Sato was running straight. Rossi steered to the right for a moment to avoid Hunter-Reay. Only Sato should not be blamed. It was unfortunate for all drivers. 佐藤はまっすぐ走行していた。ロッシはハンタレイを避けるために一瞬だけ右にステアリングを切ってる。佐藤だけ非難されるべきではない。全てのドライバーが不運だった。
"If you no longer go for a gap, you're no longer a racing driver." - Ayrton Senna Imho, this crash is IndyCar's fault. Look up the 1973 Indy 500. There's a reason why the start at Indy is done the way it is, with the pace car pulling off on the backstretch and the rows spaced tens of yards apart from each other. Packing everyone up on a super speedway is not a good idea and giving them less than 200 yards to accelerate is even worse. People try to time the start and get advantages, Marco almost ran over half the field. Sato thought he had a gap and went for it. As Jackie Stewart would say, "...he's playing a racing driver." He caused the crash but I don't think it was his fault. And IndyCar also needs to consider F1 style race restart rules. If we're just going to be like NASCAR and allow someone to ruin three driver's championship drives in the first lap of a 500 mile race, this show isn't worth watching. That race was a farce. And I love this series. But I want the drivers to be safe more than I want to see wheel banging. Get it together, IndyCar.
Senna said that after taking out Prost on purpose in Japan in 1990, so that quote doesn't really work. Apart from anything else, you go for a gap if it is there and the circumstances are right. Coming across two cars on lap 1 of a 500 mile race is neither of those things.
This reminds me of the "Whose fault is it Anyway" incident with the 2007 Michigan crash where it was determined Dario Franchitti was vastly majority at fault (Despite his whining that it was the other driver's fault... Spoiler: It was Dario's by a mile)... It's no different this time by either. Sure the car on the inside (Rossi) came up a tiny bit, but the car on top (Sato) came down way more, so vastly majority Sato's fault.
The more you watch it, the more it's Sato who moves left just as the 2 cars beside him drift a little right. Satos steering wheel is straight, which on an oval serup means the car is steering left.
@@bsmith1164 Most people don't realize that's not always the case. Some drivers prefer to have the wheel adjusted so straight is straight, even on ovals. Here's Ericsson mentioning it, about his test in Texas: "'Speaking of road courses, Ericsson said his steering was set up the way most oval rookies prefer, with the car biased for turn-in, but the steering wheel in ‘genuine’ alignment. “I think I ran the normal Arrow SPM setup,” he said, “where you’re keeping pressure to the right on the straights, and then you relax that pressure coming into the turn and the car starts turning itself. That didn’t feel too strange, it was quite normal. “Yeah, I know what you mean about the steering wheel. Some people like to have their steering actually turned slightly to the right for the straights so it’s straight ahead in the turns, but mine was a bit more set up like for a road course. '" I'm not saying this has anything to do with the Sato thing, I just see that default assumption a lot and thought it might be an interesting fact for people.
@@weemissile it's not really enough to assign him 100% of the blame though. Hunter-Reay probably didn't realise that Sato was coming alongside Rossi, because he didn't give up any room either. I don't think it can be called anything other than a racing incident
Relived to know, that all the drivers, literally, walked away, and Rosenqvist, who went to the hospital, for further evaluation, has been released. Concerned, however, about the time it took the safety team to get to Felix...
@@joeytebben3806 The AMR Safety's Team radio is a separate , digital encrypted network, completely separate from that of the drivers and race control. The team's only communication is with their director Jim Norman, placed, inside race control, on track leader, Tim Baughman, in Safety 2( or in S1, now), and the on site medical center... May I add... I don't believe, IMO only here, Felix's, radio wasn't probably, working after an impact, like that...
they literally said why that was. felix was talking the whole time on the radio and told them he was fine so there was not a huge rush to get people right to him. instead they had to tend to the car that was upside down and on fire. so lets be glad for real open cockpits that didnt trap a driver inside and inverted.
@CheetahLynx Sato saw that there was no way that 3 wide was going to work going into the tunnel turn and that is the reason why he cut down so quick on Rossi. Being patient at a track like this keeps accidents like this from happening.
Power, Newgarden, Dixon etc all defended Pocono and hope the race continues for 2020 and beyond. I value their opinion more than a bunch of bloggers and internet trolls.
First of all, I know more about NASCAR than Indycar. The biggest complaint that I hear about this track is that the Lond Pond straightway is too wide, and narrows sharply entering Turn 2. As much as I hate the yellow line rule in NASCAR at Daytona and Talladega, does anyone think it would work for Indycar at Pocono?
