Is Mudclaw GOOD now? (Warrior Cats)
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- Опубликовано: 4 июн 2021
- The new Warrior Cats graphic novel, Winds of Change, just released last Tuesday, and it's all about Mudclaw!
Video art is from the graphic novel, illustrated by James L. Barry: / jameslbarry
Extra video art (Clear Sky/Breezepelt/Ashfur/Squirrelflight) is by Miss Dako: / miss_dakoart Развлечения
Mudclaw has always just resembled a normal aggressive clan cat to me. He's not evil, he's traditional.
💖🤍**T r a d i t i o n a l** ✨🌌
True
That’s how I see him to
Mud claws my fav warrior I have the book of it
Pretty much
I never thought Mudclaw was really evil, I felt kinda bad for him
Same.
same here
Same, bro
Woah!! I just came back and saw 100 likes 😅😅
Yea
I’m just glad we got to see some of WindClan in graphic novel form honestly
Fr
FR!
Ya and a river clan main character
True, WindClan is my favourite clan.
IKR-
Tallstar: ~makes Onewhisker deputy, hoping nothing bad would happen~
Onestar: ~Doesn't want to be seen as weak so becomes a jerk, refuses help when his clan needed it, hypocrite because of his grudge of ThunderClan, tries to drive said clan out in Eclipse for no reason, attempts a plan that would get ThunderClan attacked by stoats that were bothering his clan in Crowfeather's Trial, plan backfires as his clan gets more injured and he hesitates to ask for help even when his medicine cat said they needed it because they're running out of supplies as too many are injured.~
Bluestar and Mudclaw: Bet you feel stupid now...
He also impregnated a rando cat and lied about his identity.
Mudclaw would’ve been the indefinite better choice.
@@theemeraldfox2036 perhaps
Honestly, I think Mudclaw could have been a good leader. He may have mellowed out as he got older, but maybe not. Idk
Onestar also refused to give lungwort to ShadowClan when they needed it even though it's part of the code to help kits no matter what their alliegence is and I think kits from said Clan got yellowcough
**SPOILERS FOR UP TO BOOK 3 IN AVOS**
Also forgetting how he not only didn't drive off or kill Darktail when he clearly had the upperhand in the fight and then withdrew his clan from fighting off rogues that took over shadow clan because he fell for Darktail's taunt. Which resulted in the fight being lost, river clan getting taken over, tons of cats dying, and even completely shutting his clan in including keeping his medicine cat from half-moon meetings and not going to gatherings. Also he's at least a bit responsible for skyclan getting driven out of their home. At least he confessed and did the right thing after but only because Darktail forced him to tell the truth.
I never thought Mudclaw was evil. Brokenstar and Tigerstar 1 were evil, but not Mudclaw. He just made the wrong choices for the right reasons.
I’d agree. He wasn’t the best cat, but he isn’t outright evil. He’s definitely better than cats like Tigerstar 1 and Brokenstar, like you said.
Honestly,MudClaw was wronged, he serverd his time as deputy and OneWhisker gets made leader, come on now.
Exactly
Justice for mud claw!
Onewhisker wasn't even a good leader anyways smh
@@cinders5554 exactly!!!
Honestly, I never considered Mudclaw to be actually evil, but I would've really liked it if he was evil and possibly became the leader.
Heck yes
Yea
Yah
Totally
Blackstar’s novella actually has Blackstar become appalled by his own actions and he arguably got better
I wonder. Is Tigerstar the most evil cat?
No
Mapleshade is 😊
Yes, the original tigerstar is the the most evil cat... nothing comes close, maybe brokenstar
@@azelicoa Mapleshade didn't make the Dark Forest 💀
I'd say it goes tigerstar, brokenstar, mapleshade as the top 3, then you can throw in someone like darktail or thistleclaw. Ashfur doesn't belong as he's not a truly evil cat, he's way too complex to just say he's bad.
I never really saw Mudclaw as evil. Having another Clan say that your dead leader happened to choose his friend as deputy right before he died sounds like absolute bs and if I was in his shoes I wouldn't believe it at all.
Mudclaw seems to have the wrong intentions for the right reasons. I can see where he's coming from, thunderclan has always thought they own everyone, but it definitely isn't a good enough reason to join an evil cat. but he got a happy ending, thats my opinion.
thats literally what everyone is saying. its not ur theory, ur just restating what akira said lmao
@@Leav3ye erm, thats my opinion, sorry. But you don't hafta be rude about it though. If you don't have anything nice to say please dont say anything if thats alright with you?
