No one talks about the X-Y band, a telephone line buried deep underground that went around the country, including Police Stations, it was a one way telephone line to send out orders to the regions. No reply could be made, you just listened. It was tested around 11pm every Sunday.
I have been to the bunker a few times and it’s absolutely fascinating. Mike’s voice can be heard on the audio wands that give you a commentary of what you see as you move through the layers. Definitely stepping back in time when you see some of the technology that was installed back in the day. The diesel tanks held enough fuel to power the place for 3 months. Great video !!
I'm an engineer by profession, when I was an apprentice who worked on the building of Chilmark Bunker, an amazing place and massive learning curve, we had at the time sign the official secret act, with time that no longer applies 😀
@@eliotmansfieldYup, signing it is just a way of ensuring that individuals are aware of the law and acknowledging such. No "I didn't know" mitigation defence.
“Threads” absolutely terrified the s***e out of me. It seems so odd now to look back and realise how accepting we were of the Doomsday Clock and the prospect of nuclear war erupting. I always said if the sirens sounded I’d just go out into the street and wait for it, because there’d be no point in living afterwards!
@@денисбаженов-щ1б Thanks for responding. I'm also guessing that the variables must also take into account the magnitude of the explosion. Hiroshima was 20 kilotons. Modern nuclear weapons are in the mega-ton range (Tsar Bomba was 50mt! although mercifully never used). But the initial blast would be quick and painless compared to what would follow for those who survived. The film 'Threads' was (and still is) considered to be the most authentic representation of this nightmare scenario. Let's pray that our Gods don't let it happen. Peace be with you.
I have TREAD, THE DAY AFTER, and BY DAWNS EARLY LIGHT. The still give me the shivers when I watch any of them. They say that The Day after film at the end of the film, that this film does not actually represent what could actually happen in a FULL scale nuke attack. I would quite agree with that statement, as with the way Nukes have moved on in technology since Hiroshima and and the other place I can't spell LOL, it would take about 6 very high yield nukes to wipe the UK of the map. I do worry about what's going on with Russia and Ukraine what with Putin keep mentioning he will use battle field nukes if the west got involved and we are involved by giving weapons to Ukraine, he might just carry out his threat, so IF he does I will stand outside my back garden with a good old British Cuppa and kiss my ass goodbye, Might as well.
The story about the local pointing the way to the secret bunker reminds me of my friend when he was in the TA having to deliver to our local 'secret' bunker. He too got lost and had to ask for the MOD 'storage facility' and the local said "Oh, it's easy to find the fallout bunker mate, you just follow the good roads and avoid the potholed ones and you get straight there". I remember exploring in the woods behind the place as a child in the late 1960s or early 1970s and being chased off by armed guards.
It's an interesting museum to visit, I haven't been for many years now. I used to go about 3 times a year for events held there and met Mike on many occasions, he was always a friendly bloke who knew he was custodian of a special location.
I went there once with the scouts a couple years ago and stayed the night. We had a great time exploring the bunker by ourselves. But I wouldn’t recommend going to the toilet in the middle of the night and walk past the partly lit medical ward with all the manikins.
I've visited The secret nuclear bunker in Ongar Essex every year for years, not only is it a functional bunker, there's also an outdoor rope climb and archery for adults and kids and an operational hot and cold food canteen. On the bunker's grounds also resides a paintball range and go kart track too. Parts of the bunker's massive rooms can be hired out for private events. Mike's a great cheerful character, always happy to explain how things work in around the bunker to inquisitive minds, that's if you can catch him standing still long enough to ask him. If you haven't visited the Bunker, I'd highly recommend it, it's a good day out for the whole family.
I volunteered and ran tours down at my local RSG (9 - Drakelow) - it was formerly a WW2 shadow factory too so attached to a couple of miles of tunnels in addition to the government office stuff. it's turned into wine storage now which is a shame but a few volunteers are using a small portion of it to create a mini Kelvedon style museum.
Sarah Agha does a wonderful job on this story, which really needs to be told for the next generation. I am glad she mentioned R. Briggs' book 'When The Wind Blows'.. This made a v great impression upon me, back in the day. Well done. Nice one Sarah and team. 🌟👍
Wonderful documentary. Good to see Julie too from Atomic Hobo! Although, I can't get past the current steward of Kelvindon Hatch bearing a resemblance to Desmond Llewellyn.. Being shown around by Q from the Bond movies!
A very interesting view of the idea that a nuclear war is survivable & the use of bunkers to govern what was thought would be left of the UK afterwards. I was a tiny cog in this, as I was a member of the Royal Oberserver Corps. In my post - one of the many small reporting bunkers - we weren't under any illusions of surviving. The "protective" kit we had was... a duffel coat. A Naval duffel coat, to be precise. One of them in my post was dated 1944. We had no NBC suits or respirators. In my post, we generally reckoned we wouldn't even survive 24 hours IF our bunker wasn't destroyed when the bombs detonated.
@mick parry I continue to be fascinated with the ROC posts. What was your motivation for joining? I liken it to St John Ambulance, kind of reassuringly pointless - you clearly had no illusions that you would survive for much longer than at home. What did friends and family think? I studied the Cold War in early 2000 and could not quite grasp how the USSR and the collective West could go from fighting nazi Germany to nearly fighting each other.... and actually fighting in the case of various proxy wars - it motivated me to study Russian to hear the other side. I visited the Taganskaya bunker in Moscow, ex hardened telephone exchange - much like the Kingsway, Guardian and Anchor exchanges in London, Manchester and Birmingham.
@Liam O'Donohue Apologies for the slow reply. I only just saw yours. I joined because I wasn't able to join the Armed Forces as had a spinal cord injury before i could join. My family all served - my father was in the British Army for 22 years, my Grandfather fought in WW1 from beginning to the end & my cousins also served, one in the Falklands conflict. In point of fact, I had to get a letter from my doctor that I was able to use a ladder to get in & out of a post. A unique distinction as a medical wasn't needed for the ROC. My friends & family didn't really have an opinion as I didn't tell them much about it - it was, if not secret, then certainly secretive at the time.
@Liam O'Donohue Having thought about it some more, part of the reason for joining - probably a large part - was that if nuclear war had happened I'd have been doing something, not just sitting waiting. The training also taught me a lot about what nuclear warheads could - & couldn't - do & the effects of flash, blast, etc. Also, the different types of detonation, i.e. ground, air & water (surface & subsurface) bursts & the difference in effects caused. It was (is) very interesting. And utterly terrifying.
Fantastic documenrary. Very well done. I was with the RAF in 1983 when we came down to the bone, a holocaust was averted by Stanislav Petrov. The USSR had a Computer prob that showed that the west had launched ICBMs, the Kremlin was almost about to launch when he stepped in and stopped it
They did not build it as a refuge for central government. It was an RAF installation, part of the ROTOR network. When it became redundant it was then put to use a UKWMO Control until eventually became a regional govt bunker. The refuge for central govt was at Corsham in Wiltshire.
