The rise and fall of the American fallout shelter
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- Whatever happened to fallout shelters? And would they have actually worked?
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In this episode of Vox Almanac, Vox's Phil Edwards looks at the history behind one of the Cold War's more unusual legacies - the fallout shelter. Of course, any history of the fallout shelter has to include nuclear proliferation, civil defense, Presidential politics, and a turtle named Bert.
The video above serves as a condensed history of the Cold War’s fallout shelter fad, from the kookily cheerful propaganda videos to the hobbled Federal agencies that tried to administer Civil Defense. Yes, it includes the classic Cold War film Duck and Cover, in which a bomb-fearing turtle named Bert teaches kids that hiding under their desks could be sufficient protection from nuclear annihilation.
Any history of fallout shelter culture (and Cold War propaganda) becomes an indirect history of Cold War nuclear escalation, from Hiroshima-sized bombs to hydrogen behemoths. As the nuclear threat increased in magnitude, the absurdity of civil defense amped up simultaneously.
This video (and a day spend trawling the Internet Archive for darkly humorous videos) provides a more intimate portrait of Cold War paranoia as it was lived. Paired with Kenneth Rose’s comprehensive book about fallout shelter culture, it’s a look at daily life with the bomb - even when that daily life included the occasional jaunt to a thick-walled concrete bunker a few feet underground.
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Needless to say, hearing "DUM DUM" from that children's turtle animation as you watch the houses being blown to bloody smithereens, and at various parts of the video, was slightly unnerving.
I felt it was a little heavy-handed, to be honest. Although it did make the video slightly more entertaining.
Yeah, I agree. And it was so annoying that I tried muting and reading subtitles, just to save my ears from that 😛
Yeah
Yeah, they should have been like a nuclear bomb and been really subtle.
I need a copy of that remix without all the narration. The music in this ep was chilling!
dum dum just gets creepier and creepier
James Tang that’s what I expect to hear while dying
No It's was overused and just became cringy
James Tang I know right😭
"it's was" Get out.
Startev dumbs dumbs xD
I asked my dad about “Duck & cover” when he was young, for a school report. My teacher wasn’t impressed with dad’s quote “It was so the government would have an orderly time finding the bodies”
Your dad is an honest man, mister.
Well it's nearly impossible to survive a nuke unless ur hundreds of feet thousands of feet in the air
@@happygnomev2576 'Makes the body count easier' Spot on!
Woah... I've never thought about it like that
That's what my father said. Wonder if they knew each other?
oh man, Bethesda has been hyping the Fallout shelter app since the 60s
It was a true underground advertising campaign.
Ironically, Bethesda was in the Washington dc blast radius
Wow. Bethesda always has very elaborate and creative ad campaigns, but this one trumps all. Well done!
BRAVO HOWARD
I hate this meme where it says that Companies hype concepts that don't exist with similarly named things and similar ideas! And the worst is if the company doesn't exist! (No offense, I just hate the meme)
hey funny story,
I used to sleep in your parking garage when i was homeless in DC. Never felt safer. Great Video
I hope life is treating you well friend.
If not well, better.
Be safe & well fellow earthling💗💔
Jesus loves you ❤️
@@ali07saad yes it is. im married and live in Virginia with my wife and son. Thanks for the concern.
Sponsored by vault-tec
I’m your 1000 like (;
I love fallout the game it is good
Duck!... and cover! Mr House is your friend
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*LOOK GORDON, ROPES!*
The shelters are still a nice thing to have. If you live in a tornado zone for examaple.
Or you can use them for food storage. Or remodel it into a home cinema. Or a mancave / womanlounge / kidsroom / methlab
you forgot 'growroom'
that escalated (read: deescalated) quickly!
"meth lab" just gets nonchalantly thrown in
One of those things is not like the others
Root cellar!
"Well folks, I'm glad you could come down and see my fallout shelter."
"Dang, this is nice."
I don't know why that's so funny to me
Something about "dang" doesn't seem very fitting slang for the era, to me.
If you listen carefully, I think she says, "SAY, isn't this nice?"
@@zackatwood2867 As the neighbors are sitting in their own: "Harry, I really wish you could have built one as nice as Walt's..."
The joys of '50s government videos. They're all corny as hell (and nowadays a lot of them have incorrect information).
It's so casual and chill for advertising a shelter to protect you from the apocalypse
1950: Soviet Russia is a Scary Nuclear Threat
2018: Soviet Russia is meme
2022 edit: ooo boy this did not age well
lol
Russia still has 7000 nukes and even if we are not really enemies anymore there is still a chance they try to take Eastern Europe (don't believe everything look at Crimea) and this would drag the EU and then the US into a war. Also if either Russian or American alert system accidentally picks up a nuclear attack we would still go to war (this actually happened in the Soviet Union but the people in the launch site went with their gut and decided that we hadn't attacked.
