I bake a lot of cakes and brownies in my Omnia over a GasOne butane burner and have never burned any of them. I do put the wire rack under the silicone insert and keep the burner flame as low as possible. I rarely preheat the steel ring first. One of my favorites is pineapple upside down cake, which has a lot of butter and brown sugar in the bottom. If I cook biscuits or scones, I put the rack in over the silicone liner. Works great for me!
Mine doesn’t burn anything either; I use mine for baking scones, lasagne , roast chicken , anything you would normally do in oven really. I use the rack as well for baking, love my omnia
Hi. Good demonstration. I learned something when you did the eggs. I bought my Omnia for backcountry camping... its reasonably lightweight. I also have a small MSR stove that I use with the Ommia. I have only used it a couple of times to bake brownie or blondie, but it hasn't burned. I don't use the silicone liner or the rack... but if I had a two burner camp stove like yours, I would bake with the wire rack under the silicone. Thanks again for your demo. I made a 3 minute demo (before I saw yours) and I show the bottom of my blondie. Happy cooking!
I have used the wire ring to elevate the silicone insert to help reduce burning on the bottom. The top of the ‘dough’ is higher in the oven. You get a more even cook.
I do think the thing is touchy with the burners. I have used it on my indoor home gas stove and a small 2 burner camp chef. Some stoves are just better at maintaining a low flame. I am still playing with it. Bake goods are definitely the most challenging thing to make. And what works for one person doesn’t work for another.
Thanks for sharing your experience! I also have burnt brownies in mine. I use a Coleman propane camp stove but am about to attempt baking bread in the omnia I see some people say to put the rack down and silicone insert on top. Will give it a go and hopefully it doesn’t burn
I think it is much more common problem than YT videos would suggest. I tried the rack down and it really didn't do the trick for me but check out this follow up video I did as I think it has real promise to make the Omnia a lasting part of a camping cookset. ruclips.net/video/xoyjm590HCk/видео.htmlsi=iVethm6_2oMcS5Gw
I have had good success using the Omnia with one of those butane stoves (I think around 7000 or 8000 BTU). I preheat on high but then turn the butane stove on almost as low as it can go. Cooking times are about what you would expect. I have made cornbread, cakes, pizza, lasagna, etc. I do this in my camper van as cooking outside can alter the temp too much.
Since my earlier comment I’ve been out with my campchef 2 burner (20K BTU each burner) and had a few more cooks. The flame has to be very low. For baked goods … use the silicone liner and stick it on the wire rack. I made a dump cake in the silicone liner on top of the rack. Peach pie filling in bottom, next a layer of chopped red chile pecans, next the dry cake mix, on top a 1/2 stick of melted butter). I cooked it very low and slow so that the dome temp was about 275 degrees. I can’t remember how long. It turned out really good. I also made a meatloaf in it that tasted good but looked ugly in the pan …. next time i will use the wire rack and put some parchment paper on it so the grease can drip down. Burning can be avoided and the finished cook edible. This trip I will do an apple dump cake and a layered taco casserole.
I'm thinking to place the Wire Rack under the Silicone Insert then add Baker's Parchment Paper inside of the Silicone Insert before adding your baking foods of choice...much like you would do for Meatloaf when using the Trangia STORMCOOKER kit. That should, in theory, work much better.
Great video Dick. I already have Trangia (and its gas burner), the Omni oven, and the firebox stove. I didn't realise that the Trangia burner, the Omnia, and firebox stoves were all compatible. Great video, thanks!
Thanks for watching and checking out the channel. All you need for the burner to work in the Firebox are the two mounting "pins" and a brief bit of practice threading the hose through and it works great.
Just ordered my Omnia so your videos are essential viewing in my opinion. I intend to use mine with a Trangia 25 with either the Trangia gas burner or the new Firebox stove wood flame gas burner. This has a small gas burner head with a very small gas flame on low the interesting thing is it come with a titanium heat diffuser that can be put on top of the gas burner head. This may well be the ideal burner for the omnia. As someone else suggested a heat sink in the bottom might help, in my zebra Billy with baking rack I have used ceramic baking beads, these work well to spread the heat(that’s what they were designed for) and I have also used hammed metal spheres (hammered stops them rolling around so much) also used ball bearings, might work in the Omnia but were a pain in the Billy used in it’s side as they were always falling out.
Let me know what you think of the Firebox burner. I didn’t have great luck with mine but someone pointed out that it may be due to mine being a first run.
@@dickinaroundoutdoors8609 Just started following your channel and I realise you have made a video on this subject. I have only just got the Firebox burner and my limited testing has been with a Trangia 25, it has worked well with this but conditions were perfect. When the wind is up I will give it a try, seems it’s not going to be great in a lot of gear I hoped it would work in when windy without a windShield.
