clearly the lesser evil of the whole industry, I still don't like the fact that you need a software and an account to access your game, but it's clearly the best platform in every possible way.
@@robertcarhiboux3164 Completely agree, but the fact also remains that they aren't locking down the OS and you can install things like Heroic launcher to support GOG games, which is the good guy in all this imo. So steam OS performance, with GOG games, sign me up :)
@@robertcarhiboux3164 You can run games from GOG in a Wine or Proton prefix, though you miss out on features that streamline the experience such as preconfiguration (you have to manually set things up) or shader precompilation (removes stutters)
I am hoping Valve introduces Linux to the masses more and more with SteamOS and that more programs are ported over to SteamOS so other Linux distros can just work with them. I just made the switch partially to Fed40/Nobara because it can still play most games and I dont play any games that require kernel level anticheat (most of those games are too damn sweaty anyways). Only thing I can't do work wise is use a program called BioTrackTHC because its .exe only as of the time of writing this and I haven't found a workaround other than having a windows partition/machine handy nearby.
@@achille0072 I have used it in Wine and somehow it started working when it wasnt when I initially tried it. So now im using Nobara as a daily driver at work.
OMG. The AMD vulnerability REQUIRES PHYSICAL ACCESS. Make a big banner for that please! It's almost like Intel is paying people to throw negative mud at AMD while they're on the way down. Typical Intel stuff...
All of those big cpu issues always require instances 99.8% of people will never come by anyways. It’s sucks it’s a possibility, but a small one. Big companies have more to worry about for sure.
I've been running CachyOS Linux for months. All of my Steam games that I play work just fine. The main issue is certain multi-player games where the anti-cheat does not work under Linux. I don't play multi-player games. But my Windows install is now on a 250GB SSD. That's it. My 2TB (edited from GB) NVME is dedicated entirely to Linux now. It's so nice being able to have an OS that I don't have to fear is collecting data on me and selling it.
Intel literally fries itself, and AMD refuses to lock the front door. Competition isn’t about delivering the best product, it’s about who is allowed to deliver the second worst.
@@robertjames4908 Most anti-cheat runs well on linux/proton. Quite often it's simply a checkbox or a 1-line copy & paste addition to the config, download if the lib file and then uploading the lib file into the game package. Usually not even a recompile needed. Linux usually isn't the hurdle. The studios deciding 5 min of work for one person is too much. also MS won't be cutting kernel-level access for 3rd-party software. they are obligated to grant other software the same access their own software has. That's why every anti-virus software gets kernel-level access, since the MS solution does, too. Though would be nice if they'd actually take all extension software and not give it kernel access.
@@robertjames4908 Most anti-cheat softwares on the market are already supported on Linux and run in userspace. The problem with most games with anticheat is that the developers only support the Windows version of the anticheat (for example, Epic's own anticheat can run natively on Linux but Fortnite can't because Epic deliberately choose to not support the Linux version of its own anticheat inside of it). Microsoft making it harder to access their kernel would change nothing about this.
the reason they havent made another steamdeck is because (they said this when it launched) they want the hardware to be a solid generational step, which means they need another generation or 2 of hardware to come out before they have something worth upgrading to. right now everyone better than steamdeck does it with the brute force of wattage. the hardware is 99% the same
@@fajaradi1223When it came out Steamdeck LCD 64 GB was sold at small loss , 256 and 512 GB were sold at profit , after few batches and later with OLED model all of them were sold at profit so not really
i'm using the 512gb steam deck and it still runs all the games I play at decent fps with some tweaking. not to say they shouldn't upgrade to keep up with new demanding titles, but personally I don't really expect that out of a handheld
Same I currently have a card with 12 GB of VRAM and since the cost of 4090 dropped so much in my country recently I would love to get a 4090 but it’s still pretty expensive, new cards are coming out within half a year and 24 GB of Vram is cool but 48 would be so great for my simulations I need that so badly
@@MaxwelI i feel cheated having paid for 16gb. quite clear that they made it 16 on purpose to prevent another 1080ti situation.. forcing us to buy another in less time.
If SteamOS gets to the point where it can easily run on any hardware, Steam will dominate gaming. Handhelds, console, PC, etc. It will become ubiquitous.
@@s-nooze I don't think SteamOS would dominate more than handhelds. It would take out consoles only if Microsoft and Sony don't want to make their own stuff anymore. And for PC people aren't buying a $1000 gaming console. If anything more people might use Linux but there's no reason to have SteamOS on a PC since PCs are for doing everything not just 1 thing like a console.
@@trsskaterfinally a sensible person. If I’m buying a pc I bought it for everything not just gaming. Why the heck would I want to make my pc a console? I can navigate windows just fine thank but no thanks. Even on my handheld it basically replaces my pc so yeah I’m good. Never asked for a console, I wanted a pc alternative that I could carry around with me and play my games on, given I even have the time to do that
After using Linux for the better part of a decade, whenever I am on a Windows pc it feels like I am watching cable tv without a DVR. "Why are there commercials?" "Why can't I just do what I want?" "Who is controling my device right now?" not to mention all the errors and crashes and the need to open task manager way too often and why is all the system RAM gone? Linux is so fast and buttery smooth and I can make it doe exactly what I want.
as someone who's been a dual booter for 20 years you sound like a crazy person...even with all the advancements they've made in the community these past few years, I'd still never recommend the average person switches to linux.
The "input" section of Steam Deck's patch notes has nothing to do with the OS, it's just that Steam Input now natively supports the ROG Ally. Steam Input (configurator) is what lets you rebind buttons and emulate KBM on controller. If a game supports the Steam Input API, the buttons can be mapped to game actions (so the ingame glyphs will also change depending what button you mapped the action to).
While the 9700X doesn't perform as well as people hoped it would, it's still a powerful CPU. But I, like many others, am waiting to see the 9800X3D numbers. A 9700X was never on my radar anyway.
For me aswell. I bought a 7600x in the beginning of 2023,but after 3 weeks had to rma because of a defect in the io chiplet(pcie slot would have strange issues with every gpu inserted)I then paid some extra to upgrade my existing 7600x rma to a 7700x. Been lusting after a X3D part since it came out,even if it's overkill for my 7900xt😂
@@eurocrusader1724 My First 7700X had some weird Issues that made me think it was my Motherboard or RAM because it was acting like a RAM issue, I had to Power Cycle the Hell out of it for it to boot but once it booted it ran fine until I shut it down
I already dumped Windows, really didn't care to wait for anything else to happen. I play all but two of my games on Steam using ZorinOS setup for gaming (and said setup was pretty simple, btw, not convoluted like it's been in the past). If you haven't tried out any of the latest flavors of Linux in 2024, do yourself a favor and try one out, you will be surprised at how refined and easy to use it's become.
The faster people do this, the better the environments will get. More users = more developer attention = more fixes and improvements. Stop waiting and jump- best to learn now than be forced to learn later
@@mikoserbousek4987 Exactly, I wish AMD would port their Adrenaline software to Linux. If they did it for Windows could they cross-platform compile it?
I have had really good results with Linux Mint running Steam using the Proton option. You have to load Steam and you can do this through Linux Software Manager, when you have Steam up click on the game you want to load, click the gear icon or Manage then click on Properties and on the second tab down on the left click on Compatability and force Steam to use Proton and you can download and run all your Windows games.
