What's the Deal with Ribbed Hosing?
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- Опубликовано: 14 апр 2023
- Ribbed hosing is a highly distinctive feature that separates Fluval canister filters from all other models available today. What are its advantages? Ribbed hosing is quick and easy to install, doesn't kink or collapse over time, is not influenced by temperature, maintains a wide, constant water flow area over the aquarium rim, and its aesthetics are not compromised over time. Most importantly, Fluval ribbed hosing provides superior clog resistance to help prevent loss of flow rate, ensuring the most efficient filtration performance for your aquarium!
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I would be fine with the hosing if you at least would make it possible to connect (with ease) to other popular inlet and outlet types like lily pipes and other accessories.
so glad you addressed this topic. well done.
I've never understood why the hose connectors are grey and not black???
They were off white before the o7 series, and when they roll out the 08, I'm sure that it will be black
@@stoneysscapes7544 I hope so
I agree they should be black. I painted mine, but it would've been nice to not have to take that extra step.
I was about to order one but the reviews changed my mind.
Love my 307, it's an incredible design and super efficient. I really want to make a review video on it.
I like the fluval ribbed hose, it’s strong and durable.
That said the negatives outweigh the positives.
1. Fixed lengths can’t be cut to size.
2. Oversized bend clamps are cumbersome and aesthetically an eye sore.
3. As mentioned you can’t use 3rd party equipment, it has to be fluval.
4. The ribs naturally hold debris and are way harder to clean.
5. With ribs you restrict flow,it’s common sense, utility companies and domestic properties do not use ribbed pipes to supply water because of this as well as the effects of No4.
Fully agree with everything you stated. In addition, these gray rubber connectors do not seal properly. I moved back to normal, clear hoses.
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You're absolutely right! "Plastic" hosing will indeed kink easily when applied the same way as the fluval ribbed hosing over the edge of the aquarium rim or rimless tank. That's why it's best to use vinyl hose instead!
Could Fluval make a quick disconnect power supply? That way one would not have to unplug and take the cord during maintenance. Also, yes. Please get rid of the grey tips. All black would look much better.
100% yes
So I bought just the gray tips that are on the ribbed fulvue hose, then I was able to splice in a inline heater. It's been working great, know leaks at all. Is this a bad idea or is it the solution you said fulvue was working on to be able to add things on?
The ribbed hoses are very easy to work with and to route. Much easier than standard hose. I've never had a problem with them. Quick edit: Route and trim them with a little slack so they are not tight. Would like black not grey connectors also.
We're happy to hear that Jeff! 😊
@@fluval agreed on this point --> "Would like black not grey connectors"
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I can tell you from my own personal experience and buying choices, I've specifically not spent money on a fluvial canister because of the tubing choice.
I have the spraybar kit. I use a powerhead with it. I would love to get a 407 (or 408 when that exists) for my 75G aquarium. There's a few main issues.....
1. Ribbed hosing is very likely used because it's either cheaper to produce in the end or it's purely used because of those rubber connections being "more user friendly".
Just be honest about it, give us the opportunity to have normal tubing and use all the in line products.
2. Ribbed hosing vs. Tubing.... so you're trying to compare algae and debris buildup on a pump test but you're literally using a clear (light penetrating) product vs. One that reflects light and blocks that. They make black tubing.
3. I would argue the connector shown vs. "the other guys".... they are basically identical and both pretty close to 90 degree bends in and out of the tank. The difference is that most people want to use lilly pipes, which avoids this issue.
4. Ribs, depending on the quality of the plastic give the hose a stress point. Flat walled tubing avoids that. If someone accidentally crushed ribbed tubing, it's likely permanent damage, with a flat wall it's likely not.
5. You can buy different wall diameters for flat tubing to prevent the ability to kink. Python makes great clear tubing that doesn't kink easily and promotes good bend radius behavior.
My best advice for the design team, from someone that wants to buy the product but is hesitant on doing so:
1. Release the 8 series with normal tubing. As others have mentioned, black out as much as you can to avoid the grey connectors contrast.
2. Improve the impeller so that the shaft is part of the impeller itself and therefore can't be broken.... this also makes it easier to replace.... or make it such that there is lower risk to break the impeller trying to maintain it. "take care to" is a very nice thing to say in a manual, but it's really not viable in practice.
3. Adjustability or just an improved pump. If I go buy a HoB for a 10G.... I'm buying one rated for a 20-30G aquarium that I can adjust accordingly to what I want the flow to be.
I would like to see basic HoB features in a canister that is vastly more expensive.
A sensible response- thank you!
Fluvial can you make filter upgrades for your fluval desktop series.
I'm happy with the ribbed hoses. My question is how do J install my in line UV light?
Is there a kit? A short hose to add?