Rails and Racing no because the drivers didn't go past the yellow line to get pass. If you want to move up the line closer to the outside wall then yes. It would discouraged drivers from trying to go 3 wide into a hard 2 wide turn. I think the biggest problem is respect. T2 is just a copy and paste of one of the turns at Indy. They wouldn't dare attempt a move like that at Indy so why would they do it at Pocono.
@@agamernamedwill2585 Yes, I meant make the straight the same width as Indy. Sage Karam said that Turn 2 was the main problem. He said that the Lond Pond straightway is too wide and allows drivers to make wild moves like they did yesterday. The entrance to Turn 2 sharply narrows, which it doesn't do at Indy. In fact, a few weeks ago when NASCAR made its second trip to Pocono, NBC referred to the corner as, "the funnel". Anyway, a Indycar yellow line rule might just open up the same can of worms that it did in NASCAR. This really wasn't my best idea. I don't have any good ones. Also, David Land, who was at the race, pointed out that there wasn't enough spacing between the rows on the initial start, and that a Indy 500 style three-wide start would better space out the field on the initial start. Higher SAFER barriers and new catch-fencing would also improve the safety of the track. I personally think that the track layout's fine, but if the drivers don't like it, then there won't be any racing.
Rails and Racing I agree, that’s what I’m saying if they move the line up to be the width of the turn it would force the drivers to respect the turn like they do at Indy. If they just made a yellow line rule now it wouldn’t matter because no one goes below it.
*Unpopular* *Opinion* - 2018's wreck was caused by Robert Wickens - 2019's wreck was caused by Takuma Sato Blaming Pocono is a scapegoat for the real issues here...
@@timzy4395 Sato did not turn yeah. Look at the onboard. When his car is seen to turn its because Rossi is pushing his rear out. Look at the line Rossi takes to avoid Hunter.
The question is not how likely is it to have an incident (drivers will be drivers) The real question is when someone makes a mistake how bad will the outcome be. And that is imho why Pocono should be scrapped. This track is functionally between Talladega/Daytona and Indianapolis. Indy is most of the time single file which is relatively safe and corners are game of chicken meaning mostly that the decision who goes ahead is made before the corner is entered Talladega/Daytona is always side by side which means everyone is always in full focus and front and rear of car will more likely hit at the same time which is safer. Pocono is an attack style corner making where TO often the front of 1 car will be next to the rear of the other car, which is how bad accidents are made. Pocono is bad by reason of how often you are in the most risky configuration.
That was a lot in :47! Sato should not be taking so much heat. There were two other guys there, and Rossi was left with no where to go, he went up a bit, and Sato came down a bit, but Rossi was trying to give RHR a bit more room. That’s what it looks like to me.
To everyone on here blaming Sato solely, the video clearly shows it was not ALL his fault. Should he have pushed the issue 3-wide into turn 2? Probably not, but Rossi did not hold his line. He went into Sato trying to give RHR some room at the bottom. It's a case of all three pushing too hard on lap 1. Also, had Rossi not had a terrible start he would not have been there. I know it's a small mistake, but small mistakes costs championships. If this is the difference for Rossi not winning the title, it's his own fault.
Beef Wellington the one thing I will say is that the more I look at it the more it's not completely satos fault. RHR is is pushing Rossi up and squeezeing him and is disturbing Rossi's air which makes the car harder to keep still. So Rossi moves up slightly it's now three wide, Sato comes three wide and disrupts Rossi's air more. Sato moves down faster then Rossi moves up which causes the hit. My belief is that Sato could of avoided this whole crash if he gave more room and didn't side draft so aggressively.
@@agamernamedwill2585 Definitely, Sato could have done that, and RHR could have not have ran it so close to Rossi on the inside as well. Rossi could have avoided it by simply getting a better start. A sluggish start in front of the whole field always causes chaos. Sato for sure bears some of the blame for the crash but none for costing Rossi a championship. He should have gotten a better start.
The sport was built on speed and danger. Last year, Wickens wreck was a freak accident. This year sato was over aggressive. It’s not the track. It’s the low downforce cars and drivers being too aggressive
So many drivers got lucky in that crash especially Rossi who was literally only cm away from getting decapitated like Ryan Hunter Reay last year and going home in a body bag. I'm just really glad it wasn't another Justin Wilson or Robert Wickens incident and everyone was okay after that.
Safety teams should carry quickly-expandable mattresses/airbags (enough to cushion the vehicle's central fuselage) in case it is necessary to turn a flipped car while the driver is still inside. The suspension is usually off, leaving only hard contact surfaces, and it is mostly not feasible to set the car down gently by hand, so this kit would enable a more secure and controlled righting of an overturned car while greatly reducing the risk of further impact injury to the driver.
