I don’t trust Zuck either but I’m already on instagram, so this feels like an extension of that. Better than both Musk and Zuck having my data. I fully expect Meta to ruin Threads when they start monetizing but we have a few years until then. When that time comes I’m sure a new competitor will arise.
My reaction to ads is either one of two things: I either don't notice the ad or (if it is too annoying) I will just pull the ripcord and leave the whole site. I happily pay to have an ad free experience on sites I use every day (YT/Spotify), but if I'm browsing Twitch and I am faced with 6 30-second ads back to back before I can even watch a second of the streamers content, I will literally just close the website and go watch YT or something. Not worth my time.
As a former Twitch enthusiast, it's the only reason I purchased Twitch Turbo: I essentially Lived on the site so having ads gone was mandatory. And it sucks too because some channels had ads disabled Only If I subbed to them so it kinda left me getting gifted subs rather than supporting them myself.
I used to pay for yt premium for 2yrs then google said hi u have to use credit card from the same county currency ur using , so I simply can’t pay for premium because I’m from a country where premium is not available and I don’t have credit from another country so WTF GOOGLE !
@@williamhalstediqJust about every company does that for licensing/copywrite in YT/YT Music has region specific music and videos that are verified by address and location of payment currency
@@psicosis4 yep I noticed that when I use spotify,firstspotify did not exist in my country like a year ago and when it did , there is no podcasts, audiobooks, even some of the music aren't available. It sucks.
You guys should definitely add a wider angle of the three of you for the podcast in the future. There are a lot of moments where Marques and one of the other two are playing off each other and I feel that missing in those moments.
The tweet limit caused an actual problem for the Chicago NASCAR race because the organizers were only communicating through Twitter during the rain delays.
Meta tried to kill RUclips with igtv, they tried to kill Snapchat with slingshot, they tried to kill TikTok with reels. Will threads be different? I don’t think so, i think it’s just initial hype, like mixer and probably like kick.
The main difference is that all those competing services were all doing well and had users actually liked them. Fb/meta had an uphill climb to grab marketshare. Twitter is falling apart and it's users are actively looking for alternatives. Threads is the low effort, "oh, I already have instagram" easy option for many folks.
@@elck3 Lost half it's value in a few months. Chased away ad venue. Now down 40% Tells no one they are rate limiting people until complaints come in. Etc.
@@elck3have you been on twitter lately? The algorithm now pushes verified accounts to the top of everything so before I see most of the tweets and replies I want to read I have to sift through a bunch of Elon fanboys and MAGA nuts to get there. That’s what killed it for me
@@theobservarator6424Meanwhile, once you connect to Threads, you can't delete it without deleting your Instagram, also, your private data will be sold to the highest bidder (you know, Mark loves your private data), Threads censors any dissenting voices that goes against their narrative, it doesn't offer free speech, You truly trust Zuckerborg?? Really😂😂😂
As a part of gen z, I'm seeing a lot of my friends (myself included) jump onto the threads train that never previously used Twitter- I wonder if this is a trend that's gonna be noticeable.
I hate that these ad conversations don’t acknowledge the privacy impact. Back in the day our tvs weren’t cataloging every piece of our existence as we watched a made for tv ad.
@@LoosetweezersI think nowadays a lot of people would pick Zuck over elon, especially considering that instagram already got everyone's data so threads ain't gonna do much and the people that care about data privacy would rather have 1 billionaire have it instead of 2
I think RUclips should allow creators to insert their own sponsored ads without them having to be baked into the video. This would allow sponsored videos to be skipped for premium users and allow creators to have relevant channel sponsors (so you're not watching an old video about a giveaway that happened 5 years ago).
💯💯💯 how many youtubers I supported on Patreon that had to upload ad-free videos or podcasts there and I seldom took advantage of it cuz I just watched their stuff on RUclips where I still get their baked in ads despite having RUclips Premium..
@@Random_dud31 presumably RUclips would still run their own pre-roll or mid roll ads that have the 45/55 cut or they would take a cut of the sponsored ad segments. Essentially this would give premium users the opportunity to skip a video sponsor and allow creators to replace a sponsor in a single video with a channel sponsor that way that way the sponsor spots are more relevant.
@@EthanBeer6 Haha I see the irony but to me, RUclips is more TV than social media. I use this platform way differently than I’d use Facebook or Twitter if that makes sense.
The part that confused me about Threads is the lack of #hashtag and trending. The current search system only shows accounts, not the "topic". I think the words and conversation should still be priority.
Do we really want to give meta ANOTHER chance to turn a good social media into Facebook? Instagram has a rate limit and as someone who spends all his off time on their conversing with people i get capped on a regular basis.
You can tell this was recorded before Threads dropped because they didn't drop everything and talk about that first. Because since it went live, EVERYTHING has been about Threads.
Early internet ads were also terrible. They would take up 10-25% of the entire page. And on a 28k or 56k modem, loading a ad that covers that much of your screen just dumps your entire experience. Then the ads with pop ups got rediculous - like 4-5 pop ups, each with music. Early ads were spam. Google really evolved that space to where they work and its more of a cooperative relationship. I used netscape back in the day and 15%+ of your brower was permenent rotating ads, it was obnoxious.
@@firerainnzz app in China that is kinda like WhatsApp but it also does everything any Meta app does. You can do almost anything on it really. Searching it on here would help explain it more as it’s not that easy to describe in a message.
I have this issue with Threats in the perspective of an artist. If you’re part of the artist community, you will know that the algorithm is just straight out crap where it pushes only reels, even a single image reel, more than their posts themselves, and that the posts have a really hard time reaching your own audience, where sometimes it will be less than 10% of your followers that even see it, much less interact with it, which is natural. Plus, the feed isn’t natural, it’s based on this algorithm, and you can’t change that like in Twitter. Also the censorship in Instagram was much worse than in Twitter and RUclips, and that’s already a low standard. It was such a great platform before the zucchini bought it and it has just gotten worse and worse since 2020. Let’s say Threats is great right now. Who says it won’t just turn into Instagram 2.0?!