@@liamnacinovich8232
Are you refering to the close call of Nuclear Submarine during Cuban Missile Crisis? Or a lone training bomber that aciddently fly above Soviet airspace and sent the entire nation into full alert thinking that the plane was carrying nuke? Also during the crisis?
Im talking about the submarine (also I think a similar event happened in the 80’s) all I’m saying is that I don’t think it is that unlikely that a safety system/alert system could fail. If the US or Russia sent even one nuke the other country would retaliate with hundreds more forcing the attacking country to send its arsenal too.
Soviet Russia 😆 eastern europe needs to unify so they can bully germeny to be normal again like poland
Vault-Tec, a better future underground!
Jamilson Junior was wondering who was gonna post it first ^^
Crawl out through the fallout, Baby!
We all know how that ended.
Bethesda is a sell out
*sips Nuka-Cola
ah that time when women chose men based on the size of their fallout shelter. Those were the days
Must've been compensating for something else
still is ;)
I start every first date by asking women if they want to see my fallout shelter. They never seem to return my calls.
Is that why so many Marriages were dysfunctional?
Which bunker is best bunker?
*"MY BUNKER IS BEST BECAUSE ONLY LOCAL PRODUCE FOR FOOD"*
The editing is so good on this one, I come back every half year or so just to get this unsettling sensation of DUM DUM Explosions.
H. Celine I do the same thing!
Haha me too
Back here again myself. This video perfectly captures the melancholy of that era: “we have a plan!” and yet “it’s all over if it happens.”
Vox really is the goat of journalism!
I watched it for very firs time today, and I must agree with you. I am happy that I am not the only one.
My mom always used to say "It wasn't so much 'Duck and Cover' as 'Bend over and kiss your ass goodbye'"
“You think you’re better than me, smoothskin?”
Sean Barry please leave me alone this is none of your business
Sean Barry Nobadys better than me!
SHUT UP! There's a settlement that needs my help!
200 years of Vault tec salesmanship and you still didn't get your steak knives!
Lel Hancock
*How to do Human interactions*
Walter: *Casually Invites a Couple to look at his Basement Family Fallout Shelter*
*Switzerland sweating nervously*
... and slaughters them for refreshed supply of long-pork in his shelter.
I am sorry, but your comment started way too ominous for it not to end in some horror scenario.
Wanted to show you “my” fallout shelter, with heavy emphasis on, “I won’t be sharing”
why live in a vault when you can become an immortal ghoul?
Just don’t hide in a fridge
Hair is nice
You'll become feral in 200 years.
Not to mention the medical disaster you would become
...you filthy casual
The audio editing and production of this was amazing. The "duck duck...." music was creepy but great. Give that person a raise.
Sal Macaraig do you know the name of the piano music?
Wondering that too.
yes but the true creepiness comes from the audio clips from the duck and cover
Sal Macaraig Burt the turtle is a creepy melody.
I'm not worried about any nukes, I have plenty of Radaways, stimpaks, doctor bags, and rad-x's.
lawl
And nuka cola
Be careful with radaroaches because they can get to your shelter
And mole rats
Same 😂
Yea, so they’re not “bomb shelters” - they’re “fallout shelters”. Everything within the 4 mile radius of a hydrogen bomb is gone, whether you’re in a fallout shelter or not. The fallout shelters were to protect from the radiation that falls out from the blast. Your video covers these points but you still seem surprised that the shelters “wouldnt work” for people in the blast radius, and imply that they were an expensive waste of resources that fueled paranoia. im not sure the content here really supports that speculative thesis
Chris McGraw “Atlas Survival Shelters” those are legitimate fallout shelter that can survival in the radius. Not just an extra brick room in your basement.
Fallout Shelters were just security theatre to calm the public. The reality is they would be useless in the event of a real nuclear attack.
I think the important part was that, while the shelters would prevent from fallout, they were kind of a dead end. Okay, your entire city is inundated with radioactive fallout, you can't go outside and the cities have been reduced to ashes. What now? Stay in your shelter forever? I think the point he's trying to make is that there wasn't a thorough plan because there couldn't have been one; instead they advised fallout shelters to make people feel like they had some control over their situation.
@@forresthopkinsa exactly, where are the supply chains for your food?
They were also effective blast shelters, to varying degrees. Nuclear bombs vary in yield by a factor of about one million so they really cannot be used as a standard unit of measurement. Even strategic warheads range from about 0.3 to 20 megatons. If your home is even a few miles from any particular target such as a petroleum processing plant, military base, and city center, among a few others like a typical suburban house is, then a bomb shelter buried a few feet under your back yard is very likely to provide adequate protection. A 20 megaton fusion bomb detonating directly overhead would hardly be typical. Just as most WW2 bomb shelters were not designed to withstand a direct hit because they were very unlikely to receive one, most nuclear bomb blast-fallout shelters would not experience a direct hit. They are not a perfect solution of course, but a several million of them across the country could make the difference between and America that is battered and an America that is broken.
