Crucifying Your Own Son- Who Invented Crucifixion and How Does it Actually Kill You?
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- Опубликовано: 29 фев 2024
- Unlock the secrets of one of history's most brutal practices: CRUCIFIXION! Explore the origins, gruesome rituals, and agonizing details that shaped this iconic form of punishment.
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You missed out the Australian Aborigines have practise self crucifixion how far back it goes is unknown, they do it hanging from trees
Yeah, you NAILED it(Hyuk!)...ah, well, as long as you know you'll get away with it, go right ahead. Seriously, good job, folks.
just did this guy actually just matter-of-factly refer to the purported crucifixion of a Belgian soldier by Germans in World War One as if it Isn't an obvious example of baseless and ahistorical war propaganda
@@knuthamsun6106 and went on to say it was unsubstantiated and talk about the effect that the propaganda had, irrespective of if it was true or not. What's your point?
8:08 Who else was expecting that story about a German doctor in the 1940s to go in a much more gruesome direction?
I totally take your point, but if you reflect on it a bit you’ll realize that crucifixion would be totally unsuitable for the Nazis’ purposes. They were all about speed. They converted their gas-chambers from carbon-monoxide to Zyklon-B specifically because it killed twice as fast. Trying to kill hundreds of people at a time would become unmanageable if it took hours or days. This would not work for their assembly-line approach.
a few years later it definitely would though... lucky students it was only 1940
@@PetrSojnekWW 2 lasted from 1939 to 1945, so it happened during the war and at the hight of nazi power.
@@XofHope Yes, but the “Final Solution” had not yet been implemented.
100%. I wouldn't be suprised if experiments like that were carried out in German or Japanese camps, under realistic conditions and including an autopsy...
I did not expect a German doctor researching crucifixion in the 1940s to have used volunteers and leather straps.
Well, it is not like all German doctors were full-blown Nazis.. Remember that Germany was humiliated, by the treaty of Versailles, which made them ripe for propaganda, but most were still humans. But at its peak, only 12% of the German population was actually a member of the Nazi party. Thinking every citizen of Germany in the 1940s was a Nazi is like thinking every citizen of Afghanistan is a member or supporter of Taliban.
I do. The water they drank was bad back then
I believe they expected jews and nails instead of volunteers and straps@@falconeshield
Well the 1st half of the 1940's was WW2. It would have been the least inhumane thing they did back then.
When I heard the words "German" and "1940" I didn't expect the participants to be volunteers.
Just imagine being a vampire two thousand years ago and suddely finding yourself allergic to a lower case t.
Which is why I liked Castlevania's explanation of Vampires brains getting confused trying to process geometric shapes held too closely which makes them recoil.
The best part of that is that vampire legends have them extremely long-lived, but those fictional monsters weren't even invented until relatively recently, only being a bit over a thousand years old. So, that symbol's relevance actually predates the very idea of vampires.
"Always look on the bright side of life..."
*starts to whistle along*
Hahahahaha bro! I'm crying 😂
*whistling*
LMAO i love you i was about to comment that too oh my god
This reminds me why its so important to stand up for human rights
Ah, humans. The most cruel of all animals.
We're sapient for nothing. Still a slave to the ant brain.
That's why Jesus came, to give us an example of how to live kindly and compassiontely towards each other as we should have in the beginning.
@@legodavid9260 Sadly, His lessons don't seem to have stuck among many who call themselves Christian. They can be the most cruel of all.
@@legodavid9260You might wanna give right wing Americans a call and tell them they are utterly astray from His teachings
Homo Ferox
Under Nero, the Roman historian Tacitus reported Christians were fastened on crosses and burned to often be used as lighting:
“Mockery of every sort was added to their deaths. Covered with the skins of beasts, they were torn by dogs and perished, or were nailed to crosses, or were doomed to the flames and burnt, to serve as a nightly illumination, when daylight had expired.” Tacitus, Annals, 15.44
Jesus…
and their fluffy god stood back and laughed.
God seems to be okay with whatever happens. Some God. @@Refertech101
Groups of christian men would live in the outskirts of the city and would attack and raid. christians were criminals causing a lot of trouble for their fake magic guy. They washed history by making us think christians were persecuted
The details sounded even more painful than I thought
Orthopaedic nurse for 30 years. I can tell you from personal and professional experience that fracturing the calcaneum (heel bone) is the singularly most excruciatingly painful injury or illness that can occur. Having a nail driven through both would be enough to make the person pass out, at least until they were hoisted, and then subjected to the other atrocities that accompany a crucifixion.
