From all the 'classic wow class guides' I've seen pop up over the years, this is probably one of the best out there. Well written, straight to the point, great presentation with the graphs and points for pve and pvp and all the info is on point. You've definitely earned another sub, keep up the great work!
I have seen bunch of thumbnails about this stuff, but they were pretty underwhelming, to the point I was thinking about TL:DWing and commenting "just make a graphs instead of ranting for long. Huge props for production value! :)
I was planning to go for the class that has the most nostalgic feelings for me but then I realize that the only thing I did during vanilla was class-hopping..
Nena Cherise Hunters are the most nostalgic for me as they’ve been completely changed throughout the years and Vanilla and today hunters feel like a totally different classes.
I’m going undead warlock. Going to be grouped up with 2 of my cousins. One is going undead priest and the other is going tauren shaman. We’ll meet up around level 7 or so and then we are going to non stop play until we hit 30.
@plutoG You can definitely kill 5-10 mobs before running out of mana generally whether that's through AOE or a mix of single target and wanding. However from 40ish and onward I often had to drink twice to fill up my mana entirely, and even when getting a new rank of water it would still be 1-2k below my total mana pool
48 years old now. Gave up in WOTLK. So did my whole guild. Shit, there are 8 of us so far heading back to the same old server! Rouge back then, but feeling a healing druid this time around! Excited.
@@chrisk1458 As in we are going to play on the same one. The names have changed anyways. There were more servers. I think they will need to roll more out. But once the hype is over, things settle down, it may be enough. Time will tell. My guess is more will be added
"Pre-60 warrior life is rough to say the least" - no truer words have ever been spoken... man I remember how tough it was but it remains my favorite class to this day.
You know that feeling of pure excitement that you felt as a kid looking at christmas tree lights? That's how I'm feeling right now at 25 years old watching this video realizing that classic releases in one month.
Coming from a guy who played on retail vanilla, feenix and nost for many years. You provided a very informed overview of all of the classes. I particularly liked the spell ranks that would see most use. Even illuding to use of shot walking. Will definitely check out more of your content.
Warrior all the way, I don't care if it's a grind I will do it as a prot spec warrior. I am not worried about how long it will take, Classic is about the journey in my opinion.
@N0D3 Warrior leveling comprises of 3 things: The slowest 2H wpn u can find (typically a staff), fury's Blood Craze and Enrage talents (20 points in fury total) utilizing a /sit macro keybind which makes u take an automatic crit in combat, and stacking spirit gear to improve Blood Craze. Optionally bringing some food along helps as well. You really don't need a buddy to level as a warrior. In fact with the above setup, you level faster than rogues do on average.
Level as a dps spec. You'll be able to tank fine til endgame with just a onehander and a shield and your CDs. Proper pulls and CC in dungeons will make it easy. If you really want to level as prot go for it, but you'll level faster as a dps with a twohander, while still being able to slap on a shield and tank. :D Just want you to know you have this option if you really want to tank.
By the time I had my first level 60 character in Vanilla, I had played all the different classes. My first 60, however, was Druid. I leveled from 1-60 as feral, and it was a blast. I loved the class quests, and the day I hit 60 I did the MC attune solo by stealthing to the rock in blackrock. As much fun as I had leveling and healing with druid in Vanilla, I will probably go Priest when Classic releases, because it too was a blast and it was more sought after for dungeons and raids. Good video, thank you.
I know both classes are quite saught after but was it too hard to find raid teams and so as a druid? And how about priests? I really cant decie which one to play
@@DanielRodriguez-ru5uk - Priests and Paladins were the most sought after. Most raids would have one druid for healing and would not allow any other druid class to play. You would usually see one Shaman as well.
@@27Zangle You have either Shaman or Pally.. so sought after heals depended on faction. Often more than one Shaman is used in bigger raids.. I think you might be thinking of TBC or something.
@@fudgefudge8913 - I played both factions. two horde 60's and one alliance 60. This could also depend on server and guild. I know my guild(s) only had 1-2 Shamans for raids.
@@crenshawpete273 now do that 4 times and you have the warlock experience for every. fucking. pet. water totem quest was nothing compared to lock quests.
These views and recommendations are only opinions and are in no way perfect. There are many players more knowledgeable and more skilled than me and this is simply my interpretation based off my anecdotal experience playing on and off since 2006. I hope this guide can be helpful with the launch of Kronos 3 on the horizon and Classic WoW. Thanks for everything guys I really appreciate all the support.
Good video, but especially on Paladin, two major issues really need to be pointed out more: - Buffing having such a short duration means you are buffing more often than not. Check the duration, it's absolutely pathetic. - For serious raiding, you went Holy. The lack of a defense against fear and the lower mitigation meant that Protection was not useful unless you switched to another tank for over half(!) the bosses. You couldn't even help with all the taunt reliant bosses, such as the drakes or Four Horsemen. Retribution, meanwhile, was bad due to the threat being so high, and your damage being comparatively low. So if you want to raid and not heal, don't pick a Paladin. YOU WILL HOLD YOUR GROUP BACK IF YOU DO NOT PICK HOLY, unfortunately. In fact, if you use "buffs" as a strength, do notice that protection falls flat on its face because you cannot keep up threat AND buffs.
You need to be careful with the color pallet. The rogue and priest colors is very close to the unlit circles and made the it near impossible to distinguish in a laptop monitor! Always try to use colors with high contrast to improve legibility.
It'll be fun getting into wow after a 5 year hiatus. I even convinced my brother and dad to get back into it with me. We've already decided on a prot warrior, holy priest, and arcane mage group comp. Don't know how many dungeons or raids we'll run, but we can't wait to get back into bgs.
I loved playing my paladin back then. Yes, in raids you mainly buff and spam flash of light or holy light but it was still awesome. That moment you could pop divine favor (I think it was called like that) and give a critical heal without any mana cost was so satisfying. The same in PvP ... paired with an arms warrior it was insane. Or going offensively as a retribution pala. So fun to see horde melt down once you get that sweet procc and critluck in one go and oneshot rogues or clothies :D paired with some nice utilities from engineering PvP was a blast overall.