The editing/production of this video is incredible
Seriously. The intro gave me shivers...
Can't agree more, they just do a great work!
I was thinking the same thing. This is definately one of Vox's better quality videos. Informative, visually appealing, and that dumdum sound direction was really awry!
Amy Halliday they always are. I love Vox. They're one of the top few channels worth their work. Easily one of the best channels ever.
Nuke goes off in a nearby city
Grandad: *jumps out of chair like he was 5 years old*
‘Quick boys follow me’
*takes you to a fallout shelter underneath your house that you didn’t even know existed*
Omg I'm peeing laughing
That would be cool and scary
"Those Red Whippersnappers!!!".
"Crawl out through the fallout, baby
When they drop that bomb
Crawl out through the fallout
With the greatest of aplomb
When your white count's getting higher
Hurry, don't delay
I'll hold you close and kiss those
Radiation burns away."
Seriously though, I wake up screaming every night.
This song is the best! I wished we could license it for this video. For all those curious: ruclips.net/video/8XPzICHxXoQ/видео.html
Awesome, hilarious album, available on Spotify.
-Phil
Funny coincidence, it's been stuck in my head for the past couple of days.
CJusticeHappen21 I also had the same idea😂😂
I don't want to set the world on fire, I just want to start a flame in your heart~
CJusticeHappen21 one of the best songs in one of the best video games
Vault-Tec, Prepare for the future!
Ph.D Dylan time to go to the vault 21 or vault 111 actually I'll just go to Vault 111 because that's where the cryogenic is storied and I'm stealing the spot where Nate gets into so I don't get trapped in a cryogenic tube
Bethesda captured old American style perfectly. Narration and artwork. They dropped the ball W with 76 but i still Love them.
5:29 don’t worry children! Though we may destroy each other, we know that we are better than them as our explosions are larger than theirs.
Terrariaplayer2 even though the tsar Bomba was way bigger
BigJohnny xl yup
@@bigjohnnyxl6666 And it came later than the production of that video
@@bigjohnnyxl6666 but inefficient
The soundtrack to this one is beyond brilliant. Very powerful video.
Simon O what the song name
Thumbs up for Nuka Cola!
lol
i want nuka cole quantum
dum dum
Sunset sasparilla
Bro everybody lives just grab a nuke cola
200 years later, somewhere in Massachusetts: "...this is Diamond City Radio."
Somewhere in Nevada : "This is Mr. New Vegas... "
Somewhere in DC: "This is Three Dawg, Awooooo!
This is such a recent history. And it boggles my mind that not so long ago, it was a genuine fear for most people in the world, that nuclear clash could destroy humanity. And this fear was justified. It could have happened. What crazy time. I hope we manage this N. Korean situation as best as we can. Great video VOX as always.
Giuseppe Arcimboldo it still could happen
it could still happen!
Back in the 50's and 60's at least the Russian leaders were rational. I can't say the same thing about Kim Jong Un I'm afraid
compliments to the editor
Fallout (the game) did REALLY well in emulating the feel of those old educational films in its trailers
Good Morning! Vault Tec calling!
Name Name who else Read iT in his voice
Latrice Krone me
Name Name uhhh sorry no
Go. Ayy-way.
(Slams Door) Nope I'll Just Become A Ghoul.
Never underestimate the human capacity to be better at _destroying_ than _protecting._
we are really easy to kill
lazyperfectionist1 has nothing to do with human capacity, its just a fact of existence that destruction is easier than creation/protection. Smh
Which also says a lot about how strong the desire to create must be, given how much easier destruction is.
humanity attac but not protec
The laws of nature make destruction easier than creation. You can't unscramble eggs in our world but it's very easy to break them.
10:26 *There's a city next to D.C that's called Bethesda. IN A VIDEO ABOUT FALLOUT SHELTERS*
Bethesda Game Studios was founded in Bethesda, MD in 1986.
Red Tesseract Yeah I know, but it's still funny to see a city named Bethesda related or not in a video like this! ;)
TopSpeed Adrian didn't say it wasn't though?
CasualChris yes you literally did
How though?
“Fallout Shelter boom.”
How ironic.
L
I have S.P.E.C.I.A.L. needs
Don't be a G.O.A.T. go play fallout new vegas (best game).
I have
S.ports
P.lace to stay
E.ducation
C.food
I.phone
A.nd
L.family
needs
madichelp0 nah im just handicaped
Cwisti my luck is all the way up ;)
Cwisti
"Hey I'm not retarded I'm handicapped"
-Fitz 2017
This is a really well produced video. I especially love that very ominous "dum dum"-sample slipping through the piano now and then. Love it!
0:41 10:56 11:52 Who ever edited this did an excellent job!
Very _haunting._
Vamavid what do you like about it?
@@bdogdaprince the way the "dum dum" in a happy voice lined up with the visual changes and were played against obviously grim imagery and as such got deeper and more grim with each "dum"
What music is playing?