Thanks in advance
Hi there! Here's the short hose that connects FX Series filters to the FX UVC Clarifier when it's wall-mounted: fluvalaquatics.com/us/shop/product/connector-tube-for-fx-uvc-in-line-clarifier
Absolutely, and makes perfect sense. Thanks for the explanation! Still I would love to see fluval putting out a line of products with the FX power but focusing on aquascaping like glass/steel lily pipes, clear plumbing etc... At least make the diametrs 16/22 mm intead of 1" to make it more friendly to existing cometialy standard aquascaping stuff. 😉IMHO
Hi Miguel, thank you for your comment and for your very good suggestion! We've forwarded it to our product development team. 😎
can you please make the gray connectors in black? thank you. those gray connectors are the first thing you see when entering the house.
I bought one of the hose cleaners online to take care of the issue with gunk coming out my FX filters when turning them back on. Just clean them out once a year.
I think an inline on/off switch at the canister end of the cord would be quite handy.
Agreed. Would be nice to have a detachable power supply cable at the unit, so you don't have to drag the power cord with you when doing maintenance.
@@flicknfreckles I think ill modify mine with that. (he is no longer on warranty anyway!) Good idea.
My fx6 hose developed a pin hole sized leak that flooded my living room after 5 months. Is there something this can be coated in to prevent future leaks.
Hi there, we're sorry to hear about this. Please contact our customer support team for assistance: fluvalaquatics.com/us/contact-us/
Can you please address the issue of disconnecting the valves on FX4 and FX6. It’s extremely hard to disconnect. As a matter of fact I’m currently looking to replace my FX filters because of this situation.
Hi there! To disconnect the AquaStop valves on FX Series canister filters, simply press the red button to release them and lift them up! 👍
When will there be a(n) inline UV system for the FX cannister filters? Great filters, by the way!
It's in development! It'll be available by the end of this year. 👍
You may be aware but they have one now.
I agree with why it’s good. There is ways around to put inline equipment in, I have inline co2 on mine , might not be everyone’s choice though and I guess isn’t a straight easy fit. But you could just a thicker grey end( even if you have to add a sealer to the end of the ridged pipe before applying the grey end)that fits into the thread of the inline stuff and seals , so it’s the same as say normal 16/22mm pipe , or make a double connector, so one end the ridged pipe can go into and you can add normal pipe to the equipment. Or make inline products. Although most people who want Lilly pipes and hide equipment can just use clear hosing anyways then the pipe won’t go over the top of the tank.
Never had any issues with Fluval ribbed tubing on FX6 filters some running non stop for nearly ten years 👍
@@TheBootleLad thats great for you and they are very good and easy as well to maneuver, but the only problem is adding glass or acrylic lily pipes are not worth the hassle and if you are going to be really "creative with the connections" Hello and risk a lot of water damage isn't the smartest advice !!!
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1. Two 90° bends going over the rim of a tank does not “significantly reduce flow” in any noticeable manner. I’ve tested this with an FX6 and using a stopwatch the amount of time it takes to fill a 5 gallon bucket showed no discernible difference. The tolerance would have been within human error using said stop watch. Your rim clamps have opportunity for improvement.
2. Ribbed hosing provides more surface for bacteria to grow. But it’s not clear, which is a plus so no light gets in. If you allowed both types of hose to accumulate stagnant water for a month and then rinsed them, the corrugated tubing would hands down have more CFUs and LALs in it.
3. I simply don’t believe the 3rd party “1% loss of flow after 7 years” please provide that data and test method.
4. All that stuff blows out because the corrugated tubing holds it until it gets air in the line… using a fishnet when you spend $400 on a filter is a pretty poor solution.
5. I do enjoy your products! Just don’t love the mixed messaging sent here for marketing purposes.
The difference is that with the hose going into the tank you eliminate the chance of leaks from connections outside the tank.
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Any new all in one’s coming?
We've been wanting inline heaters badly in my house.
7/8in outer dimension 5/8in inner dimension clear vinyl hosing. lily pipe and accessories 16/22mm will fit that hose perfectly
The worst thing with the fluval hosing is the ridiculous grey rubber that looks terrible in the tank, why it's not black is ridiculous.
I agree ,
Its shame they haven't made a a black rubber version yet , only so that it disappears from sight once in water ,,, i love my Fluval 207 filter
@@rolandtraynor You can give them a few coats of black plastidip spray and they stay nice and black ;-)
I amin fish groups and I told everyone fluvial rubbed hoses are the best doesn't cake or kink
Been used in the swimming pool industry forever.
Doesn’t work with inline heater really? I’m currently using it with inline heater for over a year without a single problem.
Hi there! When cut, ribbed hosing doesn't form a watertight seal. We only recommend making connections using the rubber connectors at each end of the hosing!
Not met anyone who likes the ribbed hoses. It’s just another way to make money by forcing a product on the customer.
I have a Fluval 307 and it’s a fantastic filter, solid and reliable but the hoses went in the bin straight away as they’re not compatible with any of my other equipment.
I use and like the ribbed hosing.