Hunters are also very good at farming once you hit 60. You can farm higher end dungeons solo to make gold. I plan on having a paladin healer main but will have a Hunter alt because they are fun to play and are good money makers.
@@Fioletowooki Cons: You'll look like shit all the way to naxxramas, if you wear your BiS items. But that's really the only downside to mage. If you don't care about that, you found your main.
@@Youre-absolutely-right I think another thing is.. you have to play frost spec for the first couple raids because of fire resist. Can't remember 100% though.
Guys, just pick a class you want to play. These days there are more specs viable than back at vanilla, because people have figured out you can play those. Druid and paladin have know more specs which are viable than we thought at classic. Yes they are not the best. And for me it was always so fun to heal as a paladin when the healer died or to give extra support during critical situations. There is more than just raw numbers.
Paladin has come of the best defensive cool downs! Fuck the meta i play the class i want to play. Cant wait untill they nerf warrior so all the greasy kids stop playing my class 😂
I lvled a Paladin to 60 in vanilla. It was the most boring thing I've ever done in WoW and at 60 the only thing you did was buff everyone every 5 min... Edit: to clarify 15 min raid buffs were added in patch 1.9 and will be in Classic
😂😂😂 same but thank god Greater blessings existed later I was a Ret DPS in a guild but I couldn't raid a lot because well.. nostalrius incident. I believe I raided molten core twice soo yeah Can't wait to get back in!
As to WHY I first chose a paladin - it was the description of the class on the starter page. I read all, but when I saw the pally - I thought, there I wanna be that guy. Lore followed soon after and kept me being a pally. Why did I choose Holy? Certainly not because of dungeons or raids ... I'd never heard of those! But FLASH OF LIGHT! When I was questing I'd see this other person struggling and in danger of imminent death, I'd toss a heal across. It felt great, so I stayed Holy. And today my beloved pally and I still roam the wilds of Azerothoth - tossing out a heal as we pass the wounded! And it still feels great.
I'm going with Shaman, because back in the day I started as an Arms Warrior. Without CC and amazing gear it was almost impossible to find a group, and I don't enjoy tanking, so I'll go with a more versatile and supportive class this time.
Shaman were brought for Mana Tide totem and chain heals, and windfury totem. Most classes were brought for one or two utilities basically...shamans also had to do quests to get all their individual totems, but ghost wolf at 20 made up for it
@@eaberrydc I remember all the discussions about whether a shaman could ever have a real viable offtank build. talking about all the talents you could choose and all the gear you could use etc.
Slight correction: the paladin 60 mount is not 'free', as you have to collect items to be able to get it. Otherwise, fantastic video! Keep up the good work!
The mount quest was so fun(did both pal and wl) I think every class should have had one. Would have made more end game materials more valuable to more people(lvl 50-60 mats). Starting on your epic mount quest on both classes really made it feel like "you've made it!" first hitting level 60. Just grinding gold to get your epic mount on other characters felt underwhelming.
I've always found rogues super easy and fun to level so it's surprising to me that you placed them so low. As long as you keep your weapons up to date with quest rewards, dungeon drops or blue BoEs off the AH you're golden. Your toolkit gives you more than enough survivability as it is.
The great thing about this video is that it gets to live on through time. Classic 2019, soon to be darrowshire and other pservers, and in the future a Classic Fresh as well.
I use to run a Resto Bear Tank for Raiding back in the day, a real Unydying tank even with bad healers back then since rotations and how quick some healers went Oom.
As someone who grinded to 60 from day 1 as a druid when getting a big hammer and auto attacking and keeping moonfire dots up was the fastest way to level. Be thankful that they are giving us end vanilla druids and not beginning vanilla druids. We were the absolute worst class to try and level. But god did I have fun doing it.
Finally someone who really played druid during vanila.. i am sick of those idiots who never played vanila and they think that Vanila was "balanced" Vanila was extremely unbalanced and we loved it for it. Unfortunatly for druids, we were at the bottom of this balance.
I made my druid almost the same time I made my other characters, and I had 3-4 60s for years while my druid was still level 14 what they don't tell you is leveling druid lvl 1-19 is worse than pallies; but once you get cat you're great
I've been really tempted to be a druid in vanilla and I love my druid in live, but I'm a boomkin at heart and I don't know how much I'll pvp. I was a hunter in vanilla which was also great at soloing and I love and sometimes miss the experience but maybe as an alt later haha
I Played a Warlock back in the real Vanilla days after Hunter and Warrior. Warrior i stopped at about lvl 20, Hunter i played up to 60 but never played the Hunter in Raids. Then i started the Warlock and that was a blast i loved my Warlock for years. Back in the days there were not many Warlocks you always had a safe place in every group. For me it was the best class in Vanilla WoW. Good old memories
I havent played wow for about 5 years now, but I did play a ton in Vanilla and TBC. Those periods were the best times in my life so far, when I hear the music in this video, I get filled with euforia, I cant wait until I can experience this again. Going for my trusty Shaman and I long so bad to experience the AQ era again, Im so sad I have to wait for mounths until its finally here but with all the polish for the client the REAL vanilla sorely lacked. This will be something to really bite your nails waiting for!
great video man! Personally though I would have added Paladins to tier 1 top in raiding personally. The blessings and unlimited healing is top tier. Reducing threat, massive mana gains from them, might for extra melee damage etc.. their support is simply unmatched.
In basic vanilla was also like that. I don't think you could stack them. You only had a judgment but if you put the wisdom or light seal on you could put the debuff on the boss.
@@LoreMaster007 yeees I was a Ret paladin in raids so I was doing the judging and helped with cleansing and the others just healed I love the paladins playstyle 💛
Had my warrior, swindle on Kilrog server EU, since 1.1 vanilla. Absolutely love my main. Took forever for me to learn how to actually play him. Now I’m tanking heroics on the casual and doing good dps when our in the world.
I leveled a protection paladin as my first character back in the day. That was a grind for the ages. At the time i didn’t know any better but I learned a lot. Think I’ll pass this time around.