So they could ALL starve afterwards? If a few million are still alive a year after the attack then there would be enough food for them. But if 40+ million are still alive one year in , they ALL starve.
@@jimjones3286 explain ? How would he have got into a bunker? He was not a politician , or a civil servant , or had any kind of admin role? DJ is hardly an essential occupation.
In 1976 at 18 years old i had to go to Kelvedon Hatch to fix a Pye base station in a small building at the bottom of that mast. I could tell there was something unusual and special about that place, but had no idea there was a nuclear bunker underneath. It felt like a cross between a telephone exchange and an RAF base. Something about the style and the infrastructure. It was obviously more than just a comms site.
Ant 1980 thank you for the warning! I live close by Kelvedon Hatch and am planning on going to see it in the very near future. Soil temp at around 6 feet is roughly 55 F I believe and going deeper in theory should get warmer as you go close to the Mantle, so it can't be any colder than that , but 55 F is still chilly lol
As someone who was trained to fight a warmed up Cold War (1970s-1980s) this film brought back some odd memories, particularly the boiled sweets. I remember 1983 was a particularly nervous year for the military and the general public seemed to be largely unaware The manikins of the reincarnated Maggie Thatcher in this museum would put me off visiting the place; I spent an afternoon with that particular woman back in the early 1980s and that was enough thanks. The official Cold War Museum at RAF Cosford (Telford, Shropshire) is a stunning place to visit, lots of social commentary as well as fascinating military hardware housed in an architectural masterpiece. Please remember that Mr Putin still has thousands of thermonuclear weapons and a disquieting number of those are pointed in our direction. The idea that the Cold War actually ended is perhaps moot, maybe it is just different and almost as worrying.
@@RandomRetr0 Mrs Thatcher was bad enough to be around but there was another Tory grandee who I thought was even more personally unpleasant, Leon Britten! Luckily I never came across Norman Tebbit.
@@welshskies we could do with Margret Thatcher now Britain would be a very different place and definitely no woke or liberal bullshit sane people have to endure on a daily bases
I was a member of the now defunct Royal Observer Corps in the late 70s. We regularly held weekends exercises on a wartime footing plotting fictitious detonations around the country and predicting fallout. Horrificaly realistic.
When I visited in 2019 the recorded tour said that there would be a 'ring of steel' around the bunker as the nuclear threat was being deployed, half to keep people out who could be seekng shelter, and half to keep those already inside in, in case they had second thoughts and wanted to face the annihalation with loved one's trapped on the outside. I recommend a visit.
Fascinating documentary, and rather well timed. My mum always tells stories of the time when people were practicing in case of a nuclear attack. My nanna used to have drills with my mum and her siblings where they had to put things around, and get under the table. I quite often giggle at the idea of them practicing for any kind of bomb and expecting to survive with a kitchen table surrounded by other household items. I can never work out if my Nan would have thought the table was stronger than the house, or whether it was to protect them from debris. It must have been terrifying for them. I think it’s clear if there was a nuclear attack, we wouldn’t survive it, let’s just hope the superpowers remember those three key words “mutually assured destruction!”
RE: get under the table It was pure fear porn theater, like they did with these ridiculous face diapers against the monster virus. By pumping up fear they can control the majority and get what they want. Nukes are pure fear porn. When was the last time you saw one go off?
Threads was horrifying to see as a child! It seared the fear into my mind too. I was around 8 years old when some idiot that was supposed to run a silent test of the siren infrastructure actually set them all off, for the entire north of the county. It was early, before school, and I remember the sinking feeling and screaming at my parents to take us to the bunker... I knew there was one, just not where exactly, and it would have been at least 7 miles away and we didn't have a car. My mum thoughtfully tuned into the local radio station which was already issuing apologetic notices on behalf of the county council. The sound of those sirens chills me to the bone to this day.
We used to have an air raid siren on top of the block of flats near us. I think that test went off everywhere. I live down south, it was the height of the cold war back in the 80's. On a hot summers day, clear blue sky and the thing went off. I remember reading at school about Hiroshima and the same weather when that all went south. I was terrified and waited for the flash and the heat. Total madness and we are closer to that now than ever before. Sorry, keep it light 😂
What hardly anybody realises, is that the nuclear threat was never completely removed, only reduced. Today, it seems the threat has returned, but in a slightly different configuration.
@@madanto2394 I'm no fan of Putin, but NATO and the US also share resposibility for what's going on. Then there are N.Korea, and Iran, both have threatened to use it.
I loved my time at Kelvedon hatch, but A) The first atomic bomb was dropped at a quarter past eight and not a quarter past nine and B) The explosion footage afterwards was from the Nagasaki bomb.
I live only seven or Eight miles from the bunker at Kelvedon Hatch, and I've never been there, but now I have decided to visit as it look fascinating! I'm really looking forward to it.
Thank you for an excellent documentary! One thing I do recall from visiting the bunker some 20 years ago is the bucket of cyanide hidden in the basement. It was said to be for the hundreds of civil servants only if conditions outside the bunker would not sustain life. To quote Colonel Douglas Macgregor: “Make peace, you fools!”
My Grandfather was based at Kelvedon Hatch underground unit during his RAF service in the 1950s, the bunker wasnt built for the government at first. After the RAF no longer required it, the role changed for the Government use. The people in the area knew that the 'bunker' was there, they saw it being built. What they did not know was what went on inside the bunker. The bunker was part of ROTOR for the south east of the UK, RAF Fighter Command, Missle Command and Anti Aircraft Command. It was manned during the height of the Cold War. I still wonder with the quality of History Hit TV, at no time was Britain reliant on American fighters intercepting the Russian 'Bears'. The Hawker Hunter, that entered service in 1954, had a maximum cieling of 50,000ft, while the Russian Bear Tu-95 had a maximum cieling of 45,000. The British aircraft industry led the way for early Jets, even the Gloster Meteor could fly at 43,000ft, and the Gloster Javelin could reach 54,000ft. The EE Lightining entering service in 1960, could reach the height of the Russian bombers, much faster than any other fighter, it was basically a rocket. Its weakness was its fuel capacity, it could reach the required height, but would need to immediatley refuel once reaching it. Are we really meant to believe the RAF, did not have an aircraft capable of intercepting the Russian TU-95 for eight years? The RAF was the ariel defence of our country, and was tasked with dropping our nuclear weapons if the ballon went up. What would of been better for public moral, telling them they had a chance of survival, or that it was pointless? The Government did not build bunkers for its self, they built radar and communication bunkers for the RAF, that once they were no longer required, were given over to civil defence use by the Government. When the bunkers were built, they were only as good as the day they were designed. The bunkers that were built, would of been manned in the build up to the collapse of international relationships by the Government. The RAF manned Kelvedon Hatch throughout its use by the RAF, with attached Royal Artillery secondments. RAF personnel were regularly tested, to see if they were not discussing sensitive information. On the coach or truck from RAF North Weald, there would often be a penetration test done, by a new man getting on board and asking questions. Anyone that gave away information, would be taken away. Having lived through the Blitz on London, his RAF service and Army service, my Grandpa was mentally reassured by the MAD status that went on throughout the Cold War.
