S3 E29. Kubota turbo diesel Saturn loses some weight in an effort to make the car faster.
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- Season 3 Episode 29. it's the end of the road for the 719 cc turbo diesel Saturn. In our last Saturn experiment we put the car on a diet to see if reducing the weight helps or hurts performance.
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Leaving the hubcaps in place was brilliant. The cops would never suspect anything was awry. Well played sir, well played.
It actually helps with aerodynamics and they don’t weigh more than a few ounces. It offsets the weight penalty.
Avoiding the police is my favorite thing to do.
Oooooh shiny
@@robotcantina8957 when it comes to speed did you take into consideration the gearing ?
RIP to the Kubota diesel Saturn.
Many hours of fun.
Thanks again for letting us tag along, Jimbo.
That was certainly a fun series.
I wonder if any one Saturn in history ever saw this much screen time. The more time that marches by, the more I miss those SWs, such an honest daily. Ah well, RIP Kubota Saturn!
I realize the car is long gone by now, but you could have taken off the doors too, for approximately another 75 pounds. As any Jeep owner can tell you, you don't need no stinkin' doors!
RIP brave little saturn. On to valhalla. You will be remembered.
The Kubota Saturn is back!! It's interesting how the acceleration did not significantly change; I would have thought that it would. On a side note, that stepper motor on the rack limit screw idea is ingenious.
diesel motor. and one tenth for every 100 lbs removed is the general rule in the quarter mile.
What they lost in weight they gained in aerodynamics. Otherwise, yes it would've been faster.
or you just turn the pump way up and modulate it with your foot like my tdi was when i got it. it did get annoying being my daily though so i put the pump at more normal setting instead of like all the way up.
Aerodynamics is a very big deal already at 50mph when you only got 30-ish horsepower.
Only so much you can squeeze out before it is no longer economical to try and get mo' powah
Law a diminishing returns...this is why a few larger tweaks such as better exhaust headers and turbo can increase power much more than alot of other tweaks...if the engine can breath better and more efficiently it will develop more power
You gotta love the plastic body panels on those Saturns, they were so easy to work on 👍 there’s still guys out there fixing those things up and flipping them.
this is actually smart... its light, does not rattle, does not rust, can be plastic-welded...
Saturn was also working with one of the major paint companies, on designing colored plastic panels so no paint would be needed for repairs. Never came to the public though...
@@KARR its kinda good they never did, youve seen what happens to the colored power wheel plastic when theyre left out in the sun for 15+ years. It gets pretty ugly.
It's kinda funny though seeing holes in the plastic when they do get damaged though. 😂
Ironically, the only Sadturd I ever owned looked OK body-wise because of the plastic, like you say, but the entirety of the car beneath was rusting away!
If it had been rear-ended, the backseat occupants would have been in worse danger than the engineers intended. I junked it for that reason; I couldn't sell the car to someone else in good conscience.
After a long day of mowing the lawn, working on the wife's car, running errands, squeezing in a TINY bit of leisure time, and then finishing my day with some garage cleanup and sorting my materials and hardware from various ongoing projects as well as putting the tools back in their rightful homes, well...
...this video is what I need.
0:57 the increased boost you’re seeing with more tailpipe is because the gasses are having a harder time leaving the hot side, boost = restriction to flow. The boost will go sky high if you plug the turbine almost entirely, but it certainly won’t make power. Higher boost doesn’t make higher power, higher flow (making the engine eat more density) makes more power. 60psi of boost @450 degrees makes far less power than 55psi @85 degrees
The hammer is the right tool. Nothing says efficiency like removing glass with a hammer. 👍
This is exactly how my car looked after I left it at a train station over night
Looking forward to the fuel rack modifications.
"I'm not afraid to use the sawzall" -- Awesome
It's not your local patrolman you have to watch for. It's his seeing-eye dog.
These projects are genius.
If you drove that on the road down here in Australia the cops would pull you over INSTANTLY and probably impound it and give you hefty fines.
That part with you taking off all the body panels, that was the most satisfying video content I have seen on RUclips. It's like if the car was held together like Lego.