@@SnowyAspenHills I don't think the Firebox is a bad burner per se, but I don't think that it stacks up to the Trangia. That was the message I tried to get across in the video. I did that because I tested the Firebox skillet against my well use Banks Fry-Bake and, although the Fry-Bake came out on top the Firebox is a very solid competitor that I would certainly recommend for those wanting to save some money. Not so the burner, but everyone has their own experiences.
@@dickinaroundoutdoors8609 Fry bake pan is nice but not possible to purchase in UK, I haven’t found anywhere selling presently and importing is very expensive. I will have to stick to the Firebox pans, not a bad frying pan /skillet though.
Glad you got this recorded before Happy Hour began. It seems like an interesting tool. Makes sense what you said about using low-heat burners like in a camper. Flame tamer is a nice idea to try. Great info Dick!
For sure, Happy Hour must endure! I continue to figure this oven out but with some practice it can likely do what you want it to do. I am not sure how to fade a rating on a product that I have to take time to figure out however.
I hope you have seen my follow up videos as I think I have found a solution using the flame tamer that is a great work around. I have more cooking to do but so ar this seems like the solution for me.
A great thorough review. I think that design is awesome except for the fact it is made out of thin aluminum. It’s like cooking with a cheap mess kit. Using a cast aluminum body would be better like an oven roaster, or even better would be cast-iron. I was wondering if you placed that on a cast-iron pan or cast iron flat griddle when using the gas stove, if that would work. It might increase your cooking time. It also might work well inside a solar oven.
I am still trying to work out the aluminum cookware for camping, between this thin Omnia and my very thick cast Woody Dutch Oven I still have not decided what I think. This works fine if you keep the head down and give it time, but sadly not all camp stoves are able to simmer at a low enough heat as I found out in my review.
The comments have led me to the same conclusion and I am planning on doing a follow up to test that method. It will be (I am hoping) the week of May 1st as travel has really picked up. So keep an eye out for that and let's see if I can replicate their success.
I am SO glad I stumbled on your video! I have been having the exact same issues with burning while using the Omnia on my Coleman camping stove. I cannot get the heat down low enough. I will try your suggestions. Thank you!
Great review! I have a Camp Chef oven and it works awesome but is bigger. I have been looking into an oven I could use while backpacking and stumbled across a man who made one with plumbers felt or whatever it's called. But the Omnia would be great for the times I dont want to bring my Camp Chef Oven for car camping. Thanks again
I am glad you found it helpful, it is a nice lightweight pan but it does take some experience to manage to use it without burning baked goods. That Camp Chef oven looks really nice!
Hey!! I found you somewhere.. Saw your name and subscribed.. 🤔👋😁 I was gifted an omni oven.. still haven't used it! Look forward to seeing how you use it! Thanks!
Don't give up entirely as I have done follow up vids and think I have found a solution if your stove runs too hot. You can see it here - ruclips.net/video/xoyjm590HCk/видео.htmlsi=ABrc_ex6u5ubX24x
I am glad you found it helpful. Be sure to check out my follow up video where I think I have cracked the code, at least for my stoves! You can see it here - ruclips.net/video/xoyjm590HCk/видео.htmlsi=eyjczrsxGGa-32Tl
Excellent review, sir! That is a very interesting device for sure. Excellent job of showing us exactly what will work and not work. Although I stay in campers most of the time during the week, I’m very lucky to have electricity, running water and the luxuries of home. If any of those things were not available, I would simply go to sonic. Lol take care my friend.
I have tried that with little success, perhaps my burners don’t go low enough. BUT I do think I cracked the code. You can check out my video here where I have the success I was looking for! STOP OMNIA BURNING! ruclips.net/video/xoyjm590HCk/видео.html
It’s in my playlist for later! Just now finding out about these and watching all the video to decide if I want to invest. Thanks for the response! Love the channel name 😊
Those are a standard pot gripper for camping. You can get similar ones at most camping stores. Here are a few to get you started in the search. Amazon (price varies by color) - amzn.to/3OoofHs Firebox Stove - fireboxstove.com/product/long-pan-pot-lifter/ and one from MSR which is more expensive but I think is a better built product - amzn.to/46X2kP4 Unless you are planning to use it all the time you probably don't want to pay up for the MSR. I have read that the first one listed from Amazon works very well. The Firebox one listed is the one I used in the video, it worked fine but I do see and feel where they made manufacturing decisions to fit the price point. I hope this helps. Note the Amazon links are affiliate links which means that you don't pay any additional but we get a very small commission to help support the channel.
