Hello, I have heard of your work and i am glad I came upon your channel. I have been a photographer over 50 years, and now that am retired i would like to delve into more of a creative approach to fine art photography.
I approach most situations when Im taking a photograph like a game winning snooker shot. There are several shots that will easily pot the ball but its the difficult shot that wins the game. That shot has to be right, you walk around it, look at it from different angles and directions, consider the outcome.... then carefully you pot the ball, or click the shutter... and even at that very moment the outcome may not be quite right.
Thanks for posting! As a request, I wonder if the audio track for the interview could be turned up a bit. It's hard to hear you or your guest sometimes..!
I wish I lived in a state where there was mountains and beautiful scenery near by. But instead I live in Florida, and there's only so many times I can shoot the beach before I lose interest. I need to take a road trip. Beautiful photos by the way!
I agree, Florida can be tough. Yes, Clyde Butchers work should be an inspiration. I also enjoy taking images of the weather in Florida. Those sunset clouds, and thunderstorms can be like mountains. There are some who kayak the small rivers and creeks for excellent images.
fine art photography = manipulate manipulate manipulate tonal ranges post processing. Perhaps you could put out a book on form within the frame, this I think would really help photographers greatly because many of us see a scene, know there is a photo there somewhere, but don't really know how to arrange the photo within the frame (well, at least beyond general 'rules' like rules of 1/3, golden section etc)- Understanding HOW to arrange a scene is perhaps the most important aspect of getting a great photo (The light, tones etc can all be nice. but if the composition is off, there just 'seems to be something not quite right' with the photo that we can't seem to put our finger on because we don't know what a 'proper' arrangement should look like . Would be nice if there was a book, or recommendation for a book aleady available, that teaches this?
Nazareth434 you're right it's a good idea. But I feel it really comes down to you shooting, and training your eye, based on your feedback-- how the images look to you and others when you show it to them and your own sense of -- "did is tell what I was trying to say?" How many hours a week do you go out and shoot?
Advancing Your Photography 3-4 hours a day- (most of that is either driving or hiking, looking for shots) and probably 3-4 hours post process at night- but I am like someone who knows nothing about electricity trying to wire a whole house- 'just doing it' isn't going to make me do things 'correctly' where all of a sudden I just get it- the problem is, if I accidently get shots that look ok- I don';t understand what it is that makes them look ok- it would be much more helpful to me to learn things like (and I'm just making this up because I don't know if it's correct or not- probably not, but for illustration sake let's just assume) "The rock in the lower left corner is too close to edge, makes a person's eye drop to that point of tension too strongly" or "The angle of he shot should have been about a foot higher because the angle I shot it at flattens the view too much and makes what should be recognizable landmarks too obscure and unrecognizable because of the extreme angle" or perhaps something like "Had the shot been taken about a foot to the right, it would have separated the two main characters I n the scene better, giving each one their own importance instead of meshing the two together because of the angle"I dunno- just stuff like that I guess- there are things like I read about 'triangles In the corners' which should be avoided- although I'm not sure why, and 'watch for convergences' and 'look for strong subject to ground contrasts' - thigns that can be learned instead of trying to discover them ourselves and not really knowing what it is that helps or hurts the photo- and there's lots of 'do and don'ts' that can be taught to help really improve someone';s photography- it's just like trying to be a designer, you can go and learn, or you can spin your wheels for years and never really catch on because you aren't sure WHY something looks good or doesn't- I guess I gotta learn design and arrangement- like Feng Shui, there is a psychology behind good design, a balance that can calm, excite, motivate etc- but I need to learn the basics first I guess- I can't just keep spraying and praying so to speak- hoping for happy accidents-
Nazareth434 I'm tracking with you and feel your frustration. Here's what we can do -- in art school we went to class, then shot and had critiques and learned (hopefully) and went out and shot again. With AYP we're hoping to follow the same: 1. Watch videos in the genre of your photography-- and even not in your genre-- to hear advice from the pros. 2 look at photos and art in general that you like and inspires you, not to copy it but to see how it was done. 3. Go out and shoot and process your images. 4. post your best here www.silberstudios.tv/photo-share/ and we'll aim to get you the feedback you're looking for 5. continue this cycle. How's that sound?
Advancing Your Photography thanks, but I think what I really need is a design study- where I can learn stuff like "Avoid convergences,', 'avoid the 'ping pong' effect, 'watch for competing colors- look for one dominant, one subdued' etc- stuff like that
Thank you for the enlightening video Silber and Huntington! I'd love constructive criticism here fineartamerica.com/profiles/dylan-steller.html If you don't mind!
great to hear, thanks for tuning in!
@bsmanohar thanks for watching, stay tuned for some new vids
Those flowers, those clouds,
Glorious !!
Hello, I have heard of your work and i am glad I came upon your channel. I have been a photographer over 50 years, and now that am retired i would like to delve into more of a creative approach to fine art photography.
+Fred C Williams Thanks Fred, glad you found us and hope we can help you achieve your goals --MS
Thank you for your amazingly insightful interviews and for the wonderful interviewees!
I must agree, my best photos are ones where I just went out to photograph whatever, as opposed to something specific.
Could Witheril or Marc suggest some books on 2D design (mentioned in min 5:32) - tnx in advance.
