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    Today's Pokemon Direct revealed Pokemon Legends Z-A which I'm sure we'll all call Pokemon Legends ZA. But there's some confusion about the chosen style of the reveal trailer, and what it implies. Is it a hologram? showing the future of Lumiose City in Kalos? or is it a stylized animated blueprint and it's based in the past? Like when Paris did their own MASSIVE urban redevelopment plan! Let's discuss and then conclude that it's too early to really know for sure. :)
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  • @Gnoggin
    @Gnoggin  2 месяца назад +506

    I honestly dont know which option sounds cooler. Fingers crossed its coming out NEXT year to be a Switch 2 launch title.
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    • @NerdByAnyOtherName
      @NerdByAnyOtherName 2 месяца назад +14

      Did you miss the end of the trailer? The final title card says it is coming out in 2025.

    • @MrCat1151
      @MrCat1151 2 месяца назад +19

      If I have to get a brand new device just to play a new game that’s just annoying I’m hoping for a switch release and not a brand new device

    • @redschafer7804
      @redschafer7804 2 месяца назад +7

      do you think we might finally get az's floette in this game

    • @robertfaucher3750
      @robertfaucher3750 2 месяца назад +1

      Yo talk about how LT Surge likely served in the Gulf War? Considering the time period red and blue came out and Japan sent troops to the Gulf War.

    • @clarkside4493
      @clarkside4493 2 месяца назад +3

      Apparently the game takes place entirely in the city.
      Edit: Ah, you know. Nevermind.

  • @goudendynamiethd2117
    @goudendynamiethd2117 2 месяца назад +1728

    I noticed something, The talonflame at the beginning is a fletchling at the end. The title is Z-A, not A-Z. The Z looks modern while the A looks like a leaf. So we might start off in modern Kalos and then go back to old Kalos, before the renovation.

    • @Conorator
      @Conorator 2 месяца назад +208

      The Z looks like Zygarde and the A looks like the ultimate weapon.

    • @zebjensen4251
      @zebjensen4251 2 месяца назад +83

      So link between worlds or ocarina of time then. That would be interesting

    • @anny8720
      @anny8720 2 месяца назад +33

      ⁠@@Conorator I don't see why it can't be both

    • @kb_diff638
      @kb_diff638 2 месяца назад +71

      @@ConoratorI remember the ultimate weapon is what caused mega evolution or something. Like it created 2 universes where one has mega and one doesn’t. And there was a theory that mega and past paradox Pokémon is related in some way, supported by mega salamence and roaring moon having relatively similar designs. Megas are maybe the past forms of Pokémon being brought back or something. So it could be A(the ultimate weapons) causing something to do with the past.

    • @Conorator
      @Conorator 2 месяца назад +20

      @@kb_diff638 I wouldn't say that's a maybe. It's already been confirmed with the dex entry for Mega Aerodactyl.

  • @LDtheGreatandPowerfulYoutubing
    @LDtheGreatandPowerfulYoutubing 2 месяца назад +278

    A little detail to add about the "an ending into a new beginning" i noticed that we follow a Talonflame for a real short moment but a Fletchling flys over the city in the end

    • @pedrofontan5462
      @pedrofontan5462 2 месяца назад +35

      But good spot actually could actually be a super nice subtle hint about the front to back idea

    • @Ebola-Jones
      @Ebola-Jones 2 месяца назад +1

      A phoenix-esque theme

  • @siraaron4462
    @siraaron4462 2 месяца назад +394

    This game is being made by GameFreaks secondary team who worked on B2W2, ORAS, USUM, LGPE, and Legends Arceus, with the last 3 coming out less than 5 years apart . When this game comes out it will have been almost 4 years since legends Arceus wrapped up development - making it the longest development time for a pokemon game in close to a decade. Given the B-team's track record I think it's fair to say this game has a shot at being beautiful..

    • @zsigmondfeher4624
      @zsigmondfeher4624 2 месяца назад +19

      Lets pray

    • @zacktheprogamer7999
      @zacktheprogamer7999 2 месяца назад +8

      OH? I mean music slaps but what about gameplay replayability? I agree that legends arceus is amazing but it felt more like a tech demo of what is possible.

    • @AllanGuiHaya70
      @AllanGuiHaya70 2 месяца назад +17

      Wait that's a REALLY GOOD track record, I wasn't really sure about this game but now I'm HYPED UP BABYYY!!!! (Also it got 2/4 games that I played legally-ORAS and USUM- so that's gotta be something)

    • @LikanMX
      @LikanMX 2 месяца назад +7

      @@zacktheprogamer7999well maybe it was the tech demo for this game. They saw that it was liked and agreed to go full on with this.

    • @Infinitystar225
      @Infinitystar225 2 месяца назад +6

      ​@zacktheprogamer7999 I have put over 200 hours into PLA, there is plenty of replayability.

  • @donkyman1000
    @donkyman1000 2 месяца назад +274

    Hello, I’m a game dev (not for Nintendo just in general). So whole buildings don’t have to be actually rendered as a whole with open world games, that would take up a significant amount of processing power for any console . There’s many ways to go about it. But some of the tricks we use in the industry can be:
    -having a cone of vision, where only the cone of vision that you’re seeing is being rendered, this has been used in games like GTA.
    -In most games we also have higher and lower poly models, the closer you get the higher poly it gets, the further the lower poly, sometimes even being reduced down to a plane.
    -Lastly another method I can think of is offloading certain faces of the model that are not in view, so like the back of a building can be offloaded until you can see it. This is obviously not every method, and these methods also have their limits.
    Pokemon has used these methods in some sense, but I won’t speak on their success at doing so.

