th" sound at the beginning, and you're 99% of the way there. Don't bother with complicated explanations of lip and tongue placement. That may be useful afterwards, but it is more useful to leverage existing language knowledge (American English) and work from familiar territory.
As a follow-up to my earlier comment, I think the OP's explanation of even the "i" sound is confusing, tbh. It may not be clear to English or other language speakers what "i" he is referring to - the Russian "i" or the English "eeh". When I pronounce either the Russian "i" or the English "eeh", my tongue is floating in the middle of my mouth and doesn't touch my bottom teeth, so not everyone uses the same positions he uses, yet he uses this sound as a "jumping off" point for the "Ы" sound. A better strategy (at least for English speakers) is to use English as a starting point, since it has plenty of sounds, and this includes a very close, equivalent to the "Ы" sound. In fact, words like "thin" , "this", or "six" basically nail the "Ы" sound, particularly when Russians speak rapid, conversational Russian, as the "Ы" sound returns slightly (but almost unnoticeably) closer to an "i" sound and the depth of the "Ы" sound may even become less accentuated in conversation.
Omg! What a wonderful way to explain it!!.....I had been trying to say it 4 so long n had given up.....Thanks a ton Fedor!! 👏👏👏👏👏.....I must say u r the best teacher on the you tube.
This is easily the best explanation of the difference between these two letters that I've come across yet and also the easiest explanation about how to actually physically make the two sounds and what is different. Thanks! -an american who has found it nearly impossible to say ы
My Russian tutor said that Ы is like И if you've just been punched in the stomach and left badly winded. That sort of helped, weirdly! This video also helped a lot, thanks! :-)
I am using Rosetta Stone. I try to get in at least an hour per day. Your videos help me to understand when and why letters are replaced. I think that is one drawback the software has.
thanks for your videos! my parents come from russia but I was born and raised in Germany. I'm 22 years old and only now starting to learn Russian properly. your videos help me immensely :)
I'm studying Russian and I found the letter Ы very easy to pronounce, as I'm Brazilian, this sound already exists in Portuguese, as in the word "tia", pronounced in Russian as "тыя".
Finnaly i can speak that haha you explain very well. The one that are hard to me say, 'cause the rest are very similiar with my native language (Brazilian Portuguese)
My Russian professor would stick a pencil in my mouth (horizontally so it acted like a horses bit) and make me bite down when trying to say Ы if I mispronounced the sound and it truly helped. I can say both sounds correctly. It makes keeping your tongue in the back of your mouth VERY easy
Sounds И and Ы are like, it's true. However, there are words that can cause confusion. For example, мишка (name or little bear) and мышка (little mouse).
Why does ы sound like 2 vowels in some words? For example, in мы, it always sounds like mui to me, but when ы is in the middle (or end) of longer words, its like the sound you make when you just pronounce the letter itself.
Most non Slavics don’t know that ъi is comprised of ъ i. ъ=u like in uncle/sun and i=и like E in he. It’s more of a diphthong than a actual letter. So, start by saying u like in ummmm and transition to i (E) like he. Practice until you have it fast enough to, and there you go, ъi=ы
I would say, you don't need to practice letter Ы by itself, it's better to concentrate on combinations of letters like пы, ты, сы ры etc. Just because we don't have any words starting with ы.
I know I'm some four and a half years late to seeing and commenting on this video. And you did a great job of explaining and demonstrating how to pronounce the "bl" sound. I'm just a beginner, mind you, but it seems to me that, in differentiating between the two sounds, the bl is very much like the "i" in the English word "is". Isn't it? Did I not just produce the sound in those three consecutive words? I'm not saying it's exactly right, but am I really close to what it sounds like?
I usually say it really fast as sounding like the mix of the letter (no russian keyboard) oo (y) and the letter i (backwards N). *ooee* does that work?
А почему некоторые говорят, что у них типа вообще нет этого звука. Хотя частично же они произносят, допустим sit, bit. Да не так твердо и жестко, но звук же есть.