All that Intel's new 0x129 microcode update does is that it limits the max possible VID requests that the CPU sends to 1.55V, Intel has even publically said that that's what it does. 1.55V is still extremely high, it's just not as high as before as some CPUs were requesting upwards of around 1.6V. Intel is effectively stalling the degradation on these chips to just go outside outside of the warranty period.
steamOS is nice but its just a linux fork customised by valve for the steamdeck. it is a arch fork if im not mistaken. ive been on arch + kde for years now, great experience. there are a handful of games with very invasive anti-cheats that wont run because of said anti-cheat but personally, those games i wouldnt run on windows anyways because of the anti-cheat's invasivness, so i have had little issue. i have alot of love for the steamdeck and valve, the project really drove proton forward and got us to where we are today (install steam, click play on vast majority of games). and of the small percentage that you cant just hit play, normally you can they just dont meet the optimal user experience because you may have to insert a launch flag or two in steam. but ya, atp i cant think of a single reason to go back to windows, i play vr too, have a valve index, works flawlessly.
Steam sees that windows is going belly up with W11, and they know most of their playerbase is on windows, so they're working to get a new OS out for us gamers to jump to once windows does finally tank.
Where's the data to suggest Windows 11 is going belly up? Please stop. I've worked in tech for 30 years and have been hearing this bullshit the entire time.
A very small percentage of people have willingly upgraded from windows 10 and Windows 11 has bullshit requirements (TPM 2.0) and a horrible horrible RAM footprint
If I understand correctly: You need to have already access for the vulnerability to be exploited. So, if you already have the access, where is the problem?
You wouldn't even need *physical* access to a system to exploit the vulnerability; just need to hijack and exploit a Kernel-level Anti-Cheat like Vanguard in order to push the malware to all Windows 10/11 users on a AMD-power system that can't/won't be patched. Technically; Playstation 4 ("Jaguar"), Playstation 5 ("Zen 2"), Xbox One ("Jaguar"), Xbox Series S/X ("Zen 2"), Steam Deck ("Zen 2"), ASUS ROG Ally/X ("Zen 4") & Lenovo Legion Go ("Zen 4") are all vulnerable as they all run AMD-made/designed SoC's. However, since Sony, Microsoft, Valve, ASUS & Lenovo have direct-communications with AMD, they're likely to be able to get patches made by AMD that can be pushed out before the exploit gets too widely exploited (especially Xbox, ROG Ally and Legion Go as those run Windows 10/11 where Kernel-level Anti-Cheats like Vanguard are promenant).
LTT literally said in their 9000 review to buy an Intel CPU for low end. Technically that was the 14100 which is 60W, but I still take issue with that especially since there is no disclosure at all about the Intel CPU issues in there.
@@MrBrutalmetalhead only steamos is the goat for now. Other os aren't that user friendly. You often have to fix things (and you need to know how to use the scary terminale to do so)
I'll say I've already been really enjoying gaming on my Linux machine. Linux has come a long way. And I personally thank Steam for a large part of that. Their work on Proton is massive.
I wouldn't necessarily base a switch from Windows to Linux on SteamOS. This is more about Proton, which can be used on virtually any distribution. Just try it for a few weeks. Ultimately, it can also be great fun to familiarise yourself with a new system. Ultimately, however, I would nevertheless like to thank Valve for their work in this area. Without Proton, the current upswing in Linux gaming would probably not have been possible.
What you use from adobe? There's a few alternatives. Danvinci resolve, inkscape, krita, and the rest can be gathered from the affinity software suite. Gaming full compatibility... Doesn't get much better than what we already have now which is 80% compatibility across all games on steam, problem being games with anticheat where the companies intentionally break Linux compatibility.
@@someguy9175 The problem is that 20% comprises the most popular games. Yeah you can play the vast majority of single player games but competitive multiplayer is basically not possible on linux and there's a LOT of players on there. Hopefully this won't be a problem in the near future, the moment it isn't, I'll be on linux.
I can't say "without any issues", but Proton has become very, very good. There are some cases where games run better on Proton than on Windows (And vice versa of course). You can always dual boot and keep your Windows install, or get another SSD and install Linux Mint or Ubuntu to that and play around with it.
@@tirdkat6104 I wouldn't doubt games can run better on Proton than Windows, considering that Windows is so full to the brim with bloatware that it spends half of your hardware resources just sending telemetry data to Microsoft. Using Windows is like getting the week's groceries using a Semi Truck. Ridiculously inefficient.
AMD had BETTER change their mind and issue a fix for the 3000 series! They are in SUCH prime position to take over the mantle from Intel... DON'T mess this up team red.
Yeah they should fix 3000 as it's a major release 1000 and 2000 can remain unchanged... but 3000 was what Ryzen 1000 was supposed to be but 1000 was a bit rushed so everything until 3000 was more of an "early access" kind of deal They should fix 3000 it's a major thing and most popular
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You can actually install a steam os-esque distro called "bazzite" while you wait. Its pretty much identical, except its based on fedora, as opossed to arch.
Ironically I am currently writing this from Bazzite, while planning to switch this PC to Nobara (also fedora based, but -- thank god -- not immutable). I learned my lesson. Don't use immutable distros (except good ones like nixos). Stick with ordinary Fedora, or something cooler like Void linux (my daily driver, can highly recommend, though maybe not for gaming).
On a handheld, or a living room pc I'd recommend bazzite too. But for your desktop gaming pc i would recommend 3 of the best gaming distros. Garuda, cachyOS or nobara
@@daxtheducknotaffiliated I use Debian based distros for the compatibility of apps. Many linux apps are designed for Ubuntu which is Debian based so they work seamlessly. I just wish apt was designed like dnf or yum as they have good UI for the terminal.
Valve has a pretty great opportunity here to catch the eyes of people who don't use their gaming PC's for non-open source applications; even more so encouraging game developers to make ports for Linux. Even if you can't entirely switch to Linux it's more possible than ever to just use a secondary 250GB SSD for Windows to dual boot for any applications that you need that require Windows. Windows will never go away entirely for business reasons but making Linux more mainstream makes me hopeful that people will finally have enough of Microsoft's intrusion.
@@noname-oe9jy There's ProtonDB as a nice little community-run database for compatibility reports with Proton. Might be a helpful resource for you as well.
Before I even watch the comment response section, or go back and look at the comments from the last couple of videos that Kyler hosted, I want to say I wasn't super warm to him at first, but I'm warming up, and if it means that you guys can take breaks more often and keep putting out videos, I'm all for it. It's a little bit of a shock anytime a RUclips channel makes a quick change to hosts, but in the end its healthier for the employees and that's what matters
I like all the staff they can all host but there is something special about you even if it’s a talking head video the voice at this point is iconic and what makes me think of UFD tech when I come to watch it. Everyone is doing a great job just my two cents keep on going strong and congrats on the 1 million subs
It's quite amusing how Microsoft and Society live in an abuse relationship. We know that it is bad and abusive, we hate it, yet we can't leave it because we need it.
Just like any other abusive relationship, we have to build the tools to escape it. With Linux it has taken a lot of time but it's approaching realstic levels of just being better and just working.
The "reveal" events for PC hardware are cool and all, but honestly I wouldn't mind the practice shifting to something more like a digital press release. The amount of money that is spent just for them to physically show off their newest toys and STILL give us misleading slides has got to be meme worthy. So much wasted time and capital for something that could effectively be an email. And honestly, after gearing up to lay off 15K people, it might not be the best optics to do exactly what I stated above. Which is blowing a bunch of money on an event that, itself, doesn't really generate that much hype or market anticipation. It's the actual product, specs, and data shown off at the event that creates market hype. Just give out a bunch of detailed slides and press info to the media outlets and youtubers, and watch the free marketing flow.
I'm a few days late, but I love that UFD tech has made it to a place where full team efforts can happen for videos more easily! That's a positive milestone for a growing channel :-)
Intel canceling reveal of Gen15 means they perhaps realized that reheated 13th already was faulty and reheating it twice in a row won't work. Maybe they'll come up with new architecture instead of generation.