    • @reqz16
      @reqz16 2 месяца назад +15

      -In most games we also have higher and lower poly models, the closer you get the higher poly it gets, the further the lower poly, sometimes even being reduced down to a plane.
      yeah.. nintendo is using this model all the time... besides the higher part :D

    • @skyfever111
      @skyfever111 2 месяца назад +5

      just learn from mihoyo

    • @hilmanaar7401
      @hilmanaar7401 2 месяца назад +6

      ​@@reqz16 thats more of a pokemon problem specifically😅

  • @kawnir42
    @kawnir42 2 месяца назад +409

    I don't think I'm seeing enough people talking about the fact that Z-A is clearly something to do with Az, from X and Y. We really didn't learn a lot about him, and a legends game would be PERFECT for that.

    • @cocolanfofolan2508
      @cocolanfofolan2508 2 месяца назад +25

      I agree, it's clearly something with him.

    • @Hyatice
      @Hyatice 2 месяца назад +16

      I'm sure this got brought up but the hexagons in the icon are definitely related to Zygarde too :D

    • @RedRaikou
      @RedRaikou 2 месяца назад +9

      But his story and the war happened 3 thousand years ago, and I don't think anything exciting happened around him ever since, no way this game will be set 3 thousand years ago,
      like I said in my comment:
      A game centered around the time of AZ and the war would be great but that was 3 THOUSAND years ago, long before pokeballs were made and I don't see them making a game where we play as a human and don't use pokeballs.

    • @cocolanfofolan2508
      @cocolanfofolan2508 2 месяца назад +16

      @@RedRaikou well legends arceus had us travel back im time from the future. Could be similar. They can make it work.

    • @trevorpacelli8056
      @trevorpacelli8056 2 месяца назад +4

      Also, it connects with SV because AZ can stand for Area Zero.

  • @TimdeF
    @TimdeF 2 месяца назад +360

    Never before has the reaction image of AZ saying it's been 3000 years been so appropriate

  • @FanOfMostEverything
    @FanOfMostEverything 2 месяца назад +60

    "Minus the natives."
    I mean, we never heard about the Diamond or Pearl clans in modern-day Sinnoh...

    • @sana-helwa-ya-jamil
      @sana-helwa-ya-jamil 2 месяца назад +7

      Weıı the diamond and pearl clans weren't even native to hisui, the old verses mentioned that fact

  • @wyndhamfreeman1489
    @wyndhamfreeman1489 2 месяца назад +184

    THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING!!! As a history nerd, I'm so excited for the Haussmannian Pokemon game! Lumiose is by far my favorite city in Pokemon because it is the only city that really feels like a fully-fledged city. Seeing medieval style Lumiose turn into modern Lumiose would be awesome! And it would give opportunities for the sewer system, maybe even expansion on the power plant area. I'm so hyped!

    • @SkatemeRockme
      @SkatemeRockme 2 месяца назад +6

      Like Castelia city with the sewers in black and white, that city did feel like a city too with the people passing by and the sewers added on it, but yeah we could use a city with much more interesting things and places to explore.

    • @noahberan6498
      @noahberan6498 2 месяца назад +5

      I think Hau'oli was a great representation of Honolulu

    • @lucashen9686
      @lucashen9686 2 месяца назад

      You people are so stupid, it's not gonna be based on Hausmann, it's not gonna be hundreds of years ago. Even the sketches show a woman in a modern trainer outfit.
      This will be in modern times and most likely set after XY.

  • @samm425
    @samm425 2 месяца назад +1079

    I have a theory that the name Z-A is a reference to the game being "backwards" (the alphabet normally is A-Z, but is Z-A), the game will start at the future, and go back to the past as the game advance, or maybe you'll alternate between future and past, tying to the time travel and paradox theme of S/V

    • @diseasedwombat5611
      @diseasedwombat5611 2 месяца назад

      Those silly Fr*nch “people,” the alphabet doesn’t go from Z-A!

    • @meatkirbo
      @meatkirbo 2 месяца назад +151

      Depending on how far back it goes, the ZA could also be a reference to AZ, and this cold potentially be the story of his ultimate weapon and the devastation it caused

    • @kkstar1718
      @kkstar1718 2 месяца назад +51

      Alternating between past and future could be interesting, and if it does happen, I imagine that you'll be playing the descendant in the future and the ancestor in the past. With you as the descendant learning more about your ancestor, which could possibly tie into learning about potential hidden places that hadn't been discovered in a long time.

    • @Xerarchthegoat
      @Xerarchthegoat 2 месяца назад +15

      It could also imply the end and the beginning like a post-war setting.

    • @samm425
      @samm425 2 месяца назад +21

      @@meatkirbo that's obvious, but I think that what we should be focusing more is, if so, why they named Z-A, instead of AZ? And why add the "-" between them? These two seem like the weirdest choices, thus the most significant ones, and more vital to decipher the game

  • @TheRibottoStudios
    @TheRibottoStudios 2 месяца назад +1694

    Literally, the entire Fandom was that one guy in ATLA who was foaming at the mouth, and I'm here for it.

    • @KJBobbyBillyjo
      @KJBobbyBillyjo 2 месяца назад +103

      We were all really excited for Gholdengo in Pokemon Cafe 😊

    • @rainbow_vader
      @rainbow_vader 2 месяца назад +16

      Omg hoops reaction was legendary 😂😂😂

    • @captainb4
      @captainb4 2 месяца назад +6

      ATLA?