Se tu e br e esta vendo o meu comentário, na minha visão o takuma sim foi o culpado mas o ryan tbm deveria ser o culpado pois ele jogou o carro pra cima do alexandre rossi, ou seja, o takuma devia ter uma pena branda, junto com o ryan que jogou o carro pra cima do rossi, no maximo que eles merecem mesmo, e so tomar um puxao de orelha e fica por isso mesmo.
People should also realize that there might've been spotters in turn 2 but they were in the infield and theres no way Rossi's spotter would've seen Sato. Not to mention Sato's onboard says it all, he's not to blame for all of this
I mean nascar manages to have spotters for the whole track. I get there moving slower but I’d think I’d nascar can see the whole circuit shouldn’t they also.
Scary for Felix, I thought that for the 2nd year in a row a rookie has been injured... thank goodness he was okay. Let's face it IndyCar, Pocono might be leaving the calendar if the speeds are a lot...
He moved like 2 meters to the right in 3 seconds while having a poor start and being much slower than everyone around. Should've just kept his line and not trying to draft Dixon.
Watch it frame by frame and tell me when. Rossi first bangs wheels with Dixon, still keeps moving to the right. Sato didn't move a foot to the left once he was by the Rossi's side. Check those black lines and Sato's car position in relation to Dixon (unless you're going to say that Dixon was also moving to the left).
@@ceeam Sato had absolutely no business trying to make it 3 wide in the tunnel turn. Obviously you know nothing about racing. Yea let me make it 3 wide in the tunnel turn at Pocono, one of the most dangerous turns in all of motorsports.
I agree. The percentage is irrelevant. Watched it at slowmo too. Sato making a 3 wide on the straight at this wide track is no issue, and he had a huge run to just back off. RHR not so much and was squeezing Rossi into Sato. Then, Rossi made one small move to the right for RHR instead of backing off. But it was a racing incident and all too quick, just like people ruining Sato for this.
Sato had room up high and he came down. Did he misjudge a defensive move or did he not see Rossi?? Hope pocono doesnt get the bad rap for this and everything else before...
They were racing. Every driver thought to keep fast. Sato is a racing driver, This is strange it invites criticism. Definitely, it is a racing accident.
Y'all might want to consider a decrease in power for Pocano for the same reason NASCAR has restrictor plates for Daytona and Taladega. Can't change the aero much more so decrease the power to decrease the speed some and then explain to the drivers about 3 wide in the curves.
Pocono's nature is this type of stuff I love sometimes 8-wide racing, but being unsafe sometimes unnerves me... Either way, it's good for the drivers to be safe
@@VG03Racing Not yet, we saw the 2017 crash and nothing happened, the real issue here is the dangerousness of the track itself, is so wide that gives the chance to make riskier moves than Indy allows, but it's really worth it after what we saw with Wickens last year?
@@Walker_41279 you understand that indy has killed, maimed, and injured FAR more drivers than pocono, right? Plus the wreck today saw no serious injuries. Wickens was a freak accident.
@@VG03Racing Technology today makes possible that we can protect the drivers in case of a huge accident, it's true Indy killed far more drivers, but let's remind ourselves from what year we race there, 1911. Pocono was first inserted into the calendar in 1971, 60 years difference, back in the day, Pocono has been criticized due to its roughness and still today the track has the same characteristics.
@@Walker_41279 you know that track was built for indycars, and belongs to the open wheels, not because what happen today, last year and 2015 means they have to leave a place because is dangerous, Indianapolis has a black history of accidents, but they are still running there, the point is, if they drop this venue then, what future will be for this series? , an all road course series? No, the heritage of open wheels in America is the ovals.
Clearly Satos fault here but I don't think IndyCar will be back at Pocono next year. It seems like some of the drivers don't even want to race there now
I hope they can keep Pocono, what we need is keep the ovals and adding more, not removing and then replacing but the numbers are still low (5). This was fault for one driver making a dumb move.
This track is out of date and not a place anyone should be racing at. Drivers of the IndyCar series, if you don't organize yourselves and REFUSE to race at this venue, one or more of you will be added to the list that includes Greg Moore, Dan Wheldon, Justin Wilson, and Robert Wickens.
If is for that, then drop indianapolis too, what do you say? By the way, you know Justin Wilson broke his back in mid Ohio in 2011, Dario Franchitti ends his career in the streets of Houston, for what say of Jeff krosnoff's accident in Toronto or Christian Fittipaldi and Adrian Fernández in Australia, or Will Power in Sonoma 2009, or James Hinchcilffe with a piece of car at the indy gp. Yeah there is your claim about drop this oval or the other ovals, there is still a huge danger in the road courses too.