Привет Фёдор! Thanks for your great videos. They are helpful. May be и is related to "i" and ы is related to ъ"i". и ы у seemed related, tongue-wise. For example, ти ты ту, ти ту ты ... It will be helpful if you could produce a video on "How to figure out unstressed o and stressed o in Russian Language" as they are distinctive different, sound-wise. I have yet to see a video on this. May be it is too challenging a task. May be there is hardly a logic to it. My initial findings are: 1. majority of adverbs with "o" as last letter is pronounced as unstressed o such as важно. Exception are смешнO, хорошO ... 2. many "o" after "п" appeared unstressed such as поэт, по-русски, пойди, поезжай Exception are пOсле, пOчта, пOмните, ... 3. many "o" after "р" appeared stressed such as хорOшая книга, в некоторOм царстве, ... Exception are гOрод, ... 4. some "o" after "д" appeared stressed such as дOброе утро, дOбрый день, ... Exception are добрO пожаловать, домOй ... 5. some "o" after "к" appeared stressed such as молокO, шкOла Exception are комOд, ... 6. some "o" after "ск" appeared stressed such as скOлько ... 7. some "o" after "кр" appeared stressed such as открOйте ... ... I may be wrong, your expertise is required ! Thanks
Him: move your tongue backwards
Me: Starts making demonic noises
I just had a solid 5 minute laughing fit after reading this comment because I can relate!
@@dianecorley3270 hahah you're welcome.
let me guess...Meme Lord?
aaaaahhh, guy I'm crying, LMAO :))))))))))))))))
LMFAOOOOO
What he said: if it's almost imposible, don't stress about it, just say "и" instead of "ы"
What I got: if it's almost imposible, don't stress about it, just say "i" instead of "i"
AAHAHJWJAJAJA the same here
🤣
То чувство, когда просто стало интересно, как иностранцы изучают русский язык)
TheAlexBaw ага
By the same way Russians learn other languages :)
@@Scrlttdtне знаю
Я француский учу вроде нормально
This is something we can never learn from the textbooks and your teaching skill is awesome! Russian language is completely different from my mother tongue, but as you said, I will practice, practice and practice!
Your viewers appreciate much more than you think! 😘😘😘 Thank you so much. ❤❤❤
Thanks for this! I just started learning Russian and your demonstration of how to do Ы was really so helpful. Nobody has explained it that well! Thanks again!
When you already have ы sound in your language and you watch English people struggling
lmao
Polish? Or what
Chilling in Vietnamese, watching English speaker suffering.
P/s: "ы" is "ư-i" in Vietnamese
yery
@@wall2936 iy in english
0:33 What I hear: just say “e” instead of “e”
after watching alot of video and stress myself regarding this letter finally i watched ur video that helped me to understand its ok if i just say и, tnx so much for ur video that made this really easy for me , i love ur videos pls keep continue...
I've been trying to learn Russian for about a week now and i just found your videos, Ы was really confusing because i couldn't find a good description on the sound anywhere, i ended up pronouncing it like "ooee" this really helped me. I find you're videos really entertaining and informative, thank you for making them.
You're most welcome! Thank you so much:) happy to help!
i heared what this sound "ы" have historcial origin from long "u","oo" :>
Oh, so that's the difference between the "ы" sound and the "и" sound... I could notice they were kinda different, but had no clue how xD
guilherme barbosa
I’m slovenian and we use both of these 2 words. But we don’t type it differently like they do...
We type Igra and Miš
We say it differently then, just typing stays hahaha never noticed that lol
These sounds on turkey, so its easy for me.
I truly appreciate when you add in not to super stress if pronunciation is a bit off because we can still be understood. Makes me less anxious lol
I just started diving into the Russian language and I just want to say Большое спасибо!!!!!!! I really appreciate the way you have broken down some of the hardest things for me to pick up. I think the alphabet is primary to learn rather than just diving into different words and translations.
I don't even know how many videos I've watched to try to learn how to pronounce "ы" and this one was BY FAR the clearest, most simplest method of doing it. And probably the shortest lesson too. Really enjoying this channel, thank you.
