How much effort would it have taken turned upright? I started watching these to determine which lock of reasonable cost is hardest to pick or beat by other means in a realistic setting.
Lockpickinglawyer picks it the correct way it's meant to be installed and he had to use a magnet to overcome the magnetic pin, a lot better watch because he picks it the proper way
After watching this video and LPL's pick of the same lock I quickly bought the ABS lock for my own front door. So i think Avocet the manufacturers owe you guys a drink.
I had one on my front door I lost my key. You are correct about putting it upside down. I was trying to open my door for hours in the end I turned my house upside down and I was in within minutes
Hey Bill, already been mentioned in the comments but since you didn't mention it, the logo on the front you can read the BSI, it's known as the Kitemark. It means the product has passed the BSI tests, which are often used on mains plugs, crash helmets etc as an independent (and expensive) certification process to assure a quality product. It's not a legal requirement to have BSI certification but having that mark usually is the sign of a quality product.
use the notch in the end of the follower. turn it back and forth so it releases one pin at a time. Assemble the lock in the same fashion, load one, turn, load second, turn, load third and push the follower to the next set of three and repeat.
I really enjoy being able to see you working the first pin. I know that videoing that type of view would be very hard but it really helps new people to the sport like me. Thanks
Hi Bill. Great video as always. I've worked as a Locksmith in the U.K. for over 20 years now and your picking method is some of the best I've seen. The 3 big pins at the bottom of the Avocet ABS cylinder are hardened and there to stop you trying to drill it as well as all the others. Keep up the great videos. Dan
"You guys know I'm never putting this back together" ... A second before I was thinking how the hell is he putting it back together. Amazing channel. Love it.
That had me in stitches when he said that because at that moment I was thinking he ain’t gonna want to try and put that back together anytime soon 😂👍 great vid tho
Note that one important feature of the lock wasn't defeated. Although Bill managed a complete turn of the barrel, the lock actuator didn't move. Door would have been still locked after all that work.
I've got "some" memory issues, I'm 63 so not to bad but you are really something. I wouldn't even try to understand that lock. you've got incredible skill, and some darn good videos. I'll be passin through from time to time, locks were always an interest to me. thanks.
Great job on this complex lock... I think they are one of the most innovative out there. One important feature that you may not have noticed was the active snap protection... the cam mechanism seizes up (it locks to the inner cylinder) if you manage to snap the cylinder behind the cut. I showed it on my video featuring this lock: ruclips.net/video/zq5rGjt-9rQ/видео.html Also, that complex cam requires you to push a little button at the back of the keyway at the exact right moment during picking -- otherwise, you will not turn the cam even if you pick the lock. The cam mechanism is really quite good! .I'm still confused how this lock opened without actuating the magnetic pin... it looked like the magnetic pin was operating correctly, and it is not gravity dependent. As for the slugs on the bottom, I'm at a loss also. I can't figure out what they are for. Pure speculation: maybe they are to attract magnets inserted in the keyway to keep them away from the magnetic pin. Finally, if you want me to put the lock back together, send it my way. I've done it a few times, and once you have a system, it's not too bad.
LockPickingLawyer why didn't the actuator turn when he picked it did you notice that? In a real door this means a u lock wouldn't occur. Hope to hear back from you with the answer why thanks.
I remember seeing it in one of LPL's videos: I'm pretty sure that those three larger holes in the bottom of the core are for more drill protection plugs.
Brother I have watched quite a few of your videos. You have a great educators temperament a natural talent not found in the general public. You have motivated me to take on lock picking as a hobby. I just ordered my first pick set based on your reviews and can't wait to get started. Thank you.
im a diesel mechanic, ive never tinkered with locks before but ive been watching a few of your videos and I definitely have some motivation to give it a go, after all its just mechanical manipulation. will definitely keep watching and ive subscribed. btw awesome job on that crazy lock!
We have BSI Canada. Although it's "just another" standards/compliance stamp like CSA, ISO, ANSI, UL, FCC, etc. The kitemark is a very meaningful measure of quality on some types of products and basically worthless on other types of products, just like any of the other labels. This might not be the best or most secure lock ever made, but it's the most treacherous one I've ever seen.
The phrase that comes to mind with this lock is "no user-serviceable parts inside". Kudos for seeing that gutting through. No way would I have that much patience or clarity of eyesight.
