The WASTED Potential of Carl Grimes
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
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What they did to Carl and Chandler really rubbed me up the wrong way. It was vile. Chandler got screwed over after buying a home to be closer to set. And Carl got robbed because he was given the proper time to develop and become the leader the group needed.
I got to meet chandler riggs at comic con last year, he's a nice guy, doing well for himself with his own film production company. ya love to see good people get their deserved rewards
So many wasted Carl storylines. They did Chandler so dirty man.
This kid could have SAVED seasons 9 - 11 after Rick left, but noooooo. And what his death did for the character of Rick Grimes, it could have been done with Jessie. If Rick's relationship with Jessie had had more time to develop, she could have been significant enough to have an impact on Rick after she dies, an impact big enough to have him want to work towards a future. Sure, Michonne would have not been paired with Rick anymore, but maybe a love triangle between her, Rick and Jessie? And then after Jessie, we could still have Rick and Michonne. Dammit, why did Carl have to die? Carl and Lydia would have been amazing! It happened in the comics, it should have happened in the show too!
How we go from a super important character like Carl to Jessie?? Jessie was never significant. She was simply there to help Rick let go of his previous life with Lori. She was literally a Lori stand-in. They even dressed her like Lori. Even if she had lived, Jessie wouldn't have done anything but drag Rick down with he weakness and her twisted kids. She got her comic book death and was out of the way, so Rick could let that life go and move on with a true partner to help him hold things together rather than being part of the many he had to protect. Carl was the biggest loss. Jessie wad hardly a blip in events.
@Philliwolf5 she is not significant. I'm saying she COULD have been made significant and then Carl wouldn't have had to die. She had potential to be more than what she turned out to be in the show. All it takes is good writing to make a non-importat character into a very significant one. Look at Carol, she was not great at all in the comics but in the show she blossomed into one of the most beloved. Jessie could have grown strong and her kids... I'd give them the same deaths they had in the show just leave her alive and then give HER the death Carl had.
@@quicobrujo3951I honestly agree with you there, Jessie could have been the counterpart to Andrea as well in the show too tbh. I was really proud of her when she stepped up and killed that Wolf, she didn't do that in the comics, meaning the TV version had more potential. I like Rick and Michonne too, but them follwing then comics and having her being Rick's right hand is good as well. We at least would have had another story from weak to strong if Jessie lived, and honestly a love interest who is quite underrated. She could have been what Carol was, abused housewife to absolute badass.
Andrew Lincoln left BECAUSE they killed carl.
@GrandpaJackMcGee No, he didn't.
What makes me upset is how they just never talk about how he or even Maggie were SAed
No one cares about that, it’s not significant.
CORRAL
🗣️🗣️🗣️CORRALLLLLL
The crazy thing is. They could have had this still work without sacrificing Carl. All they had to do was not kill Glenn.
You want a character who doesnt feel right ending the lives of people? Have Glenn show signs of PTSD post the Satellite mission. Have him have nightmares of that same thing happening to him, his friends and most importantly Maggie. Have Abraham be the only intended death of the line up and keep Glenn til season 8 to kill off.
He literally is the friend they needed to sway Rick. Glenn saved him from death all the way in season one when he had no reason to stick his neck out for some stranger but he did, Rick would absolutely have wanted to honor Glenn's wishes for peace as Glenn now can't be there to ensure his wife and child will be in peace.
Hell you can have Glenn die by walker as a call back to his season 1 and two self, saving someone without really thinking but this time it caught up with him like Maggie had warned him.
But it would make sense because to Glenn its making up for the lives he took, in his eyes becoming a monster for killing unarmed people in their sleep and feeling ashmed and disgusting knowing Hershel wouldn't have wanted him to fall down that path.
And then Negans eventual redemption wouldnt be as hard to swallow as he didnt directly cause the death of Glenn but this war did. And it saves Maggie's, imo, horribly stale character from "I hate you negan, ill kill you, i cant forgive you but i want to try to not hate you, i hate you but i need you help ke save my son." Hell that shes caught in.
Carl is saved, Maggie isnt in a stagnant stale revenge to tolerhate loop, Glenn can still die trying to be the voice of reason that i can actually see him being and Rick can still lose someone dear to him that allows him to try and honor the wish of the man who allowed him to return to his family all those years ago.
Bro they followed comics Glenn died in comics.. Negan killed him and Abraham in comics too.But Carl lived.
@@milosradivojevic229 I'm aware Glenn died in the comics but Abe was killed how Denis was in the comics. This was their chance to shake things up if they truly wanted that peaceful character to die while wanting peace angle. I'm just saying for the sake of this argument as Morgan was probably supposed to die and like he said Morgan and Rick were not close enough for that impact to hit.
Honestly they could have just left all alone and not killed Carl period but all I'm saying is since they clearly needed their sacrifice for some reason in the TV series they should have just kept Glenn alive to kill him during the war.
Carl’s death destroyed the future of this franchise
Out of all deaths in the show, while some I didn't like dying too soon and wish they got some more screentime or if others were just written to be cannon fodder a few episodes later I still thought it was fine that they died.
Carl is the exception, I think his death was the one character death in the whole show that just never should've happened. Since the beginning, the show was primarily the Grimes' story and it following Rick's family is what drove it most of the time. In my opinion, Carl becoming the lead was the only logical direction to go if/when Rick died or left the story for whatever reason and him growing up in this world and ultimately leading the show was what should've happened.
awesome video as always! im rewatching TWD again im on s6e5. and it got me think about sasha and i think she was kind of underwhelming after tyrese dies. i think they couldve done so much with her character. but nope she just poisons herself and dies in a season finale. you should do a wasted potential video on her if you havent already
Thank you so much! And yeah definitely I’ll add Sasha to this weeks poll to see if people want to see it
The event that made me quit this show. I did manage to stick around for Rick’s final episodes but that was basically it for me. Dumbest shit ever. Imagine at the ends of the ones who live if it had been Carl and Judith instead of RJ who looked like a stoned muppet. It would have made more of an impact
stones muppet is actually wild
stoned muppet? that just seems racist, its not the kids fault for looking the way he does
@@ketchuprat how is that racist? The kid looks stoned, that has nothing to do with race.