    • @milestailsprowerarchiecomi1835
      @milestailsprowerarchiecomi1835 2 месяца назад +20

      @@captainb4 it stands for: Avatar The Last Airbender

    • @captainb4
      @captainb4 2 месяца назад

      ​@@milestailsprowerarchiecomi1835thanks. I knew it Seemeilen familiar

  • @Red_AM
    @Red_AM 2 месяца назад +171

    This is why you're one of my favorite youtubers. It's insane how fast you put out such a incredibly detailed video in such a short time. Nothing you mention feels like a stretch and I learn so many new things. You're the best, Lockstin.

  • @Matthew_Murray
    @Matthew_Murray 2 месяца назад +35

    Having everything take place in Lumiose City makes me wonder if Game Freak took a look at the issues of Scarlet and Violet’s large empty over worlds and decided to use Legends Z-A to do the opposite and create a more tightly focused environment.

    • @Ebola-Jones
      @Ebola-Jones 2 месяца назад +4

      My thoughts exactly, which makes me wonder how they are going to implement wild Pokemon encounters entirely within the city

  • @justinn8541
    @justinn8541 2 месяца назад +911

    We finally have Pokemon Z, after all these years.

    • @justinjyeung
      @justinjyeung 2 месяца назад +40

      The 2025 release would also mark 10 years since when we thought we'd get Pokemon Z lol (XY in 2013, ORAS in 2014, Z in 2015?)

    • @McJethroPovTee
      @McJethroPovTee 2 месяца назад +9

      Now we just need delta emerald

    • @danielpruitt8550
      @danielpruitt8550 2 месяца назад +23

      @@justinjyeung It's sort of poetic to see Pokemon Z all this time later.

    • @logancole6000
      @logancole6000 2 месяца назад +5

      The humans shown in the background are wearing very modern clothes like baseball caps and stuff.

    • @c0mpu73rguy
      @c0mpu73rguy 2 месяца назад

      You don’t and you never will, cope.

  • @hlewis5217
    @hlewis5217 2 месяца назад +368

    Mega Evolution can finally do some justice to Flygon, Milotic and Froslass. Hoping the Kalos natives get one too; Florges, Aegislash, Goodra, Dragalge, Clawitzer, and of course the starters.

    • @CoffeeFlavoredMilk
      @CoffeeFlavoredMilk 2 месяца назад +21

      I do wonder if there will both be new Megas as well as new regional variants. Definitely not impossible for super forms and regional variants to co-exist if SwSh is anything to go by.

    • @hlewis5217
      @hlewis5217 2 месяца назад +7

      @@CoffeeFlavoredMilk imagine a new regional variant that gets a new evolution then mega on top of that. Imagine Ledian/Sunflora evolve one more time then the new evo mega evolves. Sign me up lol!

    • @ariantotan-nz5zm
      @ariantotan-nz5zm 2 месяца назад +6

      I hope xerneas has past form,and yveltal has modern form then zygarde have 20%,30%,40%,60%,70%,80% and 90% then AZ Floette is battle bond Floette like Ash Greninja

    • @babyblue9782
      @babyblue9782 2 месяца назад +1

      What about nidoking

    • @thehauntedtree
      @thehauntedtree 2 месяца назад +2

      It just sucks that we probably won’t be able to battle each other with them

  • @chrishall5570
    @chrishall5570 2 месяца назад +50

    I 100% agree that the whole city that we are taken through is supposed to be a drawling of the plans made fancier. When I first was watching it it reminded me greatly of an AutoCAD drawing that your zooming in and out of.

  • @AnimeMPKMNmaster430
    @AnimeMPKMNmaster430 2 месяца назад +75

    I wonder if this game will go into more detail about AZ & his Floette? I would love for more backstory & lore about him!

    • @LucarioDoT
      @LucarioDoT 2 месяца назад +1

      I mean, that would make sense

  • @epicbruhmoment6985
    @epicbruhmoment6985 2 месяца назад +66

    I can already see a pretty obvious structure with the 5 segments of the city built arouns whatever those circles are. I imagine you complete a story segment in each area and everytime you finish a milestone more of the lumiose tower gets built.

  • @Alex_Munoz5
    @Alex_Munoz5 2 месяца назад +42

    Its surprising. Everyone was hinting at some kind of "Legends Celebi", and they come with pokemon Z after all these years. Im so happy, I love kalos

    • @theJennicat
      @theJennicat 2 месяца назад

      I mean that's what people were wanting to see a lot of the lore stuff in paldea points towards kalos being revisited like with the great crater the ruin pokémon and AZ's floette

    • @Alex_Munoz5
      @Alex_Munoz5 2 месяца назад

      @@theJennicat Yeah. Lets Hope the Game comes in a good technichal state. Its sad the last Legends game had bad graphics and was so limited. After sv I hope we get games with more quality, and Legends has great potential.

  • @fatalisblack7213
    @fatalisblack7213 2 месяца назад +62

    I wonder if we'll be able to explore Kalos' version of the Paris catacombs. What if, during the reconstruction, they opened up the catacombs of the old city, releasing hords of wild Pokémon, including those long though to have gone extinct (regional variants/fakes).

    • @zeoplayz8021
      @zeoplayz8021 2 месяца назад +3

      Yo wtf thats actally a really cool idea to implement kalos variants of pokemon (if the map was confined to a large, more defined lumiose city)

    • @EuroMIX2
      @EuroMIX2 2 месяца назад +4

      As Above, So Pokélow.

    • @eur0be4t3r
      @eur0be4t3r Месяц назад +1

      Cofagrigus and Spiritomb could def have forms based on the catacombs

    • @marlaneperkins8175
      @marlaneperkins8175 Месяц назад

      I mean, Zygarde is found underground in both XY and SM.

