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  • Опубликовано: 24 апр 2017
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Комментарии • 312

  • @WillProwse
    @WillProwse  7 лет назад +37

    Hey everyone!! I noticed a common mistake that people make and I want to highlight it. Below, "Elvis Dumpster Dining" mentioned that his 6 volt golf cart batteries provide 190 amp hours, and that 4 of them provide around 800 amp hours. This is plain wrong! This is a common math mistake that I have been seeing a lot lately, and I really need to clear it up here.
    Below is his comment, and below that is my response:
    Elvis Dumpster Dining
    Philip O'Rourke - I bought 4 - 6 volt - 190 amp hour- agm- golf cart batteries from sams club for $170 each. Total capacity is around 800 amp hours which gives me 400 amp hours (%50). I've never been without power and they agm batteries work like a charm.
    High-tec and Frugal RV Travels with Will Prowse
    Ok huge problem with what Elvis is saying here. When you buy a 6 volt, 190 amp hour battery, you need to cut it in half to determine its amp hour rating at 12 volts.
    Example:
    A 100 amp hour 6 volt battery will give 50 amp hour at 12 volts
    If you have 2x 100 amp hour 6 volt batteries, they will deliver 100 amp hours, when wired in series at 12 volts.
    The amp hour rating changes when you change the voltage
    So this means that Elvis's battery bank is 380 amp hours. Because they are lead acid batteries, he has a usable capacity of 190 amp hours. Using 50% depth of discharge is a bad idea. There is a large chance that Elvis is not using his batteries to a full 50%. To increase life of the batteries, he should only discharge to 70%, which means that the usable amp hour rating of his battery bank is around 60 amp hours!!! Not 380 amp hours!
    Simple math just saved the day!!
    6 volt batteries are not a better deal. I made this same math mistake about 6 years ago. Anywho, check out my website to see what I recommend for lithium batteries.

    • @WillProwse
      @WillProwse  7 лет назад

      exactly!!

    • @RedRider1600
      @RedRider1600 6 лет назад +7

      +Will Prowse
      I think anybody who buys Deep Cycle batteries are going to run them down to 50% on a regular basis to get the most out of them. That is how they are normally used. So I don't know why you are talking about just 70 or 80%. That is unrealistic. Maximum battery life is not as important as useful battery life. If I had AGM Deep Cycles, I would run them down to at least 33% since they are capable of as low as 25%, or 20% as you stated. So what if they only last 3 to 5 years? They don't need to last forever. It's much more important to have the power that you need.

    • @Colaaah
      @Colaaah 6 лет назад +1

      RedRider1600 your end point doesn't really flow to/from where you began.
      Factor in recharge cycles etc... Tooooooo!
      🤔😎👍👌🍻😎🎼🎸

    • @duh-joong-e
      @duh-joong-e 5 лет назад +3

      But also, I thought AGM or the lead-acid battery has about 50% usable energy vs lithium have 80%. Which makes 100AH lead acid is about the same as 60AH Lithium?

    • @RedRider1600
      @RedRider1600 5 лет назад +2

      @@Colaaah
      I have no idea what you mean by, my end point doesn't really flow from where I began. What is that supposed to mean?
      I did factor in recharge cycles. What do you think I meant by, "So what if they only last 3 to 5 years"? What do you think that is referring to?

  • @choimdachoim9491
    @choimdachoim9491 4 года назад +8

    Appreciate how you don't waste time with extra words, instantly getting down to business, no hemming and hawing and uuhhhing. A lot of video makers think we're here to be entertained instead of educated. Good on ya!

  • @mattcarber6194
    @mattcarber6194 7 лет назад +48

    Your solar videos are hands down the best out there. So clear and concise. Thanks bud.

    • @WillProwse
      @WillProwse  7 лет назад +3

      Thank you!!

    • @bruceforster3709
      @bruceforster3709 4 года назад

      @@WillProwse
      I have also become an avid follower of your channel!

  • @dodgeguyz
    @dodgeguyz 3 года назад +5

    I think the big reason people go with sealed lead acid batteries is because most people are starting from nothing. and adding Lithium to the price of panels, wiring, controller and inverter would price them right out of going solar. So, when they need batteries the next time around they only need to buy batteries because they have everything else!
    Love your videos!

  • @pices2297
    @pices2297 4 года назад +30

    Dude, your eyes are mesmerizing!

    • @laizalott
      @laizalott 3 года назад +5

      I was just thinking "surely no one would comment on his gorgeous eyes in this video about batteries" and sure enough, right at the top, there you are! Glad I'm not the only one who had some trouble paying attention, lol

    • @op8995
      @op8995 3 года назад +2

      @@laizalott Mila Kunis eyes. 😁

    • @LilReaper1010
      @LilReaper1010 2 года назад

      I was gonna say

  • @richardswenson4669
    @richardswenson4669 5 лет назад +4

    Ordered 2 lithium 100 amp. I will have my wife watch this when she sees the charge card statement. Got your book, highly reccomend it.