@@FastSports-ScaleCarGarage And you are a professional driver to say that?, I don't care what do you do in your life, I don't freaking care, and no, I don't have to drive a formula car to say that, or do you think that a real PROFESSIONAL driver would say that? My point is the lack of knowledge about the series, and even in the road courses, big accidents can happen too.
@@FastSports-ScaleCarGarage And my question to you? Where is it? Are you a professional driver? Or are you just another fool who pretend to be something that is not?
Plz my we get rid of pocono we sadly lost justin Wilson in 2015 and sadly had the crash with Robert Wickens last year and this years crash wich almost was a repeat of Robert's crash
Cameron Balser yes and that was indycars darkest day. Going to 19 500’s and witnessing him win 2 of them live I was in tears after that wreck and finding out it killed him. However, I still wish indycar races at those tracks. It’s the heritage of the sport. High speed ovals
Justin Wilson's death could've happened at ANY track though. It juts so happened to occur at Pocono. Wickens' crash was more of a freak accident than anything. Though I still stand by the belief that the ovals that Indycar goes to (or atleast those with little banking like Pocono) should raise the retaining walls, or Indycar should modify the aero kits for the ovals so they don't climb the walls so easily.
What happened with Wilson already happened with Massa on F1 and Surtees on F2, both in 2009. It's just awful luck. Can't wait for the new designs of the indycars.
Sato was running straight. Rossi steered to the right for a moment to avoid Hunter-Reay. Only Sato should not be blamed. It was unfortunate for all drivers.
佐藤はまっすぐ走行していた。ロッシはハンタレイを避けるために一瞬だけ右にステアリングを切ってる。佐藤だけ非難されるべきではない。全てのドライバーが不運だった。
Completely Sato’s fault.
It's been a while since "Take em out Sato" has done anything that stupid. How much did Penske pay for that?
"If you no longer go for a gap, you're no longer a racing driver." - Ayrton Senna
Imho, this crash is IndyCar's fault. Look up the 1973 Indy 500. There's a reason why the start at Indy is done the way it is, with the pace car pulling off on the backstretch and the rows spaced tens of yards apart from each other. Packing everyone up on a super speedway is not a good idea and giving them less than 200 yards to accelerate is even worse. People try to time the start and get advantages, Marco almost ran over half the field. Sato thought he had a gap and went for it. As Jackie Stewart would say, "...he's playing a racing driver." He caused the crash but I don't think it was his fault. And IndyCar also needs to consider F1 style race restart rules. If we're just going to be like NASCAR and allow someone to ruin three driver's championship drives in the first lap of a 500 mile race, this show isn't worth watching. That race was a farce. And I love this series. But I want the drivers to be safe more than I want to see wheel banging. Get it together, IndyCar.
Senna said that after taking out Prost on purpose in Japan in 1990, so that quote doesn't really work. Apart from anything else, you go for a gap if it is there and the circumstances are right. Coming across two cars on lap 1 of a 500 mile race is neither of those things.
Driver on the high side is to blame. What in the heck was he thinking? A punk move for sure.
This reminds me of the "Whose fault is it Anyway" incident with the 2007 Michigan crash where it was determined Dario Franchitti was vastly majority at fault (Despite his whining that it was the other driver's fault... Spoiler: It was Dario's by a mile)... It's no different this time by either. Sure the car on the inside (Rossi) came up a tiny bit, but the car on top (Sato) came down way more, so vastly majority Sato's fault.
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If you watch Sato's onboard, you can see that he doesn't turn into Rossi
The more you watch it, the more it's Sato who moves left just as the 2 cars beside him drift a little right. Satos steering wheel is straight, which on an oval serup means the car is steering left.
@@bsmith1164 exactly, but it's so hard to tell when they're moving so quickly. I still think it's harsh to say it's 100% Sato's fault though
He does squeeze him though.
@@bsmith1164 Most people don't realize that's not always the case. Some drivers prefer to have the wheel adjusted so straight is straight, even on ovals.
Here's Ericsson mentioning it, about his test in Texas:
"'Speaking of road courses, Ericsson said his steering was set up the way most oval rookies prefer, with the car biased for turn-in, but the steering wheel in ‘genuine’ alignment.
“I think I ran the normal Arrow SPM setup,” he said, “where you’re keeping pressure to the right on the straights, and then you relax that pressure coming into the turn and the car starts turning itself. That didn’t feel too strange, it was quite normal.
“Yeah, I know what you mean about the steering wheel. Some people like to have their steering actually turned slightly to the right for the straights so it’s straight ahead in the turns, but mine was a bit more set up like for a road course. '"
I'm not saying this has anything to do with the Sato thing, I just see that default assumption a lot and thought it might be an interesting fact for people.
