You know the secret behind "Soylent Green", do you? How can anyone name a product "Soylent" after the movie with Charlton Heston? Are they nuts? Never ever would I buy a product with this name! They could pay me and I wouldn't. No, disgusting, no.
@@TodayIFoundOut That's all fine and good and maybe the company did it on purpose. But no, even if I was interested in the product itself, I could never try it - always thinking of euthanasia as a prerequisite for feeding the masses with recycled human remains. I don't blame you for taking the sponsorship, the product itself is totally fine, I guess. But I wonder about the (in)sanity of the minds behind it.
I was stationed in West Germany in the 70s, my roommate and I went to a bar one time and there was a table full of old guys. One of them came and sat with us and said, I love America, I was a prisoner of war in Texas!
@joshuagrahm3607 Six years fighting a war, probably four years on the Eastern front fighting the Soviet Union, the were more than just qualified in commanding an alliance against the Soviet Union. And well, they for sure all had been Nazis, some more, others less, but well, those things tend to stop to matter when there is an imminent threat lurking behind a border.
There's a joke here in Chile, regarding the arrival of nazi defectors to South America. It says: "don't ask a lady for her age, don't ask a man for his salary, and don't ask your southern friend what did his german grandpa do between 1938 and 1945"
The truth of the "Denazification" was, that it was not as fast as it looked like from the outside. My Grandma was born in 1929, so she grew up in Nazi Germany. When in 2004 the big earthquake in the Indian Ocean happend and a big (following) tsunami killed over 100.000 people in the area, I vividly remember her saying out loud "I don't know why everyone is making a big fuzz about it. It's only some japanse". In truth the "Denazification" happend by "people from that time dying over the decades".
Well Idk how this is really related to Nazi Germany. Old people all around the world are known for saying racist and unhinged things. Also not too long ago in most countries people were brought up racist even by their own government. Politics always surrounded an enemy and people had more conflicts so there was always someone to hate.
@@YuutaTakeuchithe Japanese committed huge war crimes as a Nazi ally in WW2 and the earthquake killed many Japanese citizens it was 50 years later though and anyone born after that obviously wasnt involved
"How did they denazify so quickly?" - easy, they didn't. With the few "Argentinian" exceptions, the rest of the nazis just went back to a civilian life, (many of them cops, judges, teaches, officials etc), and pretended that nothing happened here...
The entire "de-nazify" garbage is the result of an ongoing re-affirmation of a myth that the victorious Allies crafted to forge vanquished Germany into a compliant vasal ever since. The "re-education" program was intended to make the Germans believe it themselves, adopting it to a point that they would not need any exterior ruler to continue to believe. Present-day Germany is the most indoctrinated nation that ever existed. It is also the only nation that distorted its own historiography to its disadvantage.
Nazi scientist went to the Soviet union as well.. how do you think the Russians got to space first.?? Than our American Germans were like hell nah.. MOON
No.. 12 million innocent Germans were killed. That included woman and children. Germans were sent to concentration camps and had public executions. More Germans were killed than Jews..
A friend of ours at church was in the Luftwaffe. I had no idea until I was in my teens. To me they were the kind old people from Germany. As he said, he wanted nothing to do with the Nazis. One day officers came to his small village saying all men/boys of a certain age had to join. He quietly refused but his best friend openly refused. His friends entire family were shot and then hung up in the town center as a warning. So he joined, he crashed himself into a field, waited for the Americans to find him and was sent as a pow to the Midwest. He and his wife became very wealthy and gave most of their wealth to civil rights organizations. They said it was their moral duty to do the right thing.
Sometimes it’s not about doing the moral right thing, but just about survival. We had a lot of very left leaning people on tv shows in the 60s/70s/80s, who had the „pleasure“ to serve as soldiers (some just 16yo back then) and even a Bundeskanzler, who in today’s USA would be called a communist, who was an officer during WW2. It massively shaped his beliefs to being a servant fir the people. I can only tell you, I‘m happy I never had to live in these times and everyone (wherever ut is) who admires to get such a country is just evil or completely clueless.
I don’t doubt you believe it but that story sounds like 💯 % fantasy. If a kid refused to say join the Hitler Youth the nazis wouldn’t then kill the parents and siblings. I knew a German whose father refused to comply with their Euthanasia program. The nazis murdered his father in their backyard but allowed him, his siblings and their mother to live normally, so they could be “good nazis”, unlike their father. Interestingly, he ended up hating the nazis and moving to America never to return to Germany while his siblings and mother and relatives all stayed behind after the war, and they did still have pro- nazi views.
Your families story should be made into a series only if your family story is picked up don't allow Hollywood to put their interpretation on your family story in what they believed they should of done in that situation. They did it with Jackie Robinson movie "42" and it was such an insult.
Crazy how sensitive Germany is about what they did and teach it heavily to avoid that from happening again, meanwhile Japan just ignores all of the brutal shit they did. They’ll even believe that its not even true.
Which is generally a myth and heavily critizised by historians in Germany. Germany only teaches extensively ONE war crime: The holocaust. Most of the other brutal dealings against other groups (for example eastern europeans) are being ignored , downplayed or only talked about on a surface level and not taught (one example: the average German can't make a difference between the polish Warsaw Uprising and the jewish Warsaw uprising - despite this being a significant and relevant difference for the victims involved) and many germans participate in a form of "self-victimization" (in which they react to the reveals of old nazis as if it is a shocking surprise and hurts them emotionally just as the victims) and "self-congratulation" up to the point of critizing historical victims of Nazi-Germany for "not dealing with their past as well as they do". How bad this actually is, is seen in the growing believe in the myth "der weißen Wehrmacht", events like the protests of 1968 and the sharp rise of parties like the AfD that uses a lot of nazi rethoric. Many of those deficits of germany dealing with their past are still resulting in tension with todays nations that now are actually able to speak up after the lift of the iron curtain (one example: The move of the PiS in Poland towards making sure that people don't call the concentration camps "polish concentration camps" that imply that they were their doing - and while the primary goal of the PiS with those laws were all but noble, mostly to allow a better undemocratic control of historical remembrance, it was based on a real issue: the fact that germany did nothing since the end WW2 to correct this error that resulted in diverting guilt). The same is true with Japan: It just does not correlate with the reality in poles and other data in Japan. Many sources and academic works exist in regards to that, also in Japan. Many even better developed than any german equivalent (the comfort woman issue for example is well researched in Japan, Korea and China to a point, that it is experts from that field that help now in germans "totally accidental" forgetting of the same happening in eastern europe - like the academic Maren Röger) - the movement of intelletuals and teachers that make this issue to a regular topic still is strong and present in Japan and you can, academically, see in their popular culture how much more it was unacceptable to portray war in a positive light (their is a reason why Japan is the first country to actually produce an anime about basically WW2 that mentions actual war atrocities in Valkyrie Chronicles). Voter questionaires of various politically aligned newspapers also show this: The percentage of Japanese that believe or vote for a party that denies the war atrocities were abysmally low (this might have changed with the success of Abe and US interference in japanese politics iwith the Golf war) with conservatives that at least defend some actions of Japan (but not the war crimes) and liberals that support the remembrance of japanese war crimes is rather similar in size. The reason why Japan seems to not "remember" the war crimes as well has a few reasons: a) the state. Many people correlate the state of a nation with the general opinon of the population. And in the case of Japan, this resulted in a very nationalistic ruling party of previous war criminals - thanks, just like in Germany, in US supporting the war criminals after the war, letting them stay in power and (way harsher than in germany) in a squashing of any social democratic movement in Japan which mostly where people that argued for the remembrance of the war crimes. But especially in the highly bureaucratic country of Japan, the opinion of the leading party doesn't have to correlate or support the general opinion of the voters for the state to work (example Yasukuni Shrine: It is well known that many of the pime ministers didn't really care for Yasukuni and only did it to appease conservative voters ... of which many that actually visit Yasukuni of the older generation increasingly also oppose the visits of the prime ministers for various reasons). b) The "heat" in regards to those topics in asian politics today. Germany basically was blessed with the reality, that MANY of their victims that suffered through extreme atrocities that are largly ignored disappeared behind the iron curtain and as such didn't have the time to really deal with those topics (willingly or unwillingly). In the case of Japan, this is different. These topics are a major power lever in the discussion that are regularly just as well used and abused by Japan AND its neighbouring countries like South Korea (if you think that South Korea really in a political sense cared about comfort woman you might be mistaken - for South Korean politics is is mostly a convenient political lever. Before the strong feminist movements in South Korea, most comofrt woman were ignore, shunt and socially cast out. South Korea also downplays it's own perverse role in the comfort woman issue: Many of the korean woman were sold by koreans to japanese, without any pressure. And academics that try to give a more nuanced perspective of this matter - by for example talking about the treatment of comfort woman in South Korean society AFTER the war - are regularly facing death threats and be called traitors. To make this clear: NONE of those academics deny the existence of comfort women, question the nastiness of this whole affair or want to sift the blame.) c) The fact that Japan missed the starting shot in changes in historical remembrance that on a global level expect countries to deal in a very specific way with attrocities. This doesn't mean that Japan is not dealing with its past (quite contrary - it needed the force of the US during the Golf war for Japan to start to remilitarize and as such legitimize war. Previously legitimizing any aggressive war was seen extremely critically by the public and Japan struggles until today in actually mobilizing the public into military support - be it in tonality or even just military subscription. And in comparative polls between neighbouring countries Japan is by a large marging the asian country with the lowest willingness of citizens to die or fight for their country). As such Japan seems and is extreme tone deaf in regards to international expectations in how to deal with war attrocities and historical remembrance.
USA also does this. Killed hundreds of thousands of innocent in the Japan bombings. Plus rape and murder all over the Middle East, Balkan’s, and South Asia.
I was stationed in West Germany in the early 1970s. A running joke was "whats the difference between a German and an Austrian?" ..."The Germans use to be Nazis, and the Austrians still are."
Like so true, not only did higher percentage or Austrians and Hungarians volunteer for the worst of the Nazi groups: SS and Gestapo, today both countries are far right and have openly racist policies.
@@RafaelRodrigues-rx9ry Don't take a statement of the time as a statement for today, besides it being a tad racist to apply to the general public. Arnold Swarzenegger of course is a good example of a famous Austrian known for being humanitarian and gregarious. Hungary's prime minister is hilariously somewhat aligned with Putin's communist Russia with Soviet aspirations, if that says anything about the implications of having facist and racist policy... but in any country that will be an unfortunate problem, even in America there are right wing nuts and left wing nuts that are all to comfortable with passing authoritarian policy to suppress their percieved enemies.
@@kindseyvaughn8667 it seems deep-rooted racism is still present in almost every once-imperialist state or community up to this day, including in Europe. Thinking based on heritage rather than a myriad of other factors.
Germany was not really denazified. When the first Chancellor of the Bundesrepublik Deutschland , Konrad Adenauer was asked why there are so many Nazis in his administration he answered: (quote) " No one throws away dirty water as long as he has no clean water."
Meaning he wanted new personnel but maybe the people in the area wer not good enough to take on the jobs if these people were taken out. Maybe thats what he meant?
I had a neighbour (passed away in 1998) who was a WW2 RCAF Navigator and former POW. He told us about his being shot down, his one and only parachute jump, capture and subsequent incarceration in a Luftstalag. He was caught up in a tree when a German Police Officer found him on patrol. He saw that his situation was fruitless and surrendered. He fully expected brutal treatment or summary execution, but instead received civility. The officer locked him up in their cells at the station, ensured he got a good meal and said in very broken English “for you the war is over, no worry”. He wasn’t turned over to the Gestapo, but rather the next morning a Luftwaffe guard and driver showed up to take him to a Stalag for questioning and incarceration. Life in the camps (he was moved a few times) was rough, but he survived and later liberated by the Russians. Upon return to Canada, he found civilian life rather boring and rejoined the RCAF. While stationed in Zweibrüken West Germany (not sure, but I think he said that) he started looking for the Police Officer who captured him. He found him, still a Police Officer in the same small town near Frankfurt. During the de-Nazification of the American Sector where he was, any Police Officer that had anything to do with the Nazi Party whether as a member of the Gestapo, ordinary member of the Party or even as a “willing participant” of Nazi atrocities were at least fired or had to stand trial. Complete Police Departments were rebuilt with new recruits, trained by mostly US Police Officers from scratch to become Peace Officers rather than enforcers of the political ideologies of the Führer. Being that he kept his job, that would mean that either he was one of the good ones, or he managed to squeeze through. My neighbour preferred to think it was the former because of the kindness he received. On a side note, the Police Officer told my neighbour that he still had the pistol he took from him upon capture, and if he wanted it back he could go home and get it for him. I guess he was required to turn it over to the Police Department, but I guess he slipped it into his coat as a souvenir, contrary to regulations. He probably took quite a risk keeping it after Germany’s surrender while the occupiers disarmed the local populace. Anyway, my neighbour said he could keep it. He thanked him for his kind treatment considering he was an enemy combatant. The de-Nazification of the police was definitely necessary to the reconstruction of the Federal Republic of Germany from the ashes of the Third Reich, but it must have been difficult with almost a 100% change of personnel.
Did you have the impression that this police officer was affected by Nazi ideology, whatever that may be? And what would that mean for a majority of the German people of the Third Reich? I believe that most of us are under the impression that the Third Reich was inhabited by Nazis and that almost no one could escape this. It is a distorted perception, as fueled by fictional depictions from novels, movies and even documentaries. Germans were not that easily affected by any ideology, just as most other people aren't. But, they dealt with the conditions of their times, as all people do. "De-nazification" is a term that emanated from the Allied policy, as created by psychological warfare deliberations. It assumes that people can and will be hypnotised by some ideology that is being imposed upon them somehow. It's a myth that most of us came to accept at face value. The Germans after 1945 did not have to be "de-nazified" any more than the people of the GDR needed to "de-sovietized" after 1990.