  • @JamesMorrin
    @JamesMorrin 7 лет назад +15

    I just pulled the trigger on a 100ah Lithium ( LiFePO4) battery for my RV. Very expensive but after a lot of research and looking at battery technology it is the best battery for your dollar! The battery I got has a built in BMS system and it charges much like an AGM battery but it doesn't require an absorption or float charges.
    I also ended up getting a high-quality inverter charger that can be adjusted to charge the battery properly.
    Also spent some money on pure copper 0 gauge cable to wire the inverter charger!
    I should make an install video, it is going to be a huge upgrade for the vehicle.

    • @WillProwse
      @WillProwse  7 лет назад +3

      +James Morrin you did it right!! Awesome!!

    • @ellooku
      @ellooku 6 лет назад +2

      Ca you please share a buy link?

    • @Hundert1
      @Hundert1 6 лет назад

      James Morrin so i can't just use the same 3 stage converter that's built into my 2015 Keystone Outback Terrain? I'm currently using two Trojan 6volt T-145 wired to make single 12 volt and trying to figure out which Lithiums and how to replace properly. Thanks

    • @bruceforster3709
      @bruceforster3709 6 лет назад +2

      Mr. Morrin, you understand this EXACTLY. GOOD ON YOU!

  • @pedernalespete2341
    @pedernalespete2341 7 лет назад +3

    From your videos I could see you fitting in well in the 1980s & 1990s as well too. Of course the present suits your creativity and intellect quite well. I'm considerably older than you but am really enjoying and getting a lot out of your videos.

  • @agustinmorales3888
    @agustinmorales3888 6 лет назад +4

    Keep it up. We need people like you. I know it's not easy what you are doing but we wish you the best, young man.

  • @focusedmessagemarketing958
    @focusedmessagemarketing958 6 лет назад +2

    I worked for the USAF at Edwards AFB in CA. We serviced F-16, F-22, F-35, and other airframe batteries. The biggest change and a great one for efficiency cost and other factors was when the USAF went to lithium batteries. I saw first hand the size and weight difference and the reduced maintenance expense. The older lead acid batteries were labor pigs with terrible capacity. Our F-35 battery is a beast being a lithium with 345 volt capacity. Knowing batteries is one reason I bought a Yeti 1400. It’s about 45 pounds compared to its predecessor which was 105 pounds. I wanted an off the shelf unit for earthquake prone CA. The Goal Zero unit gives me that. Costly but very well made. They are on sale now at Amazon for $1399.

  • @huskyman2682
    @huskyman2682 7 лет назад

    For a young cool dude you are awesome. I'm the other end of the age scale with my girlfriend and we are 110% sold on Lithium Batteries. We've put two in an old Mercedes SLK that has been customized to do a round the world trip, the last job was to choice our power source, so we've gone down the Lithium root and next stage are the solar panels to power up when in the middle of know where. I can't thank you enough for such a great video, clear and simple to understand. We wish you all the best for a great life, thanks from the UK across the pond, Husky and my cool girl

  • @LBRoVe
    @LBRoVe 7 лет назад +1

    I just had this discussion yesterday. Another benefit of the lithium over lead acid is you do not have to fully charge the lithium battery once you start that cycle. With the Lead acid it is recommended to fully charge them to 100% once you begin the charge cycle. It is not always an easy task if you dont have shore hook ups and the sun is going down. I have an Aims 24 volt 3000w inverter that does not support lithium with 1000 watt solar array. If I knew a year ago what I know now, lithium would be in my camper instead of the AGMs, along with a different inverter. Good to see your on top of this info!

  • @halfdollamc
    @halfdollamc 3 года назад

    was looking to buy 2x 120ah lead batteries around 620 NZ dollars but after watching this will buy 1x 100ah lithium around same cost, and look to buy another down the track..... thanks for breaking it all down for us newbs... life saver

  • @anklesmd
    @anklesmd 7 лет назад +6

    Well explained, thanks for doing this, you convinced me to put Lithium in my RV!

  • @antoniopalmero4063
    @antoniopalmero4063 Год назад +1

    Just installed 2kw of panels and 3.6kw inverter . I’m going with SLA purely for cost , I will go with lifepo next .