The prophecy said that Jesus would not break one bone, so if they drove a nail through his heel, then that proves that Jesus was not the Messiah.
I mean…. There is cancer and stuff so I wouldn’t say the most painful/worst thing that can happen to a person.
“Crucifixion? Good… line on the left, one cross each!”
He's not the Messiah. He's a very naughty boy.
well they let me off....oh okay, off you go then
Crucifixion's a doddle
My name is Brian and so is my wife!
Always look on the bright side of life
I'm Brian Of Nazareth and so is my wife!
No way you've ever had a wife or even a gf living in your moms basement lol ole chunkalunk with a women that'll be the day
And a VERY NAUGHTY BOY🇬🇧💯🙏😁💓
We are the people's front of Judea. What happened to the Judean people's front? He's over there. Splitter! 😂😂😂 The funniest part was during the raid. "You haven't given us time to hide yet!"
Always look on the bright side of life 😂
I've been here five years.. they only hung me the right way up last week.
I vaguely remember watching a documentary on crucifiction that included a scientist experimenting on volunteers, using slings to hold the hands and feet, and how quickly their oxygen levels began to get wonky. None of them lasted more than an hour before the scientist was like "that's enough" and made them come down because they were having more and more difficulty breathing.
"Breif and Brutal," and YES YOU F&%$ING NAILED IT! 😂
No briefs - Loincloths
Learn to spell and use grown up words
@5:54 Simon pronounced the capital "I" as if it was a lowercase L. Latin used the letter i to do double duty for i and J.
Great video and writing
While making the movie The Greatest Story Ever Told, the director, after several takes, asked John Wayne, who was playing a centurion, to deliver his line with more awe.
John Wayne's final reading was "Aww, surely this was the Son of God!"
I remember when Xena got crucified by Julius Caesar and it was brutal on the show. Fully broke her ankles before crucifying her too.
Damn now that takes me back 😂
Warning, new religion will be formed.
😂
Ayiyyiyiy!
I so appreciate your narratives. Thank you. Love your speaking well.
Great video Simon, very interesting 👍👍
Hear about the Goth who tried to crucify himself?
He could never get the last nail in.
I can tell you for a fact, from personal experience, that even a 1/4 hour up on a cross in a re-enactment environment is brutal.
What was even more brutal was the hate I got from those who refused to believe there was ever more than one crucifiction.
Edit: I was cast as Spartacus for this display.
I didn't think the 'nailed it' pun was at all funny. In fact it made me very cross!
Badum tssss 😂
Also, Simon's delivery was a bit wooden.
@@pobsdadI'm not sure, I think he nailed it
Makes me thankful I wasn't born in Roman times
Why? Mankind was just as twisted as today but less focused on working until you die.
@@richardjones2811They used so much salt to preserve food most didn't live to work till age 55.
@@don2deliverYou have no idea how that works. Salted cod is still a staple of Portuguese cuisine. Do we eat all that salt? Of course not, we never did. The cod needs to be put in water for about 24 hours.
yeah because we are much more civil now and would never torture or hurt each other. lol
Love your content 😊😊😊
Growing up Catholic, not anymore, my father always told me the nails went in the wrists not the hand.
Weird how the Catholics have the stigmata in their hands. Suspicious 🤨
Interesting that the stigmata the Catholics believe in is always on the hands.
Stigmata 🤨 😂🤣
And it makes sense, actually. The palms cannot support that body weight.
My dad said the same thing but I also remember there being tons of iconography of the wounds being in his hand. I can remember specific stained glass that had it.
Thank you for remaining respectful throughout this video. Very insightful🍺🍺
Contrary to popular depictions in artwork, the nails would have been driven through the wrists not the hands. Otherwise the nail would have torn through their hand and they would have slipped off.
Though it's possible the victim might have been tied to the cross in addition to being nailed.
@Sam / video director, the flashing on the left for older video made sense initially, but became painful to watch for me. Thought it best to just let ya know.
"Crucifiction?
Go-o-o-o-od.
Line forms on the left.
One cross each."
Freedom for me 😀.
@@peglor "Oh, well, off you go!