Germans hate Slavs and Poles especially.... Poles and Jews were one and the same before the war and Germany succeeded in separating Jews from Polish culture/society. WWII was a continuation of the Germanization of Polish lands in Germanic efforts of hegemony.
@@Guido_XL from the description of the Police Officer my neighbour gave me, he did describe him as an older man, perhaps in his 50s. This might have a lot to do with his apparent immunity to Nazi doctrine.
Hint: it didn’t. Thousands of Nazis later worked in Governments in Ministries in intelligence Services and in the Police. And obviously everywhere else too.
Actually they were mass deported, and basically g*nocided. Imprisoned for speaking German. They were destroyed by the allies, I think it was like 8 million Germans, someone you might know, Candace Owen’s, has talked about it recently.
My father was part of the American occupation of Germany in the postwar era, in the early 1960s (yeah, we were there a long time). He was fluent in several European languages, including German, so he could understand what Germans were saying around them when they thought he couldn't. He told me that denazification was a _failure_ , regardless of the propaganda messages back home in the states.
@@DrOtto-sx7cpHaving a base and actively holding a country are different. I kind of think we should have held it tighter, or even had it become the new Israel, instead of taking the old one back for the Jews.
What I gathered myself is that it was mainly thanks to konrad Adenauer that Germany didn't had a sudden Nazi uprising again Having a internal politician who actually fixed issues can help a lot when trying to persway a ideology
The Auschwitz trials in 1960 (the only real attampt to get justice for what happened in the camps until decades later) really only happened because of the district attorney of Frankfurt, Fritz Bauer. He was a fascinating figure, being in exile during the nazi years, and probably on of the few high ranking figures in the justice system that actually were clean. He formed a small group of young prosecutors, and they essentially worked in isolation from the rest of his office because a lot of them had vivid nazi pasts. It got to the point where he thought the Telex machines in his office were bugged, so he used the one in the vegetable wholesaler across the street. If the Auschwitz trials and Fritz Bauer don't already have Videos in the Whistler RUclips universe, they should really have one. Some of the witness testimony from the first trial is absolutely heartbreaking, I'll never forget the one where an older survivor of the camp laments the death of a young boy, the desperation and shock in his voice is just heartbreaking.
Fritz Bauer definitely deserves credit. The judicial system is a part where the denazification was especially poor. They just attested each other that everything they did was legal and kept going. Over all there was a 2/3 continuation from the third Reich to the Western German system, at the highest national court it was even 3/4.
I recall that in my country, the Netherlands, the number of those who were accused of collaborating with the Germans ran into the hundred thousand on a populace of six million. Given that the country was devastated by the war, it was found to be next to impossible to prosecute every person, especially since some of those accused were high-ranking officials needed to run the country. A lot of people who deserved punishment likely escaped it.
I'm always curious cuz my dad's family moved here from the Netherlands in 1951 when he was a 6 month old baby. I wonder if they were secretly on the bad side. My dad always says they help Jews hide during the war, but he also says Dutch people aren't that racist so I don't think he really knows 😅
@@Trump.is.a.nazzii There were collaborators in every country, whether they believed the ideology or they were just trying to save their own skins. But then there were people like my maternal grandmother's parents, who hid Jews in their farms. An entire nation cannot be classified as good or bad, not even the nation who instigates the conflict.
We didn't, which was the reason for the rightful anger of the kids-generation of the wartime generation in the late 1960s. Without them, little would have ever even been researched/prosecuted or taught in schools.
@@Arbidarb yeah, Germany and Austria literally created the SS again in 2020 under the claim they were going to hunt down the unvaccinated "to give them a fine". Seriously go look it up
Soylent blocked me on Twitter for tweeting "Soylent Green is people! PEOPLE!" Glad to see someone in the marketing devision finally developed a sense of humour.
What a load of crap. Can you give any major examples of nazi ideology in power? Your comment sounds like the same false guilt that is described in the video. The false guilt of the German people today & in the past (feeling responsible and wanting to self punish over something they didn't do) is imo why Germany now has created the conditions for more and more mass resentment with very crazy & irrational immigration policies. Unlike the Left Danish Govt, and others. Japan on the other hand, committed huge atrocities after ww2. But the US instead removed the cause and thus now Japan is a peaceful & unified country, unlike Germany. Japanese people do not feel false guilt for something they didn't do.
My comment was deleted. In Germany, the false guilt (guilt for something u didn't do) and desire for self punishment was protected onto the young, and I think that is why Germany has made such irrational and conflict creating immigration policies. Creating growing mass resentment and conflict. Unlike the Danish Left wing Govt, or others. And compare with Japan, who did massive atrocities in ww2. Yet afterwards the US simply removed the cause, helped them become a good country. Thus - unlike Germany - they are now a peaceful country where govt policy tends to be more in the national interest, esp immigration policy. Germany govt policy seems to be more about making up for Germany's past, or feeling good about the policy, rather than its effects on society. For example irrational and anti nation immigration (inc support for Forced Entry & Settlement; and welfare; suppressing or falsifying data about immigrants**) and energy policy. I'm not sure how it has changed recently, but this is recent history. **in Denmark & Netherlands accurate data exists on immigration. In Germany accurate data is banned. Also it falsified by clasifying a new immigrant with a citizenship as being of German decent. So look at other countries with no ban on accurate data for a better idea.
My favorite de-Nazi effort is how they made replacement medals for veterans so they could wear the no swastika version at reunions and parades. The silliest was that the band Kiss had to change their logo because the lightning bolt S was too close to the SS symbol and was banned
@@M_SC not related when both refer to symbols banned during the denazification program. Besides being a knob, your reading comprehension is atrocious. Read some books, visual media has made you stupid
The most stupid part of de-nazification is banning license plates with letters that could somehow be related to the Nazis. Some people had actually have to pay fines because their state issued license plate (which has the persons initials in them) contained comsidered letters.
Germans hate Slavs and Poles especially.... Poles and Jews were one and the same before the war and Germany succeeded in separating Jews from Polish culture/society. WWII was a continuation of the Germanization of Polish lands in Germanic efforts of hegemony.
Something that had been missing at times in modern times or lets say in my lived memory since the 1990s here in germany and so it was no surprise we got of that old shit nowadays again, well and Steve Bannon spreading his culture war bullshit to fringe right parties here in europe also did not help. That asshole should be banned from ever entering europe again.
@@duelde-consulting6403 that particular family branch hated what Hitler was doing and his nephew was the one who fought against him in the US Navy to show just how against him they were.
Dresden. Kassel. Dortmund. Hannover. Its so sad walking in these beautiful cities and seeing how much more beautiful they were in the past. My biggest hope is for a brighter future without such violence and bloodshed.
I watched the WW II in color series on Netflix, and it was stunning. But the last episode, end of the war, is what really twisted me in a knot. A German woman on the series was a child when the war was happening, between 9-12. They fled Germany when war came, and when they heard on the radio Germany surrendered, wanna know what her mom said? Basically “let’s just forget this happened and move on.” Said never say Hitler’s name again. Their little moment of peace was very short lived, as they got word from neighbors Russians were there to round up German citizens who fled, and had to go on the run. You don’t get the luxury of feigning amnesia when you watched your government round up your Jewish neighbors and throw them in concentration camps.
What about watching your government rounding up your japanese and asian neighbours and putting them in concentration camps? What resistance was put up there? What kind of luxury of forgetting do you get for this? Saying "sorry", moving on and forgetting about it? Or for 100 Years of slavery? Or for the genocide of the indigenous americans? Please apply your generous look on the world also to your own country. Where is the responsibility of a ton of shit done wrong there in the last 80 years alone? Getting to grips with the Nazi past is an endeavour in germany for decades now, no end in sight - the US has not even started to care about her own past, let alone to show responsibility, while being on the brink of installing a dictator themselves now. The same is true for the british and french for their colonisation, the italians for never confronting their own fascism, the russians and chinese for the murder of more of their own citizens by their governments after the war, than being killed during the war, and so on. If just every country would put their own houses in order, the world would be much cleaner. This of course does not suspend germany from continuing to do so. But at least they do work on it.
Something that is easily and eagerly omitted is the fact that a big chunk of Germans hated the Nazis, but kept it really quiet because of the Gestapo. Also, many Germans were absorbed into the respective bureaucracies because they had little choice (the army being one such bureaucracy).
not buying that - the Germans were the Nazis and the Nazis were the Germans - very few Germans didn't support the Nazis, although they all pretended to have "hated" them after the war
yup the real nazi people worked under the SS, that isn't to say some weren't also spread within the rank and file. The whole argument basically comes down to people do what they have to either out of fear or simple apathy and that no culture is a single rock but many strata. Id even wager most weren't nazis but had a real anger at the rest of Europe for the Treaty of Versailles which was the cause of the whole fucking thing in the first place
The fact that they took off these nazi uniforms so fast and ran like scared rabbits , when they saw the end coming, is a testament to how guilty they were inside.
Most people in Nazi party weren't real believers the Nazi party was an actual poliitcal party; many had to join who didn't believe orctheir careers were over
Or they believed propaganda that told them the Germans were going to be exterminated by the Allies. You know, a similar line to the one the leadership had been using to motivate and justify (to themselves) the H?
Simon, your iron grip is slipping. One of the dungeon monkeys got out of its cell and appeared in front of the camera. It told us we should really try the same prison food they get. Then mentioned something about plant murder...
There were many Germans who actively supported the Nazis regime, but there were also many who didn’t dare speak up or act against them out of fear for their safety, and the safety of their family. Many tried to retreat into their family life, but Hitler made sure that they couldn’t escape even in their own houses when he instituted the Nazis youth programs. The German secret police were as ruthless in acting against any hint of dissent as they were against anyone with a drop of Jewish blood in their family tree. Because it would be extremely hard to differentiate between a passive supporter and an active supporter (and would purge their society of the skills needed to rebuild after the war), it seems that only the most visible leaders in the Nazis regime were prosecuted.
That and how much extra death and destruction came from Hitler's refusal to surrender. I bet that got a lot of people to have pretty strong second thoughts about the Third Reich.
The majority of all Germans back then was actually actively supporting the Nazi Regime. Not just many. And it was not the German secret police that was hunting down people for doing things like a saying "Scheiß Hitler" when drunk, it was your jealous neighbor that made sure that you end up in prison or in a concentration camp for doing things like that. And that extremely hard to differentiate between active and passive supporter, nope, not been that way. They just couldn't imprison all active supporters because they were too many, society wouldn't have been able to function afterwards, so they let them go.
Not many, most Germans actively supported the Nazi regime. And nope, not the secret police was hunting down people that were against the regime, it were mostly neighbors sending neighbors into prison or into death camps: Partly because they actually said something against the regime, most likely when drunk and partly to get rid of them, because their place looked nicer, or similar pointless things. And well, it had been that many active supporters, that if they would have imprisoned them all, society wouldn't have been able to function anymore. That is the reason why they went free.
It's weird how parallel the societies of Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia were, yet both were sworn enemies, and one is openly celebrated today without recourse.
I'm German, too, and even though many here say it didn't work, it kind of did, at least for some generations. Of course, that doesn't mean there weren't Nazis, just that there weren't too many. For some decades a big part of political partys and I think also of the people did shift views more to the middle and so for many Germans, the denazification worked. I would even still guess that most people here aren't nationalistic at all. Before you ask, why not nationalistic? Simple, because the main way to denazify the later generations was to lower nationalism and to make a feeling of some shame about the past an integral part of our school teaching. However, especially after the reunification of Germany, the extreme right wing in politics and with it the Nazis became stronger again, and the more groups of people felt betrayed by the normal parties, the stronger the right wing became. Or ok, first it was most parties expect the two biggest, which became stronger but over the years more parts shifted to the right. Nowadays, especially but not only in the eastern states, the AFD is the second most popular party. In the beginning they may have been "just" a right-wing party but over the last 13 years most of the politicians who weren't on the far right side left that party, and today large parts of it are Nazis in all but name. Long story short, history tends to repeat itself, it would have been nice if people could have learned from the terrible past just once.
People lost their taste for it after learning of holocaust; bothers me that it's like nobody's willing to admit that and they just blamed over and over again
I think people underestimate the effect that reunification had in kind of rekindling some nazi ideations and the culpability of the Soviet Union in that. When they set up the GDR they fully leaned into nationalism and the aesthetic of the Wermacht in all but the Swatikas even down to recreating an Afrika Korps and it was no accident that the USSR set up East Germany as a revanchist land mind.
Reunification was a symptom of nationalism over antifascism. Germany was devided to make sure fascism wouldn't rise again. Reunification was the Germany deciding themselfs that german unitiy was more important than "never again".
Nobody seems to give a sh… about the AfD nationalist nonsense. It’s a one trick pony. Stop mass immigration and the AfD fades into nothingness. When they were merely against the Euro, they were a joke. Got less than 5% of the vote. It was Merkels’ failed immigration policy of 2015 that got them into the parliament in 2017. Merkel is to blame for Brexit and the AfD. Close the EU borders.
It's not all about being influenced by ideologies. About 30% of the population are on a spectrum of antisocial personality traits, and Nazi ideology just fits their personality.
Trouble is that after regime change you need to tolerate some people who worked for the old government to have enough competent civil servants to run the new government (blanket bans were a problem in 2003 Iraq for a counterexample)
That may be, but what is the message to the world, if the companys who destroyed Europe are now the richtest in germany? Germany lost, the Nazis won, yeah some died and some where persecuted, but that happend unser the Nazis too, just ask the SA. Germany was treated so mildly after the war, so the loser of war faired much better than many of it's victims and germans believe it's because even our woman work 2times hardes then anyone.