  • @bruceforster3709
    @bruceforster3709 4 года назад

    I have a small Solar Power Station on our Shed Roof. he Array is 560 Watts Rated- which means at this latitude, I'm getting 4-450 Watts we can actually use. The Battery being fed is a Bio-Enno Power 100 Amp 12 Volt LiFePO4. I'm using a 20 Amp MPPT Controller DESIGNED for that Battery, and a 600 Watt Samlex PURE sine inverter. We Spent about $3,000.00 Total on his system to get our feet wet, as it were.
    We have had ZERO issues with this system thus far!
    At present, we're using it to Run the Home entertainment system, the Ham Radio Station, keep all our personal electronic devices charged, and 12 Volt L.E.D's light the entire house. We can't run the fridge, Range, or the Laundry (YET!), and we Heat the home with an off-grid Kerosene Heater.
    Our Summer Electric Bills HAVE been as low as !8.00 a Month, in Winter, under $50.00 a Month. This has been the norm for us for the past Two Years.
    Its the stuff that generates HEAT that robs our Wallets!
    Our Goal wen the wife retires is to move to an area with 300+ Sun Days per year, put up a 6 KW Solar Array.
    and a 1,000 Amp Lithium Battery Bank....10,000 Watt Hours of Storage, OH, YEAH!

  • @BlackTopBoondocker
    @BlackTopBoondocker 7 лет назад +10

    I agree with much of what you said but it is still a HUGE chunk of cash up front. A lot of people have been posting videos also saying they are not getting life span as advertised even Tecnomadia reports loss of capacity after 3 years of use. Weight and maintenance would be the biggest benefit I think but not capacity for the dollar in a RV. Solar, generator and just driving can replenish a well balance system rather quickly for many years without huge investment. Don't get me wrong Its great technology but for me the cost needs to come way down. Good video Will Thumbs up.

    • @WillProwse
      @WillProwse  7 лет назад +4

      +BlackTop Boondocker yeah that's absolutely true

    • @Hundert1
      @Hundert1 6 лет назад

      BlackTop Boondocker Thank you, makes sense. Lithium is fine for the Home Depot Ryobi drills and weed wackers, but for bigger stuff they are so costly. Even just to purchase a 7.5 lithium battery for the Ego blower costs like 350 bucks.

    • @bruceforster3709
      @bruceforster3709 6 лет назад

      I'm not disagreeing with you, but your comment raised a question in my mind. Did the people who claimed only three years of use know how many charge/discharge cycles the batteries had been through when they started noticing issues? RV'er's use more power than they realize. Their batteries could easily have been through 1,000 or more cycles without them realizing it. One thing I WILL agree with is that the cost of this technology DOES need to come down!

  • @tobiasheemels6552
    @tobiasheemels6552 3 года назад +1

    You are like the *Teal Swan* of Electrical Engineering :D Muchhh appreciated!! Many Thankss!!

  • @J3sus1sL0rd1
    @J3sus1sL0rd1 6 лет назад +1

    Your good statement for Lithium-Ion are the cheaper way to in the long run. As of Lithium-Iron Phosphate will do double amount charging cycles than Lithium-Ion. Average people always look at the small picture; "so Lithium battery cost way too much!" One of the big picture you're looking at is about both Lithium-ion and LiFePO4 battery will properly deliver at very high demand of power. As lead acid battery has faded and fading power as you're demanding more power.

  • @TonyBSyr
    @TonyBSyr 7 лет назад +1

    Here is something that puzzles me. Tesla claims that they are close to producing lithium batteries for around $100. per kw hour. Also saw another story that LG is selling 2 kw hour lithium batteries to Chevrolet for about $150. per KW hour. Just for reference a 100 amp 12 volt batter is about 1.2 kw hour or close to a useful 1 kw hour.
    I understand that large volume users have an advantage, but it seems that small users are being taken to the cleaners and prices will drop drastically soon.

  • @controlyourfuture5477
    @controlyourfuture5477 5 лет назад

    GBS has lithium batteries at 12 volt and 100ah for less then 600 bucks but it has no BMS. However , many people bottom balance them really well and check them time to time , once every year and they never need to be balance. I took mine down to 8.9 volts one time and brought it back to life. it still works just as good.

  • @trewmika1869
    @trewmika1869 4 года назад +1

    If you have a camper van and you go on a trip a few times a year, you do not need lithium at all because you do not use it as much. If you do like 30 to 50 cycles a year, you are good to go with SLA.

  • @aldo9564
    @aldo9564 4 года назад +1

    Will, you are my Undisputed SOURCE for Electrical Knowledge ! That being said, there is So Much Info, it becomes .... (confusing). So, despite having an Extremely Limited Budget, you’ve convinced me to go Lithium.
    My Question: which of your Library of vids would be recommended for viewing to create my “Best Bang For The Buck On Limited Budget System” .... ?? Thanks so much !

  • @a64738
    @a64738 3 года назад

    You can get led AGM batteries that is rated at 1500 cycles at 1/4 the cost of Lithium here in Norway making the claims that Lithium is cheaper at least partially wrong... You can also get gel led acid type batteries for solar power that also has high rating of cycles without the 4 double cost of Lithium. The real advantage of Lithium is the low weight which is not really a issue for a battery bank in a house.