I agree, the music/audio (minus the talking) is the best part of this video
Honestly , I liked that didu dum dum at the beginning.
carloz andrez i liked it at the end
It was setting up atmosphere, and then....just an ominous sign. The sign of truth, behind whimsical melody. Thoughts of every american: "There will be war. Better build a shelter. Beetle dum-dum~"
Their sound designers are great, this video they did a good job especially at the end making it feel really tense.
They also used it really well at the beginning to set the tone of at least their perception of the entire concept of the fallout shelters - "here's Walt building a fallout shelter - _dumb dumb_ - so he'll be safe when the bomb goes off - _dumb dumb_ "
I find it scary af
Yea that thing throughout the video REALLY pulled the whole thing together. Like their editing is always top notch, but this? Man. It was something else. A whole other level.
In my school there is a rusted, old, sign above a set of lockers for a fallout shelter that used to be there. The building is very, VERY, old. It was built in around 1920. It's freaky
Edit: the school was built in the 1920s, idk when the shelter was, or if it's still there. All thats visible is the sign
You should try finding the shelter, and maybe make a video of it.
I will pay for that sign. I’m a historian studying and trying to preserve the postwar era. I am quite intrigued in acquiring this item, and if you are interested, please reach out to me via my RUclips account or this comment link.
Why do I feel like a covered up/ blocked off door is behind the lockers waiting to be opened
the Catholic school I went to for elementary school had a fallout shelter in the basement. on 9/11 my high school handed put maps on how to get to the few fallout shelters in town, including the school.
the school has since closed, but the building is still well maintained because of the fallout shelter.
Robin Moreau that explain why i saw in an urbex video when there was an abandoned school but it very well maintained and on the entrance it says it has a fallout shelter
its prolly a bingo hall, too
Robin Moreau lots of urban schools used to be fallout shelters. I went to one
It’s not Our Lady Help of Christians on McDougall Street in Detroit by any chance?
Your from maiden high school ha (it's from fallout 3 or 4)
Dont worry ✋ i played the fallout games so i basically know everything about surviving.
Gaqs lol
Gaqs remember to try the survival mode for extra realism.
Or was it easy
lol
So, you know that you need modders to make your chances of survival above average?
Gaqs can I use mods
I live in Colorado. Me and my family live in my Grandfather’s house that he built in the 60s. He actually had a fallout shelter built into his basement. It’s obvious that I have little need for it nowadays but we use it as a tornado and earthquake shelter. It is practical and nice to have. It just helps with your piece of mind.
Earthquake shelter? Won't that just bury you? Also, you won't get much warning prior to an earthquake.
that dida dum dum got so creepy at the end
people get along with each other
if you are living in a major city just forget it you are dead!
Don't forget to put your hand above your head, you don't want that nasty dust ruin your well pomade hair
@@jpulunk
In Russian schools there is an OBZh сourse- social life safety course. It teaches how to survive in various catastrophic situations, from fires to the use of biological weapons and other weapons of mass destruction. The teacher explained that when the soldiers were taught to lie face down with their feet in the direction of the explosion and cover their heads with their hands, this was necessary only to simplify the identification of the corpses.
Булат Кульгильдин That is the most depressing thing ever.
Columbus Ohio: *Starts kicking people out to stay small enough to not be a target*
@@Aracelerii nobody will waste a bomb that close to Cleveland...
In hindsight this is insanely surreal to see how „normal“ stuff like this was for people back in the days
That is kind of normal in Israel.
To be fair, your use of Tsar Bomba as an example is a poor choice, since that was much larger yield than operational devices and was not a practical weapon. So you'd want to replace it with about a dozen smaller warheads striking various targets around DC, which might even be worse.
It was dropped by a Tu-95. It could easily be carried by an aircraft. The question, however, is whether or not the aircraft could return to its base after reaching the Contiguous US with such a heavy payload. Of course, the aircraft would have probably not made it to its target, as air defense was fairly above adequate, but air defense ignored, the bomber could have easily made a one-way trip.
Plus the tsar bomb is very expensive I mean Finland’s windows shattered from the explosion and I think it’s too heavy to carry
Rubric Marine It's not too heavy.
I wouldn't call it a weapon. It was more of an experiment and/or a propaganda tool.
forget the aircraft, the rocket could easily carry that monstrosity
A few inches of dirt stops so much radiation. Having a bunker under a foot of dirt would definitely shield you from the radiation but you'd need a few weeks of supplies. About a month or so the radiation levels would drop significantly so you might be able to escape at that point.
a few feet of dirt would protect you from the extremely strong radiation at certian parts of fukishima which would otherwise give lethal radiation poisioning in 30 seconds. Your main enemy is getting in fresh air, and clean water.
+Samuel Seidel A foot of dirt would save you from approximately 90% of the radiation. In practice, the standard for radiation shielding would be at least 3 feet of dirt. You're not escaping anywhere either. After a nuclear war, you're not evacuating, you're going back to living there.
