HVAC Installation: How To Build A Sheetmetal Duct Transition Or Blowout
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As a heating and cooling guy, it's nice to see a how to video in real world conditions and not in some sparkling clean shop. lol. You do great work, bro. I'd hire ya in a heart beat.
Stephen, I'm 74 years old, and I've seen a lot of people doing a lot of different jobs. Watching you work is about the best learning-by-watching experience I have ever had. In large part, it's your accomplished film making that lends to that satisfaction, but far beyond that, it is the confidence and expertise with which you approach your tasks. I enjoy not having to listen to a lot of pointless chatter when the pictures tell such a complete story. And when you talk, I know I'd better listen. Thank you for the generous effort you put into your videos. Paul in Atlanta
+latelifebiker thank you so much for your kind word Paul, I really appreciate your time!
First things first.!!Thank You...for taking the time to make a video..... a lot of people talk....little actually do. second.. I think I count 5 tools including the actual stepper bit!. This is OLD SCHOOL... how is
done without a bunch of fancy tools. " I take out my hat to you"! thanks for teaching me something!! you are part of the You Tube community!
Love the transition construction amidst the chaos of all those tools scattered on the ground, classic stuff.
I certainly didn't stage the job site!
I've been doing hvac install for a long time. I don't really have any complaints. Nice looking work on the transition. You used a slip connection instead of turning drives. To each his own. Nice job.
As a student going into the hvac field I find these videos very informative, thank you.
@Joel I won't let anyone negotiate my wages without me I make more than most union guys, I have the ability to work anywhere I choose to and I don't have to pay dues that go to political candidates that I don't agree with
@Joel Capitalism. That's how. Seeing as Trump is a socialist, its not surprising that socialists like him lol. not that theres anything wrong with voluntary, private collective bargaining.. but the commie kind gets way too much credit for the good things we have.
@@therainman1986 How did you like it the HVAC so far ?
@@seeker1907 your a fool on multiple fronts , and lying .
First off to say Trump is a socialist is to clearly expose your undeniable ignorance.
And your wildly incorrect about non union making more money . You do not make more money than a union tradesmen , your not even close my misguided friend .
However if you do side work that is a different metric all together .
A non union installer does not have local and international pensions , does not have annuities , do not have savings accounts , do not have gr8 commercial insurance , do not have near the education in the specific trades .
On the whole does not pay premium time .
Installers are subject to their individual company .
Non union typically , nationwide are paid less than half of skilled union tradesmen .
Personally I've been non union , union and small owner . I know the cost metrics very well .
That said , the more education you have , the better off you are to continue to
work/earn in the slow times .
There is no serious argument on whether union or non union is better . Clearly union is far better , it's not even close .
How's the hvac going Nathan ?
Good video. Your layout instructions are going to help a lot of poeple get it right the first time. Thanks for taking the time to make these videos. Two things I finally got around to buying after years in the field that helped a lot. A sturdy six foot folding table with adjustable height legs and a Henslers Bender. They dont take up much space in the truck and paid for themselves the first job I used them on.
An HVAC mechanic is definitely worth his salt if he/she knows this important skill. The price of duct components from sheet metal outlets is sky-high. Great video, sir!!
Awesome video, Stephen! I'm HVAC Sheetmetal by trade, but worked with only commercial & industrial this far, no residential. But you made a believer out of me when I saw that you made this out of pretty much nothing and into a fine piece of art. You got a new sub! Keep up the videos, boss!
Hey man I start as a helper with sheet metal hvac work on Wednesday I have some tools some of the basics like hand tools and drills some cutters what do you think I’ll need to be successful in this trade
I literally had to teach myself, this guy clearly is skilled. The most rewarding part of watching this video is how he uses the s lock as a straight edge, because I do the same thing!! Lol
Awesome job on showing people. I’m going to use this knowledge soon. Thanks.
I make stuff like that in my shop, but I got big breaks and machines and all that, those tools have seen better days :)
+Eddi Kimball I've has those Andy's for a LONG time! I used to work for a shop that had a big break on a site trailer but it was new construction.
good video i like the fact that there is no nonsense like talking about some rooster, hearing there chicken, etc. well done sir
Thanks David Penprase
Thank you for the knowledge. Normally, I flange some of the tabs on the collar to hold it snug to the metal and prevent the possibility of the collar being pushed inside the duct work.
I flange every other tab.
@@rholley3370 that's the way they taught us in school.
I work with a guy who said for years before he had a Pittsburgh on the truck he made his metal this way. I thought it was another excellent way to get the job done. One thing he showed me was he used a beater screwdriver and that s cleat and scored a crossbreak in the pieces. It looked like he did it on a brake when he was done. Great video!