  • @13Hangfire
    @13Hangfire 7 лет назад +3

    Wow! Thanks for all of the info and links on lithium batteries. No way would I buy a lead acid battery after watching this video!

  • @EnglishbulldogMilo
    @EnglishbulldogMilo 7 лет назад

    I am planning a new van and your solar info is really helping me go a good direction that will make life much better.

  • @SOFISINTOWN
    @SOFISINTOWN 5 лет назад +2

    I listen to you kid! I learn a lot from your videos. Thank you

  • @colinoleary7814
    @colinoleary7814 7 лет назад +2

    All led batteries sealed or not give off fumes when being charged it's why they all have a vent.It's also why I always shake my head at people having these inside a van or trailer they made into an RV
    Great video

    • @WillProwse
      @WillProwse  7 лет назад +1

      very true. but the sealed ones do not gas unless they are used improperly. most rv's have battery storage areas, or plastic battery containers, that do work well. ventilation is always required

    • @ms.anonymousinformer242
      @ms.anonymousinformer242 4 года назад

      Yikes , even with ones that are made as sealed, that statement alone prompts me even more to consider lithium only.

  • @envisionelectrical3024
    @envisionelectrical3024 3 года назад

    Dude, THANK YOU, great and informative channel. Am amazed you were singing the virtues of Lithium nearly 4 years ago, well ahead of the curve.

  • @jamesroth8997
    @jamesroth8997 4 года назад +2

    FLD lead acid 99% ♻
    SEL lead acid 95% ♻
    Lithium 16% ♻ look it up on Google.

  • @davidj.gallardo4553
    @davidj.gallardo4553 3 года назад +1

    Hey Will you are a plethora or easy to understand information making it interesting and doable!!! Good job my friend!!!

  • @spudbono5747
    @spudbono5747 7 лет назад +1

    that was awesome. you have an exceptional talent for explaining this kind of stuff.

    • @WillProwse
      @WillProwse  7 лет назад

      Thanks!!

    • @philo2808
      @philo2808 7 лет назад

      Spud Bono he should be teaching at a school he seems to enjoy it.

  • @brax6036
    @brax6036 5 лет назад +2

    I've been using your book to build my new system. Thanks!

    • @brax6036
      @brax6036 3 года назад +1

      My full first name is Braxton ... nice to meet ya... good luck with your solar panel setup 👍

  • @jay-rus4437
    @jay-rus4437 3 года назад

    How does an SLA do when constantly connected to a smart charger to keep it maintained, yet the battery is rarely discharged more than 10%?
    The system is for emergency communications system. Actually uses 35ah SLA (surprisingly the 35ah batteries were less per ah than larger batteries).
    The system is predominantly used for 12-13v use, but does have a 1200w inverter connected.
    Thoughts? Will a smaller sized setup (approx 200ah total with 200w solar) be a good long term setup in this situation?
    FYI....there IS a battery management system that maintains the SLA batteries, including shutdown if voltage goes above or below as specified amount

  • @sachideshmane5088
    @sachideshmane5088 4 года назад +2

    Lead acid batteries are far more recyclable than lithium ions.

  • @bigfoot_101
    @bigfoot_101 7 лет назад

    Using my 12V/70Ah LiFeYPo4 for years. The BMS still pulls the same amount off power out as on the first day. So happy i decieded to go for Lithium

    • @WillProwse
      @WillProwse  7 лет назад +1

      +bigfoot one that is so awesome

  • @jay74950
    @jay74950 5 лет назад +3

    I really enjoy watching your videos. By the way, you’ve got really beautiful eyes! Congrats!!!

  • @egn83b
    @egn83b 7 лет назад +4

    the way to get cheap batteries go buy a hybrid pack from the salvage yard and buy a bms for the cells and then you come way cheaper even if used but off the shelf 800 to 1200 dollars is a lot of money those who are on a budget.

    • @bjnz4328
      @bjnz4328 7 лет назад

      This sounds like an awesome idea. Where do I get info on making this?

    • @egn83b
      @egn83b 7 лет назад +1

      you can buy bms modules on ebay and amazon. the hybrid battery can be had at car-part dot com at most salavge yards. before you spend money research possible configurations on the styles of battery you plan to buy.

  • @ODFGERTERS
    @ODFGERTERS 7 лет назад +1

    Someone needs to make an app for battery capacity that lets you know when it gets near the voltage you set. Just a little alarm that beeps on your phone. I'm not sure how complex that would be but I'm sure everyone that uses solar like this would get it. I'm thinking about situations were you left something on and didn't know it and this will protect your batteries.There may be some such device already. If there is please let us know. Thanks for the effort you put in.

    • @Conservator.
      @Conservator. 7 лет назад

      TheNeverendingGory A BMS will do exactly that automatically for you.

    • @ms.anonymousinformer242
      @ms.anonymousinformer242 4 года назад

      @@Conservator. what is a BMS? I have no idea what that is.

