Fighter Pilot vs DCS Developer | High Aspect BFM Setups (Ft. Wags) Part ONE

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  • Опубликовано: 11 авг 2019
  • Wags and I went out on a 1 v 1 (Hornet vs. F-5) to demonstrate high aspect basic fighter maneuver setups and fights. Part one includes the full brief and flight. Stay tuned for Part TWO with a Tacview debrief and fight analysis.
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  • @brucehearn2621
    @brucehearn2621 4 года назад +403

    Linebacker: "What's your fuel state, Ralfi?"
    Ralfidude: "Master caution."

    • @CWLemoine
      @CWLemoine  4 года назад +89

      😂🤣 That's funny!

    • @martijn9568
      @martijn9568 4 года назад +12

      Dcs in a nutshell

    • @rampantcoyote3136
      @rampantcoyote3136 4 года назад +7

      @@CWLemoine If you haven't seen it... ruclips.net/video/97bkhlXT5R0/видео.html

    • @schweizerluchs7146
      @schweizerluchs7146 4 года назад +1

      😂

    • @schweizerluchs7146
      @schweizerluchs7146 4 года назад +1

      I actually saw that already in the comments under a A-10c Video

  • @Tomartyr
    @Tomartyr 4 года назад +534

    You know you're a nerd when you've spent 30 minutes watching two guys do simulated dogfights inside a simulation.

    • @Saltee323
      @Saltee323 4 года назад +20

      Yea, but one of them is a real fighter pilot so it's okay then.

    • @anthonyvanbohemen
      @anthonyvanbohemen 4 года назад +2

      yeah wtf but so interesting!

    • @Idontbelievethehype2
      @Idontbelievethehype2 4 года назад +6

      At least it's not Overwatch or Starcraft. I forgive myself and everybody else.

    • @RicCrouch
      @RicCrouch 4 года назад +10

      No, you're a nerd when you spend 30 minutes watching the video of the simulated debrief of the simulated battle flown in a simulator. :)

    • @jakesigalmix
      @jakesigalmix 4 года назад +1

      But in our defense, this is a fabulous chance to learn from the best. I wanna step up my game in the F-18.

  • @Revi0us
    @Revi0us 4 года назад +129

    Mover reviewing his own content: "This isn't realistic at all, you don't have the briefing on the runway"

    • @CWLemoine
      @CWLemoine  4 года назад +86

      It’s CGI! 😂

    • @Revi0us
      @Revi0us 4 года назад +18

      @@CWLemoine Hahaha just giving you shit, bud. Loved the Battlefield critique. Your expertise is refreshing in the ongoing age of exaggeration in media

    • @TheVleckChannel
      @TheVleckChannel 3 года назад

      Fortunately this doesn’t feature staring up your pilot’s ass like Battlefield 3’s.

    • @acromatic0189
      @acromatic0189 3 года назад +6

      Mover ruins Mover

  • @IkeThe9th
    @IkeThe9th 4 года назад +103

    Hey Mover - from us DCS fans, thanks to you and others that got to do this for real - for both your service AND for being such a good sport in “slumming it” :) with us wannabes.
    It doesn’t go unnoticed and we really appreciate it. Donation to FoH enroute.

  • @thedogeruler2271
    @thedogeruler2271 4 года назад +224

    “Hey everyone, Wags here from Eagle Dynamics”

    • @ToddDtown25
      @ToddDtown25 4 года назад +4

      lmao.... first thing that popped in my head

  • @Void304
    @Void304 4 года назад +2

    It was really cool of you to volunteer your time and do this. I've played DCS for years and I still feel like I've learned something.
    Definitely looking forward to more.