Really enjoyed watching you in this video. Especially how even tempered you remain while you explain what you're doing. Thank you.
I'm about ready to make a custom square transition piece from my furnace to an existing square duct next weekend. This is by far the best video out there building a transition piece connecting two different square sizes. Quality post. I'll let you know how it turns out.
How did it go
Nice work bro. As a sparky, I can appreciate the work you HVAC guys deal with. Much respect!
Thanks 0778drz110
Good job! Well done. Nice video forget all the haters. It's easy to criticize from your key board
i am also a hvac guy and this is a very good work and thank you for making this video
+sports raiders thanks so much for watching
Bravo! Where to pick up sheets plz
Wow this is very helpful.can’t believe you made it up without having a table to work for of. thanks for making this.
thank you ♥
Good vid. a little someting my dad taught me when putting in a cutin collar bend every other tab out so u have tabs on the out side and tabs on the inside so u can put a few screws from out side to the end cap to hold collar in place extra tight.
OcRefrigeration,Hvac & Electrical. that’s how i do it to!!
That's a good tip for many similar situations. Thanks
Is that a "hack" or is that the intended function of the material?
Good video, have not bent tin in 12 years. Good info for my project coming up!
Stephen, great work and great video! I also like the way you handle the wise guy comments.
Holy shit when you were cutting the hole for the collar with your reds.... Incredible speed lmao
Great video. Thanks for sharing
PS if you don't like his video don't watch it. One of the best Hvac guys I've seen on utube.
+Vincent Padalino Yeah...I just don't get the people that "dislike" a video that somebody has taken the time to post so that others can learn...especially when they do as good as work as this guy does. I just don't get it. Thanks to Stephen Rardon for taking the time to put these videos together and then posting them - to hell with the haters and f#@K all the dip-sh!ts that think disliking videos is an appropriate thing to do.
I agree! This guy is good! I beat the shit out of it when I’m working on it
Very crafty -- it came together nicely. Enjoyed the video editing, especially the rapid-fire zip screws.
Good work. I like the attention to detail in your videos. I am a fan.
I plan on installing jump duct returns in all of our bedrooms with a return duct in the ceiling next to the hvac return. This video was very helpful on how to assemble this stuff. We keep all of our bedroom doors closed to keep the cats out of the rooms and I can feel cold air escaping up into the attic through the ceilings when the AC is on.
I would layout my first side and then trace it for the second side to save a little time :P
good job commercial guy here, love doing residential side jobs but hate going to the shop to bend and make metal. love your tricks , may be hard to do with our 24 ga.
+Dr Greenthumb
j/a, but isn't 24 ga a little too heavy of resi
dential?
Even Boca says 26 for resi duct systen.
+john accer yes but like I said I do commercial so I'm not going to buy 26 ga when I already have 24 in Stock. I guess if I start doing more residential I will.
Very fun video to watch just getting back into install and it always takes me a long time to make transitions
You could have saved a little layout time by tracing right cheek to left since the dimensions are the same. A Malco bar fold comes in handy too. Nice job, I seal the inside seams too when I can!
Thank you so much for this! I purchased a euro style rangehood and have been trying to figure out how to transition from a 6 3/4" - 10". Very hepfull!
Have fun
You did awsome I say grade A I've done same work along time ago 12 years you built a good fitting in the field
Spoiler alert , that's a clete tap and cap .
Which is what you do when you don't know how to make square to round fittings .
This is what we call a hack job done by one with very little knowledge of sheet metal work .
Beautiful display of your tin skillz good job and nicely done!
Thanks Tazzman228
as long as the condenser did not get scratched, your good. Thanks for the video
Great vid im doing a big furnace hwt and full ductwork install in a week so this has helped me with the building a transiton for sure i dont want to have to pay someone else to do it ... just gotta take some time to get the measurements and bends right. Thx again
I guess this is what you have to do if you don’t have a sheet metal shop with a brake, Pittsburgh machine, etc. etc. good job. Got it done.
Pretty much, field fabrication as necessary
glad to see you are very competent in both service and installation, I think a lot of companies that have separate departments would benefit on some cross training. Also probably not to common by you but do you do any boiler work?
erik kogut I don't see many boilers here
You are awesome man. How long have you been doing A/C work? You look pretty young. Im 30, but didnt get into HVAC work until 3 years ago. Been doing commercial installs the whole time, and now im looking into branching out to do service. I need to learn this kind of on the fly sheet metal work bad. So far, the 2 companies Ive worked for order from a sheetmetal shop, and they come out and do all the measurements and everything.
thanks for watching +gramarmy I've been doing HVAC for 16 years, i started at 17 years old. Here's my "life Story" VLOG: My Life Story, So Far Anyway
Using the S lock as a folding tool...... damn that just changed my life lol
Takes some getting used to but it works!