23:48 Hahaha, I was wondering if you were going to attempt reassembly. great videos, your passion shows in your skills. keep up the good work and don't worry about the video lengths.
After watching your videos and becoming quite competent at lock picking I replaced all of my locks with these ABS Avocet cylinders. Living in the UK it was quite reassuring to see that that they are not the easiest of locks to pick, especially when they are the right way up.
You are unlikely to be burgled by someone who can pick locks, just bump or snap. As this can't be snapped as it locks if you go to the middle snap line, and can't be bumped, it's more than adequate.
this is definitely one of those locks that someone would certainly have to be sure there's something worthy of spending this kind of time on to get into, with this being the only viable point of entry
They key logo on the pocket knife is the logo of a former Swiss bank called "Schweizerischer Bankverein". It was one of the two predecessor banks that formed current UBS. The card shows the Rhine river cargo port of Birsfelden/Basel, Switzerland and Basel itself in the background.
Wow buddy you have to be one of the best locksmiths in the world... great job and a wonderful challenge lock. if you manage too get that crazy thing back together I would really like to see you try to pick it the way it would be installed in a door properly. thanks a bunch In advance.👍
Nice Picking Bill. I have Picked this Lock 🔐 in the U.K. And it's not that bad and it was in the correct way up too as if it was in a door you just need a very small Neodymium Magnet on the end of your Pick or what ever you can get it to the Pin and after that you are set. Keep up the great work. Nick.
Very, very nicely done, if you noticed the kite mark was a "British Standard" one at the bottom, that funny B on its side with the large S in the V, just loved how you analysed this lock after your disassembly, hopefully we can get back to these standards once we leave the EU and give you more challenges . "this was built on a different planet" No it was a UK design ;-)
Not sure if this was already noticed or mentioned in the comments, but that magnetic pin was "picked/bumped" by the rapping with the screwdriver handle. Since chamber 5 does have a top spring to keep the magnetic pin from falling too far, I wonder if it could actually work to get lucky "bumping" that pin past the shear line with the lock inverted? Either way, glad I don't have to face those on a lockout service call. Great videos
Would be much more safe, if the brand was not on the lock, so that it's harder to guess which lock it is, so that it's harder to guess the correct technique.
So out of curiosity if you were called out to a home to get into this type of locked door what would the locksmith do to get in assuming he cant do this upside down and he cant break it off as its fully protected..
Bill, I believe that the lock was construction keyed. Once the new owner used thier key to open the lock those three pins you found on the bottom of the cylinder became trapped rendering the construction key useless.
You're a better man than I am. A lock like that would probably have every child in the neighborhood asking "Mama, what does THAT word mean?" And the friends that, despite the fact that I ask them not to hover over me when I'm picking a lock, guessing at which language I was swearing in. I'm fluent in profanity.
As you start to reassemble, Use a wider piece of shim material (cover the lower third to half of the body) to cover all the pins while using the follower to replace them. As you push the plug back, let the shim material cover the snap ring groove (ride over) which will allow easier insertion.
Now that's a lock that I would trust to secure my house. I'm fairly sure that most houses in the US just use some form of Schlage lock and deadbolt set or Kwikset and those locks, as you've proven time and time again, will take a skilled lockpicker mere minutes to break into
On locks like that with multiple rows of pins, you can use the slot in the end of the brass rod to "select" which one you release by rotating it to line up.
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Bill, so glad you tested my lock :) Glad it arrived in one piece, and you did a nice detailed review. Keep up the good work!
Big thanks for sending this lock to Bill!
How much effort would it have taken turned upright? I started watching these to determine which lock of reasonable cost is hardest to pick or beat by other means in a realistic setting.
i'm glad to , he leant me how to overcome false gates /trap pins , i might get the abs TS007
Sick lock man, great job!
Lockpickinglawyer picks it the correct way it's meant to be installed and he had to use a magnet to overcome the magnetic pin, a lot better watch because he picks it the proper way
I don't believe any of the viewers have issues with your videos running this long. I'd imagine most of them probably enjoy it.
When I saw is was half an hour I delayed watching it yesterday until just now.
i wish more of his videos were this long
i only have issues with his fingernails running this long.
the longer the better
I was just mesmerised
After watching this video and LPL's pick of the same lock I quickly bought the ABS lock for my own front door. So i think Avocet the manufacturers owe you guys a drink.