I'm surprised you didn't mention that Threads will have ActivityPub support after launch, for those out of the loop that means it will be cross compatible with Mastodon as well as Tumblr when they also implement it. Imo this largely solves the lack of people problem from Mastodon, you'll be able to follow threads accounts from your Masto account and vice versa so you won't have to use Threads if you don't want Great discussions this episode tho!
The clause of them deleting your IG if you delete your Threads account is like a hostage situation....and the insane privacy policy. Like making a deal with the devil...and holding a sign "hey please spy on me 24/7". It makes Facebook and Instagram look like privacy advocates.
@@hastyscorpion I double checked on phonearena’s size comparison - the s23 is actually .01 inch smaller in length and thickness (but yes, actually .11 inches wider). This correlates with the mm changes. … I dunno though. The distinction seems pretty arbitrary … But I’m typing this response on my 13 mini, so. It just feels like at a point “small” no longer matters if a phone is that big.
The problem with the threads “people” is it’s largely an audience that use ig and not twitter. Therefore it’s people using it like ig stories or posts. The use case by its audience is still a little misunderstood
4:42 ZenFone 10 is not "definitively" the smallest 8 Gen 2 phone. The S23 is 0.2mm shorter and is 1.8mm thinner. The S23 is closer in size to the S10e than the ZenFone is, being 4.1mm taller vs. 4.3mm taller for the ZenFone.
As some others have pointed out, the Palm Pre is the first smartphone with wireless charging as a possibility. The technicalities about it requiring a separate back don't eliminate it from the question and the charging ability was included later anyway. The question has to be very specific for it to be the Nokia 920.
The Palm Pre 2 had the feature built in without needing to replace the back cover like the first one. It launched a year ahead of the 920 so I think the answer was wrong no matter what.
I owned the Nokia Lumia 920, best smartphone I ever owned. First with wireless charging, also first with image stabilization. And yes, it was a real smartphone, way better than any Android phone at that time. I miss windows phone.
Thanks to Andrew for bringing this point to light, but just some specifics (L x W measurements in mm): 131.5 x 64.2 - iPhone 13 mini 146.5 x 68.1 - ZenFone 9 & 10 146.7 x 71.5 - iPhone 14 But now the interesting part… the ZenFone is thicker than iPhone, so its total volume is actually 10.97-14.63% (for the zf9-zf10) BIGGER than the iPhone 14 (not a mini). Even the iPhone 14 Pro is a significantly smaller phone than either ZenFone by volume. Still like it though, I’m just very sad a true mini form factor is dead, and I probably would’ve switched to ZF if it was actually iPhone mini sized, but I’m sticking with my 13 mini
I have a mini and I think this will last me 3 more years so I wouldn’t jump to upgrading it anyway right now just hope that somehow apple releases a new mini in 2 years
I never understand what makes Twitter so interesting for people like MKBHD or anyone else. at around 39:00 he said Twitter has DMs, image sharing, etc. well, FB has all of that too. politicians, celebrities, social media personalities, they are all on FB too
It's perfect for background at work when doing more repetitive work. Same with ColdFusion's Through the Web podcast. I can listen to my favorite creators for a long period of time, whereas I can't view the main channel vids because I would be glued them and couldn't focus enough on the task at hand :)
Brave browser never has that issue. Brave browser gets rid of as 100% on the browser and they’re three times faster browser and they were privacy browser and I really like their browser. And the browser let you have a choice if you don’t want ads on RUclips, they won’t give your ads 100% but if you want ads on the Brave browser app they will give it to you 100% you just have to turn a toggle off you don’t want ads at all that won’t be ads on RUclips 100% but if you want and then they can give it to you if you want it if you turn the toggle off 100% I love brave browser.
The answer to the first question is wrong. The Palm Pre supported wireless charging back in 2009. It was one of the big selling points of the Palm Pre.
@@Call_Me_David what do you mean? The wireless charging back was included with the phone? Yeah the wireless charger was sold separately but that’s always been the case?
@@zaclaramay When I bought it, it didn't come with the wireless charging back. You had to buy a kit that had the replacement back and the charging base. From Wikipedia: "The Touchstone Charger requires a compatible back cover, which was sold separately from the Pre but included in subsequent models." en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Pre
@@Call_Me_David yup I forgot that it was included with my Palm Pre Plus but not the first Sprint version. but that doesn’t change the point that it’s still the first smartphone to include wireless charging?
Thread now will track and see everything on your phone. It's in the agreement you accepted without reading. Better not have any bad OR NASTY info on your phone or computer, Threads can collect data such as a user's location, their personal information, financial information, health and fitness, messages, photos and videos, files and documents, calendar events, and more because nothing is for free
I haven't watched this, only read the title because I can't watch another chicken little twitter is failing video. Seriously do you realize how ridiculous this is to make the same video over and over? Is Twitter perfect, no, but Andrew has been begging for it to fail since Elon bought it and its just exhausting, All the while it keeps chugging along proving the skeptics wrong time and time again. This latest joke of a competition is just that, a joke. It is nothing more than a continued data farm by one of the top two data farming companies in the world. Will threads fail as fast as every other "twitter killer" probably not, because meta is far better at manipulating their clients than most, but it will never become "new twitter." It will only ever be, just another failed attempt to kill twitter
If Threads and Tumblr actually join the Fediverse, then the threat of one all powerful company owning social media is greatly reduced. You can just migrate yourself and your followers to another instance if Meta gets weird.
Threads and meta suck. Its no Twitter competitor. Its just a lazy app that allows existing insta users to use it. Thats the only reason it has active users I hope all of meta crashes and goes bankrupt. But sadly its too impt for that to happen. And the govt loves zuck, he lets them access all of his consumers afterall.
I find it funny how everyone cared so much about privacy, but as soon as they had to give it up to hate on what was popular to hate on (Twitter), they just sold their privacy back to Meta without hesitation. Really goes to show that most of what everyone does on social media is nothing more than trying to do what's popular rather than to actually do what's right.
Just because something is widely hated, doesn’t mean it’s suddenly hated because it’s hated. Elon’s mishandling of Twitter quickly grew into a staggeringly long list. From his public harassment of his own employees to his sharing of flagrantly transphobic and homophobic content - it’s become clear to anyone paying attention that Twitter is a wildly toxic place. Thread’s popularity is a testament to just how shitty of a person Elon is. He managed to outshit Zuckerberg. That took dedication.