God I love Monty python
I'm Brian!
@@rods6741 No I'm Brian, and so's my wife!
I’ve always wondered this.
Also, a spear in the side was often inflicted bc they would pierce the organs of the body like the liver, kidneys, stomach, and sometimes intestines so that the internal bodyfluids would fester out of the body so that the victims could literally feel the life draining out of their bodies and inflict mental anguish bc of the amount of irritation the leaking bodily fluids would cause. Bc it would feel like a bug crawling on your skin AND did in fact attract bugs into your body. Then there were the vultures, pecking away at your flesh and eating you alive, not being able to shoo them away. It is ridiculous how cruel humans can be
In Roman times crucifixtion was an involved and costly proceedure. Jesus would be crucified as he rebelled against the Roman empire, but what of the two thieves on the hill next to him. It was suggested that they were rebels against Rome as well.
You're right. The word in modern bibles is indeed thief. In the original Greek and Latin texts, the word used has the connotation of "Rebel". Sadly, this kind of mistranslation happens all too often.
The reason general public thinks the nail would go through the palm not a problem of accuracy, it’s because most people are not monsters daydreaming of the best way to drive the nail.sadly
Like I have just now.
12:23
No, they think it was through the hands because that's how about 90% of religious iconography depicted it.
Actually, it's a linguistic difference. In many languages, including ancient Hebrew (and modern Russian), there aren't distinct words for arm and hand. They use one word for the entire limb. So when translators encounter this word, they have to determine which was meant. Early translators translated it as hand, which led to the popular misconception. Artwork (which was much more accessible, especially to those who couldn't read) just solidified it in people's mind.
I went to a church of England primary school and every time we saw Jesus up on that cross, or anyone for that matter, the nails were in the palms and one nail through both feet as they were laid one on top of the other so the nail went through the top and soul of each foot. This was 30 odd years ago though.
I think it has something to do with some OT passage. Jesus had to have it driven through his hand. Back in those days, supposedly, the wrist was considered part of the hand,.
@@captainspaulding5963 No, he's not wrong. There's a reason 90% of religious iconography depicts it that way. It's because the artist are people just like anybody else, and most people are not monsters daydreaming of the best way to drive the nail.
oh my god, I think you killed me with the pun at the end, lol.
You could say he "nailed it"
You nailed it long time
I guess you nailed another great video.
That was a majorly relevant pun. 😂
I see us humans really do go all in when we want to inflict the maximum pain of an enemy.
No wonder the extraterrestrials won't drop us a line.
Imagine that there are no religions and that you land on another planet and see one of their nailed to a cross, even only a symbol. I'd get the hell out of there too!
Simon does a video on crucifixion. Damn! No sleep for me next 3 nights!
BSC baby! BSC!
Imagine how different Christianity would look if they had given Jesus the Vlad the Impaler look instead of crucifixion. Or a stretch rack. Or any other form of torturous capital punishment.
Well he wasn’t hung on the typical catholic cross that looks all neat and tidy. May have even been an X shape
@@multipl3Or a “T” shape. But we know the Romans occupying Judea at the time were responsible. If Jews executed him, it would have been by stoning.
Some of the symbols would differ, obviously. Something that had to be closely attended would not carry the same import, and it had to fit with cryptic references of suffering from the much earlier Hebrew psalms and later prophetic reference, integrated into the Jewish story as it was. Classic Christian faith expresses "mad respect" as it were for God to carry out something that graphic when every other manifestation of God before that was of something simply that would not suffer touching by the unholy. But God had the ability -- "once for all" -- to surrender for the sake of mercy. To forgive us our sins and to die for our sins, it turns out, are wrapped up in one thing.
Imagine if the Christian god could have just forgiven all sin. We mere mortals are expected to forgive those who sin against us, without the torture of some innocent third party.
@@timewave02012💯💯💯💯💯
😂yay you nailed it Simon....just hanging on every word...dying for next video.
Another bucket list video to Cross off😂
One of the details often omitted in crucifixion accounts--and definitely not shown in art!--is the fact that victims were forced to relieve themselves while fastened on the cross.
Jesus was never crucified. Some of the earlier manuscripts say "stake" instead of "cross.' The roman soldiers shoved a spear up Jesus' ass. That is how he died.
well it would oft happen as they where fastened, the bodies natural tendency in such situations.
How do you force someone to relieve themselves?