@@Leav3ye soooo agreeing with someone else’s opinion is not allowed anymore?
I honestly think MudClaw would have been a good leader, when TallStar is ill he shows pride in being the leader for that time, One Whisker did not have as much experience as MudClaw, One Whisker was also completely unprepared to take on the responsibility of leading a clan, while MudClaw already knew what to do and how to do it, no matter if he seems aggressive to the other clans. If they are going to survive in a new territory, they should look after there own clan, because In a bit the clans will be separated. I would honestly love to see a fanmade comic or book showing what life in WindClan would be like if MudClaw was the leader.
The Only thing that was correct Was Hawkfrost Being Hawkfrost
Can I make this a quote?
@@Koopa_Shoopa go ham
I think that mudclaws intensions are good but he just doesn’t act well
Ur right
Just lite DarkStalker from WoF
@@Luci-Box hello angry boomer girl
@@suchomimustenerensis bruh, I'm a minor
@@Luci-Box I know
In terms of redemption arcs, imo Blackstar's got one of the best in the books. He actually works his entire life to atone for his atrocities and prevent repeats where he can, he doesn't just suddenly go "oh I'm good now" or die in a big flashy way and show up in StarClan because reasons. Blackstar has more ground to stand on with the evil thing than Mudclaw, imo. Mudclaw was never an outright _villain,_ just an antagonist. He didn't do a genocide or try to take over the Lake or whatever.
Also, him becoming leader: I’d argue that he seemed to be the only one capable at the time
I’ve always felt bad for MudClaw, I always kinda thought he had a valid reason to do what he did. That doesn’t excuse his actions, I just know he really thought he was gonna be leader. I think TallStar shouldn’t have made OneWhisker deputy in the way that he did.
I couldn’t agree more.
I dont think that Mudclaw was necessarily bad in the first place. Of course, anybody would be angry at the fact that you have been waiting patiently to be leader, and Tallstar made Onewhisker deputy right before he dies. I dont think he has a bad heart or bad intentions, I just feel that he acted out.
I never thought Mudclaw was evil. Personality, I see him as what Tigerstar could have been if he wasn't evil; ambitious, a bit paranoid, and temperamental, but also someone who loves their Clan and would do whatever they believed was best to keep their Clan and Clanmates safe. Mudclaw's reaction to the change in deputy at the last second is justified to an extent: only three cats were there when Tallstar made Onewhisker his deputy, two of which were ThunderClan cats. And Onewhisker at that point was well known to be buddies with Firestar. I would be suspicious that they were making it up as well. He had a valid reason to believe that this was just a plot by Firestar to get Onewhisker into power so he'd have more control over WindClan. And after the whole Tigerstar fiasco, I can't blame him for being a bit paranoid about another Clan leader trying to take over all the other Clans. He had every right to challange the validity of Onewhisker's right to succession.
Mudclaw is so underrated, there's not even any AMVs dedicated to him which is kind of sad.
There's a song from the starkid musical "Twisted" that always makes me think of Mudclaw.
I never read his novella but maybe I could make a pmv or based off of him :3
Honestly who wouldn’t be suspicious if you’ve waited so long to be leader and this guy and his friend say he’s leader now
As insufferable as I found Onewhisker to be in later books, I still think it made sense for his character to go that way. Given that he always had to fight for his clan's respect, it makes sense that he would become hostile toward Firestar
The ironic thing is that onestar literally became exactly like that☠️
After rereading the new prophecy Firestar is really up the butt of every clan and nosing about in everyone's business far more than is necessary. Tallstar is the biggest A hole here and nearly destroyed his clan. Mudclaw was no more bad for his clan than any other leader. It was new territory, and although some communication and teamwork would clearly be needed, Windclan needed to focus on itself and rebuilding its clan and reputation. For this Mudclaw might have been the better leader. In this series, the longer it goes on the more I feel like the writers boop the mind of any background cat to suit their needs, ignoring their personalities and rewriting them to suit their needs. Mudclaw was just one of the first cats to suffer from this.
Mudclaw was never evil just ambitious, he really should have won the windclan civil war, because anyone would have been a better leader than that [redacted] Onestar.
Honestly, Mudclaw's motivations/intentions were fine, but he just didn't execute them well. But i still think he would have been a better leader then Onestar. (But Onestar is my least favorite cat so maybe im just saying that cuz i hate Onestar lol)
Edit: Im glad people agree with me lol
Mudstar for the win
Pffft- Onestar is a piece of- fox dung.