@@gfyGoogle I can see that, honestly! I have seen the complaints about Twitter. Although, I just do find it weird that suddenly privacy doesn't matter anymore just to "stick it" to one guy. Basically, sacrificing a human right and enslaving your data to Meta which has been the exact opposite of what people have wanted in the past few years. I just don't see how undoing all that work to get people away from Meta can be helpful overall regardless of the reason. It's like it was all meant for show and not actually because anyone cared about privacy, and the big, objectively evil, corporation that is Meta is now winning again. However, thank you for explaining that point! Although I don't really understand fully to agree, I do appreciate it as it helps me understand why some are leaving Twitter and it makes a little more sense that I didn't see before. :D
15:03 I’m more and more okay with RUclips ads because in comparison with things like Hulu it’s nothing, but what’s odd is the ability to click “stop seeing this ad” on some, and the button being completely gone. Whether it’s horror, propaganda, or completely unrelated to me, it’s in RUclips’s interest to serve better ads. And creators need to get paid
Even worse when ads are Literal Episodes of shows, even WORSER when ads are FULL MOVIES. And if it's a movie I was curious about, I probably fell asleep and woke up to it half done LOL
Did you read the Delete Account policy for threads? And all Terms and Conditions? It seems to me that the EU is doing a great job protecting their territory from such a Mega Corporation
The problem with calling the zen phone a small phone is it’s barely smaller than the iPhone 14 pro. Maybe on the android size it’s considered small but it’s still inaccurate to call it a “small” phone.
If the overwhelming majority of phones made these days are more than 6 inches, then a phone that’s under 6 inches is a small phone. It’s half an inch below the average size for 2022, which doesn’t sound like much but that’s most of the difference between Apple’s “normal” and “pro max” sized displays. Half an inch is a lot of difference when you’re working with handheld displays.
@@sparky6757the *screen* is 5.9" diagonal. The body is, on the other hand, 0.2mm *taller* and 1.8mm *thicker* than the S23 which has a larger screen thanks to slimmer bezels and being a bit wider.
@@sparky6757 it's more so that all the tech RUclipsrs are just parroting the marketing as though this is some uniquely small device when both the S22 and S23 are shorter and thinner.
Wasn’t the Palm Pre the first phone with wireless charging? I was a bit young at the time but I recall hearing that it was using a proprietary wireless charging system (not Qi). I also recall that the galaxy s3 had a wireless charging back available for it, because my friend in high school actually had one! So I’m confused on the answers for trivia here
The problem I have with threads is I care more about looking at live feeds of topics then following creators and threads does not have #'s or ways to search topics at all
But it's not exactly risky to switch to since your account transfers from instagram, so there's a much larger install base rather than a new startup app
@javiazar well thread's could be a big app for the leftist and the non-political, so it does have a lot of potential. Especially considering it got more than 50mill users in just over a day.
@@javiazar I guess, but that would realistically never happen since he's invested so much into Truth Social, so I don't imagine he leaves that anytime soon
Interesting how disparagingly you talk about the EU or European open source initiatives, like Mastodon. But if you don't follow anyone from the EU, then you can't be blamed for your superficialities. Too bad. I wouldn't have thought of you that way.
You completely ignored all the points he made and also that he criticized American startups as well. It’s undeniable that mastodon has a smaller user base. It doesn’t matter if relatively more people use it in the EU.
Threads has an advantage, when people can get thousands of engagements day one it'll keep them there. I haven't seen much about politics, mostly rich content, dank memes, harmless shitposts. It's a different vibe, I haven't spent a minute correcting anyones made up bullshit so that's a W. Twitter is just such an inescapably depressing hellscape.
@@JJohnson313 the people are the app, obv I don't mean it's UI. Some toxic Twitter brains will follow to Threads but they won't have any pay2win advantage.
on the zenfone 10, I'd like to refute the common claim that small phones are good for people who want to use their phone less, the reason that I like a smaller phone is because I use my phone *so much*, I need one that's not awkward to hold when out and about and doesn't look to conspicuous when I'm on it constantly
The Asus Zenfone 10 is not a small phone. - iPhone 13 Mini (131.5 x 64.2 x 7.65 mm | 141 g) - Samsung Galaxy S23 (146.3 x 70.9 x 7.6mm | 168 g) - Asus Zenfone 10 (146.5 x 68.1 x 9.4 mm | 172 g) - iPhone 14 (146.7 x 71.5 x 7.80 mm | 172 g) Also, at 4:45, why are they talking about the Apple iPhone SE (2022) (138.4 x 67.3 x 7.3 mm | 144 g), when the iPhone 13 Mini (131.5 x 64.2 x 7.65 mm | 141 g) is significantly smaller and still being sold today?
The smallest Android "flagship" phone is the S23 (I say it that way because the S23 is not the flagship in Samsung's range, but it has great specs anyway, if not the storage and RAM vs. the Zenfone). I happen to prefer the UI approach of Asus and the and battery life of the Zenfone, so went for the 10, otherwise not much in it. The camera experience overall would be better on the S23 due to various reasons, but in some shots I prefer the Zenfone's results. Nothing beats Pixel (in Android), for my eyes though.
@@TheChiraagG What are you talking about? The S23 IS a flagship. Your flawed logic would imply that the Zenfone 10 is not flagship, because Asus ROG Phones exist.
@@JohnSmith-gb8hd semantics. Yes, it is a flagship spec phone, but in the model range of "S23" clearly the Ultra is the flagship (and if you need help with definitions Google exists). The ROG phones is a different model range. I am not denying the flagship quality, and explicitly saying why I used the nomenclature in quotation marks. Please don't get your back up over this, there's better uses of your energies.
Pretty sure the first commercially available smartphone with wireless charging was Palm Pre with their own wireless charging standard called Touchstone. You're welcome. Now I feel old.
No chapters? I wont ever forgive RUclips for removing the dislike buttons NEVER. The add on RUclips is out of control, down right annoying. RUclips should let premium subscribers see the dislike button. I can't stress this enough. Only being able to see the positive is ridiculous. In my opinion bye bye Twitter, hello Threads.