Hunter class gameplay is a hell to manage, the pet food management is something to think about everytime, the arrows numbers are something to always look at, the deadzone mastery is a pain to learn, the mana management can also be a big problem if you mess up. It's one of the strongest class of the game, but certainly the hardest one to understand the basics and learn how to deal with your weaknesses Pros : - Really big damage output - Good survivability if you mastered your mechanics - Strong PVE if you mastered your mechanics - Pet tanking Cons : - Learning the mecanics is a really tough process you'll learn in pain and death - Ressources management can be really annoying after several hours of gameplay - No survivability in melee combat which leads you to death against oppononents who manage to reach you.
Subbed! Great guide, loved the visual data, great layout, and appreciated the to the point presentation. Most guides like this would've taken a whole hour and been filled with superfluous information.
It's so tough to choose which to pick for vanilla. Building a good reputation early on is essential, and leveling your first character takes the longest. Gold farming is also essential to afford the important stuff later on. So I'm super torn between leveling first a warrior to be an early tank, or paladin because everyone loves blessings, or hunter for farming gold, or mage which is what I'd prefer to do in a raid.
amazing review. I was a classic night elf Druid. Had to quit the game after falling behind so bad with each expansion. I’m excited for classic WOW. Thanks for the vid.
Best review of classic classes I've seen so far, although I have a couple different thoughts/opinions. I'd say your hunter review was spot on after mainning a hunter for 1 year 4 months on lightbringer. It absolutely has one of the highest skill caps, took me months to really start understanding how to play one effectively. Would like to see a TBC video if you're familiar with it.
I'm 34 now with a wife and 2 children. I work full time and as soon as this is live I'm buying a prescription and playing whenever I have free time. Which is nights when my kids are asleep lol
I remember the day when I played my warlock in Vanilla Wow, I use dot+wand all the way to level 60. My point is, wand is so important for casters in vanilla, especially at early level it makes your main weapon useless.
I just want to say I am 28 years old and played this game for most of my teenage years and do not regret a single second. As pathetic as this may sound I haven't been this excited for something in a long long time and it's kind of nice to relive the old times.
FYI for those who want to group: If your CAN heal, that is what you do and ONLY do. If your class CAN tank (aka Warrior) that is the ONLY thing you do. DPS classes have 1 spec that is supported with gear.
Hunter explanation was very good. My vanilla main was a BWL and later AQ geared hunter including the legendary quest from MC. I would call your assessment from a pure vanilla standpoint very accurate.
For PvE : Marksman or Beastmastur Hunter, Balance Druid, Discipline or Shadow Priest, Retribution Paladin, Demonology Warlock, Arcane Mage and Sublety Rogue. Played them in 2 accounts and loved them. But remember, Alliance and PVE only. Didn't like the shaman or the warrior. Warriors in Classic have to fight to the bitter end when they get adds while questing solo. And the one tip that nobody is mentioning : Wands. Priest, Warlock and Mage can PvE a ton using the wand to save on mana. Back in Classic, wands actually did damage, had autoshot, like a hunter's weapon but unlike the hunter's weapon, they never run out of ammo. Priest : Pain, Shield and wand. Mage : Arcane Missiles or Fire Blast, Mana Shield and wand. You get my drift :). Forget modern WoW.
Thought I wasn’t interested in classic. Then I watched some Kargoz videos. Thought I wanted to play a hunter in classic. Then I watched this video. Now I don’t know what to think. Thanks a lot, Kargoz.
I've been a Rogue since vanilla and only really played melee focused classes because that's what I felt comfortable at. I think it's time for a change, thank you for making this video I believe i'll try out a Mage for the upcoming Retail Classic wow.
Mages were a real hoot with the right trinkets and specs in Vanilla. Fire Arcane with POM / Pyro would 1 shot many classes in bg's. Also, Shamans were actually decent back then but not many people played them - at least on my sever.
Been playing different melee classes since TBC. When BfA hit, I decided to switch to a caster and went with mage. Pretty cool and all, but boring compared to melee classes. Just thought I should share this since it seems we both love melees.
Priest lacking mobility? I scoff at you non-priest peasants that have to SWIM in water! I've had some amazing pvp moments by trolling melees with Levitate!
Undead Shadow Priest at the Lumber Mill in Arathi Basin. Sooo much Mind Controlling, lol. Leave em with a SW:P after the landing if they didn't die. ;D
*Cough cough* Seal form *Cough cough* ^_^ So many funny moments watching my mage and hunter friends swimming across a lake or to/from a coast while I synchronise swim around them XD
Hhahaha omg that's awesome. I hid from a ganking party once by /sitting in shallow water. no breath bar and all you could see was a little ripple circle lol I was shitting myself >_>
Its wild to hear you say paladin is boring when your other video is so indepth. I think leveling through reckoning and seal of light is pretty fun and efficient. Gr8 video
Hunters were actually much harder to play than people give them credit for. Most hunters will just spam abilities and deal lackluster DPS, but if you truly want to maximize your DPS and at least be viable in raids, you have to carefully monitor your autoattacks and time your abilities to not interrupt autoattack cooldowns at the wrong moment. Considering how easy frost mages or destruction warlocks were to play in raids, hunters are one of the classes that require much more skill to be viable in raids.
However, good equipped and well playing hunter were very powerful in pvp. For my warlock they wre hardest opponents. I remember once upon time during vanilla I joined to AB and I had premade team of 14 hunters on my side :D That day I broke my record in honor. Every battle was pretty much just camping alliance starting respawn :D Even in case we met alliance premade.
Mermeoth dont forget that until pet normalization got introduced with the dire maul patch, hunter pets were completely broken as some rare pets had ridicolous 1 second attack cooldowns.
Great video! I'm currently leveling an Arms Warrior on a private server and am at level 31 and let me just say, you weren't wrong at all about the leveling experience. Leveling is INSANELY hard to do and keeping several stacks of food is a MUST. Also, world PvP has been very rough but I'm looking forward to it at level 60. All things considered, it's super fun to play and I'm really siked for level 60. Definitely going to be my go to class in WoW Classic.