  • @skipker
    @skipker Год назад +1

    OMG, Mover your knowledge on dog fighting, fighter pilot, and flying in general is amazing. My love of aviation has been my life for 60 years. I got my private license way back when, but due to life, I couldn't continue to get tickets. Now that I had open heart surgery and am now a pacemaker, I'm grounded. I live your channel and never miss your videos. Watching this video was a learning experience for me. I'm going to upgrade my computer to support the dcs, Microsoft flight simulators, etc. Keep up your great channel.
    Corvette awesome

  • @simonliin
    @simonliin 4 года назад +1

    Really love this Mover. Thx a lot for sharing!! We are a lot of people in the DCS community who love to dig into this 'professionally', but only very few are lucky enough to train with you guys. So, really appreciate it!! Thx again.

  • @Braeden123698745
    @Braeden123698745 4 года назад +97

    Haha not the typical ultra-calm Wags voice this time

    • @lh7801
      @lh7801 4 года назад +3

      He was literally totally calm and chill the whole time. Nice try you silly little bullshitter you

  • @johnp2110
    @johnp2110 4 года назад +2

    Awesome video. Very cool to get a small look into what flying fighters would really be like. That pre-flight brief made me imagine I was really about to go on a training flight.

  • @HEATER_
    @HEATER_ 4 года назад +1

    Dang Mover, that was Sierra Hotel! I’m so glad to see your involvement in DCS! Thanks to you and Wags for a great video! So cool!

  • @andresgarcia7757
    @andresgarcia7757 4 года назад +2

    Mover! That video is awesome! I love how easy you made it look while doing the damage check and landing! Wags is such a professional.

  • @RobertBrusOfficial
    @RobertBrusOfficial 4 года назад +36

    Dam, best DCS video ever! Nice one lads.

  • @DanBlake3rd
    @DanBlake3rd 4 года назад +1

    That was excellent guys. Thanks for taking the time to do it right and explain the process. Very much had the teacher / student feel, which indeed it was :))

  • @norwaynate
    @norwaynate 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for this Mover and Wags! Very educational. Cheers!

  • @rodneyevans5731
    @rodneyevans5731 3 года назад

    Excellent video!! Thank you for sharing what you can with us the virtual pilots. Thanks to WAGS for being part of a great development team. You have made a lot of dreams come true!

  • @danconnell7884
    @danconnell7884 4 года назад +1

    Cant wait to see the Tacview debrief, thanks guys keep it up!

  • @SackyX
    @SackyX 4 года назад +1

    As always, great video and collaboration with with Wags.

  • @hornetdriver8509
    @hornetdriver8509 4 года назад +1

    Well done guys! Learned a lot. Look forward to the Tacview video.

  • @btsigov
    @btsigov 4 года назад

    Very cool video. What impressed me was the briefing. Most virtual pilots do not, and hence the elemental errors, confusions, and disorientation come from there. You can feel the ease, calmness and confidence with which Mover fills the flight. From this it shows that we should really pay more attention to briefings and BFM and devote much more time and practice to perfecting. To reach a level in which there is no thought or tension, but precisely this calmness, ease and confidence like that of Mover. Thanks Mover and Wags.

  • @TYLERNAVYGUY
    @TYLERNAVYGUY 4 года назад +82

    Ughhh What exactly do you mean by EVERYTHING!?!? Love this SH!T!!! Keep Movin Mover! At the end of the brief Mover wins by default every time. Hoo yah, Jesters Dead! Retired Navy AO carrier sailor.

    • @billdewahl7007
      @billdewahl7007 4 года назад +1

      I'm curious, which ship?? Also thank you for your service.

    • @kennethhicks2113
      @kennethhicks2113 4 года назад

      Hey, Tyler. My roomate was an AO in Iceland. From one E to another O7 ; )

  • @tomservo5007
    @tomservo5007 4 года назад +9

    When Top Gun II comes out, depending how well it does at the box office, this channel has a head start to capture the views.

  • @avaescaner
    @avaescaner 4 года назад +4

    Great video, very informative about actual procedures and communications. I really enjoyed it, thanks a lot!

  • @kwisatzhaderach1458
    @kwisatzhaderach1458 4 года назад +23

    Yessss! Your channel is growing. Hope to send an AIM 54 your way someday...