During the add, Simon has way to much hair, and not nearly enough beard... Im starting to suspect it might wasnt?! Another poor soul in Simons dungeon forced to work
That was Daven, he has connections to the lizard overlords allegedly, and thus Simon was forced to let him out of the basement. Daven's actually the owner and founder of TIFO..
Video starts at 3:35 ditch the stupid ads, putting an ad in a video that i'm trying to watch will make me never buy your product, annoying as hell, especially when i'm paying for premium so I don't have to watch ads.
Germans hate Slavs and Poles especially.... Poles and Jews were one and the same before the war and Germany succeeded in separating Jews from Polish culture/society. WWII was a continuation of the Germanization of Polish lands in Germanic efforts of hegemony.
People who have a following, whether they want it or not, are leaders of people. There is nothing more disgusting than a leader of people accepting money in exchange for giving marketers access to their following. They unleash manipulators upon their following some of which trust the judgment of their leader. I'll never understand people who wink and are like, "I get it man, make your money." All you're doing is projecting you would make the same immoral decisions this dude did if you ever became popular to others. From a classist point of view, it's like an Egyptian slave making the pyramids being like, "Yeah, the pharaoh is awesome abusing his place in society like this." It's Stockholm syndrome. Allegedly rare but happens to entire populations who are deluded. This kind of stuff manifests all the time in America toward businessmen doing pretty much anything that is legal to make money. "Wow, that's smart! Oh, so much profit." ... uhh why are you idolizing businessmen that are abusing you, the customer, especially when you're not even the one in the same class to abuse other classes. A serf glorifying the king rather than criticizing him. Absolute badness and madness.
@@AG-ld6rv dude, all I was saying was that I became more intrigued and open to listening to the sponsorship pitch through the clever use of word play. I still had no intention of buying the product, but felt the entertainment of it would be worth the extra time. Getting all philosophical and navel-gazey on the intersection of audience captivity and content creator financial realities is certainly within your rights but I have to wonder... did you type that out in the moment or have that ready to go just to copy and paste in?
@@hancocki> dude, all I was saying was that I became more intrigued and open to listening to the sponsorship pitch through the clever use of word play. I still had no intention of buying the product, but felt the entertainment of it would be worth the extra time. Marketing isn't about entertainment. It is about convincing people to make decisions that may not be the best for themselves. There is zero reason to idolize businessmen hiring marketing employees hellbent on manipulating a chunk of the population to do things that, if they understood everything, would not make that decision. > Getting all philosophical and navel-gazey As a general rule, I've found people who try to insult others for thinking tend to support bad things. Here, it's marketing and allowing others to manipulate your followers when you are a leader. Other times, it's graver situations that deal with how nations treat their people and other nations. > Getting all philosophic [ .. ] on the intersection of audience captivity and content creator financial realities is certainly within your rights but I have to wonder... did you type that out in the moment or have that ready to go just to copy and paste in? I'm writing stuff that is in my head. There are no two comments that I make that are the same. You can phrase it as philosophically as you want, but at the end of the day, it is wrong to take money in exchange for the manipulation of people that trust you as a leader. This is common sense unless you're a psychopath or a sociopath that has been taught to love abuse dished out by businesses.
My friend was born in Germany in 1965 and came to the US in the late 80's after marrying a US soldier stationed there. We were talking about this and she said, as kids, they hated the annual "why the Nazi's were bad" unit in school. It was essentially the same information every year. A few of her family members had been members of the party. Some believed but most (according to them) joined because it was the only way to keep their jobs. Both her parents were in secondary school during the war. Neither joined the Hitler Youth so both were ostracized in their towns. The "all Germans were culpable" narrative was wrong, just as the "nobody knew what the Nazi's were doing" was also wrong. Her generation was tired of hearing about the Nazis and just wanted to live their lives.
I don't have a large amount of sympathy for students having to sit through a boring lecture. There are like 17 million people who wanted to just live their lives too that we didn't get to hear from.
@@nelson-haha89 She never said it was boring, she said they had to listen to lectures telling them that they caused the death of millions of people and the destruction of much of Europe just because they were German. Kids needed to know what happened and why, they did not need to be told they were the cause even though it happened 20 years before they were born.
This was very hilariously bad timing, that caught me so off guard, I inhaled my drink like literally went down the wrong tube, I just gave myself a "pulmonary JD&C" and then it exploded out of my nose LOL... I don't have anything to compare this feeling to, probably because I've never died before LOL I joke, but that was very unpleasant... LOL
3:15 "soil it" sounds frikkin stupid. I hate the idea, home cooked meal is best, we have dish washers for dirty dishes, we can buy fresh food out and about if we want the luxury of not cooking or doing dishes.
They didn't de-nazify. My sister had a woman boss who immigrated here after World War 2. That woman was a mean nasty old woman. Many of the older generation that came here after world war 2 hung onto their Nazi beliefs until the day they died AS I believe this woman did too. The ones I met were cold no nonsense people. I was told that after the war Germans created coffee houses or beer houses (I don't know what they're called) all over their country expressly so they could go there to hang onto their Nazi beliefs. I can't imagine being born in 1933 and all you hear as your growing up is Nazi ideology. How could you think any other way? Your thinking would be set. To change a lifetime of thinking like that would be difficult.
Unfortunately you have no idea what their ideology truly was as it has been scrubbed. Perhaps you should study the history of Europe first before judging their ideology. History is written by the winners
What were their beliefs about freemasonry, left wing republics, and Jews? You don’t even know why they said they were fighting. You need to really think about that. Germans were denazified there is no question, their books were burned and they were sent to re-education camps. You really need to ask yourself why no one ever brings up the fact that the nazis claimed to be fighting a war against international Jewry and secret societies. Why can’t that be known??? Truth is stranger than fiction
@@trueweapon2349 what did the Nazis claim to be fighting? You can’t even answer that, therefore there is no reason to converse with you. Open a book. I’ll help you, forces occultes, judeo bolshevism, judeo masonry, court Jew. You are speaking on things you know absolutely nothing about
My grandfather was a teen in Nazi Germany and he was in a military training camp when the war ended. Sometimes you recognize that he is still traumatized and brainwashed in some regards. It's really sad because he was a kid back then and it influenced his whole life.
they were making germany gay and he dealt with the problem in the worst way possible. blamed a whole people and killed them. nothing compared to the 20 million christians killed but still.
My Opa (grandfather) was conscripted into the German army in 1943 and sent to the Russian front. Miraculously, he survived. After allied victory, he walked home. Home was a hamlet near Miltenberg Am Main. It took him 19 months to finally stumble into the arms of my Oma and their eight children. Nearly the entire population of the village had rejected the dogma of the nationalist socialist government and were so elated to see Oskar return, they threw a party! Post war was beyond belief. My mother and her sisters were put into a “fat camp” and forced to eat unfamiliar foods. Although well-meaning, some of the food was repugnant including peas that had a petroleum tinge and chicken that made the children sick. My mother wrote a memoir retelling some of the struggles but through the eyes of a child and this video aligns with her stories.
@@Marcel_Audubon read your history - there were lots of people who did not support Naziism. Just like ALL Americans support Trump - right? Your sarcasm is rather silly
@@LapinDebogues You offer a telling example ... Americans who didn't support Trump rejected him at the polls and turned him out of office ... Germans who didn't support Naziism cowered in the corner without a peep because they were afraid of losing their nazi sponsored jobs. "Although I'm heading to the Nazi rally wearing a Nazi armband and might loot a synagogue on the way, let history show that deep, deep down, I really didn't support them!" doesn't really cut it
I am reminded of a history professor at a Canadian university where I studied who used the terms 'de-nazification' and re-nazification'. Accordingly, once the Cold War began the western allies realized that old Nazis were also good anti-communists and hence many found their way back into positions of power. One prominent example is Hans Filbinger. He was a naval judge who in the dying days of the war signed up on the executions of so-called deserters. Filbinger later became state premier of Baden-Württemberg, a German Bundesland.
But did they?... Are you sure? Here are some facts... After World War II, there were some former Nazis who became part of the post-war German government. Notable examples include: - Walter Scheel, who became President of Germany in 1974, and Kurt Georg Kiesinger, who served as Chancellor from 1966 to 1969. Both were members of the Nazi Party during the war. - Hans Globke, a high-ranking official in the post-war German government, who played a significant role in drafting antisemitic Nuremberg Race Laws in Nazi Germany. These individuals, and others like them, were part of a complex and controversial process of Denazification that aimed to rid German society of Nazi ideology. However, the presence of former Nazis in post-war German government was a source of ongoing debate and controversy.
I know there are a lot of opinions and "on paper" versus "in practice" comments moving to the contrary of the title of this video, but I appreciate you guys putting this video out. It is only briefly covered in our public education in the US. WW2 is highly covered, but denazification is barely touched on. I watch a lot of documentaries about WW2 regarding survivor stories, etc. However, I'm also interested from the soldier perspective and citizen perspective. I personally find much less information and stories about this than of any other angle that is covered about the Holocaust. In fact, it wasnt until the past few years, did I even learn any reasons about what else was happening in the world and why Japan bombed the US when the US hadnt engaged directly or officially in WW2 until then and then we went to Europe. It never made sense why Japan just bombed us and then we went east instead of west - because that is what we were taught / what i remember from history in school.
Prove it that it really is rise of Nazis again not people wanting their country from globalist who rather flood the country with outside who will not integrate with the country . On of that your left side makes that scream pointing out he bad consequences of what we are doing is hate speech
I’m not completely confident in that. That said, I think there’s always people who will think pushing down or kicking someone who’s already down makes them stronger/richer/more powerful, when all is does is demonstrate the opposite. Also, I’m not confident that at least some of the problems in the West aren’t funded and encouraged by the East.
I can't help but feel like for most common people denazification only required showing them the films of what the allies discovered at the camps. The horror of knowing you helped foster something like that would live with you the rest of your days.
Ofc people knew about the camps don't be silly Many worked alongside the slaves and ofc they saw them dying from mistreatment Those columns of " zebras" as they call them was passing through their towns and dropping dead all over the place Soldiers was writing about their actions to their relatives Don't reproduce cold warvmyths
People tend to prefer to believe that information that contradicts their views is false rather than changing their beliefs. If they supported the Nazis, showing that likely wasn't enough, if they didn't support the Nazis, they didn't need to be denazified.
"The horror of knowing you helped foster something like that" Pity that Russians don't feel the same about the Katyn Forest massacres. Maybe then they wouldn't have been so keen to invade Ukraine.
You need to do a video on the Battle of Castle Itter where Wehrmacht troops fought alongside French, American and British POWs against S.S. troops to liberate the camp. Fascinating stuff.
Lemme tell you as someone from rural Germany: A lot of places have a "late easter celebration" today (April 20th. You can guess why?) at that one bar where the cops won't show up.
Basically the effort to de-Nazify Germany worked as well as the effort to de-Confederatize the American south after the Civil War. The current trends in both countries show the great success of this.
While I agree that the current state of German politics is a poor testament to denazification, this still is to be viewed in the context of a broader nationalist trend worldwide. Compared to the UK, the US, Italy, France, Austria and others, Germany is still quite tame as far as the reach of nationalist ideology into the populus is concerned. Not to relativize any of this as harmless, just to provide some frame of reference. There are other nations - above all the USA - that we should be much more worried about than Germany.
While I agree that initial de-nazification was mostly lip-service, the student protest of 1968 actually helped shift the country further left and forced a more public and open debate about Nazi Germany and people's roles in it. The greatest problems with a resurgence of far right politics in Germany are - ironically enough - in the former GDR states.
@@KomradeKrusher That's because in the former GDR states they were never exposed to American propaganda until the Berlin Wall fell. Those students in the 60s were very much exposed to it.
@@overman2306 I'm not even sure I understand how that relates to anything I said or what the point you're trying to make is. Suffice to say that, besides all it's leftist, egalitarian and internationalistic outward presentation, the GDR had a neo Nazi problem brewing in its belly even before the wall fell.
Only read the title and was immediately entranced. This is the type of thing that’s awesome to learn about! Thanks Simon! (And the writers of course lol)
As a German i can say it never was denazified. Rather people suffered that much that they spoke bad about that time to their kids and grandkids, or you had grandparents which endorsed naziscm and told you so. Most Germans in my age (26) just dont talk about it, there are more left than you think.
I would love to go places, i was offered to go to see some concentrationcamps. But i couldnt. Im crying and spluttering at photos, i tried to watch a digital tour and was blubbering.
And yet, Bergen-Belsen was not a so-called "death" camp. Is it not striking that the only so-called "death" camps were all within the Soviet-controlled areas after WWII? The heaps of emaciated bodies were shoveled together by the British, by the way. Did they tell you that? After the liberation, the inmates were not allowed to leave, as there still was an epidemic that was not supposed to reach the outside world. Probably more inmates died there after the liberation than before. In the last months of the war, Bergen-Belsen became increasingly burdened with more and more inmates from the Eastern concentration camps, while the Red Army advanced. The constant bombardments depleted the potable water supplies, the food and medicine stocks. That caused the eventually devastating epidemics in Bergen-Belsen. It is typical for the narrative to abuse the case of Bergen-Belsen as an alleged example of a "death" camp. The Western Allies never saw Auschwitz-Birkenau, Treblinka, Majdanek and all the other alleged "death" camps. The British liberated Bergen-Belsen and the Americans Buchenwald. None of those Western concentration camps were labeled "death" camps afterwards, once the initial rumours were debunked. "Strangely", that debunking never happened to the Eastern camps.