Did you use the track under the silicone mold? You may have been missing that piece! I bake all kinds of things in mine at home and on the road, and it works great. IF YOU USE THE RACK. 😉
You will have seen my other reply and hopefully followed my results. I don't think the thermometer in the Omnia really (my opinion) is useful as in my experience the bottom is clearly hotter than the top air. In many cases having the thermometer over the colder food that you are cooking also impacts the readings. It is clear to me that the Omnia has a devoted following so all I can share is my experience as the oven was meant to be used by the manufacturer. My follow up video did use the rack, which didn't change my opinion, but also if that is what is needed to use the oven without burning my suggestion would be that Omnia only sell the oven with those accessories included.
Hi Dick! Is it possible to line the bottom of the stainless steel ring with a little sand or some other fireproof material when cooking the brownies? Not ideal but might provide a little insulation to prevent the burn. Sand would be a material that would likely be at or closeby most campsites. Also, for the biscuits w/o rack, try lining the cone with a little crumpled aluminum foil. A small air gap might solve the hot spot.
That is not a bad idea to see if that would make a difference. In all honesty I do think this was designed for small camper burners and they are now marketing it to an audience that, perhaps, uses different equipment and we just have to figure out how, and if, we want to allocate the time to figure it out. Heck you can burn things in a cast iron dutch oven until you learn how to use it too so maybe not that big of a deal.
I have used ceramic baking beads in a different setup, they work well to spread heat evenly and prevent burning, that’s what they are designed to do for blind baking pastry.
You bring up a good point-I don't disagree conceptually and don't use bare aluminum for long cooking of acidic foods, ex. I would never simmer a tomato based pasta sauce for hours. Short term and diluted as in a casserole etc I don't really avoid that in any pan.
Just wondering (I just bought an Omnia and am trying to find out what the pros and cons are): would it be an idea to put water in the lower ring to prevent burning the food?
I think the concept makes sense as does someone's below about using sand. With water I fear that it would evaporate pretty quickly as the bottom pan is pretty shallow. Che3ck out my most recent Omnia video as I think I have found a workable solution.
Check out my follow up video in which I think that I have found the solution for the folks that suffer from Omnia scortching. You can check that out here if you are interested- ruclips.net/video/xoyjm590HCk/видео.html
It is a standard camping pot lifter. They work great for any pans without a handle but some pans are angled differently and have their own lifters. www.amazon.com/camping-pot-grabber/s?k=camping+pot+grabber
I have seen the Skotti and it looks like a very nice piece of gear. At this point I don't have plans to purchase one but things can certainly change, it is probably time to turn over some of my gear!
From Omnia's website- No. Induction provides only bottom heat, which is insufficient. The stainless-steel base of the Omnia is magnetic, which means it does work on an induction stovetop, but the bowl shape means it usually will not get hot enough. Also, an induction stovetop does not produce hot air that can rise and produce top heat. You should not use the Omnia on an induction stove.
The Omnia oven is a modernized version of the Israeli "Wonder Pot". The oven needs a low, wide flame for best results. On my DIY version, I coated the outside bottom of the cooking pan with high-temp aluminum paint to help prevent burning.
They are an interesting stove-looks great but hard to get sorted out in my opinion, but gotta keep trying. I am going to do a follow up video using some of the thoughts from below to see if it helps. The problem with my camping stoves is wide and low often don't go together very well!
@@gedeon2696 That is what I was thinking when I mentioned a flame tamer but I have not had the chance to test that yet. I will have a look at that in the follow up test.
I got in an argument with a campground host one time. They had a restriction on open flames. I started up my barbecue using charcoal. By definition charcoal is not an open flame. I know, as a former peace officer we had burn restrictions in the summertime against open flames in the hilly areas. So we had to go by the legal definition.
in my area an open flame is defined as any heat source that can't be instantly controlled or extinguished. this also includes alcohol stoves that don't have any kind of snuffing device.
I don't think the burner is that important but you need to put the wire grid underneath the silicon insert io not to burn your brownies or any other stuff.
That is one thing that I tried but it then didn't seem to brown the bottom as well. I have finally landed on putting flame tamer under it and that seems to be the ticket to more success when baking. From all the comments though it really seems that this oven is very sensitive to the burner being used.
After many similar comments I did a follow up video utilizing this method. Perhaps using brownies is not the best food but you can see my tests here - ruclips.net/video/R-gjNIBuvOA/видео.html I guess at the end of the day everyone's experience and expectations are a bit different.
@dickinaroundoutdoors8609 for sure! I saw the other video after. I just made 2 dozen egg bites yesterday and they are perfect. Better than Starbucks. Cooked with thermometer in, rack in, and muffin cup mold used. It certainly could be the product being cooked! Thanks for replying. And for a great video share. I admit... I did burn the first two or three things I filled in it but with practice, you get it down.