  • @vantaplat7411
    @vantaplat7411 2 месяца назад +39

    2:00 The Ainu did not call Hokkaido Ezo as far as im aware, Ezo was the name for Hokkaido and Karafuto/Sakhalin by the Japanese before it was called Hokkaido. The Ainu called it something like Ainumosir.

  • @NOMASTER1021
    @NOMASTER1021 2 месяца назад +19

    The flickering lights could be a reference or nod to the old-fashioned "horse in motion" project showing how the pictures are coming to life as the animation begins

  • @rueblie2627
    @rueblie2627 2 месяца назад +28

    I’m fairly sure this game is actually set around 1870, the tail end of the Haussmann redevelopment of Paris. Notably this is also the end of the reign of Napoleon III, the final emperor of France.
    Having a story about the final king of Kalos would be an interesting way to take it

    • @theobuniel9643
      @theobuniel9643 2 месяца назад +7

      So.... does that mean we're gonna get a Lumiose Commune?

    • @theJennicat
      @theJennicat 2 месяца назад +1

      Wait so like latander ancestor in coming?!?!

    • @theJennicat
      @theJennicat 2 месяца назад +1

      He totally has an empoleon

  • @EcnavMC
    @EcnavMC 2 месяца назад +19

    I’ve seen a lot of people saying the game will be bad because it takes place entirely in the city… and I can just *tell* that they’ve never been in a big city before.

    • @marlaneperkins8175
      @marlaneperkins8175 Месяц назад +2

      It also tells that those people have never played a game that takes place in one city. Because there a quiet a few good games that take place in one city.

    • @GrimReaper_TTV
      @GrimReaper_TTV Месяц назад

      @@marlaneperkins8175yes but this is a pokemon game literally a game that encourages exploring open areas for stuff the game will literally flop if it’s only in lumiose a lot of people have said that’s a big turn off for them so if that’s the route they go this game will be the least selling game they ever made

  • @outrageouslamp4539
    @outrageouslamp4539 2 месяца назад +89

    I think if like Hisui they give us a new set of starters it is very likely to be Snivy, Piplup and Torchic. Serperior and Empoleon are already explicitly French. The national bird of France is the rooster so Blaziken would fit well. (plus a trailer for indigo disk did show all the hisuian starters with these 3 starters so it could have been a hint).

    • @anghainguyen9951
      @anghainguyen9951 2 месяца назад +3

      So Kalos starter got fuckup again lol

    • @shiruotakuno28
      @shiruotakuno28 2 месяца назад +13

      Really nice theory but I just want the Kalos starters to have mega forms this time

    • @outrageouslamp4539
      @outrageouslamp4539 2 месяца назад +10

      @@shiruotakuno28 I think they still have a good chance of getting them.

    • @tlst94
      @tlst94 2 месяца назад

      @@anghainguyen9951 Why'd that comment sound so hilarious? lol

    • @zajinramirez2780
      @zajinramirez2780 2 месяца назад +12

      ​@anghainguyen9951 How?
      The last legends game,we didn't receive the sinnoh starters and instead got different ones, so this might also be the case
      It's actually better they're not starter since you could use all now

  • @Storm-crow13
    @Storm-crow13 2 месяца назад +19

    Blueprints were on white paper dipped in light sensitive pigment. So when the diagram was put on top and exposed to sunlight most of the white paper would turn blue and the sections covered by the lines would stay white. They would wash out the uncured pigment so it wouldn’t turn pure blue next time it was put into the sun

  • @dillydally6132
    @dillydally6132 2 месяца назад +21

    The A is also the Greek symbol for lambda, two meanings. 1st means speech. Second means ratio as comparison to single unitary quantity.

  • @cold-bloodedbeats4139
    @cold-bloodedbeats4139 2 месяца назад +12

    I feel like the whole hologram part of the trailer was just kind of alluding to how Lumiose City currently is in the present. IIRC, the confidential papers did say this was a project to have people and Pokémon co-exist together, so I assume this project succeeded. I kinda hope now that Lumiose will slowly be built more and more as the story progresses and you make an effort to develop the city and assist the new residents

  • @Moon-Vixen
    @Moon-Vixen 2 месяца назад +11

    I also think pretty strongly it's referring to the redevelopment of Paris as that makes the most sense, but I also want to point out that in the sketch, there's a lady in a baseball hat. they were invented in 1860 but were used almost exclusively by and for baseball players and fans, until the 1960s when they became popular mainstream fashion. and as well, I personally got a sort of noire vibe from the papers. I know it's the plans and sketches for the town's blueprints, but they still kinda look like case files too, so I get the feeling it could be a detective noir plot where we're employed by a new looker-type character to go around the city (and it be the reason we don't LEAVE the city ever) solving mysteries until we uncover some big secret in the underbelly of the city using the legendaries.

    • @anny8720
      @anny8720 2 месяца назад +1

      All of the people in the blueprint have modern clothing and the Japanese tagline says something about a dream of peaceful cohabitation between humans and pokemon, so I think it's just representing the architect's vision of modern day xy lumiose city. Still totally possible to have looker like side quests! He could be a faller again or Emma carrying his legacy