@@Guido_XL You should to out and visit Auschwitz & Birkenau. Go see the gas chambers and furnaces for yourself. Then think about what you mean when you talk about "debunking"
Seriously. I’ve never even seen the movie but the cultural diffusion is so complete and k can’t believe Simeón made that choice and if it isn’t a US company then… idk do something marketing team lol
I'm huge on meal replacement shakes and honestly...soylent is the worst out of all of them. the company blows, I don't know anyone who has a gut that agrees with it and it tastes very....distinct. Huel is a much better product and KaChava is even better, but too expensive for what it is. Huel is best imo not that anyone asked.
I am very German. We are very pragmatic people. My grandparents generation saw the tide turning and it was beneficial in anyway not to be a Nazi anymore, so they stopped being Nazis. It is THAT simple.
If you commit murder because you can and it was the easiest way to hide among other murders then you are a murderer and always a murderer. If you ignore murder then you are a murderer.
WoW if only every criminal could be like, ya I used to do crimes but when I saw those police lights I stopped being a criminal. It is THAT simple. I mean why even have a justice system if people are THAT pragmatic.
Yeesh, I had to tap the right arrow key like 40 times to get through that embedded ad. RUclips premium really needs to come up with a way to skip sponsor spots, we are paying for no ads and they're still being snuck in.
I used to work in the pharmaceuticals industry, and during that time my company bought an Austrian competitor. I was involved in the effort to integrate the two companies, and spent quite a bit of time working in Vienna. I communicated every day with Austrians, Germans, Belgians, Italians, the English, etc. During cultural sensitivity training, we were told not to bring up the wars, so I didn't. Had I not known about the wars, I would not have known they happened based on my interactions with my Austrian colleagues. I only heard one thing said that I thought contained a hint of Nazi ideology, and that was in a speech given by a scientist to other scientists. He admonished them to not be so "blue eyed' when confronted with facts that challenge their understanding. I guessed that "blue eyed" meant closed-minded, and the statement was ironic coming from a blond man with blue eyes. I was listening really hard for anti-Semitic sentiments, and all I heard was one person warning against group think. We had a conference in Salzburg, and I was excited to be where the von Trapp family escaped after their musical performance at the music festival. I asked a colleague if there were any Sound of Music tours. He said it was the wrong time of the year for the music festival. I explained that a pivotal scene in one of the best movies of all time took place in Salzburg. He had no idea what I was talking about. I sang some of the songs for him, even the one from the goatherd puppet show. That one is impossible to get out of your head once it gets started. He told me they don't allow movies about the war. That made me very sad, because I always thought of SOM being about love, and family and raindrops and roses and climbing mountains and solving problems and sixteen and seventeen and tasting champagne and does and deers and edelweiss. The war was just an excuse to wrap up this brown paper package of glorious music in string and send us home with a song in our heart. But only I was sad. My friend was oblivious. If you don't know the high price you pay to put the past behind you, then you're free from it. Let's compare the de-Nazification program in Germany and Austria with Reconstruction after the Civil War. Hmmm... Maybe what , the cultural sensitivity training trainers were really advising us against was discussing moral superiority, because we stand on shaky ground on that subject.
Being blue-eyed in German just means someone is naive. It's just an expression. Cause babies or small children often have blue eyes even when they end up with darker eyes later on. Doesn't have anything to do with nazi ideology. And the film "The Sound of Music" wasn't really that popular in Germany/Austria. I saw tours being offered when I went to Salzburg, and I had no idea what they were about. I've never heard about that movie before. So no big surprise, your colleague had no idea what you're talking about. There most definitely are german movies about WW2, but especially in the 50s and 60s no one wanted to be reminded of the dark times.
It really was an example of collective amnesia by the perpetrators and bystander amnesia by the majority of ordinary Germans. The most amazing success was Austria turning themselves into victims, when frankly they supplied more war criminals based on SS records. Roughly speaking, though around only 10% of the SS were Austrian they represented nearly 50% of the war criminals.
I assume most hardcore Nazis were dead from the war. The rest ran to Argentina and most regular Germans who remotely supported the party suddenly had amnesia 💯🤦
Well thats just if you think about the soldiers and higher ups in the rank of the Nazi government. This is more about the every day people who just were regular people but sided with the Nazi's.
Many unimportant individuals who harbored a positive view of nazism but maybe never carried out any violence themselves, simply kept their mouths shut and blended into normal society. This is evident in the ww2 vet groups in Germany after the war that openly supported nazi ideas and carried on nazi ideology.
@@RyoHazuki224 No its not? Its about politicians, scientists, industrials and other high ranking members of the party. Most of whom have gotten away with a slap on the wrist if that... Most of the "normal citizen" never faced any sort of trial.
@@MrSniperfox29 Wrong. German politicians, judges and police after WW2 where overwhelmingly staunch Nazis. In fact, to this day they still are. It was even worse in the eastern part of Germany, where Wehrmacht officers carried on like nothing happened, rebuilding the GDR military with the Orcs blessing. To this day, many military bases are named after Nazi war heroes.
Kinda like the white men of the US ... sure, in the constitution all men are created equal but that's not how it is practiced in society or government - especially if you are Jewish or African American. It's disgusting. I get it when humans are emotional creatures and lash out at a person or community member because of something that they did or didn't do- but to outright deny that these "other" people are people regardless of how one feels about them is disgusting and I don't understand it at all. It's not the norm, I realize, but it's also very much more present than it should be.
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My grandfather was an American stationed in Germany in the mid 1950s. He recalls that they were told to be more suspicious of "the reds" than the Nazis because anybody left wasn't worth it.
Bert Trautman was a Nazi paratrooper. He was a bad ass who won the iron cross. He was a frontline troop who took many allied lives. He was eventually captured and taken as a POW in Britain. He was made to work on a farm and was so disarmed by the fact that the locals treated him fairly and even got to like him after a while that he started to doubt everything he had been trained to think. He eventually married an english woman and play football for manchester city in goal. He broke his neck in the '56 FA cup final but continued to play till the end of the game. He said "I had two lives: one in germany as a Nazi and one of happiness in England". Read his story, its amazing
I had just finished the book, "After The Reich" by Giles MacDonogh, that covered all this in detail. It was quite a shock. So much happened that we just never heard about, like reopening the old concentration camps to hold suspected civilians, the starvation that was rampant after the war, and the treatment of Germans living in formerly occupied territories like Poland and Czechoslovakia, where the roles of oppressor and oppressed were essentially reversed.
This is exactly what I've always thought happened cause in every documentary they talk about how the Nazis completely controlled Germany from every high ranking official to school teachers throughout the country. There was just no way in you could go through all of them, i always thought it'd be faster to just let them age out and be replaced by the next generation which it seems they pretty let Happen after they realized how much work it would be
Many of them, particularly the rich industrialists who supported the party financially early and made massive profits during the war, were never held responsible.
They didn't. Plenty of people still/again have those kinds of ideas in Germany and elsewhere in Europe. How do I know? Because of the sh!t propaganda that my flatmate constantly consumes.
You can’t kill an idea, unfortunately. The best thing to guard against such extreme beliefs is to educate and work with impressionable people to convince them that they’re being taken advantage of by scumbags who don’t actually care about them.
@@Jolis_Parsecat this point I believe those people want to be taken advantage of, like CDU and/or FDP were in nearly every government and they are very open about being pro capitalism and people still vote them
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You know the secret behind "Soylent Green", do you? How can anyone name a product "Soylent" after the movie with Charlton Heston? Are they nuts? Never ever would I buy a product with this name! They could pay me and I wouldn't. No, disgusting, no.
@twinmama42 It's actually really good though. 😋 And totally made of plants, not people. 😘 -Daven
@@TodayIFoundOut That's all fine and good and maybe the company did it on purpose. But no, even if I was interested in the product itself, I could never try it - always thinking of euthanasia as a prerequisite for feeding the masses with recycled human remains.
I don't blame you for taking the sponsorship, the product itself is totally fine, I guess. But I wonder about the (in)sanity of the minds behind it.
A) Fuck me the Tesla vs Edison script was 104 pages long
B) I fucking love that the sponsors approve ad reads like this
I was in Germany in the late eighties, early nineties. For the older generation the difference between Nazi and non-Nazi was around six pints.
I was stationed in West Germany in the 70s, my roommate and I went to a bar one time and there was a table full of old guys. One of them came and sat with us and said, I love America, I was a prisoner of war in Texas!
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Now it's being applauded or not by the Canadian house of representatives.
@@Hope_Boat I'm not a Canadian, what are you referring to?
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As my grandfather once told me: Those who were the biggest Nazis out there were the first ones that got amnesia and weren't able to remember anything.
They took those disgusting nazi uniforms off so fast they got chafed. A clear sign of guilt for their crimes.
@@RubenLensvelt
Nazis were neither Russian nor Communist. Weird take
@@calebbean1384 it's what closeted neo Nazis say.
@joshuagrahm3607 Six years fighting a war, probably four years on the Eastern front fighting the Soviet Union, the were more than just qualified in commanding an alliance against the Soviet Union. And well, they for sure all had been Nazis, some more, others less, but well, those things tend to stop to matter when there is an imminent threat lurking behind a border.
@@calebbean1384 might as well be
There's a joke here in Chile, regarding the arrival of nazi defectors to South America. It says: "don't ask a lady for her age, don't ask a man for his salary, and don't ask your southern friend what did his german grandpa do between 1938 and 1945"
Me puedes dar el link para escuchar ese comediante
Ive heard a similar joke from Argentina but it was more "Dont ask abuelo what his rank in the SS was"
@@spencegame haha you mean "herr abuelo" haha
You mean 1933-1945
And everyone laughs 🙄
The truth of the "Denazification" was, that it was not as fast as it looked like from the outside. My Grandma was born in 1929, so she grew up in Nazi Germany. When in 2004 the big earthquake in the Indian Ocean happend and a big (following) tsunami killed over 100.000 people in the area, I vividly remember her saying out loud "I don't know why everyone is making a big fuzz about it. It's only some japanse". In truth the "Denazification" happend by "people from that time dying over the decades".
That's hillarious in a weird way
Well Idk how this is really related to Nazi Germany. Old people all around the world are known for saying racist and unhinged things. Also not too long ago in most countries people were brought up racist even by their own government. Politics always surrounded an enemy and people had more conflicts so there was always someone to hate.
@@rabiaadami dont get it. Whats so funny about it?
What's that have to do with not denazifying? Besides, Japan was an ally of Nazi Germany.
@@YuutaTakeuchithe Japanese committed huge war crimes as a Nazi ally in WW2 and the earthquake killed many Japanese citizens it was 50 years later though and anyone born after that obviously wasnt involved
"How did they denazify so quickly?" - easy, they didn't. With the few "Argentinian" exceptions, the rest of the nazis just went back to a civilian life, (many of them cops, judges, teaches, officials etc), and pretended that nothing happened here...
The entire "de-nazify" garbage is the result of an ongoing re-affirmation of a myth that the victorious Allies crafted to forge vanquished Germany into a compliant vasal ever since. The "re-education" program was intended to make the Germans believe it themselves, adopting it to a point that they would not need any exterior ruler to continue to believe. Present-day Germany is the most indoctrinated nation that ever existed. It is also the only nation that distorted its own historiography to its disadvantage.
Exactly what I said! Only difference is that I’m a 29yo Black American, that’s never once been to Germany ever.
Exactly right.
And no amount of shouting how antinazi they are is going to change it.
Judging with how things are now, I don't think they did either. It spread across the ocean and ended up here.
Nazi officers escaped to South America, nazi scientists moved to North America and the nazi foot soldiers just got amnesia.
I’m sure a large amount of the foot soldiers were killed
Nazi scientist went to the Soviet union as well.. how do you think the Russians got to space first.?? Than our American Germans were like hell nah.. MOON
@@CptCrunch816space ? That thing we can’t do almost 70 plus year later?
@@felixalfaro3119 what do you mean we can't still do it... Elon musk has put hundreds of satellites into space in the last decade
And the communists? What about them? Have they faced any punishment for the atrocities theyve created? No? Then stfu about Nazis.
They took off their SS uniforms, put on their civilian suits and went to work as usual.
"I imagine when you get home, you're gonna want to take off that uniform..."
And i WANT my scalps@@BloodWolfXZ
I've been chewed out before...
Apart from the millions who were killed, raped, tortured or jailed, I suppose that's true.
No.. 12 million innocent Germans were killed. That included woman and children. Germans were sent to concentration camps and had public executions. More Germans were killed than Jews..
Never ask a woman her age; a man his salary; or your Uncle Franz what bar he drank at in Munich.
Why not?
Lol. Reminds me of that episode of Family Guy where Chris makes friends with the old German puppet-maker...
A friend of ours at church was in the Luftwaffe. I had no idea until I was in my teens. To me they were the kind old people from Germany.
As he said, he wanted nothing to do with the Nazis. One day officers came to his small village saying all men/boys of a certain age had to join. He quietly refused but his best friend openly refused. His friends entire family were shot and then hung up in the town center as a warning. So he joined, he crashed himself into a field, waited for the Americans to find him and was sent as a pow to the Midwest. He and his wife became very wealthy and gave most of their wealth to civil rights organizations. They said it was their moral duty to do the right thing.
Sometimes it’s not about doing the moral right thing, but just about survival. We had a lot of very left leaning people on tv shows in the 60s/70s/80s, who had the „pleasure“ to serve as soldiers (some just 16yo back then) and even a Bundeskanzler, who in today’s USA would be called a communist, who was an officer during WW2. It massively shaped his beliefs to being a servant fir the people.
I can only tell you, I‘m happy I never had to live in these times and everyone (wherever ut is) who admires to get such a country is just evil or completely clueless.
I don’t doubt you believe it but that story sounds like 💯 % fantasy.
If a kid refused to say join the Hitler Youth the nazis wouldn’t then kill the parents and siblings. I knew a German whose father refused to comply with their Euthanasia program. The nazis murdered his father in their backyard but allowed him, his siblings and their mother to live normally, so they could be “good nazis”, unlike their father.