Maybe I’m out of the loop, but I have never understood the default Reddit app hate. I just have never experienced anything that can make me understand why people NEED a secondary app (other than accessibility). But I do feel for those who have gotten used to it for years and those affected by the situation as a whole
I have threads and it’s gonna be a good app for creators just wait and see. We talk about not trusting companies with our information but they’ve always had our information. We can’t run from it. 😂
I wish it wasn't Meta who made Threads. I don't trust Zuck
The thing is that nobody worth trusting is capable of making a serious Twitter competitor
I don’t trust Zuck either but I’m already on instagram, so this feels like an extension of that. Better than both Musk and Zuck having my data. I fully expect Meta to ruin Threads when they start monetizing but we have a few years until then. When that time comes I’m sure a new competitor will arise.
Agreed
I don't trust Meta either but I trust Musk even less.
@@samueljhughes100%
My reaction to ads is either one of two things: I either don't notice the ad or (if it is too annoying) I will just pull the ripcord and leave the whole site. I happily pay to have an ad free experience on sites I use every day (YT/Spotify), but if I'm browsing Twitch and I am faced with 6 30-second ads back to back before I can even watch a second of the streamers content, I will literally just close the website and go watch YT or something. Not worth my time.
As a former Twitch enthusiast, it's the only reason I purchased Twitch Turbo: I essentially Lived on the site so having ads gone was mandatory. And it sucks too because some channels had ads disabled Only If I subbed to them so it kinda left me getting gifted subs rather than supporting them myself.
I used to pay for yt premium for 2yrs then google said hi u have to use credit card from the same county currency ur using , so I simply can’t pay for premium because I’m from a country where premium is not available and I don’t have credit from another country so WTF GOOGLE !
@@williamhalstediqJust about every company does that for licensing/copywrite in YT/YT Music has region specific music and videos that are verified by address and location of payment currency
There’s many websites that are just unusable without Adblock, it’s really too bad.
@@psicosis4 yep I noticed that when I use spotify,firstspotify did not exist in my country like a year ago and when it did , there is no podcasts, audiobooks, even some of the music aren't available. It sucks.
Threads discussion starts at 37:10
bless you
Thank youuuu
Thx
Doing the Lords work.
Thanks
You guys should definitely add a wider angle of the three of you for the podcast in the future. There are a lot of moments where Marques and one of the other two are playing off each other and I feel that missing in those moments.
Yah that would be a banger addition
The tweet limit caused an actual problem for the Chicago NASCAR race because the organizers were only communicating through Twitter during the rain delays.
Who would’ve thought?
NASCAR being dumb 😂
@@thetechrealistoutside of that one day, it would've been fine. Musk didn't offer any warning.
Sounds like people using a platform for something it wasn't meant to do. 🤷♂️
Data scraping prob by Zuckerberg was the reason for limits
you'd think professionals have resilient and robust forms of communication... ig convenience and cost were too compelling tho
This is such a great opportunity for MySpace to come back into fashion
Honestly not a crazy idea ppl love nostalgia and the 2000s is back in fashion
Does Justin Timberlake still own part of MySpace or did he sell his stake?
Anyone else remember simping for scene girls on myspace 😂😂
37:10 Start of Threads conversation
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Meta tried to kill RUclips with igtv, they tried to kill Snapchat with slingshot, they tried to kill TikTok with reels. Will threads be different? I don’t think so, i think it’s just initial hype, like mixer and probably like kick.
The main difference is that all those competing services were all doing well and had users actually liked them. Fb/meta had an uphill climb to grab marketshare.
Twitter is falling apart and it's users are actively looking for alternatives.
Threads is the low effort, "oh, I already have instagram" easy option for many folks.
@@huangnator How exactly is Twitter falling apart?
@@elck3
Lost half it's value in a few months.
Chased away ad venue. Now down 40%
Tells no one they are rate limiting people until complaints come in.
Etc.
@@elck3have you been on twitter lately? The algorithm now pushes verified accounts to the top of everything so before I see most of the tweets and replies I want to read I have to sift through a bunch of Elon fanboys and MAGA nuts to get there. That’s what killed it for me
@@theobservarator6424Meanwhile, once you connect to Threads, you can't delete it without deleting your Instagram, also, your private data will be sold to the highest bidder (you know, Mark loves your private data), Threads censors any dissenting voices that goes against their narrative, it doesn't offer free speech, You truly trust Zuckerborg?? Really😂😂😂
As a part of gen z, I'm seeing a lot of my friends (myself included) jump onto the threads train that never previously used Twitter- I wonder if this is a trend that's gonna be noticeable.
I've seen the same thing!
Gen z is so retarded, just does whatever is popular in the moment. No actual thought process.
Threads is alot less toxic than Twitter so far.
Only in the US. Other people in other part of the world, even their Gen Z, think that it's a trash. Only good for influencers, not for users.
Nothing will kill Twitter, PERIOD.
True true
Andrew correcting himself of how bad the Reddit app is was properly hilarious.
I'm missing Sync Pro a lot. Fantastic app.
I hate that these ad conversations don’t acknowledge the privacy impact.
Back in the day our tvs weren’t cataloging every piece of our existence as we watched a made for tv ad.
I’m going to try it, I’m sick of Elon.
I'm never going to try it. I'm sick of Zuckerberg.
@@javiazarha exactly. People saying this like one is better than the other.
@@LoosetweezersI think nowadays a lot of people would pick Zuck over elon, especially considering that instagram already got everyone's data so threads ain't gonna do much and the people that care about data privacy would rather have 1 billionaire have it instead of 2
people seem to forget why they stop using Facebook.
but go ahead. jist know u can't delete thread without your instagram😂
@@javiazarand thr info collection.. people forgot why they stopped using fb.😂
I think RUclips should allow creators to insert their own sponsored ads without them having to be baked into the video. This would allow sponsored videos to be skipped for premium users and allow creators to have relevant channel sponsors (so you're not watching an old video about a giveaway that happened 5 years ago).
💯💯💯 how many youtubers I supported on Patreon that had to upload ad-free videos or podcasts there and I seldom took advantage of it cuz I just watched their stuff on RUclips where I still get their baked in ads despite having RUclips Premium..