Not sure if others might have thought the same I had when this video started, it appeared like you were sitting on a toilet in a bathroom, making wonder if you were dual tasking and taking care of business while you were doing broadcast, almost felt a sense of relief as video went on to to display and see your pants were up, LOL, your might want to use another location for your next video.
I've got a system I built in 2020 with a 3090 and a 10700k. Not the latest and greatest, but this thing is still a freaking beast with no reason to upgrade. Not Windows 11 compatible so I'll be installing some flavor of Linux next year. Maybe SteamOS?
Why is your system not compatible? Seems more than ew enough. Even for systems that aren't, there are ways to install Windows 11 even if you don't have TPM 2 (You do need to at least have TPM 1)
If you only use that PC for gaming, something like Bazzite might be interesting to you. If you also use it regularly for "normal" computer stuff, maybe a normal Linux distro is a better fit (something like Mint, Ubuntu, TuxedoOS, Zorin, there-are-quite-a-lot-of-choices). Keep in mind that Steam and their compatibility stuff is not limited to the Deck or SteamOS; it works on pretty much anything.
@@tirdkat6104 Don't know why, never bothered looking into it. Microsoft just tells me "no good" and I'm not upgrading anything just for 11. Top of the line (for 2020) Asus Strix Z490 MB.
i find it odd is Intel paying people to find and report on an old AMD problem on some Old AMD CPU's a problem that you have to let someone install something in your Core. you have to open the Door and let them in. Yet to Fix a problem with Intel's New CPU's you have to Open the Door and install something in the Core, and Bios updates to turn your Intel 5.2 CPU in to a 4.3 what if there is a problem with intel also and doing this opens the door for it? we know AMD has had some problems but they also worked on getting it Fix
Did you ever have one of those vivid dreams that sometimes realize years later as a dejavoo in reality. I had a dream that I remember well, sitting on my PC and explaining someone that I have Steam OS and not Windows.
The steam deck was the device that turned me into a full time linux user. I fell in love with linux a long time ago but, never saw it as an os that I could use on a daily basis but, it wasn't until I used steamOS that I realize that it was possible. Then after windows recall was announced and my windows install had nuked itself multiple times in the span of a few months. I decided to go full time linux and there hasn't been a day that I have regretted it.
The 13x / 14x issue is not a blip on their balance sheets. Their profit margins went from 25% to 12% to 3% YoY the last three years. They are on thin ice and the liability for having to replace _at minimum_ a quarter of all 13x and 14x CPUs will put their margin deep in the red. Their current cash reserves are also quite low.
From what i read about this sinkhole, it requires flashing a specific part of the chip code (not even the bios). So it's not something an attacker can pull off remotely at all, it need physical access to the chip. Which means that if any consumer has this problem, it was done either at the factory or shop that assembled the computer. Where else can someone gain access to the cpu without you knowing? Doesn't sound like a huge deal at all for domestic consumers. Servers of course need to watch for this kind of stuff, a lot of people handle them...
windows isnt going to die!!! some people actuially do something else than play video games allday there is no way profesiaonal people stop use windows what will they use??? linux ??? HAHAHA nice joke continue dreaming
@@WolfSniperLetsplaysJokes on you. Linux is used by professionals all the time. The only thing that really locks people in to a particular OS is if they need to use a particular piece of software that is only available on that OS. Doesn't mean there isn't something similar on another OS, it just means they have to use that particular software where they work.
@@WolfSniperLetsplays I for one cannot stop using Windows for "profesiaonal"/work stuff. Reason being that I never used Windows for that. The joke's on you. Professionals will use Linux? Always have been.
@@WolfSniperLetsplays I will never understand why people get so tribal about software and brands and teams. Really arbitrary and pointless stuff. It's ok to like different things.
@@danielharvison7510its arbitrary and pointless to keep letting yourself get stabbed in the back by any one company too! but hey, it's the norm, so its fine, right?
if they can get VR support in steamos i'd gladly swap my gaming OS over from windows. Just not doing that atm as i use VR, a katwalk treadmill and other peripherals that just dont have software support outside of windows. I dont use windows for anything but gaming (vr specifically as linux supports the windows games i play better than windows these days, most older titles)
The big problem with SteamOS is it still can't let me just play my entire steam library. Lack of anti cheat compatibility will put windows ahead for me until that's no longer an issue
Are you absolutely sure about that? We just saw Crowdstrike shitstorm and I don't have slightest interest that some games install malware for anticheat, just waiting anticheat or OS update when everything is broken. So I actually like that they don't work on Linux. I prefer to play games without malware.
So basically its not a real vulnerability... If you have that level access you can already do whatever you want including make things continue after OS reinstall.... It's like saying not locking a box inside your safe inside your locked house surrounded by security is a vulnerability. If someone bypassed ALL of that already you have a LOT more to worry about than a single machine and literally nothing would have stopped them doing whatever they want anyways.
Literally every single retro game is more comfy and better frame times on linux. It literally saved my rog ally. 30% more fps in Batman Arkham knight too.
With regard to installing steamOS on other devices: it drives my curiosity a little. What I'm hearing is that this is something that valve is supporting on their own which is interesting. Though, one thing that feels mentionable is that right now, vendors may still put together their own windows builds of things if they decide not to put efforts into steamOS The thing I feel like would need to happen is some kind of support program for valve - if vendors want their devices added, there needs to be a system to tell them how to get them up & running. If there's desire from valve & there's desire from vendors, then it might be possible to have stronger support, but it's certainly something worth thinking about. Kernel wise, it's not too much of a problem I bet, vendors need to establish drivers for the kernel itself, but another piece of the puzzle is if steamOS recognizes everything as well, so some coordination with everyone is going to be important
... Now I'm upset that I build a friend a Threadripper 1 system years back... The thing is a monster and he still can play anything current with it. A GPU refresh is needed for anything beyond 1440p and if he wants RT. We opted for a Vega 64 since he wanted a gaming and production (CAD stuff) PC for 1500€, so I decided he gets the mid range TR - was the best price/performance ratio at the time - and everything would be upgradable a few years down the line. I erred on so many fronts with that thing. Still a good PC, but the hoped for upgradability of the parts were kinda low.
Guy says he don't like the 95C temps for 7000 series cpu's but then happy to get 9000 series which is still 85*C so only 10*C difference. 7600x or 9600x under max load in Cinebench even with a 360mm Custom Loop Both will sit on or above 80c for entire test.
What a HUGE L for team red bro.. and they have the audacity to say it's "outdated"... yet millions still uses said products.. makes complete sense when it comes to the severity of the situation. Rip my other PC, it has vanguard installed.. you already know they're pulling something like this..
It’s been my thought that Valve shouldn’t bother with a SteamDeck revision and should instead tailor SteamOS to other handhelds. Offer Asus maybe a $50 or $100 incentive for each Ally sold loaded with SteamOS that logs in to Steam. Valve can get out of the hardware game while SteamOS handhelds are sold at more competitive pricing that entices consumers into Steam’s ecosystem. It’s a win for Steam, OEMs, and consumers.
Chip foundries are hugely expensive affairs. I doubt people understand the cost and complexity. Trying to keep up with whoever is in the lead is very difficult and has sunk many chip makers in short order over the years.
SteamOS for desktop is something I would totally use. If it can do half of what windows can do, i would switch. IE, so long as I can use browsers, vscode, discord and whatnot, i'm in.