+MarcAFK +Steven R Is storing water so confusing to you? You're not meant to stay in the shelter indefinitely. It's a temporary shelter to minimize exposure to the initial blast/worst of the fallout. As for air, a standard air filter would work more than fine, and fallout tends to settle out of air pretty quick.
You were expected to have a supply of tinned water (back then they had tins of water) for at least several weeks. It's even recommended for any sort of emergencies really. I keep some bottled water around just in case and it has come in handy a time or two when tap water was not safe drink.
3 days and radiation would be minimal
@@cgmason7568 2 weeks.
My school's got a fallout shelter. Old fallout shelter signs still in the halls, and I've even been in the deeper basement parts and had seen old barrels from WW2. The whole era is a pretty interesting part of history.
My elementary school literally had one of these.. I don't know why I was never more curious about it lol
Mine had one too. I just found one downtown in my new town too.
In FL, most schools are used as hurricane shelters, so we have a similar sign, but for hurricanes not bomb threats.
My school had this and I was curious about it. I think I asked where the shelter actually was, but never got an answer.
stanj85 "it's for when we all gon die"
My school was built in the 1920s. It actually has shelters and secret rooms chained up..
Old Music scare me
Malik ItBe xD
It should scare you....
Right! I hate it too
Are you insulting old time stars like me?
hey owners of the video, im sure this comment wont be read but great job on the music for this one! its haunting and at times dissonant, perfect for the topic youre presenting and really elevated the video as a whole. well done!
The Russians only ever built one tsar bomba and never put it on an icbm. Their actual nuclear arsenal consisted of many, many smaller nuclear weapons.
Well, it was costly, after all, to build plenty of bombs of such size.
But, more importantly, it was f***ing dangerous. If you read some basic reports even from sources like wikipedia you'll see what I mean.
And now the REAL kicker: originally Soviets planned to make Tsar-bomba TWICE as powerful but they were concerned about additional pollution and settled for a "smaller" variant.
And it was principally permitted by the given technology to continue growth of power well beyond that. At least theoretically. Nobody was so stupid or crazy to actually try it after the testing of Tsar-bomba.
Levierina I garuntee you that if the Americans made a 51 megaton bomb the Soviets would make a 52 megaton bomb just so they could 1 up the Americans, always has been the case with everything
Same more or less for Americans.
Maybe I just have too much hope for humanity but I really do think that people stopped there with the power per bomb understanding the consequences of weapons of such magnitude.
...and so both for a time were racing in quantity not quality...Which is hardly that much of a lesser evil. History is a sad thing.
Philip Undisclosed Not to mention that none of these measures were even remotely targeted at keeping everyone safe but rather to maximize the odds for as many people as feasible.
A large hydrogen bomb will still give you plenty (relatively speaking) of warning with an unmistakable flash before the shockwave hits... at least if you are far enough to have any hope of benefiting from it.
Those desks will keep debris off, but even just staying away from windows is going to improve your chances.
The MIRVs heading for DC may or may not obliterate any given parking garage, metro station, etc. but depending on the scale of the conflict, accuracy of the projectiles and effectiveness of counter measures some may survive and on nuclear war scales that's a better outcome.
People may have been paranoid but none of these measures are a reflection thereof. They reveal cold calculations in an attempt to shift the odds, even if ever so slightly.
The point is even if that one single bomb was never used, we'd still have so many other smaller nukes targeting us that the effect would basically be the same.
War... War never changes.
Actually nukes changed war a lot, very few nuclear nations are willing to engage other nuclear powers because of MAD. Nukes saved so many lives, it's not even funny despite the heavy irony.
Now that dum dum sound scares me, thank you
MiniNara peace was never an option
"Welcome to the Fallout and here you have some S.P.E.C.I.A.L needs.
The underground is your friend while up there is death indeed."
Says afton
Cheapest war is more expensive than the most expensive peace.
Me too
@@tatska5856 Me too; yes.
Sadly an economy booms during war so it pays off the debt.
@@Jarfiller
Explain how?
@@janusceasar7851 How do you think US got so rich after WW2? They sold supplies and weapons to the poor Europeans and didn't spend much on their own. And they also didn't get their buildings bombed. Producing war supplies was part of how US got out of the Great Depression.
As a child of the 50s my mom told me of the drills they had where they’d all run to their lockers and duck in front of them. She described how they all thought it silly as the lockers were nothing special. I wondered aloud if maybe the running to the lockers was an identification sort of thing... she’d not thought of that before.
Bittle Dum Dum
Damn, that gives you the creep.
Nafis Fuad Khan Look up the British 'Protect and Survive' adverts from the '70s and '80s. That music could give you nightmares.
I want to kill the sound editor.
He's already dead inside, I suppose
I thought so too
That song is never going out of my head.