@@JodiDiGaetano-AGG Thanks for watching and commenting. I am glad you are having success and I will keep messing with mine but also have the Coleman oven (has bottom burning issues as well) and some other options I am testing out. At the end of the day my cast iron dutch oven is still my favorite when a live fire is allowed!
@@dickinaroundoutdoors8609 oh indeed! Cast iron is the way to go if you don't mind the extra weight. I cook with cast iron at home, too. Good luck with the testing, too!
FIRST OF ALL I THINK YOU NEED TO PUT WATER INTO THE BOTTOM PAN OR BASE PLATE IT WOULD BE MY OPINION. IT WOULD HELP KEEP IT FROM BURNING THE BOTTOM. JUST MY OPINION.
I might try that-there is nothing about adding water to the base, it is actually pretty shallow, in the instructions and I have never spoken with anyone who has used this method.
That makes sense but with so many places instituting fire bans our classic dutch ovens are facing some of their own challenges. I was looking for something that would bake on a camp stove and am still working to figure out my Woody Dutch Oven to see if that is a viable alternative. Thanks for checking us out!
Not sure but I beleive that you require the thermostat to cook brownies, you don't even know how warm it is without it and you could have bring the heat down. For the ones who got a Omnia oven, do I ABSOLUTELY need to buy the rack (grill) to go with it
I have seen the thermometer but I am not sure I would find it useful as it appears it reads right above the food, which I believe would give an inaccurate reading of oven temp, but since this is a cooking vessel I am not sure how that would work. Most people that have commented say that you do need the silicone insert and rack to stop the burning. I am planning a follow up test to see so be on the lookout for that!
@@dickinaroundoutdoors8609 I bought a cheaper (than Omni) BBq thermometer. I find it is a great guide. I widened one of the vent holes and stick it through, then thread the securing nut from inside. I take it off after use only takes seconds.
If you don't know how to use a product correctly, you shouldn't title a video as a review. Also, there is no such thing as bad brownies. 😁 Just my two cents.
I bake a lot of cakes and brownies in my Omnia over a GasOne butane burner and have never burned any of them. I do put the wire rack under the silicone insert and keep the burner flame as low as possible. I rarely preheat the steel ring first. One of my favorites is pineapple upside down cake, which has a lot of butter and brown sugar in the bottom. If I cook biscuits or scones, I put the rack in over the silicone liner. Works great for me!
Thanks for the tips and for dropping by.
Mine doesn’t burn anything either; I use mine for baking scones, lasagne , roast chicken , anything you would normally do in oven really. I use the rack as well for baking, love my omnia
Hi. Good demonstration. I learned something when you did the eggs.
I bought my Omnia for backcountry camping... its reasonably lightweight. I also have a small MSR stove that I use with the Ommia. I have only used it a couple of times to bake brownie or blondie, but it hasn't burned. I don't use the silicone liner or the rack... but if I had a two burner camp stove like yours, I would bake with the wire rack under the silicone. Thanks again for your demo. I made a 3 minute demo (before I saw yours) and I show the bottom of my blondie. Happy cooking!
Same
Why do you put the rack in over the silicone with biscuits?
I have used the wire ring to elevate the silicone insert to help reduce burning on the bottom. The top of the ‘dough’ is higher in the oven. You get a more even cook.
Great tip. Thy are not the easiest cookers to use and any hints are always welcome! Thanks for checking us out.
I do think the thing is touchy with the burners. I have used it on my indoor home gas stove and a small 2 burner camp chef. Some stoves are just better at maintaining a low flame. I am still playing with it. Bake goods are definitely the most challenging thing to make. And what works for one person doesn’t work for another.
Interesting video. I use a heat diffuser on my kitchen stove when ever I want to simmer slmet
Wow, I have never simmered simet, what is it? Just kidding-thanks for watching!
Thanks for sharing your experience! I also have burnt brownies in mine. I use a Coleman propane camp stove but am about to attempt baking bread in the omnia
I see some people say to put the rack down and silicone insert on top. Will give it a go and hopefully it doesn’t burn
I think it is much more common problem than YT videos would suggest. I tried the rack down and it really didn't do the trick for me but check out this follow up video I did as I think it has real promise to make the Omnia a lasting part of a camping cookset. ruclips.net/video/xoyjm590HCk/видео.htmlsi=iVethm6_2oMcS5Gw
This was very impressive how the food came out this would be so handy for outdoor camping excellent review thanks for sharing have a good weekend
Thanks for dropping by and you have a great weekend as well.
I have had good success using the Omnia with one of those butane stoves (I think around 7000 or 8000 BTU). I preheat on high but then turn the butane stove on almost as low as it can go. Cooking times are about what you would expect. I have made cornbread, cakes, pizza, lasagna, etc. I do this in my camper van as cooking outside can alter the temp too much.