    • @Moon-Vixen
      @Moon-Vixen 2 месяца назад +1

      @@anny8720 well, "modern" is subjective, and none of the clothes we see are so modern that they're unheard of in the 1860s to 1960s, neither of which I'd consider modern. they're just not like, regency garb and therefor aren't overtly obvious as the past. to me, we don't have to be in French Court in a big poofy dress and tall powdered wig for it to be the past, but I'm sure some would consider a game set in the 60s (living memory) to be a modern game.
      and as for that tagline, that just makes me feel like it's that much older, as PLA represents the colonization of Ezo when it became Hokkaido in 1869, and people were terrified of pokemon and did their best to avoid them, with very few managing to control one or two. to dream of a peaceful cohabitation between humans and pokemon means that fear is still fairly common, which I don't think it would be by the 1960s when baseball hats became common fashion. but it would still be common that far across the world in 1853-1870 when Paris was rebuilt, and right smack in there is when baseball hats were invented, and the blazer (the jackets we see most of them wearing) was invented in 1837. I think the kid in the shot with the ball cap is a duffle coat which was invented the 1850s, but it could also be a peacoat invented in the 1800s. most of the rest of them are ether too far away or too nondescript to be identifiable, at least for me. but nothing screams modern or future to me imo.
      and this being a rebuilding of Paris and Paris having an actual rebuild so that people could live safe and healthy lives is a little too obvious to me. I really can't imagine them picking Paris for this kind of plot but making it a totally different way in the future redesign that....also looks basically the same as the original, just more detailed bc it's the only map and on a stronger console. it can still be a "modern interpretation of the future of Kalos" to them, but be the past for us.
      but if you can find something in that trailer that definitively dates it well past 1870 do let me know!

  • @Syiepherze
    @Syiepherze 2 месяца назад +16

    5:30 At first I kinda imagined the Diamond and Pearl clans were the Hisui equivalent of Ezo/Hokkaido's native Ainu.
    But I think the Celestica people are the most likely candidates
    Also, my current hc for the urban works group in Lumiose is that it's called the "Nova Project" or sth. Cuz supernovas, they can give rise to stars. The logo looks a bit like a bursting star?
    The sun is a star, and Team Flare is named after solar flares. A common theme of energy emissions..
    Also, "re-nova-tion" ;)

  • @LockytheLimeHare
    @LockytheLimeHare 2 месяца назад +78

    I hope you see this theory, but I know it's unlikely
    I think the redevelopment plan is set after the Kalos war. Where the region was building itself back up after the ultimate weapon. Maybe Zygarde is involved because the weapon used it back then. Zygarde agreed with attacking the humans, but didn't realize it was being used to attack Pokémon as well. When it did, it left into a cave as a punishment for itself. Thus years of imbalance in like- every Pokémon game, and it would help GameFreak make a retcon that makes sense on why Zygarde is in that cave in the earlier games.

    • @acoolgamez
      @acoolgamez 2 месяца назад +5

      before I read this comment I commented the exact same thing minus the part about punishment for itself lmao

    • @LockytheLimeHare
      @LockytheLimeHare 2 месяца назад +3

      @@acoolgamez oh damn

    • @davyt0247
      @davyt0247 2 месяца назад +3

      I think you’re right. We could very well be restoring Lumiose after the ancient weapon is fired the first time

    • @GrimReaper_TTV
      @GrimReaper_TTV Месяц назад +1

      @@davyt0247we kinda have to be bc the weapon is what created megas and megas are in the game so that kinda confirms we’re playing after the weapon was fired

  • @suspiciousshadeofgreen
    @suspiciousshadeofgreen 2 месяца назад +9

    When the pokemon company said the entire game would take place in lumiose, I think Lovkstin is right in thinking that the areas to catch wild pokemon in the game will be the outskirts of old lumiose which the city is trying to expand into

    • @GrimReaper_TTV
      @GrimReaper_TTV Месяц назад

      It wasn’t the pokemon company that said that it was Nintendo which don’t have any influence on the creation of the game

  • @curtailedbike4123
    @curtailedbike4123 2 месяца назад +9

    If they wanted they could also incorporate the Paris catacombs into the game as some sort of underground area, maybe that’s where you’ll catch pokemon not native to the city

    • @GrimReaper_TTV
      @GrimReaper_TTV Месяц назад

      There won’t be pokemon in the city the trailer tells us they wanna make it where pokemon and people can co exist in the city so there won’t be pokemon in the city when we play

  • @rameroli
    @rameroli 2 месяца назад +15

    "just a few years ago" - 2016.... That was... Almost 10 years ago

  • @budgetbugha31
    @budgetbugha31 2 месяца назад +9

    I think because of the Z through A it might be a dual story of half of the story in 1800s but because of some form of Pokémon logic you get transported to far in the future and get to see what you helped build.

    • @GrimReaper_TTV
      @GrimReaper_TTV Месяц назад

      Yeah no the trailer has told us it’s the urban redevelopment plan meaning it takes place only in the past

  • @beblazeblue93
    @beblazeblue93 2 месяца назад +7

    Based on the trailer, the likely construction of the lumiose we know over nature, and the fact of “whole game taking place in lumiose” from the Nintendo post I think we’ll get random encounters inside the town itself which is something I’ve wanted for a while.

    • @GrimReaper_TTV
      @GrimReaper_TTV Месяц назад

      Yeah people won’t like that bc then they can’t really create a team they put love into making and catching

  • @foxoninetails_
    @foxoninetails_ 2 месяца назад +5

    2:10 "Same thing as real history, at least the same idea - minus the natives, as always"
    Except that it was a fairly major part of PLA's story that the Diamond and Pearl clans were the native inhabitants of Hisui, and while their leaders were interested in brokering cooperation between their clans and the incoming Survey Corps., many of their members were strongly skeptical or outright against it, especially among the older generations... how is "the tension between natives and colonizers is a major plot point" an example of "minus the natives, as always"?

  • @Raptermonster24
    @Raptermonster24 2 месяца назад +6

    quote of the year "natives removed as always" sounds so funny yet upsetting at once

  • @ToawstTheToast
    @ToawstTheToast 2 месяца назад +6

    “Pokémon Legends Z-A is based…”
    Yeah, I sure hope it is.