I had one on my front door I lost my key.
You are correct about putting it upside down. I was trying to open my door for hours in the end I turned my house upside down and I was in within minutes
Lockpickinglawyer picked one the correct way by putting a magnet onto his pick
You took the easy way ou... Uh, in.
So much work. I just stood on my head!
@@Mr.MT3 But you can pick it normally in Australia, no?
"not a super tap, just a little tap" *hits the lock loads of times really fucking hard*
Laughed so hard at this comment😂😂😂😂
it started at 5:30 for anyone wondering
hah, well, it took some convincing :D
Did it work ....
good luck assembling this lock again
Hey Bill, already been mentioned in the comments but since you didn't mention it, the logo on the front you can read the BSI, it's known as the Kitemark. It means the product has passed the BSI tests, which are often used on mains plugs, crash helmets etc as an independent (and expensive) certification process to assure a quality product. It's not a legal requirement to have BSI certification but having that mark usually is the sign of a quality product.
Holy crap! a 26 minute video. I already know that it's going to be a good lock!
use the notch in the end of the follower. turn it back and forth so it releases one pin at a time. Assemble the lock in the same fashion, load one, turn, load second, turn, load third and push the follower to the next set of three and repeat.
Shane Tyree thank you ! I learned a little more today . thank you ...!!!
Exactly what I was going to post. Nice explanation.
Shane Tyree, thanks for writing my comment for me. 😋
you mustve posted around the same time i did haha i checked to see if anyone else posted and didnt see any
I would of wrote the same thx
I really enjoy being able to see you working the first pin. I know that videoing that type of view would be very hard but it really helps new people to the sport like me. Thanks
Hi Bill. Great video as always. I've worked as a Locksmith in the U.K. for over 20 years now and your picking method is some of the best I've seen. The 3 big pins at the bottom of the Avocet ABS cylinder are hardened and there to stop you trying to drill it as well as all the others. Keep up the great videos. Dan
That's the kind of lock I'd like to have on my front door , amazing design , and well picked Bill you're a patient man !
Looking to change to one of these or the ATK :]
"You guys know I'm never putting this back together" ... A second before I was thinking how the hell is he putting it back together. Amazing channel. Love it.
That had me in stitches when he said that because at that moment I was thinking he ain’t gonna want to try and put that back together anytime soon 😂👍 great vid tho
Now that is an interesting piece of work; both the lock and the fact that you retained your sanity while gutting it!
5:26 'This is my Philips screwdriver' *holds up a flat blade screwdriver*
Note that one important feature of the lock wasn't defeated. Although Bill managed a complete turn of the barrel, the lock actuator didn't move. Door would have been still locked after all that work.
Fascinating and epic video Bill, I take my hat off to you for the gutting alone!
I've got "some" memory issues, I'm 63 so not to bad but you are really something. I wouldn't even try to understand that lock. you've got incredible skill, and some darn good videos. I'll be passin through from time to time, locks were always an interest to me. thanks.
Great job on this complex lock... I think they are one of the most innovative out there. One important feature that you may not have noticed was the active snap protection... the cam mechanism seizes up (it locks to the inner cylinder) if you manage to snap the cylinder behind the cut. I showed it on my video featuring this lock: ruclips.net/video/zq5rGjt-9rQ/видео.html Also, that complex cam requires you to push a little button at the back of the keyway at the exact right moment during picking -- otherwise, you will not turn the cam even if you pick the lock. The cam mechanism is really quite good! .I'm still confused how this lock opened without actuating the magnetic pin... it looked like the magnetic pin was operating correctly, and it is not gravity dependent. As for the slugs on the bottom, I'm at a loss also. I can't figure out what they are for. Pure speculation: maybe they are to attract magnets inserted in the keyway to keep them away from the magnetic pin. Finally, if you want me to put the lock back together, send it my way. I've done it a few times, and once you have a system, it's not too bad.
huxleypig69 There is also a small spring holding the magnetic pin in the shear line. It should work fine regardless of gravity or lock orientation.
Late reply but since this lock was disused due to wear that spring might have failed.
R K seems most likely, especially after viewing it disassembled
Would the pins fall into the holes in the bottom if the slugs were removed and the inside was rotated too far?
LockPickingLawyer why didn't the actuator turn when he picked it did you notice that? In a real door this means a u lock wouldn't occur. Hope to hear back from you with the answer why thanks.