@@skydude426 My comment got cut off before finishing because I was interrupted. What I was trying to say was that if they needed to relieve themselves they would be forced to do it while on the cross in front of everyone. That was part of the humiliation.
@@theresemalmberg955 I don’t want to find out, but I think if I were nailed up on a cross to die, relieving myself in front of everyone would be of no concern.
I am considering myself as a creative person. But not that creative. This is an atrocity.
FWIW, in church growing up, we were taught the more medically accurate description of how crucifixion actually causes death, pretty much all of which was talked about here. It did help give a better sense of truly just how brutal and agonizing it was, and what all He went through for us.
STILL.... believe in fairy stories?
yes because we believe it really happened and no matter what you do you can't make us not believe just as you will never believe
@@gingercat777so it takes until what, less than a few hundred years ago for medical studies to confirm details of Jesus’s death that were not known at the time of His death, and you still hold onto the belief that it’s more likely He didn’t exist? Dude, what drugs are you on because I want some!
@@CharlietheWarlock Delusion is strong amongst the world of apologetics.
The Jesus story is repulsive for what Christians take from it, giving themselves a freepass. Own up, be responsible for your actions. Scapegoating is a hallmark of a coward.
Humans can be pretty hard on each other.
I think it goes beyond “pretty hard”
@@mikestaff3042 Yeah, I was definitely understating it.
I've wondered if the crucified person's family stayed with him/her until they died. It seems that watching a loved one die that way would be almost as horrific as actually dying that way yourself.
That's why the Romans did these things so publicly. They were counting on all the family, friends, and members of the community being so traumatized after witnessing this that they'd be too terrified to even think of stepping out of line.
If it were someone I loved, I would stay until they were gone.
Will AI ever take over the court reporting profession? Also, I had no idea that crucifixion affected breathing! How painful that would be to use your nailed up feet to hold yourself up to breathe...
Jesus Christ walks into an inn and hands the Inn keeper three nails and asks "can you put me up for the night"?
That’s a lot of trees
Thank you bur Wow!!
That last comment was definitely a Gilles Messier pun!
The unnecessary mass cruelty of humans toward other humans should no longer surprise me, yet it does.
I’m actually currently hip-deep in a Spartacus rewatch, having been in Italy these last few months… 🇮🇹
Wtf kind of monsters were these people. It's absolutely vile and I can not imagine my worst enemy going through, this let alone watching and cheering it on.
Get better enemies.
The same people who packed crowds into a stadium to watch people fight to the death or get eaten alive by lions.
One in Cambridgeshire, England? Tell us more!
By the legend St Peter asked the Roman’s to crucify him upside down because he wasn’t fit to die the same way as Christ. I am not Christian but I do respect the story.
That story seems to have its origin in the ancient text "The Acts of Peter". The story tells us that Peter meets a talking dog and a flying wizard, and he resurrects a dead fish. Peter eventually is condemned to death for teaching the ladies of the town that they should not have sexual relations even with their husbands.
This is the sort of thing that early Christians liked to write and read. Nothing they wrote can be trusted.
This video was like a summary of Game of Thrones. The crucifixions of Mereen, The sacrifice of Shireen by Stannis to bring victory in battle. The cross used by Ramsay Bolton to torture Theon.
Humans are very.. Shall we say, clever when it comes to inflicting pain. Very bored and very clever. It's quite sad really.
We are poor stewards. If God’s true intention was to leave us in charge of it of all of this, that was a grave mistake.
Nice explaination
You know when they say that someone had too much time on their hands?
It’s really bad when that someone happens to be a sadist/torturer/executioner
Yet another questionable thing Simon’s taught me 🤔😳
Romans did this on live trees sometimes. Also, the original word used in Greek manuscript was stauros, which was a straight pole, not a cross..
Oh i think we may have a Jehovah's Witness here.
@@philipcochran1972I was about to say the SAME thing…
Glad you through that in.
@@kendellbedenfieldjr9936Glad you through that in too. Idiot.
True. Jesus was never crucified and I doubt anyone was ever actually crucified. They were impaled.
When me and the boys go out into town on the weekend to get hammered... this is the last way on our minds to go about it.
I have never understood the human need to inflict on another person as much suffering as possible, especially when death is the deliberate outcome.
It’s not like they will learn a lesson and not do a wrong deed again.