To be fair, they state that it was a ROTOR bunker in the video - you wouldn't be able to complain about the American fighters goof if they hadn't. Secondly, you are right about the fighter intercept claim, but that claim came from the owner and custodian of the site who is not a historian and does get things wrong (notably that the bunker would have been THE government bunker in the even of war - it wouldn't, that was Corsham. The rooms prepared in the final phase of development at Kelvedon Hatch were only in the event that Corsham was inaccessible or if a new PM had to be designated and therefore operate out of KH). My point is that if they are guilty of anything it's believing what he has to say and not fact-checking him. This has been a problem with history documentaries for a very long time - HH are by no means unique. Even the best documentary series from the 1960s-80s got things wrong. You yourself are wrong too, I'm afraid - the government absolutely did build bunkers for itself, Corsham being built within an existing tunnel network, yes, but it still had to be built. Others were built from scratch e.g. Chilmark - look on SubBrit. Not to mention that even converting existing structures to SRCs or RGHQs involved a lot of construction and cost. Not that I personally think the government shouldn't have had them - they should.
@@skepticalbadger Yes the "government" very much built the bunkers for themselves...... the bungalow/farmhouse disguised as a bunker gaurd house(once you've seen one you've seen them all) would not have misled an attacking army. These bunkers were quickly reappropriated to enable those in power to keep hold of that power/control. The Panorama episode "If the Bomb Drops" has interviews with some of the civil servants who'd be in these bunkers, and there's a real Dr Strangelove vibe.
Tons of jewels displayed in the video. These are just a few that I caught ;) 22:58, 35:09 Creed teletype model 444, lots of them throughout the video. 35:41 On top of the cabinet in the back. Telegraph Distortion Measuring Set made by ATE, local and remote unit for testing telex lines. 35:09, left side, Creed 6s mechanical paper tape reader, with some paper tape perforator behind, that I cannot identify 35:18 British Telecom "Cheetah" 87C/32K Telex from 1984, you can see the tape reader immeditely below the screen. 40:44 At the front, a Commodore 8250 40:44 & 41:29 At the very back, it seems a back view of a Commodore 8296 or similar (a roundy design)
Those "Protect and Survive" ads on telly absolutely terrified me as a child in the early 80's as there was a few moments when the threat was growing but luckily, things calmed down.
Threads was scary as hell. And when The Wind Blows, even the Protect and Survive was scary as a kid. I remember being told about the 4 minute warning but everyone said they didn't know what that would be. Much like in the episode of Only Fools & Horses The Russians are Coming, great episode. There is always something I find strangely cosy about these bunkers.
Cities across the United States had similar, but markedly smaller bunkers. Two of the largest I'm aware of were in Portland Oregon, and Greenbrier West Virginia (Greenbrier was for the U.S. Congress and Presidential Cabinet). In New Orleans there was one for the City Government, located underground on West End Blvd. that I would see everyday as a child. I actually had the opportunity to visit it and get the two penny tour one year before it was abandoned in 1987. Now no one hardly knows it was there... it's covered over with condominiums. It could "house" approximately 100 people, had a radio/TV station, infirmary, armory, kitchen. It was staffed 24/7 from 1958 to 1987
The new london bunker is at the end of a underground tunnel that they made when they built the channel tunnel they used that cover to removal all the spoil and it is massive....
Been there and its pretty interesting but years before that, some 23 or so years ago, we used to park our cars in the access tunnel to smoke joints, was a tight fit with the wheels slightly up the wall of the tube and mirrors pulled in lol. This bunker was replaced and it was not that bunkers were just closed, the new one is accessed from an unmarked slip road on the M25 and is still operational as far as i know.
MOLD Clywyd North Wales, nuclear bunker under the fire station. When they washed the engines water dripped through the ceiling, of the two blast doors, one was substantial but the money ran out and the second was a UPVC front door.
I played paintball in the woods near the bunker back in 1991 just before then end of the cold war and the bunker was still in operation. During a break we bimbeld over and was told to go away by a military guard who was hanging around near the bungalow. We went back to the paintball site for a brew.
I've just found a 'nuclear war bunker' near where I live in Kent, UK. Probably can only see the vent shafts and not go in, but hey-ho. Excellent video! Amazing how many hundreds of millions was spent on the bunker system - and never used! Presumably they thought it was worth it at the time. Well, they did
I think the doors against the wall shelter was more intended to make sure everyone was buried nice and neatly at home easing the risk of anarchy and disease.
Considering the UK has at the most 20 minutes from a Russian nuke launch to hitting the UK, Kelvedon hatch location is a bit far for a helicopter to reach with the PM in the time given. And thats not taking into account a 6 minute time for the Russian missile launch, detection and course plot. now you're down to 14 minutes to get the PM out of London. flawed plan.
Rather misleading title. Kelvedon was not as claimed the emergency seat of government for the UK. It had a very minor role as the GLC emergency hq and later as the regional seat of government for that sector of the Uk. Central government had much more hardened relocation sites to hide in.
Quite right too, this was an SRC, war room, the main governmental bunker was over at rudloe manor, corsham, burlington road, or whatever secret name it was using, l went to the main bunker, in fact, as a member of the UKWMO, l was stationed in kelvedon hatch on many a weekend, so, stop bigging this bunker up, lol, that farmer should know better, mind you, it beats farming, l suppose, lol
@@g1egz I wish these documentaries would actually talk to people like yourself who saw these places in operation and know how the system of continuity of ops and government really worked. I have some friends who worked at Rudloe back in the 70s and 80s and all i can say is if it was left to them to run and repopulate the destroyed UK we would have been in serious trouble. They are all pensioners now but still mad as hatters.
Agreed. Whilst that may have been a backup function it was never the intention to house the central gov't or prime minister there so that's stretching the facts a little. However I guess perpetuating the myth is probably a wry marketing ploy for the owners.
Part of what makes this so chilling is that this danger is still very real. With everything going on with Russia and China rn, we're arguably on the verge of a new cold war. The CDC I believe has a modern, updated page on how to survive a nuclear strike and what to do in the event of nuclear war. I'm sure the British government also has a similar page. Terrifying times then and now.
It's interesting to consider just exactly what would happen post-detonation. If we use COVID as a litmus test, on the one hand the vast, vast majority of people (in the UK, and I'm guessing in the US and Canada too) complied with the orders to isolate themselves in their households, patiently await further advice from the government/National Health Service etc. But on the other, we saw some genuinely selfish behaviour, with people hording (remember the toilet roll apocalypse of 2020 lol) stripping shelves of non-perishable goods fuel and medication, refusing to check-in on elderly and vulnerable neighbours, and overwhelming hospitals/ambulance services with minor ailments and injuries, despite us being told the healthcare system was at breaking point. We're a very charitable nation, and we will always do what we can to help other countries in their time of need (Ukraine conflict being a prime example) but I do wonder if it came to it, would both the government, and the surviving public, be quite as proactive to help their fellow human if catastrophe struck on our doorstep...?