I think any solutions and ideas to help people use these is great. Thanks for sharing.
Since my earlier comment I’ve been out with my campchef 2 burner (20K BTU each burner) and had a few more cooks. The flame has to be very low. For baked goods … use the silicone liner and stick it on the wire rack. I made a dump cake in the silicone liner on top of the rack. Peach pie filling in bottom, next a layer of chopped red chile pecans, next the dry cake mix, on top a 1/2 stick of melted butter). I cooked it very low and slow so that the dome temp was about 275 degrees. I can’t remember how long. It turned out really good. I also made a meatloaf in it that tasted good but looked ugly in the pan …. next time i will use the wire rack and put some parchment paper on it so the grease can drip down. Burning can be avoided and the finished cook edible. This trip I will do an apple dump cake and a layered taco casserole.
Thanks for the useful comments. I am planning a follow up video so be on the lookout for that one!
I'm thinking to place the Wire Rack under the Silicone Insert then add Baker's Parchment Paper inside of the Silicone Insert before adding your baking foods of choice...much like you would do for Meatloaf when using the Trangia STORMCOOKER kit. That should, in theory, work much better.
you can put a little water in the steel pan as well to help keep the temp at the bottom lower
I will have to try that-does it evaporate over time but give enough insulation to get stuff cooked before it burns? Thanks for the hint.
@@dickinaroundoutdoors8609 depending on the cook time yeah you can easy top up with more as needed though but have found it does the trick
Great video Dick. I already have Trangia (and its gas burner), the Omni oven, and the firebox stove. I didn't realise that the Trangia burner, the Omnia, and firebox stoves were all compatible. Great video, thanks!
Thanks for watching and checking out the channel. All you need for the burner to work in the Firebox are the two mounting "pins" and a brief bit of practice threading the hose through and it works great.
Just ordered my Omnia so your videos are essential viewing in my opinion.
I intend to use mine with a Trangia 25 with either the Trangia gas burner or the new Firebox stove wood flame gas burner. This has a small gas burner head with a very small gas flame on low the interesting thing is it come with a titanium heat diffuser that can be put on top of the gas burner head. This may well be the ideal burner for the omnia.
As someone else suggested a heat sink in the bottom might help, in my zebra Billy with baking rack I have used ceramic baking beads, these work well to spread the heat(that’s what they were designed for) and I have also used hammed metal spheres (hammered stops them rolling around so much) also used ball bearings, might work in the Omnia but were a pain in the Billy used in it’s side as they were always falling out.
Let me know what you think of the Firebox burner. I didn’t have great luck with mine but someone pointed out that it may be due to mine being a first run.
@@dickinaroundoutdoors8609 Just started following your channel and I realise you have made a video on this subject. I have only just got the Firebox burner and my limited testing has been with a Trangia 25, it has worked well with this but conditions were perfect. When the wind is up I will give it a try, seems it’s not going to be great in a lot of gear I hoped it would work in when windy without a windShield.
@@SnowyAspenHills I don't think the Firebox is a bad burner per se, but I don't think that it stacks up to the Trangia. That was the message I tried to get across in the video. I did that because I tested the Firebox skillet against my well use Banks Fry-Bake and, although the Fry-Bake came out on top the Firebox is a very solid competitor that I would certainly recommend for those wanting to save some money. Not so the burner, but everyone has their own experiences.
@@dickinaroundoutdoors8609 Fry bake pan is nice but not possible to purchase in UK, I haven’t found anywhere selling presently and importing is very expensive. I will have to stick to the Firebox pans, not a bad frying pan /skillet though.
Glad you got this recorded before Happy Hour began. It seems like an interesting tool. Makes sense what you said about using low-heat burners like in a camper. Flame tamer is a nice idea to try. Great info Dick!
For sure, Happy Hour must endure! I continue to figure this oven out but with some practice it can likely do what you want it to do. I am not sure how to fade a rating on a product that I have to take time to figure out however.
Good video. What kind of fuel were you using with your Trangia? It looks like a propane bottle and I have never seen Trangia use just propane.
Good review. Thanks. And where's your yellow shirt?
Well, you know those moody actor types-the shirt was mad because Camera Lady made fun of it and it was pouting in it's trailer.
Hope you do a follow-up video after experimenting more with it. I really am looking to buy one.
I hope you have seen my follow up videos as I think I have found a solution using the flame tamer that is a great work around. I have more cooking to do but so ar this seems like the solution for me.
A great thorough review. I think that design is awesome except for the fact it is made out of thin aluminum. It’s like cooking with a cheap mess kit. Using a cast aluminum body would be better like an oven roaster, or even better would be cast-iron.