The problem with onestar is ends up becoming just like mudclaw if not worse because mudclaw atleast had experience in leadership because he became deputy unlike onestar...
My opinion: basically the same, but I think that star clan could have been like: You can be leader, but do peace. BOOM! Problems solved.
Here's MY opinion on this.
I never thought MudClaw was evil.. just kinda ripped off. TallStar made a horrible decision, and honestly, i would of been on the side of MudClaw when 2 cats outside my clan and only one other of my clan claimed that the one cat in my clan was true leader, it would sound a lot more like trickory! Its tradition, after all. The deputy becomes the leader, not the cat the leader decides at the last moment and in secret.
And when it comes to leadership, I think Mudclaw would be a better leader! Sure, he's a bit destructive, but once you analyze the motives, you'll see it like this.
The reason why Wind'Clan started becoming hostile toward Thunder'Clan, DESPITE every single time that thunder clan, and especially FireStar, saved Windclan, OneStar thinks its a better idea to distance himself, and even be on the verge to attack ThunderClan becouse he was once friends with FireStar. OneStar got caught up in his own selfish want for loyalty, that he caused the wounds on his clan, and the hopeless wars. When you look at it all, most terrible things happen BECAUSE of Onestar's want to feel loyal to his clan. MudClaw has no such motivation.
MudClaw wants what's right for his clan, even distance WindClan from the other clans. He wants what's best for WindClan and WindClan only. He might be stubborn, but not stupid. When the time comes, He'll understand that when WIndClan needs the help of another clan, he'll get it.
ThunderClan teamed up with WindClan, Brought them home after ShadowClan drove them out, Firestar himself saved WindClan from ThunderClan attacking them during Bluestar's days of declining mental health. MudClaw was around during all of this, and if im correct, was deputy through all of this. He of all cats would likely come to understand that when his clan needs help, it's going to come.
Another side to this is that MudClaw is too selfish to do that. It would take to the brink of their lives to accept help, which in all honesty, already happens with Onestar.
In my full opinion, MudClaw was the best option to be leader in the first place, due to his lack of motive to be unreasonably aggressive toward ThunderClan, his sheer will and determination to lead the clan into its best times as best he can, and Onestar's stinky poo poo-ness.
( Feel free to start a constructive conversation about this arguement in the replies, lets not be mean here :3 )
I'm starting to feel like Akira doesn't like Blackstar-
I haven't read warriors since November but usually when I pick up a Warriors book it all comes back lol
Tallstar wanted a leader who was more like him to lead WindClan. So he picked Onewhisker. However, to be leader, Onewhisker became more like Mudclaw but distancing himself from Thunderclan. So to what end? It was a badly handled situation.
A agree with most of these points in this video. You’re right, Mudclaw did have a right to be upset about the situation. It was terribly unfair of Tallstar to change the deputy of WindClan last-minute, and only tell Onewhisker. However, that does not justify Mudclaw’s actions. He had good intentions, to protect his Clan and his Clanmates, but ultimately, he was wrong and ended up hurting his Clanmates and causing conflict rather than helping them. Also, Onestar became a complete brat in Power of Three and A Vision of Shadows. I think they both would’ve ended up as bad leaders, either way. When someone asks me, “Who should’ve been WindClan’s leader? Mudclaw or Onewhisker?” I always say, neither. They both ended up bad. They aren’t horrible cats, but they weren’t the best, either. I’d consider them both morally gray.
Aw come on! Another warrior cats book? There goes my allowance again!
@Cøsmic Flamezs lol
LMAOOOO
Everybody be like: MUD CLAW IN STARCLAN???? BUT HE'S EVIL!!!
Mud claw be like: You would've done the same thing don't even lie to me
This was great! I haven't read the book yet but I'll try to get it soon! Keep on making these fabulous videos!
They just made cannon what I had known all along. Mudclaw is really only the "bad guy" of Firestar's crew/circle and Onewhisker. It's too bad that Warriors doesn't make a habit of making disliked characters be the very best friend of another important character. The Snape character in a way. I know it's hard to do, but considering how many characters we have at this point, the series almost needs this. Crowfeather doesn't count. I love that they remembered the neutral character Tornear!
It would also give the modern characters some real flavor. Shadowsight and Rootspring are such a clone of Alderheart, and I just wish that everyone had a bit more personality than an old shoe. Even Twigbranch and Violetshine.
