3:05 lol, FM being actually PM in so many cases absolutely did my head in when i was a teenager. i heard that looping kick get faster and faster until it was a bass tone in röyksopp's vision one & figured all right, so to replicate that i'll take a saw a few octaves down and feed it into a sine, imagine my disappointment when all i heard was an out-of-tune sine with some little clicks sprinkled in. when you know it's phase modulation going on, it makes sense -- PM is (loosely speaking) equivalent to FM by the *derivative* of the modulator, which, in the case of a perfect digital saw, is a constant. donks aside, if anyone is looking for "proper", intuitive FM results to play with, the free & open source surge has you covered. it's just A into B, but A and B can come from several different engines incl. VA, generic wavetables, or even a baby 3-operator OPL-style setup, so there are weeks worth of sound design sessions to be had from just the FM mode.
that sound is probably hard sync. i doubt it's FM/PM like(it's defo not a looping kick like i've seen a few people claim). the formants don't move as it moves around in pitch and the grind is always the same. there's no way to do that with FM/PM without having some kind of oscillator slaved to another. ok, i guess you can use saw wave carriers, but that pretty much is hard sync and you'll still have the formants move around with the pitch. listen to the part when they start playing the melody later with the same patch. that gives it away that it is hard sync
@@johndozesoph4136 well yeah i found out later the kicks & bass were diff. sounds, but a decade and a half ago "loopy kick hehe" seemed like a sensible enough starting point
In Operator you can adjust the oscilator phase ; so you can not only invert the waveform but also get all the phases in between , can dramatically affect the outcome ...
@@OwenTheGeek yep. not necessary like, but it makes more intuitive sense if you use a saw wave/ ramp as waveform operator used to shift the phase point in the waveform .as it's basically acting like a phase accumulator in modular software like MAX, Reaktor, PD etc
This is a very good and inspiring video! After watching it I decided that I definitely need to make a real Donk Bass, although it is not even my favorite sound. 😆
Great video, you seem to have got your head around FM pretty well, any idea how to achieve this on the KORG Volca FM2, I know it's got a sick donk in there somewhere! 😀
I thought the Volca FM 2 only has sine wave operators? If that's true then I'm sorry but it's not gonna be getting Klubbheads donks... But you'd definitely be able to get close to the initial oldskool FM bass sounds I showed in the video
@OwenTheGeek yeah its the same as the DX7, its got some pretty good presets but want to get into FM much so I figure learning donks and reeses is a good place to start, your videos are great! Keep up the good work
PUT A DONK ON IT!!!!!!!!! I love the shout out to the Plogue Chipsynths, those are awesome! I made demo tracks for both Chipsynth MD and OPS7, such good FM synths
Brilliant. I think they're exceptional in the sense that they feel like real synths, sonically. Most plugin synths just have this boring plugin aesthetic (sonically), but the Chipsynths seem to exude this extra dimension.
@@OwenTheGeek probably because winter here in Montreal makes us want to stay inside at all costs, so David, the developer really takes the time to craft these incredible plugins. I especially love the song player in Chipsynth MD
Hmmm, yeah. I'm sure the winters help. I think there's more going on with David, though. He's a bit of an unusual character. Unmatched dedication to his craft.
You know what you should follow up with! The Tribal Church stab. No Donk track is complete with out some of those super sharp stabs thrown in as a contrast!
I was just thinking that I need some Donk bass in my production and here You are! Thank You YT algorithms ;) PS: wonder if I can make that sound on Digitone?
Woa, you know me well... I did do a Ron Wells style donk, but ended up editing it out cos the video was gonna be 3 hours long and take 9 years to release. 💀💀💀 However, we can always come back to the Basement donk in future. Maybe even tomorrow...
"Yeah, yeah it's sick that, yeah that's good. Wait hold on a minute, pull it up, stop. You know what you wanna do with that right, You wanna put a bangin' donk on it!". - Blackout Crew
Bit slower explanation for the umbro tracksuit types mate wont even understand that technilogical stuff haha! just say you got a pirated donk bass pack for 5 quid on ya bandcamp (not naming who did this) and call it a day, get me bruv? In all seriousness this is brilliant thank you mate, always wanted to donk it out well propa n ard
This video answered my question of why FM in one plugin (ex fm8 or serum) sounded different in another plugin even if it appeared you were doing the same thing. Thanks for that
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3:05 lol, FM being actually PM in so many cases absolutely did my head in when i was a teenager. i heard that looping kick get faster and faster until it was a bass tone in röyksopp's vision one & figured all right, so to replicate that i'll take a saw a few octaves down and feed it into a sine, imagine my disappointment when all i heard was an out-of-tune sine with some little clicks sprinkled in. when you know it's phase modulation going on, it makes sense -- PM is (loosely speaking) equivalent to FM by the *derivative* of the modulator, which, in the case of a perfect digital saw, is a constant. donks aside, if anyone is looking for "proper", intuitive FM results to play with, the free & open source surge has you covered. it's just A into B, but A and B can come from several different engines incl. VA, generic wavetables, or even a baby 3-operator OPL-style setup, so there are weeks worth of sound design sessions to be had from just the FM mode.