Interestingly, he ended up hating the nazis and moving to America never to return to Germany while his siblings and mother and relatives all stayed behind after the war, and they did still have pro- nazi views.
All that said, Hitler had HUGE rallies and was well loved(as long as they were winning).
Cringe
Your families story should be made into a series only if your family story is picked up don't allow Hollywood to put their interpretation on your family story in what they believed they should of done in that situation.
They did it with Jackie Robinson movie "42" and it was such an insult.
Crazy how sensitive Germany is about what they did and teach it heavily to avoid that from happening again, meanwhile Japan just ignores all of the brutal shit they did. They’ll even believe that its not even true.
Which is generally a myth and heavily critizised by historians in Germany. Germany only teaches extensively ONE war crime: The holocaust. Most of the other brutal dealings against other groups (for example eastern europeans) are being ignored , downplayed or only talked about on a surface level and not taught (one example: the average German can't make a difference between the polish Warsaw Uprising and the jewish Warsaw uprising - despite this being a significant and relevant difference for the victims involved) and many germans participate in a form of "self-victimization" (in which they react to the reveals of old nazis as if it is a shocking surprise and hurts them emotionally just as the victims) and "self-congratulation" up to the point of critizing historical victims of Nazi-Germany for "not dealing with their past as well as they do". How bad this actually is, is seen in the growing believe in the myth "der weißen Wehrmacht", events like the protests of 1968 and the sharp rise of parties like the AfD that uses a lot of nazi rethoric. Many of those deficits of germany dealing with their past are still resulting in tension with todays nations that now are actually able to speak up after the lift of the iron curtain (one example: The move of the PiS in Poland towards making sure that people don't call the concentration camps "polish concentration camps" that imply that they were their doing - and while the primary goal of the PiS with those laws were all but noble, mostly to allow a better undemocratic control of historical remembrance, it was based on a real issue: the fact that germany did nothing since the end WW2 to correct this error that resulted in diverting guilt).
The same is true with Japan: It just does not correlate with the reality in poles and other data in Japan. Many sources and academic works exist in regards to that, also in Japan. Many even better developed than any german equivalent (the comfort woman issue for example is well researched in Japan, Korea and China to a point, that it is experts from that field that help now in germans "totally accidental" forgetting of the same happening in eastern europe - like the academic Maren Röger) - the movement of intelletuals and teachers that make this issue to a regular topic still is strong and present in Japan and you can, academically, see in their popular culture how much more it was unacceptable to portray war in a positive light (their is a reason why Japan is the first country to actually produce an anime about basically WW2 that mentions actual war atrocities in Valkyrie Chronicles). Voter questionaires of various politically aligned newspapers also show this: The percentage of Japanese that believe or vote for a party that denies the war atrocities were abysmally low (this might have changed with the success of Abe and US interference in japanese politics iwith the Golf war) with conservatives that at least defend some actions of Japan (but not the war crimes) and liberals that support the remembrance of japanese war crimes is rather similar in size.
The reason why Japan seems to not "remember" the war crimes as well has a few reasons:
a) the state. Many people correlate the state of a nation with the general opinon of the population. And in the case of Japan, this resulted in a very nationalistic ruling party of previous war criminals - thanks, just like in Germany, in US supporting the war criminals after the war, letting them stay in power and (way harsher than in germany) in a squashing of any social democratic movement in Japan which mostly where people that argued for the remembrance of the war crimes. But especially in the highly bureaucratic country of Japan, the opinion of the leading party doesn't have to correlate or support the general opinion of the voters for the state to work (example Yasukuni Shrine: It is well known that many of the pime ministers didn't really care for Yasukuni and only did it to appease conservative voters ... of which many that actually visit Yasukuni of the older generation increasingly also oppose the visits of the prime ministers for various reasons).
b) The "heat" in regards to those topics in asian politics today. Germany basically was blessed with the reality, that MANY of their victims that suffered through extreme atrocities that are largly ignored disappeared behind the iron curtain and as such didn't have the time to really deal with those topics (willingly or unwillingly). In the case of Japan, this is different. These topics are a major power lever in the discussion that are regularly just as well used and abused by Japan AND its neighbouring countries like South Korea (if you think that South Korea really in a political sense cared about comfort woman you might be mistaken - for South Korean politics is is mostly a convenient political lever. Before the strong feminist movements in South Korea, most comofrt woman were ignore, shunt and socially cast out. South Korea also downplays it's own perverse role in the comfort woman issue: Many of the korean woman were sold by koreans to japanese, without any pressure. And academics that try to give a more nuanced perspective of this matter - by for example talking about the treatment of comfort woman in South Korean society AFTER the war - are regularly facing death threats and be called traitors. To make this clear: NONE of those academics deny the existence of comfort women, question the nastiness of this whole affair or want to sift the blame.)
c) The fact that Japan missed the starting shot in changes in historical remembrance that on a global level expect countries to deal in a very specific way with attrocities. This doesn't mean that Japan is not dealing with its past (quite contrary - it needed the force of the US during the Golf war for Japan to start to remilitarize and as such legitimize war. Previously legitimizing any aggressive war was seen extremely critically by the public and Japan struggles until today in actually mobilizing the public into military support - be it in tonality or even just military subscription. And in comparative polls between neighbouring countries Japan is by a large marging the asian country with the lowest willingness of citizens to die or fight for their country). As such Japan seems and is extreme tone deaf in regards to international expectations in how to deal with war attrocities and historical remembrance.
The Japanese are openly proud of their past, just like the Americans, Russians, British, French, etc. The Germans pretend to be ashamed.
@@BlackChrom3Man U didn’t have to make me read that
USA also does this. Killed hundreds of thousands of innocent in the Japan bombings. Plus rape and murder all over the Middle East, Balkan’s, and South Asia.
@SOOJINSOK It's not even that long lol phone posting has destroyed the intelligence of the people
I was stationed in West Germany in the early 1970s. A running joke was "whats the difference between a German and an Austrian?" ..."The Germans use to be Nazis, and the Austrians still are."
Good joke, but true. Should be posted under every ww2 video.
Like so true, not only did higher percentage or Austrians and Hungarians volunteer for the worst of the Nazi groups: SS and Gestapo, today both countries are far right and have openly racist policies.
😮 Never visiting Austria with my latin American skin.
@@RafaelRodrigues-rx9ry Don't take a statement of the time as a statement for today, besides it being a tad racist to apply to the general public. Arnold Swarzenegger of course is a good example of a famous Austrian known for being humanitarian and gregarious. Hungary's prime minister is hilariously somewhat aligned with Putin's communist Russia with Soviet aspirations, if that says anything about the implications of having facist and racist policy... but in any country that will be an unfortunate problem, even in America there are right wing nuts and left wing nuts that are all to comfortable with passing authoritarian policy to suppress their percieved enemies.
@@kindseyvaughn8667 it seems deep-rooted racism is still present in almost every once-imperialist state or community up to this day, including in Europe. Thinking based on heritage rather than a myriad of other factors.
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Yeah, Soylent green is a little too much on the nose
Germany was not really denazified. When the first Chancellor of the Bundesrepublik Deutschland , Konrad Adenauer was asked why there are so many Nazis in his administration he answered: (quote) " No one throws away dirty water as long as he has no clean water."
Wtf does that mean
“No one takes a poop if they are constipated ” that’s how the quote sounds 😅
@@LemonHead-sq5wsDo you take your ignorance of the English language as a badge of honour?
@@LemonHead-sq5wsit means "we have nobody qualified who isn't a nazi"
Meaning he wanted new personnel but maybe the people in the area wer not good enough to take on the jobs if these people were taken out. Maybe thats what he meant?
I had a neighbour (passed away in 1998) who was a WW2 RCAF Navigator and former POW. He told us about his being shot down, his one and only parachute jump, capture and subsequent incarceration in a Luftstalag. He was caught up in a tree when a German Police Officer found him on patrol. He saw that his situation was fruitless and surrendered. He fully expected brutal treatment or summary execution, but instead received civility. The officer locked him up in their cells at the station, ensured he got a good meal and said in very broken English “for you the war is over, no worry”. He wasn’t turned over to the Gestapo, but rather the next morning a Luftwaffe guard and driver showed up to take him to a Stalag for questioning and incarceration. Life in the camps (he was moved a few times) was rough, but he survived and later liberated by the Russians.
Upon return to Canada, he found civilian life rather boring and rejoined the RCAF. While stationed in Zweibrüken West Germany (not sure, but I think he said that) he started looking for the Police Officer who captured him. He found him, still a Police Officer in the same small town near Frankfurt. During the de-Nazification of the American Sector where he was, any Police Officer that had anything to do with the Nazi Party whether as a member of the Gestapo, ordinary member of the Party or even as a “willing participant” of Nazi atrocities were at least fired or had to stand trial. Complete Police Departments were rebuilt with new recruits, trained by mostly US Police Officers from scratch to become Peace Officers rather than enforcers of the political ideologies of the Führer. Being that he kept his job, that would mean that either he was one of the good ones, or he managed to squeeze through. My neighbour preferred to think it was the former because of the kindness he received.
On a side note, the Police Officer told my neighbour that he still had the pistol he took from him upon capture, and if he wanted it back he could go home and get it for him. I guess he was required to turn it over to the Police Department, but I guess he slipped it into his coat as a souvenir, contrary to regulations. He probably took quite a risk keeping it after Germany’s surrender while the occupiers disarmed the local populace. Anyway, my neighbour said he could keep it. He thanked him for his kind treatment considering he was an enemy combatant.
The de-Nazification of the police was definitely necessary to the reconstruction of the Federal Republic of Germany from the ashes of the Third Reich, but it must have been difficult with almost a 100% change of personnel.
That’s lovely! Could make a good book
Damn what a story!
Did you have the impression that this police officer was affected by Nazi ideology, whatever that may be? And what would that mean for a majority of the German people of the Third Reich?
I believe that most of us are under the impression that the Third Reich was inhabited by Nazis and that almost no one could escape this. It is a distorted perception, as fueled by fictional depictions from novels, movies and even documentaries. Germans were not that easily affected by any ideology, just as most other people aren't. But, they dealt with the conditions of their times, as all people do.
"De-nazification" is a term that emanated from the Allied policy, as created by psychological warfare deliberations. It assumes that people can and will be hypnotised by some ideology that is being imposed upon them somehow. It's a myth that most of us came to accept at face value. The Germans after 1945 did not have to be "de-nazified" any more than the people of the GDR needed to "de-sovietized" after 1990.
Germans hate Slavs and Poles especially.... Poles and Jews were one and the same before the war and Germany succeeded in separating Jews from Polish culture/society.
WWII was a continuation of the Germanization of Polish lands in Germanic efforts of hegemony.
@@Guido_XL from the description of the Police Officer my neighbour gave me, he did describe him as an older man, perhaps in his 50s. This might have a lot to do with his apparent immunity to Nazi doctrine.
Hint: it didn’t. Thousands of Nazis later worked in Governments in Ministries in intelligence Services and in the Police. And obviously everywhere else too.
@iamryan767 Germany didn’t denazify quickly after the War. They worked in all kinds of Places years after the War
@JonasReichert1992 i dont think they openly identified as nazis though.
Hey, didn't communism shortly thereafter take over the entire planet?
Verfassungschutz are kids of nazis
Actually they were mass deported, and basically g*nocided. Imprisoned for speaking German. They were destroyed by the allies, I think it was like 8 million Germans, someone you might know, Candace Owen’s, has talked about it recently.
This information just got a lot more useful.
Here it comes again.
4 years of TDS hysteria wasn’t enough for you?
@@Jdjdjdujakzgsha what is TDS?
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Which basement dweller was that??
That really was horrible. Thanks for the time stamp.
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I literally almost skipped this entire video because of this. Thank you.
Thank you!!
My father was part of the American occupation of Germany in the postwar era, in the early 1960s (yeah, we were there a long time). He was fluent in several European languages, including German, so he could understand what Germans were saying around them when they thought he couldn't. He told me that denazification was a _failure_ , regardless of the propaganda messages back home in the states.
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@@DrOtto-sx7cpHaving a base and actively holding a country are different. I kind of think we should have held it tighter, or even had it become the new Israel, instead of taking the old one back for the Jews.
might be a reaction to being colonized and humiliated by the US long after the war ended
@@illme3435 You can't give them the high road after losing a war where they genocided 2 races of people.
What I gathered myself is that it was mainly thanks to konrad Adenauer that Germany didn't had a sudden Nazi uprising again
Having a internal politician who actually fixed issues can help a lot when trying to persway a ideology
The Auschwitz trials in 1960 (the only real attampt to get justice for what happened in the camps until decades later) really only happened because of the district attorney of Frankfurt, Fritz Bauer. He was a fascinating figure, being in exile during the nazi years, and probably on of the few high ranking figures in the justice system that actually were clean. He formed a small group of young prosecutors, and they essentially worked in isolation from the rest of his office because a lot of them had vivid nazi pasts. It got to the point where he thought the Telex machines in his office were bugged, so he used the one in the vegetable wholesaler across the street.
If the Auschwitz trials and Fritz Bauer don't already have Videos in the Whistler RUclips universe, they should really have one. Some of the witness testimony from the first trial is absolutely heartbreaking, I'll never forget the one where an older survivor of the camp laments the death of a young boy, the desperation and shock in his voice is just heartbreaking.
Wasn't there a movie about that?
Fritz Bauer definitely deserves credit.
The judicial system is a part where the denazification was especially poor. They just attested each other that everything they did was legal and kept going. Over all there was a 2/3 continuation from the third Reich to the Western German system, at the highest national court it was even 3/4.
Thanks. Germany 1945 to 1950 is a slice of history that I have the hardest time finding information on.