Thing is, Tallstar can claim to know what is best and all, but this is really all his fault. He should have known that Mudclaw was not going to take this well. HE'S HIS DEPUTY! Maybe if Tallstar had deposed him before dying, he may not have acted the way he had. And considering that Tallstar would ABSOLUTELY HAVE KNOWN the kittypet babies Onewhisker had left behind ((RECENTLY at this point too, I might add)), it makes Tallstar's decision even worse that it already was!! Not to mention Onestar's 360 personality change. Mudclaw had to die, to form a bridge. That's it.
I know, it's so annoying that Mudclaw was pretty much vilified for being (justifiably) angry at Firestar. If this happened in any other circumstance, the coup would be a noble attempt to save the Clan...
I know the coop was part of the "Hawkfrost is evil" showcase but I wish instead of changing deputies maybe Tallstar asked Mudclaw to make Onewhisker deputy after his death or something, then maybe being Mudclaw's deputy alongside wanting to distance himself from Thunderclan to prove himself molded him to be a donkey later on, idk..
The book is released? I truely think mudclaw was trying to do the best for his clan I would have been super mad to if I was a deputy and got it taken away in a heartbeat
Great video! :D Love your intro, by the way!😊♥
I loved Winds of Change, I use a virtual library so I’ve waited at least a year for my book hold, I got the hold in a week or two ago and absolutely freaked out over Discord with a bunch of ppl who don’t even read Warrior Cats lol, then read it in literally 2 days(because I usually read at night), but anyways on to the actual book, I absolutely LOVE Winds of Change, I love the graphic novels, they show the behind the scenes of the normal Warrior Cats timeline/world, and I don’t think Mudclaw is evil, although I’m not sure that Tallstar telling him would help, because Mudfur still wouldn’t be leader/deputy would he? He might now think Firestar isn’t evil, but he’d still probably be mad at Tallstar or Onewhisker(star).
Almost at 100k congrats!!!!
I love the lyrics from Next to Fall in the background it fits the topic👍
Mudclaw was never evil he always wanted the best for Windclan
i have the book winds of change, i love when the dead mudclaw gave one whisker 1 of his 9 lives
6:03 *blackstar smirking*
I loved this graphic novel, we need more Windclan!! I think it explains Onestar’s actions, his clan was torn apart and other cats in other clans don’t trust him, therefore he had to make it clear he doesn’t like Thunderclan. Also Blackstar has an amazing redemption arc in his novella. (Also I’m lowkey obsessed with Webfoot’s design in the book, idk why it’s just really distinguished haha)
I wish Mudclaw was leader of windclan ngl
Deadfoot.
since we got this pov, why not have a novella in Rainflower or Appledusk's pov so we can read about what they thought of the one they rejected. After re-watching Akira's Rainflower video, I really want to read about how she felt.
One thing I like about Winds Of Change is how the book gives cats that are normally in the background some spotlight. They actually make notice to Tornear and Mudclaw being littermates, and used that in the book, building their relationship, and building up some of Tornear's character too, as a brother rather than your every day Windclan cat. Webfoot was also given some character here too, showing that he was very quick to side with Mudclaw, and was pretty good friends with Mudclaw before he died.
I have a feeling Mudclaw knew about Onestar relationship with Smoke and Darktail-
Finally some Starclan cats interacting
I like the civil war idea and like how ironic Tallstar’s choice was.
I also like stories that involves the protagonist making huge mistakes and learning from them.
Let's be real, it's also ironic for Muddy here to be "I don't trust the clans" yet believes and fell for Hawkfrost's manipulation. He knows how Mudclaw feels and took advantage of it.
I am going to read this book for sure
Blackstar may have done bad stuff in the past but he devoted he life to get rid of shadowclan’s cruel and evil past
Mud claw reminds me Darkstalker
That makes sense. They both had good intentions, but ended up taking them the wrong way and causing more harm than good.
I do feel like though Onestar wasn't a great leader, he was better than Mudclaw could have been. I mean, imagine Mudclaw allying with the other Clans in The Dark Forest Battle like he needed to, or saving ThunderClan from the badger attack, just like he really needed to so ThunderClan could survive. And eventually, Onestar did ally with the other Cans against Darktail. But I feel Mudclaw wouldn't have done that. There also probably could have been plenty more battles with ThunderClan, and RiverClan, the other neighboring Clan, if Mudclaw had become leader. While Onestar didn't turn out to be that good of a leader, I still think he's better than Mudclaw would have been.