  • @azayomi
    @azayomi 4 года назад +6

    A lot of really cool ideas in this video and lots of information. Got a lot out of it. Amazing! Thank you!

  • @mikel3188
    @mikel3188 4 года назад

    Good stuff Mover I enjoyed the glimpse at this training sequence.

  • @launchsquid
    @launchsquid 4 года назад +6

    As someone that would like to learn as much of the real procedures as practical for DCS and reads NATOPS for fun (!? well not fun, but they do help me) it's awesome watching you go through the setup and comparing it to the manual because it explains things to me that I either missed or misunderstood.
    I'm always limited in the information I can gather, relying on declassified documents and the odd scrap of info, always declassified of course, from somewhere else, and not having any real life subject experts to ask questions of (even if they could or could not answer me) so seemly little details can clarify a great deal for me.
    Thanks so much, I really enjoyed this, and the debrief video also.
    Now I'll be able to recreate this with my sim buddies and we'll all be better fighters because of it.

  • @stal2k
    @stal2k 4 года назад +30

    You've come a long way in DCS since the ole, "who cares about the speedbreak I've got afterburner!" Video. Good stuff!

    • @thehavoccompany-a3
      @thehavoccompany-a3 4 года назад +1

      Definitely a nice change since those first videos where he'd "stall on a turn" lolol

    • @CWLemoine
      @CWLemoine  4 года назад +32

      Yeah, the DCS community has no sense of humor that they're aware of. 😂
      As for "stalling on a turn." 🤦‍♂️🤣

  • @wesleysugalski2842
    @wesleysugalski2842 4 года назад +2

    Fantastic video on fighter maneuver setups Lem !!! more, more, more...………...Thank you...……….. Wes from NJ.

  • @tristantriton8115
    @tristantriton8115 3 года назад

    The fact that the F/A-18 is inspired and in some regard bred from the F-5 makes this video special. Thank you for the content.

  • @blooeagle5118
    @blooeagle5118 4 года назад

    Mover this is some of the best stuff I watch on youtube, keep on it brother

  • @radekpecka8340
    @radekpecka8340 4 года назад +1

    Good I had subscribed to your channel. Glad someone like you enjoy DCS. I bought 16 & 18 for Christmass and seeing your videos interests me a lot.
    !

  • @jameslockridge8840
    @jameslockridge8840 4 года назад +1

    Another fantastic video. I want you to know how helpful and how much I appricate you taking the time to make this video and explaining what you are doing. This gives me something to practice hopefully in a DCS server. WELL DONE

    • @czdaniel1
      @czdaniel1 4 года назад +1

      Did you buy any of the Redflag air-combat training modules during the steam sale? They are like $4.99 on sale and available for the F-5, F-15...Probably a ton of other aircraft.

  • @Pricklyhedgehog72
    @Pricklyhedgehog72 4 года назад +15

    Sweet, Mover. These maneuvers make much more sense in terms of the rationale and what you're doing with the aircraft's frame to achieve that. For those interested in another visual, and I'm not trying to plug another guy's channel here, but Air Combat Tutorial Library does some excellent visuals of this technique with WWII birds and other DCS stuff. It happens a bit slower, but the technique and theory are the same or similar principles.

    • @RicCrouch
      @RicCrouch 4 года назад

      Funny you mention the channel-I just found it yesterday!

  • @SPQRTempus
    @SPQRTempus 4 года назад +86

    MiG 28's! No one's been this close before!

    • @Mr.Scootini
      @Mr.Scootini 4 года назад +1

      @SPQRTempus What the hell are they doing here?!?! whats their position?

    • @SPQRTempus
      @SPQRTempus 4 года назад +4

      @@Mr.Scootini 20 left at 30 miles, 900 knots closure

    • @Mr.Scootini
      @Mr.Scootini 4 года назад +1

      @@SPQRTempus *whispers* it was supposed to be "250 miles out sir" "250 miles?! get em outta here!" LMAO

    • @LtDogoop
      @LtDogoop 3 года назад

      @@SPQRTempus
      Couger you got that?
      Roger, Merlin you got um?