Good Night, Sweet Saturn, And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest.
The late '90 early '00 VW TDI's (pre unit injector/PD) and others, their injection pumps did a similar thing to what you are planning. They were electronicaly adjusted (timing advance and fuel trim) mechanicaly driven rotary injection pumps.
Good old VP37. Got one on a 5 cyl. TDI in my (t)rusty old van.
@@0123-v1o Yup thats the one. I loved my T4 Velle LWB . Ran it on used veg oil - 160kph at -25 C on the Munich ring road, never missed a beat. Put 80K miles on it in 3 years!
The Mitsubishi L200 also had this configuration with the 4d56 engine
I can't wait to see the next Kubota powered vehicle. Awesome video.
Really stepping up production. Two camera views and a camera person !!!!
Well, the Saturn coupe is now one for the ages. Go well into the good night old girl, you've earned it.
With each project I see, I always seem to fall in love with each car as it's modified. I keep cheering for these underpowered underdogs and I am always sad when their development is done. Does this make me crazy? ;-)
This saturn project was the best performing car we have built to date. We started with a car that had seen better days and learned a lot. The next build will result in an even better car.
I think the the kubota engine was the best engine so far and the insight was the best car in my opinion. What a nice combo that would be
That's the best way I've ever seen to make a Saturn look cool. Beats the crap out of brush painted racing stripes and pieces of an aluminum step ladder on back for a rear spoiler. 🤣🤣Which we see way too much of here in North Georgia.
The best part of working on a car project is taking it apart. :-)
RIP Saturn, you will be missed.
RIP Saturn...you served the content Gods well!
Love it!
Keep em coming!!!!
RIP Saturn..... You inspired so many with your rolling coal...
Robot Cantina is always a highlight of my Sunday. Going back to work tomorrow after a week off, thanks for making the last night a little less depressing.
So mad I have to go work on a car but I'll be back to watch it.. can't wait to get back home to see what happened. Thanks jimbo
Good luck with the car. I get to work on an Isuzu NPR my boss bought Friday when I get back to work. I'm interested but also concerned. He bought it without me present because he didn't want to hear what I had to say. It's probably gonna cost half what he paid for it to get it commercially roadworthy again 😂
This feels like a early robot cantina Christmas special.
As an English teacher, I can't just ignore this: LOSES, not looses!
A man with a robotics background that has a channel named "Robot Cantina" actually using said background?! That's improbable!
I did similar with my Citroen C1 in one of my early videos, but I took the doors off too. It made a HUGE difference!
I risked the rozzers and took my wheel trims, sorry “hub caps” off too. This was in particular to reduce the unsprung weight and greatly improved the driving behaviour of the car 😊
No mater what you do, always keep the hub caps on. The rozzers only look for cars with missing wheel trim.
@@robotcantina8957 I’ll be sure to remember that for next time!
RIP little Saturn. You gave your life in service of some damned entertaining hillbilly experimental hackery. May car heaven have smooth roads and all the 93 octane you can slurp.
This channel is more and more turning in circles
Agreed.
Yup, if it goes on repetitively this way, this is on of the last of his video I watch
Fantastic - had me dancing about like a cheerleader!
Highlight of my Sunday and I didn't get passed commercials yet,!!! Thanks so much for posting. The feed was so dry today.
The rule of thumb is about 1/10th second for every 100lbs removed, so this is not surprising
RIP Saturn, "A Different Kind of Car Project."
lol, it certainly was
Thanks for the video. My daughter had a Saturn. It was a decent little car. Had a standard transmission.She did learn how to drive it. It’s the last standard transmission I ever driven.
Always a treat to watch.
I still can't understand people throwing a hissy-fit about crushing the Saturn even after you went the length to explain your reasons and motives. Can't make everyone happy. 🤷
Farewell, little red coupe. Thanks for all of the fun times.
dude..
This last performance is awesome!..
But be careful, you are one step ahead of the automotive industry..Brands produce cars with three-cylinder engines..
you are performing a performance show with two cylinders, either you will attract someone's attention and there will be people who consult you about "how you did it"... or you can piss someone off...
good luck..