Thank you 😃
i feel you bro 😥
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Bananappleboy World lol
I love how many fallout fans are in the comments
Sean Barry I know right me too ^^
YEAH
“Another settlement needs your help”
patrolling on the Mojave makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
Sean Barry and asked for him
Modern American history is so very interesting.
you can just call 1-800-VAULT-TEC
This is the best editing I have ever seen in a video
Alexandre Lobo explain what is you like about it. What makes it superb
This was really much more about making people FEEL save. Something not covered in this video, which makes small fallout shelters very questionable: The outside world is contaminated with lethal doses of radioactive dust. How do they get their air input filtered from that? How long do they have to stay in the shelter until it is safe enough to leave? Let's assume every family member needs about 1,5 litres water per day. Multiply this with the number of family members and with the number of days they have to spend in there. There should be a sealed freshwater tank about the same size as the shelters visible in these videos. How do they remove their waste without getting in contact with the toxic outside atmosphere? We have not even started thinking about the amount of food required. There is no way that these self-made shelters can sustain a family for the required time.
This is the same as keeping a diving suite in your basement for the case of a flood. This only makes sense in the mind of a below 10 years old, but not in reality.
OmikronPsy
You realize that the earth is full of water which can easily be accessed by simple digging. You don't even have to dig far in many areas.
The fallout shelters were to protect against fallout. Radiation levels vary quite a bit after a nuclear incident. The shelters could have very well protected people and given them time to identify and get to a safer area.
Setting up a water supply needs to be done before hand, can't imagine digging in my basement with the outside world poisoned to find water. Groundwater would be contaminated as well since it mostly comes from the overground water cycle. Digging to find fossil water not connected to the surface is nothing that can be done after a nuclear strike that requires a shelter to survive the weeks or months after.
OmikronPsy
I had a conversation with my father about fallout shelters and he said the exact same thing. Most folks dont even think about that, he told me that if you built a very well made underground fallout shelter, it is possible to survive the blast but it literally has to be very deep.
He told me how deep but I forgot. And if you survive that, you would still die from radiation poisoning or you would die from lack of oxygen unless you have an enormous supply of oxygen tanks. And even if you have a well made shelter where the radiation won't get in the shelter and you do have an enormous amount of oxygen tanks, you still have limited amount of food and water and that will run out whether it be months to years and radiation tends to linger for more than 10 years depending on where the bombs were struck. Just look at Chernobyl.
If you really wanted to survive you would have to move to the most isolated place in whatever country your in and build your shelter there to avoid the bombs because most likely bombs will be dropped on big cities. There is a high possibility that radiation will spread nationwide but radiation levels will vary depending where the bombs dropped.
OmikronPsy sure it was to feel save, but also it was to make as little contact with fallout as possible and stay down till evacuations came.
What you're saying is totally true, but the general point of shelters were for the initial blast, and not the radioactivity. While a few academic knew in depth the results of radiation, in general, there just wasn't enough definitive science to convince the general public how horrific radiation can be.
You can see the reverse of this in modern-day apocalypse preppers: they have considered most of the things you've talked about, but with much less investment towards being safe during the initial blast.
(sorry for spelling mistakes, im on my phone :/ )
This is a glimpse of what could be Oscar-worthy documentary film-making. High quality enough to send shivers down the spine and leave a lasting effect. Pristine editing, presentation, and animation makes journalism like this an artform
that background sound "beee dum dum" is creepy tbh..especially at the end of the video
It's annoying as well!
no its a old film
Scarier makes it cooler
War never changes
Had to scroll waaay down to find this gem
There you go 50th thumb up from me.
What a cliché and it gets 60 likes rofl
I honestly think we need an organized, well known plan in case of emergencies.
It’s not enough for a few generals to know, because when the M-16s knock on my door I don’t know if they’re deserters or soldiers unless I have something to base it off
Thanks fallout commenters for softening the mood a bit. :-) But in all honesty, this is scary stuff! I don't want anybody to get hurt or have to live in fear.
But because a few jerks get their panties in a twist, they could throw many lives straight to hell. I want to hope there's still enough humanity in them to prevent that.
None have humanity, just self preservation. And nukes put their lives on a trigger, you push the button, your target will push theirs within minutes. Nukes at this point is nothing more than putting a sock in your pants at a bar, you probably aren't looking for anything, you just wanna make others respect you more.
Basement fallout shelter seems like a terrible idea, because when your house on top of you is collapsed and most likely set on fire, then it'll be like being trapped under a bonfire.
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Super huge nuclear weapons came into existence to compensate for inaccuracy in targeting. I dont think any country has anything approaching Tzar Bomba in actual stock today. I think the actual superpowers' average nuke size has decreased and the threat of a rogue nations nuclear weapons are also limited to tactical size and "suitcase" nukes. Maybe we should incourage that new buildings have areas that can serve as fallout shelters. Just a thought.
@@jnichols3 Russia has those bombs.
Mark Miller ok boomer.