I was wondering if you placed that on a cast-iron pan or cast iron flat griddle when using the gas stove, if that would work. It might increase your cooking time. It also might work well inside a solar oven.
I am still trying to work out the aluminum cookware for camping, between this thin Omnia and my very thick cast Woody Dutch Oven I still have not decided what I think. This works fine if you keep the head down and give it time, but sadly not all camp stoves are able to simmer at a low enough heat as I found out in my review.
@@dickinaroundoutdoors8609 well for me, cast-iron is the best hands down. I I would get one of those old Coleman ovens that fit on the gas grills.
@@MarkKratzMC I have the Coleman that I will work on next
Thank you for this video! I'm looking to get the Omnia; I would love to see your results when using the rack under the silicone mold.
The comments have led me to the same conclusion and I am planning on doing a follow up to test that method. It will be (I am hoping) the week of May 1st as travel has really picked up. So keep an eye out for that and let's see if I can replicate their success.
I am SO glad I stumbled on your video! I have been having the exact same issues with burning while using the Omnia on my Coleman camping stove. I cannot get the heat down low enough. I will try your suggestions. Thank you!
We should stat a club! Check out my follow up video as I think the flame tamer has some potential to help with the problem.
My campstove was carefully researched to have capability for a very low flame, unlike almost all other campstoves. It's a Eureka Ignite!
Great review! I have a Camp Chef oven and it works awesome but is bigger. I have been looking into an oven I could use while backpacking and stumbled across a man who made one with plumbers felt or whatever it's called. But the Omnia would be great for the times I dont want to bring my Camp Chef Oven for car camping. Thanks again
I am glad you found it helpful, it is a nice lightweight pan but it does take some experience to manage to use it without burning baked goods.
That Camp Chef oven looks really nice!
Hey!! I found you somewhere.. Saw your name and subscribed.. 🤔👋😁
I was gifted an omni oven.. still haven't used it! Look forward to seeing how you use it! Thanks!
Thanks for watching and the sub! Best of luck with the oven and I hope I helped you be successful with it in some small way.
@@dickinaroundoutdoors8609 well.. someday that omni oven will pop into one of my vids.. 🤣 stay tuned? Lol🤷♀️
Glad I watched this before buying one.
Don't give up entirely as I have done follow up vids and think I have found a solution if your stove runs too hot. You can see it here - ruclips.net/video/xoyjm590HCk/видео.htmlsi=ABrc_ex6u5ubX24x
@@dickinaroundoutdoors8609 thank you I will watch that. 👍🙂
Meatloaf works good in these.
Use a thermometer.
Don't really mind a little burned bottom.
try olive oil instead of pam
I will give that a try-thanks for the tip and for checking out the channel.
Great review! The comparison was helpful
I am glad you found it helpful. Be sure to check out my follow up video where I think I have cracked the code, at least for my stoves! You can see it here - ruclips.net/video/xoyjm590HCk/видео.htmlsi=eyjczrsxGGa-32Tl
Thank you so much for this review, very useful!
Thanks for dropping by the channel.
Excellent review, sir! That is a very interesting device for sure. Excellent job of showing us exactly what will work and not work. Although I stay in campers most of the time during the week, I’m very lucky to have electricity, running water and the luxuries of home. If any of those things were not available, I would simply go to sonic. Lol take care my friend.
I am not sure you could create a very good Cherry-Limeaid in this bad boy! Thanks for dropping by.
Do you think cooking the biscuits in the silicone would prevent them from burning on the edges?
I have tried that with little success, perhaps my burners don’t go low enough. BUT I do think I cracked the code. You can check out my video here where I have the success I was looking for!
STOP OMNIA BURNING!
ruclips.net/video/xoyjm590HCk/видео.html
It’s in my playlist for later! Just now finding out about these and watching all the video to decide if I want to invest. Thanks for the response! Love the channel name 😊
Great video, thank you.
Where did you get the oven grip handle?
Those are a standard pot gripper for camping. You can get similar ones at most camping stores. Here are a few to get you started in the search. Amazon (price varies by color) - amzn.to/3OoofHs Firebox Stove - fireboxstove.com/product/long-pan-pot-lifter/ and one from MSR which is more expensive but I think is a better built product - amzn.to/46X2kP4 Unless you are planning to use it all the time you probably don't want to pay up for the MSR. I have read that the first one listed from Amazon works very well. The Firebox one listed is the one I used in the video, it worked fine but I do see and feel where they made manufacturing decisions to fit the price point.
I hope this helps. Note the Amazon links are affiliate links which means that you don't pay any additional but we get a very small commission to help support the channel.
@@dickinaroundoutdoors8609 Thank you, I just ordered one from Amazon.
This is a really good video - Many thanks
I am glad you found it helpful-don;t forget to watch my two follow up Omnia videos as well. Have a great day.