  • @anonbefallen4807
    @anonbefallen4807 2 месяца назад +7

    I think the redevelopment plan is perhaps for the invention of pokeballs specifically. As the trailer showed, the blue prints seemed very pokemon accessible, with wide roads and canals for water types. Perhaps the ability to have pokemon as closer partners with pokeballs spurred the Lumiose city government to redesign and expand the city for its new purpose to suit both people and pokemon?

    • @GrimReaper_TTV
      @GrimReaper_TTV Месяц назад

      Urban redevelopment plan is for lumiose as the Paris the country that jalosnis based off of went through the same yeah redevelopment in the past

  • @pitchblack9053
    @pitchblack9053 2 месяца назад +20

    6:34
    That slight voice over edit caught me off guard lol

    • @iBlueBro
      @iBlueBro 2 месяца назад +1

      Smooth lol

  • @IronDino
    @IronDino 2 месяца назад +6

    13:05 "Today is the tomorrow of yesterday."

  • @draghettis6524
    @draghettis6524 2 месяца назад +13

    Also, about the rebuilding of Paris under Haussmann, it was, well, during the Second Empire.
    A major difference between medieval and Haussmannian Paris is the width of the streets.
    They were much narrower before, and that meant that during the revolutions that preceded, people could easily barricade them.
    Napoleon III did not like that, so, just in case a revolution formed under his reign, he made barricades impossible, or at least much harder to do.

  • @NexusUwU541
    @NexusUwU541 2 месяца назад

    Something about your video that really caught. My attention is about halfway through. I totally forgot we were talking about Pokémon and I thought I was watching a history of France video. Good job bro now I’m interested in the actual history of France. I really enjoy this kind of content on RUclips. Keep it up you got my sub

  • @Juniverse0
    @Juniverse0 2 месяца назад +20

    I‘d love a Legends game in a modern setting. I‘m also a fan of Solarpunk aesthetics, so I‘m kinda hoping we’re looking at the futuristic option, you described.
    It’s also kinda fitting how we‘re contemplating if this is gonna be past, or future-inspired, considering that’s what the theme of the last mainline-games was.

  • @QuantumWaltz
    @QuantumWaltz 2 месяца назад +6

    I'm just waiting for the Kalos equivalent of the Sinnoh Underground. That could certainly flesh out the city space more.
    not to mention make it heckin spooky
    in Paris, the dead outnumber the living 3:1, after all...

  • @spookykatelyn2161
    @spookykatelyn2161 2 месяца назад

    Awesome video lockstin, it gets me excited and hopeful for the legends ZA game. If anything i hope that its not normal pokemon gameplay in modern times with leqends logo on it. If anything i would rather be mainly in the past of kalos. Also i hope that the game isnt going to keep us completely in just lumios city. I would like to explore the entire region. I feel like pokemon was giving a hint that lumios city is going to feel bigger to explore. Because it doesn't make sense to have a pokemon legends game be in modern times. I can see a hint of time travel shenanigans happening as a possible part of the game. Also I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed the sketch of the buildings did not look modern or futuristic. I'm excited for the game.

  • @bensjammin9
    @bensjammin9 2 месяца назад +9

    I’m really confident it’s not taking place in the future. The trailer’s neon design to me just shows a blueprint come to life.

  • @VictiZee
    @VictiZee 2 месяца назад +5

    “Why are the French so good at removing the n?” Do you have something you want to say? 0:44

  • @SampleYT06
    @SampleYT06 2 месяца назад +4

    I think team flare would be villians trying to destroy plans since holograms are created by them
    Showing the city in holograms still convinces me

  • @mairain6443
    @mairain6443 2 месяца назад +2

    I am most excited for Furfrou.
    I have been waiting for its return as it never made the cut since "Dexit".
    And it looks like they might be adjusting the forms, as the Matron form we see in the trailer has a smaller "hat", more adjusted to the face shape.

  • @realrice8876
    @realrice8876 Месяц назад

    im taking a class in college about paris past and present and we learn about the history of the city and linking it to pokemon is so cool especially right now!!

  • @twilightblaze2052
    @twilightblaze2052 2 месяца назад +3

    I also immediately felt like this project would be set in the past because it looked like modern day Lumiose was being planned out in the trailer.

  • @nineCryptids
    @nineCryptids 2 месяца назад +3

    I feel like the Diamond and Pearl clans were basically the Pokémon version of the Ezo natives

  • @Purplechiby
    @Purplechiby 2 месяца назад

    Came here for some talking about the new pokemon game, didn't expect to be getting a history lesson along with it. Love it, subscribed.

  • @superparadox
    @superparadox 2 месяца назад +2

    i think it's surprising you didn't mention AZ or his war/weapon at all, since the A in the title slightly resembles the weapon. With what you mentioned about the paris agreement, the redevelopment in the 1800s, and the founding of paris it makes me think this is a time travel game which is very intriguing to me

  • @pokestyn
    @pokestyn 2 месяца назад +6

    0:11 that felt like a Scott the woz joke in the best way

    • @Kiirabu197
      @Kiirabu197 2 месяца назад +1

      thought so too, also the first second of the video-
      0:08 though

  • @dtoons1100
    @dtoons1100 2 месяца назад +3

    Will Lumiose city be accepting refugees from… uh… the Pokemon world equivalent from the middle east?

  • @reidwithoutacause
    @reidwithoutacause 2 месяца назад

    I haven’t been on your channel in years but seeing za made me think of the pokemon alchemy theories from back in the day. Cheers.