  • @agustinmorales3888
    @agustinmorales3888 6 лет назад

    You have been very helpful since the companies are ripping people off here in Puerto Rico. You should see the calamity they are creating down here. Looking forward to buy your book. Thanks.

  • @Debbzvanventure
    @Debbzvanventure 5 лет назад

    Thank for this. I've decided on investing in one Lithium vs two deep cycle.

  • @420Chooey
    @420Chooey 5 лет назад +2

    I'm running 760 watts of solar. If I had lead acid batteries I would need four 100 amp hour batteries. That would be about 400 pounds. I have two battleborn 100 amp hour lithium batteries combined weight of 60 lb. Consider that also consider the charge rate is much faster with a 40 amp charge controller these lithium batteries can be taken from 20% to 100% in about 4 hours of sunlight. That would never happen with lead acid or flooded batteries. If you take a lead acid battery down to 50% you're going to spend 8 hours with a generator trying to get him to top off

  • @AlabamaConstitutionalCrusader
    @AlabamaConstitutionalCrusader 3 года назад

    I had a 150ah Lifepo4 delivered 4 days ago and havent gotten it above 13.4 yet clouds and rain wont cut me any slack 😂

  • @freelancealchemist1904
    @freelancealchemist1904 5 лет назад +1

    What lithium Ion Battery would you recommend for home off-grid solar?

  • @ACiDGRiM
    @ACiDGRiM 2 года назад

    Deep cycle batteries maintain voltage in cold and hot environments. You can easily hook an electronic charger system to a battery bank. because of the lower cost, you can also load balance the cells.
    The only advantage of lipo batteries is weight if you are traveling, and led acid can be sourced locally without relying on the military industrial complex bombing countries for their lithium.
    Lithiums cost savings is paid for in blood.

  • @olayinkaolatunde3028
    @olayinkaolatunde3028 Год назад

    Great Video!
    Can you please do a video about Tubular vs Lithium battery for Solar System.
    Thanks

  • @tomsalzl6593
    @tomsalzl6593 2 года назад

    Heat or cold weather is the issue in the winter of say Minnesota. I’m not going to buy a subsystem to the BMS to keep them alive.

  • @GwenWittig
    @GwenWittig 7 лет назад

    great video explains in simple understandable form the huge difference between sealed lead acid and lithium..thank you

  • @flyadventurehealth
    @flyadventurehealth 6 лет назад +1

    Are you able to combine a lithium battery to a system that has lead acid batteries?

  • @neutronpcxt372
    @neutronpcxt372 6 лет назад

    Actually Will, about charging efficiency, it depends on state of charge: if you are below 50% SOC, then you get 85-90% charging efficiency, while being close to 70-80% SOC like you said, charging efficiency could drop to as much as 50-60% efficiency depending on environmental conditions.

  • @Masteradamant
    @Masteradamant 2 года назад

    I just watched a guy talk about how lead acid is more affordable but yeah... 10 lead acid deep cycle batteries are only 900 before tax while lithium tends to be around 3500 before tax so there really is a price difference there. The point you made about not allowing the batteries to fall below 70% is a strong point though; it might actually only be worth getting lead acid if that's all you could afford at the time....

  • @kathodosdotcom
    @kathodosdotcom 3 года назад +1

    As the former guru for Apple on lithium batteries myself, i see you know nothing about how actually easy it is to damage a lithium battery.

    • @WillProwse
      @WillProwse  3 года назад +3

      Do you not know what a bms is? I hope you're joking?..

    • @jeffreykoch4673
      @jeffreykoch4673 3 года назад

      @@WillProwse what is a BMS? I am not at all an expert but am under the impression that lithium batteries are pretty fragile to some things, temperature in particular.

  • @joshuagalban6472
    @joshuagalban6472 5 лет назад

    this guy is a genius and plain simple video

  • @jackcole1681
    @jackcole1681 3 года назад

    can you mix these two

  • @tikitiki7610
    @tikitiki7610 6 лет назад +9

    you are a fabulous young man with a great brain and fabulous presentation! thank you.

  • @kaywang9784
    @kaywang9784 5 лет назад +1

    Hi, Mr Will Prowse ,may I ask you about the battery bank discharging curent related the loads current

  • @evopwrmods
    @evopwrmods 6 лет назад

    I have heard that a few people are buying Used Lithium batteries for much cheaper than brand new ones. Since they have a very long life cycle is this not a sound tactic to pursue ? I am new to this Solar Power Generator and I feel that Will Prowse provides the best info of the socalled VanLife Rv Nomadic movement channels on RUclips. Thanks Will for your knowledge.

  • @KiteVanMan
    @KiteVanMan 6 лет назад +1

    Great vid thanks! I am thinking of swapping my batteries for lithium. One question, my volt meter shows me the charge level of my batteries, how do I tell the charge level of a lithium?