If you have a job that don't allow you 2-3 hours of comfortable gametime you have a wrong job Relationship is a different issue so I'm gonna toss it aside before you mention it And also I have been playing on private servers so I don't have to be 12 again to play it I can play it today but not 8 hours a day but 2-3(and 0-24 on weekends 😎😎)
From all the 'classic wow class guides' I've seen pop up over the years, this is probably one of the best out there. Well written, straight to the point, great presentation with the graphs and points for pve and pvp and all the info is on point. You've definitely earned another sub, keep up the great work!
100% agree - straight to the point and virtually no fluff was something that really made it stick out. Loved those graphs too!!
I have seen bunch of thumbnails about this stuff, but they were pretty underwhelming, to the point I was thinking about TL:DWing and commenting "just make a graphs instead of ranting for long. Huge props for production value! :)
To be fair he just read reddit comments about each of the classes.
He thinks paladins get a free mount at 60. This guide is full of lies.
nice channel ! last video six year ago , and after vanila announce you start doing your shit ! congratz hypocrite
'Twas the night before classic, when all through the house, every creature watching classic guides and even the mouse
if this doesn't get 100 likes by launch tomorrow ill be disappointed lol
@@traderchad9000 you are disappointed
@@ape8572 not anymore
I was planning to go for the class that has the most nostalgic feelings for me but then I realize that the only thing I did during vanilla was class-hopping..
Nena Cherise Hunters are the most nostalgic for me as they’ve been completely changed throughout the years and Vanilla and today hunters feel like a totally different classes.
Factsss, prob gonna go Druid since I Main’d Druids during BC
same lol im gonna go class/race i havent gone before >:)
Nothing is sweeter than hopping around as a dwarven mage. :)
@@mikekatt9144 dwarfs cant be mages bud
Hunter - 1:01
Priest - 2:46
Druid - 4:09
Warrior - 5:52
Warlock - 7:15
Mage - 8:53
Rogue - 10:19
Paladin - 11:27
Shaman - 13:00
If your warsong gultch premade has a flag defender they don't know wtf they're doing. Mid control is the way to go.
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Thanks for the guide! Got my choice down to: Warlock, Druid, Paladin, Priest, Warrior, Shaman, Rogue. Hunter or Mage...
:D
At least you didn't hope to main a DeathKnight
@@scottagon my favourite class actually is dk so yikes
down to ... oh, al of them!!! Same here. I played druid and then a hunter in Vanilla.
I’m going undead warlock. Going to be grouped up with 2 of my cousins. One is going undead priest and the other is going tauren shaman. We’ll meet up around level 7 or so and then we are going to non stop play until we hit 30.
"Mages had a lot of downtime due to drinking."
Makes it sound like mages are prone to alcoholism.
1 year later and nobody has disagreed. I suspect your assessment was spot on.
Piper A R as a mage I can agree completely.
I'm oom every fight
@plutoG You can definitely kill 5-10 mobs before running out of mana generally whether that's through AOE or a mix of single target and wanding. However from 40ish and onward I often had to drink twice to fill up my mana entirely, and even when getting a new rank of water it would still be 1-2k below my total mana pool
@@FinallyCarrot thats why u ask a 60 mage in the city to make you 120 waters that are better for your level
48 years old now. Gave up in WOTLK. So did my whole guild. Shit, there are 8 of us so far heading back to the same old server! Rouge back then, but feeling a healing druid this time around! Excited.
marc carter awesome 👍🏽 we are under 3 weeks out, let the journey begin!
Same server? Germany, france, russia... they all have just 2 servers. One pvp and one pve one. Feels not classic enough
@@chrisk1458 As in we are going to play on the same one. The names have changed anyways. There were more servers. I think they will need to roll more out. But once the hype is over, things settle down, it may be enough. Time will tell. My guess is more will be added
marc carter
Classic will fail cause sadly blizz isnt blizz anymore
@@chrisk1458 tell that to the packed servers over this weekend. It's looking very good thus far.
The main thing I love about Vanilla is the music, the ambiance and the atmosphere in general.
"Pre-60 warrior life is rough to say the least" - no truer words have ever been spoken... man I remember how tough it was but it remains my favorite class to this day.
You know that feeling of pure excitement that you felt as a kid looking at christmas tree lights? That's how I'm feeling right now at 25 years old watching this video realizing that classic releases in one month.
Two more weeks!!!
and do its out
Coming from a guy who played on retail vanilla, feenix and nost for many years. You provided a very informed overview of all of the classes. I particularly liked the spell ranks that would see most use. Even illuding to use of shot walking. Will definitely check out more of your content.
Blizzcon comes, announces Classic launch in summer 19. And here I sit, watching video after video of classic game play. Summer is so far away :(
Note so far as you think it is, it's almost holydays
There are always some ways to play vanilla currently, pretty good to test things out and be ready 100% for release
play something like light's hope to choose your class
I feel u bro, sitting here and can't wait!
wow classic waiting room :/
I literally just got Vietnam-like horrible flashbacks when you said "mana burn"
Haha. Now remember night elf priests shadowmelding at the entrance to Molten Core and mind controlling people into the lava?
You could also mind control people out of battlegrounds. If they were fighting in the WG graveyard.
I have the same flashbacks, except they're of ganks in STV... the horror.... lol
Oh God, flashback nightmares....
Didn't hunters have their own mana burn...'viper sting' back in Vanilla?
Warrior all the way, I don't care if it's a grind I will do it as a prot spec warrior. I am not worried about how long it will take, Classic is about the journey in my opinion.
leveling as prot in vanilla was actually a lot faster. around 45-50. AoE leveling in both plaguelands.
@N0D3 Warrior leveling comprises of 3 things: The slowest 2H wpn u can find (typically a staff), fury's Blood Craze and Enrage talents (20 points in fury total) utilizing a /sit macro keybind which makes u take an automatic crit in combat, and stacking spirit gear to improve Blood Craze. Optionally bringing some food along helps as well.
You really don't need a buddy to level as a warrior. In fact with the above setup, you level faster than rogues do on average.