Thank you! Another person who is actually being rational about the Ryzen 9700X and 9600X. I'm on 3950X I was not going to spend stupid money upgrading from AM4 to AM5 when Zen 4 came out, just to get a maybe 5% gain at 4K. With a new AM5 mobo chipset coming out in a matter of months too, it is also irrational to buy Zen 4 even if it is cheaper than Zen 5. Plus, I like a lot of people are waiting for Zen 5 x3D to see what that brings. So all the noise is just overblown seeing the 9700X and 9600X are not engineered for gaming but productivity and if using 50% of the power to get the same performance as Zen 4 equivalents at lower release MSRP, then that is a plus. Fine AMD could have given them a bit more juice, but the rage is crazy. I find it funny reviewers will say well if you're spending a $1000 on a GPU then $600 extra to get the RTX 4090 is nothing. Yet they don't apply the same logic to the new chipset features coming with X870 for Zen 5. Anyways, exciting news that you may soon be officially joining the Linux world when SteamOS is out for all systems. Been using Linux since exclusively 2016 and have not missed Windows in anyway
When I run prime95 small ffts on my 13600kf it gets super hot and consumes about 300 Watts on stock BIOS settings after the newest MSI patch. That's a hotter than it ran before on stock settings. But the most annoying thing is that it does not reach 5.1 GHz on all P-Cores anymore ( It only reaches 4.6 GHz ish). Only after I undervolted it as far as I could I got it back on 5.1 GHz. I think they just increased the average voltage so all the already broken CPUs can run stable. But at the cost of maybe damaging them even more? (That is only speculation of course). And I know that prime95 is not my average workload but it still shows that they did crazy stuff here. At least when you run your CPU on stock settings.
The forced Windows 11 changeover is going to practically brick my PC. Steam OS either becomes available for all PCs or I stop buying/playing games. The frustration is no longer worth my time & energy.
Intel liked the recent adoption of that programming language in the Linux community so much that they decided to implement it on a chip level basis. *It's called Rust, BTW.*
Hooray, SteamOS on the Ally, etc will rock and Valve said in a developer FAQ they were looking at bringing the Deck to Australia (via a partner as Valve never sells HW directly here) but never did so.
Bret, what do you think would be the next few hurdles if steam OS was able to be installed on an average PC? I think AMD video card driver support with all the windows features may struggle.
Manufacturers saying they won't fix stuff because it's outside of their support window may be "not great vibes" but it's also financial reality. Like, what should they say if somebody discovers a critical hardware flaw in a Thunderbird generation processor? Are they obligated to fix it despite that CPU being 20 years old? I wouldn't think so. So the question isn't "should there be a cutoff date", the question is specifically when, and that's not based on vibes: it's based on how long important customers hang on to old chips.
@@vinumsabbathi5288 Still being sold by AMD? Or just retailers unloading old stock. Big difference. Also my point wasn't to say that the 3000 specifically should be excluded, my point was more to raise awareness that there WILL be a cutoff point, and people need to acknowledge that
I made the switch from Windows to Linux about 4 months ago on my desktops and glad i did. Out of my 300 games I can't play about 3 of them because of the kernel level anti cheat they require
I do want this to get really good. The only reason I have a Windows PC is for gaming, all the rest of my computing is done on my main Mac and Linux systems. I LOATH windows, but it's basically a requirement for modern games. Make 99% of the games I play work with SteamOS and I'll happily get rid of Windows for good.
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Good luck with your son.
can you make a short about this??😅
Gabe Newell said years ago after leaving Microsoft that one day he would create a replacement for windows. The dream is reality.
Windows 10 last windows I will use I waiting for decent Linux / Steam OS distro for desktop
clearly the lesser evil of the whole industry, I still don't like the fact that you need a software and an account to access your game, but it's clearly the best platform in every possible way.
@@robertcarhiboux3164 Completely agree, but the fact also remains that they aren't locking down the OS and you can install things like Heroic launcher to support GOG games, which is the good guy in all this imo. So steam OS performance, with GOG games, sign me up :)
Still Unix. I fucking hate Unix
@@robertcarhiboux3164 You can run games from GOG in a Wine or Proton prefix, though you miss out on features that streamline the experience such as preconfiguration (you have to manually set things up) or shader precompilation (removes stutters)
"requires kernel-level access" - well thank heck for being a linux user!
"requires physical access" - well thank heck for being an Arch linux user!
"Requires physical access"- well thank heck i don't have a pc!
*well thank heck for being a linux-from-scratch user ;)
Well thank fuk for owning Eniac, an abacus and wire coding in binary, phone switch style. Y'all laggin bro.
You forgot the arch btw.
(I use arch btw) 🤣
well thank fuck *rubs two sticks together*
The UFD Tech staff locked him in a closet.
For his own good
While forced to listen to R. Kelly's Trapped in the Closet
I thought it was a toilet 😂
Valve made a archlinux (the distro SteamOS is based on) mainstream before releasing Half life 3.
fcking legends
I am hoping Valve introduces Linux to the masses more and more with SteamOS and that more programs are ported over to SteamOS so other Linux distros can just work with them. I just made the switch partially to Fed40/Nobara because it can still play most games and I dont play any games that require kernel level anticheat (most of those games are too damn sweaty anyways). Only thing I can't do work wise is use a program called BioTrackTHC because its .exe only as of the time of writing this and I haven't found a workaround other than having a windows partition/machine handy nearby.
@@HawaiianForgeStudios have you tried running that program with wine? Bottles is also a good program to try if you need to use windows software
@@achille0072 I have used it in Wine and somehow it started working when it wasnt when I initially tried it. So now im using Nobara as a daily driver at work.
OMG. The AMD vulnerability REQUIRES PHYSICAL ACCESS. Make a big banner for that please! It's almost like Intel is paying people to throw negative mud at AMD while they're on the way down. Typical Intel stuff...
Intel is dead bro. Deal with it
@@visualprefhow about you learn to read what the guy wrote?
@@SuwinTzi looks like the user you're replying to is a bot
ok then what if you get a used CPU infected? that venerability will completely trash the future values of AMD cpus....
All of those big cpu issues always require instances 99.8% of people will never come by anyways. It’s sucks it’s a possibility, but a small one. Big companies have more to worry about for sure.
I've been running CachyOS Linux for months. All of my Steam games that I play work just fine. The main issue is certain multi-player games where the anti-cheat does not work under Linux. I don't play multi-player games. But my Windows install is now on a 250GB SSD. That's it. My 2TB (edited from GB) NVME is dedicated entirely to Linux now. It's so nice being able to have an OS that I don't have to fear is collecting data on me and selling it.
CachyOS is great!
haven't heard of cachyos but yeah anticheat suck lol - a nice tip of mine is just checking protondb and areweanticheatyet
I'm not even surprised that Linux fits on a 2GB drive ^^
(I think you meant 2TB)
I didn't think they made nvme with just 2gb
Hoe does the RAM usage compare when gaming?
Intel literally fries itself,
and AMD refuses to lock the front door.
Competition isn’t about delivering the best product, it’s about who is allowed to deliver the second worst.
1:46 Soo any anti cheat on the market could exploit this...
Yep, that's why microsoft are banning kernel level access. So anti-cheat barrier to linux is finally removed.
@@robertjames4908 Most anti-cheat runs well on linux/proton. Quite often it's simply a checkbox or a 1-line copy & paste addition to the config, download if the lib file and then uploading the lib file into the game package. Usually not even a recompile needed. Linux usually isn't the hurdle. The studios deciding 5 min of work for one person is too much.
also MS won't be cutting kernel-level access for 3rd-party software. they are obligated to grant other software the same access their own software has. That's why every anti-virus software gets kernel-level access, since the MS solution does, too. Though would be nice if they'd actually take all extension software and not give it kernel access.
vanguard sweating
@@robertjames4908 Most anti-cheat softwares on the market are already supported on Linux and run in userspace.
The problem with most games with anticheat is that the developers only support the Windows version of the anticheat (for example, Epic's own anticheat can run natively on Linux but Fortnite can't because Epic deliberately choose to not support the Linux version of its own anticheat inside of it).
Microsoft making it harder to access their kernel would change nothing about this.
@@robertjames4908 FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!