  • @TheVikingSailor
    @TheVikingSailor 4 года назад

    I knew Wags when my squad helped test Lock On 2.0 PVP back in the day. Stand up guy and very knowledgeable. He's been doing this for a very long time. Good to see you two together in a video. Fun times. BTW I played Queen's One Vision in the background while watching this because I know how Mover hates music in the cockpit.lol

  • @crimsoninterceptor
    @crimsoninterceptor 4 года назад +1

    Excellent content as usual, Mover!

  • @ewenchan1239
    @ewenchan1239 4 года назад +6

    This was fascinating!!!
    It's amazing to watch an ACTUAL fighter pilot who CLEARLY knows what he's doing in a sim, and then training someone else, inside the sim.

  • @timmax9128
    @timmax9128 4 года назад +1

    Lol what!? I dont understand anything happening but I couldnt stop watching! This is the first video I have watched on you channel and it was pretty good!

  • @rcoplien
    @rcoplien 4 года назад

    Cool to see you and Wags flying

  • @cshamm
    @cshamm 4 года назад +56

    That was really cool. You guys should do more sim videos like this.

  • @fookinspork1566
    @fookinspork1566 4 года назад +3

    Really digging the top gun scheme on the F5 (i mean mig) chuckled a lil when i noticed it

  • @rnzafdude
    @rnzafdude 4 года назад +5

    Love these vids!

  • @irememberjeepz
    @irememberjeepz 4 года назад +7

    These vids are fantastic. Looking forward to the Corvette as well.

  • @jgadget405
    @jgadget405 4 года назад

    That is the best video yet and great information that is useful!

  • @RedBravo65
    @RedBravo65 4 года назад

    Good stuff. Glad there will be more. Thanks for doing this.

  • @DaggerOneMike
    @DaggerOneMike 4 года назад

    Awesome Episode, thank you both very much.

  • @man_vs_life
    @man_vs_life 4 года назад +1

    Very nice; looking forward to more.

  • @adlep
    @adlep 4 года назад

    This is awesome. Thank you so very much for posting this and your efforts! HUGE for sim community

  • @toddwasson3355
    @toddwasson3355 4 года назад +2

    Great stuff! That was fun to watch. Thanks :)

  • @JJC2611
    @JJC2611 4 года назад +1

    Fantastic video. I love learning fundamentals instead of trying to learn advanced techniques without the base knowledge.

  • @Sour_CAG
    @Sour_CAG 3 года назад

    New viewer, love the DCS content and interviews! Especially liking the BFM training content. :)

  • @Tamburello_1994
    @Tamburello_1994 4 года назад +1

    Love that you guys did this at NTTR.

  • @CallsignJoNay
    @CallsignJoNay 4 года назад +1

    Learned a lot. Thanks for this. Keep em coming. 👍

  • @infotechsailor
    @infotechsailor 4 года назад +1

    This is some quality DCS nerd content! Thanks for posting lemoine

  • @System-Update
    @System-Update 3 года назад

    This is quality. Listening to Wags max out capacity is really interesting; "What do you see?" "Erm, were, erm, single, one erm." C.W. you should do one of these with Growling Sidewinder - the rate fight, nose position fight analysis is brilliant for those of us learning how it is done. Cheers for the vid both.

  • @Deano084
    @Deano084 2 года назад

    That was very interesting! Great vid

  • @joespencer6287
    @joespencer6287 4 года назад

    So cool though to get some idea of a little bit of the knowledge you've gain from your career. Love the spectre novels btw.

  • @dixievfd55
    @dixievfd55 4 года назад

    I still have my old Falcon 3.0 copy of Pete's Art of the Kill. Been reading that. It's nice to see the things Pete talks about being demonstrated.

  • @patricstandley
    @patricstandley 4 года назад

    Enjoyed this Mover!