  • @kickinasphalt
    @kickinasphalt 7 лет назад

    A BOOK??? I need this immediately! My panels have been sitting in my living-room since November and I am finally starting to feel more confident to install. A Will Prowse solar bible to guide the way!?!?......come on dude, I gotta have it!

    • @WillProwse
      @WillProwse  7 лет назад +1

      +Kicks Tar Travel van
      I was thinking about calling it a solar bible! Haha! It will cover everything. Step by step. Much needed for vehicle dwellers. I am writing it right now and am at 50 pages :)

    • @kickinasphalt
      @kickinasphalt 7 лет назад

      High-tec and Frugal RV Travels with Will Prowse you will have much success from your book, I am certain! #EverthingIEverLearnedAboutSolar #ILearnedFromWillProwse

    • @WillProwse
      @WillProwse  7 лет назад

      Thank you!!! :)

  • @jamesdevries674
    @jamesdevries674 Год назад

    Hey guys, I have a 2000 watt jupiter modified sine wave inverter with a 4000 w peak with a 100 ah wiez gel lead acid battery. I have a 100/50 victron charge controller with 400 watts of solar. Can I exchange the 100ah lead acid battery i have,, with a 100 ah "ampere time" lithium 12 v battery? I need to know before I spend all that money. I hope it will run my 2000 watt inverter. The most I plan to use is a little 500 watt air conditioner. And I don't even have that yet, I just use 2 fans for now that use up about 100 watts continuous. Any replies would help, thanks guys! 🙏❤❤❤❤

  • @MikeandLisasExcellentAdventure
    @MikeandLisasExcellentAdventure 7 лет назад +2

    Thanks for the info. Appreciate you sharing your knowledge.

  • @innovated1234
    @innovated1234 5 лет назад +1

    Man you know your stuff! Question, will a 100w 12v panel charge a 100ah lithium battery enough to run 24/7? Im using about a 50watt appliance.
    Thanks!!

  • @malcolmnicoll1165
    @malcolmnicoll1165 6 лет назад +1

    This is great info. Thanks for sharing, Will, most appreciated.

  • @tikitiki7610
    @tikitiki7610 6 лет назад +2

    love ya love ya.....thx so much for your expertise...bought your book

  • @tcc1213
    @tcc1213 7 лет назад

    Answered many of my questions. Excellent! Much thanks.

  • @rizayulian
    @rizayulian 6 лет назад +3

    good explanation

  • @CMmuskie
    @CMmuskie 4 года назад

    I have a question. I can barley find info on this but what I do find is interesting. What I am talking about are Silicone Dioxide Batteries or lead Crystal batteries. Are these batteries a good alternative to lithium batteries at half the cost. Looking forward to hearing your prospective on this.

  • @rainlei9324
    @rainlei9324 Год назад

    i’m so new to all these concepts but i heard about explosions with lithium - from cell phones to electric bikes to teslas - you didn’t speak to safety issues at all- is there a video you have or can do for that? including. how to avoid it - im terrified now of having it in my car while i’m in the car or whatever but is it only potentially dangerous when it’s charging?
    i love your videos - you’re my top two favorite on this subject

  • @MikeMcQueen2012
    @MikeMcQueen2012 3 года назад

    I’m SO THANKFUL for your inspirations and contributions to the advances in learning solar and battery building. But,,,, Your book is outdated and you don’t disable videos that are outdated. The latest and best advances in solar design are currently dependent on LIPO batteries - LEAD IS DEAD! I love and respect you so much - Please retire these outdated videos so us “Newbies” don’t get mislead into learning outdated information. It’s already hard to figure out and we need someone we can TRUST to keep the most current info available. Remember, I love and respect you and appreciate all you’ve taught me already.

  • @EAGLE-SAN
    @EAGLE-SAN Год назад

    I JUST BOUGHT A 100AH LITHIUM FOR MY SOLAR -OFF-GRID SYSTEM TO RUN MY 12 VOLT FRIDGE/FREEZER THAT I WILL HOOK UP TO 3-100 WATT PANELS, JUST FOR THE FRIDGE.. I HAVE ANOTHER TWO SYSTEMS WITH LEAD ACID POWER SOURCES- BUT IT IS TIME FOR A CHANGE!!!- TO LITHIUM. NOW, DO YOU STILL NEED A CHARGE CONTROLLER ON EACH APPLICATION- SOLAR TO BATTERY? INSIDE THE HOME OR OUT-SIDE- BATTERY? THANKS FOR THE INFO..I SUBSCRIBED, NOTIFY ME WHEN YOUR BOOK IS OUT TO US OFF-GRIDDERS!!!! EAGLE-SAN IN CO.

  • @mattcarber6194
    @mattcarber6194 7 лет назад +7

    How does this guy not have more views or subscribers?! what the hell?