Yeah, Surge is one of the greatest freebie synths for sure. Good shout! 🙌
that sound is probably hard sync. i doubt it's FM/PM like(it's defo not a looping kick like i've seen a few people claim). the formants don't move as it moves around in pitch and the grind is always the same. there's no way to do that with FM/PM without having some kind of oscillator slaved to another. ok, i guess you can use saw wave carriers, but that pretty much is hard sync and you'll still have the formants move around with the pitch. listen to the part when they start playing the melody later with the same patch. that gives it away that it is hard sync
@@johndozesoph4136 well yeah i found out later the kicks & bass were diff. sounds, but a decade and a half ago "loopy kick hehe" seemed like a sensible enough starting point
Insanely underrated channel. So much knowledge in one vid.
@@austint19 stick around 👌
Looking forward to this!
Instant subscribe within the first few seconds! I always love finding gems like this... happy Friday!
Welcome aboard 👍
Love a good donk. That was my favorite sound for years. Great vid Owen :)
I dunno if that's Jon or Jay posting, but HI either way. Yeah, it's suuuch a great sound! 😍😍
In Operator you can adjust the oscilator phase ; so you can not only invert the waveform but also get all the phases in between , can dramatically affect the outcome ...
Yeah, FM8 can do that too if you know what you're doing. I just didn't want to overcomplicate the video as I already had a lot to cram in
Every FM Matrix VST can do this if it allows for 0 ratio operators with negative hz offset amounts
@@johndozesoph4136 Exactly! It makes perfect logical sense when you stop to think about it 🙌
@@OwenTheGeek yep. not necessary like, but it makes more intuitive sense if you use a saw wave/ ramp as waveform operator used to shift the phase point in the waveform .as it's basically acting like a phase accumulator in modular software like MAX, Reaktor, PD etc
A year in the waiting ❤️
Good things come to those who wait 🤷
This is a very good and inspiring video! After watching it I decided that I definitely need to make a real Donk Bass, although it is not even my favorite sound. 😆
@@klementus Excellent, glad you enjoyed it. New video dropping this weekend
he's back! again!
Looks that way! 👀
Welcome back Owen!!
Great! waiting for part 2 ;)
I'm working on it
That sine wave variant looks a lot like a sine-cubed function.
Definitely 🤓👌
He’s dropping on my birthday ❤❤❤
Many happy returns. Let's make it one to remember!!! 🥳
Great video, you seem to have got your head around FM pretty well, any idea how to achieve this on the KORG Volca FM2, I know it's got a sick donk in there somewhere! 😀
I thought the Volca FM 2 only has sine wave operators? If that's true then I'm sorry but it's not gonna be getting Klubbheads donks... But you'd definitely be able to get close to the initial oldskool FM bass sounds I showed in the video
@OwenTheGeek yeah its the same as the DX7, its got some pretty good presets but want to get into FM much so I figure learning donks and reeses is a good place to start, your videos are great! Keep up the good work
@@millenniumprincemusic ahhh man, you're gonna love the next one then 🙃 ... it'll definitely work for the Korg Volca FM 2 😉😉👍
I wonder if there is a way to make the same sound with a subtractive synth...
Meeeee tooooooo 🤔
PUT A DONK ON IT!!!!!!!!! I love the shout out to the Plogue Chipsynths, those are awesome! I made demo tracks for both Chipsynth MD and OPS7, such good FM synths
Brilliant. I think they're exceptional in the sense that they feel like real synths, sonically. Most plugin synths just have this boring plugin aesthetic (sonically), but the Chipsynths seem to exude this extra dimension.
@@OwenTheGeek probably because winter here in Montreal makes us want to stay inside at all costs, so David, the developer really takes the time to craft these incredible plugins. I especially love the song player in Chipsynth MD
Hmmm, yeah. I'm sure the winters help. I think there's more going on with David, though. He's a bit of an unusual character. Unmatched dedication to his craft.
Superb. Interesting to see how it all comes together 👏🏼
It's such a nice sound, isn't it? 🎍
Love ur channel mate just getting started with prod and you’ve got all the sounds im tryna make
Great taste! 😜
I just mostly sample stuff as that’s why I enjoy but this is fascinating stuff mate.❤
welcome back, king!