@@weemissile it's not really enough to assign him 100% of the blame though. Hunter-Reay probably didn't realise that Sato was coming alongside Rossi, because he didn't give up any room either. I don't think it can be called anything other than a racing incident
0:29 is the best comment for this
Relived to know, that all the drivers, literally, walked away, and Rosenqvist, who went to the hospital, for further evaluation, has been released.
Concerned, however, about the time it took the safety team to get to Felix...
Donald M. Gawron the safety crew were to busy helping Sato that they never realized Rosenqvist was involved i
Donald M. Gawron I completely agree with you and hopefully they will do something about it
@@joeytebben3806 The AMR Safety's Team radio is a separate , digital encrypted network, completely separate from that of the drivers and race control.
The team's only communication is with their director Jim Norman, placed, inside race control, on track leader, Tim Baughman, in Safety 2( or in S1, now), and the on site medical center...
May I add... I don't believe, IMO only here, Felix's, radio wasn't probably, working after an impact, like that...
It took more than 2 minutes!
they literally said why that was. felix was talking the whole time on the radio and told them he was fine so there was not a huge rush to get people right to him. instead they had to tend to the car that was upside down and on fire. so lets be glad for real open cockpits that didnt trap a driver inside and inverted.
On Sato's onboard, which they chose not to show, it showed he just went to the right n went straight
Absolutely correct.
where did you see it then? Do you have a link?
@@Kraven83 Sato's twitter
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Takuma is not down, Rossi is up!
Sato just dropped his SR rating.
raceboy1971 yeah, that was at least an 8X for him...rough one. 😬
So glad everybody was okay. Will Power who won the race actually got a piece of the wreck. There was debris from that wreck that got into his car
John Vandeventer the MLB baseball fan 2019 exactly why they need some kind of window around the drivers
Shoutout to Ferrucci for keeping his foot down.
Horrible driving by Sato. No reason for him to go 3 wide in the tunnel turn of all places.
@CheetahLynx Sato saw that there was no way that 3 wide was going to work going into the tunnel turn and that is the reason why he cut down so quick on Rossi. Being patient at a track like this keeps accidents like this from happening.
Sato needs to be banned or at minimum penalized for causing a huge wreck when it was easily avoidable
@@Goinstramentsandcars Rossi was basically saying that in his interview. Ashame this accident basically might have cost him the championship.
Power, Newgarden, Dixon etc all defended Pocono and hope the race continues for 2020 and beyond.
I value their opinion more than a bunch of bloggers and internet trolls.
Person Of Interest They removed it
Rahal's on board did show it wasn't Sato's fault.
That was all sato.pocono is fine
Until everyone saw Sato's onboard that is
琢磨を信じる...
Sato was only going straight to pass Rossi. Check Sato's onboard camera. You'll see that Sato didn’t turn in.
First of all, I know more about NASCAR than Indycar. The biggest complaint that I hear about this track is that the Lond Pond straightway is too wide, and narrows sharply entering Turn 2. As much as I hate the yellow line rule in NASCAR at Daytona and Talladega, does anyone think it would work for Indycar at Pocono?
Rails and Racing no because the drivers didn't go past the yellow line to get pass. If you want to move up the line closer to the outside wall then yes. It would discouraged drivers from trying to go 3 wide into a hard 2 wide turn. I think the biggest problem is respect. T2 is just a copy and paste of one of the turns at Indy. They wouldn't dare attempt a move like that at Indy so why would they do it at Pocono.
@@agamernamedwill2585 Yes, I meant make the straight the same width as Indy. Sage Karam said that Turn 2 was the main problem. He said that the Lond Pond straightway is too wide and allows drivers to make wild moves like they did yesterday. The entrance to Turn 2 sharply narrows, which it doesn't do at Indy. In fact, a few weeks ago when NASCAR made its second trip to Pocono, NBC referred to the corner as, "the funnel". Anyway, a Indycar yellow line rule might just open up the same can of worms that it did in NASCAR. This really wasn't my best idea. I don't have any good ones.
Also, David Land, who was at the race, pointed out that there wasn't enough spacing between the rows on the initial start, and that a Indy 500 style three-wide start would better space out the field on the initial start. Higher SAFER barriers and new catch-fencing would also improve the safety of the track. I personally think that the track layout's fine, but if the drivers don't like it, then there won't be any racing.
Rails and Racing I agree, that’s what I’m saying if they move the line up to be the width of the turn it would force the drivers to respect the turn like they do at Indy. If they just made a yellow line rule now it wouldn’t matter because no one goes below it.
Oof for Sato, Hinchcliffe, Hunter-Reay, Rossi, and Rosinquest.