This isn’t a bunker it’s a cellar. 15 feet below ground? A Hydrogen bomb leaves a 200 m deep crater. A bunker buster goes through this bunker like a knife through butter. If prince Philip, ever visited this place, it must just have been to have laughed. The moment that antenna above started transmitting the bunker below would have been discovered and everyone would be vaporised shortly thereafter
Pity the BBC Wartime Broadcasting Service (WTBS) studio at 44' looks more like a store room for old broadcast kit than the actual studio setup. The rack of kit behind the presenter is a genuine BBC Deferred Facilities (DF) RSG studio rack. But no way would all that kit be in the studio. The essence of the WTBS DF kit was simplicity as, in the event, keeping it going was the key. "Chewing gum and string" was the term mentioned to me by those chosen to be part of the WTBS.
There is still an air raid siren on top of the fire station where I live outside Glasgow as I live only about 30 miles from the nuclear submarine base at faslane on the Clyde I don’t think the governments new text warning will help me in anyway 😂
I think if MAD ever became a reality I would want to be as close as possible to a major city to die early. There is no reason to survive, our society would be sent back decades or centuries. Communication technology wouldn't work, our food would be contaminated and all our families and friends would be either killed or missing in the panic. Albert Einstein: "I know not with what weapons WW3 will be fought, but WW4 will be fought with sticks and stones"
This is a example of what goes on behind our backs when we are not looking The rich and powerful will always ensure there own survival andlet the rest of us perish have no doubt about that?
Makes one wonder what the replacement site looks like today. It's also hilarious how much attention they evidently paid to law and order and food supplies for all the survivors who would never have survived because they weren't in radiation-proof underground shelters with air filtration. The only likely survivors would have been in those bunkers. Government with no one to govern.
I'm glad I didn't have to watch 'Threads' as a three-year old, but I remember as a kid in Greater London in the Sixties listening to the WWII sirens going off, and thinking I've got four minutes to live (this was the folklore about how long you had to prepare from incoming hydrogen bombs.) I used to count to two hundred and forty, and I was still there... It was the monthly siren test, but I never got used to them, a month is a long time when you're a kid. Bring back the sirens, people take note of them, unlike electronic drivel!
An abandoned bunker isn't going to be much use really. Without the hugely energy intensive air filtration system, you would be at considerable risk of airborne contamination. Very few have even remotely functional systems, only those in current official occupation, and good luck gaining entry! The ROTOR era bunkers were really only glorified bomb shelters with some nods to fallout air filtration. The "blast doors" are comically flimsy due to the bunkers not offering protection against the overpressure experienced in a nuclear blast as they were in effect unsealed. On the emergency exit, there aren't any, only gas doors for airflow control. Add to this, these early bunkers were from an era of kiloton yield air dropped munitions, as opposed to the potential multi mega-tonne ballistic devices, probably not even desirable to survive.
Now that the exact GPS coordinates of this facility is no secret the only question is if the structure can withstand the Khinsall missile which dives at 7 times the speed of sound.
The section on Tim Berners-Lee is a bit confused, I’m afraid. The internet was based on DARPANET, an American initiative for survivable communications during the Cold War. The World Wide Web, which TBL is credited with creating, is the hyperlink method where you can click on links to go to sites and documents.
No one talks about the X-Y band, a telephone line buried deep underground that went around the country, including Police Stations, it was a one way telephone line to send out orders to the regions. No reply could be made, you just listened. It was tested around 11pm every Sunday.
Their was one at Blunham beds,
forgive my ignorance, but was that what carried the signal to the old ticking attack warning system (was it Handel or something?)
i have a video on my channel of them tunnels your talking about Birmingham ones
It was actually 11am not 11pm on a Sunday.
The government wouldn't get nowhere near it today. Would still be stuck on the M25 when the missiles hit.
😂 hahaha hahaha ha lol hahaha 😂 ffs ahahahaha awwww that was funny ur right tho
They would declare the motorways to be essential service routes , so there would be no traffic jams because only government vehicles would be on them
@@patdbean plus most likely they would have relocated prime Minister to bunker as threat of nuclear war increased.
I prefer the Russian model thanks
@@des_smith7658 what Russian modle?
I have been to the bunker a few times and it’s absolutely fascinating. Mike’s voice can be heard on the audio wands that give you a commentary of what you see as you move through the layers. Definitely stepping back in time when you see some of the technology that was installed back in the day. The diesel tanks held enough fuel to power the place for 3 months. Great video !!
Whod want her that voice horrible
Mr Parish is a very engaging and formative gentleman. Top man.
I'm an engineer by profession, when I was an apprentice who worked on the building of Chilmark Bunker, an amazing place and massive learning curve, we had at the time sign the official secret act, with time that no longer applies 😀
Everyone is bound by the osa, regardless of whether you have signed it.
@@eliotmansfieldYup, signing it is just a way of ensuring that individuals are aware of the law and acknowledging such. No "I didn't know" mitigation defence.
The powers of the act have no specified duration and you don't have to sign it to be bound by it.
“Threads” absolutely terrified the s***e out of me. It seems so odd now to look back and realise how accepting we were of the Doomsday Clock and the prospect of nuclear war erupting. I always said if the sirens sounded I’d just go out into the street and wait for it, because there’d be no point in living afterwards!
Well the doomsday clock is still ticking and its the closest to midnight it has ever been, and look at us all watching a youtube video!
@@денисбаженов-щ1б Thanks for responding. I'm also guessing that the variables must also take into account the magnitude of the explosion. Hiroshima was 20 kilotons. Modern nuclear weapons are in the mega-ton range (Tsar Bomba was 50mt! although mercifully never used). But the initial blast would be quick and painless compared to what would follow for those who survived. The film 'Threads' was (and still is) considered to be the most authentic representation of this nightmare scenario. Let's pray that our Gods don't let it happen. Peace be with you.
@@денисбаженов-щ1б If this nightmare ever becomes real, I'm coming to live with you..!
@@денисбаженов-щ1б Does it make it creepier for anyone else the notion that COVID lockdowns might have "prepared" us for nuclear war?
I have TREAD, THE DAY AFTER, and BY DAWNS EARLY LIGHT.
The still give me the shivers when I watch any of them.
They say that The Day after film at the end of the film, that this film does not actually represent what could actually happen in a FULL scale nuke attack.
I would quite agree with that statement, as with the way Nukes have moved on in technology since Hiroshima and and the other place I can't spell LOL, it would take about 6 very high yield nukes to wipe the UK of the map.
I do worry about what's going on with Russia and Ukraine what with Putin keep mentioning he will use battle field nukes if the west got involved and we are involved by giving weapons to Ukraine, he might just carry out his threat, so IF he does I will stand outside my back garden with a good old British Cuppa and kiss my ass goodbye, Might as well.
