Man Behind Earth 2 Exposed | Asmongold Reacts
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- Опубликовано: 29 окт 2024
- Asmongold learns the true story of Earth 2 CEO (by KiraTV)
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Most commentary channels: "This is all wrong, we want to critique this so that the final product is a better game."
Asmongold: "This is all wrong, I want to critique this so that the final product is a better scam."
Gotta have priorities
I stumbled upon Asmongold in my recommended about a month ago. Dude is ridiculously entertaining and gives intelligent commentary. Listening to him breakdown scammers dialog is just perfection.
Honestly I’m not big into streamers that much but I to stumbled upon him after his elden ring content and he always has something intelligent to say
For sure. Dude could have a whole coffeezilla style sidechannel
What a casual
He was a professional scammer for years in WoW
@@willianzorzi6026 Me and your mom are anything but casual though.
That dude's office waaaaay to clean for an office that is actually used for work. Every room he is screams "rental office space"
Yeah lol. It looks like he built a stock photo set.
"Hasn't pulled off the packaging plastic on his monitor." Idk if this is a joke or not but it's kind of very real. It really does say a lot about how you interact with and view tech. Honestly a huge brain take.
TBH I’ve had plastic on the back on my monitor for years, noticed it only when I replaced my monitor
These scams always go the same way. They sell hopes and dreams and the hype just gets bigger and bigger. And eventually they have to let everyone down one way or another.
Or they just keep developing the game for a decade like Star Citizen and rake in half a billion dollars.
@@scorpion07070 But Star Citizen isn't a scam, sorry 😁
I love your coverage of this stuff. You may not be doing any research but your providing something no one else is by simply sharing your perspective. Your far from the only person who talks about the psychology around scams on this platform, but your the only one I've found who seems to have first hand experience with scamming people. Keep up the good work.
He worked for the IRS
What a brilliant backhand
The fact Asmongold started to react to Earth 2 will be the ultimate death of the project. Good job, bro.
@@dantefromdevilmaycry9857 they promised the world, literally
@@dantefromdevilmaycry9857 yeah but that has been the case from day one.. And they still scammed people out of millions. Unfortunately some people when you offer them the world. They start dancing to Nirvana. Oh no.. Not me.. I never lost control. You're face to face.. With the man who sold the world. Yes the Nirvana version bc I like it better than the original.
People: "why does E2 have no 3d gameplay?"
Shane: "the technology we want to use doesn't exist, but give us your money!"
Oh but it does exist, they honestly think people are stupid
I absolutely love how Asmon is just pissed off that this guy is making money while doing the scam badly... :D
Pyramid schemes are scam central. If the scam is too clean, it would then fail to attract shitty people who use this scheme to scam others.
The scheme needs to be half obvious, but not too obvious. So greedy people think they are above it all and join to scam dumber people. That is how it works.
Imagine running around in a world, where you are utterly alone and is void of content. We already have that, it's called Shadowlands.
a bunch of stuff you can do in shadowlands
“Who gifted him a sub?!?!” Killed me XD
Didn't think I would see/hear new thoughts on this (I have been watching Callum, Bigfry, Josh, Kira etc.) but Asmongold seems to nail it down pretty well, especially regarding promises being intentionally vague so people can fill the gaps with their fantasies.
Asmongold used to be a scammer himself, he's open about that, but that gives him unique insight into how scams work. He knows what he is talking about because that's how he did it when he still used to do this.
It's usually the people who were in it, who can be the most outspoken against it once they're out.
Based on the detail level they claim to be going for, the game would be several petabytes in storage volume needed. You cannot stream that level of detail on minimum broadband in the US so it would need stored locally. ARK: Survival Evolved with all maps downloaded is almost half a Terabyte. That's maybe all of Tokyo at the same detail level. The world? HA!!! Obvious scam is obvious.