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The wire rack makes a big difference under the silicone and silicone cups help to.
I am planning to test that as a follow up as so many folks have mentioned that as a work around.
I bought the omni oven and I put a thermometer in it
Do you find that it helps to cook in the oven?
Exellent review this Omniva Oven it looks interesting but it's obviously not without it's flaws and good idea with the flame tamer too!
Thanks for swinging by. It is one that takes some practice I think, but in my mind that is not a good thing in camping cookware.
Did you use the track under the silicone mold? You may have been missing that piece! I bake all kinds of things in mine at home and on the road, and it works great. IF YOU USE THE RACK. 😉
You will have seen my other reply and hopefully followed my results. I don't think the thermometer in the Omnia really (my opinion) is useful as in my experience the bottom is clearly hotter than the top air. In many cases having the thermometer over the colder food that you are cooking also impacts the readings.
It is clear to me that the Omnia has a devoted following so all I can share is my experience as the oven was meant to be used by the manufacturer. My follow up video did use the rack, which didn't change my opinion, but also if that is what is needed to use the oven without burning my suggestion would be that Omnia only sell the oven with those accessories included.
This is very interesting and it bring some ideas of use to mind.
I just takes time learn and the proper equipment I think to make it work, I am not sure that is a good thing though.
Interesting oven, it's seems it definitely was made for specific burners like you said. Great tests, sad to see the brownies thou.
Not to worry-they were totally sacrificial brownies for the review! Thanks for dropping by.
Ive done plenty brownies ....if u put bake rack theyll come out great👍
@@lolacasanova2000 It sounds like I have a follow up video in the making that tests the reconfiguration of the oven!
Have you done a follow up video with the flame tamer?
Yes, I did post one. You can see it here- ruclips.net/video/xoyjm590HCk/видео.htmlsi=62EyguDvs-3GsXKg
Hi Dick! Is it possible to line the bottom of the stainless steel ring with a little sand or some other fireproof material when cooking the brownies? Not ideal but might provide a little insulation to prevent the burn. Sand would be a material that would likely be at or closeby most campsites. Also, for the biscuits w/o rack, try lining the cone with a little crumpled aluminum foil. A small air gap might solve the hot spot.
That is not a bad idea to see if that would make a difference. In all honesty I do think this was designed for small camper burners and they are now marketing it to an audience that, perhaps, uses different equipment and we just have to figure out how, and if, we want to allocate the time to figure it out. Heck you can burn things in a cast iron dutch oven until you learn how to use it too so maybe not that big of a deal.
I have used ceramic baking beads in a different setup, they work well to spread heat evenly and prevent burning, that’s what they are designed to do for blind baking pastry.
I have concern about the tomatoes reacting to the aluminum. The Omnia website says to "avoid foods with high acid and/or salt content."
You bring up a good point-I don't disagree conceptually and don't use bare aluminum for long cooking of acidic foods, ex. I would never simmer a tomato based pasta sauce for hours. Short term and diluted as in a casserole etc I don't really avoid that in any pan.
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Just wondering (I just bought an Omnia and am trying to find out what the pros and cons are): would it be an idea to put water in the lower ring to prevent burning the food?
I think the concept makes sense as does someone's below about using sand. With water I fear that it would evaporate pretty quickly as the bottom pan is pretty shallow. Che3ck out my most recent Omnia video as I think I have found a workable solution.
I don’t have a gasburner. Can I use my electric burner?
I don't think you would get the required heat to the top of the oven, but that is just conjecture as I have no experience using electric.
Thank you now that is very important now I will take your advise great job
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Thanks for helping me save my money.
Check out my follow up video in which I think that I have found the solution for the folks that suffer from Omnia scortching. You can check that out here if you are interested-
ruclips.net/video/xoyjm590HCk/видео.html
What was that tool you used to pick up the oven. I need one of those
It is a standard camping pot lifter. They work great for any pans without a handle but some pans are angled differently and have their own lifters. www.amazon.com/camping-pot-grabber/s?k=camping+pot+grabber
Have you seen the SKOTTI folding gas barbecue grill from Germany ???? I would love to see your opinion of it. !!!
I have seen the Skotti and it looks like a very nice piece of gear. At this point I don't have plans to purchase one but things can certainly change, it is probably time to turn over some of my gear!
Is the bottom magnetic? Can it be heated up with induction electric stove?
From Omnia's website-
No. Induction provides only bottom heat, which is insufficient.
The stainless-steel base of the Omnia is magnetic, which means it does work on an induction stovetop, but the bowl shape means it usually will not get hot enough. Also, an induction stovetop does not produce hot air that can rise and produce top heat. You should not use the Omnia on an induction stove.