The story about the local pointing the way to the secret bunker reminds me of my friend when he was in the TA having to deliver to our local 'secret' bunker. He too got lost and had to ask for the MOD 'storage facility' and the local said "Oh, it's easy to find the fallout bunker mate, you just follow the good roads and avoid the potholed ones and you get straight there". I remember exploring in the woods behind the place as a child in the late 1960s or early 1970s and being chased off by armed guards.
That part about following the good roads made me smile, lol 🍻
It's an interesting museum to visit, I haven't been for many years now. I used to go about 3 times a year for events held there and met Mike on many occasions, he was always a friendly bloke who knew he was custodian of a special location.
Blimey! I went once and that was enough. What kind of events did they hold there?
@@racheldemain1940 larp based on the TV series Stargate
I went there once with the scouts a couple years ago and stayed the night. We had a great time exploring the bunker by ourselves. But I wouldn’t recommend going to the toilet in the middle of the night and walk past the partly lit medical ward with all the manikins.
@@mehf649 I did a hike to there as an explorer scout and stayed the night 15 odd years ago. The medical ward was definitely an eerie place.
It's always nice to know the people that caused nuclear war will be just fine
I've visited The secret nuclear bunker in Ongar Essex every year for years, not only is it a functional bunker, there's also an outdoor rope climb and archery for adults and kids and an operational hot and cold food canteen. On the bunker's grounds also resides a paintball range and go kart track too. Parts of the bunker's massive rooms can be hired out for private events. Mike's a great cheerful character, always happy to explain how things work in around the bunker to inquisitive minds, that's if you can catch him standing still long enough to ask him. If you haven't visited the Bunker, I'd highly recommend it, it's a good day out for the whole family.
I went there with my school in year 6 I an near Southend and I had never thought we had a bunker in Essex until then
I volunteered and ran tours down at my local RSG (9 - Drakelow) - it was formerly a WW2 shadow factory too so attached to a couple of miles of tunnels in addition to the government office stuff. it's turned into wine storage now which is a shame but a few volunteers are using a small portion of it to create a mini Kelvedon style museum.
Sarah Agha does a wonderful job on this story, which really needs to be told for the next generation. I am glad she mentioned R. Briggs' book 'When The Wind Blows'.. This made a v great impression upon me, back in the day. Well done. Nice one Sarah and team. 🌟👍
Easy on the eye too. Id be in bunker with her
Wonderful documentary. Good to see Julie too from Atomic Hobo! Although, I can't get past the current steward of Kelvindon Hatch bearing a resemblance to Desmond Llewellyn.. Being shown around by Q from the Bond movies!
A very interesting view of the idea that a nuclear war is survivable & the use of bunkers to govern what was thought would be left of the UK afterwards. I was a tiny cog in this, as I was a member of the Royal Oberserver Corps. In my post - one of the many small reporting bunkers - we weren't under any illusions of surviving. The "protective" kit we had was... a duffel coat. A Naval duffel coat, to be precise. One of them in my post was dated 1944. We had no NBC suits or respirators. In my post, we generally reckoned we wouldn't even survive 24 hours IF our bunker wasn't destroyed when the bombs detonated.
@mick parry I continue to be fascinated with the ROC posts. What was your motivation for joining?
I liken it to St John Ambulance, kind of reassuringly pointless - you clearly had no illusions that you would survive for much longer than at home. What did friends and family think?
I studied the Cold War in early 2000 and could not quite grasp how the USSR and the collective West could go from fighting nazi Germany to nearly fighting each other.... and actually fighting in the case of various proxy wars - it motivated me to study Russian to hear the other side.
I visited the Taganskaya bunker in Moscow, ex hardened telephone exchange - much like the Kingsway, Guardian and Anchor exchanges in London, Manchester and Birmingham.
@Liam O'Donohue Apologies for the slow reply. I only just saw yours. I joined because I wasn't able to join the Armed Forces as had a spinal cord injury before i could join. My family all served - my father was in the British Army for 22 years, my Grandfather fought in WW1 from beginning to the end & my cousins also served, one in the Falklands conflict. In point of fact, I had to get a letter from my doctor that I was able to use a ladder to get in & out of a post. A unique distinction as a medical wasn't needed for the ROC. My friends & family didn't really have an opinion as I didn't tell them much about it - it was, if not secret, then certainly secretive at the time.
@@k1200ltse thanks for the reply.
I am coming to understand the thought process behind volunteering for this kind of duty.
@Liam O'Donohue Having thought about it some more, part of the reason for joining - probably a large part - was that if nuclear war had happened I'd have been doing something, not just sitting waiting. The training also taught me a lot about what nuclear warheads could - & couldn't - do & the effects of flash, blast, etc. Also, the different types of detonation, i.e. ground, air & water (surface & subsurface) bursts & the difference in effects caused. It was (is) very interesting. And utterly terrifying.
Fantastic documenrary. Very well done. I was with the RAF in 1983 when we came down to the bone, a holocaust was averted by Stanislav Petrov. The USSR had a Computer prob that showed that the west had launched ICBMs, the Kremlin was almost about to launch when he stepped in and stopped it
They did not build it as a refuge for central government. It was an RAF installation, part of the ROTOR network. When it became redundant it was then put to use a UKWMO Control until eventually became a regional govt bunker. The refuge for central govt was at Corsham in Wiltshire.
This place is well worth a visit. Absolutely shocked when I walked into that house and what was behind the facade. The place is vast. Very chilling.
I wonder if its the inspiration for resident evil.
Much of the contents and commentary are spurious to its purpose I'm afraid. There's rather a lot of "embellishment" shall we say.
They didn't bother building enough bunkers for anyone else. thanks UK govt.
So they could ALL starve afterwards? If a few million are still alive a year after the attack then there would be enough food for them. But if 40+ million are still alive one year in , they ALL starve.
While people like jimmy saville wouldve been taken care of.
@@jimjones3286 explain ? How would he have got into a bunker? He was not a politician , or a civil servant , or had any kind of admin role? DJ is hardly an essential occupation.
In 1976 at 18 years old i had to go to Kelvedon Hatch to fix a Pye base station in a small building at the bottom of that mast. I could tell there was something unusual and special about that place, but had no idea there was a nuclear bunker underneath. It felt like a cross between a telephone exchange and an RAF base. Something about the style and the infrastructure. It was obviously more than just a comms site.
Visited Kelvedon a few months ago, very impressive and chilling. Speaking of which, it's bloody cold down there too, dress warm if you go!
Ant 1980 thank you for the warning! I live close by Kelvedon Hatch and am planning on going to see it in the very near future. Soil temp at around 6 feet is roughly 55 F I believe and going deeper in theory should get warmer as you go close to the Mantle, so it can't be any colder than that , but 55 F is still chilly lol
@@samrodian919 when fully maned you would have the opposite problem. With 400-600 people it would need cooling.