This guy is trying to say they are star citizen without actually saying it. What they don't realize is that in it's Kickstarter even SC had gameplay videos. And they were consistently releasing gameplay videos. (Regardless of how bare bones they actually were.......)
it is exactly like Star Citizen.
the fact you can buy a ship for thousands of dollars and then "use" that shop to do things... Earth 2 is claiming to do the same thing, only with land....lame as hell
@@redbeardreturns3550 well its yor choice to buy any ships
The number 1 sign of not being someone who plays video games "I'm a gamer." It's a phrase that has nothing behind it, because people who play video games let their achievements or cosmetics speak for them.
yeah trying to wear it like a badge or something
i mean the people who uses the word "gamer" to describe themselves unironically are a joke
@@drowningin just play The Elder Scrolls: Arena, hours and hours of wasteland.
Remember people who play "Candy Crush" consider themselves as "Gamers".
35:30 And his main monitor isn't even turned on, the only light source hitting him is the sun and not the monitor light, AND the smaller one is still on the main setup screen, and the keyboard is just turned on. . . Just wow o-0
That and the packing plastic left on makes it look like the big monitor has only been bought for the video and they will return it as soon as the camera stops working
Any game developer will tell you that the platform first, gameplay second angle is beyond wrong. You always prototype gameplay first to make sure you have a playable game to build around BEFORE you start building a gigantic world to put that gameplay in. Otherwise, you risk wasting a ton of time and resources building an environment for something that sucks or is fundamentally broken. Even if you look at this in good faith, the entire process is ass backlwards and doomed to fail from the start.
I love how its filmed with a pen in hand, at his desk, with fat notebook. Give an illusion of being busy and hard at work.
real people know that an actual office where someone is hard at work has random shit all over the place papers left and right on the floor and all etc
Also im pretty sure those pages are blank.
I see Asmongold has been inducted into The Shadow Council.
*mumbles melodic prayer in Latin*
Brother Asmongold has not been inducted into the Shadow Council, because there is no Shadow Council. This is the official stance of the not-shadow-council, which clearly does not exist.
Hail the Council, their will be done.
Oh this’ll be fun!
This is why I don't buy things that aren't made and in my hands. I'm a customer, not your funders.
fatal mistake from Shane to have attracted big youtubers attention imo
fatal mistake was him being born but also this yeah
All I’m hearing here is the defining qualities between a business person and an artist. Finance and business infect everything and do exactly what this guy is doing. This only feels new to us because we the consumer are now the product being bought and sold. In fact, to call us a consumer anymore is a pretty inaccurate term. We’re now a second tier currency.
Isn't Microsoft Flight Simulator "Earth 2" with airplanes?
Pretty much.
yeah it is! and its 9 y old
Their intentions were clear when they said there was gonna be an economy - this isnt being developed for the love of development or the love of games its being made (not made) purely for the cash
Does this guy not realize the actual gameplay *is* the foundation? It doesn’t matter how vast or detailed a world is if you can’t actually interact with it or any of it’s elements.
Anyone can create a vast open world in Unity and stick a First-Person plugin on it. The real question is what we’re actually supposed to be paying for.
I love how Asmongold actually pauses the video when going afk and unlike Hasan and Denims fear the chat is still there and doesn't complain.
@@Raven3557 yeahp :)
and asmon doesnt like when people do these comparisons between streamers... so he prolly doesnt think that highly of you
@@bongshark420 ok and I should care why?
He doesn't even really work in that office , the cover on the monitor joke was actually spot on. The pen in his hand with the ledger in front of him is my favourite thing.
I find it hilarious that they are so hung up on the "1:1 replica of Earth" thing. I't clearly a marketing bullshit for people who are not gamers (or game developers). Like bitch please, there is nothing special about the shape of the Earth, it's being Earth and not whatever planet nr 2137 does not change anything and has no impact on either the gameplay and the development process apart from the world creation itself. And you cannot create the world without knowing what gameplay will be. Earth 2 is fucking hilarious
The people who invest in these projects are usually not gamers anyway
I cant remember which you tuber it was (think it was josh strife), but they said it perfectly: even if you release a 1:1 of earth it doesnt matter, because after 24 hours it wont even remotely resemble earth, because the whole point is you should be able to do whatever magic the earth 2 devs are promising
@@1234kingconan yes? the comment is saying that xd
For what little this is worth, Star Citizen starts at $45, and a bigger more expensive ship just means you have to have friends with you to run the thing. You can't just pay $3000 (the most expensive ship) and lord it over everyone. You'll have a huge ship that's very slow and nobody to shoot things. And the biggest reason, fuel costs scale with the size of your ship.