And your customer's new coil as work bench, not cool.
@@neocollective shut the hell up
@Ruffian By Nature i do
@@neocollective not the coil lol...
I was going to write that they sell circle cutters, but you cut that faster and neater by hand than I could with the circle cutter.
I prefer to put the greater dimension of the transition pc at the bottom of the layout, that's just me. You can use the 'S' cleat for a 1" spacer as well and switch patterns of the same dimensions from left to right to save layout, you just have to remember the 1" edge bends the other way. Good work, looks solid.
Good work Stephen. Nice looking sheet metal.
I found this site and I am so glad. You do great work, thanks.
I was a tin knocker back in the 90's up north in NY. I learned this way too. You need to be able to fabricate duct work out on the field. Thanks for showing us the old school. I just had one question...Why didn't you use one as a templet for the other side?
Very informative dope channel just started mine great to watch you guys and learn from you guys thanks 💪🏽🤙🏽🤘🏽
Very well done. Nothing like tin knocking.
Do you always have to make these kinds of pieces yourself? Or do some stores stock square reducers in commonly used sizes?
Also, what kind of screws are you using to hold it all together?
Thanks for the great video, I really appreciate the upload!
If they are the same I use they are 1/4 inch self tapping screws.
Liked for the simple fact that your video has a whopping one second introduction before starting the demonstration! Too many youtube instructional videos feature a tiresome 20 second noisy introduction followed by the host babbling on for another two minutes before they actually pick up a tool.
Human Clock . Another two minutes is putting it mildly. Very irrational yet for free information I chalk those types of videos as blogs. People like to talk and inject their personality in their video so I fprgob
Opps,! So I have to forgive them for the free info somewhere in their video
Straight up good job. If anyone says otherwise, they're jackleg as hell. Down to the inside mastic to make the next guy's life easier to the quality of putting the dummy arrow for direction. Great Job. You made it look easy, but it can be hard.
Thank you Sr I appreciate your time for making this videos Thank you a fun God Bless you for doing this
nice job, simple tools getting it done on the job, props
Nice video very informative. Lots of take aways. One tool you use I haven’t seen anywhere, the straight edge folding tool. Is it your personal master piece or a finished product? Your advice.
The folding tool is simply a section of S-Cleat metal, same material used to connect two sections of trunk duct. Learned that from an old timer who couldn’t be bothered to spend money on a tool when the materials onsite provided a similar outcome.
Stephen Rardon
I love improvised. You guys are so practical.
Hey, which area your service is covering?
@@philoso377 I'm in central North Carolina
Stephen Rardon
I wish you are based in north Illinois. We need guts like you here.
Stephen Rardon
I saw a good deal on Lowe’s an air duct plate folding tool 12” for $2.39. We can get two to make up 24” since we use both hands to fold. If you have time, get it. Model # LXHT73570 item# 1080955
One of your best videos! Thanks
Thanks glad I found your videos, as a first apprentice I already look kind of stupid compared to others so its nice to have study videos.
Still in trade?
What kind of snips are you using/what do you use now?
I've had wiss, and later in their life you always have to adjust the nut holding the blades together.
Lennox, they've been ruined (not by me ofc)
And Malco Max 2000s and those were also ruined :(
I've ordered some midwest offset reds and greens, hopefully these last
Also, why did you tape the end cap rather than paint it? thanks for the videos and i hope you keep making them.
just preference i guess. tape is a lot cleaner than Mastic Paint
you should try a pair of Millwaukee snips once those midwest ones become "easy edgers". 12 years sheet metal Journeyman
@Ruffian By Nature i used midwest through the years and didn't have any issues, They're a great snip also, I'm not sure what your Union is handing out but I have both and think they're equally as good. Personal preference I suppose.
Nice work, as always a learning experience. Thanks. You make it look easy...
Outstanding layout skills. Kudos !
Thanks!
I am an aircraft sheet metal guy. We do a lot of bending, forming, cutting. Do you think a transition into HVAC work would be a smooth or hard process?
I would say a good thing. We have a guy at our job who used to work the shipyards putting together subs. Did lots and lots of metal work. Definitley one of our top guys at work. But it is more than just metal work for sure.
Man you made that look so easy.