Nope they suffered in a terrible way for nothing as they won’t even remember it once they have the release of death.
Others will. Isn't it obvious?
It's to make an example out of someone and to instill fear in everyone else so they wouldn't break the law.
I feel like a lot of people wouldn't have made it the suffocation bit before shock set it.
So the movie Jesus of Nazareth actually had the most accurate part of the crucifixion then... since they did just put the beam on his back and nail the wrists and ankles. I forgot what all they did with passion of the christ but i watched that movie a lot growing up
I always wondered why all the paintings show it through their hands.
I know the language didn't use a word that would tell the difference between a hand or wrist but some painters had to have seen some in person.
It is small things like this that made me basically agnostic. What other parts of the Bible are missing or so poorly translated that their meaning is lost forever.
Or translated for political reasons. A word can have several meanings, but you pick the one meaning that promotes your agenda versus what the author meant in context.
My favourite fun fact. The name 'Jehovah' doesn't exist. The writings referred to 'JHVH' and the Bible scribes filled in the wrong vowels. Later scholars established the name as 'Jahveh'
I'm not agnostic myself but I can understand and even relate to your comment. I still believe in God, but I also believe the Bible is scripture written by imperfect man that has been translated many times over. So between simple misrecollection, exaggeration (political or otherwise) and translation, it should be without saying we can't take it as 100% undeniable fact as some do. In my opinion the truth lies somewhere in between
Apparently it's something to do with "hand" including the forearm
@@jsteezy80 my brother in Christ, please watch some videos regarding how to do inductive studies of the Bible and ancient Jewish cultures. Knowing more about the Jewish culture in biblical times makes the Bible much more understandable
I never understood the use of a cross as a religious symbol.
I mean, if Christ here hanged, would be be using a noose as the symbol??
Consider that they were legit persecuted for a period, and had to gather in hiding.
They used symbols to communicate, and as trailheads in catacombs where they worshipped in hiding; the iconic Christian fish is another symbol we get from that period.
Exactly. You'd have to be a real narcissist to wanna make your followers wear that as a symbol. Just a constant guilt-trippy reminder.
@@GarrestheWarrior Jesus didn't dictate the symbols; see my comment above
@@GarrestheWarrior
I don't think anyone "made" the cross a symbol for people to wear.
Ummmm, no.... he was crucified, not lynched, pretty big difference
Theoretically, crucifixion is still one of the hadd (Hudud) punishments in Iran. If a crucified person were to survive three days of crucifixion, that person would be allowed to live.
Paragons of humanity. Glad to see idiot college students in the US are standing up for the Islamic faith which started the current war in Gaza and supports eradication of anyone who does not share their belief. UNLIKE Christianity where you won't find members going nuts and trying to kill you because you disrespected their lead prophet.
The "hand" in those times was considered to start mid forearm.
I've always heard that the term translated "hand" refers to a larger part than just the hand. We don't have an equivalent word in English.
You're onto something, even in Arabic a relative to the language that Jesus spoke, they refer to the foot as the bottom of the leg. Good catch
@ZeroOneInfinity it's not an assumption and 1 of my senior combat medics explained how this all worked in a catholic mass. The nail goes through a specific muscle group under the major veins so the circulation is cut off and the nail can rest between the wrist bones that were still considered the hand at the time. I would love to show a diagram of how it was explained to me where he showed the entry and exit and the technique of missing all the important stuff, but I digress, the end of the large forearm muscles were considered to be the start of the hand in those times.
@WeatherWonders before the 1300s the hand was everything from the major muscle group in the forearm and down. It included 6-8ish inches between the wrist and elbow.
I don't believe it. Nobody grabs you in the middle of your forearm and says, "I got your hand!!" Even thousands of years ago I don't believe half of the forearm was considered the hand. We should have EXACT proof of this as cutting off the hand was a common practice at the time. There is no doubt in my mind they didn't chop off half the forearm of every thief. You'll need to prove your statement.
Im sold
God sacrificed himself to himself to save us from what he will do to us if we don't tell him how awesome his kid (who is also him) is.
There is a flip side to this argument. If Jesus knew the future, He knew He’d rise in three days, thus, may not have given a darn. Or, if He could see into the future and see that most folks really didn’t care, He might have wondered why He wasted His time for a group of ingrates.