That's a genius idea actually
This is A GREAT idea
Thats a terrible idea. RUclips wouldn't make any money
@@Random_dud31 presumably RUclips would still run their own pre-roll or mid roll ads that have the 45/55 cut or they would take a cut of the sponsored ad segments.
Essentially this would give premium users the opportunity to skip a video sponsor and allow creators to replace a sponsor in a single video with a channel sponsor that way that way the sponsor spots are more relevant.
I think it would be great if Elon and Mark had an MMA match and the loser has to shut down their "twitter" platform.
I dont their investors would like that lol
Feel like Elon would be egotistical enough to say Yes to that
I'm not mad at that but they could also option 'One way ticket to Mars' for the loser
I’d love to see zuck knock elon the f**k out!
Not used to having a social media not know what I want to see. 80% of the Threads I see are from people I’ve never interacted with before
run. don't use social media
I think we should all take some time away from social media
He comments on RUclips
As we are watching RUclips lol
@@EthanBeer6 Haha I see the irony but to me, RUclips is more TV than social media. I use this platform way differently than I’d use Facebook or Twitter if that makes sense.
The part that confused me about Threads is the lack of #hashtag and trending. The current search system only shows accounts, not the "topic". I think the words and conversation should still be priority.
@@Nathan-jc3nc copied you mean?😅 Definitely! It's just weird that they didn't start with the most basic of functions on the get go.
Congrats David 🎉❤❤
Do we really want to give meta ANOTHER chance to turn a good social media into Facebook? Instagram has a rate limit and as someone who spends all his off time on their conversing with people i get capped on a regular basis.
You can tell this was recorded before Threads dropped because they didn't drop everything and talk about that first. Because since it went live, EVERYTHING has been about Threads.
Early internet ads were also terrible. They would take up 10-25% of the entire page. And on a 28k or 56k modem, loading a ad that covers that much of your screen just dumps your entire experience. Then the ads with pop ups got rediculous - like 4-5 pop ups, each with music. Early ads were spam. Google really evolved that space to where they work and its more of a cooperative relationship. I used netscape back in the day and 15%+ of your brower was permenent rotating ads, it was obnoxious.
28k, rural country bumpkin gang 🫡
Zenfone 10 has the same dimensions as the base s23 which has a 6.1" screen which should make s23 the best compact phone with Sgen2
Wasn’t the palm pre the first smartphone with wireless charging?
It didn't come with out if the box though, you had to buy the special back cover.
@@Call_Me_David- They didn't preface it as built in.
Beat me to it, SOB. Laugh. Shout out to the old mobile nerds
The Palm Pre 2 had the feature out of the box in 2011. The Lumia 920 was launched a year later.
Came here to say that as well, The Palm Pre deserved better and was way ahead of the industry ok release
Feels like Meta is building to a WeChat competitor.
What’s WeChat?
@@firerainnzz app in China that is kinda like WhatsApp but it also does everything any Meta app does. You can do almost anything on it really. Searching it on here would help explain it more as it’s not that easy to describe in a message.
@@firerainnzzIt's China's "everything app", or "super-app", which acts as a platform for communications, payments, news, gaming, videos, etc.
@@sgn4354We'll see if Musk can pull it off. I think Twitter will end in bankruptcy unless Musk sells a lot more TSLA shares to bankroll it
@@firerainnzzchat is basically Twitter+FB+Whatsapp+Venmo... more. Lol. Kinda awesome, but 🇨🇳 government monitored
I have this issue with Threats in the perspective of an artist. If you’re part of the artist community, you will know that the algorithm is just straight out crap where it pushes only reels, even a single image reel, more than their posts themselves, and that the posts have a really hard time reaching your own audience, where sometimes it will be less than 10% of your followers that even see it, much less interact with it, which is natural. Plus, the feed isn’t natural, it’s based on this algorithm, and you can’t change that like in Twitter. Also the censorship in Instagram was much worse than in Twitter and RUclips, and that’s already a low standard. It was such a great platform before the zucchini bought it and it has just gotten worse and worse since 2020. Let’s say Threats is great right now. Who says it won’t just turn into Instagram 2.0?!
isn't zenfone the same size as a regular iphone or galaxy s23?
I think it's more similar to regular s series than s10e.
It’s just as tall as those phones but 3 millimeters less wide.
s23 and iphone14 are a little bit larger, 6.1 inches
but i think any phone goes smaller than 5.9 would be too difficult to properly use
I'm surprised you didn't mention that Threads will have ActivityPub support after launch, for those out of the loop that means it will be cross compatible with Mastodon as well as Tumblr when they also implement it. Imo this largely solves the lack of people problem from Mastodon, you'll be able to follow threads accounts from your Masto account and vice versa so you won't have to use Threads if you don't want
Great discussions this episode tho!
Really agree with this one also BlueSky
Its decentralized! This is the biggest anti-Meta and most exciting aspect of Threads. I am frustrated that this was not part of the discussion.
@@TommyNimbin it’s funny for him to totally dismiss the technology.
But they did mention that.
@@TommyNimbin Listen again. They literally talked about it and called it a PR move.
s23 smaller?
"twitter killer" is a slight exaggeration 😬
it just seems these people want to be in echo chambers and are really addicted to social media.
The clause of them deleting your IG if you delete your Threads account is like a hostage situation....and the insane privacy policy. Like making a deal with the devil...and holding a sign "hey please spy on me 24/7". It makes Facebook and Instagram look like privacy advocates.
is the s23 a small phone? because the s23 and the zenfone 10 are the literal same size. I guess yes, now :)
People have forgotten what a small phone is lol. 6inches is not small.
They are the same height but the the s23 is 3 mm wider.
@@hastyscorpion I double checked on phonearena’s size comparison - the s23 is actually .01 inch smaller in length and thickness (but yes, actually .11 inches wider). This correlates with the mm changes. … I dunno though. The distinction seems pretty arbitrary …
But I’m typing this response on my 13 mini, so. It just feels like at a point “small” no longer matters if a phone is that big.
Mastodon is not down all the time... If it is for you, then you need to switch instances and move to a better one.
The problem with the threads “people” is it’s largely an audience that use ig and not twitter. Therefore it’s people using it like ig stories or posts.