So in other words steam said " it is not worth to produce another steam deck, lets just spread our software like faith so we can earn more"
I'm sure they will have another Steam Deck, but yes they want people to be able to access it on other systems as well.
Are they selling deck at loss?
the reason they havent made another steamdeck is because (they said this when it launched) they want the hardware to be a solid generational step, which means they need another generation or 2 of hardware to come out before they have something worth upgrading to. right now everyone better than steamdeck does it with the brute force of wattage. the hardware is 99% the same
@@fajaradi1223When it came out Steamdeck LCD 64 GB was sold at small loss , 256 and 512 GB were sold at profit , after few batches and later with OLED model all of them were sold at profit so not really
i'm using the 512gb steam deck and it still runs all the games I play at decent fps with some tweaking.
not to say they shouldn't upgrade to keep up with new demanding titles, but personally I don't really expect that out of a handheld
Man, I would love that 48GB 4090 for my Blender work...
Is that what you call it? Blender work?
@@gordonoboh833 man's blending his work
I know what kind of man you are
Same I currently have a card with 12 GB of VRAM and since the cost of 4090 dropped so much in my country recently I would love to get a 4090 but it’s still pretty expensive, new cards are coming out within half a year and 24 GB of Vram is cool but 48 would be so great for my simulations I need that so badly
@@MaxwelI i feel cheated having paid for 16gb. quite clear that they made it 16 on purpose to prevent another 1080ti situation.. forcing us to buy another in less time.
If SteamOS gets to the point where it can easily run on any hardware, Steam will dominate gaming. Handhelds, console, PC, etc. It will become ubiquitous.
Steam runs on any flavor of Linux just grab the package and play your games with Proton just like a Steam Deck. What more are you waiting for?
@@s-nooze I don't think SteamOS would dominate more than handhelds. It would take out consoles only if Microsoft and Sony don't want to make their own stuff anymore. And for PC people aren't buying a $1000 gaming console. If anything more people might use Linux but there's no reason to have SteamOS on a PC since PCs are for doing everything not just 1 thing like a console.
@@trsskaterfinally a sensible person. If I’m buying a pc I bought it for everything not just gaming. Why the heck would I want to make my pc a console? I can navigate windows just fine thank but no thanks. Even on my handheld it basically replaces my pc so yeah I’m good. Never asked for a console, I wanted a pc alternative that I could carry around with me and play my games on, given I even have the time to do that
After using Linux for the better part of a decade, whenever I am on a Windows pc it feels like I am watching cable tv without a DVR. "Why are there commercials?" "Why can't I just do what I want?" "Who is controling my device right now?" not to mention all the errors and crashes and the need to open task manager way too often and why is all the system RAM gone? Linux is so fast and buttery smooth and I can make it doe exactly what I want.
What is this "Cable TV" you speak of? Sounds prehistoric, lol
@@magneticanimalism7419 right now being young is not an archivement..
@@magneticanimalism7419 that's the point
as someone who's been a dual booter for 20 years you sound like a crazy person...even with all the advancements they've made in the community these past few years, I'd still never recommend the average person switches to linux.
The "input" section of Steam Deck's patch notes has nothing to do with the OS, it's just that Steam Input now natively supports the ROG Ally.
Steam Input (configurator) is what lets you rebind buttons and emulate KBM on controller. If a game supports the Steam Input API, the buttons can be mapped to game actions (so the ingame glyphs will also change depending what button you mapped the action to).
While the 9700X doesn't perform as well as people hoped it would, it's still a powerful CPU. But I, like many others, am waiting to see the 9800X3D numbers. A 9700X was never on my radar anyway.
For me aswell.
I bought a 7600x in the beginning of 2023,but after 3 weeks had to rma because of a defect in the io chiplet(pcie slot would have strange issues with every gpu inserted)I then paid some extra to upgrade my existing 7600x rma to a 7700x.
Been lusting after a X3D part since it came out,even if it's overkill for my 7900xt😂
@@eurocrusader1724 My First 7700X had some weird Issues that made me think it was my Motherboard or RAM because it was acting like a RAM issue, I had to Power Cycle the Hell out of it for it to boot but once it booted it ran fine until I shut it down
@@deltasixgaming Must admit that bios updates made my system boot much quicker and run more stable.
Ive got an Asrock b650e Riptide
Prepare for
A nother
M ajor
D isappointment
Might as well get the 7800x3D
Zen 5%, PryZen 40%
I already dumped Windows, really didn't care to wait for anything else to happen. I play all but two of my games on Steam using ZorinOS setup for gaming (and said setup was pretty simple, btw, not convoluted like it's been in the past). If you haven't tried out any of the latest flavors of Linux in 2024, do yourself a favor and try one out, you will be surprised at how refined and easy to use it's become.
I just use Ubuntu 24.04 LTS for now; but I hear/read that CachyOS is good for tad bit better gaming performance.
Running Mint as my setup and my gaming is practically unchanged. Thanks WINE and Steam Proton
The faster people do this, the better the environments will get. More users = more developer attention = more fixes and improvements. Stop waiting and jump- best to learn now than be forced to learn later
@@mikoserbousek4987 Exactly, I wish AMD would port their Adrenaline software to Linux. If they did it for Windows could they cross-platform compile it?
@@cybernit3 It sucks really bad on Windows and you want them to expand their software support? Ha.
I have had really good results with Linux Mint running Steam using the Proton option. You have to load Steam and you can do this through Linux Software Manager, when you have Steam up click on the game you want to load, click the gear icon or Manage then click on Properties and on the second tab down on the left click on Compatability and force Steam to use Proton and you can download and run all your Windows games.
you are the GOAT.
@@kylefratini2833 Thanks Kyle I hope you enjoy Linux and gaming on it. I know I sure do!!!
All that Intel's new 0x129 microcode update does is that it limits the max possible VID requests that the CPU sends to 1.55V, Intel has even publically said that that's what it does. 1.55V is still extremely high, it's just not as high as before as some CPUs were requesting upwards of around 1.6V. Intel is effectively stalling the degradation on these chips to just go outside outside of the warranty period.
Typical corporate behavior that runs amuck freely
steamOS is nice but its just a linux fork customised by valve for the steamdeck. it is a arch fork if im not mistaken. ive been on arch + kde for years now, great experience. there are a handful of games with very invasive anti-cheats that wont run because of said anti-cheat but personally, those games i wouldnt run on windows anyways because of the anti-cheat's invasivness, so i have had little issue. i have alot of love for the steamdeck and valve, the project really drove proton forward and got us to where we are today (install steam, click play on vast majority of games). and of the small percentage that you cant just hit play, normally you can they just dont meet the optimal user experience because you may have to insert a launch flag or two in steam. but ya, atp i cant think of a single reason to go back to windows, i play vr too, have a valve index, works flawlessly.
Steam sees that windows is going belly up with W11, and they know most of their playerbase is on windows, so they're working to get a new OS out for us gamers to jump to once windows does finally tank.
I can't wait!
Steam OS is literally just another Linux distro based on Arch Linux.
@@ultimate9056 why is this relevant?
Where's the data to suggest Windows 11 is going belly up? Please stop. I've worked in tech for 30 years and have been hearing this bullshit the entire time.
A very small percentage of people have willingly upgraded from windows 10 and Windows 11 has bullshit requirements (TPM 2.0) and a horrible horrible RAM footprint
About Sinkclose... if someone compromise a CPU and sell it on ebay... he will have full access to the computer where this CPU will be installed?
Mirror also gives you a behind the scene look
If I understand correctly: You need to have already access for the vulnerability to be exploited. So, if you already have the access, where is the problem?
Agreed! A disgruntled employee can be way more dangerous than a hacker from another continent.
permanent persistence..?
