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  • Опубликовано: 29 окт 2024

Комментарии • 159

  • @devilincarnarion
    @devilincarnarion 5 лет назад +19

    Finally, I have been struggling against penhold this past month. Thanks

  • @jghfk137
    @jghfk137 5 лет назад +6

    pivoting in the backhand corner is usually the go-to strategy for forhand dominant penholders as you can get the hardest shots from there because you can step around the table with your left leg. you also play a lot of angles between inside-out and down the line. so be careful with just simply playing into the backhand corner a lot.

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

    • @jakekellie2432
      @jakekellie2432 3 года назад

      Just summed my penhold game up pretty quick, until I taught myself an rpb

  • @jeanbalthazar8014
    @jeanbalthazar8014 5 лет назад +3

    Thanks for this Christmas gift and happy holidays to the both of you.

  • @doublea1753
    @doublea1753 5 лет назад +13

    Hey pingskills can you make a video on how to counter overspin serves,i have trouble countering my opponent's cut-overspin variation.😊😊 thank you

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад +2

      Returning serves can be difficult as servers can make 2 different serves look similar. That's why it's important to understand the principles of returning serve rather than just having one video on how to return a particular serve. Take a look at these tutorials for more help: www.pingskills.com/categories/serving-and-receiving
      Good luck!

  • @DesertStarr
    @DesertStarr 5 лет назад +5

    As RPB player fast center mass shots when im at the table are indeed troublesome, but if im anywhere remotely back from the table; That becomes a easy pivot return drive. So his advice is accurate in a sense but if anyone watching this is relying on that in all situations you might find yourself being counter productive by just hitting the ball directly at the player.

    • @hugh2hoob668
      @hugh2hoob668 5 лет назад

      I pull up if its in the center I had a pull up slam its pretty effective

    • @hugh2hoob668
      @hugh2hoob668 5 лет назад

      Like a paint brush stroke from your crotch area lol

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад +1

      Thanks for sharing your experiences.

  • @evansokolson9221
    @evansokolson9221 5 лет назад +4

    Thank you for the tips! My friend plays penhold and up until now the only way I could counter him was by playing penhold myself

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад

      Great. Let us know if these tips help next time you play him.

  • @7xmzz
    @7xmzz 5 лет назад +3

    Good to see u back!

  • @empireentertainmentevents1353
    @empireentertainmentevents1353 5 лет назад +12

    I have a friend who plays JPEN style. Players will keep on attacking his BH side...only to be thrown off guard most of the time cos his BH is very strong. LOL! yes, JPEN players with strong BH do exist!

    • @benedictifransis7183
      @benedictifransis7183 4 года назад +2

      exactly, u can understand now in the past penholders ruled the world, theorically bh is their weakness, but in real play most penholders have a very good push/chop block plus amazing footwork to compesate

  • @alfie5202
    @alfie5202 5 лет назад +3

    Glad your back

  • @gmsleepless6530
    @gmsleepless6530 5 лет назад +5

    Make more often Videos please! Thank you!

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад +2

      Have you watched all of our videos yet? www.pingskills.com/tutorials

  • @nichoIas_
    @nichoIas_ 5 лет назад +5

    What do you think of the stiga evolution bat?
    I've just started playing table tennis so is it good for me?

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад +1

      I haven't tried it myself but Stiga is a reputable brand. It sounds like it would be a good choice.

  • @malongsserve4735
    @malongsserve4735 5 лет назад +4

    I don't think spinny loops are a weakness, I as a penhold player really like to do a touch shot when someone does a spinny loop. That really helps me set it up

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад

      It's great to hear that you can deal with these easily. Keep up the good work.

  • @ttjesus4959
    @ttjesus4959 4 года назад +4

    Just fyi: I still don't have a crossover point because I can still hit a traditional backhand any time I need to. You cannot jam me. Just saying

  • @hugh2hoob668
    @hugh2hoob668 5 лет назад +7

    Ever been to SPIN in new York ?
    Perhaps time for a road trip lol

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад +1

      Yeah I've been there once a few years back. It's a great place to visit when you're in NY.

  • @arijitsinha7125
    @arijitsinha7125 4 года назад +1

    thanks.. really helpful

  • @HarryWizard
    @HarryWizard 5 лет назад +2

    Hey just wondering if there are any new videos coming out? I love this channel and almost forgot it existed because its been so long, thanks.

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад +2

      Yes it has been a while. Do you have any particular videos you'd like to see?