I recall that in my country, the Netherlands, the number of those who were accused of collaborating with the Germans ran into the hundred thousand on a populace of six million. Given that the country was devastated by the war, it was found to be next to impossible to prosecute every person, especially since some of those accused were high-ranking officials needed to run the country. A lot of people who deserved punishment likely escaped it.
Same as in Germany. If justice stands against practicability, it's always the latter that wins.
@@solokom”justice”
I'm always curious cuz my dad's family moved here from the Netherlands in 1951 when he was a 6 month old baby. I wonder if they were secretly on the bad side. My dad always says they help Jews hide during the war, but he also says Dutch people aren't that racist so I don't think he really knows 😅
@@Trump.is.a.nazzii There were collaborators in every country, whether they believed the ideology or they were just trying to save their own skins. But then there were people like my maternal grandmother's parents, who hid Jews in their farms. An entire nation cannot be classified as good or bad, not even the nation who instigates the conflict.
@@Trump.is.a.nazzii “bad side”?
You mean the communists, British and Americans?
We didn't, which was the reason for the rightful anger of the kids-generation of the wartime generation in the late 1960s. Without them, little would have ever even been researched/prosecuted or taught in schools.
That may be the best and most succinct answer I’ve seen here.
All Germany has managed to do is slap a different color of paint on the same machine.
@@Arbidarb yeah, Germany and Austria literally created the SS again in 2020 under the claim they were going to hunt down the unvaccinated "to give them a fine". Seriously go look it up
Lol and now look what Germany has become 😂
@cloudyskies3937 Can you run that by me again with some additional context and clarity??
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I was going to say that
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As a german. There was Never a denazification! They are still there and in power
What a load of crap. Can you give any major examples of nazi ideology in power?
Your comment sounds like the same false guilt that is described in the video.
The false guilt of the German people today & in the past (feeling responsible and wanting to self punish over something they didn't do) is imo why Germany now has created the conditions for more and more mass resentment with very crazy & irrational immigration policies.
Unlike the Left Danish Govt, and others.
Japan on the other hand, committed huge atrocities after ww2. But the US instead removed the cause and thus now Japan is a peaceful & unified country, unlike Germany.
Japanese people do not feel false guilt for something they didn't do.
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In Germany, the false guilt (guilt for something u didn't do) and desire for self punishment was protected onto the young, and I think that is why Germany has made such irrational and conflict creating immigration policies. Creating growing mass resentment and conflict.
Unlike the Danish Left wing Govt, or others.
And compare with Japan, who did massive atrocities in ww2.
Yet afterwards the US simply removed the cause, helped them become a good country.
Thus - unlike Germany - they are now a peaceful country where govt policy tends to be more in the national interest, esp immigration policy.
Germany govt policy seems to be more about making up for Germany's past, or feeling good about the policy, rather than its effects on society.
For example irrational and anti nation immigration (inc support for Forced Entry & Settlement; and welfare; suppressing or falsifying data about immigrants**) and energy policy.
I'm not sure how it has changed recently, but this is recent history.
**in Denmark & Netherlands accurate data exists on immigration.
In Germany accurate data is banned.
Also it falsified by clasifying a new immigrant with a citizenship as being of German decent.
So look at other countries with no ban on accurate data for a better idea.
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Good things are still good even if made to feel good
German as in German?
Or German as in illegal immigrant who pretends they belong here?
My favorite de-Nazi effort is how they made replacement medals for veterans so they could wear the no swastika version at reunions and parades. The silliest was that the band Kiss had to change their logo because the lightning bolt S was too close to the SS symbol and was banned
The second part of your comment is unrelated to the first and is stupid
@@M_SC you seem well adjusted
@@M_SC not related when both refer to symbols banned during the denazification program. Besides being a knob, your reading comprehension is atrocious. Read some books, visual media has made you stupid
The most stupid part of de-nazification is banning license plates with letters that could somehow be related to the Nazis. Some people had actually have to pay fines because their state issued license plate (which has the persons initials in them) contained comsidered letters.
@@M_SC banned symbol, another banned symbol. Not related?
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Ditto
Seriously. What were they thinking?
Eat your Soylent Green!!! Ths chancellor has ordered it. No doublethink
Turns out that having actual consequences to their actions was a powerful motivator to at least be quiet about it and lay low.
Most went to america. Hitler had a family that served in the US Navy.
Germans hate Slavs and Poles especially.... Poles and Jews were one and the same before the war and Germany succeeded in separating Jews from Polish culture/society.
WWII was a continuation of the Germanization of Polish lands in Germanic efforts of hegemony.
Something that had been missing at times in modern times or lets say in my lived memory since the 1990s here in germany and so it was no surprise we got of that old shit nowadays again, well and Steve Bannon spreading his culture war bullshit to fringe right parties here in europe also did not help. That asshole should be banned from ever entering europe again.
@@duelde-consulting6403 that particular family branch hated what Hitler was doing and his nephew was the one who fought against him in the US Navy to show just how against him they were.
@@duelde-consulting6403I believe he likely went to south America with a lot of the nonpaperclip national socialists
Dresden. Kassel. Dortmund. Hannover. Its so sad walking in these beautiful cities and seeing how much more beautiful they were in the past. My biggest hope is for a brighter future without such violence and bloodshed.
Who cares how beautiful they were? What about the innocent children who had experiments performed on them or twins who were killed in the same night?
The answer might surprise you: We didn't, really. That's how the student revolts of 1968 and the Red Army Fraction happened.
@@KomradeKrusher rote armee was likely nato
The red army faction was Marxist, fym? Unless you tryna say they're two sides of the same coin.
@@accountrandomnumber182 strategy of tension. Funny how many ultraleft orgs just blew up civilians, right ?
In Germany we have a saying. Never ask a woman her age, a man his salary and a big German company what they did between 33 and 45.
I appreciate that you made this knowing you’d make nothing off of it. It’s important to have accurate information out there about subjects like this.
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Plottwist: it didn't.
I watched the WW II in color series on Netflix, and it was stunning. But the last episode, end of the war, is what really twisted me in a knot. A German woman on the series was a child when the war was happening, between 9-12. They fled Germany when war came, and when they heard on the radio Germany surrendered, wanna know what her mom said? Basically “let’s just forget this happened and move on.” Said never say Hitler’s name again. Their little moment of peace was very short lived, as they got word from neighbors Russians were there to round up German citizens who fled, and had to go on the run. You don’t get the luxury of feigning amnesia when you watched your government round up your Jewish neighbors and throw them in concentration camps.
What about watching your government rounding up your japanese and asian neighbours and putting them in concentration camps? What resistance was put up there? What kind of luxury of forgetting do you get for this? Saying "sorry", moving on and forgetting about it? Or for 100 Years of slavery? Or for the genocide of the indigenous americans?
Please apply your generous look on the world also to your own country. Where is the responsibility of a ton of shit done wrong there in the last 80 years alone? Getting to grips with the Nazi past is an endeavour in germany for decades now, no end in sight - the US has not even started to care about her own past, let alone to show responsibility, while being on the brink of installing a dictator themselves now. The same is true for the british and french for their colonisation, the italians for never confronting their own fascism, the russians and chinese for the murder of more of their own citizens by their governments after the war, than being killed during the war, and so on.
If just every country would put their own houses in order, the world would be much cleaner. This of course does not suspend germany from continuing to do so. But at least they do work on it.
Why did they do that?
Are you insulting women? That’s normal for women to “immediately move on” when they feeeeel something is ugly.
@@karamlevi His literal point was his last sentence. Don't be obtuse.
@@karamlevihe's not insulting women, but you are
Something that is easily and eagerly omitted is the fact that a big chunk of Germans hated the Nazis, but kept it really quiet because of the Gestapo. Also, many Germans were absorbed into the respective bureaucracies because they had little choice (the army being one such bureaucracy).
not buying that - the Germans were the Nazis and the Nazis were the Germans - very few Germans didn't support the Nazis, although they all pretended to have "hated" them after the war
Well yeah, the ones with the guns are usually the scary ones **cough cough*** government.
Maybe, but the bigger chunk were indifferent or fans of the NSDAP.
That's what populism, porpaganda and mass-hysteria does to you.
@@I_dont_need_a_handle this
yup the real nazi people worked under the SS, that isn't to say some weren't also spread within the rank and file.
The whole argument basically comes down to people do what they have to either out of fear or simple apathy and that no culture is a single rock but many strata. Id even wager most weren't nazis but had a real anger at the rest of Europe for the Treaty of Versailles which was the cause of the whole fucking thing in the first place
The fact that they took off these nazi uniforms so fast and ran like scared rabbits , when they saw the end coming, is a testament to how guilty they were inside.
Or they were not into it that much. It's not as if they had a choice to be there.
Most people in Nazi party weren't real believers the Nazi party was an actual poliitcal party; many had to join who didn't believe orctheir careers were over
More likely they realized that the Jews were going to continue their genocide of Western Christians
Or maybe they saw what the Russians and British were doing to Nazis.
Or they believed propaganda that told them the Germans were going to be exterminated by the Allies.
You know, a similar line to the one the leadership had been using to motivate and justify (to themselves) the H?
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Simon, your iron grip is slipping. One of the dungeon monkeys got out of its cell and appeared in front of the camera. It told us we should really try the same prison food they get. Then mentioned something about plant murder...
There were many Germans who actively supported the Nazis regime, but there were also many who didn’t dare speak up or act against them out of fear for their safety, and the safety of their family. Many tried to retreat into their family life, but Hitler made sure that they couldn’t escape even in their own houses when he instituted the Nazis youth programs. The German secret police were as ruthless in acting against any hint of dissent as they were against anyone with a drop of Jewish blood in their family tree. Because it would be extremely hard to differentiate between a passive supporter and an active supporter (and would purge their society of the skills needed to rebuild after the war), it seems that only the most visible leaders in the Nazis regime were prosecuted.
That and how much extra death and destruction came from Hitler's refusal to surrender. I bet that got a lot of people to have pretty strong second thoughts about the Third Reich.
The majority of all Germans back then was actually actively supporting the Nazi Regime. Not just many. And it was not the German secret police that was hunting down people for doing things like a saying "Scheiß Hitler" when drunk, it was your jealous neighbor that made sure that you end up in prison or in a concentration camp for doing things like that.
And that extremely hard to differentiate between active and passive supporter, nope, not been that way. They just couldn't imprison all active supporters because they were too many, society wouldn't have been able to function afterwards, so they let them go.
Not many, most Germans actively supported the Nazi regime. And nope, not the secret police was hunting down people that were against the regime, it were mostly neighbors sending neighbors into prison or into death camps: Partly because they actually said something against the regime, most likely when drunk and partly to get rid of them, because their place looked nicer, or similar pointless things.
And well, it had been that many active supporters, that if they would have imprisoned them all, society wouldn't have been able to function anymore. That is the reason why they went free.
It's weird how parallel the societies of Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia were, yet both were sworn enemies, and one is openly celebrated today without recourse.
They took most of their ideas from the Democrat’s play book from before the Civil War.
They actually had to dial it back a few notches…
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My mom just showed me that movie. Classic haha
Perhaps these pictures need to be posted these days to stop the people saying it never happened.
I'm German, too, and even though many here say it didn't work, it kind of did, at least for some generations. Of course, that doesn't mean there weren't Nazis, just that there weren't too many. For some decades a big part of political partys and I think also of the people did shift views more to the middle and so for many Germans, the denazification worked.
I would even still guess that most people here aren't nationalistic at all. Before you ask, why not nationalistic? Simple, because the main way to denazify the later generations was to lower nationalism and to make a feeling of some shame about the past an integral part of our school teaching.
However, especially after the reunification of Germany, the extreme right wing in politics and with it the Nazis became stronger again, and the more groups of people felt betrayed by the normal parties, the stronger the right wing became. Or ok, first it was most parties expect the two biggest, which became stronger but over the years more parts shifted to the right.
Nowadays, especially but not only in the eastern states, the AFD is the second most popular party. In the beginning they may have been "just" a right-wing party but over the last 13 years most of the politicians who weren't on the far right side left that party, and today large parts of it are Nazis in all but name.
Long story short, history tends to repeat itself, it would have been nice if people could have learned from the terrible past just once.
People lost their taste for it after learning of holocaust; bothers me that it's like nobody's willing to admit that and they just blamed over and over again
I think people underestimate the effect that reunification had in kind of rekindling some nazi ideations and the culpability of the Soviet Union in that. When they set up the GDR they fully leaned into nationalism and the aesthetic of the Wermacht in all but the Swatikas even down to recreating an Afrika Korps and it was no accident that the USSR set up East Germany as a revanchist land mind.
Reunification was a symptom of nationalism over antifascism.
Germany was devided to make sure fascism wouldn't rise again.
Reunification was the Germany deciding themselfs that german unitiy was more important than "never again".
Nobody seems to give a sh… about the AfD nationalist nonsense. It’s a one trick pony. Stop mass immigration and the AfD fades into nothingness. When they were merely against the Euro, they were a joke. Got less than 5% of the vote. It was Merkels’ failed immigration policy of 2015 that got them into the parliament in 2017. Merkel is to blame for Brexit and the AfD. Close the EU borders.
It's not all about being influenced by ideologies. About 30% of the population are on a spectrum of antisocial personality traits, and Nazi ideology just fits their personality.
Trouble is that after regime change you need to tolerate some people who worked for the old government to have enough competent civil servants to run the new government (blanket bans were a problem in 2003 Iraq for a counterexample)
That may be, but what is the message to the world, if the companys who destroyed Europe are now the richtest in germany?
Germany lost, the Nazis won, yeah some died and some where persecuted, but that happend unser the Nazis too, just ask the SA.
Germany was treated so mildly after the war, so the loser of war faired much better than many of it's victims and germans believe it's because even our woman work 2times hardes then anyone.