This series has been great! Thanks again Fedor!
いろんな先生の説明を見てきたけど、過去最高にわかりやすい!!
I started my exploration of Russian by learning the alphabet and trying to learn how to pronounce them all. Now it's been more than a year and I'm making another attempt at и and ы. Some days I'm just resigned to always having a spectacularly bad accent in Russian. Some days, like today, I think maybe I'll get there.
I always enjoy your videos, Fedor. Your kind and friendly manner make learning the language seem more approachable. Thank you.
The problem with a lot of language videos is that they try to teach speakers by approaching them as a teacher with a linguistics background. Speakers don't really want this, and not everyone has a knowledge of the tongue and lip positions.
The "Ы" sound is pretty much the 'i" sound in the American pronunciations for "this" or "thin" (especially the latter word). Just isolate this sound by dropping the "th" sound at the beginning, and you're 99% of the way there. Don't bother with complicated explanations of lip and tongue placement. That may be useful afterwards, but it is more useful to leverage existing language knowledge (American English) and work from familiar territory.
As a follow-up to my earlier comment, I think the OP's explanation of even the "i" sound is confusing, tbh. It may not be clear to English or other language speakers what "i" he is referring to - the Russian "i" or the English "eeh". When I pronounce either the Russian "i" or the English "eeh", my tongue is floating in the middle of my mouth and doesn't touch my bottom teeth, so not everyone uses the same positions he uses, yet he uses this sound as a "jumping off" point for the "Ы" sound.
A better strategy (at least for English speakers) is to use English as a starting point, since it has plenty of sounds, and this includes a very close, equivalent to the "Ы" sound.
In fact, words like "thin" , "this", or "six" basically nail the "Ы" sound, particularly when Russians speak rapid, conversational Russian, as the "Ы" sound returns slightly (but almost unnoticeably) closer to an "i" sound and the depth of the "Ы" sound may even become less accentuated in conversation.
Omg! What a wonderful way to explain it!!.....I had been trying to say it 4 so long n had given up.....Thanks a ton Fedor!! 👏👏👏👏👏.....I must say u r the best teacher on the you tube.
Thank you so much in explaining these two sounds! And you demonstrate it so well! Definitely a gold-mine when learning the pronunciations!😃👍
This is easily the best explanation of the difference between these two letters that I've come across yet and also the easiest explanation about how to actually physically make the two sounds and what is different. Thanks! -an american who has found it nearly impossible to say ы
Very clear explanation and I like the pace so I'll try more of your videos. I'm a beginner and from Ireland, BTW.
Best explanation on RUclips. Thank you so much, now I can make that sound.
You and me both, brother.
You are a fantastic teacher. Best language teacher on YT.
2:13 You said English, but I think you meant Russian '~'
Whatever though
wow, your explanation how to pronounce ы is the best ever! спасибо большое из Японии ))
Спасибо Fedor... your videos are awesome!
My Russian tutor said that Ы is like И if you've just been punched in the stomach and left badly winded. That sort of helped, weirdly! This video also helped a lot, thanks! :-)
I am a brazilian who is learning russian and your video helped me a lot! Спасибо!
You are an excellent instructor! How simple! Just moving the tongue back to create the correct sound for ы.
Thank you!
Make sure to practice a bit for you to be able to use it too!
I am using Rosetta Stone. I try to get in at least an hour per day. Your videos help me to understand when and why letters are replaced. I think that is one drawback the software has.
Dude! I love your energy and explanation; спасибо!
You are the best one who explained it
to me it looks like ы is kind of like saying "ew" while the lips are at "ee" position.
Very simple explanation! Thank you!
thanks for your videos! my parents come from russia but I was born and raised in Germany. I'm 22 years old and only now starting to learn Russian properly. your videos help me immensely :)
I'm studying Russian and I found the letter Ы very easy to pronounce, as I'm Brazilian, this sound already exists in Portuguese, as in the word "tia", pronounced in Russian as "тыя".