  • @brynt91
    @brynt91 2 месяца назад +2

    Over the past few games, Pokémon has done a lot of stuff dealing with past and future. I was thinking that one game was going to be more past focused with people talking about how things used to be (missing the good old days) and the other focusing on the future and people talking about what can/will be.
    I know they have already done this, but it feels like an ongoing motif in this current Pokémon era. I feel like the transition from a sketch diagram to a futuristic 3d neon/cyber punk diagram was very intentional and not just a blueprint. They are making the lines glow and showing the Pokémon being rendered.
    Also, if you look at the legends series as "a look at the past in order to make a better future," it makes even more sense

  • @Enjoysaeli
    @Enjoysaeli 2 месяца назад

    I'm near the end of Infinite Wealth, and trying to finish up the Sujimon story up now. Can't wait to see your video on it! That sounds so fun!!

  • @jbobadger
    @jbobadger 2 месяца назад

    your analysis of the blue hue and white line animation as a throw back to blue prints was very wow

  • @earlemental
    @earlemental 2 месяца назад

    Since I’ve sold my soul to the franchise at age 8 I’m always excited for any news! Legends Arceus was super fun can’t wait for this! Love your vids always a fun time and always gaining new perspectives! Also I may be late to the party, but woah cool tattoo!! Any chance we can get a tattoo tour?

  • @eri55
    @eri55 2 месяца назад

    This is exactly the kind of deep dive I needed thank you!

  •  2 месяца назад

    I loved all of these ideas about the new game!
    Fun fact, the layout of Paris and Lumiose city is called “Spoke and Wheel.”

  • @gabriellockwood2780
    @gabriellockwood2780 2 месяца назад +1

    Haussmann's *Redevelopment* of Paris
    1853 - 1870
    Spiritomb was sealed around 500~ years before Modern (2007~09) Sinnoh.
    Vessa/Spiritomb tells us the Seal was weakened after 200~ years during the Events of Legends: Arceus.

  • @lolialf
    @lolialf 2 месяца назад +1

    part of me, hope the giant meteor mega stone thingy will be a big part of the story
    XY just went: "look at this pretty stone"

  • @MaedayMisfit
    @MaedayMisfit 2 месяца назад

    When this trailer first came out, i really was thinking of this channel and how he usually researches things. Like, i looked up paris and its time periods and everything. Amd im glad im not the only one who was leaning hard into "oh yeah, this is the past". A lot of people I saw immidiatley jumping into the future camp. Either way, im just excited to go back to kalos!

  • @amandadaley4182
    @amandadaley4182 2 месяца назад +2

    About the pokeball development I don't think it would have taken too long to get to Kalos because the Professor in PLA was originally from Galar so once the pokeballs were developed, the design for them could have been sent quite quickly back to Galar and in turn Kalos could have heard about them as well. Just a thought.

  • @asterthehedgehog6861
    @asterthehedgehog6861 2 месяца назад

    The logo on the paperwork (the golden star with the circle), I think it’s some kind of successors of the Galaxy Expedition Team

  • @Greifchen
    @Greifchen 2 месяца назад

    I'd love to see them doing something with the A-Z stuff. You know, Pokémon wars with the giant weapon and all that

  • @gman4061
    @gman4061 2 месяца назад +3

    Maybe it's within the city in a physical sense (X,Y,Z) but we get temporal variation. Traveling forward and back in time between the modern and the past. The boss fight puzzle is like the end of that titanfal game.

  • @daniinkidar99
    @daniinkidar99 2 месяца назад +2

    What I came for : Pokemon Hype and Speculation
    What I got : History of France and "I Love Trees"!
    Great video tho

  • @LupusRexXIII
    @LupusRexXIII 2 месяца назад

    The moment I heard that Infinite Wealth had a Pokémon parody, part of me hoped you would cover it. I'm so hyped that you are

  • @CamKoudo
    @CamKoudo 2 месяца назад

    My gut feeling after seing the trailer immediately went to that same time period mentioned in the first half of the video 👌

  • @KaraKaotic
    @KaraKaotic 2 месяца назад

    i think the flickering is suppose to back like different drawn frames of animation. since it had that drawn look to it

  • @krisdreemurr3533
    @krisdreemurr3533 2 месяца назад +1

    0:00 *CHAOS!!!*

  • @hlewis5217
    @hlewis5217 2 месяца назад +2

    This means the rollerskates are likely making a comeback!! WOOOOOOOO

  • @jimmcknight13
    @jimmcknight13 2 месяца назад +6

    One thing I hear no one talking about is how you can't have something be a legend if it's in the future. The whole idea of a legend is a story in the past, a legend past down through generations not a tale in the future.

  • @oz598
    @oz598 2 месяца назад

    The reason I love this channel is it gives you history lessons while talking about pokemon. Keep it up!

  • @Fred247
    @Fred247 2 месяца назад

    A foot in both the future and past like s&v, with events effecting each other would be cool. Also hoping answering questions left from Arceus.