Level as a dps spec. You'll be able to tank fine til endgame with just a onehander and a shield and your CDs. Proper pulls and CC in dungeons will make it easy. If you really want to level as prot go for it, but you'll level faster as a dps with a twohander, while still being able to slap on a shield and tank. :D Just want you to know you have this option if you really want to tank.
@@PeasantKaitou sit Macro Not work anymore in wow classic , sry bro
Rylan Burback ya that sit crit doesn’t work in vanilla check blizzards notes on that.
By the time I had my first level 60 character in Vanilla, I had played all the different classes. My first 60, however, was Druid. I leveled from 1-60 as feral, and it was a blast. I loved the class quests, and the day I hit 60 I did the MC attune solo by stealthing to the rock in blackrock. As much fun as I had leveling and healing with druid in Vanilla, I will probably go Priest when Classic releases, because it too was a blast and it was more sought after for dungeons and raids. Good video, thank you.
I know both classes are quite saught after but was it too hard to find raid teams and so as a druid? And how about priests? I really cant decie which one to play
@@DanielRodriguez-ru5uk - Priests and Paladins were the most sought after. Most raids would have one druid for healing and would not allow any other druid class to play. You would usually see one Shaman as well.
@@27Zangle You have either Shaman or Pally.. so sought after heals depended on faction. Often more than one Shaman is used in bigger raids.. I think you might be thinking of TBC or something.
@@fudgefudge8913 - I played both factions. two horde 60's and one alliance 60. This could also depend on server and guild. I know my guild(s) only had 1-2 Shamans for raids.
@@27Zangle True true. I still can't decide what I want to play, though. xD
"You'll have a great time if you pick shaman" i guess we aren't gonna tell them about the water totem quest!?!
I remember playing Shaman and thinking that was gonna be normal and everyone was going to have to do something like that.
SHHHHHHH dont tell em
@@crenshawpete273 now do that 4 times and you have the warlock experience for every. fucking. pet. water totem quest was nothing compared to lock quests.
*vietnamesse flashbacks*
@@serieSPsycho tell me please I cant wait for classic and cant even chose a character to play
"All classes are 10/10 would recommend " --IGN
"10/10 It's Okay" -IGN
IGN: 1/10-its not Call of Duty
As long as you're not playing a balance druid you can make it work.
9/10 - Too much water.
William Brown balance was my favorite :(
These views and recommendations are only opinions and are in no way perfect. There are many players more knowledgeable and more skilled than me and this is simply my interpretation based off my anecdotal experience playing on and off since 2006. I hope this guide can be helpful with the launch of Kronos 3 on the horizon and Classic WoW. Thanks for everything guys I really appreciate all the support.
IS WoW classic out?
Good video, but especially on Paladin, two major issues really need to be pointed out more:
- Buffing having such a short duration means you are buffing more often than not. Check the duration, it's absolutely pathetic.
- For serious raiding, you went Holy. The lack of a defense against fear and the lower mitigation meant that Protection was not useful unless you switched to another tank for over half(!) the bosses. You couldn't even help with all the taunt reliant bosses, such as the drakes or Four Horsemen. Retribution, meanwhile, was bad due to the threat being so high, and your damage being comparatively low. So if you want to raid and not heal, don't pick a Paladin. YOU WILL HOLD YOUR GROUP BACK IF YOU DO NOT PICK HOLY, unfortunately.
In fact, if you use "buffs" as a strength, do notice that protection falls flat on its face because you cannot keep up threat AND buffs.
You need to be careful with the color pallet. The rogue and priest colors is very close to the unlit circles and made the it near impossible to distinguish in a laptop monitor! Always try to use colors with high contrast to improve legibility.
A great video with clear info, but was it me or did you skip quite lightly over the paladin and shaman pvp?
I was originally planning to play an Undead Rogue, but your description of the Feral/Resto hybrid druid sounds really fun. Gave me a lot to consider.
It'll be fun getting into wow after a 5 year hiatus. I even convinced my brother and dad to get back into it with me. We've already decided on a prot warrior, holy priest, and arcane mage group comp. Don't know how many dungeons or raids we'll run, but we can't wait to get back into bgs.
I have to stop watching these kinds of videos. They get me so hyped and yet the game is still so far from being re-released. The struggle is real.
Kronos 3
same
Light's Hope noob ;)
ninjalacoon the game is being rereleased? I played back in '04-08 haven't played since college. Why would they rerelease?
jrg305 yeah there will be classic servers
THE LONGEST 4 HOURS IN MY ENTIRE LIFE, LETs GO BOISSSS
What class to pick? Your favorite theme > meta/grafs
What race to pick? Looks > Racials
I loved playing my paladin back then. Yes, in raids you mainly buff and spam flash of light or holy light but it was still awesome. That moment you could pop divine favor (I think it was called like that) and give a critical heal without any mana cost was so satisfying. The same in PvP ... paired with an arms warrior it was insane. Or going offensively as a retribution pala. So fun to see horde melt down once you get that sweet procc and critluck in one go and oneshot rogues or clothies :D paired with some nice utilities from engineering PvP was a blast overall.
Holy pally is a win, satisfying to roll the horde over and over
I'm a Wrath baby but I already feel nostalgic. Great guide, definitely paid special attention to the hunter one.
Us wrath babies got to play what was essentially the vanilla experience while leveling, so we should have an easier time than the post-Wrath people
You might go hunter then? Honestly, hunter wasn't as bad in raids as people say it was. I do recommend it.
Hunters are also very good at farming once you hit 60. You can farm higher end dungeons solo to make gold. I plan on having a paladin healer main but will have a Hunter alt because they are fun to play and are good money makers.
Picking a class in vanilla is like dancing on mine field, you will regret this sooner or later...
lmao that is a legendary quote mate
i already made a decision: Mage. Making food, water, portals and teleports.
I think i'll pick a mage because it's easy to move from one place to another and just be generally useful
@@Fioletowooki Cons: You'll look like shit all the way to naxxramas, if you wear your BiS items. But that's really the only downside to mage. If you don't care about that, you found your main.