As someone who was trained to fight a warmed up Cold War (1970s-1980s) this film brought back some odd memories, particularly the boiled sweets. I remember 1983 was a particularly nervous year for the military and the general public seemed to be largely unaware The manikins of the reincarnated Maggie Thatcher in this museum would put me off visiting the place; I spent an afternoon with that particular woman back in the early 1980s and that was enough thanks. The official Cold War Museum at RAF Cosford (Telford, Shropshire) is a stunning place to visit, lots of social commentary as well as fascinating military hardware housed in an architectural masterpiece. Please remember that Mr Putin still has thousands of thermonuclear weapons and a disquieting number of those are pointed in our direction. The idea that the Cold War actually ended is perhaps moot, maybe it is just different and almost as worrying.
Sorry you had to engage with that festering troll. At least you can console yourself with the knowledge that you're still here, and she is not ;)
@@RandomRetr0 Mrs Thatcher was bad enough to be around but there was another Tory grandee who I thought was even more personally unpleasant, Leon Britten! Luckily I never came across Norman Tebbit.
@@welshskies Tebbit? Get on yer bike! Lol!! Heartless bastards all of them
better not poke the bear then , like the liberals and dumb assess are doing
@@welshskies we could do with Margret Thatcher now Britain would be a very different place and definitely no woke or liberal bullshit sane people have to endure on a daily bases
I was a member of the now defunct Royal Observer Corps in the late 70s. We regularly held weekends exercises on a wartime footing plotting fictitious detonations around the country and predicting fallout. Horrificaly realistic.
When I visited in 2019 the recorded tour said that there would be a 'ring of steel' around the bunker as the nuclear threat was being deployed, half to keep people out who could be seekng shelter, and half to keep those already inside in, in case they had second thoughts and wanted to face the annihalation with loved one's trapped on the outside. I recommend a visit.
Fascinating documentary, and rather well timed. My mum always tells stories of the time when people were practicing in case of a nuclear attack. My nanna used to have drills with my mum and her siblings where they had to put things around, and get under the table. I quite often giggle at the idea of them practicing for any kind of bomb and expecting to survive with a kitchen table surrounded by other household items. I can never work out if my Nan would have thought the table was stronger than the house, or whether it was to protect them from debris. It must have been terrifying for them. I think it’s clear if there was a nuclear attack, we wouldn’t survive it, let’s just hope the superpowers remember those three key words “mutually assured destruction!”
RE: get under the table
It was pure fear porn theater, like they did with these ridiculous face diapers against the monster virus. By pumping up fear they can control the majority and get what they want. Nukes are pure fear porn. When was the last time you saw one go off?
brainwashing at its best
Tell that to the usa
"Global Thermonuclear War, the only winning move is to not play the game."
@@balthiersgirl2658clean up your own mess and stop begging us to do it for you...
The people who start the war stay safe while the people suffer
Thank you, this is a splendid documentary.
Threads was horrifying to see as a child! It seared the fear into my mind too. I was around 8 years old when some idiot that was supposed to run a silent test of the siren infrastructure actually set them all off, for the entire north of the county. It was early, before school, and I remember the sinking feeling and screaming at my parents to take us to the bunker... I knew there was one, just not where exactly, and it would have been at least 7 miles away and we didn't have a car. My mum thoughtfully tuned into the local radio station which was already issuing apologetic notices on behalf of the county council. The sound of those sirens chills me to the bone to this day.
We used to have an air raid siren on top of the block of flats near us. I think that test went off everywhere. I live down south, it was the height of the cold war back in the 80's. On a hot summers day, clear blue sky and the thing went off. I remember reading at school about Hiroshima and the same weather when that all went south. I was terrified and waited for the flash and the heat. Total madness and we are closer to that now than ever before. Sorry, keep it light 😂
They were always "testing" air raid sirens to annoy the population in britain.
Fascinating video. Well done!
Happy to die swiftly in complete ignorance personally. The thought of dying slowly in a bunker and knowing it, would be dreadful...literally.
What hardly anybody realises, is that the nuclear threat was never completely removed, only reduced.
Today, it seems the threat has returned, but in a slightly different configuration.
If crazy Vladimir strikes a match
@@madanto2394 I'm no fan of Putin, but NATO and the US also share resposibility for what's going on.
Then there are N.Korea, and Iran, both have threatened to use it.
When have NATO and the US threatened to nuke anyone?
Fascinating to see this so recent but hidden history and Sarah's another good presenter on the channel.
I visited kelvedon hatch bunker earlier this year in February it was fantastic it was like walking back in time!
I loved my time at Kelvedon hatch, but A) The first atomic bomb was dropped at a quarter past eight and not a quarter past nine and B) The explosion footage afterwards was from the Nagasaki bomb.
Not quite right. Kelvedon Hatch was not for the central government. It was a regional HQ for London
I live only seven or Eight miles from the bunker at Kelvedon Hatch, and I've never been there, but now I have decided to visit as it look fascinating! I'm really looking forward to it.
Thank you for an excellent documentary! One thing I do recall from visiting the bunker some 20 years ago is the bucket of cyanide hidden in the basement. It was said to be for the hundreds of civil servants only if conditions outside the bunker would not sustain life. To quote Colonel Douglas Macgregor: “Make peace, you fools!”
excellent film...congratulations historyhit
My Grandfather was based at Kelvedon Hatch underground unit during his RAF service in the 1950s, the bunker wasnt built for the government at first. After the RAF no longer required it, the role changed for the Government use. The people in the area knew that the 'bunker' was there, they saw it being built. What they did not know was what went on inside the bunker. The bunker was part of ROTOR for the south east of the UK, RAF Fighter Command, Missle Command and Anti Aircraft Command. It was manned during the height of the Cold War. I still wonder with the quality of History Hit TV, at no time was Britain reliant on American fighters intercepting the Russian 'Bears'. The Hawker Hunter, that entered service in 1954, had a maximum cieling of 50,000ft, while the Russian Bear Tu-95 had a maximum cieling of 45,000. The British aircraft industry led the way for early Jets, even the Gloster Meteor could fly at 43,000ft, and the Gloster Javelin could reach 54,000ft. The EE Lightining entering service in 1960, could reach the height of the Russian bombers, much faster than any other fighter, it was basically a rocket. Its weakness was its fuel capacity, it could reach the required height, but would need to immediatley refuel once reaching it. Are we really meant to believe the RAF, did not have an aircraft capable of intercepting the Russian TU-95 for eight years? The RAF was the ariel defence of our country, and was tasked with dropping our nuclear weapons if the ballon went up. What would of been better for public moral, telling them they had a chance of survival, or that it was pointless? The Government did not build bunkers for its self, they built radar and communication bunkers for the RAF, that once they were no longer required, were given over to civil defence use by the Government. When the bunkers were built, they were only as good as the day they were designed. The bunkers that were built, would of been manned in the build up to the collapse of international relationships by the Government. The RAF manned Kelvedon Hatch throughout its use by the RAF, with attached Royal Artillery secondments. RAF personnel were regularly tested, to see if they were not discussing sensitive information. On the coach or truck from RAF North Weald, there would often be a penetration test done, by a new man getting on board and asking questions. Anyone that gave away information, would be taken away. Having lived through the Blitz on London, his RAF service and Army service, my Grandpa was mentally reassured by the MAD status that went on throughout the Cold War.