*Unpopular* *Opinion*
- 2018's wreck was caused by Robert Wickens
- 2019's wreck was caused by Takuma Sato
Blaming Pocono is a scapegoat for the real issues here...
2018's crash was caused by Ryan Hunter Reay though.
Feels like Sato was at fault for this. Sucks to see this being a fan of Sato and Rossi
weemissile 2018 was more of a racing incident if anything
Doesnt matter who caused it. Bad PR is a death sentence for a racetrack regardless of how it really is
I agree
Just a questiion WHY?? everybody saing that is a SATO s fault??????
He turned into Rossi and basically caused the entire crash
@@timzy4395 No man Rossi drives to the right...take atention .....
@@kanall103 Well he had to do it to dodge his teammate but Sato turned way too aggressively
because they're stupid
@@timzy4395 Sato did not turn yeah. Look at the onboard. When his car is seen to turn its because Rossi is pushing his rear out. Look at the line Rossi takes to avoid Hunter.
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Rossi moved up on Sato because RHR was moving on Rossi inside.
They're trying to blame the track for these types of accidents when it seems more of a case of driver error.
Daniele Sbordone Absolutely agree with you, if anyone was at fault it was Takuma Sato I’m afraid.
The question is not how likely is it to have an incident (drivers will be drivers)
The real question is when someone makes a mistake how bad will the outcome be.
And that is imho why Pocono should be scrapped.
This track is functionally between Talladega/Daytona and Indianapolis.
Indy is most of the time single file which is relatively safe and corners are game of chicken meaning mostly that the decision who goes ahead is made before the corner is entered
Talladega/Daytona is always side by side which means everyone is always in full focus and front and rear of car will more likely hit at the same time which is safer.
Pocono is an attack style corner making where TO often the front of 1 car will be next to the rear of the other car, which is how bad accidents are made.
Pocono is bad by reason of how often you are in the most risky configuration.
0:36
Glad no one was seriously hurt in this but what in the world was Sato thinking?
"That escalated fast."
"It did, didn't it?"
No driver can win a race on the first lap
Maybe Lewis Hamilton can..
That was a lot in :47! Sato should not be taking so much heat. There were two other guys there, and Rossi was left with no where to go, he went up a bit, and Sato came down a bit, but Rossi was trying to give RHR a bit more room. That’s what it looks like to me.
Man oh man
Expensive.
All that cracking and popping with a dash of grinding is some expensive sfx.
To everyone on here blaming Sato solely, the video clearly shows it was not ALL his fault. Should he have pushed the issue 3-wide into turn 2? Probably not, but Rossi did not hold his line. He went into Sato trying to give RHR some room at the bottom. It's a case of all three pushing too hard on lap 1. Also, had Rossi not had a terrible start he would not have been there. I know it's a small mistake, but small mistakes costs championships. If this is the difference for Rossi not winning the title, it's his own fault.
Beef Wellington the one thing I will say is that the more I look at it the more it's not completely satos fault. RHR is is pushing Rossi up and squeezeing him and is disturbing Rossi's air which makes the car harder to keep still. So Rossi moves up slightly it's now three wide, Sato comes three wide and disrupts Rossi's air more. Sato moves down faster then Rossi moves up which causes the hit. My belief is that Sato could of avoided this whole crash if he gave more room and didn't side draft so aggressively.
@@agamernamedwill2585 Definitely, Sato could have done that, and RHR could have not have ran it so close to Rossi on the inside as well. Rossi could have avoided it by simply getting a better start. A sluggish start in front of the whole field always causes chaos. Sato for sure bears some of the blame for the crash but none for costing Rossi a championship. He should have gotten a better start.
Wow. At those speeds never know what else a car is going to hit before everything comes to a stop.
I’m afraid Pocono’s IndyCar days are over. Today’s race was a disaster.
The sport was built on speed and danger. Last year, Wickens wreck was a freak accident. This year sato was over aggressive. It’s not the track. It’s the low downforce cars and drivers being too aggressive
I hope not, but I'm crossing my fingers 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
Discriminatory
it's not the track
Torpedo Sato. Glad Willie P got his win, tough year for the fastest guy on the grid.
OMG…
They really destroying Nascar banner's there
So many drivers got lucky in that crash especially Rossi who was literally only cm away from getting decapitated like Ryan Hunter Reay last year and going home in a body bag. I'm just really glad it wasn't another Justin Wilson or Robert Wickens incident and everyone was okay after that.