FALLOUT not BLAST shelter. Good grief people, pay attention.
This is most definitely Vox's best video.
So you dismiss the fallout shelter because it wont service a nuclear blast? Of course it wont survive it is not a blast shelter it is a FALLOUT shelter. A blast shelter and fallout shelter are two totally different concepts so to say the fallout shelter is ineffective is completely incorrect. Also trying to say that surviving is a bad thing because you would emerge into a post nuclear war world is one of the stupidest concepts I've ever heard. We have seen first hand in Japan how easily cities can recover from nuclear war. Recovering from war is never an easy thing but for me it is far more preferable than death due to radiation.
Also to answer the question in the description; yes fallout shelters work as advertised. The need to stay sheltered is only there for about two weeks. After that it is safe to emerge from the shelter and evacuate the affected area. Also the hole duck and cover thing is to a good idea. If you are on the outskirts of the blast area your biggest problem is flying debri so ducking and covering could save your life.
Brendan Cribbs Thanks for your mature comments.. It's refreshing.. As an old crotchety guy nearing 60...I'm baffled by the insincerity and irresponsible attitudes of many younger people these days. In those like you, we may have hope yet.
Dude he literally said that in the video. You're getting angry over something he addressed anyway
About the part on Japan those were two cities that were attacked by basically a military grade crude nuclear device, small yield and low fallout. The main reason also for the cleanliness of the affected areas was due impart to the fact that the bombs were detonated in mid air about a mile to a half mile. Most of the energy went up and out additionally only 20% of the little boy bomb’s fissionable material actually fizzed. Hiroshima was flat and the pressure wave and flash burns are what caused the most casualties. Nagasaki was in a valley that surrounded it and the hills absorbed most of the energy.
The idea that radioactive fallout could successfully be kept completely out of a corner of someone's basement is pretty foolish, along with the idea of waiting two weeks and then emerging to recover and rebuild. There were still be a lot of radioactivity around - and much, or all, of the infrastructure would have been severely damaged or destroyed. Where will you get food or water? In the temperate zone, how are you going to survive the winter with no heat? A major missile war would have decimated huge sections of the USA, and there would be no undamaged areas to quickly provide emergency assistance.
A fallout shelter is not effective at all it is better not to live in a state that would be a target in the first place such as Alaska or hawaii lol.
Woah, this was pretty scary and depressing video vox! thought it was interesting and entertaining :)
VladimirDaGreat you should see the British stuff. Threads from 1980's and The War Game from 1960's. This stuff is light hearted compared to that.
never heard of those, I'll have to check out them out :)
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Ari Takalo it’s ok but not the same vibe.
Wait I always thought fallout shelters were for waiting out fallout, hence *fallout* shelter *not* for surviving a nuclear detonation. Quizzical I am :/
It’s both, like you get in before the blasts and stay in. The problem Vox is pointing out is that you would most likely be dead from the blast, and if you survived, you would be one of the few things to survive
Beautifully done. I don't mean to play down the importance of this video, because it really was informative, but please. Can you do a video on WHY PEOPLE USED TO HAVE THAT ACCENT THAT KENNEDY AND EVERY OTHER WHITE MALE IN THE US HAD AT THAT TIME. WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
It's called transatlantic accent plenty of videos on it already
I think it's just the audio recording software that gives everyone that tone.
It was the accent of Hollywood, very interesting story behind it. Kennedy has a little more of a Boston accents too
I remember I once saw a blooper from that time in which a performer was about to record, but he got distracted and basically the voice went away for a few moments while he was 'himself', and when he proceeded to recording he again put on that particular accent. Maybe it was perceived as clearer and more enunciated. I'll edit in a link if I find the video.
IVE ALWAYS WONDER THAT LIKE EVERY VIDEO OF THIS TIME PERIOD HAD A SIMILAR VOICE
Can you give credit to the one did the music editing in this video? :)
Actually though. Whoever it was, their work was a cut-above in this video.
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www.apmmusic.com/albums/SCDV-0417 all the music used go to 21,22,23 maybe thats what you are looking for.
The house I lived in as a kid was built in the 50's and the basement was built into a fallout shelter. It was in Canada too.
Problem is that area was going to be a primary target. I doubt the original owner would have survived being vaporized.
My fallout 4 shelter is doing just fine.
The nuclear threat lasted well into the 80's. You look like you're at least my age so you would remember the 70's and 80's. Fallout shelters fell out of favor not because of their stupidity (they're not), but because it was unrealistic to make one when the threat had pretty much evaporated due to reasonable diplomacy. Imagine that.
We don't have fallout shelters today because the world AS A WHOLE hated the idea of such mass destruction... at the time. These days it's largely the same, but it's different, but that's another topic.
EDIT: unrealistic... I meant unnecessary.
how ignorant. the possibility is still there...