Whether you believe this or not, I’m not trying to discredit or dismiss your opinion. Just be aware that this theory seems like myths to many others
BTW, I think Hollywood did a "little" overwork" in this scene, 1.12?
Those crosses would not have been planed, on the "backside"?
Very informative for a hobby historian, though. Thank You.
from a Finn in Diaspora
I believe that since many crosses were REUSED, there were certainly ones that were planed on the backside. Maybe you refer to specific crosses that have been archaeologically recovered.
This is one of a few subjects that makes me " squeamish".😮
0:19 Elvis!
Hey, it was an improvement on what the Assyrians used to do to their criminals.
But not as bad as what the Abghusrenyus used to do!
Is there music faint in the background. It Was playing with my brain.
nah no music, only your insanity
@@ziggyinta thanks 😅
@@Zedsta glad i could help :)
Didn't notice on this one but there frequently is on several of his channels.
@FallenPhoenix86 I get some background music. This was just so low. Messed with my brain a little. Tho I was elevated lol.
No canonical text refers to the death of Saint Peter. Apart from the Acts of Peter, the earliest attestation that Saint Peter was executed by crucifixion is found in Adversus Gnosticos Scorpiace, a treatise composed by Tertullian in the first decade of the 3rd century
I was disappointed I didn't get abs like Jesus. Cross Fit is a scam.
God of War: Resurrection
He fights Jesus but Jesus can just keep resurrecting. He has to find a new weapon to beat Jesus. The weapon turns out to be a cross.
some genius thought about carnivorous birds who don't have to share food with creatures who walk or crawl on land
Whadda I think? Well, I don't think you're keeping your monetisation! Patreon FTW.
Do a video about the monster Mohammad.
"Lesus... Ludarium" 😑
Those are Is not Ls. "Iesus", pronounced "Ye-soos", the Latin transcription of Hebrew "Yeshua" (an alternative form of the older "Yehoshua", the origin of the English name "Joshua").
"Iudaeorum", Latin transcription of "Yehudi" (literally "from the tribe of Yehuda", the latter also Anglicized as "Judah").
Always look on the bright side of life 🎶😗
Truth
I know the misconception came from a poor translation, but if the arms are tied to the cross, is there any reason why nails in the palm of the hand wouldn't work? Not for support, but just as an added but of torture, which the Romans were not unknown to do.
How was impalement carried out?
You don't want to know...😮
@@grahambell4310 I really do. Like in a Wikihow sense.
Crucifixion I can work out but impalement I can't. Were the impalees hoisted above the spike and then lowered onto it, or did they have it forced into them and then the spike was raised?
@@WaddedBliss I've read some impaled thru the butt, h some thru the stomach.
@@ZeroOneInfinity I just want to know the mechanics of it.
Lesus? Iesus, that was horrible (5:54).
What was the name of the other video on Jesus' existence
The nails went trough the wrists, not the hands
I’m beginning to wonder if anyone in The Roman Empire didn’t die by execution
Arraka, like the new Ghostbusters movie???
0:47: ⚔️ Origins and mechanics of crucifixion explored through historical accounts and its significance in human history.
2:46: ⛪️ Origins and spread of crucifixion practices in ancient Rome and its territories.
5:13: ⚔️ Ancient Roman crucifixion practices and methods explained in detail.
7:43: ⚔️ Effects of Crucifixion on the Human Body
10:10: ⚔️ History and methods of crucifixion, including modern occurrences and lack of physical evidence.
Timestamps by Tammy AI
Lesus ludareum? Come on now
That sign over the head, though. Pretty sure the average person being crucified was in too much pain to worry about the sign. Like you're groaning and gasping and ask, "What does my sign say?" More likely put there to torment anyone who liked the condemned.
The thumbnail is certainly incorrect - hands can't support body weight at all. Even when nailed through the wrists straps were sometimes used.
I refuse to wear torture trees...
LOLOLOLOLOL This must be a sign of my age or something I don't know-but each time you explained the nails going through the ankles my fucking Knees hurt, I don't know why my knees would hurt there, other than, they hurt always, but, this was more of a "Ahhhh shhhiiitt why man, why, why are you showing me this--" while you can't look away ya know? huh? mebbe? sorta? O.o :P
Some depictions of Jesus carry the cross actually depict it accurately by showing him only carrying the cross bar.
Trying to nail down the history of crucifixion can be excruciating.