From other vids, it staples too loose. I have dozens of dewalt tools, but I run milwaukee nail guns with an adaptor and dewalt battery. Same for track saw. Certain things suck on each platform. M12 is the winner for this IF you need it (and I do not).
I'm loving this. I just picked one up a new one on ebay for a good deal. I just fired a few staples into some old 1940 beams to secure some NM cable . It worked great!
for the coax you might be able to put a few layers of tape over the depth guide if you were running a whole lot so it doesnt fire as deep, or in a pinch poke the end of your screwdriver alongside the cable and fire the gun over that so it cant crush it.
Definitely gona get my hands on one will make clipping cables a hell of a lot easier. The company I work for already has 3 and yes apprentices will put the staples through cable one of ours has already done it twice.
I have had the DeWalt one for about a month and its works a treat for me as an IT Admin doing data cables for security cameras. Using it with the powerstack battery and so far gone through 1500 staples without needing to recharge. Im on the north side of brissy so let me know if you wanna borrow it for a comparison? Great review in experienced hands with real world situations.
Such an incredible tool! I think if they made a different staple for coax or data that could be an option? Maybe something with a semicircle so there's no tension on the physical cable maybe?
Hey great review, I’ve used mine pretty consistently for the last month and no complaints. I’ve used u watt master unpowered one for years and the clien tools for a while as well and the Milwaukee gun has been a game changer! So fast and even though kilos seem pricy it works out be cheaper then other clips I’ve used. I used my 3amp battery and have got about 2400 clips out of one chard.
I love mine! It makes you more efficient. Staple prices would make it a deal breaker for me if I was down unda... That's like equivalent $50+usd per box
Well I have the time for standard clips but I’m lazy, I might go buy one. I would love to see something for the coax/data though, maybe I can 3d a spacer to clip on 🤔
I thought there was no indicator too when I first started using some m12 tools. The battery level indicator is on every m12 tool itself not the m12 battery. It’s three small led lights usually near where the battery attached to the tool.
I think a generic depth adjustment could be ok, but not a categorical/qualitative one. RG6 "setting" on hardwood vs pine will give completely different results. It'd have to be more similar to a standard nailer and you give it a test with some scrap before starting a run. Once you get a feel for it you may know that RG6 on hardwood is "3" but on pine it's "1".
In 'merica we call them attics or crawl spaces. However, "in the ceiling" makes perfect sense too. Can we also say "in the roof" (as opposed to "on the roof") ?
We have a couple of the dewalt cable staplers at work. I find them a pain to use when trying to staple multiple switch wires at once as the enganment thingo is fairly narrow, the milwaukee one looks like it covers a much wider area.
I wish I'd waited. when I bought my dewalt cable stapler it was only because milwaukee didn't have one. didn't know they were right around the corner. don't get me wrong, the dewalt is awesome, and their tools usually are. but their customer service is rubbish so I've made the switch to red tools. anyway...rant aside it looks like a good bit of kit
As an upholsterer when firing staples into a fragile medium (or wanting a temporary fixing), we fire the gun on an angle. Would that work for you guys?
I’ve had mine for about a month now. It’s unreal into pine. Unfortunately I find it useless into hardwood, especially in old houses. The staples deform and buckle straight away if you tap them with a hammer. Have to pull out the hammer and clips for hardwood especially if it visible. 👎
Got a question. Is this better than dewalt one? I have dewalt one and it's not good. If it does clip the cable perfectly i probably buy it. I just need a honest feedback please
Hey, I haven’t used the dewalt yet. I am wanting to compare them in the future. Im also going to try the new high output m12 batteries and see if it goes better on hard wood. Otherwise i was impressed with this. If you only deal with very hard wood. I would avoid it.
@@AddictedtoTools Please do bro, that would be sensational. I often run new circuits under old houses, and being a tight spot, I tend to drag a hammer and bucket of clips through the soil when moving around.
This tool is rubbish, it really is just a stapler and not a very good one. The Dewalt isn't much better but is more powerful. The Dewalt seems to have never ending battery life on their stapler and has No problem at all driving same depth into Hardwood. But apart from that, they both are very low grade oversize junk. We did have some English made battery wire tackers from some years ago that fired different sized plastic shrouded wire staples that worked really well but the batteries weren't great. All you would have had to do was adapt a Dewalt battery to them and they would have been the Ducks Nuts. But these two don't even come close except as I said earlier the Dewalt Battery Life and More Guts than the Milwaukee. I guess I am still waiting for someone to actually make one that was designed by a user.
I can't justify the price when an Arrow t25 stapler is only ~$50, and I can get into a lot tighter places with it and a pack of 1000 staples can be had under $10.
This gun is useless it staples too tight you have to be able too move the wire, I worked with a electrician for a couple years and we use to do this with a hammer and staple and he always said make sure you can move the wire back and forth
I’m an electrician with a open cables license. Done more work with data fibre and av than I have electrical. I’ve got a few data endorsements also. Which is definitely why I wouldn’t use this for data. There are definitely a lot of people that shouldn’t be running the stuff.