Most ships are available to earn in game as well, so there's no reason to spend more than the base price unless you just wanna throw money at the game (do not recommend).
not just earn in-game, but can be rented in game for a fraction of the cost, then you can use the rented ship to earn money until you can afford to buy the ship outright with in-game currency. there is such a low barrier of entry to getting better ships in Star Citizen and all buying a ship with actual cash does is help fund the development of the games (yes they are two games; Squadron 42 - single player campaign set in the same universe and Star Citizen - the mmo) and save you some grind when the very infrequent wipes that occur, as the game is still in development.
"We are so far fetched in our vision that we don't even know if 3 are enough dimensions when we get to the game loop. Maybe we need to plan for 6 or 7D? Creating 2D or 3D now is only limiting us!"
"a great idea if you don't think about it" - the quote of 2022 from Asmongold right there
Asmon is definitely right about one thing. They really should teach statistics in highschool.
To put it bluntly- The house always wins. Gambling is *always* statistically stacked in favor of the house- if you play long enough, you will *always* lose more than you earn.
Like, maybe you gamble once, make a decent winning, and walk. That's the best-case scenario. But if you were to keep gambling, it's guaranteed that you will lose more money to the house than you win from the house in the long run. Its why casinos are so profitable.
He's using a temp office ( know as some of my clients a have used that actual room lol)... So fake...
I love how he was holding a pen on an empty notebook. Basically says they're all talk with no substance lol
"resources are coming soon!" one year later... no resources
I would like to mention that the server cost to keep such a large project going would be insane. they would have to implement a monthly subscription of like 1000$ to keep their vast network of servers online.
But we all know this shit will never come out
the fee would keep on raising bc less and less people would be there to chip in
Its far more likely the map would be generated in real time from far far less pre processed data that can be synched easily.
You just know when Shane is ready to cash out, he is shaving that beard, moving to the Cook Islands and that monitor will be back on ebay.
Superbouncing to the top of ascension, the building on Zanzibar, those were the days brother.
Thanks for fixing this. A lot of the videos that have been uploaded on this channel have had a cutoff problems, didn't know it was due to youtube.
ooohhh thats why...thought i was going crazy for a while
We're going to be watching an Internet Historian video on this one day.
I look forward to that video when it releases in 2032
_"We need the 1:1 world for 3d gameplay to work."_
Dude basically admitted to not understanding scale/scaling without even realizing it.
Man his notebook is also full of ideas for E2.... oh wait, it´s blank.....
which reflects perfectly their ideas for E2
@@kokocaptainqc exactly
35:00 I agree with him 100% after seeing his ultra luck there
I know he was joking, but ships in star citizen generally cost between 40-300usd .. most of which around the 100-150 range.. but you can absolutely buy a starter game package for 45-65$ and then purchase any ship you want in game with in game currency.
In example, a ship that would cost 240$ irl would be about 4-5m in game currency. You can fairly easily make 200-300k in game currency per hour just playing the game.
This is true. I think a lot of people who have only heard of the game never even know that you can buy ships with in game money. Although, I still don't like that you can pay money to just skip all work and gameplay. The idea that someone can just get the best ships immediately at the swipe of a card, meanwhile someone else has to "grind" hours for a ship really annoys me. I would've loved it if they only sold cosmetics/skins and left the ships for ingame money only.
@@treeinafield5022 you are paying money to support development. there are also many systems in place to curb any advantage from those that help fund the game further than the starter packs.
also, i have to labor this point, but by your own logic, if someone has more time to play the game they should always have the best stuff even though they may be less skilled. what then of people who play the game a long time after initial release? are the vets not at a considerable advantage? so should every vets get their gear stripped down to the power of the noobies, since it would be a disadvantage for the noobies to be around veterans of the game? you are making an fallacious appeal to intuition and an arbitrary drawing of a line that favors just your perspective and is not good for the development of the game and the health of the game in the long run.
@Odeezee make a better more concise point.
The concept of a full scale replica of earth already exists. It is Microsoft Flight Simulator.
Slot machines have a system inside them where you can set the percentage given back to the customer. I learned that when I was six years old :)
and certain places have laws
egulations requiring those percentages to be displayed
the new content starts at 35:00
Hope this guy will be as famous as BitConnect guy.