    • @philo2808
      @philo2808 7 лет назад +3

      Matt Carber I know will is great and he's not an ebegger like nomadic fanatic. yet nomadic fanatic has a zillion viewers.

    • @SuperDeut4
      @SuperDeut4 5 лет назад

      Phil O Ok.. So there are a zillion idiots out htere! Lol!

  • @milliegravelpitt8256
    @milliegravelpitt8256 7 лет назад

    Great informative video, thank you for all your time and effort to make these for us!
    Oh, and I love the shirt!

  • @Hundert1
    @Hundert1 6 лет назад

    Ok, I paid 150 dollars for my new Trojan 6 volt, T-145 flooded battery. Got to shop around. Got em in Michigan. I got two for my travel trailer and wired as one 12 volt battery. What's the cost for equivalent Lithium ion ones? What's the best brand to get? GreenLife, NextGen, or EarthX ??. I always thought Lithium ion batteries were better. Sealed lead acid batteries are ancient technology. Got lithiums with my Ego brand blowers. Ego company in Michigan. Another important topic is the clear, non- metal propane tanks for RVs. Thx

  • @carlitos11693
    @carlitos11693 3 года назад

    Thanks for the video. I got my hands on some (6) used 12v 18ah 13amp batteries along with two of the same but 26 amps. I want to use them to test backup lights and stuff. Any amazon 12 volt charger will do?

  • @age_of_reason
    @age_of_reason 7 лет назад +1

    Excellent video. Keep em coming.

  • @wildone2163
    @wildone2163 4 года назад

    how about lithium sucks and low temps and high temps? had them on my bike and winter they're no go.

  • @johnpuccetti9383
    @johnpuccetti9383 6 лет назад +3

    A lot of good information.

  • @CD-hc5ds
    @CD-hc5ds 3 года назад

    I'm Clueless to this stuff.
    Have a 16" Starcraft, we spent 2-5 days in the middle of nowhere (led lights, camera/raidios charging & a propane heater fan) is about all we use. Can a Lithium Battery just be dropped in to replace a Led Acid? or is there other changes to be made?
    The current batt. is charged when the trailer is plugged in or when portable solar is connected to it.

  • @12vLife
    @12vLife 5 лет назад

    I have 100 watt 12v solar panel on the roof of my van I would like to charge a 50AH Lithium with that puts out about 5a in direct sunlight. I need to use the battery for about 3a 12v during the day and about 2a 12v (10pm to 6a) at night. I also have a 12v cigarette lighter socket in the back of my van that is only on while I drive I would also like to charge this with. What do i need to smart charge a battery like this from BOTH of these sources without needing a manual switch? And while asking, is it possible to charge a bettary like this directly from a car alternator? If so, how?

  • @k9forkids
    @k9forkids 7 лет назад

    I'm interested in buying an old Tesla S Battery Module, they sell on eBay for around $1300 and are 250ah and 5KW worth of energy. I need to figure out how to wire one up.

  • @ActivateTrueHealth
    @ActivateTrueHealth 2 года назад

    This was 4 years ago and many people are still stuck in lead acid world!

  • @wes7195
    @wes7195 7 лет назад

    Thank you for the information! I look forward to your upcoming book.

    • @WillProwse
      @WillProwse  7 лет назад

      +Wes thanks man! And sure thing :)

  • @joepphoto
    @joepphoto 6 лет назад

    Hi Will, interesting video. I came here to determine if I should put a lead acid or Lithium battery in my campervan for my solar charging. You convinced me to buy a lithium allready but i was just wandering how sensitive are the lithium batteries to overheating. I'm asking because i have a black van and we'll probably be driving through hot environments to. Thanks!

  • @giottodiotto1
    @giottodiotto1 7 лет назад +2

    good Sales Pitch!
    remember: "Lead is Dead"

  • @naimasrael6829
    @naimasrael6829 6 лет назад

    Very informative... I share it with anyone that may be a bit confused when it comes to Lead acid vS Lithium iron phosphate batteries. IAm waiting and hoping lithium iron battery prices drop dramatically by next summer... don't need it now... Thankhz so much for sharing Will... Wholeness n Love ((-;

  • @ruckuss12000
    @ruckuss12000 6 лет назад +1

    Hey Will can you make a suggestion as to which would be the best lithium batteries to purchase for a solar system which gives the best value for dollars spent ?