@@AddictedtoTools You may be one of the few that realise that data, fibre, coax, etc, isn't just a piece of dumb copper from A to B and install accordingly.
Couldn’t agree more mate. There’s a heap to know and it’s a full on trade to do it proper. Most don’t see the more in-depth side, they’re just seeing a cat5 cable thrown through a ceiling and fit off for a phone.
I have had mine for a few weeks now and absolutely love it. Made working in roof spaces so much easier.
I could imagine it being easier in those spaces for sure. Cheers for the feedback Sando👍
@AddictedtoTools how does it compare to the DeWalt?
From other vids, it staples too loose. I have dozens of dewalt tools, but I run milwaukee nail guns with an adaptor and dewalt battery. Same for track saw. Certain things suck on each platform. M12 is the winner for this IF you need it (and I do not).
I'm loving this. I just picked one up a new one on ebay for a good deal. I just fired a few staples into some old 1940 beams to secure some NM cable . It worked great!
for the coax you might be able to put a few layers of tape over the depth guide if you were running a whole lot so it doesnt fire as deep, or in a pinch poke the end of your screwdriver alongside the cable and fire the gun over that so it cant crush it.
Love seeing how things are done in other places other than here in the us- I have mine and love it for hvac thermostat wires and such cheers!
Same here. Always interesting to see how it differs👍
Bought one yesterday. Absolutely saving my wrists
Definitely gona get my hands on one will make clipping cables a hell of a lot easier. The company I work for already has 3 and yes apprentices will put the staples through cable one of ours has already done it twice.
Damn. Might need some extra training😂
I have had the DeWalt one for about a month and its works a treat for me as an IT Admin doing data cables for security cameras. Using it with the powerstack battery and so far gone through 1500 staples without needing to recharge. Im on the north side of brissy so let me know if you wanna borrow it for a comparison? Great review in experienced hands with real world situations.
Oooohhh Iv got mine arriving to site tomorrow can’t wait 😛
Such an incredible tool! I think if they made a different staple for coax or data that could be an option? Maybe something with a semicircle so there's no tension on the physical cable maybe?
I love mine. They are great!
For Cat6 and coax I plan on stapelling horizontally then putting cable ties through the staple and around the cables.
Good idea. I had a thought of putting velcro or cable tie around it
If you were going to do that why wouldn't you just use normal m12 stapler with depth wound back? Alot cheaper staple
Oh yea, using them as clips would be pretty smart
I really can’t see how this is faster than a hammer and staples. Infinite adjustability and easier to carry.
Hey great review, I’ve used mine pretty consistently for the last month and no complaints. I’ve used u watt master unpowered one for years and the clien tools for a while as well and the Milwaukee gun has been a game changer! So fast and even though kilos seem pricy it works out be cheaper then other clips I’ve used. I used my 3amp battery and have got about 2400 clips out of one chard.
Cheers for the feedback kelvin. Definitely seems like a game changer. 👍
Good review mate. I like that you did different cables and timber
Looks like it could be good. Staple price can be reflected in time saved so not an issue really. Definitely should wait for the 2nd revision
have to agree, would like to see a depth stop for data work, with that im sold
Great presentation. Thanks.👍
I love mine! It makes you more efficient. Staple prices would make it a deal breaker for me if I was down unda... That's like equivalent $50+usd per box
It’s definitely pricey. I wish they could bring down that price.
Thank you! That’s a lot more than I expected. I’ll give it shot here in Texas.
No worries mate. Glad it helped. Let me know how you go with it 👍
I feel like this would be handy in some hard situations, but not a replacement to the old nail and clip during a rough in
Well I have the time for standard clips but I’m lazy, I might go buy one.
I would love to see something for the coax/data though, maybe I can 3d a spacer to clip on 🤔
That stapler would go so hard on those awkward roof space cashies!
Hmm goes alright, would be interested in a follow up on if it's cost effective with time vs hammer and clips
cant wait to get mine. very informative video. wonder how it goes through knotted wood where you would typically avoid stapling with a hammer.
M12 seems to have impressive power and performance. The lack of any battery level indicator has always prevented me from switching though.
I thought there was no indicator too when I first started using some m12 tools. The battery level indicator is on every m12 tool itself not the m12 battery. It’s three small led lights usually near where the battery attached to the tool.
@@CahillGolf only then you have to plug batteries into tools just to check power level.
You can use dewalt staples in it too
I think a generic depth adjustment could be ok, but not a categorical/qualitative one. RG6 "setting" on hardwood vs pine will give completely different results. It'd have to be more similar to a standard nailer and you give it a test with some scrap before starting a run. Once you get a feel for it you may know that RG6 on hardwood is "3" but on pine it's "1".
In 'merica we call them attics or crawl spaces. However, "in the ceiling" makes perfect sense too. Can we also say "in the roof" (as opposed to "on the roof") ?
you got it
We have a couple of the dewalt cable staplers at work. I find them a pain to use when trying to staple multiple switch wires at once as the enganment thingo is fairly narrow, the milwaukee one looks like it covers a much wider area.