  • @BberryBberrydude
    @BberryBberrydude 2 месяца назад +1

    I still think the game is going to take place in modern day but there's some technology shenanigans that enable us to view Lumiose City across time periods.
    Note there was that yellow symbol that appeared in the trailer that wasn't commented on. My guess is that it's the symbol for the new iteration of Team Flare, kinda like PLA's Galactic Expedition Team. I think they're being employed to help the redevelopment of Lumiose City as punishment for their misdeeds in XY (and with Malva on the Elite Four, I think there's the authority to force them to do that). And Team Flare has already developed some crazy tech in Lumiose City before (remember the Expansion Suit?). So Team Flare is making some VR tech that can view the past and future of Lumiose and potentially bring Pokemon across the time barrier via that tech. This will also enable how we'll get a good diverse Pokedex in PLZA when it's based in one city-- some Pokemon come from time periods where Lumiose's environment was more suitable for that (eg: modern era has Furfrou, AZ's war has Aegislash, etc.). So I think time periods work like the five regions of Hisui with modern day Lumiose City being a central hub like Jubilife Village was.
    Also, what's the A in Pokemon Legends Z-A? Could it be Alpha? It's a Legends game, alpha Pokemon can come back. When have we seen the term alpha before? Alpha Sapphire, Gen 6.
    So that's my theory for now. PL:ZA is going to be about us discovering the link between alpha Pokemon and Mega evolutions. My claim is that mega stones only react to certain Pokemon because it needs to be a pokemon that retained some alpha energy into the modern day, and the mega stones basically tame alpha Pokemon and turn them into mega Pokemon.
    And maybe the redevelopment of Lumiose City is just the infrastructure for the 2024 Kalos Olympics lol (okay this last one was a joke, but until proven otherwise I really believe my other theories)

  • @dresdenlancer9012
    @dresdenlancer9012 2 месяца назад

    YOURE TOO FAST WITH THIS! My buddy and I were going to talk theory on our podcast, but you said our big points, lol. Bringing up the Z to A bit about new beginnings and Zygarde unhappiness with the era... love your videos. I'll be sure to give you a shout out (to our 10 person audience) when we bring it up.

  • @Kinowolf
    @Kinowolf 2 месяца назад

    The neon/light motif might also just be a way of showing that this is an electric/lit city, which was a big part of the Lumiose vibe. Tapping into that idea of 19th century Paris as the city of lights because it was so quickly and extensively modernized (by the standards of the time).

  • @raptorskilltor4554
    @raptorskilltor4554 2 месяца назад

    There was a hint of a past and future concept in the painting from aa mansion in xy

  • @TheJwaterworks
    @TheJwaterworks 2 месяца назад

    Still not fully convinced about it being in the past.
    Will wait for more official news before anything.
    Could be fun to make some speculative starters when we get news

  • @SR_Helios
    @SR_Helios 2 месяца назад +1

    Traveling between past and future would be kinda fun

  • @zeitGGeist
    @zeitGGeist 2 месяца назад +1

    Feels like 2016 again with a Lockstin video about pokemon Z theories.

  • @Sjackson2369
    @Sjackson2369 2 месяца назад +2

    I’m sorry but I’m going to need a short or a gif of that calculator bit

  • @drackocampusanolara4899
    @drackocampusanolara4899 2 месяца назад +8

    Kalos has a 3000 years old life-absorbing laser buried under it.
    Holograms in the 1800's isn't that crazy.

  • @Alexander17503
    @Alexander17503 2 месяца назад

    9:00 Pure musical flow :catJam:

  • @lordcorporal4247
    @lordcorporal4247 2 месяца назад

    Bro thank you! Every poke tuber was like future??? I’m like bro it’s a legends game, it says urban redevelopment and kalos is eiffal tower so it just plain old makes sense that they are building the city/eiffel tower why on earth would you guess future when this is just sitting on your lap. You communicated everything perfectly man great video

  • @Gzilla313
    @Gzilla313 2 месяца назад +2

    Seems like this game is going to be open area, like PL:A, where each area is a pie slice of the city with a Mega Pokémon as guardian in each area.

  • @elementneon
    @elementneon 2 месяца назад +1

    Pokemon Z was always rumored to be the Black 2/White 2 of Pokemon X & Y, so taking place soon thereafter the events of X & Y, in modern day. There will almost certainly then be the traveling back to the past to experience the early days of Lumiose City, and perhaps some involvement with the scary mystery figure known as AZ from the X/Y storyline.

  • @acemartin5266
    @acemartin5266 2 месяца назад

    I took the switch from drafting elevations of building to digital drafting of the city (it looks like Autocad Line work to me)

  • @richardkirkland6805
    @richardkirkland6805 Месяц назад

    Wow, you said you would probably mix up Lumiose with Luminose, but after that initial slip up, i don't think you made the mistake again in the video! So, good job!

  • @jacobbissey9311
    @jacobbissey9311 2 месяца назад

    I think another point in favor of this being 1880s-ish and not modern/future is the fact that there's very clear smokestacks featured *heavily* in the sketches, especially those first three buildings. While including them for aesthetic rather than a practical function is kind of a thing, it makes far more sense for there to be *multiple* smokestacks per building if there's an actual functional purpose for them, which kind of runs counter to the idea of a green initiative. Although, I suppose hypothetically they could be small wind-turbines, that's actually a neat idea that I don't know if anybody has explored before, having a bunch of small wind-turbines in the shape of old smokestacks on a victorian-style house, probably with some solar panels on the roof as well, no idea if any of that would actually be feasible as I am very far from an expert on how any of that works, but if it could work I think it would be really cool to use that classic architecture style with modern housing built to be as green as possible.

  • @AutisticPhantomOtaku
    @AutisticPhantomOtaku 2 месяца назад

    Whether the game will take place in the future or the past, I'm just excited for it!
    Also, was that a conspiracy board you had at the end? That's crazy!😂

  • @confuseddragonedits2294
    @confuseddragonedits2294 2 месяца назад +2

    0:58 Lockstin, there something you're not telling us pal-?

  • @Beauporium
    @Beauporium 2 месяца назад

    The lights and neon colouring give Tron vibes.
    The scenes with Pikachu could reference the synchro machine.
    1 city 2 times line, 2 play styles as Player & Pokemon. Quests return to extend gameplay