Well, if it's true that to install? Or to exploit? Because if it's only to install, buy a PC, infect it, sell it, profit? Idk.
bare metal servers or second hardware
You wouldn't even need *physical* access to a system to exploit the vulnerability; just need to hijack and exploit a Kernel-level Anti-Cheat like Vanguard in order to push the malware to all Windows 10/11 users on a AMD-power system that can't/won't be patched.
Technically; Playstation 4 ("Jaguar"), Playstation 5 ("Zen 2"), Xbox One ("Jaguar"), Xbox Series S/X ("Zen 2"), Steam Deck ("Zen 2"), ASUS ROG Ally/X ("Zen 4") & Lenovo Legion Go ("Zen 4") are all vulnerable as they all run AMD-made/designed SoC's.
However, since Sony, Microsoft, Valve, ASUS & Lenovo have direct-communications with AMD, they're likely to be able to get patches made by AMD that can be pushed out before the exploit gets too widely exploited (especially Xbox, ROG Ally and Legion Go as those run Windows 10/11 where Kernel-level Anti-Cheats like Vanguard are promenant).
LTT literally said in their 9000 review to buy an Intel CPU for low end. Technically that was the 14100 which is 60W, but I still take issue with that especially since there is no disclosure at all about the Intel CPU issues in there.
They should have used 12100F or 12400F, no one is using 14100 for the price. LTT is always out of touch just enough to get it wrong somehow.
Linux will become the goat
microsoft seems to be working on it lol. So that people have a great OS and they don't need to pay engineer anymore lol.
@@robertcarhiboux3164 Microsoft seems to prefer investing in AI and providing spyware update than actually improving the user experience
It will be in the next year if you know what I mean. ;)
it already is the goat. its just more people are finding it
@@MrBrutalmetalhead only steamos is the goat for now. Other os aren't that user friendly. You often have to fix things (and you need to know how to use the scary terminale to do so)
I'll say I've already been really enjoying gaming on my Linux machine. Linux has come a long way. And I personally thank Steam for a large part of that. Their work on Proton is massive.
I wouldn't necessarily base a switch from Windows to Linux on SteamOS. This is more about Proton, which can be used on virtually any distribution. Just try it for a few weeks. Ultimately, it can also be great fun to familiarise yourself with a new system.
Ultimately, however, I would nevertheless like to thank Valve for their work in this area. Without Proton, the current upswing in Linux gaming would probably not have been possible.
the moment where linux has:
Full gaming compatability
Adobe Support
yall aint seeing me on windows
What you use from adobe? There's a few alternatives. Danvinci resolve, inkscape, krita, and the rest can be gathered from the affinity software suite.
Gaming full compatibility... Doesn't get much better than what we already have now which is 80% compatibility across all games on steam, problem being games with anticheat where the companies intentionally break Linux compatibility.
@@someguy9175 The problem is that 20% comprises the most popular games. Yeah you can play the vast majority of single player games but competitive multiplayer is basically not possible on linux and there's a LOT of players on there. Hopefully this won't be a problem in the near future, the moment it isn't, I'll be on linux.
@@_fr4mes743 yeah. I agree. I'm thankful I was never really into those games kekw
@@_fr4mes743Tbh, that's mostly up to the game and anti cheat developers.
Some just intentionally brick Linux compatibility for whatever reason.
You will be on windows forever then, adobe is never coming to linux and kernel mode anti-cheats will never work on linux either.
if gaming works without any issues I'll say goodbye to windows for good
windows has been going downhill for a while now
I can't say "without any issues", but Proton has become very, very good. There are some cases where games run better on Proton than on Windows (And vice versa of course). You can always dual boot and keep your Windows install, or get another SSD and install Linux Mint or Ubuntu to that and play around with it.
@@tirdkat6104 thanks. I'll give it a try
@@tirdkat6104 I wouldn't doubt games can run better on Proton than Windows, considering that Windows is so full to the brim with bloatware that it spends half of your hardware resources just sending telemetry data to Microsoft.
Using Windows is like getting the week's groceries using a Semi Truck. Ridiculously inefficient.
@@tirdkat6104 dual booting windows and linux definitely aged well
@@PanguinBoy2 This isn't the first time that a microsoft update breaks the Grub boot loader.
Half Life 3 will launch day one on SteamOS 4. You read it first here.
I thought that about the Steam Machines in 2015 🤡
But it'll be called HL 4 to keep the meme going.
AMD had BETTER change their mind and issue a fix for the 3000 series! They are in SUCH prime position to take over the mantle from Intel... DON'T mess this up team red.
Yeah they should fix 3000 as it's a major release
1000 and 2000 can remain unchanged... but 3000 was what Ryzen 1000 was supposed to be but 1000 was a bit rushed so everything until 3000 was more of an "early access" kind of deal
They should fix 3000 it's a major thing and most popular
For real..
1000-watt PSUs overkill yet I have a 1600-watt PSU EVGA PSU that I paid $150 for because it was being clearanced out at BestBuy.
Hey Brett! We are neighbors. I have a tech company here that I run out of my home. I do full component level repairs including liquid damage and motherboard repairs. I have all of the equipment to diagnose and repair circuits. I am about 4 miles from you in Mt.Lebanon. I'm not naming my business here, but I am in Mt.Lebanon and I run this business out of my home. Look me up if you need something done.
You can actually install a steam os-esque distro called "bazzite" while you wait. Its pretty much identical, except its based on fedora, as opossed to arch.
There's also ChimeraOS. I don't know what it's based on, but tbh that doesn't really matter for the use-case.
Ironically I am currently writing this from Bazzite, while planning to switch this PC to Nobara (also fedora based, but -- thank god -- not immutable). I learned my lesson. Don't use immutable distros (except good ones like nixos). Stick with ordinary Fedora, or something cooler like Void linux (my daily driver, can highly recommend, though maybe not for gaming).
On a handheld, or a living room pc I'd recommend bazzite too. But for your desktop gaming pc i would recommend 3 of the best gaming distros. Garuda, cachyOS or nobara
@@daxtheducknotaffiliated I use Debian based distros for the compatibility of apps. Many linux apps are designed for Ubuntu which is Debian based so they work seamlessly. I just wish apt was designed like dnf or yum as they have good UI for the terminal.
@@Gramini Chimera is also based on Arch.
Valve has a pretty great opportunity here to catch the eyes of people who don't use their gaming PC's for non-open source applications; even more so encouraging game developers to make ports for Linux. Even if you can't entirely switch to Linux it's more possible than ever to just use a secondary 250GB SSD for Windows to dual boot for any applications that you need that require Windows. Windows will never go away entirely for business reasons but making Linux more mainstream makes me hopeful that people will finally have enough of Microsoft's intrusion.
I was planning to upgrade when Intel released arrow lake but I guess I will have to go for AMD when their next X3D chip is released 🎉
I would love to get away from Windows. But it looks like only 10% of the games in my library support steam os.
Afaik proton would probably get it to like 90% with, on average, little to no performance impact.
Proton compatibility layer
@@tidjane2001 Never heard of it. I'll look into it. Thanks.
@@noname-oe9jy There's ProtonDB as a nice little community-run database for compatibility reports with Proton. Might be a helpful resource for you as well.
Go to steam options -> compatibility layer -> enable proton for all titles. Enjoy.
So the ''hacker'' needs to be behind my PC screen and manually install the ''backdoor'' on my CPU kernel?
Before I even watch the comment response section, or go back and look at the comments from the last couple of videos that Kyler hosted, I want to say I wasn't super warm to him at first, but I'm warming up, and if it means that you guys can take breaks more often and keep putting out videos, I'm all for it. It's a little bit of a shock anytime a RUclips channel makes a quick change to hosts, but in the end its healthier for the employees and that's what matters
I like all the staff they can all host but there is something special about you even if it’s a talking head video the voice at this point is iconic and what makes me think of UFD tech when I come to watch it. Everyone is doing a great job just my two cents keep on going strong and congrats on the 1 million subs
It's quite amusing how Microsoft and Society live in an abuse relationship. We know that it is bad and abusive, we hate it, yet we can't leave it because we need it.