The use case by its audience is still a little misunderstood
Yes, influencers are only using it to talk or engage with their followers, theres no real time conversation
But it doesn't literally need to be Twitter 2.0 . The usage of it can be decided by the users. I don't think it needs to fill the entire same purpose
@@KCisScreaming thats true, but the thing is if what is becoming is enough to get people engage for a long time, after the hype
This channel has a separate hate for Windows Phone 😂. In 2012, smartphones looked horrible. Lumia 920 was sucha great design.
4:42 ZenFone 10 is not "definitively" the smallest 8 Gen 2 phone. The S23 is 0.2mm shorter and is 1.8mm thinner. The S23 is closer in size to the S10e than the ZenFone is, being 4.1mm taller vs. 4.3mm taller for the ZenFone.
As some others have pointed out, the Palm Pre is the first smartphone with wireless charging as a possibility. The technicalities about it requiring a separate back don't eliminate it from the question and the charging ability was included later anyway. The question has to be very specific for it to be the Nokia 920.
The Palm Pre 2 had the feature built in without needing to replace the back cover like the first one. It launched a year ahead of the 920 so I think the answer was wrong no matter what.
Palm was my gut reaction to that question. But was it Qi charging? I think they mean Qi with wireless.
@@ProfWereW I get what you’re saying, but they didn’t specify that in the question.
I owned the Nokia Lumia 920, best smartphone I ever owned.
First with wireless charging, also first with image stabilization. And yes, it was a real smartphone, way better than any Android phone at that time.
I miss windows phone.
Threads is a conversation platform where u get banned for having a conversation.
And Twitter is a platform where you get banned for saying cisgender
Can someone tell me why we need yet another social media app????
Thanks to Andrew for bringing this point to light, but just some specifics (L x W measurements in mm):
131.5 x 64.2 - iPhone 13 mini
146.5 x 68.1 - ZenFone 9 & 10
146.7 x 71.5 - iPhone 14
But now the interesting part… the ZenFone is thicker than iPhone, so its total volume is actually 10.97-14.63% (for the zf9-zf10) BIGGER than the iPhone 14 (not a mini).
Even the iPhone 14 Pro is a significantly smaller phone than either ZenFone by volume.
Still like it though, I’m just very sad a true mini form factor is dead, and I probably would’ve switched to ZF if it was actually iPhone mini sized, but I’m sticking with my 13 mini
The iPhone 13 Mini (131.5 x 64.2) is also significantly smaller than the current iPhone SE (138.4 x 67.3).
True. I’m hoping in a year or 2 Apple resurrects the mini as an SE 3
I have a mini and I think this will last me 3 more years so I wouldn’t jump to upgrading it anyway right now just hope that somehow apple releases a new mini in 2 years
I never understand what makes Twitter so interesting for people like MKBHD or anyone else. at around 39:00 he said Twitter has DMs, image sharing, etc. well, FB has all of that too. politicians, celebrities, social media personalities, they are all on FB too
You guys have convinced me to get the family plan for RUclips!
0:10 : Is Asus's only 2 OS updates rather than 4 or 5 not a problem? For long term use, I feel it's a problem
Started as a fan of the MKBHD channel only, but i've become glued to these full podcasts recently. And at an hour minimum that means a lot.
Same
Same...
It's perfect for background at work when doing more repetitive work. Same with ColdFusion's Through the Web podcast. I can listen to my favorite creators for a long period of time, whereas I can't view the main channel vids because I would be glued them and couldn't focus enough on the task at hand :)
Very calming I love these guys.
Brave browser never has that issue. Brave browser gets rid of as 100% on the browser and they’re three times faster browser and they were privacy browser and I really like their browser. And the browser let you have a choice if you don’t want ads on RUclips, they won’t give your ads 100% but if you want ads on the Brave browser app they will give it to you 100% you just have to turn a toggle off you don’t want ads at all that won’t be ads on RUclips 100% but if you want and then they can give it to you if you want it if you turn the toggle off 100% I love brave browser.
The answer to the first question is wrong. The Palm Pre supported wireless charging back in 2009. It was one of the big selling points of the Palm Pre.
I stopped expecting facts from Waveform like a year ago
It didn't come with it out of the box though.
@@Call_Me_David what do you mean? The wireless charging back was included with the phone? Yeah the wireless charger was sold separately but that’s always been the case?
@@zaclaramay When I bought it, it didn't come with the wireless charging back. You had to buy a kit that had the replacement back and the charging base.
From Wikipedia:
"The Touchstone Charger requires a compatible back cover, which was sold separately from the Pre but included in subsequent models."
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Pre
@@Call_Me_David yup I forgot that it was included with my Palm Pre Plus but not the first Sprint version. but that doesn’t change the point that it’s still the first smartphone to include wireless charging?
Thread now will track and see everything on your phone. It's in the agreement you accepted without reading. Better not have any bad OR NASTY info on your phone or computer, Threads can collect data such as a user's location, their personal information, financial information, health and fitness, messages, photos and videos, files and documents, calendar events, and more because nothing is for free
Would love some timestamps on this video!
I haven't watched this, only read the title because I can't watch another chicken little twitter is failing video. Seriously do you realize how ridiculous this is to make the same video over and over? Is Twitter perfect, no, but Andrew has been begging for it to fail since Elon bought it and its just exhausting, All the while it keeps chugging along proving the skeptics wrong time and time again. This latest joke of a competition is just that, a joke. It is nothing more than a continued data farm by one of the top two data farming companies in the world. Will threads fail as fast as every other "twitter killer" probably not, because meta is far better at manipulating their clients than most, but it will never become "new twitter." It will only ever be, just another failed attempt to kill twitter
Just finished listening to this on Spotify and I realized, I've literally listened to each and every episode without fail 😅😅
Imagine if you could leave the comment in the spotify app. And it would link it all together
Ikr that would honestly be great
Episode sponsored by a 10 min Zenfone spot? 🤔 Thicker than JIF.
I have avoided having to make a Twitter account for more than 15 years. Zuck is not gonna get me now 😂😂
Twitter is fun bro you won’t regret it
i got bann on twitter so i using threads
Twitter is better than Threads.
zenfone 10 still not available in USA
Threads is a facebook, instagram, WhatsApp killer more than a Twitter killer...