    • @HarryWizard
      @HarryWizard 5 лет назад +1

      @@pingskills Nothing really, but any coaching from you helps. You are so well spoken in your videos.

  • @lc6705
    @lc6705 5 лет назад +3

    will you guys ever make more penhold videos? there arent enough online

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад +2

      It's difficult for us since we aren't penhold players ourselves.

  • @prashantvashisht9084
    @prashantvashisht9084 5 лет назад +3

    One problem ,when I play penhold I always lose control and the bat falls out of my hand btw Alois Rosario,hats off to you

  • @arijitsinha7125
    @arijitsinha7125 4 года назад +1

    please make a video against longpips antispin and short pips users

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  4 года назад

      We have some videos on these topics. Check out the following tutorials to see if they help: www.pingskills.com/tutorials/playing-against-series
      Good luck!

  • @Hin-yi6gw
    @Hin-yi6gw 5 лет назад

    single sided penhold backhand can do deadly attacks from mid/far from the table, but the critical thing is the close to the table game.
    Counter heavy topspin close to the table is the something every single sided penholder would struggle with.

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад

      Thanks for sharing your experiences.

  • @madhavved2875
    @madhavved2875 5 лет назад +1

    PenHold players have a great advantage. Like XuXin nobody would believe that he has a bad backhand. And he's also able to cover entire area by merely jumping around so easily. No wonder they call him a cloudwalker!

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад +1

      Xu Xin has amazing footwork!

    • @hanshuang6438
      @hanshuang6438 5 лет назад +2

      A lot of Korean JPEN players from last centre(when RBP was not widely used) used fantastic footwork to cover their weakness of backhand. Kim Taek Soo should be the best one.

  • @stephenphoenix-roberts9447
    @stephenphoenix-roberts9447 5 лет назад +2

    I not lose to a penhold player yet. I find u have to vary the pace if a penhold player can get into the rally there very good at wide blocks so I vary the pace and start with a backside spin serves so the it stops them flicking it wide on the second ball.

  • @mehmoodwattoo2153
    @mehmoodwattoo2153 3 года назад

    Suggest me best channel for penhold skills

  • @pettertufte3605
    @pettertufte3605 5 лет назад +1

    I have a question. Me an my friend have got new rackets which has a lot of spin. I usually play defensive and now when im returning smashes i return them so high. I was wondering how i can return them to go a little bit lower

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад +1

      Great question. Take a look at this video and let me know if it helps: www.pingskills.com/tutorials/intermediate-strokes/backhand-block
      You can always leave a comment on that video if you have more questions. Good luck!

    • @grustache4569
      @grustache4569 4 года назад

      petter tufte if you return them high practice putting down spin on the ball.

  • @tevtev6227
    @tevtev6227 5 лет назад +8

    Alois... man up and verse Jeff ;)

  • @henrychien1979
    @henrychien1979 5 лет назад

    I have a question. Currently I know how to serve with different spin, how to push, how to attack, etc, but I haven’t trained before. Does what racket and rubber I use make a big difference? What racket and rubber would you recommend for people who have been playing for some time like me? I’m a traditional penholder(use only one side of racket).

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад

      Yes, the type of bat you are using does make a big difference. Take a look at this video and let me know if it helps: www.pingskills.com/tutorials/choosing-equipment/choosing-a-table-tennis-bat

    • @henrychien1979
      @henrychien1979 5 лет назад

      @@pingskills Great! It really helped me out. I have another question though. I'm a penhold player, so will the rubber fit on my blade? What blade(wood) should I use?

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад

      When you buy rubbers they come in a square shape so you can cut them out to fit your blade. Take a look at this video for an example of what I am talking about: www.pingskills.com/tutorials/care-of-your-equipment/replacing-your-rubber

  • @KNGexp
    @KNGexp 2 года назад +1

    Team Penhold

  • @austinbecker5151
    @austinbecker5151 5 лет назад

    What's the best way to clean inverted rubber? I find that when I use microfiber or any other cloth with water, the cloth will still put a little bit of dust on the rubber. Thanks in advance!

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад

      I think what you are doing is fine. If there is a little bit of dust it shouldn't affect the performance, and if you wipe the rubber clean it shouldn't leave too much dust.

  • @pique3124
    @pique3124 5 лет назад +1

    As a RPB penhold player, the only thing I really struggle with is pacing myself during longer rallies, especially against choppers

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад

      Thanks for sharing your experiences.