Just like any other abusive relationship, we have to build the tools to escape it. With Linux it has taken a lot of time but it's approaching realstic levels of just being better and just working.
One day you get up and say fuck it.
I deleted my Riot account yesterday.
Enough is enough.
i know people say this every time an old windows version is about to go out of service, but linux is about to take off
The "reveal" events for PC hardware are cool and all, but honestly I wouldn't mind the practice shifting to something more like a digital press release.
The amount of money that is spent just for them to physically show off their newest toys and STILL give us misleading slides has got to be meme worthy. So much wasted time and capital for something that could effectively be an email.
And honestly, after gearing up to lay off 15K people, it might not be the best optics to do exactly what I stated above. Which is blowing a bunch of money on an event that, itself, doesn't really generate that much hype or market anticipation. It's the actual product, specs, and data shown off at the event that creates market hype. Just give out a bunch of detailed slides and press info to the media outlets and youtubers, and watch the free marketing flow.
I'm a few days late, but I love that UFD tech has made it to a place where full team efforts can happen for videos more easily!
That's a positive milestone for a growing channel :-)
Intel canceling reveal of Gen15 means they perhaps realized that reheated 13th already was faulty and reheating it twice in a row won't work. Maybe they'll come up with new architecture instead of generation.
Are you filming this on the John ?? .... lol
haha.. I thought the same thing. Very dedicated to delivering the news.
Its weird he doesn't address his cell-like location.
As a person who loves linux this is the best birthday gift I could ask for.
Not sure if others might have thought the same I had when this video started, it appeared like you were sitting on a toilet in a bathroom, making wonder if you were dual tasking and taking care of business while you were doing broadcast, almost felt a sense of relief as video went on to to display and see your pants were up, LOL, your might want to use another location for your next video.
I've got a system I built in 2020 with a 3090 and a 10700k. Not the latest and greatest, but this thing is still a freaking beast with no reason to upgrade. Not Windows 11 compatible so I'll be installing some flavor of Linux next year. Maybe SteamOS?
Why is your system not compatible? Seems more than ew enough. Even for systems that aren't, there are ways to install Windows 11 even if you don't have TPM 2 (You do need to at least have TPM 1)
If you only use that PC for gaming, something like Bazzite might be interesting to you. If you also use it regularly for "normal" computer stuff, maybe a normal Linux distro is a better fit (something like Mint, Ubuntu, TuxedoOS, Zorin, there-are-quite-a-lot-of-choices). Keep in mind that Steam and their compatibility stuff is not limited to the Deck or SteamOS; it works on pretty much anything.
@@tirdkat6104 Don't know why, never bothered looking into it. Microsoft just tells me "no good" and I'm not upgrading anything just for 11. Top of the line (for 2020) Asus Strix Z490 MB.
@@Gramini Thanks for the tip.
i find it odd is Intel paying people to find and report on an old AMD problem on some Old AMD CPU's a problem that you have to let someone install something in your Core. you have to open the Door and let them in. Yet to Fix a problem with Intel's New CPU's you have to Open the Door and install something in the Core, and Bios updates to turn your Intel 5.2 CPU in to a 4.3 what if there is a problem with intel also and doing this opens the door for it? we know AMD has had some problems but they also worked on getting it Fix
Did you ever have one of those vivid dreams that sometimes realize years later as a dejavoo in reality. I had a dream that I remember well, sitting on my PC and explaining someone that I have Steam OS and not Windows.
Wow they could at least patch Ryzen 3000 chips.
I love how you make videos in your laundry room and they are still better than most content on youtube
Intel microcode is an absolute disaster. Voltages through the roof, throttling, it's worse than the original bios.
Brett don't need no damn teleprompter.. Brett is a damn natural presenter and all around good guy!
The steam deck was the device that turned me into a full time linux user. I fell in love with linux a long time ago but, never saw it as an os that I could use on a daily basis but, it wasn't until I used steamOS that I realize that it was possible. Then after windows recall was announced and my windows install had nuked itself multiple times in the span of a few months. I decided to go full time linux and there hasn't been a day that I have regretted it.
The 13x / 14x issue is not a blip on their balance sheets. Their profit margins went from 25% to 12% to 3% YoY the last three years. They are on thin ice and the liability for having to replace _at minimum_ a quarter of all 13x and 14x CPUs will put their margin deep in the red. Their current cash reserves are also quite low.
From what i read about this sinkhole, it requires flashing a specific part of the chip code (not even the bios).
So it's not something an attacker can pull off remotely at all, it need physical access to the chip. Which means that if any consumer has this problem, it was done either at the factory or shop that assembled the computer. Where else can someone gain access to the cpu without you knowing?
Doesn't sound like a huge deal at all for domestic consumers. Servers of course need to watch for this kind of stuff, a lot of people handle them...
Wow! UFD Tech team do benchmark contents! More reviewers are always welcome to the ecosystem. Can't wait for "0x129" in UFD Teach team's perspective.
Oh hey! I never realized you were on Floatplane. I'll have to see if I have access to your stuff!
I'm still running a Threadripper 2950X, so upgrading to the 9000 series will be a welcome change... I'm running a 180W CPU.. lol
Windows may be too iconic to die out
windows isnt going to die!!! some people actuially do something else than play video games allday there is no way profesiaonal people stop use windows what will they use??? linux ??? HAHAHA nice joke continue dreaming
@@WolfSniperLetsplaysJokes on you. Linux is used by professionals all the time. The only thing that really locks people in to a particular OS is if they need to use a particular piece of software that is only available on that OS. Doesn't mean there isn't something similar on another OS, it just means they have to use that particular software where they work.
@@WolfSniperLetsplays I for one cannot stop using Windows for "profesiaonal"/work stuff. Reason being that I never used Windows for that. The joke's on you.
Professionals will use Linux?
Always have been.
@@WolfSniperLetsplays I will never understand why people get so tribal about software and brands and teams. Really arbitrary and pointless stuff. It's ok to like different things.
@@danielharvison7510its arbitrary and pointless to keep letting yourself get stabbed in the back by any one company too! but hey, it's the norm, so its fine, right?
if they can get VR support in steamos i'd gladly swap my gaming OS over from windows. Just not doing that atm as i use VR, a katwalk treadmill and other peripherals that just dont have software support outside of windows.
I dont use windows for anything but gaming (vr specifically as linux supports the windows games i play better than windows these days, most older titles)
The big problem with SteamOS is it still can't let me just play my entire steam library. Lack of anti cheat compatibility will put windows ahead for me until that's no longer an issue
Are you absolutely sure about that?
We just saw Crowdstrike shitstorm and I don't have slightest interest that some games install malware for anticheat, just waiting anticheat or OS update when everything is broken.
So I actually like that they don't work on Linux. I prefer to play games without malware.
Not fixing 3000 is a mixed bag to me. I'm ok with it in this case, but I hope they would do something if it was a more serious case.
So basically its not a real vulnerability... If you have that level access you can already do whatever you want including make things continue after OS reinstall.... It's like saying not locking a box inside your safe inside your locked house surrounded by security is a vulnerability. If someone bypassed ALL of that already you have a LOT more to worry about than a single machine and literally nothing would have stopped them doing whatever they want anyways.
I'm curious to see what the battlemage vs strix point mobile igpu battle will be like
DUDE BRETT MIGHT SWITCH TO LINUX THIS IS HYPE
Literally every single retro game is more comfy and better frame times on linux. It literally saved my rog ally. 30% more fps in Batman Arkham knight too.