To be fair, they state that it was a ROTOR bunker in the video - you wouldn't be able to complain about the American fighters goof if they hadn't. Secondly, you are right about the fighter intercept claim, but that claim came from the owner and custodian of the site who is not a historian and does get things wrong (notably that the bunker would have been THE government bunker in the even of war - it wouldn't, that was Corsham. The rooms prepared in the final phase of development at Kelvedon Hatch were only in the event that Corsham was inaccessible or if a new PM had to be designated and therefore operate out of KH). My point is that if they are guilty of anything it's believing what he has to say and not fact-checking him. This has been a problem with history documentaries for a very long time - HH are by no means unique. Even the best documentary series from the 1960s-80s got things wrong. You yourself are wrong too, I'm afraid - the government absolutely did build bunkers for itself, Corsham being built within an existing tunnel network, yes, but it still had to be built. Others were built from scratch e.g. Chilmark - look on SubBrit. Not to mention that even converting existing structures to SRCs or RGHQs involved a lot of construction and cost. Not that I personally think the government shouldn't have had them - they should.
@@skepticalbadger Yes the "government" very much built the bunkers for themselves...... the bungalow/farmhouse disguised as a bunker gaurd house(once you've seen one you've seen them all) would not have misled an attacking army. These bunkers were quickly reappropriated to enable those in power to keep hold of that power/control. The Panorama episode "If the Bomb Drops" has interviews with some of the civil servants who'd be in these bunkers, and there's a real Dr Strangelove vibe.
We had the vulcan too
Very well presented and produced. Thank you.
Tons of jewels displayed in the video.
These are just a few that I caught ;)
22:58, 35:09 Creed teletype model 444, lots of them throughout the video.
35:41 On top of the cabinet in the back. Telegraph Distortion Measuring Set made by ATE, local and remote unit for testing telex lines.
35:09, left side, Creed 6s mechanical paper tape reader, with some paper tape perforator behind, that I cannot identify
35:18 British Telecom "Cheetah" 87C/32K Telex from 1984, you can see the tape reader immeditely below the screen.
40:44 At the front, a Commodore 8250
40:44 & 41:29 At the very back, it seems a back view of a Commodore 8296 or similar (a roundy design)
Fantastic programme. I agree about Threads! It's still indelibly etched in my brain. Especially the end! Can only pray it never happens.
I used to plan as a child how I and where I would hide when a bomb was dropped. Crazy to look back on.
I did a ghost hunt there years ago and the place is creepy. Feels like someone is watching you around the toilets
Those "Protect and Survive" ads on telly absolutely terrified me as a child in the early 80's as there was a few moments when the threat was growing but luckily, things calmed down.
Threads was scary as hell. And when The Wind Blows, even the Protect and Survive was scary as a kid. I remember being told about the 4 minute warning but everyone said they didn't know what that would be. Much like in the episode of Only Fools & Horses The Russians are Coming, great episode. There is always something I find strangely cosy about these bunkers.
Cozy is exactly how I feel about these places - a strange feeling I could never quite understand
Cities across the United States had similar, but markedly smaller bunkers. Two of the largest I'm aware of were in Portland Oregon, and Greenbrier West Virginia (Greenbrier was for the U.S. Congress and Presidential Cabinet). In New Orleans there was one for the City Government, located underground on West End Blvd. that I would see everyday as a child. I actually had the opportunity to visit it and get the two penny tour one year before it was abandoned in 1987. Now no one hardly knows it was there... it's covered over with condominiums. It could "house" approximately 100 people, had a radio/TV station, infirmary, armory, kitchen. It was staffed 24/7 from 1958 to 1987
Wonderful and frightening documentary. I love this channel!
Funny Churchill added himself to the conversation about dropping the bomb. Like him seducing FDR. What a character. Would have been great to me both.
I’ve been to Kelvedon Hatch a number of times, it’s incredibly interesting to have a look around. Well worth a visit.
The new london bunker is at the end of a underground tunnel that they made when they built the channel tunnel they used that cover to removal all the spoil and it is massive....
Been there and its pretty interesting but years before that, some 23 or so years ago, we used to park our cars in the access tunnel to smoke joints, was a tight fit with the wheels slightly up the wall of the tube and mirrors pulled in lol.
This bunker was replaced and it was not that bunkers were just closed, the new one is accessed from an unmarked slip road on the M25 and is still operational as far as i know.
Greetings from Brazil, and thanks for this video.
Thank you so much for this well researched account of Britains Cold War strategy.
The title gives the impression there is only one of them. WTF?
MOLD Clywyd North Wales, nuclear bunker under the fire station. When they washed the engines water dripped through the ceiling, of the two blast doors, one was substantial but the money ran out and the second was a UPVC front door.
I played paintball in the woods near the bunker back in 1991 just before then end of the cold war and the bunker was still in operation. During a break we bimbeld over and was told to go away by a military guard who was hanging around near the bungalow. We went back to the paintball site for a brew.
visited this place in 2019, whilst on holiday in the UK.
eerie but fascinating.
the secret bunker in Fife Scotland is in a middle of a field amazing place :worth a visit well preserved
27:22 " hanging on " nice message from the producer/director
HANGING ON! ?
I've just found a 'nuclear war bunker' near where I live in Kent, UK. Probably can only see the vent shafts and not go in, but hey-ho.
Excellent video! Amazing how many hundreds of millions was spent on the bunker system - and never used! Presumably they thought it was worth it at the time. Well, they did
I think the doors against the wall shelter was more intended to make sure everyone was buried nice and neatly at home easing the risk of anarchy and disease.
Considering the UK has at the most 20 minutes from a Russian nuke launch to hitting the UK, Kelvedon hatch location is a bit far for a helicopter to reach with the PM in the time given.
And thats not taking into account a 6 minute time for the Russian missile launch, detection and course plot.
now you're down to 14 minutes to get the PM out of London.
flawed plan.
I went to a zombies escape thing in this place a few years back. Wasn't expecting much but was really good!
Rather misleading title. Kelvedon was not as claimed the emergency seat of government for the UK. It had a very minor role as the GLC emergency hq and later as the regional seat of government for that sector of the Uk. Central government had much more hardened relocation sites to hide in.
Quite right too, this was an SRC, war room, the main governmental bunker was over at rudloe manor, corsham, burlington road, or whatever secret name it was using, l went to the main bunker, in fact, as a member of the UKWMO, l was stationed in kelvedon hatch on many a weekend, so, stop bigging this bunker up, lol, that farmer should know better, mind you, it beats farming, l suppose, lol
@@g1egz I wish these documentaries would actually talk to people like yourself who saw these places in operation and know how the system of continuity of ops and government really worked. I have some friends who worked at Rudloe back in the 70s and 80s and all i can say is if it was left to them to run and repopulate the destroyed UK we would have been in serious trouble. They are all pensioners now but still mad as hatters.