I remember seeing it in one of LPL's videos: I'm pretty sure that those three larger holes in the bottom of the core are for more drill protection plugs.
Brother I have watched quite a few of your videos. You have a great educators temperament a natural talent not found in the general public. You have motivated me to take on lock picking as a hobby. I just ordered my first pick set based on your reviews and can't wait to get started. Thank you.
One tough ass lock, Hey Master Lock,🔒 bet you don't know anything about this kind of security. Nice job Mr.Bill 🔓
Not that expensive (in the UK) either about £35.
Larry G ahahahaha!
Wow that's incredibly reasonable. I was expecting 65+ for something like this.
im a diesel mechanic, ive never tinkered with locks before but ive been watching a few of your videos and I definitely have some motivation to give it a go, after all its just mechanical manipulation. will definitely keep watching and ive subscribed. btw awesome job on that crazy lock!
That was amazing! What a great use of technology, loved the magnetic pin.
Oh nice a BSI kitemark cool to see a British lock on here especially as it looks pretty good 😂😂
Reckless Roges he's not British so doubt he knows about the BSI standards.
We have BSI Canada. Although it's "just another" standards/compliance stamp like CSA, ISO, ANSI, UL, FCC, etc. The kitemark is a very meaningful measure of quality on some types of products and basically worthless on other types of products, just like any of the other labels.
This might not be the best or most secure lock ever made, but it's the most treacherous one I've ever seen.
I grew up fishing, I have nothing but patience here ;) love the videos, very relaxing to watch.
The phrase that comes to mind with this lock is "no user-serviceable parts inside". Kudos for seeing that gutting through. No way would I have that much patience or clarity of eyesight.
Damn, I'd love to see someone pick this in-situation. Not upside down and not being able to see the trap pins. Gooood luck.
keep knocking with a screwdriver until the homeowner opened the door. no need to pick the lock
23:48 Hahaha, I was wondering if you were going to attempt reassembly.
great videos, your passion shows in your skills. keep up the good work and don't worry about the video lengths.
After watching your videos and becoming quite competent at lock picking I replaced all of my locks with these ABS Avocet cylinders. Living in the UK it was quite reassuring to see that that they are not the easiest of locks to pick, especially when they are the right way up.
You are unlikely to be burgled by someone who can pick locks, just bump or snap. As this can't be snapped as it locks if you go to the middle snap line, and can't be bumped, it's more than adequate.
That is crazy and super right!! Great job dude! Ignore the clock!
this is definitely one of those locks that someone would certainly have to be sure there's something worthy of spending this kind of time on to get into, with this being the only viable point of entry
Super challenging pick and a way above average lock quality made for an enjoyable watch, not too long at all when the product is this good, thanks.
They key logo on the pocket knife is the logo of a former Swiss bank called "Schweizerischer Bankverein". It was one of the two predecessor banks that formed current UBS. The card shows the Rhine river cargo port of Birsfelden/Basel, Switzerland and Basel itself in the background.
Yeah but its not related is it?
5:29 "this is my Phillips screwdriver" holds up a flathead. Lmao love you Bill
A most excellent lock for the home.
Wow, that is an amazingly intricate mechanism!
That was awesome. An action movie for locksmiths!
The real challenge would be to pick it as it would have been set in a door ;)
Good work as always Billy.
Good luck putting that back together
Wow buddy you have to be one of the best locksmiths in the world... great job and a wonderful challenge lock. if you manage too get that crazy thing back together I would really like to see you try to pick it the way it would be installed in a door properly. thanks a bunch In advance.👍
Just picked my first lock! Very satisfying.
I waited an episode like this for a while. Thanks Bill, keep it up !
French fan.
Great great great video. Thank you very much, excellent picking and lock also !!!!
Great job on taking that monster apart! wow!
One of the most interesting locks so far
The core is just like my stocking at Christmas. More and more things just keep coming out.
Nice Picking Bill. I have Picked this Lock 🔐 in the U.K. And it's not that bad and it was in the correct way up too as if it was in a door you just need a very small Neodymium Magnet on the end of your Pick or what ever you can get it to the Pin and after that you are set. Keep up the great work. Nick.
I enjoy the intracacys of machining.
Thank you.