  • @hansangb
    @hansangb 4 года назад +2

    I *so* wanted to hear Mover say "son, your ego's writing checks your body can't cash!: :) Awesome video gentlemen. And enjoy the Corvette, I had one pinned up on my bed for SOOO long growing up. That museum delivery will be incredible. I hope you take some vids.

  • @bigcat514
    @bigcat514 4 года назад

    Wow, how did I miss this?! A year late, a free Basic BFM course :D
    Anyways, thank you Mover for being a mentor to the DCS community.

  • @jonwestbrook4108
    @jonwestbrook4108 4 года назад

    Dude this is awesome!

  • @scharrk
    @scharrk 4 года назад +11

    Legends say they are still fyling in circles.

  • @rayritchotte7608
    @rayritchotte7608 4 года назад

    Awesome video CW

  • @commercio3564
    @commercio3564 4 года назад

    Nicely done!

  • @RX552VBK
    @RX552VBK 4 года назад +2

    Lmao! Love the homage to TOP GUN with the F5 E TIGER II's!

  • @Tertius_Oculus
    @Tertius_Oculus 4 года назад +1

    Matt Wagner (lover of DI's Tornado which still is playable btw) and Mover in a video... this is great!

  • @TheQbbxrxr
    @TheQbbxrxr 3 года назад

    this is awesome! thanks for making it

  • @KimmyR3
    @KimmyR3 4 года назад +1

    awesome insight into the life of fighter pilots!

  • @Rustygiz
    @Rustygiz 4 года назад

    Awesome stuff!

  • @Raven-sv4es
    @Raven-sv4es 4 года назад +2

    Who else wants Mover as Instructor? Awesome Video with a lot of informations i was looking for a long time. keep it up

  • @BDMcGrew
    @BDMcGrew 4 года назад +4

    Thanks Mover! Really enjoying the DCS stuff. Can you share the details of your rig please?

  • @cooperfp
    @cooperfp 4 года назад

    Awesome , Love it . Keep it up

  • @williamampuero2841
    @williamampuero2841 4 года назад

    Nice, thanks you two.

  • @WebberAerialImaging
    @WebberAerialImaging 4 года назад

    Really good stuff!

  • @agdgdgwngo
    @agdgdgwngo 4 года назад +38

    I see wags also has "simulational gravitational kinesthesia" a rare disorder where the DCS player experience G-force in real life proportional to the sim. I thought it only happened to me getting baked and playing DCS.

    • @mistermaster38
      @mistermaster38 4 года назад

      Now I need some gas to see if I can experience this now xD

    • @dr.watson8880
      @dr.watson8880 3 года назад +3

      @K Fenris That's harsh dude. You don't have to condone it. Live and let live.

  • @rinsatomi9527
    @rinsatomi9527 4 года назад +26

    Mover, you may have left the Navy but clearly the Navy never left you. Great stuff, thanks for sharing

    • @biskit_lmao7780
      @biskit_lmao7780 4 года назад

      he embrace navy really tight

    • @Cleared_To_Land
      @Cleared_To_Land 4 года назад +1

      You can take the man out of the Navy, but you can’t take the Navy man out of the Navy man. 😂

  • @29lives96
    @29lives96 4 года назад

    Love this!

  • @stephenhoda3362
    @stephenhoda3362 8 месяцев назад

    Gonky should get an Academy Award for portraying the behind the curve student. Mover should get best supporting for the patient & caring IP!

  • @randystockwell7582
    @randystockwell7582 4 года назад

    Loved this video

  • @PotholesInMyLawn
    @PotholesInMyLawn 3 года назад

    That was awesome.

  • @BryanDenham
    @BryanDenham 4 года назад +1

    i enjoy your DCS videos. i would absolutely love if you were able to make a short video about BFM in the 18 and 16 , any tips you may have for staying alive in a one on one (guns only) for both aircraft. thank you for your time i enjoy your content.

  • @imgrootsimulations8787
    @imgrootsimulations8787 3 года назад

    Awesome video

  • @roderickval
    @roderickval 4 года назад

    Awesome video!