    • @benedictifransis7183
      @benedictifransis7183 5 лет назад

      same goes here buddy, but i learn to watch the spins and ball position when returned, as we have to be patience against defender and wait to attack when the ball is floaty or has little amouny of back spin

  • @bassam_turkistani
    @bassam_turkistani 5 лет назад

    i have a question
    i hold my bat very differently
    so should i stop my way of holding the bat to the way everybody does ?
    please i want an answer

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад

      I would suggest that using a standard grip is best. The standard grips allow you to develop all the strokes the top players can play. However I haven't seen your grip so if you really believe it is better for some reason then maybe it's OK. However as a general guide I'd recommend nearly all players to use either the shakehand or penhold grips.

  • @evansokolson9221
    @evansokolson9221 5 лет назад

    Hey Alois! What kind of table do you guys have? I was considering buying one

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад

      Here's some advice that might help you: www.pingskills.com/tutorials/choosing-equipment/choosing-a-table-tennis-table

    • @evansokolson9221
      @evansokolson9221 5 лет назад

      PingSkills thanks!

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад

      You're welcome. Good luck with your search.

  • @torexu6616
    @torexu6616 5 лет назад +1

    I have question i want to be a defender and my question is , should i learn top spin or some attacking shot?
    And when can i learn chop or etc

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад +2

      Yes, you can still learn to attack with topspin. Being a defender doesn't mean you have to defend every ball so it is still a good skill to learn. You can start learning how to chop straight away. Take a look at our website to learn all the strokes and techniques. Good luck!

    • @stephenphoenix-roberts9447
      @stephenphoenix-roberts9447 5 лет назад +1

      Yes if u can attack the odd ball it really upsets a attacking player look at jo c huk.

  • @srikanth-sf3ng
    @srikanth-sf3ng 5 лет назад

    Hi... brother. I am from India. Thanks for your videos.. please suggest a link to buy a best table tennis bat... thank you. Have a nice day.

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад

      Here is a tutorial on how to choose a bat: www.pingskills.com/tutorials/choosing-equipment/choosing-a-table-tennis-bat
      There are so many different options and it is a personal choice. Good luck!

  • @sharanalutchman23
    @sharanalutchman23 5 лет назад

    Hi Ping Skills, I am new in your channel and I am a beginner in Table Tennis and I need a lot of practice and concentration and I need to improve in my footwork and getting behind the ball.
    Any tips or advice that I can improve? ?

    • @PingSkillsFrench
      @PingSkillsFrench 5 лет назад

      Hi Sharana, Welcome... We have a section on our website (www.pingskills.com/categories/strokes-and-techniques) that will show you a lot about these topics. You can go to the Strokes and Techniques section on the site and explore there.

    • @sharanalutchman23
      @sharanalutchman23 5 лет назад

      @@PingSkillsFrench Thank you very much Alois. I am in a table tennis club and to be honest I am very slow in the warm ups and I get too tired easily. Is there a way to fix it so I can keep up because I am the only female in the table tennis club at school??

    • @PingSkillsFrench
      @PingSkillsFrench 5 лет назад

      @@sharanalutchman23You will find by playing regularly you will start to get used to playing for longer. Keep it up.

    • @sharanalutchman23
      @sharanalutchman23 5 лет назад

      @@PingSkillsFrench Thank you very much and if there is any problems, I will tell you. Thanks Very Much Mr. Alois!!!!

    • @stephenphoenix-roberts9447
      @stephenphoenix-roberts9447 5 лет назад

      Sharana Lutchman fund a good practice partner that can help you learn the shots you want to learn but will not try to play match points against you all the time.

  • @uttamsharma3054
    @uttamsharma3054 5 лет назад +2

    I have space between my rubbers and handle it really effects or not

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад

      No it does not affect too much. It is just a personal preference for penhold players.

    • @nairapapiashvili6431
      @nairapapiashvili6431 5 лет назад

      My opinion. If you're sweating then u need space. Without it u cant hit the ball stronger

  • @johnmuller7631
    @johnmuller7631 5 лет назад

    Where can we get good custom paddles? Any recommendations??

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад

      We have a limited range :) www.pingskills.com/table-tennis-store/pingskills-touch
      Other than that there are some other good online stores but I don't have any specific recommendations. If you have a table tennis club near you then they often sell equipment and are a great place to get more involved with the sport.