With regard to installing steamOS on other devices: it drives my curiosity a little. What I'm hearing is that this is something that valve is supporting on their own which is interesting. Though, one thing that feels mentionable is that right now, vendors may still put together their own windows builds of things if they decide not to put efforts into steamOS
The thing I feel like would need to happen is some kind of support program for valve - if vendors want their devices added, there needs to be a system to tell them how to get them up & running. If there's desire from valve & there's desire from vendors, then it might be possible to have stronger support, but it's certainly something worth thinking about.
Kernel wise, it's not too much of a problem I bet, vendors need to establish drivers for the kernel itself, but another piece of the puzzle is if steamOS recognizes everything as well, so some coordination with everyone is going to be important
... Now I'm upset that I build a friend a Threadripper 1 system years back... The thing is a monster and he still can play anything current with it. A GPU refresh is needed for anything beyond 1440p and if he wants RT. We opted for a Vega 64 since he wanted a gaming and production (CAD stuff) PC for 1500€, so I decided he gets the mid range TR - was the best price/performance ratio at the time - and everything would be upgradable a few years down the line. I erred on so many fronts with that thing. Still a good PC, but the hoped for upgradability of the parts were kinda low.
Guy says he don't like the 95C temps for 7000 series cpu's but then happy to get 9000 series which is still 85*C so only 10*C difference.
7600x or 9600x under max load in Cinebench even with a 360mm Custom Loop Both will sit on or above 80c for entire test.
I´m sure this is a bathroom and you did some video magic to make the toilet look like a chair.
I would have guessed for a long time before I landed on Jerry Seinfeld. I However, it was a halfway decent Mickey Mouse.
What a HUGE L for team red bro.. and they have the audacity to say it's "outdated"... yet millions still uses said products.. makes complete sense when it comes to the severity of the situation. Rip my other PC, it has vanguard installed.. you already know they're pulling something like this..
It’s been my thought that Valve shouldn’t bother with a SteamDeck revision and should instead tailor SteamOS to other handhelds. Offer Asus maybe a $50 or $100 incentive for each Ally sold loaded with SteamOS that logs in to Steam. Valve can get out of the hardware game while SteamOS handhelds are sold at more competitive pricing that entices consumers into Steam’s ecosystem. It’s a win for Steam, OEMs, and consumers.
Chip foundries are hugely expensive affairs. I doubt people understand the cost and complexity. Trying to keep up with whoever is in the lead is very difficult and has sunk many chip makers in short order over the years.
SteamOS for desktop is something I would totally use. If it can do half of what windows can do, i would switch. IE, so long as I can use browsers, vscode, discord and whatnot, i'm in.
Thank you! Another person who is actually being rational about the Ryzen 9700X and 9600X. I'm on 3950X I was not going to spend stupid money upgrading from AM4 to AM5 when Zen 4 came out, just to get a maybe 5% gain at 4K. With a new AM5 mobo chipset coming out in a matter of months too, it is also irrational to buy Zen 4 even if it is cheaper than Zen 5. Plus, I like a lot of people are waiting for Zen 5 x3D to see what that brings. So all the noise is just overblown seeing the 9700X and 9600X are not engineered for gaming but productivity and if using 50% of the power to get the same performance as Zen 4 equivalents at lower release MSRP, then that is a plus. Fine AMD could have given them a bit more juice, but the rage is crazy. I find it funny reviewers will say well if you're spending a $1000 on a GPU then $600 extra to get the RTX 4090 is nothing. Yet they don't apply the same logic to the new chipset features coming with X870 for Zen 5.
Anyways, exciting news that you may soon be officially joining the Linux world when SteamOS is out for all systems. Been using Linux since exclusively 2016 and have not missed Windows in anyway
it still confuses me how the intel problem affects 13th and 14th gen it's like no one noticed the problem for a whole generation of cpus
When I run prime95 small ffts on my 13600kf it gets super hot and consumes about 300 Watts on stock BIOS settings after the newest MSI patch. That's a hotter than it ran before on stock settings. But the most annoying thing is that it does not reach 5.1 GHz on all P-Cores anymore ( It only reaches 4.6 GHz ish). Only after I undervolted it as far as I could I got it back on 5.1 GHz. I think they just increased the average voltage so all the already broken CPUs can run stable. But at the cost of maybe damaging them even more? (That is only speculation of course). And I know that prime95 is not my average workload but it still shows that they did crazy stuff here. At least when you run your CPU on stock settings.
The forced Windows 11 changeover is going to practically brick my PC. Steam OS either becomes available for all PCs or I stop buying/playing games. The frustration is no longer worth my time & energy.
Thanks Intel for my panic with my 13900k. Thanks AMD for my irritation with the three Ryzen 3000 series chips I have in my house. Ugh.
could you create long-form videos that are dedicated to reese doing tech deals? As a budget baller, that would be very nice.
Hey you can already have a nearly perfect copy of SteamOS with Linux distros like Bazzite OS on other gaming handhelds
Threadripper 3000 should be kept up to date, lot of servers out there still using those!
Intel liked the recent adoption of that programming language in the Linux community so much that they decided to implement it on a chip level basis.
*It's called Rust, BTW.*
I’ll continue using windoews. Tried multiple Distros and prefer window over all of them
Hooray, SteamOS on the Ally, etc will rock and Valve said in a developer FAQ they were looking at bringing the Deck to Australia (via a partner as Valve never sells HW directly here) but never did so.
I mean not updating older CPUs with new features is ok, but not fixing those security issues is kinda fucked up!
Bret, what do you think would be the next few hurdles if steam OS was able to be installed on an average PC? I think AMD video card driver support with all the windows features may struggle.
Brett in a bathroom sitting on a toilet...
Truly Brettaking moment
Manufacturers saying they won't fix stuff because it's outside of their support window may be "not great vibes" but it's also financial reality. Like, what should they say if somebody discovers a critical hardware flaw in a Thunderbird generation processor? Are they obligated to fix it despite that CPU being 20 years old? I wouldn't think so. So the question isn't "should there be a cutoff date", the question is specifically when, and that's not based on vibes: it's based on how long important customers hang on to old chips.
No one using 20 year old CPUs. A lot of people are using 5 year old CPUs. Someone probably has a graph for this, probably AMD.
5 3600 is one of if not the most popular amd CPU which is STILL BEING SOLD, of course they should fix it
@@vinumsabbathi5288 Still being sold by AMD? Or just retailers unloading old stock. Big difference.
Also my point wasn't to say that the 3000 specifically should be excluded, my point was more to raise awareness that there WILL be a cutoff point, and people need to acknowledge that
Lol ryzen 1st gen is not 20 years old especially 3rd gen which a lot of people still use. This is just a BS excuse from AMD.
I made the switch from Windows to Linux about 4 months ago on my desktops and glad i did. Out of my 300 games I can't play about 3 of them because of the kernel level anti cheat they require
So that means I spent 250$ on a cpu that could get malware and they will just refuse to fix their fuckup?
ETA prime reviews product even before companies announces it 🤣
He is their announcement. All he does is advertise.
I do want this to get really good. The only reason I have a Windows PC is for gaming, all the rest of my computing is done on my main Mac and Linux systems. I LOATH windows, but it's basically a requirement for modern games. Make 99% of the games I play work with SteamOS and I'll happily get rid of Windows for good.
I mean not updating older cpu with new features is ok, but not fixing those security issues is kinda fucked up!
I picked up a Steam Deck because it runs Steam OS AND Windows 11 in an affordable hand held package. Not played any games on it though.
Plot twist: These chip manufacturers expose their own vulnerabilities on older platforms forcing companies to buy the newer ones.
Kinda makes sense