@@Youre-absolutely-right I think another thing is.. you have to play frost spec for the first couple raids because of fire resist. Can't remember 100% though.
Guys, just pick a class you want to play. These days there are more specs viable than back at vanilla, because people have figured out you can play those.
Druid and paladin have know more specs which are viable than we thought at classic. Yes they are not the best.
And for me it was always so fun to heal as a paladin when the healer died or to give extra support during critical situations. There is more than just raw numbers.
Paladin has come of the best defensive cool downs! Fuck the meta i play the class i want to play. Cant wait untill they nerf warrior so all the greasy kids stop playing my class 😂
I lvled a Paladin to 60 in vanilla. It was the most boring thing I've ever done in WoW and at 60 the only thing you did was buff everyone every 5 min...
Edit: to clarify 15 min raid buffs were added in patch 1.9 and will be in Classic
😂😂😂 same but thank god Greater blessings existed later I was a Ret DPS in a guild but I couldn't raid a lot because well.. nostalrius incident. I believe I raided molten core twice soo yeah
Can't wait to get back in!
I leveled as a holy paladin and just loved it. Raid healed and just loved it. I cant wait!
I knew it wasn't just me. I could never seriously get into being a Paladin. How did so many find it so enjoyable?
because lore i guess
As to WHY I first chose a paladin - it was the description of the class on the starter page. I read all, but when I saw the pally - I thought, there I wanna be that guy. Lore followed soon after and kept me being a pally.
Why did I choose Holy? Certainly not because of dungeons or raids ... I'd never heard of those! But FLASH OF LIGHT! When I was questing I'd see this other person struggling and in danger of imminent death, I'd toss a heal across. It felt great, so I stayed Holy.
And today my beloved pally and I still roam the wilds of Azerothoth - tossing out a heal as we pass the wounded! And it still feels great.
I'm going with Shaman, because back in the day I started as an Arms Warrior. Without CC and amazing gear it was almost impossible to find a group, and I don't enjoy tanking, so I'll go with a more versatile and supportive class this time.
What cc? Hex? Lol
Shaman were brought for Mana Tide totem and chain heals, and windfury totem.
Most classes were brought for one or two utilities basically...shamans also had to do quests to get all their individual totems, but ghost wolf at 20 made up for it
shaman is horde only sho you know
vanilla/bc shaman could do emergency off tanking with rockbiter and shield. I saved a few wipes in dungeons that way
@@eaberrydc I remember all the discussions about whether a shaman could ever have a real viable offtank build. talking about all the talents you could choose and all the gear you could use etc.
Slight correction: the paladin 60 mount is not 'free', as you have to collect items to be able to get it. Otherwise, fantastic video! Keep up the good work!
Same for Warlock and his ,,free,, - quest Dreadsteed
The mount quest was so fun(did both pal and wl) I think every class should have had one. Would have made more end game materials more valuable to more people(lvl 50-60 mats). Starting on your epic mount quest on both classes really made it feel like "you've made it!" first hitting level 60. Just grinding gold to get your epic mount on other characters felt underwhelming.
I've always found rogues super easy and fun to level so it's surprising to me that you placed them so low. As long as you keep your weapons up to date with quest rewards, dungeon drops or blue BoEs off the AH you're golden. Your toolkit gives you more than enough survivability as it is.
The great thing about this video is that it gets to live on through time. Classic 2019, soon to be darrowshire and other pservers, and in the future a Classic Fresh as well.
Another awesome video man. This channel will skyrocket in the time leading up to Classic.
I use to run a Resto Bear Tank for Raiding back in the day, a real Unydying tank even with bad healers back then since rotations and how quick some healers went Oom.
I would run it for capture the flag too, was fairly successful, but haven't given it a go in classic yet, just vanilla
Personally I found paladin leveling pretty enjoyable, cause they could solo most group quests unless there were multiple mobs around of course.
Back in Classic I always played a warrior or a hunter. But because of this guide I might be maining a warlock this coming summer :D
@@shoban yeah, what did u choose?:)
I chose Warlock again!
As someone who grinded to 60 from day 1 as a druid when getting a big hammer and auto attacking and keeping moonfire dots up was the fastest way to level. Be thankful that they are giving us end vanilla druids and not beginning vanilla druids. We were the absolute worst class to try and level. But god did I have fun doing it.
Finally someone who really played druid during vanila.. i am sick of those idiots who never played vanila and they think that Vanila was "balanced"
Vanila was extremely unbalanced and we loved it for it.
Unfortunatly for druids, we were at the bottom of this balance.
You will start with bad druid btw
I made my druid almost the same time I made my other characters, and I had 3-4 60s for years while my druid was still level 14
what they don't tell you is leveling druid lvl 1-19 is worse than pallies; but once you get cat you're great
@elviade ?
Druids were my favorite, always fascinated me, especially night elf druids
I've been really tempted to be a druid in vanilla and I love my druid in live, but I'm a boomkin at heart and I don't know how much I'll pvp. I was a hunter in vanilla which was also great at soloing and I love and sometimes miss the experience but maybe as an alt later haha
I Played a Warlock back in the real Vanilla days after Hunter and Warrior. Warrior i stopped at about lvl 20, Hunter i played up to 60 but never played the Hunter in Raids. Then i started the Warlock and that was a blast i loved my Warlock for years. Back in the days there were not many Warlocks you always had a safe place in every group. For me it was the best class in Vanilla WoW. Good old memories
Paladin: 'You get a free mount at 60'
Me: Paying 600 gold in donations and mats for the quest.
Shh
One of the best videos about vanilla
Light be with you!
SUPER nice job, man. Top notch delivery, pacing, editing... the whole package. I'm now a subscriber.
thank you for such a kind comment - your feedback is really appreciated mate. have an awesome day! :)
I havent played wow for about 5 years now, but I did play a ton in Vanilla and TBC.
Those periods were the best times in my life so far, when I hear the music in this video, I get filled with euforia, I cant wait until I can experience this again.
Going for my trusty Shaman and I long so bad to experience the AQ era again, Im so sad I have to wait for mounths until its finally here but with all the polish for the client the REAL vanilla sorely lacked.