  • @eczavyr2899
    @eczavyr2899 5 лет назад +1

    Hey Alois are you the person commentating on the newest Asian Cup Tournament? :P

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад

      Alois did some commentary recently at the tournament in Japan so that may have been him. Do you have a link to a video and I can let you know for sure. Or if you ask a question on the PingSkills website he will answer for you - www.pingskills.com/table-tennis-forum/ask
      Cheers,
      Jeff.

  • @timhunger4180
    @timhunger4180 5 лет назад

    @PingSkills I can't decide if I should play penhold or shakehand. What should I do?

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад

      It doesn't really matter as both are good. Do you have any preference at all? Who is your favourite player?

    • @timhunger4180
      @timhunger4180 5 лет назад

      +PingSkills my favourite player is Liu Guoliang.

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад +1

      Then maybe go with penhold?

  • @hemanthkongara5809
    @hemanthkongara5809 5 лет назад

    To which position of table should we return a short back hand serve?

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад

      It's up to you. Try to find where your opponent least likes the return to go, and then play to that spot more often.

  • @Serkan_keskin_matematik
    @Serkan_keskin_matematik 2 года назад

    I am a Reverse Penholder for 3 years. İn this style, bachand defense is a little hard. So, one year ago in my first national toutnament, I hate it. All opponents plays to my backhand amd I moved a lot to receive the balls. And I though to chabge my style to shakehand but I really love this style. I can serve very strong, ı deal with soft touch very easly etc. However, I trust my bachkand shots than forehand shots. Those are very strong and most of times problem for my opponents. After a few years, I go on with penhold and I dont think to leave this style.

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  2 года назад

      Thanks for sharing your story.

  • @hugh2hoob668
    @hugh2hoob668 5 лет назад

    And for my slams I'd pull *UP* I had a weird style of play
    Not quiet shakehold not quiet pen hold
    And I could play both just a basement player with some club level success
    But my pals and I were decent

  • @scarmiz9005
    @scarmiz9005 5 лет назад +2

    I need help I started ping pong 2 months ago I’m kind of decent but I only use backhand and I’m a back hand player and can u make video or reply about how to use ur forehand more

  • @artyrandom5904
    @artyrandom5904 5 лет назад +1

    Do you guys still play at MSAC?

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад +2

      Not very often. Do you play there?

    • @artyrandom5904
      @artyrandom5904 5 лет назад

      PingSkills yeah I play a yearly comp with my school there, where do u guys play?

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад

      No where in particular these days :)

  • @hugh2hoob668
    @hugh2hoob668 5 лет назад +1

    Can you do a uncanny strokes clip? That be cool

  • @readisgooddewaterkant7890
    @readisgooddewaterkant7890 5 лет назад

    More videos with playing as
    You have done playing as chopper
    An idea is playing as defender or playing as backhand domminant.

  • @hugh2hoob668
    @hugh2hoob668 5 лет назад

    Alois if it was in the middle I'd pull UP had a cool mantis hand mid table slam it worked on center shots
    paddle facing completely down

  • @TIEWCINDY
    @TIEWCINDY 5 лет назад

    Are you guys gonna do another ask the coach show in the future?

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад

      We probably will :)

    • @TIEWCINDY
      @TIEWCINDY 5 лет назад

      Btw jeff, do you have any idea why alois is scared to play you?

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад

      @@TIEWCINDY haha, it's just a joke really. Since we don't play competitively anymore it's not something we really want to do. I just say he's scared to play me because he knows he'll lose :)

    • @TIEWCINDY
      @TIEWCINDY 5 лет назад

      @@pingskills Ok.
      i saw the video where alois was against an Italian,is there a video of the full Match?

    • @notgonnahappen
      @notgonnahappen 5 лет назад

      @@TIEWCINDY Not that I'm aware of unfortunately.

  • @aimsmoin1214
    @aimsmoin1214 5 лет назад

    can i return all types of serve using backhand flick ?

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад +1

      Heavy backspin serves are difficult to return with the backhand flick.

    • @aimsmoin1214
      @aimsmoin1214 5 лет назад +1

      @@pingskills Thanks for help

  • @chenhongchien7586
    @chenhongchien7586 5 лет назад +2

    Im a penhold user and my classmates uses standard grips. They always try my style but theyre having hars time hahaha

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад

      Good to hear you've got the edge over them :)

    • @grustache4569
      @grustache4569 4 года назад

      ChengHong Chien same lol it works so well

  • @torexu6616
    @torexu6616 5 лет назад +3

    Could you make a video from defensive style?(cut type)

  • @JeriemiaReyes
    @JeriemiaReyes 4 месяца назад

    So what if they can use both? If they use both back hands how

  • @sharanalutchman23
    @sharanalutchman23 5 лет назад +1

    and I also need to do my strokes properly.