Not really
MKBHD tried Meta's Quest Pro before release with the Zucc, definitely no ulterior motive 💀😭
If Threads and Tumblr actually join the Fediverse, then the threat of one all powerful company owning social media is greatly reduced. You can just migrate yourself and your followers to another instance if Meta gets weird.
Lol Tumblr
That's a nice joke
@@xXVibrantSnowXx Some people like it 🤷♂️.
Threads and meta suck. Its no Twitter competitor. Its just a lazy app that allows existing insta users to use it. Thats the only reason it has active users
I hope all of meta crashes and goes bankrupt. But sadly its too impt for that to happen. And the govt loves zuck, he lets them access all of his consumers afterall.
I find it funny how everyone cared so much about privacy, but as soon as they had to give it up to hate on what was popular to hate on (Twitter), they just sold their privacy back to Meta without hesitation. Really goes to show that most of what everyone does on social media is nothing more than trying to do what's popular rather than to actually do what's right.
Ok
Yep war against the freedom hating Elon requires some sacrifices.
Just because something is widely hated, doesn’t mean it’s suddenly hated because it’s hated. Elon’s mishandling of Twitter quickly grew into a staggeringly long list. From his public harassment of his own employees to his sharing of flagrantly transphobic and homophobic content - it’s become clear to anyone paying attention that Twitter is a wildly toxic place.
Thread’s popularity is a testament to just how shitty of a person Elon is. He managed to outshit Zuckerberg. That took dedication.
@@gfyGoogle Bravo👏 spot on.
@@gfyGoogle I can see that, honestly! I have seen the complaints about Twitter. Although, I just do find it weird that suddenly privacy doesn't matter anymore just to "stick it" to one guy. Basically, sacrificing a human right and enslaving your data to Meta which has been the exact opposite of what people have wanted in the past few years.
I just don't see how undoing all that work to get people away from Meta can be helpful overall regardless of the reason. It's like it was all meant for show and not actually because anyone cared about privacy, and the big, objectively evil, corporation that is Meta is now winning again.
However, thank you for explaining that point! Although I don't really understand fully to agree, I do appreciate it as it helps me understand why some are leaving Twitter and it makes a little more sense that I didn't see before. :D
You guys should invite 20syl on the channel... yk.. just for fun...
Came for the threads, stayed for trivia
The palm pre was the first phone with wireless charging. It came out in 2009
Facts. He didn't preface it as out of the box capable which Marques answer of S2 would have predated the S6 as well.
Oh no, I was going to get points on that one! The Palm Pre and the Touch Stone! Had wireless charging and released in 2009!!
David's Arc Browser analogies are on point. Cheers to productivity and focus!
How is there no "Thread" counter. Such a lovely missed opportunity :'(
Threads has already started censoring content 🙁
sad, what did they censor
@@ΒύρωναςΛαδιάςidk what he's referring to but most of it is just NSFW
Of course they did. Did you actually expect them not to? It’s instagram.
So the idea is let's replicate a platform that sucks because of a billionaire pissing contest?
"I'm not used to something this small" Damn. Andrew just flexed on all of us 💀
That's what she said.
The Palm Pre had wireless charging and came out in 2009, before the Nokia 920
15:03 I’m more and more okay with RUclips ads because in comparison with things like Hulu it’s nothing, but what’s odd is the ability to click “stop seeing this ad” on some, and the button being completely gone. Whether it’s horror, propaganda, or completely unrelated to me, it’s in RUclips’s interest to serve better ads. And creators need to get paid
If the ads pops up like banner under video Im okay with it, or we could skipp the ads, but 30s ada 2x is bad, I hate it so much
Even worse when ads are Literal Episodes of shows, even WORSER when ads are FULL MOVIES. And if it's a movie I was curious about, I probably fell asleep and woke up to it half done LOL
@@RivandaBakhtiar Wait until you realize that banner ads make barely any money and does not produce enough cash flow to even just sustain RUclips.
No EU access for Threads means I just cannot bring myself to use it. That's where many of my favorite people are.
Did you read the Delete Account policy for threads? And all Terms and Conditions? It seems to me that the EU is doing a great job protecting their territory from such a Mega Corporation
The problem with calling the zen phone a small phone is it’s barely smaller than the iPhone 14 pro. Maybe on the android size it’s considered small but it’s still inaccurate to call it a “small” phone.
If the overwhelming majority of phones made these days are more than 6 inches, then a phone that’s under 6 inches is a small phone. It’s half an inch below the average size for 2022, which doesn’t sound like much but that’s most of the difference between Apple’s “normal” and “pro max” sized displays. Half an inch is a lot of difference when you’re working with handheld displays.
its around 3.5mm less wide which is about the difference between you're iPhone and an s21 ultra which is quite a big phone not just in height.
@@sparky6757the *screen* is 5.9" diagonal. The body is, on the other hand, 0.2mm *taller* and 1.8mm *thicker* than the S23 which has a larger screen thanks to slimmer bezels and being a bit wider.
@@nickthaskater That’s pretty cool, love when a product markets itself in a way that’s technically true but deceptive
@@sparky6757 it's more so that all the tech RUclipsrs are just parroting the marketing as though this is some uniquely small device when both the S22 and S23 are shorter and thinner.
Wasn’t the Palm Pre the first phone with wireless charging? I was a bit young at the time but I recall hearing that it was using a proprietary wireless charging system (not Qi). I also recall that the galaxy s3 had a wireless charging back available for it, because my friend in high school actually had one! So I’m confused on the answers for trivia here
Now we need a RUclips killer with the dislike button
Rumble exists.
The problem I have with threads is I care more about looking at live feeds of topics then following creators and threads does not have #'s or ways to search topics at all
Honestly Twitter's biggest power is it users. Like the most famous guys over there are not going to try a new app so soon!
But it's not exactly risky to switch to since your account transfers from instagram, so there's a much larger install base rather than a new startup app
All Trump has to do is tweet "I'm back" and this new threads experiment is over in half a second.
@javiazar well thread's could be a big app for the leftist and the non-political, so it does have a lot of potential.