To the people arguing that if you're lucky in a casino, you can win. Sure, you can. But consider this: Giving away money is the WORST business model possible.
Casinos can only stay in business if they are taking more money from the players than they give out. Also consider the fact of how big and expensive casinos are to build and operate, and how they continually do big giveaways for absurd amounts. How do they pay for that?
Well there's a house edge in every single game. So no matter what happens, the casino doesn't lose. They may have ups and downs daily, but they will win the house edge on average over a large sample size. A player may get lucky, but if they continue to play they will lose. Even if they don't play after winning big, the other players losses will make up for that.
It’s called the law of large numbers.
13:00 Chronicles of Elyria LMAO
Earth 2 better be flat if they're planning a accurate representation of the real world
He’s basically trying to be the federal reserve. It’s “borrowing” money with the promise that what they’re giving you will hold value in the future.
Reminds me of those developers that always brag about how big the maps are in their open world Skyrim clones while forgetting why people play those games in the first place. Nobody cares how many square feet your map is if the game isn't engaging.
I'm amazed that anyone who isn't in on the scam, put money in this. I wouldn't let these people on my wifi network, let alone give them money.
I mean the people that got in at the very beginning and saw what it was and sold out when the hype peaked out more than likely made their money back and then some but anything besides that it's just throwing money away
The slots analogy : you know you can’t climb ladder with a negative win rate.
And a slots machine in the netherlands i heared ones from one dude opening one that the loss win rate is more like 60 till 75% loss instead of wins. but that was years ago tho
Welcome to the Shadow Cabal Council.
You're first quest is to destroy Earth 2 and other metaverse "games"
“But what if they get lucky?!”
For every Tesla, there are a million Theranos. They COULD be lucky, sure, but the odds of “lucky” are so low that you’ll never have a chance.
Invest in projects you actually believe in, not on projects that rely entirely on luck.
This is the Chris Roberts pitch, laying foundations for the 'future'.
Star Citizen realistically is smaller than the area of the entire earth, and look how long that's taken Chris with hundreds of millions of dollars in funding.
but they actually have a game to go with the world
@@dantefromdevilmaycry9857 Yeah bro. Next patch they've hinted at introducing clouds - it's not a promise though, as it's all quite technical. They've come a long way.
@@dantefromdevilmaycry9857 they have come a long way since 5 years, sure it still has bugs and performance issues but there are multiple branches of gameplay you can delve into, mining, fps combat, ship to ship combat with reputations for multiple factions, trading, cargo hauling and ofc just effing around doing dumb stuff ^^
@@Codoxnz volumetric clouds on planets have been in since summer of last year, what they are doing is adding clouds to the third of four planets, Hurston, in the system, while tweaking and improving the volumetric cloud tech as well. the clouds atm, look amazing, though they still have some artifact dithering which they will tackle as well as making the clouds dynamic and then finally globally systemic. big goals, just for one aspect of the backdrop of the game, but it is one that i support and am here for. 2022 could end up being such a great year for the project! here's hoping.
3:00 Blank pages with a pen in hand and it's turned 2/3rd's giving the illusion he's spent hours writing. He's practically ripped off interviews and speeches of Elizabeth Holmes who owned theranos, and her father- the man who owned Enron. I'm just waiting on a future video where he rips off one of Leo's speeches from the Wolf of Wallstreet lol
Why is there no gameplay? Because it's not a game, it's a scam.
I can HIGHLY recommend Star Citizen. I'm an ex Blizzard Dev and I haven't been so excited about a project. This is the MMO that I've been wanting to play since I started playing Everquest back in the day. The basic gameplay loops that have already been implemented are INCREDIBLY fun! Just EXISTING in the universe is fun. And as far as the ship prices? Better than 90% of the ships that are available can be purchased with in-game credits. I've been playing the game for months and I got started for $45. The only reason to pay actual money for a ship is that if you don't, you'll lose it if they do a server wipe. Seriously, though, give it a shot. I guarantee you won't be disappointed.
no to mention the only reason why wipes currently exist is because they are still in heavy development, but the wipes are very infrequent only one in the last 2 years. but all ships that are flyable in the alpha can be RENTED with in-game currency for a very small fraction of the in-game cost of buying the ship with in-game credits. O7
Star Citizen is awesome Asmo should try it. All you need is the starting $45 package everything is easy to get ingame.