I wish I were in Kansas. Great overall production. I reside in San Diego, I recently witnessed a South Dakota plated truck with 4XE. 2012 Toyota Tundra; Upfront it was modified with a inline 4 engine and the rear axle it had a modified pruis electric motor. Driver said that makes 55 miles a gallon. He ditched the power windows, lightened the interior. BTW, he added battery pack behind the rear passenger seat. Beautiful beast. He also owns a rear engined vaganon panel van with Porsche engine. Up front he added a Mitsubishi electric engine. You gotta see these vehicles. I'm gonna see if I can get his info.
Leroy’s slow little brother. Too bad it couldn’t do endurance laps at the freedom factory!
With the weight reduction the Kubota Saturn looks like c3po in The Phantom Menace 😂
The end of one project and the beginning of another. Thanks for sharing information I didn't realize I needed to know until you gave it to me. lol I look forward to Sundays so I can watch your latest video. I have really enjoyed your projects. Phil
That car could have been a super cool helicopter.
The rule I use is " every 100 lbs of weight is 1mpg. ". But that's with a v8 truck, and or traction trailer. Your millage may vary. 😅
I'm a fan of the new 'how fast can you field strip a Saturn' game
Thanks for the final send off! Good times, good memories by all.
I wish I was half as good at getting my hair brained ideas done as you are. Why I bet I'd be at least half as famous as you! Seriously fun as always.
Easy fix for the aerodynamics is just adding more stickers oddly enough.
I mean yeah a lot of stickers, but who doesn't like stickers?
The weight reduction sequence was reminiscent of BOM’s Getting the Funk Out. Pretty cool.
Farewell Saturn. may you ride shiny and chrome in Valhalla!
I hope you kept that hood for the shop wall at least. RIP Kubota Saturn.
Thanks for the great content on it!
* five years later *
Robot cantina here, today we're putting a personal fusion reactor into a '98 civic!
I had totally forgot the Saturn had mostly plastic body panels and was one of the big pushed selling points on the sales commercials. I remember them hitting it with a bat lol!
On my Saturn Vue the only metal panels it has are the hood, roof and rear lift gate
You might have been able to remove the roof as well. I know on the sedans the roof was just bolted on so they could easily swap between sunroof models at the factory.
I just checked and indeed the roof panel is both glued and bolted in place. Well its too late now, but that would have been epic.
With the roof removed you'd probably have to add reinforcements elsewhere (like welding the doors shut, ruclips.net/video/qrWHlTv7YD0/видео.html ), since the roof is a structural member.
@@ChristianStoutThe structural members would remain it's simply a flat sheet metal plate.
Now It looks like the car was parked in downtown Portland overnight 😂😂
Looking forward to the next project with the Kubota Diesel engine.
Makes me want to get a shop again and build some fun projects.
I miss the garden gnomes. Maybe they can help to dismantle the Saturn. I am sure they would love the sawzall.
it was oddly satisfying watching you put the saturn on a diet. lol I was wondering if the loss of aerodynamics would offset the gains from the weight loss.
Taps for the Saturn. Its heart will live on!
Man, glad I was never in a Saturn in a car accident. Damn
Goodbye Saturn! Here’s hoping you get recycled into something wonderful!
It's fascinating to see that the Saturn is constructed like a Trabant. A pressed steel and welded sub structure with plastic panels attached over the top. It was a fun series. 😊
RIP the Saturn, good video👍. I'm looking forward to seeing more content using the Kabota diesel.
This is so far my favorite project. Hope to see a continuation of this great little Kubota Diesel. More powah!
A higher pressure pump and more boost is all what a Diesel needs to make more power (while keeping excellent fuel efficiency). And it also seems that the Kubota has pretty strong internals so no worries about that.
5:00 noooo the aerodynamics!
A good send off for the best project so far, I think. This little Saturn was awesome
They took a lesson from the Trabant with that Saturn in the sense that all the exterior panels are of plastic, suspended on a metal skeleton.
I think that little diesel engine should end up in a small pickup truck for some offroad adventures.