I want to shorten some of my hoses, and maybe include the Fluval Inline UV Clarifier. I have purchased additional Fluval collars. Do I need to glue them onto the ends of the ribbed hosing? If so, what glue should be used (rubber cement? silicone?) Or is it sufficient to just 'screw' them onto the ends?
Hi there! We don't recommend shortening the hoses in that fashion. If you wish to add the Fluval UVC Clarifier to your setup, please note that it comes with a short length of hosing necessary for installation! Otherwise, to shorten your hosing, simply detach the hosing from the rubber connectors attached to the intake and output assemblies, cut sections of the hosing off, and reconnect the connectors. 👍
@@fluval It's the 'reconnect the connectors' part that I'm having trouble with. I've been unable to remove the collars from the OEM hoses. Is there a proper method to remove and re-attach the collars on the hoses? I'm not sure why you would sell replacement collars if you don't recommend cutting and/or shortening the hoses....
will a 407 hose fit a 207 canister filter?
Hi there! The hosing for the 207 is different than that of a 407 - we recommend using the one made specifically for the filter!
Seems brittle to me, which is why I use surgical tubing. Also, I need to cut it - I only need 2 feet, and I'm not risking that. I have it connected to my overflow of my saltwater tank so I don't use the assembly in the tank.
How do you use a lilly pipe with this hose?
7/8in outer dimension 5/8 inner dimension clear vinyl hosing lily pipe and accessories 16/22mm will fit that hose perfectly 👌🏾
Why do you say the ribbed hosing is 'incompatible'? I used to run a Hydor inline heater w/ a Fluval 305(IIRC) w/o any issues, though I don't recall how I had the hoses configured. The Hydor connections were very similar to the connections on the Fluval inline UVC, though...
It would be nice if you offered hose kits in a couple of different lengths, though, to accommodate an in-line accessory. I.e., maybe a 2x4' kit to allow for the inline heater.
Hi Lee! In general, Fluval ribbed hosing can't connect to in-line equipment, as the ribbing prevents a watertight seal from being established.
I dont mind it just wish the grey connectors were black please update these in future think many customers would prefer this thanks.
Ribbed for your pleasure ❤
The Fluval hosing is so noisy, how can you solve that?
Hi there! Ensure the hosing follows a straight path from the filter to the aquarium, with no kinks, loops or excess.
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When r the Fluval FX clairifers comeing out.
Later this year! 👍
it blocks up far sooner than smooth hose
Hi there, that's actually not the case! As is shown at 2:57 of the video, third-party testing has demonstrated that regular plastic hosing clogs and experiences flow rate reductions far more rapidly and significantly than Fluval ribbed hosing.
i have to pull a bottle brush down the tudes every 2 weeks or so to remove the sludge from the tubes my tank isnt over stocked either i prefered my old fluval with smooth hoses @@fluval
I think in my opinion it's all about money and locking down it's ecosystem
I'm not convinced
Not really surprised
No damn clips included make it make sense
Hi there, what clips are you referring to?
I literally had to flush my hoses every five days. It’s annoying and tedious. Number 1 problem I have. Offer both. You say it saves times but only for the install. In the long haul it wastes time because the ribbed hoses get clogged very quickly and you have to waste time taking them off and cleaning them every couple days
Hi there, we're sorry to hear about this. There shouldn't be any reason the ribbed hosing of your filter needs to be cleaned every 5 days - doing so once every 6 months, while the filter is being maintained, is generally sufficient. It sounds as if there's something wrong with your filter installation, so we encourage you to contact our customer support team for assistance: fluvalaquatics.com/us/contact-us/
Ribbed for your pleasure
Its ribbed for your pleasure!
I see no one has a sense of humor around here.
I do...🤣🤣🤣hella funny🤣🤣🤣
Cleaning tool I made...🤣🧰🤣
VERSION 1
1. Slightly stiff baby bottle brush, etc. If possible, slightly larger than tubing 2 reach n2 the ribbing. (4 both versions.)
2. Cord, the length of the longest tube, then add foot and a half 2 it.***
3. 1 heavy nut, screw, etc.
Tie the cord 2 the handle of brush. The nut 2 the other end of cord. Drop the nut n2 the tubing and pull thru a few times during cleaning.
Orrrrrrrrrr...
VERSION 2 (More efficient)
***1. PVC pipe that will fit inside TUBING with wiggle room and the handle of the brush will fit inside PVC.
PVC pipe measurement: HALF the length of the longest TUBING, then add half the length of that half 2 that.
So the PVC should be just longer than the middle point of ur longest TUBING.
U can also just opt out 2 the same length of the longest tubing. Just be sure 2 make it long enough 2 hold the end comfortably. Even add a handle if u like.
Glue the handle n2 one end of PVC pipe. This version will allow u 2 turn the brush on the inside. Clean down as far u can by twisting in an up and down motion. Remove, flip the tubing and repeat.
Hope this helps someone.😜💙