Mudclaw seems like he would've stayed out of other Clans' businesses, doing the opposite of that. He seemed that he wanted to somewhat isolate WindClan and defend it well, he really just wanted to keep it safe. If Darktail and the Dark Forest were posing as a threat to WindClan, I think he would've risen up against them.
Example of turning any cat good: Tigerstar. If he hadn’t been trained by thistleclaw
0:13 Ohhh...
So that explains why he was called Mudclaw...
Lol
Figures he is shown with mud in his claws
Mudclaw to me was never evil, he had a right to be angry about not becoming the leader. He was deputy for moons, served his clan well and was a very good warrior. When tallstar basically spat in his face by appointing onewhisker (who ended up sucking HARD and causing many more problems then solving) he was rightfully angry and wanted his place to be recognized and respected. As others have said, I guess he was more a "traditional" kind of cat. I do wonder how it would be different from the way things played in cannon, I imagine he'd be an "ok" leader.
5:45 he payed the price for his TREE-son
He’s underrated. He knew it was wrong but for the better of the clan, mighty respect for him 😌
Honestly imagine if we knew nothing about Tallstar's decision. Mudclaw was ready to become leader and then when Tallstar died someone who has been sympathetic to another clan comes out with the leader of said clan claiming that Tallstar died and named him deputy at the last possible minute. Mudclaw led his clan to the new territories only to be replaced by a softer cat. Mudclaw gave it some time but with Onewisker being ineffective and friendly to another clan after many moons of being manipulated and abused by other clans you grow suspicious. Mudclaw always had Windclan's best intentions in mind and this "usurper" is a threat to his clan's long term safety
When I looked at thumbnail I was like:Did mud claw poop himself?
SPOILERS FOR THIS MANGA BELOW!*
I just read this comic and I can confirm Mudclaw is just a misunderstood bby. He really only just wants best for Windclan. He even gave Tallstar a live to prove he was sorry and only had best intentions. He is literally one of my favorite characters now, I am so glad he got developed more in this manga. He, like, has Tigerstar’s sort of ambition minus the careless violence and pure evil. He only attacked Onewhisker cuz of Hawkfrost over and over convincing him to, which isn’t really a surprise haha. Mudclaw is a misunderstood bby and I love him so much 💕🥺❤️
I agree with everything :3
Sorry for correcting but shouldn't it be "He gave _Onewhisker_ a life"
I like the picture of Mudclaw on the cover for some reason. Maybe it’s because his belly reminds me of my own cat’s adorable flub lol
I've honestly never thought of Mudclaw to be evil-
Anybody would have been angry to be promised power, and then minutes before you gain that power, it's stripped from you.
Makes sense
I got the book last week: I loved it
Mud claw in the second prophecy was considered ‘bad’ but in most of the other arks, he’s pretty good
Mudclaw was never a villain. He had a legitimate claim to the WindClan leadership.
I actually read liked the novel! I liked that they showed him feeling sorry for his actions, apologizing, and asking to be forgiven
I love all these morally gray characters 😱
I've always wonderd about mudclaw
This is not related to this video, but I've been really wanting to vent about it.
(I also know that you talk about stuff like this, and maybe you could talk about it in your channel :D)
The Warrior's serires seems to take almost every main character she cat and turn them into a bland background character by giving them a mate. Maybe besides Squirrel flight and leafpool. If you don't believe me lets look at a few examples. Sandstorm, after mating firestar her only personality was loving Firestar a lot! This went on a bunch, and now they've done it to Bristlefrost and I'm pretty mad.
I think Mudclaw has one of the better redemption arcs. And Windclan representation is awwesome
Oh my mom sent me a picture of that book and I thought it was Onestar. I guess Mudclaw makes more sense.
As of right now Mudclaw’s manga is defo my fav, don’t get me wrong, I think Feathertail’s is amazing too, but I just prefer the drama and Mudclaw as a morally gray character, it’s just executed so well and Mudclaw is now definitely one of my favourite characters
I have a book like that
i really want to read the warrior cats book but i dont know which one? can you tell me which is original?
Prophecies begin, into the wild
@Nightyz 00 tysm
Not a single mention of how Hawkfrost helped manipulate Mudclaw? He’s the reason why Mudclaw started to really suspect that Firestar was controlling Windclan with a shadow leader.