This will be something to really bite your nails waiting for!
leveling a WAR always been a War!. War path is bloody but at the end u get the Glory feeling of becoming a True Warrior!
great video man! Personally though I would have added Paladins to tier 1 top in raiding personally. The blessings and unlimited healing is top tier. Reducing threat, massive mana gains from them, might for extra melee damage etc.. their support is simply unmatched.
And pretty much why most people who raided were Alliance.
Don't forget judgments. Raid needs mana? Judgment of wisdom. Raid needs heals? Judgment of light!
In basic vanilla was also like that. I don't think you could stack them. You only had a judgment but if you put the wisdom or light seal on you could put the debuff on the boss.
@@LoreMaster007 yeees I was a Ret paladin in raids so I was doing the judging and helped with cleansing and the others just healed I love the paladins playstyle 💛
finally a channel with quality visuals and a clear voice. gj
wow thanks so much for the kind words..much appreciated..
Had my warrior, swindle on Kilrog server EU, since 1.1 vanilla. Absolutely love my main. Took forever for me to learn how to actually play him. Now I’m tanking heroics on the casual and doing good dps when our in the world.
Great video. I enjoyed the simplistic, yet thorough, way you took us through each class and their key elements. Thank you!
Informative and good quality video production. Can't wait for more!
Doesn't matter which class I play when I'll probably suck in all of them :D
haha same
I leveled a protection paladin as my first character back in the day. That was a grind for the ages. At the time i didn’t know any better but I learned a lot. Think I’ll pass this time around.
Hunter class gameplay is a hell to manage, the pet food management is something to think about everytime, the arrows numbers are something to always look at, the deadzone mastery is a pain to learn, the mana management can also be a big problem if you mess up.
It's one of the strongest class of the game, but certainly the hardest one to understand the basics and learn how to deal with your weaknesses
Pros :
- Really big damage output
- Good survivability if you mastered your mechanics
- Strong PVE if you mastered your mechanics
- Pet tanking
Cons :
- Learning the mecanics is a really tough process you'll learn in pain and death
- Ressources management can be really annoying after several hours of gameplay
- No survivability in melee combat which leads you to death against oppononents who manage to reach you.
Man, I'm gonna have such a hard time picking a class. They all seem so fun!
First thing I’ll do in vanilla is bubble hearth
You can do that on retail still.
Super Krusher yea but before you could do it and actually have enough time to hearth in the bubble. Last time I played in pandaria that was long gone
They added it back.
Hah 👍🏼
That trinket to call on a paladin that does this shortly after helping. Lol
Subbed! Great guide, loved the visual data, great layout, and appreciated the to the point presentation. Most guides like this would've taken a whole hour and been filled with superfluous information.
As someone who played a lot of classic I have zero arguments. Well done. In particular you nailed priests like an SVU cop.
This was a really great vid Kargoz, awesome sound quality - thanks for this, helped me a lot when I'm super indecisive! Liked and subbed.
It's so tough to choose which to pick for vanilla. Building a good reputation early on is essential, and leveling your first character takes the longest. Gold farming is also essential to afford the important stuff later on. So I'm super torn between leveling first a warrior to be an early tank, or paladin because everyone loves blessings, or hunter for farming gold, or mage which is what I'd prefer to do in a raid.
Man I miss the old shaman lightning bolt , and hunters starting with an axe ! Nostalgia hit !
amazing review. I was a classic night elf Druid. Had to quit the game after falling behind so bad with each expansion. I’m excited for classic WOW. Thanks for the vid.
Druid is still the best class for post box dancing in bear form ofc.
Best review of classic classes I've seen so far, although I have a couple different thoughts/opinions. I'd say your hunter review was spot on after mainning a hunter for 1 year 4 months on lightbringer. It absolutely has one of the highest skill caps, took me months to really start understanding how to play one effectively. Would like to see a TBC video if you're familiar with it.
Nick like?
I'm 34 now with a wife and 2 children. I work full time and as soon as this is live I'm buying a prescription and playing whenever I have free time.
Which is nights when my kids are asleep lol
Prot Pally leveling trough dungeons is a dream! One of the best leveling experiences. You are in high demand as a leveling tank.
I remember the day when I played my warlock in Vanilla Wow, I use dot+wand all the way to level 60. My point is, wand is so important for casters in vanilla, especially at early level it makes your main weapon useless.
I'll be playing Warlock, it's the most interesting class imo. The free mount is also a nice bonus.
Man as long as it took, it was super satisfying to finish the Warlock Epic mount quest. I always felt so proud of my epic mount.
Warlock is cool until you start raiding then you are forced into a spec that just spams shadowbolts.
That doesn't bother me.
I just want to say I am 28 years old and played this game for most of my teenage years and do not regret a single second. As pathetic as this may sound I haven't been this excited for something in a long long time and it's kind of nice to relive the old times.
FYI for those who want to group: If your CAN heal, that is what you do and ONLY do. If your class CAN tank (aka Warrior) that is the ONLY thing you do. DPS classes have 1 spec that is supported with gear.
OOM man those bring back the days of trying to heal as a holy pally
Where literally all you did was spam flash of light?
Thanks for the vid. Im having a hard time deciding what to play when classic comes out.
I went Priest, and Warrior. I hate waiting for a dungeon group so this should help
Hunter explanation was very good. My vanilla main was a BWL and later AQ geared hunter including the legendary quest from MC. I would call your assessment from a pure vanilla standpoint very accurate.
Overall, all classes are fun to play! :D
Can't wait for the release!
Great video. Definitely thinking of going warlock.
For PvE : Marksman or Beastmastur Hunter, Balance Druid, Discipline or Shadow Priest, Retribution Paladin, Demonology Warlock, Arcane Mage and Sublety Rogue. Played them in 2 accounts and loved them. But remember, Alliance and PVE only. Didn't like the shaman or the warrior. Warriors in Classic have to fight to the bitter end when they get adds while questing solo.