    • @WillProwse
      @WillProwse  6 лет назад

      +ruckuss12000 ruckuss currently if you want a drop in replacement, battle born is best price for lithium iron phosphate. There are other options, but battle born has great safety features and just works. I have them on my website

    • @BriggsandStrattonEnergy
      @BriggsandStrattonEnergy 6 лет назад

      SimpliPhi’s batteries offer the lowest levelized cost of energy (price per kWh) due to 98% efficiency, no cobalt, high depth of discharge, 10k cycles or 10 year warranty. For info on where to buy: simpliphipower.com/where-to-buy/. We have been around since 2002 & have outperformed the US Marine Corps’ battery tests. Deployed in 22+ countries to date. Since we don’t use cobalt, our batteries are some of the safest, most efficient batteries on the market. No additional costs to prevent thermal runaway or fire (associated with cobalt, which we don’t use, unlike LG Chem & Tesla) such as cooling or ventilation systems. We keep it simple, safe & efficient. :-)

  • @KiteVanMan
    @KiteVanMan 6 лет назад

    Oh also can I still use a Lithium with my VSR split charger? I am thinking with the volts not dropping it may not disconnect from the van battery? Cheers dude

  • @musmustafa7900
    @musmustafa7900 6 лет назад

    Nice video. Do you know the difference of their charging time as i didn't hear you mention it? Which has the faster charge time?
    Peace!

  • @elijahaugust3508
    @elijahaugust3508 3 года назад

    I have followed you for a few years now, I have several lithium all in one systems (Bluetti 150) but I would like to know what AGM deep cycle battery do you recommend ???

  • @honestjobslave1122
    @honestjobslave1122 6 лет назад

    great info. thanks a lot by the way, i need to know where to find a tesla battery solar charger tracker 5 there old web site does not operate u have any suggestions.

  • @jodeluna62
    @jodeluna62 5 лет назад

    Great To Know About The Comparison Of Lead Acid To Lithium Ion Batteries! The Only Drawback I See Is The Temperature Sensitivity Of The Lithium Battery. Otherwise Lithium Is The Way To Go! Question! When Will The Price Go Down For Lithium Batteries So It Will Be Economical For The Joe Blow Consumer Such As Myself? Otherwise Great Video!

  • @DarronRansbarger
    @DarronRansbarger 3 года назад

    Hey, Will (or anyone knowledgeable), how can you determine the maximum discharge rate of any of these batteries (lead acid or lithium ion)? You talked about it at 3:20. I have been unable to find that info. I want to know what I can safely run off my RV batteries. Thanks!

  • @tikitiki7610
    @tikitiki7610 6 лет назад

    Hello, Will! you are great!!!!! glad you are out there. I might at some point actually sort of maybe maybe, understand about 10%. ha! I AM GOING TO EHRENBERG IN A MONTH OR SO SO I HAVE AQUESTION: i WANT TO USE ELECTRIC SKILLET AND COFFEE MAKER, (I.E. ALL ELECTRIC) 5K AIR CONDITIONING UNIT.....HOW MUCH DO I NEED IN SOLAR, BATTERIES, ETC? THX, TIKI AND ANYTHING ELSE YOU CAN ANSWER THAT I DON'T HAVE THE SENSE TO ASK.

  • @kenmackenzie7338
    @kenmackenzie7338 4 года назад

    Love the new house. Could you do a comparason between lithium and lead carbon
    batteries? Look forward to your next vlog

  • @ericalejandro6866
    @ericalejandro6866 5 лет назад

    can you hook up lithium battery to the Kodiak?? any problems?

  • @CristianSpitz
    @CristianSpitz 3 года назад

    lithium ion battery + American wooden house = LOVE
    Lead acid batteries are recomended by your local Fire department, just ask yourself why no medical apparatus have Lithium batteries??????

  • @nomadrvmontreal2733
    @nomadrvmontreal2733 6 лет назад

    Hey, do you know any real comparaison test, live, made on a lithium VS lead acid ? Thanks !

  • @thomasrahill8286
    @thomasrahill8286 7 лет назад

    Hey dude this is gonna sound weird but it'd be cool to see a model train system installed going around the whole RV like above head height

  • @bruceforster3709
    @bruceforster3709 6 лет назад

    I have a pair of Bioenno 12 Volt 15 Amp batteries I use for field ops. I tested a Goal Zero Lite a Life 350 L.E.D. light. It ran safely for 40 Hours! Then it happened. The BMS system in the battery kicked in. You see, what happened is the Lithium Iron phosphate will chug along at maximum capacity until it is almost out, and then it crashes-HARD! At that point, its BMS kicked in and shut off the power to my light in order to protect the battery. I was very nervous, but the charger I bought for it DID do its job. The battery seems to be fine. I know from PERSONAL EXPERIENCE when one time I was running the same light with a 20 Amp SLA Battery-I got distracted with a little family emergency, and forgot about the battery. The light ran it completely down to 8 volts; And the SLA battery was DONE! I could not recover it.The BMS in my Lithium battery PREVENTED the same thing from happening there.

    • @WillProwse
      @WillProwse  6 лет назад

      +Bruce Forster yeah exactly. Just mentioned that in the last comment. Check it out

  • @jeffrey3498
    @jeffrey3498 6 лет назад

    You're pushing us into the future.