I understand his perspective of putting the clan first but the old paranoia got to him. I also believe he would of still been a better choice than Onestar. Mostly as everyone saw Onewhisker as Firestars best friend so Onestar had to overcompensate his action to contradict anything ThunderClan did to not look like he was favoring him to the point where it hurt the clan. I feel as Mudclaw might of defrosted a bit once clan borders and a normal routine would of been established and wouldn't of taken such drastic measures just to Prove to everyone that they weren't ThunderClan's Lackies.
Not to mention all the manipulation from Hawkfrost in such uncertain times where the position he worked hard for for many moons got torn out from under him. Not to mention the lack of respect Onewhisker had before his Naming made WindClan look weak as he was so ill prepared to take on a role, unlike when Mudclaw had stepped up in the very beginning. Honestly it does kinda point out that Onestar modeled himself after Mudclaw.
I sorta made an Evil!Mudclaw headcanon** to explain why Onestar was such a brat but I never hated him in the books.
**When Onewhisker got his lives or sometime before, Onewhisker asked Mudclaw for help. Mudclaw then possessed him and is the true Onestar the clans came to know. I just hated that Onewhisker became so cruel. It didn't really make sense to me how he changed. Also the whole Smoke thing felt out of place as well. He never seemed like a bragging cat, I guess.
Welp this is good advice I am very paranoid
Hi I’m a big fan
Mudclaw is my favourite cat
just yesterday i got the novel 😶👍
All warrior cats I know
Firestar
Sandstorm
Bluestar
Mudclaw
Tallstar
Yellowfang
Cinderpelt
Cloudpaw
Scourge
Brick
Bone
Crookedstar
Graystripe
Brambleclaw
Squirrelflight
Hollyleaf
Lionblaze
Jayfeather
Onewhisker
Onestar
Goldenflower
Tigerstar
Silverstream
Mistyfoot
Stonefur
Ashfur
Mousefur
Lionheart
Whitestorm
Tawnypelt
Spottedleaf
Sol
Princess
Smudge
Henry
Leafpool
Mapleshade
Appledusk
Rowanstar
Redtail
Ravenpaw
Darkstripe
Longtail
Dustpelt
Frostfur
Brackenfur
Leapordstar
Mudfur
Runningwind
Runningnose
Ashfoot
Blackfoot
Littlecloud
Brightheart (Lostface)
Smallear
One-eye
Halftail
good talk
Lol I literally just read the whole book and this popped up.
Imagine how pissed Mudclaw must've been when Onestar picked Hareflight to be leader.
Can we all agree that saying "If Squirrelflight got together officially with Ashfur, he wouldn't have committed the crimes" is just blatant victim-blaming? The fact that he was willing to try to destroy someone's life for not getting what he wants and how he was capable of doing such acts are a problem to begin with
this is why windclan is the best clan. we have the most anti-heros >:)
She did a very good job explaining it. Mudclaw is not evil, he just seems like a good clan cat that wants his clan to grow and survive. Although, he let's his emotions get the better of him which is very relatable.
never been this early
All of this is just because people were theorising that Ashfur and Mudclaw were working together and the authors were like “oop- no, we need a Mudclaw redemption arc”
But seriously, I feel like if he didn't change deputy we all would be like "oo, why he didn't do that?? He had a whole vision that Mudclaw will turn Windclan into battle!"
He is the only cat who literaly had a vision and was like "alright, time to act" right away to me. I'm not saying it's a good thing, but he did that
Mudclaw is a good and honorable cat who made a mistake for understabale reason. Onewhisper was always seen as weak and i can see why he saw him as bad leader. We could argue he vared deeply about his clan and thus disliked Tallstars desicions.
Look i say this very often but mudclaw would have made a great leader for WindClan. Seeing how onestar turned out a mud star leadership would have been just fine for everyone
I never saw Mudclaw as a villian or evil. His horrid plot to overthrow One star was kinda justified. Looking at it from his perspective I can see how it looks like bs and how he legit thought he should be rightful leader. After all Tallstar did him super dirty by not even discussing with him or anything. Onestar became one of the worst leaders in the series and I truly wonder how Windclan would have been with Mudclaw as leader. Mudclaw was never a good cat and I believe he would have been the type of leader Tallstar imagined but that might have been better then what Onestar was.
also, are we forgetting that hawk frost influenced his mistakes greatly?
I mean power of three onestar was just plot convenience, they were just using him as a hollow shell
Why does Blackstar look a bit like that salad meme cat
I allways had a soft spot for mud claw, even in the first series. I totally could see why he was allways upset.
I'm only 2 minutes late
It's not too bad-