Safety teams should carry quickly-expandable mattresses/airbags (enough to cushion the vehicle's central fuselage) in case it is necessary to turn a flipped car while the driver is still inside. The suspension is usually off, leaving only hard contact surfaces, and it is mostly not feasible to set the car down gently by hand, so this kit would enable a more secure and controlled righting of an overturned car while greatly reducing the risk of further impact injury to the driver.
oh sure remove pocono,and make it boring like the rest of the races,indy needs to create more danger
Intense, and scary
Glad they got rid of this track!! Used to be cool, but it’s time to get away from it
Se tu e br e esta vendo o meu comentário, na minha visão o takuma sim foi o culpado mas o ryan tbm deveria ser o culpado pois ele jogou o carro pra cima do alexandre rossi, ou seja, o takuma devia ter uma pena branda, junto com o ryan que jogou o carro pra cima do rossi, no maximo que eles merecem mesmo, e so tomar um puxao de orelha e fica por isso mesmo.
Never change Takuma, never change...
you are on the AAS
Love it glad everyone ok
I hope all are safe
OMG
Ouch!
HONDA！GO！GO！
People should also realize that there might've been spotters in turn 2 but they were in the infield and theres no way Rossi's spotter would've seen Sato. Not to mention Sato's onboard says it all, he's not to blame for all of this
I mean nascar manages to have spotters for the whole track. I get there moving slower but I’d think I’d nascar can see the whole circuit shouldn’t they also.
Oh Sato, oh dear oh dear.
Insert obvious racing game multiplayer lobby reference here.
I hope Sato burns for that.
Scary for Felix, I thought that for the 2nd year in a row a rookie has been injured... thank goodness he was okay. Let's face it IndyCar, Pocono might be leaving the calendar if the speeds are a lot...
LAP 1 CRASH
LAP 1 CRASH
anandguruji83 wow, you're even in Indycar videos.
We get it bot.
lol yikes
60% Rossi, 30% Sato, and maybe 10% RHR fault. Pity that they don't have the Sato's onboard.
How is Rossi at fault for any of this? He got sandwiched big time
He moved like 2 meters to the right in 3 seconds while having a poor start and being much slower than everyone around. Should've just kept his line and not trying to draft Dixon.
Watch it frame by frame and tell me when. Rossi first bangs wheels with Dixon, still keeps moving to the right. Sato didn't move a foot to the left once he was by the Rossi's side. Check those black lines and Sato's car position in relation to Dixon (unless you're going to say that Dixon was also moving to the left).
@@ceeam Sato had absolutely no business trying to make it 3 wide in the tunnel turn. Obviously you know nothing about racing. Yea let me make it 3 wide in the tunnel turn at Pocono, one of the most dangerous turns in all of motorsports.
I agree. The percentage is irrelevant. Watched it at slowmo too. Sato making a 3 wide on the straight at this wide track is no issue, and he had a huge run to just back off. RHR not so much and was squeezing Rossi into Sato. Then, Rossi made one small move to the right for RHR instead of backing off. But it was a racing incident and all too quick, just like people ruining Sato for this.
Bad move on Sato's part in the first lap no less.
これさーロッシのオンボードカメラじゃわからないけど
ロッシはハンターレイが来て右に少し切ってるからな空からの映像でみたら分かりやすいと思う
別に琢磨を擁護するつもりは無いけどちゃんとみればあれって思うね
前もタッペンが優勝した時にホンダエンジンのマッピングのせいでスタート2台とも遅れたって
書き込んだらスタート遅れてない雨だからみんなスタートミスしてたとか分けわからないこと言われて
ホンダアンチだって決めつけられたけどその人たちライブすら見てないしレッドブルのリップサービスに
騙されてスタート遅れてないって信じ切ってたもんな…でもライブの空からの映像みてたら明らかに分かるし
後からホンダエンジンのスタート設定の不具合ってことが報道されたけど優勝をとにかく祝いたいってことだったんでしょ
販売店の連中からしても痛いとこ突かれたくないよね下手したらホンダのミスでおわったかもしれないレースだったから
誰かを悪者にして利益を得たい連中もいるしこういうレースってのは客観的に冷静に見るべきだよ
ハンターレイもロッシもチームメイトだし擁護してる連中はカラムとか琢磨と一悶着あって恨みもってるやつだからな
インディも映像すべて出せよってのちゃんと公開しなよ仕事遅すぎ
Sato had room up high and he came down. Did he misjudge a defensive move or did he not see Rossi?? Hope pocono doesnt get the bad rap for this and everything else before...
Sato sucks can't win race first lay
They were racing. Every driver thought to keep fast. Sato is a racing driver, This is strange it invites criticism. Definitely, it is a racing accident.
Sato is washed up, that was clown driving, not race driving..
Y'all might want to consider a decrease in power for Pocano for the same reason NASCAR has restrictor plates for Daytona and Taladega. Can't change the aero much more so decrease the power to decrease the speed some and then explain to the drivers about 3 wide in the curves.