+Fares Taveras it’s not too bad once you’ve done it for a few years, thanks for watching!
Sticky back collars are way better than those finger savers. Zip a few screws in them, they are self sealing and never fall off. Nice video
You do nice sheet metal work , great video .
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justin henning evetttt
good video I loved it the only thing I do different is I don't fold the first piece if I have to make two pieces with the same measurements I save it as a template and trace it onto the next piece of metal save a lot of time by not measuring the same thing twice
I rarely make the same piece twice and when you trace the first one to cut the second your don’t have the same measurements, I’d rather spend a little time and have better accuracy than to worry about speed.
Most metal shops have templates if you Sharpe both parts you will be not perfect if you scribe it is more accurate most metal shops use templates and scribe them but in the field if your off 1/8th inch you won't notice it. I'm not a hacker done this work for 24 years just like to see other work and advise on my experience thats all
Learned somthing, Good work.
which hvac brand is the MOST RELIABLE? Trane? what is the top 3 failure in Trance HVACs?
You my friend just made a Reducer, could've been made in 2 pieces by the right guy, I would've made it any other place than on top of a new unit.
I never put ductseal Inside a duct, I guess we do it differently up here. Thanks for sharing.
You're right the fitting could have been cut out of one piece and folded like origami to do the same job. Not everyone is very good with math and this method is pretty simple even for those guys. Top of the unit is no worse for wear. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
That went together pretty good
airkraft1 I admire. Skill like being able to measure, Mark, and cut so the parts actually fit together something that I can't do
That was a good job Stephen.
Sealing the system from the inside doesn't make it too tough. Mastic on the collars can give a head ache. All.that I can get off. But when you got a boob who screws stuff from the inside so once its put together you can never access it without completely destroying the duct system. One of my favorite lazy ways to check a heat exchanger instead of a combustion analysis will be to pop off the plenum with all the ducts still attached and look in then re attach and seal it when done.
I’ve heard some people say they’re rushed and have to work really fast. Is this the fast they’re talking about? Serious question because I don’t know the usual speed.
The S-drive bar fold.......SWEET
You are very good craftsman!.
ugh making transitions ...
i either make it ghetto or call the duct shop lol
you do some great work man
I call duct shop too
I make it you two are pansies
I make it that you are another douche bag mechanic who thinks he knows everything
Awesome job, way to look out for the next install tech.
Thanks for watching Robert
good, saya sangat senang dapat belajar langsung lihat prakteky
Stephen you make it look so damn good bud... Man am I happy I deal with flex and no sheet in Florida keep it up bro #supertech
Good job these vídeos are extremely helpful thanks .
You did good Stephen Rardon
Great metal work Stephen Rardon
Thanks T&N Services LLC. Rob HVAC
nice video,only thing i would have added would have been some insulation to the inside.it will sweat obviously if not.
Don't remember if I showed it but the transition was wrapped with insulation outside.
Is there a benefit between putting the paint on the inside vs the outside? Also, should the screws be clipped to prevent injury? I'm a noob so if the questions are stupid, that's why.
no benefit, just cleaner to paint inside where i can't stick my hands in it
Nice job! I think it's about time to upgrade your snips to ones that aren't broken.
Midwest tin snips..BEST
this is why im only doing new construction for now on.
buddy thanks for share you videos with us thanks alot
Thanks for watching Alvaro Lobo
Good work , impressive .
Use S cleat on the sides of your transition's if you going to throw it together in the field. Also bring a full sheet of metal you could have made that fitting in 2-pc's, or better yet maybe take measurements and make a rectangle to round and not just throw it together in the field when you bid a job take the required measurements and take the right stuff with you. Reminds me of the old days when you would have to rush to remove something and make it work. Looks like your heading down the road of flex to connect everything. Take some pride do it right. Great video for a midnight emergency install, not a retrofit.
I won’t disagree that the method you offer would be great but you can only do what the office feeds you
What is the purpose of adding this? More flow?
That's mighty purty. Also, I must be the only person that calls it "Slip", not s lock.
I call it slip too my friend. Just about everyone in my area does. I'm in Philadelphia.
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I started doing HVAC in NJ, everyone called it slip there. Must be a tri state thing.
Very nice work indeed.
Dudes a beast
Thank you for sharing
Nice work, what gauge of sheet metal you use?
Depends on what the shop has, usually 26
That was super enjoyable. Thanks
All good but I would freak out if I caught my guys using the condensing unit for a table!
Is this aluminum or steel..trying to find aluminum. Any idea where to find it...thx
Great video. Helped a lot. Thanks
Nice sheet metal work....