And the one tip that nobody is mentioning : Wands. Priest, Warlock and Mage can PvE a ton using the wand to save on mana. Back in Classic, wands actually did damage, had autoshot, like a hunter's weapon but unlike the hunter's weapon, they never run out of ammo. Priest : Pain, Shield and wand. Mage : Arcane Missiles or Fire Blast, Mana Shield and wand. You get my drift :). Forget modern WoW.
I’ve been watching a lot of wow classic vids and this is the first one that’s entertaining and most accuratev
I’m going Mage.
Porting and food/water is too priceless to pass up.
12:35 "leveling as a paladin was...pretty damn boring to be honest."
12:53 "and overall, pretty fun class to play in Classic."
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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He’s right pallies are fun my OG toon in tbc.. but the leveling is mad slow
Best wow classic class guide? Yes , very much yes. Great work!!
Going back through Tirisfal/Silverpine/Hillsbrad as my Forsaken lock main will be sweet indeed.
thanks got me down to only 3 class to possible main
(warlock,hunter,shaman) (maybe priest)
Great video mate!
Thought I wasn’t interested in classic. Then I watched some Kargoz videos.
Thought I wanted to play a hunter in classic. Then I watched this video.
Now I don’t know what to think. Thanks a lot, Kargoz.
I'm usually melee, but I remember being a caster during vanilla. I remember why. Thanks for jogging my memory.
I've been a Rogue since vanilla and only really played melee focused classes because that's what I felt comfortable at. I think it's time for a change, thank you for making this video I believe i'll try out a Mage for the upcoming Retail Classic wow.
Mages were a real hoot with the right trinkets and specs in Vanilla. Fire Arcane with POM / Pyro would 1 shot many classes in bg's. Also, Shamans were actually decent back then but not many people played them - at least on my sever.
Been playing different melee classes since TBC. When BfA hit, I decided to switch to a caster and went with mage. Pretty cool and all, but boring compared to melee classes. Just thought I should share this since it seems we both love melees.
Priest lacking mobility? I scoff at you non-priest peasants that have to SWIM in water! I've had some amazing pvp moments by trolling melees with Levitate!
Undead Shadow Priest at the Lumber Mill in Arathi Basin. Sooo much Mind Controlling, lol. Leave em with a SW:P after the landing if they didn't die. ;D
@Thelondonbadger good times :-)
*Cough cough* Seal form *Cough cough* ^_^
So many funny moments watching my mage and hunter friends swimming across a lake or to/from a coast while I synchronise swim around them XD
Hhahaha omg that's awesome. I hid from a ganking party once by /sitting in shallow water. no breath bar and all you could see was a little ripple circle lol I was shitting myself >_>
mrfool21 we shams had Jesus mode
Probably the best "pick a class" video I've seen for classic.
Its wild to hear you say paladin is boring when your other video is so indepth. I think leveling through reckoning and seal of light is pretty fun and efficient. Gr8 video
Time Stamps:
1:01 Hunter
2:45 Priest
4:09 Druid
5:54 Warrior
7:17 Warlock
8:54 Mage
10:19 Rogue
11:28 Paladin
13:01 Shaman
Hunter supporting highest skill ceiling... oh how times have changed
XD I think pressing kill command takes a lot of skill too these days
They didn't get the huntard stigma for no reason. A tard could play a hunter well. Guy prolly mains hunter tbh.
Hunters were actually much harder to play than people give them credit for. Most hunters will just spam abilities and deal lackluster DPS, but if you truly want to maximize your DPS and at least be viable in raids, you have to carefully monitor your autoattacks and time your abilities to not interrupt autoattack cooldowns at the wrong moment.
Considering how easy frost mages or destruction warlocks were to play in raids, hunters are one of the classes that require much more skill to be viable in raids.
However, good equipped and well playing hunter were very powerful in pvp. For my warlock they wre hardest opponents.
I remember once upon time during vanilla I joined to AB and I had premade team of 14 hunters on my side :D
That day I broke my record in honor. Every battle was pretty much just camping alliance starting respawn :D Even in case we met alliance premade.
Mermeoth dont forget that until pet normalization got introduced with the dire maul patch, hunter pets were completely broken as some rare pets had ridicolous 1 second attack cooldowns.
Great video! I'm currently leveling an Arms Warrior on a private server and am at level 31 and let me just say, you weren't wrong at all about the leveling experience. Leveling is INSANELY hard to do and keeping several stacks of food is a MUST. Also, world PvP has been very rough but I'm looking forward to it at level 60. All things considered, it's super fun to play and I'm really siked for level 60. Definitely going to be my go to class in WoW Classic.
When the creator starts talking about druids and it makes me remember all the times in bg enemies would run away as soon as they saw me pop Boomkin 😁😅
Should be great once it comes out in the next 4-5 years.
Blizzcon WoW classic demo will be available :)
Early 2019 and you will be playing classic 💛💛
...For 2 weeks with everyone else until you realize it's not magically going to make you 12 again and get fed up.
If you have a job that don't allow you 2-3 hours of comfortable gametime you have a wrong job
Relationship is a different issue so I'm gonna toss it aside before you mention it
And also I have been playing on private servers so I don't have to be 12 again to play it
I can play it today but not 8 hours a day but 2-3(and 0-24 on weekends 😎😎)
@Zsolt Siro More like LATE 2019.
@@SuperYtc1 yes game companies creates a demo for a game that will be released a year later you are amazing
March or April and classic will be out
Awesome video. Really great production value
This is just a fantastic video! Thank you so much for this!
This is the best of these videos Ive seen. Thanks for making it.
"Shadow Priests melt faces in PVP" (I get the reference :D)
Human rogue in 2005, undead warlock in 2019. My body is ready
So you decayed overtime and gained mystical powers ?
@@chaosakazero heheheh
I liked the part of the video best, where he talked about the classes... And on a serious note, thank you for a nice class guide :)
Time Stamps:
@1:01 Hunter
@2:46 Priest
@4:08 Druid
@5:49 Warrior
@7:16 Warlock
@8:53 Mage
@10:18 Rogue
@11:27 Paladin
@13:00 Shaman