Y’all are saying that the “DUM DUM, DEEDLE DUM DUM,” was scary but I actually loved that. I want my dad to make sample that and make a song with it.😂
I think my profile picture relates to this video ;)
Like Fallout Shelters? Go to Trenton, NJ. Theres like one in every school, church or warehouse.
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Good morning, vault tec calling
Charlie Vane *O not interested*
Go away just leave me and sean alone
this is real life not a game
earl gibson you know what humor is, don't you?
2:39 "No home in America is modern without a family fallout shelter" well its 2020 my home doesn't have one ;w;
Video: "You need to know about Fallout" 6:52. Every internet gaming nerd: "We already do!"
*stereotypical nerd voice* “Its not a game, its a semi-realistic art form.” *takes sip of cocacola in glass bottle with nuka cola label slapped on*
Oof
"Prepare For The Future..." -Vault Tec Rep, from Fallout 4.
This just reminds me that I don’t want to set the world on fire. I just want to start a flame in your heart
You may be surprised to learn that duck & cover isn't such a bad idea. Now, of course, if you're in the direct radius of the blast, yeah, there's a problem, but if you aren't, it can be a big help. You see, besides the fallout, the major killer from a nuclear blast is the immediate heat produced. As you learned in middle school science, hot air tends to rise. So, let's say, hypothetically, you're several miles away from the blast, and you see the light of the bomb. You then dive for the ground. Yeah, there's a fair chance you'll still get burned, but it could make the difference between a 3rd degree burn and a 2nd degree burn---something very important.
Also, if you're living out in the country and you have a cement bunker with walls on all sides anywhere from 6-12" thick (preferably more thick than less thick), then chances are you aren't going to get very irradiated.
When I was a kid, we were taught a modified version of 'Duck and Cover' as a part of tornado drills. We would go to a designated storm shelter area of our school, and ducking down was to protect us from flying debris. Where I live, tornadoes are a real danger.
Yes, there is a dead zone, but in every dead zone there is an even greater area around the zone that is survivable. I ducked and covered in school as a kid, and I was probably in a survivable zone. At the very least, can you imagine getting broken glass in your eyes at a time when there would be no one available to help you simply because you were too lazy to duck and cover?
People can go to a local hardware store and get a P100 dust mask for less than 10 dollars to keep fallout from getting into their lungs.
Hello from the future, this is such a funny and relevant argument after the anti-mask movement on early coronavirus break 🤣
@@UnironicallyToast Hellow future Kania! Glad you survived the nuclear blast! Er . . . I mean the COVID virus. {the first one hasn't happened yet, shhh 🤫} Just do what you can to survive. The world is a better place with you in it.
The first building you see in my town is a fallout shelter. As of now, it is inhabited only by stay cats and rodents. The upper half was an apartment area, where only one man lived, and the bottom half was made solely for nuclear fallout. Last year we were told to write about a story from our town or the town a family member lived in. I decided to write about the shelter, and was pretty surprised to find out that not everybody lives by one. Even with the internet and stuff, I still didn't realize that fallout shelters weren't as common as stores. Now, in my defence we only have one store (which is actually a gas station) so I didn't exactly have much to go off of.
War... War never changes
We did duck and cover in school. It didn't scare or traumatize us, it was just another strange thing the adults wanted us to do. I don't remember anyone who actually had a fallout shelter at home, but we saw the signs for the public ones everywhere.
Probably the ones who had, never talked about it. Keep it under the radar.
Props to whoever is in charge of sound and music for Vox videos
Using the Tsar bomba as an example is more than a tad bit unrealistic seeing as it was never intended to be used operationally, was not ICBM capable and was so heavy that even strapping it on a TU-95 would result in too poor range and speed performance to make it viable (It weighed the equivalent of 15 average cars), Not only that but its explosive radius was so high that it was actually less effective because much of its explosive force was actually radiated out into space. The highest yield deployed weapon used by the Soviet Union was the SS-18 Mod 3 with an explosive power of 25 Megatons, the same as the U.S.A's highest yield weapon, the B41. Lastly, even these largest yield deployed weapons were only really used in small numbers
Yeah but using the tsar bomba for scale it makes the video more dramatic :P
I dont want to set the world on Fire...-Creation Club
Genaro Siles but you did it anyway
Lmao
What about Pulowski: Nuclear Protection On A Budget ?
In game it's basically a scam
I've played fallout 4 and fallout new vegas so I think I'll survive
i've played 1,2 tactics 3 new vegas and 4
Only 3 and 2 are useful. Vegas was left intact so does not count.
360 no scope dank memes patrolling the mojave desert almost makes you which for a nuclear winter
I've never played the Fallout game series. Am I missing out?
I'd say yeah its funny and sad at the same time
silecrem honestly i played all of them and I got board
KayEffSeeMods honestly it's spelled *bored*
It's one of greatest game-series in existence, with a lot of lore
silecrem yes
The mixes of songs and music and sound in this are something I am almost obsessed with.
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Nvrmind, thats fine