During the add, Simon has way to much hair, and not nearly enough beard... Im starting to suspect it might wasnt?! Another poor soul in Simons dungeon forced to work
But we learnt there is a 6 hr video coming up about Tesla and Edison
That was Daven, he has connections to the lizard overlords allegedly, and thus Simon was forced to let him out of the basement. Daven's actually the owner and founder of TIFO..
@@aceundead4750 Oh, that guy got a name? I just thought Simon be outsourcing the ad reads now.
@@tubensalat1453 yeah, plus the channel Higher Learning is hosted by Daven (not many episodes because booking flight time is expensive).
Video starts at 3:35 ditch the stupid ads, putting an ad in a video that i'm trying to watch will make me never buy your product, annoying as hell, especially when i'm paying for premium so I don't have to watch ads.
I was all set to skip through the sponsor spot and then... "plant murder." Now I'm invested.
Germans hate Slavs and Poles especially.... Poles and Jews were one and the same before the war and Germany succeeded in separating Jews from Polish culture/society.
WWII was a continuation of the Germanization of Polish lands in Germanic efforts of hegemony.
lol- same for me
People who have a following, whether they want it or not, are leaders of people. There is nothing more disgusting than a leader of people accepting money in exchange for giving marketers access to their following. They unleash manipulators upon their following some of which trust the judgment of their leader. I'll never understand people who wink and are like, "I get it man, make your money." All you're doing is projecting you would make the same immoral decisions this dude did if you ever became popular to others. From a classist point of view, it's like an Egyptian slave making the pyramids being like, "Yeah, the pharaoh is awesome abusing his place in society like this." It's Stockholm syndrome. Allegedly rare but happens to entire populations who are deluded. This kind of stuff manifests all the time in America toward businessmen doing pretty much anything that is legal to make money. "Wow, that's smart! Oh, so much profit." ... uhh why are you idolizing businessmen that are abusing you, the customer, especially when you're not even the one in the same class to abuse other classes. A serf glorifying the king rather than criticizing him. Absolute badness and madness.
@@AG-ld6rv dude, all I was saying was that I became more intrigued and open to listening to the sponsorship pitch through the clever use of word play. I still had no intention of buying the product, but felt the entertainment of it would be worth the extra time. Getting all philosophical and navel-gazey on the intersection of audience captivity and content creator financial realities is certainly within your rights but I have to wonder... did you type that out in the moment or have that ready to go just to copy and paste in?
@@hancocki> dude, all I was saying was that I became more intrigued and open to listening to the sponsorship pitch through the clever use of word play. I still had no intention of buying the product, but felt the entertainment of it would be worth the extra time.
Marketing isn't about entertainment. It is about convincing people to make decisions that may not be the best for themselves. There is zero reason to idolize businessmen hiring marketing employees hellbent on manipulating a chunk of the population to do things that, if they understood everything, would not make that decision.
> Getting all philosophical and navel-gazey
As a general rule, I've found people who try to insult others for thinking tend to support bad things. Here, it's marketing and allowing others to manipulate your followers when you are a leader. Other times, it's graver situations that deal with how nations treat their people and other nations.
> Getting all philosophic [ .. ] on the intersection of audience captivity and content creator financial realities is certainly within your rights but I have to wonder... did you type that out in the moment or have that ready to go just to copy and paste in?
I'm writing stuff that is in my head. There are no two comments that I make that are the same. You can phrase it as philosophically as you want, but at the end of the day, it is wrong to take money in exchange for the manipulation of people that trust you as a leader. This is common sense unless you're a psychopath or a sociopath that has been taught to love abuse dished out by businesses.
My friend was born in Germany in 1965 and came to the US in the late 80's after marrying a US soldier stationed there. We were talking about this and she said, as kids, they hated the annual "why the Nazi's were bad" unit in school. It was essentially the same information every year. A few of her family members had been members of the party. Some believed but most (according to them) joined because it was the only way to keep their jobs. Both her parents were in secondary school during the war. Neither joined the Hitler Youth so both were ostracized in their towns. The "all Germans were culpable" narrative was wrong, just as the "nobody knew what the Nazi's were doing" was also wrong. Her generation was tired of hearing about the Nazis and just wanted to live their lives.
I don't have a large amount of sympathy for students having to sit through a boring lecture. There are like 17 million people who wanted to just live their lives too that we didn't get to hear from.
@@nelson-haha89 She never said it was boring, she said they had to listen to lectures telling them that they caused the death of millions of people and the destruction of much of Europe just because they were German. Kids needed to know what happened and why, they did not need to be told they were the cause even though it happened 20 years before they were born.
@@nelson-haha89fake
@@nelson-haha89lies
@@nelson-haha89you are pathetic
The pace of German denazification was slightly faster than Germany's birth and death rates.
Are you guys able to upload to Apple podcasts or Spotify again? I miss having the audio versions for work and driving 🙂
32:45
Thanks!
"soylent is plants... SOYLENT IS PLANTS" 😂😂😂
Hmmm.tastes good....
Is that a finger?
That's what they said in the movie...
Yeah, you don't use that name and try that hard if it's legit plants. 😂
This was very hilariously bad timing, that caught me so off guard, I inhaled my drink like literally went down the wrong tube, I just gave myself a "pulmonary JD&C" and then it exploded out of my nose LOL...
I don't have anything to compare this feeling to, probably because I've never died before LOL I joke, but that was very unpleasant... LOL
It’s just plants. Trust me. 😊
3:15 "soil it" sounds frikkin stupid. I hate the idea, home cooked meal is best, we have dish washers for dirty dishes, we can buy fresh food out and about if we want the luxury of not cooking or doing dishes.
They didn't de-nazify. My sister had a woman boss who immigrated here after World War 2. That woman was a mean nasty old woman. Many of the older generation that came here after world war 2 hung onto their Nazi beliefs until the day they died AS I believe this woman did too. The ones I met were cold no nonsense people. I was told that after the war Germans created coffee houses or beer houses (I don't know what they're called) all over their country expressly so they could go there to hang onto their Nazi beliefs.
I can't imagine being born in 1933 and all you hear as your growing up is Nazi ideology. How could you think any other way? Your thinking would be set. To change a lifetime of thinking like that would be difficult.
Unfortunately you have no idea what their ideology truly was as it has been scrubbed. Perhaps you should study the history of Europe first before judging their ideology. History is written by the winners
@@Fkfkrkdodlw Well people there is one right here !
What were their beliefs about freemasonry, left wing republics, and Jews? You don’t even know why they said they were fighting. You need to really think about that. Germans were denazified there is no question, their books were burned and they were sent to re-education camps. You really need to ask yourself why no one ever brings up the fact that the nazis claimed to be fighting a war against international Jewry and secret societies. Why can’t that be known??? Truth is stranger than fiction
@@trueweapon2349 I know my history yes- do you???
@@trueweapon2349 what did the Nazis claim to be fighting? You can’t even answer that, therefore there is no reason to converse with you. Open a book. I’ll help you, forces occultes, judeo bolshevism, judeo masonry, court Jew. You are speaking on things you know absolutely nothing about
My grandfather was a teen in Nazi Germany and he was in a military training camp when the war ended. Sometimes you recognize that he is still traumatized and brainwashed in some regards. It's really sad because he was a kid back then and it influenced his whole life.
Do you think you're not brainwashed?
they were making germany gay and he dealt with the problem in the worst way possible. blamed a whole people and killed them. nothing compared to the 20 million christians killed but still.
You're brainwashed into believe that you're not brainwashed.
This is one of the funnier ads I’ve seen here on YT. Next ad blink SOS in Morse code if you need help 😂
That's hilarious! 😹
Lololol agreed 😅
I was on the forum that the founder of Soylent was on as he invented it. Good God, he's a messed up man.
Do y'all not know the Lore??
@@CGingRunno
Amazinf videg. Good job. I rarely comment on videos but this is amazing work!
My Opa (grandfather) was conscripted into the German army in 1943 and sent to the Russian front. Miraculously, he survived. After allied victory, he walked home. Home was a hamlet near Miltenberg Am Main. It took him 19 months to finally stumble into the arms of my Oma and their eight children.
Nearly the entire population of the village had rejected the dogma of the nationalist socialist government and were so elated to see Oskar return, they threw a party!
Post war was beyond belief. My mother and her sisters were put into a “fat camp” and forced to eat unfamiliar foods. Although well-meaning, some of the food was repugnant including peas that had a petroleum tinge and chicken that made the children sick.
My mother wrote a memoir retelling some of the struggles but through the eyes of a child and this video aligns with her stories.
Bin aus Rippberg =) =) =)
Similar story with my Opa. Off to the eastern front - lost a leg.
yeah, they ALL lived in villages the rejected the dogma of the Nazis ... after the war
@@Marcel_Audubon read your history - there were lots of people who did not support Naziism. Just like ALL Americans support Trump - right? Your sarcasm is rather silly
@@LapinDebogues You offer a telling example ... Americans who didn't support Trump rejected him at the polls and turned him out of office ... Germans who didn't support Naziism cowered in the corner without a peep because they were afraid of losing their nazi sponsored jobs.
"Although I'm heading to the Nazi rally wearing a Nazi armband and might loot a synagogue on the way, let history show that deep, deep down, I really didn't support them!" doesn't really cut it
I am reminded of a history professor at a Canadian university where I studied who used the terms 'de-nazification' and re-nazification'. Accordingly, once the Cold War began the western allies realized that old Nazis were also good anti-communists and hence many found their way back into positions of power. One prominent example is Hans Filbinger. He was a naval judge who in the dying days of the war signed up on the executions of so-called deserters. Filbinger later became state premier of Baden-Württemberg, a German Bundesland.
But did they?... Are you sure?
Here are some facts...
After World War II, there were some former Nazis who became part of the post-war German government. Notable examples include:
- Walter Scheel, who became President of Germany in 1974, and Kurt Georg Kiesinger, who served as Chancellor from 1966 to 1969. Both were members of the Nazi Party during the war.
- Hans Globke, a high-ranking official in the post-war German government, who played a significant role in drafting antisemitic Nuremberg Race Laws in Nazi Germany.
These individuals, and others like them, were part of a complex and controversial process of Denazification that aimed to rid German society of Nazi ideology. However, the presence of former Nazis in post-war German government was a source of ongoing debate and controversy.
Can’t wait for my Soylent drinks to arrive so I can take them to work and school and instantly earn my new nickname for life,
Soy boy
I know there are a lot of opinions and "on paper" versus "in practice" comments moving to the contrary of the title of this video, but I appreciate you guys putting this video out. It is only briefly covered in our public education in the US. WW2 is highly covered, but denazification is barely touched on. I watch a lot of documentaries about WW2 regarding survivor stories, etc. However, I'm also interested from the soldier perspective and citizen perspective. I personally find much less information and stories about this than of any other angle that is covered about the Holocaust. In fact, it wasnt until the past few years, did I even learn any reasons about what else was happening in the world and why Japan bombed the US when the US hadnt engaged directly or officially in WW2 until then and then we went to Europe. It never made sense why Japan just bombed us and then we went east instead of west - because that is what we were taught / what i remember from history in school.
German here, as it turns out the last few years, this didn't work very well
Seems they did when your being invaded by the middle east. Merkel ruined your country
Cuz the actual N@zis went to the Americas :/
Well, Merkel and her ilk helped fuel that fire. "Wir schaffen das".
Prove it that it really is rise of Nazis again not people wanting their country from globalist who rather flood the country with outside who will not integrate with the country . On of that your left side makes that scream pointing out he bad consequences of what we are doing is hate speech
I’m not completely confident in that. That said, I think there’s always people who will think pushing down or kicking someone who’s already down makes them stronger/richer/more powerful, when all is does is demonstrate the opposite. Also, I’m not confident that at least some of the problems in the West aren’t funded and encouraged by the East.
I can't help but feel like for most common people denazification only required showing them the films of what the allies discovered at the camps. The horror of knowing you helped foster something like that would live with you the rest of your days.
Many people knew and chose to act like it is not happening
You'd be surprised
Ofc people knew about the camps don't be silly
Many worked alongside the slaves and ofc they saw them dying from mistreatment
Those columns of " zebras" as they call them was passing through their towns and dropping dead all over the place
Soldiers was writing about their actions to their relatives
Don't reproduce cold warvmyths
People tend to prefer to believe that information that contradicts their views is false rather than changing their beliefs. If they supported the Nazis, showing that likely wasn't enough, if they didn't support the Nazis, they didn't need to be denazified.
"The horror of knowing you helped foster something like that" Pity that Russians don't feel the same about the Katyn Forest massacres. Maybe then they wouldn't have been so keen to invade Ukraine.
Short answer: we didn't
This video being sponsored by Soylent is crazy 💀
I saw Soylent green I know it's actually in there
Why?
The jokes write themselves 😂
I skipped that part of the video, what is it?
@FlourishAndFlavorsBakery it's a meal supplement
You need to do a video on the Battle of Castle Itter where Wehrmacht troops fought alongside French, American and British POWs against S.S. troops to liberate the camp. Fascinating stuff.
Mark did a vid about it
@@aka99 Simon isn't 'Mark'
If it was just about information, it can be Googled.
True Germans in a time where most were traitors
24:32 “The soviets acted relatively chill,” caught me off guard lol
The Soviets were anything but chill. They insisted on the Nuremburg trials. Not surprising given that they lost 20 million people.
Stalin suggesting killing them all. Some thought he was joking, but he wasn't joking at all.
They just slapped "Communist" onto them and said "you no Nazi now"
Of course the Nazis were chill to white guys. Why they didn’t just make these Germans kiss a Jewish persons feet to find the Nazis I will never know.
@@charlottealexander2329 27 million russians. Add onto that 13 million polish(6 of which were polish jews) and you kinda understand them
close enough, welcome back vsauce.