I might buy one if it ever goes on sale
I wish I'd waited. when I bought my dewalt cable stapler it was only because milwaukee didn't have one. didn't know they were right around the corner.
don't get me wrong, the dewalt is awesome, and their tools usually are. but their customer service is rubbish so I've made the switch to red tools.
anyway...rant aside it looks like a good bit of kit
Coax really needs a different *shape* staple, probably best done by hand. Also, all but obsolete now.
Ditto cat6/etc ethernet cable, special clip, or as you said special retention, method.
As an upholsterer when firing staples into a fragile medium (or wanting a temporary fixing), we fire the gun on an angle. Would that work for you guys?
Interesting. Does that make go in shallow? I’ll have to try it out. Cheers Patrick
I’ve had mine for about a month now. It’s unreal into pine. Unfortunately I find it useless into hardwood, especially in old houses. The staples deform and buckle straight away if you tap them with a hammer.
Have to pull out the hammer and clips for hardwood especially if it visible. 👎
If the staples were cheaper absolutely, but $50 for 600 is a bit steep
Where are you located, I get 600 staples for half that
600 box for $20 in Canada
Australia, we call the tradie tax here. Anything to do with tools is more than double what is in the USA/Canada
It's 50 for 1800?
Mine doesn’t staple as hard as I expected I can still slide a 14/2 out without trying. Is there any adjustment i can make?
Got a question. Is this better than dewalt one? I have dewalt one and it's not good. If it does clip the cable perfectly i probably buy it. I just need a honest feedback please
Hey, I haven’t used the dewalt yet. I am wanting to compare them in the future. Im also going to try the new high output m12 batteries and see if it goes better on hard wood. Otherwise i was impressed with this. If you only deal with very hard wood. I would avoid it.
How's she go with orange circ? I'm roughin in lots of 3 phase 4mm orange circ and data.
Whats the best way if stapling on a steel frame house? Any recommendations?
I wonder how this holds up when used under a dusty house. I suspect grit will cause jams etc. I think I'll give it a skip.
Definitely a good point. Could definitely give that a go
@@AddictedtoTools Please do bro, that would be sensational. I often run new circuits under old houses, and being a tight spot, I tend to drag a hammer and bucket of clips through the soil when moving around.
One problem is if you want to use an existing cable in a wall as a draw wire you can’t if the cable is clipped with these clips.
Why clip them in the wall?
@@T3MPclan some people do at rough in so it doesn't flap around or get moved, potentially getting kinked or damaged by the plasterers
I can fit 4x 2.5mm
I want it
How to avail sir?
Would it fire into an engineering brick? Aka breeze block
I’ll give it a go.
@@AddictedtoTools this is make or break for me, do a short on it if you get time please 🙏
It’s not made for it but I have fired a couple of shots into the mortar of brings and it’s held alright
And why is a problem if you can pull it out?? 😂 that make it easier to fix or add wires in the future
It’s not always a problem but many people asked about it.
Dude I have to stop watching your videos man, my wife is going to divorce me for you influencing me to buy another beautiful tool
Never seen an aussie even clip any wire🤣
I was working with a trade qualified Australian sparky he couldn't even wire a two way switch
@@driftpig2462 So funny and fairly true. I can but most I know can't.
This tool is rubbish, it really is just a stapler and not a very good one. The Dewalt isn't much better but is more powerful. The Dewalt seems to have never ending battery life on their stapler and has No problem at all driving same depth into Hardwood. But apart from that, they both are very low grade oversize junk. We did have some English made battery wire tackers from some years ago that fired different sized plastic shrouded wire staples that worked really well but the batteries weren't great. All you would have had to do was adapt a Dewalt battery to them and they would have been the Ducks Nuts. But these two don't even come close except as I said earlier the Dewalt Battery Life and More Guts than the Milwaukee. I guess I am still waiting for someone to actually make one that was designed by a user.
I can't justify the price when an Arrow t25 stapler is only ~$50, and I can get into a lot tighter places with it and a pack of 1000 staples can be had under $10.
This gun is useless it staples too tight you have to be able too move the wire, I worked with a electrician for a couple years and we use to do this with a hammer and staple and he always said make sure you can move the wire back and forth
Tradies installing data and AV gear. We make a nice living from fixing their hamfisted approach and "she'll be roight" attitude.
I’m an electrician with a open cables license. Done more work with data fibre and av than I have electrical. I’ve got a few data endorsements also. Which is definitely why I wouldn’t use this for data. There are definitely a lot of people that shouldn’t be running the stuff.
@@AddictedtoTools You may be one of the few that realise that data, fibre, coax, etc, isn't just a piece of dumb copper from A to B and install accordingly.
Couldn’t agree more mate. There’s a heap to know and it’s a full on trade to do it proper. Most don’t see the more in-depth side, they’re just seeing a cat5 cable thrown through a ceiling and fit off for a phone.