Thank you, thank you 🙌
Oh, I've been waiting for this so hard, finally here!!!🎉🎉🎉
Couldn't hold it in any longer!
brother doing gods work
thanks for spreading the word of the donk
It was long overdue
Boss 👏
@@SteWillo 🙌
epic bro, could you maybe upload the FM8 patch? 🙏
Come on the Donk Q&A livestream in a bit
Great work but talk about a cliff hanger I would have liked to have seen the envelopes on that last fm8 patch just to mess around myself whens P2?
Yeah, stick around. We've plenny more donkin to do yet...
SEEEEEEEELECTAAAAAAH!!
Good to see you up and at it!
🙏
You know what you should follow up with! The Tribal Church stab. No Donk track is complete with out some of those super sharp stabs thrown in as a contrast!
Great sound but it's not on my road map
no way! i just got that halion update! thanks man
Have fun! 😁
Thank you Mr Trixx
I was just thinking that I need some Donk bass in my production and here You are! Thank You YT algorithms ;)
PS: wonder if I can make that sound on Digitone?
Yeah I've made it and TBH... it sounds better on Digitone xD
I would love to hear that! 😍
Brilliant mate 👏🏻
👏
Yes! the wait is almost over!!!
I appreciate your support, Mitch! 🙌
Amazing, thank you!
You're most welcome. Joining the donk Q&A stream later?
Stick a real quiet vocal stab with it . Noticed it a lot in 90s donks
you ever thought about doing the same tutorial on Sytrus in FL Studio ?
Yeah, of course
Wasn't expecting "the lie" what a switch up that was!
I needed a non-boring way to explain why FM8 sounds different to OPS7, etc
@@OwenTheGeek and that it was, pure edge of seat moment.
@@mitchiemasha cheers man
Hoping that this includes Ron Wells style donks also!
Woa, you know me well... I did do a Ron Wells style donk, but ended up editing it out cos the video was gonna be 3 hours long and take 9 years to release. 💀💀💀
However, we can always come back to the Basement donk in future. Maybe even tomorrow...
It's heeere!!! Hype!
I always pull through in the end..... Eventually 😉
where did you get the tx81z presets? thanks.
Can't remember, sorry
@@OwenTheGeek no worries
Internet, though
@@OwenTheGeek I've found the 4 patches and loaded them into halion 7, what was the preset called? Harp FM?
HALion reads the patch name data as "Harp...FM", yes; FM8 reads the patch name data as just "Harp..."
banger video
Appreciate it, Cereal.
"Yeah, yeah it's sick that, yeah that's good.
Wait hold on a minute, pull it up, stop.
You know what you wanna do with that right,
You wanna put a bangin' donk on it!". - Blackout Crew
Indeed, but please donk responsibly. When the fun stops, stop. Don't let the donk take over your life.
@@OwenTheGeek Too late! 😉
Somebody call the donktor!
omg omg omg omg thx so much
Enjoy it 🙏
Were you formally hattrixx??
Not formerly, eternally 😉👍
@@OwenTheGeek excellent, thought I recognised the name from your mastering way back
Bit slower explanation for the umbro tracksuit types mate wont even understand that technilogical stuff haha! just say you got a pirated donk bass pack for 5 quid on ya bandcamp (not naming who did this) and call it a day, get me bruv?
In all seriousness this is brilliant thank you mate, always wanted to donk it out well propa n ard
🙌🙏🔥
Wait, is Owen back?
Yes, hello! 👋
"Teach a gopnik to donk and....🤔 hold on. . ."Give a gopnik a Donc and.....
🙄😒Man even quoting that is hard... awesome video 😁💪🙏
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it 🙌
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Yes!!! Why don't you love damn it!! \o/
Gotta keep the 🔥
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Let’s see if there’s anything in here you’ve not showed me yet!
This video answered my question of why FM in one plugin (ex fm8 or serum) sounded different in another plugin even if it appeared you were doing the same thing. Thanks for that
Congratulations, your ears weren't deceiving you after all 🥳
"It's not donky enough!" Wait, was that Mr. Bill?
Gammer and Ravine, making Tropical Donk, legendary 🤣
@@OwenTheGeek Ravine rings a Bell
He's a hard dance DJ, got big on RUclips if I'm not mistaken
@@OwenTheGeek yep was around the 2014ishs if I rc
Sounds about right
HEEEEEYYYY! ❤
Why does your voice sound AI generated ?
Probably because I cut most of the breaths in editing. I can assure you it's all me. I'm not into that AI voice rubbish 😆
who wants £50 GBP just send me the damn preset this is long