Lemme tell you as someone from rural Germany: A lot of places have a "late easter celebration" today (April 20th. You can guess why?) at that one bar where the cops won't show up.
Let me guess, they serve "Eiernockerln"
@@Martin_Koepl Ich hoffe mal du bist nicht in Bayern. Sonst muss ich dich leider für illegales gendern melden.
Führergeburtstag ceased to be a national holiday after 1945. Unfortunately, some sad individuals still mark the day.
Wo kommst du her? Ich habe das mein ganzes Leben lang nicht gehört, und ich bin fast 60 Jahre alt
@@dx5018 consider yourself accomplished in your choice of friends
Basically the effort to de-Nazify Germany worked as well as the effort to de-Confederatize the American south after the Civil War. The current trends in both countries show the great success of this.
AmeriKKKa still has statues of Confederates, and people display the flag. Germany leaned, and AmeriKKKa didn't. AmeriKKKa whitewashed its history.
While I agree that the current state of German politics is a poor testament to denazification, this still is to be viewed in the context of a broader nationalist trend worldwide. Compared to the UK, the US, Italy, France, Austria and others, Germany is still quite tame as far as the reach of nationalist ideology into the populus is concerned. Not to relativize any of this as harmless, just to provide some frame of reference.
There are other nations - above all the USA - that we should be much more worried about than Germany.
While I agree that initial de-nazification was mostly lip-service, the student protest of 1968 actually helped shift the country further left and forced a more public and open debate about Nazi Germany and people's roles in it. The greatest problems with a resurgence of far right politics in Germany are - ironically enough - in the former GDR states.
@@KomradeKrusher That's because in the former GDR states they were never exposed to American propaganda until the Berlin Wall fell. Those students in the 60s were very much exposed to it.
@@overman2306 I'm not even sure I understand how that relates to anything I said or what the point you're trying to make is. Suffice to say that, besides all it's leftist, egalitarian and internationalistic outward presentation, the GDR had a neo Nazi problem brewing in its belly even before the wall fell.
Only read the title and was immediately entranced. This is the type of thing that’s awesome to learn about! Thanks Simon! (And the writers of course lol)
As a German i can say it never was denazified. Rather people suffered that much that they spoke bad about that time to their kids and grandkids, or you had grandparents which endorsed naziscm and told you so. Most Germans in my age (26) just dont talk about it, there are more left than you think.
As a 18 yo apprentice in the UK army we visited Belsen. 20 of us from the same college crying our eyes out.
I would love to go places, i was offered to go to see some concentrationcamps. But i couldnt. Im crying and spluttering at photos, i tried to watch a digital tour and was blubbering.
And yet, Bergen-Belsen was not a so-called "death" camp. Is it not striking that the only so-called "death" camps were all within the Soviet-controlled areas after WWII?
The heaps of emaciated bodies were shoveled together by the British, by the way. Did they tell you that? After the liberation, the inmates were not allowed to leave, as there still was an epidemic that was not supposed to reach the outside world. Probably more inmates died there after the liberation than before.
In the last months of the war, Bergen-Belsen became increasingly burdened with more and more inmates from the Eastern concentration camps, while the Red Army advanced. The constant bombardments depleted the potable water supplies, the food and medicine stocks. That caused the eventually devastating epidemics in Bergen-Belsen.
It is typical for the narrative to abuse the case of Bergen-Belsen as an alleged example of a "death" camp. The Western Allies never saw Auschwitz-Birkenau, Treblinka, Majdanek and all the other alleged "death" camps. The British liberated Bergen-Belsen and the Americans Buchenwald. None of those Western concentration camps were labeled "death" camps afterwards, once the initial rumours were debunked. "Strangely", that debunking never happened to the Eastern camps.
@Guido_XL the holocaust happened. It was evil. You need to learn this.
@@Guido_XL You should to out and visit Auschwitz & Birkenau. Go see the gas chambers and furnaces for yourself. Then think about what you mean when you talk about "debunking"
You believe in fairy tales. Poor you
Idk who decided that "Soylent" would be a good brand name, but I genuinely think they should rethink it.
Seriously. I’ve never even seen the movie but the cultural diffusion is so complete and k can’t believe Simeón made that choice and if it isn’t a US company then… idk do something marketing team lol
I was thinking nazis were gonna get a kick out of this being sponsored by “soylent”
I'm huge on meal replacement shakes and honestly...soylent is the worst out of all of them. the company blows, I don't know anyone who has a gut that agrees with it and it tastes very....distinct. Huel is a much better product and KaChava is even better, but too expensive for what it is. Huel is best imo not that anyone asked.
god that sounded like an ad. I promise its not paid i just love the shit.
@@ChunkyWaterisRealit does sound like an ad.. lol
I am very German. We are very pragmatic people. My grandparents generation saw the tide turning and it was beneficial in anyway not to be a Nazi anymore, so they stopped being Nazis. It is THAT simple.
It's a point Joseph Heller makes in Catch-22 when Yossarian is speaking to the old Italian man.
You need to reclaim your country.
Didn't stop believing, simply stopped expressing.
If you commit murder because you can and it was the easiest way to hide among other murders then you are a murderer and always a murderer.
If you ignore murder then you are a murderer.
WoW if only every criminal could be like, ya I used to do crimes but when I saw those police lights I stopped being a criminal. It is THAT simple.
I mean why even have a justice system if people are THAT pragmatic.
Yeesh, I had to tap the right arrow key like 40 times to get through that embedded ad. RUclips premium really needs to come up with a way to skip sponsor spots, we are paying for no ads and they're still being snuck in.
I used to work in the pharmaceuticals industry, and during that time my company bought an Austrian competitor. I was involved in the effort to integrate the two companies, and spent quite a bit of time working in Vienna. I communicated every day with Austrians, Germans, Belgians, Italians, the English, etc. During cultural sensitivity training, we were told not to bring up the wars, so I didn't. Had I not known about the wars, I would not have known they happened based on my interactions with my Austrian colleagues. I only heard one thing said that I thought contained a hint of Nazi ideology, and that was in a speech given by a scientist to other scientists. He admonished them to not be so "blue eyed' when confronted with facts that challenge their understanding. I guessed that "blue eyed" meant closed-minded, and the statement was ironic coming from a blond man with blue eyes. I was listening really hard for anti-Semitic sentiments, and all I heard was one person warning against group think. We had a conference in Salzburg, and I was excited to be where the von Trapp family escaped after their musical performance at the music festival. I asked a colleague if there were any Sound of Music tours. He said it was the wrong time of the year for the music festival. I explained that a pivotal scene in one of the best movies of all time took place in Salzburg. He had no idea what I was talking about. I sang some of the songs for him, even the one from the goatherd puppet show. That one is impossible to get out of your head once it gets started. He told me they don't allow movies about the war. That made me very sad, because I always thought of SOM being about love, and family and raindrops and roses and climbing mountains and solving problems and sixteen and seventeen and tasting champagne and does and deers and edelweiss. The war was just an excuse to wrap up this brown paper package of glorious music in string and send us home with a song in our heart. But only I was sad. My friend was oblivious. If you don't know the high price you pay to put the past behind you, then you're free from it.
Let's compare the de-Nazification program in Germany and Austria with Reconstruction after the Civil War. Hmmm... Maybe what , the cultural sensitivity training trainers were really advising us against was discussing moral superiority, because we stand on shaky ground on that subject.
You should make videos about your life regardless of the view count. This is beautifully written.
Being blue-eyed in German just means someone is naive. It's just an expression. Cause babies or small children often have blue eyes even when they end up with darker eyes later on. Doesn't have anything to do with nazi ideology. And the film "The Sound of Music" wasn't really that popular in Germany/Austria. I saw tours being offered when I went to Salzburg, and I had no idea what they were about. I've never heard about that movie before. So no big surprise, your colleague had no idea what you're talking about. There most definitely are german movies about WW2, but especially in the 50s and 60s no one wanted to be reminded of the dark times.
It really was an example of collective amnesia by the perpetrators and bystander amnesia by the majority of ordinary Germans. The most amazing success was Austria turning themselves into victims, when frankly they supplied more war criminals based on SS records. Roughly speaking, though around only 10% of the SS were Austrian they represented nearly 50% of the war criminals.
I don't always watch the ad reads (sorry not sorry) but this one was.very entertaining! Thanks, Daven!
We have a saying in Romania... Whatever comes out of a cat will always eat mouses.
Lmao that Sergeant taking down the street sign is hilarious
I assume most hardcore Nazis were dead from the war. The rest ran to Argentina and most regular Germans who remotely supported the party suddenly had amnesia 💯🤦
Well thats just if you think about the soldiers and higher ups in the rank of the Nazi government. This is more about the every day people who just were regular people but sided with the Nazi's.
Many unimportant individuals who harbored a positive view of nazism but maybe never carried out any violence themselves, simply kept their mouths shut and blended into normal society.
This is evident in the ww2 vet groups in Germany after the war that openly supported nazi ideas and carried on nazi ideology.
@@RyoHazuki224 No its not?
Its about politicians, scientists, industrials and other high ranking members of the party. Most of whom have gotten away with a slap on the wrist if that...
Most of the "normal citizen" never faced any sort of trial.
@@vyran7044 Obviously not. Due to the cold war we didn't have the time for twenty years of trials.
People often espouse, or even really believe, that which is safest and most convenient
They didn't. They just became politicians and scientists under operation paperclip.
Ah, but they weren't in Germany anymore
@@MrSniperfox29 or Nazi's.... technically.
Ya all 125 of them were the totality of the Nazi party.
@@MrSniperfox29 Wrong. German politicians, judges and police after WW2 where overwhelmingly staunch Nazis. In fact, to this day they still are. It was even worse in the eastern part of Germany, where Wehrmacht officers carried on like nothing happened, rebuilding the GDR military with the Orcs blessing. To this day, many military bases are named after Nazi war heroes.
Kinda like the white men of the US ... sure, in the constitution all men are created equal but that's not how it is practiced in society or government - especially if you are Jewish or African American. It's disgusting. I get it when humans are emotional creatures and lash out at a person or community member because of something that they did or didn't do- but to outright deny that these "other" people are people regardless of how one feels about them is disgusting and I don't understand it at all. It's not the norm, I realize, but it's also very much more present than it should be.
When you get clapped as hard as they did from both ends.. well it knocks that shit out of you.
"Soylent Green"?
Seriously?
😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Are we sure about it not made of people.?
@@langbo9999 The flavor label for Green suggests it's made of Mint Chocolate lovers.
I'm *definitely* not having that one under any circumstances. 🤣
if you are interested the Dollop did a pod cast on it ruclips.net/video/QYafzHUzJms/видео.html
It’s like every single day I find one assignment’s new channels
(Comment for the algorithm) I've been drinking Soylent for years. I prefer the coffee and the chocolate flavors 👍 it was the only thing I could keep down whilst on the postpartum hormonal rollercoaster.
Was it green?
My grandfather was an American stationed in Germany in the mid 1950s. He recalls that they were told to be more suspicious of "the reds" than the Nazis because anybody left wasn't worth it.
Bert Trautman was a Nazi paratrooper. He was a bad ass who won the iron cross. He was a frontline troop who took many allied lives. He was eventually captured and taken as a POW in Britain. He was made to work on a farm and was so disarmed by the fact that the locals treated him fairly and even got to like him after a while that he started to doubt everything he had been trained to think. He eventually married an english woman and play football for manchester city in goal. He broke his neck in the '56 FA cup final but continued to play till the end of the game. He said "I had two lives: one in germany as a Nazi and one of happiness in England". Read his story, its amazing
That was an awesome sponsor.
I had just finished the book, "After The Reich" by Giles MacDonogh, that covered all this in detail. It was quite a shock. So much happened that we just never heard about, like reopening the old concentration camps to hold suspected civilians, the starvation that was rampant after the war, and the treatment of Germans living in formerly occupied territories like Poland and Czechoslovakia, where the roles of oppressor and oppressed were essentially reversed.
This is exactly what I've always thought happened cause in every documentary they talk about how the Nazis completely controlled Germany from every high ranking official to school teachers throughout the country. There was just no way in you could go through all of them, i always thought it'd be faster to just let them age out and be replaced by the next generation which it seems they pretty let Happen after they realized how much work it would be
Im glad youre letting the writers out to get some camera time! And you let them shower first!
Don't skip the ad. It's not typical ad copy. 😅
I was on the web forum that the founder of Soylent was on when he invented it. Good God he's a weirdo and is really, really mentally messed up.
Many of them, particularly the rich industrialists who supported the party financially early and made massive profits during the war, were never held responsible.
7:29 Whether or not, the only way to get rid of fire is to fight fire with fire. Ends justify the means is the only way to get ends.
I have so much love for this channel!
I don't. It's become a propaganda channel
@@Squat5000don’t watch it then stupid.
@@Squat5000Don’t watch it then $TUPiD!
@@Squat5000 proof?
Everything about this Soylent stuff is hardcore dystopian. Blink "SOS" if you're taken hostage.
I just love how the green flavor has that meaty flavor. Idk how they get a plant product to taste like delicious steak in a bottle
They didn't.
Plenty of people still/again have those kinds of ideas in Germany and elsewhere in Europe. How do I know? Because of the sh!t propaganda that my flatmate constantly consumes.
You can’t kill an idea, unfortunately. The best thing to guard against such extreme beliefs is to educate and work with impressionable people to convince them that they’re being taken advantage of by scumbags who don’t actually care about them.
Nazism ended with knowledge of holocaust despite all the talk otherwise
Nazism is a sign of a mental disorder more than anything else.
@@Jolis_Parsecat this point I believe those people want to be taken advantage of, like CDU and/or FDP were in nearly every government and they are very open about being pro capitalism and people still vote them