  • @mallythelegend8585
    @mallythelegend8585 5 лет назад

    With regular pen grip backhand attack is easy

  • @7xmzz
    @7xmzz 5 лет назад +1

    Hello!

  • @insearchofgold3430
    @insearchofgold3430 4 года назад

    This video doesn't apply to people who uses both RPB and TPB and constantly changes their penhold grip type in a game/rally
    I hate those players, because you don't know which grip they use,
    Then if they have good reaction and footwork, you'll get TPB Smash

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  4 года назад

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

  • @Finnv893
    @Finnv893 Год назад

    Really, the popularity and tactical exploitation of C-pen is PARTLY at the mercy of contemporary understanding and concept interpretation of the game by the coaching staff/culture of CNT, which is very "clan-like" in nature( the "Liu Guo Liang" Clan rofl) but not without reason - Dominance will simply encourage a cycle of lessening vatieries in style and pursuit of one-for-all doctrines aka meta-chasing; on the other hand for example Japanese players are very unique individually, partly by necessities of asymmetric warfare.

  • @MechiDome
    @MechiDome 5 лет назад +6

    What’s funny is that I am a penhold player🤣

    • @coolcraft24
      @coolcraft24 5 лет назад +2

      Me too, and i am not Chinese

  • @prashantvashisht9084
    @prashantvashisht9084 5 лет назад +2

    Man U are awesome plz be my tt teacher mr Rosario

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад +1

      We love helping people through our website: www.pingskills.com/

  • @mattiaskaus2058
    @mattiaskaus2058 5 лет назад

    Whose point is this if you smash into net but it goes over the net

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад

      In the rally if the ball hits the net it is play on. So if your opponent hits the net and then it lands on your side you must get the ball back or you lose the point.

  • @inspeedwetrust.6575
    @inspeedwetrust.6575 5 лет назад

    i want to build a racket under the budget of 4000 rupees please help me.

  • @Blue-vs8xp
    @Blue-vs8xp 4 года назад +1

    *watches this video*
    *thinks can beat the chinese national team now*

  • @jordiadityaersaputra8353
    @jordiadityaersaputra8353 5 лет назад

    How to banana flick with long pimple. Pls make an video thanks

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад

      You can't really do the banana flick with long pimples because you can't generate your own spin with them.

    • @jordiadityaersaputra8353
      @jordiadityaersaputra8353 5 лет назад

      Ok

  • @readisgooddewaterkant7890
    @readisgooddewaterkant7890 5 лет назад

    When comes a new vid

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад

      Good question. We've made a lot of videos. Is there anything in particular you'd like to see in a new video?

  • @manpreetsalana6651
    @manpreetsalana6651 5 лет назад

    How to return a spining balll????

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад

      One way is to angle your bat to counteract the spin. We have a series of tutorials on serving and receiving serve that may help you: www.pingskills.com/categories/serving-and-receiving
      Good luck!

  • @dericflairmultiverse4952
    @dericflairmultiverse4952 3 года назад

    lmao can't do this in Eleven VR Table Tennis

  • @tomohari4114
    @tomohari4114 5 лет назад

    Why pro players switching racket in the rob

  • @MegaKash786
    @MegaKash786 5 лет назад

    1

  • @hugh2hoob668
    @hugh2hoob668 5 лет назад

    I used to play both switch in mid game lol

    • @DesertStarr
      @DesertStarr 5 лет назад

      is that legal? because i play both also. Bu ti haven't played tournaments yet.

    • @hugh2hoob668
      @hugh2hoob668 5 лет назад

      @@DesertStarr
      Our college tournament was pretty legit 6 inches outta the hand serve rules but they were lax on that it wasn't like the Olympics lol

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 лет назад

      It is legal.

  • @jagdevthakur5142
    @jagdevthakur5142 5 лет назад +1

    Please can you upload a video in Hindi please. Because I am from India. thank u

  • @alfie5202
    @alfie5202 5 лет назад

    I'm first

    • @MegaKash786
      @MegaKash786 5 лет назад

      Alfie_ 0705 no i am check earlies