I agree 100%. Scott Gimple sucked when it came to Carl, They were developing his character perfectly the first 3-4 seasons, but after that he was just kind of there....yes, stuff happened to him, but he didnt grow.....until Gimple suddenly turned him into Ghandi overnight!! Like a week prior he went on what seemed like a suicide mission to take Negan out, the day before the war kicked off he killed like 3 or 4 garbage people, then out of nowhere he wanted to hold hands and sing "Kumbaya?!" Total bs.....
I'm glad that i stop watching TWD show way before the announce of the season that Carl died, because if i watch that episode i could go into a rampage on how stupid this decision is.
I really liked what Carl was becoming. I mean he went to kill Negan himself, which is so his father. Showing us he’s gonna fill Rick’s shoes. But nope. Let’s just kill him off. S9-11 would be so much better imo. Especially the ending of s11. At least the emotional weight of his letters and seeing Rick and Carl be together at the end was nice, unlike some other bad deaths on the show. Still, awful decisions.
The show sucks without Carl
Im not sure about sucked but it definitely went down hill without Carl hahah
@theohuntt The show was not the same without Carl and Rick, Andrew Lincoln left at the worst time
@@generalfilms9947 100% agree
Season 8 episode 9 honor was the last episode of the walking dead I’ve watched. I was really interested in seeing Carl’s whisper story be adapted in the show but no that didn’t happen. Plus Rick leaves which completely killed my interest in the show.
Till this day I still haven’t finished season 8 and the show and, I don’t plan to go back nor I care to watch any of the spins off. That AMC is trying to stretch them out as long as they can. Thank goodness the comics exist.
On failing to explore his psyche given all his trauma - I can‘t believe they never explore his recovery from losing his eye. It‘s implied that he‘s not best pleased about it, and the scene where Negan makes him show the wound is great, but not once do we ever hear what Carl has to say about the whole experience. That‘s a traumatic injury at the best of times, let alone in a world where your ability to observe your surroundings and accurately shoot zombies is vital to keeping you alive. Rick doesn‘t even seem any more protective over him than usual even though he nearly died and pulled through with a disabling injury. Aside from Negan bringing it up all the damn time he may as well have never lost the eye for all the impact it had on the story.
Or imagine if Carl was taken to the CRM instead of Rick and became a badass
Even Jay and Silent Bob were upset that they killed Carl.
Complete waste of a character. Rick literally did everything to protect his family, to provide a future for his son... And then Carl dies in one of the worst written ways possible for shock value AND because the studio was greedy and didn't want to pay the actor an adult salary... Absolutely abysmal. I dropped TWD after Season 8 because of Carl's death, it killed the show for me.
I agree the show wasted the potential of Carl’s character, but many articles during that time hinted at the fact ”Chandler Riggs” acting chops wasn’t up to par to pull off the story arc as the main protagonist, and even though the show runners never addressed it Chandler did, and he said he should’ve strengthened his craft. Chandler was great as a child Carl, but he acting didn’t grow as he aged .. In my opinion the show should’ve bit the bullet, and recasted the role , and kept the arc. In an era show’s no longer recast “Game of Thrones” took a chance , and it worked, the Walking dead should’ve done the same “if” his acting was an issue.
Journalists have zero creditability, nor integrity. This was done because they didn't want to pay him a proper wage for the role he ended up in.
Rick should have passed the torch down to Carl like Michael and Vito Corleone. Would be very satisfying to watch Rick let Carl make big decisions and simply advise Carl.
And the man responsible… scott gimple - “show-runner”… also known for ruining ftwd as well (killing off Nick).
the actor who played Nick wanted to leave, so they had to kill him off...however that was after the initial show runner left(Gimple most likely did fire him but not officially) and replaced him with the two most incompetent show runners ever. Erickson was going to keep Troy around for a while too, but he didnt want him ruined so he killed him off end of S3 and Frank Dillane(Nick) asked to be written off
Carl? Who the hell is Carl? Wait....did you mean COREL!?
Its probably the British in you that craves that royal family dynamic lol
Carl would have been great if he was played by a different actor
K why is RUclips deleting my comments? I'm simply saying that the boy Carl killed in season 3 wasn't his fault the kid didn't listen to the instructions told about dropping the gun
I always hated Carl couldn't stand him we cheered when he was finally killed. Must just be me and my mates that were glad?
I wasn't his biggest fan either but he served a HUGE narrative purpose, and shouldn't have been killed off
Carl and Sophia were meant to be. Now looking back, she was destined to be kill off because she was taller than him
2.20 the boy didnt drop his gun he was slowly droping it like how rick did it against shane in season 2 so carl was rigth to shoot the kid
Hershel describes him as unarmed to Rick later on, due to the fact he had already dropped his gun by the time Carl shot him, so didn’t do the right thing
@@theohuntt he was just a kid and he thought the other kid was going to what rick do to shane in season 2x12 (maybe 2x13) me personly ı would fo the same thing
He most certainly had not dropped the gun. He was holding it and walking closer to Carl. If you point a gun at me and give me an order, and I deliberately do not follow the order, what do I expect?
@@theohuntt
3:12
Sounds good