  • @JayDKBGames
    @JayDKBGames 4 года назад +1

    BAD ass video good information and tactics for us simmers, I need to join a squadron but I'm waiting on the F16 before I join.

  • @argus3091
    @argus3091 4 года назад +1

    Yes I was hopping that you would fly against wags some day

  • @olivialambert4124
    @olivialambert4124 4 года назад +21

    You might not go into tactics, but I would recommend for anyone who wants to really hit tactics hard to buy "Fighter Combat: Tactics and Maneuvering" by Robert Shaw. Frankly I wouldn't be surprised if most squadrons had at least one copy of the book. It might be hard to pick up from the start, but it is very comprehensive and on point for all air combat going from WW1 to the foreseeable future. I've found online tactical discussions to have a ton of misinformation, so accurate sources like that are important to move beyond the basics. Plus applying the lessons, a lot of sim pilots learn their BFM very well but regress to bank and yank when they want to use it.

    • @Rathabflying
      @Rathabflying 4 года назад +2

      It’s an awesome read, not too many gamers go that far into the tactics so you’ll gain a huge advantage that way

    • @olivialambert4124
      @olivialambert4124 4 года назад

      @@Rathabflying Best book on the subject in my view, at least that I've seen. I actually had the opposite, I got into flight sims (and gaming as a whole) having read books on the subject from a young age.

    • @Rathabflying
      @Rathabflying 4 года назад +1

      Olivia Lambert ever thought about trying the real thing?

    • @olivialambert4124
      @olivialambert4124 4 года назад +2

      @@Rathabflying Yep. It was a goal I was working up to for years. When I got cancer I had to finally accept i wasn't possible anymore. It sucks but thats like I guess.

    • @Rathabflying
      @Rathabflying 4 года назад +3

      Olivia Lambert Hopefully it doesn’t get old to hear one more person say that I’m sorry your dreams were crushed by such an awful disease. I hope you find another career path that equally aligns with your dreams

  • @ashati3176
    @ashati3176 4 года назад

    Love the videos

  • @alisonwake2487
    @alisonwake2487 4 года назад

    Perfect video

  • @aghostofrazgriz5137
    @aghostofrazgriz5137 4 года назад +1

    You can HEAR Wags brain Turning. Haha. I like it

  • @OVERSPEED
    @OVERSPEED 4 года назад +4

    Nice!!!

  • @samivwow
    @samivwow 4 года назад +1

    hey, do you do your patterns are you do in DCS ? Just eyeballing it in general ? Or do you follow any procedures for bank angles and speeds and G ? Can you go into detail ?

  • @ivan.exposito
    @ivan.exposito 4 года назад +1

    tacview of this would be awesome!

  • @riderofthemark6661
    @riderofthemark6661 4 года назад

    Awesome! Thanks

  • @bdh985
    @bdh985 4 года назад

    Very cool!

  • @FarrellMcGovern
    @FarrellMcGovern 4 года назад +7

    Thank you both, very much, for an entertaining and informative half-hour of sim combat training. I was just watching Flight Chops earlier going through his IFR training, and between the two videos it really shows how important radio communications are in flying. Growing up I had wanted to be a fighter pilot (on the road aimed at becoming an astronaut), but after spending 4 years in the Royal Canadian Air Cadets in the early 70's, I discovered that I had problem with math, which later turned out to be Dyslexia/Dyscalculia (dyslexia with numbers). I could understand the math, and you have a MENSA level IQ, but can't add up a column of numbers correctly all the time, it's not a good idea to go into something where reversing two numbers could kill you! And that ended any career ideas for being a pilot. :-( But if I had been able to go on, I would have ended up flying the Canadian variants of the F-5 and the F/A-18, which makes this video especially fascinating to me.

  • @miconn99
    @miconn99 4 года назад +1

    painted like the top gun mig lol love it

  • @ShortArmOfGod
    @ShortArmOfGod 4 года назад +1

    Mig 28. Awesome airframe.

  • @briandang236
    @briandang236 Год назад

    Epic!!!!