The biggest flaw in the logic of "oh we know this will take ten years to make because technology isn't where we need it", that means they want to do this when it's already the main stream thing. They wont be first to the party if they are waiting for someone else to develop the technology they need.
By the time they can make a game the size of earth, RDR2 detail, with no loading screens and is completely seamless, most devs will also be able to do the same. So they will just be another face in the crowd.
Hey, at least Star Citizen did "something". I mean, I'm aware they're light years away from the thing they promised to build at the beginning, but at least they built something that exists and is real. They did a bunch of fund raising, they did a bunch of presentation and then they showcased the technology they built.
Yeah, the game will never be "finished" (and if they actually release a final version it'll be in 2050 or something like that) and some stuff costs a thousand dollars, but at least it's something right?
This Earth 2 scam is just smoke and mirrors and when they finally set a deadline to showcase some actual progress they'll either disappear or make up some bullshit as to why the project is cancelled due to outside interference or something like that
Scams like Earth 2 and Star Atlas are what the masses assume what Star Citizen is. I still see people parroting information that was only relevant for the 2.0 patches (to put it into perspective, 3.0 was released nearly 5 years ago). I've even seen people still assume that you can only look at ships in your hangar and not fly them, which stopped being the case in 2014. If there is one silver lining here though, it's that these scams help recontextualize SC. Though it remains to be seen if the masses will be perceptive to their differences.
it took them how many years? 10? lets give earth 2 millions of dollars and 10 years and they would too deliver SOMETHING. and it also would be far from what was promised
@@Apav1x There's a ton of games with bad flight controls letting you steer a ship. That's not and never was what Star Citizen was about. That's like someone promising to make World of Warcraft and then after 10 years saying "Well maybe we didn't make a cool MMO with a big world and raids yet, BUT LOOK, you can already attack an NPC and even have a few skills! Just give us a few hundred bucks per skill and you too can already hit an NPC with skills! See we're almost there!"
Yeah no, Star Citizen DOES have SOMETHING to show for it. But it's still a scam, just one that's a lot more elaborate than Earth 2.
@@EskChan19 There are valid arguments that it's horribly mismanaged, but zero for that it's actually a scam. If it's a scam, then why haven't they drastically cut scope and ported it to consoles to push out whatever it would be to call it "released?" That would make them orders of magnitude more money than they do now (SC's srevenue is peanuts compared to multiplatform AAA multiplayer games and as it stands their company is barely treading water as they expand even more as per their financials). Why does Roberts even bother to micromanage everything to a fault as he does, when he could just fuck off to diving into his Scrooge McDuck piles of gold letting the game spin on its wheels and gain the same amount of money without him being so involved behind the scenes?
I'm pretty sure when god made a Earth 1 he, at least, removed all the plastic packaging out of his computer
Star Citizen costs only 45$ to start with then earn the rest in game. Everything else is just support for the game. The big ships are not required to buy at all. But to skip some grind maybe a startership of 100$ will be better. But no need to do that from the start. Just buy the 45$ aurora the ntry the game and if its cool for you buy a bigger one you like. Maybe the mining ship to make quick money or a ship for bounty hunting.
Star Citizen has a somewhat bad reputation from trolls and old accusations that still are spread in the internet mostly from hear saying and not people who actually tried it.
But who ever gets into SC now. Be warned it is still in Alpha and whole new gameloops are still beeing added. So things sometimes are a bit buggy even thos since about a year they really put effort in stabalizing it. Now they added also a crash recovery so we dont lose our goods anymore in rare cases of server crashes that were one year ago still very much present. Now more a rarity.
I wouldnt say its fleshed out enough yet to have it as a game that you will play day by day. But it is enough to get 50h+ of excitment out of it just trying out what it already there.
Like the feel of size and the eyecandy is awesome. The love for detail and other things you cant find in other games i think.
you don't even have to buy ships in Star Citizen, you can rent then for a small fraction of the cost and use the rented ship to earn money until you can afford to buy it outright with in-game credits.