The Omnia oven is a modernized version of the Israeli "Wonder Pot".
The oven needs a low, wide flame for best results. On my DIY version, I coated the outside bottom of the cooking pan with high-temp aluminum paint to help prevent burning.
They are an interesting stove-looks great but hard to get sorted out in my opinion, but gotta keep trying. I am going to do a follow up video using some of the thoughts from below to see if it helps. The problem with my camping stoves is wide and low often don't go together very well!
@@dickinaroundoutdoors8609 That's where the "flame-tamer" comes in.
@@gedeon2696 That is what I was thinking when I mentioned a flame tamer but I have not had the chance to test that yet. I will have a look at that in the follow up test.
@gedeon2696 Do you have a video about your DIY oven?
Good info
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I got in an argument with a campground host one time. They had a restriction on open flames. I started up my barbecue using charcoal. By definition charcoal is not an open flame. I know, as a former peace officer we had burn restrictions in the summertime against open flames in the hilly areas. So we had to go by the legal definition.
For our purposes we always assume that any area that has a fire ban also bans charcoal grills, so we plan accordingly.
in my area an open flame is defined as any heat source that can't be instantly controlled or extinguished. this also includes alcohol stoves that don't have any kind of snuffing device.
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Very informative.
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Wow, thank you so much!
Seems like a waste of money to me, especially considering the price! It is expensive!
Some people have great success, others not so much. On my follow up video I did find a cheap solution that works for me so don't give up hope!
Parchment paper helps
Thanks for the tip.
I don't think the burner is that important but you need to put the wire grid underneath the silicon insert io not to burn your brownies or any other stuff.
Thanks for the tip.
Put wire rack under silicone and it will be all good
That is one thing that I tried but it then didn't seem to brown the bottom as well. I have finally landed on putting flame tamer under it and that seems to be the ticket to more success when baking.
From all the comments though it really seems that this oven is very sensitive to the burner being used.
Should have done the Grands in the mold on the rack. They wouldn't have burned. I don't see anyone using the thermometer in their videos either??
After many similar comments I did a follow up video utilizing this method. Perhaps using brownies is not the best food but you can see my tests here - ruclips.net/video/R-gjNIBuvOA/видео.html
I guess at the end of the day everyone's experience and expectations are a bit different.
@dickinaroundoutdoors8609 for sure! I saw the other video after. I just made 2 dozen egg bites yesterday and they are perfect. Better than Starbucks. Cooked with thermometer in, rack in, and muffin cup mold used.
It certainly could be the product being cooked! Thanks for replying. And for a great video share. I admit... I did burn the first two or three things I filled in it but with practice, you get it down.
@@JodiDiGaetano-AGG Thanks for watching and commenting. I am glad you are having success and I will keep messing with mine but also have the Coleman oven (has bottom burning issues as well) and some other options I am testing out. At the end of the day my cast iron dutch oven is still my favorite when a live fire is allowed!
@@dickinaroundoutdoors8609 oh indeed! Cast iron is the way to go if you don't mind the extra weight. I cook with cast iron at home, too. Good luck with the testing, too!
FIRST OF ALL I THINK YOU NEED TO PUT WATER INTO THE BOTTOM PAN OR BASE PLATE IT WOULD BE MY OPINION. IT WOULD HELP KEEP IT FROM BURNING THE BOTTOM. JUST MY OPINION.
I might try that-there is nothing about adding water to the base, it is actually pretty shallow, in the instructions and I have never spoken with anyone who has used this method.
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I think I would buy an aluminum dutch oven before I bought this item
That makes sense but with so many places instituting fire bans our classic dutch ovens are facing some of their own challenges. I was looking for something that would bake on a camp stove and am still working to figure out my Woody Dutch Oven to see if that is a viable alternative.
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Not sure but I beleive that you require the thermostat to cook brownies, you don't even know how warm it is without it and you could have bring the heat down. For the ones who got a Omnia oven, do I ABSOLUTELY need to buy the rack (grill) to go with it
I have seen the thermometer but I am not sure I would find it useful as it appears it reads right above the food, which I believe would give an inaccurate reading of oven temp, but since this is a cooking vessel I am not sure how that would work. Most people that have commented say that you do need the silicone insert and rack to stop the burning. I am planning a follow up test to see so be on the lookout for that!
@@dickinaroundoutdoors8609 I bought a cheaper (than Omni) BBq thermometer. I find it is a great guide. I widened one of the vent holes and stick it through, then thread the securing nut from inside. I take it off after use only takes seconds.
If you don't know how to use a product correctly, you shouldn't title a video as a review. Also, there is no such thing as bad brownies. 😁 Just my two cents.
On the second part 100% agree. On the first part I don't think it would be a great review if I wasn't honest in my experience.