Especially considering it got more than 50mill users in just over a day.
It's bigger power is that it's basically unrated. Videos, pictures and opinions that would all be removed from IG/Meta
@@javiazar I guess, but that would realistically never happen since he's invested so much into Truth Social, so I don't imagine he leaves that anytime soon
Interesting how disparagingly you talk about the EU or European open source initiatives, like Mastodon. But if you don't follow anyone from the EU, then you can't be blamed for your superficialities. Too bad. I wouldn't have thought of you that way.
You completely ignored all the points he made and also that he criticized American startups as well. It’s undeniable that mastodon has a smaller user base. It doesn’t matter if relatively more people use it in the EU.
@@hastyscorpion That wasn't my point.
Threads has an advantage, when people can get thousands of engagements day one it'll keep them there. I haven't seen much about politics, mostly rich content, dank memes, harmless shitposts. It's a different vibe, I haven't spent a minute correcting anyones made up bullshit so that's a W. Twitter is just such an inescapably depressing hellscape.
It the same people. The app isn’t depressing. It’s the people. The people will just go somewhere else and do the same thing.
@@JJohnson313 the people are the app, obv I don't mean it's UI. Some toxic Twitter brains will follow to Threads but they won't have any pay2win advantage.
@@ComboBreakerHD For now, I'd like to believe. But first they need to get it up and running in the EU lol
I heard ou can’t leave Thread without also losing your instagram, yes or no?
Threads has been nice so far❤
Until they censor or black your content
@Miklooo774 yup. jist like Facebook. as long ad u have thrbright politics. it's not a toensquare.
on the zenfone 10, I'd like to refute the common claim that small phones are good for people who want to use their phone less, the reason that I like a smaller phone is because I use my phone *so much*, I need one that's not awkward to hold when out and about and doesn't look to conspicuous when I'm on it constantly
This
500 character limit, up to 10 images per post, 5 min max duration video on Threads
Zack 1 - 0 Elon
who is zack?😂
@@jaydennfs zuck's human copy
How much you guys getting paid to push Zenfone so hard lol
The Asus Zenfone 10 is not a small phone.
- iPhone 13 Mini (131.5 x 64.2 x 7.65 mm | 141 g)
- Samsung Galaxy S23 (146.3 x 70.9 x 7.6mm | 168 g)
- Asus Zenfone 10 (146.5 x 68.1 x 9.4 mm | 172 g)
- iPhone 14 (146.7 x 71.5 x 7.80 mm | 172 g)
Also, at 4:45, why are they talking about the Apple iPhone SE (2022) (138.4 x 67.3 x 7.3 mm | 144 g), when the iPhone 13 Mini (131.5 x 64.2 x 7.65 mm | 141 g) is significantly smaller and still being sold today?
The smallest Android "flagship" phone is the S23 (I say it that way because the S23 is not the flagship in Samsung's range, but it has great specs anyway, if not the storage and RAM vs. the Zenfone). I happen to prefer the UI approach of Asus and the and battery life of the Zenfone, so went for the 10, otherwise not much in it. The camera experience overall would be better on the S23 due to various reasons, but in some shots I prefer the Zenfone's results. Nothing beats Pixel (in Android), for my eyes though.
@@TheChiraagG What are you talking about? The S23 IS a flagship. Your flawed logic would imply that the Zenfone 10 is not flagship, because Asus ROG Phones exist.
@@JohnSmith-gb8hd semantics. Yes, it is a flagship spec phone, but in the model range of "S23" clearly the Ultra is the flagship (and if you need help with definitions Google exists). The ROG phones is a different model range. I am not denying the flagship quality, and explicitly saying why I used the nomenclature in quotation marks. Please don't get your back up over this, there's better uses of your energies.
To bad nudity isn't allowed on threads. Alot of artist will have to go elsewhere
Threads is just like twitter but without elon simps, crypto scams or the trans doomers
So basically whatever Hillary Clinton’s camp see fit. Great!
And the maga clowns etc, they can have twitter lol
@@freedom_post lol
@HShango you do know other countires uses twotter right. Japan being 2nd largest in thebworld
Pretty sure the first commercially available smartphone with wireless charging was Palm Pre with their own wireless charging standard called Touchstone. You're welcome. Now I feel old.
Yes!!!! I'm glad I'm not the only one who is ready to fight over this
I really like Threads, twitter is crap
Elon is doing the best thing a billionaire has done for the world, destroying twitter.
No chapters?
I wont ever forgive RUclips for removing the dislike buttons NEVER.
The add on RUclips is out of control, down right annoying.
RUclips should let premium subscribers see the dislike button. I can't stress this enough. Only being able to see the positive is ridiculous.
In my opinion bye bye Twitter, hello Threads.
best compact phone is s23 base
Maybe I’m out of the loop, but I have never understood the default Reddit app hate. I just have never experienced anything that can make me understand why people NEED a secondary app (other than accessibility). But I do feel for those who have gotten used to it for years and those affected by the situation as a whole
I don't why should i use Threads when I can do anything threads do on facebook?
exactly.
I have threads and it’s gonna be a good app for creators just wait and see. We talk about not trusting companies with our information but they’ve always had our information. We can’t run from it. 😂
They have been taking ever since we all signed their TOS
but some are worse than others. And Meta is the worst of the worst
@@BuriedDutchman yeah but I would rather meta than Elon
@@Spidey1933 why?
@@Spidey1933
Elon wants free speech
Zuck wants free data
4:37 The S23 is a flagship phone and they are the same size
Threads will fail. Honestly, it’s getting massive hype but no one will be using it in a few months. Nothing will replace twitter
we’ll see
Zuckerberg wants to know your location
@@sgn4354 for sure. People who still use Facebook def will “disagree” w my comment 😝
My mind when 😮😮 David said $3.8 per person for RUclips premium. When I am paying less than $2.5 for entire family for YT premium in India 😅.
Threads definitely has huge potential to beat out twitter, and honestly I'm rooting for it
I hope not. I'm rooting against it.
I'll never root for censorship.
By being the copycat social media site. It's not even subtle I;
Wasn’t it the Palm Pre? Not sure that counts as a smart phone though