Mas não é o mesmo som. Ы não existe em português. Ninguém diz тыя, é тия. Ou talvez dependa de onde você mora?
Thanks, great video. Love how simple you made it. And said it is okay to use both.
Finnaly i can speak that haha you explain very well.
The one that are hard to me say, 'cause the rest are very similiar with my native language (Brazilian Portuguese)
Thank you so much! I was tying ro find a channel like yours... this lesson was what I've been looking for all these months now ы wont be a problem. 👍🙌
My Russian professor would stick a pencil in my mouth (horizontally so it acted like a horses bit) and make me bite down when trying to say Ы if I mispronounced the sound and it truly helped. I can say both sounds correctly. It makes keeping your tongue in the back of your mouth VERY easy
I love the way you explain it, I got it now!
Отличное объяснение. Спасибо!
Being fluent in French really helps with this one
Right
How bout some indonesian?
Sounds И and Ы are like, it's true. However, there are words that can cause confusion. For example, мишка (name or little bear) and мышка (little mouse).
мы должны были завести не слона а медведя. делать из мыши медведя, а не из мухи слона :>
Bless you - I believe I got somewhat closer to the right pronounciation. Simple and to the point. Thank you! (:
After many videos, it's the first time I get it. Thanks!
Muy buen tip, большое спасибо
Manuel Villanueva we have the same name but in a different language! lets be friends!
I just realized that russian from the speech is super similar to Polish
Omg, thank you so much for the tongue tip, I can say ы properly now!!! :D
И sound is like the sound ee in Feet
Ы sound is like the sound i in Sir
this is just my opinion... correct me if i'm wrong
That was actually pretty helpful, thanks! Спасибо из Бразилии
Why does ы sound like 2 vowels in some words?
For example, in мы, it always sounds like mui to me, but when ы is in the middle (or end) of longer words, its like the sound you make when you just pronounce the letter itself.
Спасибо , I'm so proud I wrote in manually this time thank you
as a swede this is much easier as we don't say the letter "y" as "why", we say it as Ы
Спасибо! 😃 Helped me a lot! 👍
For ы, what should the vertical position of the front and middle of tongue be as it’s pulled back?
Thank you so much for this video in particular!!!
you the man. thanks. this is difficult
Most non Slavics don’t know that ъi is comprised of ъ i. ъ=u like in uncle/sun and i=и like E in he. It’s more of a diphthong than a actual letter. So, start by saying u like in ummmm and transition to i (E) like he. Practice until you have it fast enough to, and there you go, ъi=ы
Ы is monophthong. But yeah it's half way between see and cool but it's not rounded.
Just say oo but unround your lips.
Omg, TYSM!!!! you are my hero! :D
Thank you, I have been trying to do this sound for 4 yrs.
Ken Willis I got in two days
@@ceotrix2302 30 seconds...
So Can we say that и is the same as the letter I in english?? Please I want to know
Прекрасный совет! Столкнулась с тем, что будущего родственника надо учить русскому языку. И собираю информацию, как это сделать эффективнее.
I would say, you don't need to practice letter Ы by itself, it's better to concentrate on
combinations of letters like пы, ты, сы ры etc. Just because we don't have any words starting with ы.
Very helpful, thanks! :)
hey fidor this is super helpful. the hardest one for me is still to make this from after "T" sound like in ты but I will keep practice!
I have had problems saying that letter for YEARS.
So basically bl sounds like a muted German 'ü'?
Иногда употребляя строго букву И можно совсем поменять значение слова. За место Мыло сказать Мило. Где Мило? Это Мило?
It's like saying 'yee' without the 'y'. E and ee.
I know I'm some four and a half years late to seeing and commenting on this video. And you did a great job of explaining and demonstrating how to pronounce the "bl" sound. I'm just a beginner, mind you, but it seems to me that, in differentiating between the two sounds, the bl is very much like the "i" in the English word "is". Isn't it? Did I not just produce the sound in those three consecutive words? I'm not saying it's exactly right, but am I really close to what it sounds like?
0:04
The thing I stuggle with is when and why.