Here is an idea for a next project car using the Kubota engine....find an old bmw..or Miata and put the engine in it and a roll cage and turn it into a 24 hour of lemons race car...I would say an old Z3 would do more than fine for the idea...and will more than likely be more reliable than the factory setup...but just an idea
The fact you could actually remove the rear quarter panels is amazing, you basically can't do that with any modern car now.
I wonder what you're gonna put the Kubota in next; a Suzuki X90, a Geo Tracker, a Trabant? The possibilities are endless!
Trabant would be great❤
Id love to see a cops reaction to your saturn stripped of body panels.😅 it reminded me of the planes trains and automobiles movie.😆
We called these Splaturns because in an accident they flew all apart.
Saturn naked, wouldn't seen one before and looks interesting!
im pretty sure you stated you have no plans of doing so, but man i would REALLY love to see this power plant in the Renault! thanks for another cool video! =)
Of all the car channels on RUclips, I did not expect Jimbo to jump on the fad and bust out the exo-saturn!
Looking a the Saturn reminded me of the scene on the Martian with Matt Damon where he had to strip the return capsule to make it as light as possible in order to reach orbit...
Kubota in motorcycle .....now there's a project 👍
Ah yes, my favorite Sunday television show! I can't wait to see what you can do with the engine, and stepper motor stuff.
~4:00 glad to know you used one that was basically a parts car to begin with.
I can't wait to see what the new chassis is. I hope its something fun and unique.
Just love your humour Jimbo! Bye bye Saturn!
A good idea would be to glue the exterior panels to the car (them being plastic means they are/were already light), thus improving the aerodynamics and reducing the weight (no bolts used)
I found this channel at the start of this build. Sad to see it go but I’m excited for the next Biuld.
Might be easier to have the stepper change a pivot point in the throttle linkage than having it turn the rack screw. Same effect without having to modify the injection pump. Looking forward to seeing what this engine ends up in next!
Sure hope you kept the transmission from that Saturn. I have a feeling that will come in handy for future projects.
And the pedal assembly.
The Saturn MP3 close ratio gearbox is almost a perfect match for this little engine.
@@robotcantina8957 - Exactly. Plus being a cable linkage manual, you can throw it in just about anything without worrying about the linkage binding.
My sister used to love these crappy little cars. She had 3 of them, but went through 6 engines and a rebuild in less than 10 years. I told her I was tired of working on cars she refused to maintain, so she switched to Fords. Even eventually started changing her oil. :p
@@sienileSIX engines? What kind of engine did it have? My 2003 Saturn Vue has the 2.2l 4cyl and it has 365,000 miles and not to jinx it now, but it's still running good. Just burns a little oil
@@desertrat1357 - You missed the part about her not changing her oil. :P She started when she locked the manual SC2 up coming off the interstate. That was engine 5. Didn't do it often enough until after #6... which was an engine I rebuilt from a junkyard and painted the words LAST EVER on the front of the block. Told her I was done swapping Saturn engines.
At that point you should’ve just made it a convertible. The sawzaw was already out LOL
You’re the type of guy that would love to own a aixam car (or truck) xD
Thank you again for another great video. And what's that you said? The car hasn't sold yet? Ok, I'll leave the craigslist ad up. I'll update the add to include the new paint job and the 8k in new parts. The body panels are included right? Too bad they don't match the new paint job.
In all seriousness, I just noticed how many comments you are receiving and how many subscribers you now have. I'll cut down on my silly comments like this one. Congratulations on how much the cannel has grown!!
R.I.P. Kubota Saturn
Now this is how you properly send off a car!
I'll have to remember to ask you where to get those Saturn body panel removal tools - they seem to work great and increase efficiency for sure...
It's time for a new chassis. Thanks for keeping the Kubota... the only other small diesel I love is Yanmar. Thanks for the videos, they tickled my gray matter.
Mikel
Thanks for the content you make I always enjoy the curiosity and ambition yall bring tit he table. I tune in to these videos every now and then and they’re always great!
Saturn worked really hard to make these cars Aerodynamic
It's easiest to "inspect" intake gaskets with the engine running. Spray the flange with brake or carb clean while it is idling.