Agreed. Whilst that may have been a backup function it was never the intention to house the central gov't or prime minister there so that's stretching the facts a little. However I guess perpetuating the myth is probably a wry marketing ploy for the owners.
IIRC the main one was under Box Hill near Corsham Wiltshire. Search Wikipedia for "Central Government War Headquarters".
farmhouses don't usually have a concrete loading bay either lol
Part of what makes this so chilling is that this danger is still very real. With everything going on with Russia and China rn, we're arguably on the verge of a new cold war. The CDC I believe has a modern, updated page on how to survive a nuclear strike and what to do in the event of nuclear war. I'm sure the British government also has a similar page. Terrifying times then and now.
It's interesting to consider just exactly what would happen post-detonation.
If we use COVID as a litmus test, on the one hand the vast, vast majority of people (in the UK, and I'm guessing in the US and Canada too) complied with the orders to isolate themselves in their households, patiently await further advice from the government/National Health Service etc.
But on the other, we saw some genuinely selfish behaviour, with people hording (remember the toilet roll apocalypse of 2020 lol) stripping shelves of non-perishable goods fuel and medication, refusing to check-in on elderly and vulnerable neighbours, and overwhelming hospitals/ambulance services with minor ailments and injuries, despite us being told the healthcare system was at breaking point.
We're a very charitable nation, and we will always do what we can to help other countries in their time of need (Ukraine conflict being a prime example) but I do wonder if it came to it, would both the government, and the surviving public, be quite as proactive to help their fellow human if catastrophe struck on our doorstep...?
It's the usa causing all the problem
This isn’t a bunker it’s a cellar. 15 feet below ground? A Hydrogen bomb leaves a 200 m deep crater. A bunker buster goes through this bunker like a knife through butter.
If prince Philip, ever visited this place, it must just have been to have laughed. The moment that antenna above started transmitting the bunker below would have been discovered and everyone would be vaporised shortly thereafter
Pity the BBC Wartime Broadcasting Service (WTBS) studio at 44' looks more like a store room for old broadcast kit than the actual studio setup. The rack of kit behind the presenter is a genuine BBC Deferred Facilities (DF) RSG studio rack. But no way would all that kit be in the studio. The essence of the WTBS DF kit was simplicity as, in the event, keeping it going was the key. "Chewing gum and string" was the term mentioned to me by those chosen to be part of the WTBS.
Brilliant presentation and contributors. I'm a new subscriber 😊
I would imagine britain has modern ones well underground .the royal family probably has their own.
Everyone should read “on the beach” by Neville Shute
The best place to be in an all out nuclear war is right under the tip of the nearest ICBM.
Great film thank you for uploading
There is still an air raid siren on top of the fire station where I live outside Glasgow as I live only about 30 miles from the nuclear submarine base at faslane on the Clyde I don’t think the governments new text warning will help me in anyway 😂
I think if MAD ever became a reality I would want to be as close as possible to a major city to die early. There is no reason to survive, our society would be sent back decades or centuries. Communication technology wouldn't work, our food would be contaminated and all our families and friends would be either killed or missing in the panic.
Albert Einstein: "I know not with what weapons WW3 will be fought, but WW4 will be fought with sticks and stones"
There's one under Dorchester Library. I had to visit it when I was in the Fire Brigade in the 1990s. It was well dated even then.
It's pretty cool and very informative. Been a few times but i live quite close to the area
I actually live near here, it's pretty funny to see road signs to the "secret" nuclear bunker
15:24 RAF Holmpton is in East Yorkshire not North Yorkshire 😉. Its just outside Withernsea
How does anyone continue to tolerate government in the face of this sheer psychopathy?
We have a similar one outside of Ottawa, Canada. It is currently a pretty neat museum called the Diefenbunker.
wonder where the new one is then
It's well worth a visit ...bit of a hidden gem
Having watched this does anyone else not find the exorbitant cost and timescales of the refurbishment of parliament slightly suspicious?
Never underestimate the ability of governments to waste money. But, does seem few decimals out of calibration with reality.
Rotor radar station 60 odd built across Britain in the 1950s
There is also bunker beneath MitchamCommon ,South London.
Why was she watching Threads at 3 years of age? Excellent parenting.
This is a example of what goes on behind our backs when we are not looking The rich and powerful will always ensure there own survival andlet the rest of us perish have no doubt about that?
Fun to see the Atomic Hobo after listening to her podcast for years.
No mention of the 1966 film "The War Game " by Peter Watkins
Makes one wonder what the replacement site looks like today. It's also hilarious how much attention they evidently paid to law and order and food supplies for all the survivors who would never have survived because they weren't in radiation-proof underground shelters with air filtration. The only likely survivors would have been in those bunkers. Government with no one to govern.
The government: "Don't care, survived, lol".
I'm sure British Leyland steel used there shouldn't corrode???
Amazing story. I had no idea about this. Thanks for showing us this documentary.
I'm glad I didn't have to watch 'Threads' as a three-year old, but I remember as a kid in Greater London in the Sixties listening to the WWII sirens going off, and thinking I've got four minutes to live (this was the folklore about how long you had to prepare from incoming hydrogen bombs.) I used to count to two hundred and forty, and I was still there... It was the monthly siren test, but I never got used to them, a month is a long time when you're a kid. Bring back the sirens, people take note of them, unlike electronic drivel!
There's loads of abandoned underground bunkers in the UK, I suggest you find out where your nearest is, because it's getting spicey
An abandoned bunker isn't going to be much use really. Without the hugely energy intensive air filtration system, you would be at considerable risk of airborne contamination. Very few have even remotely functional systems, only those in current official occupation, and good luck gaining entry!
The ROTOR era bunkers were really only glorified bomb shelters with some nods to fallout air filtration. The "blast doors" are comically flimsy due to the bunkers not offering protection against the overpressure experienced in a nuclear blast as they were in effect unsealed. On the emergency exit, there aren't any, only gas doors for airflow control.
Add to this, these early bunkers were from an era of kiloton yield air dropped munitions, as opposed to the potential multi mega-tonne ballistic devices, probably not even desirable to survive.
Sadly men would be just as big a risk to women in these shelters
Shows you how much the government thought of the pheasants
Now that the exact GPS coordinates of this facility is no secret the only question is if the structure can withstand the Khinsall missile which dives at 7 times the speed of sound.
Do you think the top of the tree are unprotected as these are now public knowledge think on...... you just don't know where the new one is
The section on Tim Berners-Lee is a bit confused, I’m afraid. The internet was based on DARPANET, an American initiative for survivable communications during the Cold War. The World Wide Web, which TBL is credited with creating, is the hyperlink method where you can click on links to go to sites and documents.
This was a fabulous documentary 👏 awesome work.