Just imagine someone punches your hard in the stomach while saying “ughyiiii"
Ы:
Tounge: "U"
Lips: "i"
Бопьшое спасибо!
I will say this was a bit weird, but man it was helpful.
This is a godsend thank you
are there consequentes if you write an A instead of an O?
are there many words that if i write them like i say that there wil stand something els?
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if you write "a" instead "o" it's will be looks like you write as illiterate human :)
I usually say it really fast as sounding like the mix of the letter (no russian keyboard) oo (y) and the letter i (backwards N). *ooee* does that work?
Don't let my Russian name confuse you, (kms) Ya iz Ameriki. I think... probably not.
Very helpful!
Muchas Gracias , me has ayudado con esto 👌
Had to go back to the basics! Thanks for being such a great teacher! The examples you gave really helped ! xx
Thank you so much!
1:10 and here I call the demons and spirits
I wana know with an amarican acsent souns like to russian people when speaking Russian.
спасибо большой !
i heared what this sound "ы" have historcial origin from long "u","oo" :>
True
For some reason, I find it relatively easy to pronounce Мы, вы, and ды, but ты and цы are more difficult to pronounce.
А почему некоторые говорят, что у них типа вообще нет этого звука. Хотя частично же они произносят, допустим sit, bit. Да не так твердо и жестко, но звук же есть.
Thank you. Спасибо
I have download 97 videos :) thanks a bunch
does anybody know a good resource for Russian from German?
It sounds closest to schwa sound to me, why is it compared to i and the vowel in “is” and written as y?
Sorry, but I don't understand your question, can you clarify a bit what you're asking?
Nevermind I guess I understand the first part. Although I still wonder how it ended up being written as “y”
I like💕 the prononciation of the sound / Ы / in Russian words even though it wasn't easy for me to spell them like a native, but I'm trying to 👈
I'm brazilian and i'm trying to learn your language. Portuguese doesn't have this sound. I'm always struggling with it.
actually european portugues has this sound. de - ды, felicidade - фелисидады etc.
Trick: Put a pen in between your teeth and say the word „igloo“
That did the trick for me
i dont get it, when i say ты, i say it with an e, like tea, but with вы, it pronounces same as you say int his video? what about ты?
Ты is said just like вы but with a different first letter.
Perché hai messo dei sottotitoli in italiano?
Мне кажется что в звуке Ы не дело в языке, а в верхнем нёбе
Привет Фёдор!
Thanks for your great videos. They are helpful.
May be и is related to "i"
and ы is related to ъ"i".
и ы у seemed related, tongue-wise.
For example, ти ты ту, ти ту ты ...
It will be helpful if you could produce a video on "How to figure out unstressed o and stressed o in Russian Language" as they are distinctive different, sound-wise. I have yet to see a video on this. May be it is too challenging a task. May be there is hardly a logic to it.
My initial findings are:
1. majority of adverbs with "o" as last letter is pronounced as unstressed o such as важно.
Exception are смешнO, хорошO ...
2. many "o" after "п" appeared unstressed such as поэт, по-русски, пойди, поезжай
Exception are пOсле, пOчта, пOмните, ...
3. many "o" after "р" appeared stressed such as хорOшая книга, в некоторOм царстве, ...
Exception are гOрод, ...
4. some "o" after "д" appeared stressed such as дOброе утро, дOбрый день, ...
Exception are добрO пожаловать, домOй ...
5. some "o" after "к" appeared stressed such as молокO, шкOла
Exception are комOд, ...
6. some "o" after "ск" appeared stressed such as скOлько ...
7. some "o" after "кр" appeared stressed such as открOйте ...
...
I may be wrong, your expertise is required ! Thanks
3. в нЕкотором царстве
You are so cute ! Falling in love 🥰
проще всего объяснить, что в английском слове WE тот же звук Ы. То есть проще сказать букву Ы после буквы У
Я бы не сказал что этот один и тот же звук.
@@handsdown3521 i hear what this sound "ы" have historcial origin from long "u" :>