I love the hi key stuff, great composition, great photography, thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed the video Mark! Look out for more videos soon!
I approach most situations when Im taking a photograph like a game winning snooker shot. There are several shots that will easily pot the ball but its the difficult shot that wins the game. That shot has to be right, you walk around it, look at it from different angles and directions, consider the outcome.... then carefully you pot the ball, or click the shutter... and even at that very moment the outcome may not be quite right.
yes we'er rolling them,out!
Beautiful photos. Looking forward to more
Thanks for posting! As a request, I wonder if the audio track for the interview could be turned up a bit. It's hard to hear you or your guest sometimes..!
Inspiring as always! thankyou marc
Inspiring and very informative!! I've seen some of your vids, but all of them have the volume bit low. You should pump up the volume a little.
Thanks
Bravo !!
I wish I lived in a state where there was mountains and beautiful scenery near by. But instead I live in Florida, and there's only so many times I can shoot the beach before I lose interest. I need to take a road trip. Beautiful photos by the way!
I hear you but check out Floridian Clyde Butcher's work.
I agree, Florida can be tough. Yes, Clyde Butchers work should be an inspiration. I also enjoy taking images of the weather in Florida. Those sunset clouds, and thunderstorms can be like mountains. There are some who kayak the small rivers and creeks for excellent images.
Your work is amazing!!
Thanks Susan, love to hear that! What did you gain from the video?
thanks!
fine art photography = manipulate manipulate manipulate tonal ranges post processing. Perhaps you could put out a book on form within the frame, this I think would really help photographers greatly because many of us see a scene, know there is a photo there somewhere, but don't really know how to arrange the photo within the frame (well, at least beyond general 'rules' like rules of 1/3, golden section etc)- Understanding HOW to arrange a scene is perhaps the most important aspect of getting a great photo (The light, tones etc can all be nice. but if the composition is off, there just 'seems to be something not quite right' with the photo that we can't seem to put our finger on because we don't know what a 'proper' arrangement should look like . Would be nice if there was a book, or recommendation for a book aleady available, that teaches this?
Nazareth434 you're right it's a good idea. But I feel it really comes down to you shooting, and training your eye, based on your feedback-- how the images look to you and others when you show it to them and your own sense of -- "did is tell what I was trying to say?"
How many hours a week do you go out and shoot?
Advancing Your Photography 3-4 hours a day- (most of that is either driving or hiking, looking for shots) and probably 3-4 hours post process at night- but I am like someone who knows nothing about electricity trying to wire a whole house- 'just doing it' isn't going to make me do things 'correctly' where all of a sudden I just get it- the problem is, if I accidently get shots that look ok- I don';t understand what it is that makes them look ok- it would be much more helpful to me to learn things like (and I'm just making this up because I don't know if it's correct or not- probably not, but for illustration sake let's just assume) "The rock in the lower left corner is too close to edge, makes a person's eye drop to that point of tension too strongly" or "The angle of he shot should have been about a foot higher because the angle I shot it at flattens the view too much and makes what should be recognizable landmarks too obscure and unrecognizable because of the extreme angle" or perhaps something like "Had the shot been taken about a foot to the right, it would have separated the two main characters I n the scene better, giving each one their own importance instead of meshing the two together because of the angle"I dunno- just stuff like that I guess- there are things like I read about 'triangles In the corners' which should be avoided- although I'm not sure why, and 'watch for convergences' and 'look for strong subject to ground contrasts' - thigns that can be learned instead of trying to discover them ourselves and not really knowing what it is that helps or hurts the photo- and there's lots of 'do and don'ts' that can be taught to help really improve someone';s photography- it's just like trying to be a designer, you can go and learn, or you can spin your wheels for years and never really catch on because you aren't sure WHY something looks good or doesn't- I guess I gotta learn design and arrangement- like Feng Shui, there is a psychology behind good design, a balance that can calm, excite, motivate etc- but I need to learn the basics first I guess- I can't just keep spraying and praying so to speak- hoping for happy accidents-
Nazareth434 I'm tracking with you and feel your frustration. Here's what we can do -- in art school we went to class, then shot and had critiques and learned (hopefully) and went out and shot again. With AYP we're hoping to follow the same: 1. Watch videos in the genre of your photography-- and even not in your genre-- to hear advice from the pros. 2 look at photos and art in general that you like and inspires you, not to copy it but to see how it was done. 3. Go out and shoot and process your images. 4. post your best here www.silberstudios.tv/photo-share/ and we'll aim to get you the feedback you're looking for 5. continue this cycle. How's that sound?
Advancing Your Photography thanks, but I think what I really need is a design study- where I can learn stuff like "Avoid convergences,', 'avoid the 'ping pong' effect, 'watch for competing colors- look for one dominant, one subdued' etc- stuff like that
Nazareth434 well ok, let us know how that goes and what you learn along the way.
Super all the way...
Hi! Have you ever tried photo sfxart tricks (do a search on google)? My mate Daniel made some incredible photos with their video tutorials.
Thank you for the enlightening video Silber and Huntington! I'd love constructive criticism here fineartamerica.com/profiles/dylan-steller.html If you don't mind!
Dylan Steller Hey Dylan glad you enjoyed. Please post your photos here www.silberstudios.tv/photo-share/