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いきなり左にライン変えられてるように見える
確かに寄ってる側の定点なのでそう見えるのは間違いではないです
もしまだ見てないなら琢磨さんのオンボード見てみるといいですよ
とがめられるほどのライン変更はないので
Pocono's nature is this type of stuff
I love sometimes 8-wide racing, but being unsafe sometimes unnerves me... Either way, it's good for the drivers to be safe
so should they leave indy too?
@@VG03Racing Not yet, we saw the 2017 crash and nothing happened, the real issue here is the dangerousness of the track itself, is so wide that gives the chance to make riskier moves than Indy allows, but it's really worth it after what we saw with Wickens last year?
@@Walker_41279 you understand that indy has killed, maimed, and injured FAR more drivers than pocono, right? Plus the wreck today saw no serious injuries. Wickens was a freak accident.
@@VG03Racing Technology today makes possible that we can protect the drivers in case of a huge accident, it's true Indy killed far more drivers, but let's remind ourselves from what year we race there, 1911. Pocono was first inserted into the calendar in 1971, 60 years difference, back in the day, Pocono has been criticized due to its roughness and still today the track has the same characteristics.
@@Walker_41279 you know that track was built for indycars, and belongs to the open wheels, not because what happen today, last year and 2015 means they have to leave a place because is dangerous, Indianapolis has a black history of accidents, but they are still running there, the point is, if they drop this venue then, what future will be for this series? , an all road course series? No, the heritage of open wheels in America is the ovals.
Sato needs to retire. What a disgrace of a driver.
Clearly Satos fault here but I don't think IndyCar will be back at Pocono next year. It seems like some of the drivers don't even want to race there now
There* And your opinion is valid, I think
@@hypesion2223 thanks for pointing out the grammar mistake. I changed it
@@tylerensminger You're welcome.
I hope they can keep Pocono, what we need is keep the ovals and adding more, not removing and then replacing but the numbers are still low (5). This was fault for one driver making a dumb move.
Sato’s fault, no doubt. He was in way over his head on that one.
Safe to say Pocono won’t be in the schedule for a very long time
I hope not. It's driver fault, not the track.
This track is out of date and not a place anyone should be racing at. Drivers of the IndyCar series, if you don't organize yourselves and REFUSE to race at this venue, one or more of you will be added to the list that includes Greg Moore, Dan Wheldon, Justin Wilson, and Robert Wickens.
If is for that, then drop indianapolis too, what do you say? By the way, you know Justin Wilson broke his back in mid Ohio in 2011, Dario Franchitti ends his career in the streets of Houston, for what say of Jeff krosnoff's accident in Toronto or Christian Fittipaldi and Adrian Fernández in Australia, or Will Power in Sonoma 2009, or James Hinchcilffe with a piece of car at the indy gp. Yeah there is your claim about drop this oval or the other ovals, there is still a huge danger in the road courses too.
@@DrColoso Have you ever driven a formula car in competition? When you do, then comment. Otherwise it may be best to rest your keyboard.
@@FastSports-ScaleCarGarage And you are a professional driver to say that?, I don't care what do you do in your life, I don't freaking care, and no, I don't have to drive a formula car to say that, or do you think that a real PROFESSIONAL driver would say that? My point is the lack of knowledge about the series, and even in the road courses, big accidents can happen too.
@@DrColoso You obviously have never voluntarily put your life in peril in any way. You know not of what you speak.
@@FastSports-ScaleCarGarage And my question to you? Where is it? Are you a professional driver? Or are you just another fool who pretend to be something that is not?
Plz my we get rid of pocono we sadly lost justin Wilson in 2015 and sadly had the crash with Robert Wickens last year and this years crash wich almost was a repeat of Robert's crash
Cameron Balser then we should get rid of Indy as well then balser. Not like Indy is more dangerous ya know or faster 🤷🏻♂️.
@@MrKeith8885 no on indy but look what happened after we lost Dan Weldon in Las Vegas
Cameron Balser yes and that was indycars darkest day. Going to 19 500’s and witnessing him win 2 of them live I was in tears after that wreck and finding out it killed him. However, I still wish indycar races at those tracks. It’s the heritage of the sport. High speed ovals
Justin Wilson's death could've happened at ANY track though. It juts so happened to occur at Pocono. Wickens' crash was more of a freak accident than anything. Though I still stand by the belief that the ovals that Indycar goes to (or atleast those with little banking like Pocono) should raise the retaining walls, or Indycar should modify the aero kits for the ovals so they don't climb the walls so easily.
What happened with Wilson already happened with Massa on F1 and Surtees on F2, both in 2009. It's just awful luck. Can't wait for the new designs of the indycars.