This is only my second Asmongold video so I don’t know if this happens all the time. But I’m a guy watching a video of a guy watching a video of a guy watching a video of a guy talking about his game (which is just a video)…
Most Native American tribes that own casinos, ban their own tribe members from playing in the tribes casino……because they know that slots are a losers game, and playing them long enough results in you getting wrecked.
If they really wanted to, they could have made a 1:1 replica of Rhode Island to show that they do indeed have some gameplay. But as Asmon said: It's better to release nothing because anything they make will not live up to what they promised.
Can't wait to play a 9 to 5 job on earth 2
Was this uploaded earlier and came down? I thought I'd seem it but then couldn't find it. Or is this a different vid entirely?
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Of course I know what tech that works with future hardware means! It’s obvious!
It means they have to start over at the next singularity in the computing world and since they’re starting over you need to give them more money now and no you can’t see what has already been accomplished because we already deleted it for not being aligned to the new hardware.
Watch Shane challenge asmon to build a game like earth 2
This is essentially them handing you an empty cup and promising to put some sort of liquid into it but you never know what kind of liquid or when
oh? nerd
Minecraft with infinity randomly generated worlds be like...
1:07 Josh Strife Hayes is crying rn
earth 2 video 8 minutes, kiras video 23 minutes, asmongold video 45 minutes.
28:18 they literally say "we're going to steal your money"
That smirk when people started gifting subs, after you gave the ranking speech looool
I know this is a bit old, but with slotmachines? Chance to win goes down when amount goes up. They do this because you'll win a lot on the low amount machines to get you to go to the expensive machines where you will almost never win.
As long as people give these guys money, these guys will exist
"Lucky's a factor"
Oh right. I forgot that we're living in a Fallout game and i can just put ten points in my luck stat.
And even if that was a factor, the only thing changing is the amount of time before you lose all your money.
What they basically have done, if they actually deliver the experience is release the store first then created gameplay. However its never going to happen it will stay as an idiots money mine sweeper.
Star citizen is fun for like 120 hours. After that you're just waiting on patches. Also, all the ships that cost that much money need multiple crew members and are really not viable in game
What happened to the video that got published 4 h ago and was set private?
take google map of the planet Earth and AI 3d render construct everything from the atom size to up! and we all can jack in like the matrix!
Once something concrete comes out, the investments will stop coming in.
Pay those bucks for those land tiles... lol
You forget the camera is installed there and hes in a corner. seems to me a rly quit set up made just for his video that is why the plastic is still on his screen
It's actually quite entertaining to see how people are still falling for these scams
Would I be wrong in saying this is like Star Citizen but if they never made it playable?
Getting some major deja-vu right about now
If Earth 2 was advertised as a tabletop rpg, not a "Second Life" rehash with NFTs, no one would have complained about no gameplay lol. Alas, we have what we have.
In my opinion they should open it with a few countries and then expand it with updates that would add my countries. Add maybe more things to do. After finishing one continent. They would start working on other. After finishing it they would focus on oceans and islands. It would give second earth long live and people would pay more money.
....its a scam dude......wake up.......
@@kokocaptainqc I tried to write more realistic way to do it and i know that it is scam
Spot on with the "Abstract". I'm still waiting on my flying car that was supposed to be available by now. Now we just resorted to electric cars that can drive, far from the flying cars lol
gameplay is where a game becomes immortal and a work of cult, that's why gameplay is the most difficult and important aspect of a videogame
A bit about slots gambling - my uncle was a professional gambler and explained the process when I was very young but the basic gist is this: slot machines in casinos at least are required by law to pay out certain dividends. My understanding is that groups of savvy individuals would be able to spot certain indicators that a group of machines was about to pay out big. At that point they would sit down 5-10 at a time on a group of games and start plugging and chugging this increasing the chances of someone from their team hitting the jackpot. While I don’t think it’s technically illegal they have certainly been banned from their share of casinos over the years 😅
how many people does he expect will play the game? 100k? 200k? a more realistic number will be 30k online at once and i'm super over estimating this number for the sake of argument. most of those people spread out, they will spend a lifetime in the game without running into another player. more than likely, they will all congregate around a few colonies that take up about 20k square km.