That's an amazingly bad-ass lock, Bill...! Couldn't have come cheap...
brill vid made me feel real safe as I fitted same locks front and rear ( same key for both ) of my house three weeks ago ;-)
Wow, what a lock. Nice work picking it, love the videos
Such a complicated lock but you picked it much faster than previous locks.
That is an awesome cylinder. Great job on picking that thing.
new to your channel watching some of the older videos now. what a fun lock!!! I really enjoyed it.
Great pick and gut! I would love to see a video of you reassemble that lock.
UK locksmith must play he'll with these locks.
This lock is insane!!!
Very, very nicely done, if you noticed the kite mark was a "British Standard" one at the bottom, that funny B on its side with the large S in the V, just loved how you analysed this lock after your disassembly, hopefully we can get back to these standards once we leave the EU and give you more challenges .
"this was built on a different planet" No it was a UK design ;-)
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Wow. That was a beautifully made device
Gads, I LOVE these weird-ass locks.
Keep em coming
excellent lock,great picking
Make a video of its reassembly. I watched 28min of you taking it apart...i'll watch twice that to see it go back together!
What an impressive design!
"You will never pick" Bill, that's the type of short list we need to have!
Not sure if this was already noticed or mentioned in the comments, but that magnetic pin was "picked/bumped" by the rapping with the screwdriver handle. Since chamber 5 does have a top spring to keep the magnetic pin from falling too far, I wonder if it could actually work to get lucky "bumping" that pin past the shear line with the lock inverted? Either way, glad I don't have to face those on a lockout service call. Great videos
Would be much more safe, if the brand was not on the lock, so that it's harder to guess which lock it is, so that it's harder to guess the correct technique.
But it would be easier to pick if they wrote down the size of the key on the outside.
Anyone with the skills to open it is already going to have heard of it.
I don't know if anyone pointed it out yet: the logo on the Swiss army knife belongs to the UBS bank.
Very nice video.
Greetings from Bosnia!
So out of curiosity if you were called out to a home to get into this type of locked door what would the locksmith do to get in assuming he cant do this upside down and he cant break it off as its fully protected..
Bill, I believe that the lock was construction keyed. Once the new owner used thier key to open the lock those three pins you found on the bottom of the cylinder became trapped rendering the construction key useless.
The solid pins on the bottom (top if rotated correctly) are more anti-drill pins.
it was a great adventure to be with ya on this one trip
Those titanium tensioners sure come in handy 😉
Quite a lock for being so small. At least the trap pins were visible so it wasn't a big problem to get around them.
Amazing lock, that video was awesome !
Wow, what a nice lock
You're a better man than I am. A lock like that would probably have every child in the neighborhood asking "Mama, what does THAT word mean?" And the friends that, despite the fact that I ask them not to hover over me when I'm picking a lock, guessing at which language I was swearing in. I'm fluent in profanity.
Wow!! Badass lock!
holy patience , you are truly a mad genius.
really nice video . Very informative as always.😀 definitely one of your better videos . there's no time limit on an awesome job.
As you start to reassemble, Use a wider piece of shim material (cover the lower third to half of the body) to cover all the pins while using the follower to replace them. As you push the plug back, let the shim material cover the snap ring groove (ride over) which will allow easier insertion.
What an awesome lock.
AMAZING pick,Bil! well done.
That makes a sparrows 6 pin revolver a cake walk
My first thought when he went to smack down inner pin 1: "Why is he using a hotdog?"
Other Pickers steal items, this guys steals my time, cause i cant stop watching this stuff
Wow...that's a serious lock. More like a puzzle.
Now that's a lock that I would trust to secure my house. I'm fairly sure that most houses in the US just use some form of Schlage lock and deadbolt set or Kwikset and those locks, as you've proven time and time again, will take a skilled lockpicker mere minutes to break into
That was an fiendish lock. Very impressive skills.
Getting something like this for my front door, looks like a right PITA
On locks like that with multiple rows of pins, you can use the slot in the end of the brass rod to "select" which one you release by rotating it to line up.
Wow trap pins that's something else
Oh that's a smart move the magnetic ball bearing!
So very talented
Bill you could rotate your plug follower clockwise or counterclockwise to the cutout opening to take out 1 pin or repin the lock 1 pin at a time.
Love that technique.
"im just gonna skip this part it gets kinda boring" skips ahead. Bill is viciously beating the lock with a screwdriver lol
What a legendary lock