Any other planet, especially outside of our solar system, would be astoundingly different than earth. We could probably not survive in those different environments considering (not exhaustive) oxygen and other gaseous levels, viral and bacterial differences never encountered by our immune system. But it would certainly be exciting to see mother world.
And he was wrong ;) (The cogito-argument assumes that there can be thinking without awareness of anything external to the mind, which is false because it mis-represents the meaning lf the word "think")
It's strange. Fifteen years ago I was excited by the thought of going to Mars, then I curtailed myself by thinking about visiting the Moon one day. Now I don't even want to leave the house. 😆
There must be a purpose for visiting Mars or the Moon.... such as bringing technology which will provide clear data of everything below the surface of the moon or Mars. These locations have virtually no atmosphere and a small leak in your spacesuit or spaceship means a painful death.
@@exoexpansion I THINK LIVING ON MARS IS NOT A GOOD IDEA. OR THE MOON. I AM HIGHLY SKEPTICAL.I JUST DON'T TRUST THESE CORPORATIONS.THERE ARE VALUABLE MINERALS ON THE MOON AND THE ASTEROIDS. COUNTRIES WILL HAVE DISAGREE AS TO WHO WILL OWN AN ASTEROID.SO MRS BROWN ITS PROBABLY JUST NOT AGE ITS HUMAN BEHAVIOR.
Mathew, have a stab at remote/ astral travel. This is a subject that the CIA etc have explored apparently… maybe something in it? And you will be carbon neutral? So it’s all good.. no lost luggage/delays etc take an astral torch 🔦 and check out the dark side of the moon ?
Me too, I'm just about to finish listening to it now. And of course I really enjoyed it! I was introduced to Phil and his work via the Crash Course Astronomy series here on RUclips, and I've been following him ever since! I didn't know he had a book coming out though, and even though I've historically never pre-ordered more than one or two books, I decided to do it for this upcoming one. It genuinely sounds excellent. Thanks for having him on, John!!
I loved how you guys highlighted the importance of critical thinking - looking at the evidence and seeing if what is being claimed makes sense given that evidence. I remember as a teenager, I saw a large rotating flat cylindrical object floating in the late evening sky over the city (I was viewing from a mountainside overlooking the city below). the diameter was, perhaps, 4X the height of the cylinder. There were a dozen or so rows of bright lights all around the curved side of this object that looked like the windows of an airplane or the portholes on an ocean-liner. I could even see a lighted spindle that ran through the center of the object as it hovered motionless, rotating over the city, and then slowly started moving southwards. A real UFO! Definitely and clearly and unambiguously a flying craft of some kind - maybe even of extraterrestrial origin! And it was *huge*, if the size of those lights were the size of windows! 🤩 No. 👽 As I watched, the object slowly changed direction and it became clear that what I was *actually* seeing was a small airplane with lights strung under the wings, from wingtip to wingtip. What looked like a floating spacecraft the size of an office block, was actually a crop-duster style plane that had rows of lights strung underneath to create scrolling advertisements like an LED light sign. 😹 An early lesson for me in how easy it it is to see exactly what you *want* to see.
Once I was waiting for the bus at night when I looked up and saw a giant ball of light just hovering in the sky. I've never seen anything like it before or since. I literally could not believe what I was seeing so I just kept staring at it until eventually some clouds which I couldn't see before moved and revealed it was the moon.
Love how UAPs are now off the list of forbidden topics, though I'm still amazed that in 200 incidents of rich, multi sensor data involving radars on ships and airplanes, infrared, multiple ground and air based trained observers and cameras, they focus on one or two images and use that dismiss any discussion on it. It's not one or two blurry pictures it's the most sophisticated combined sensory array ( a nuclear powered aircraft carrier task force) encountering a baffling phenomena 200 times in two years. Dropped the ball on this one.
I knew this would be a bust when the word "skeptic" was like the fifth word in on the guest introduction. If someone's pride is being skeptical, it's no better than talking to someone that thinks everything is a conspiracy or anything even slightly weird is paranormal.
I had one experience with UAPs (I think) when I was in the Navy. A couple or three red lights in a silent formation seeming to track with our ship (not jets or planes). We watched them from the deck for a while, and I went to the bridge to check radar. No radar contacts had been recorded. No idea what that was about. 🤷♂
200 unexplained incidents in two years is nothing until you can show they're all related and all caused by the same phenomena. Like the man said, just becuase we haven't explained it yet doesn't mean its aliens. The burden of proof is on the person making the claims, not the skeptic.
Because like it was discussed in the video, the evidence isn’t that good. One of the more famous UAPs which airforce pilots have described is a radar device that has been patented since the 1960s. 90% of this UAP stuff is total nonsense and the rest like was discussed in the video most likely has a mundane explanation, don’t think that governments are fully honest about what technology they have and don’t, because they are not. We all want it to be Aliens but unfortunately the evidence is just not there!
The thing about eclipse is freaky. I've only been through a partial one and that was weird. The contrast of shadows didn't change at all, but the light definitely dimmed. It feels like there's an overcast sky so everything is darker and dimmer, but the sky can be clear and shadows are crisp and sharp.
John has slowly become my favorite interviewer out there. Always such poignant questions, and a vast understanding of so many subjects. We gotta get this channel closer to the 1M subscriber mark because John and crew certainly deserve it!
Who cares about subscriber counts? The fact that this doesn’t have a million + subscribers is why I listen to the videos. I don’t want some mainstream channel.
Don't worry folks, if we never make it to a million, that's fine. If we do, that's fine too. What's important is the content quality and feel of the channels. I seek to create content that you as an intelligent audience find worthwhile. Sure, I could send subscriptions through the roof if I went more mainstream, but that's just not me. I'm fundamentally still an old school RUclipsr, which means my content should reflect me, and it does. I wouldn't ever change that. Oddly, I don't think I'd actually be a very good interviewer if I went mainstream. What you guys hear in my content is all about my personal interests. This is why I can do it from an informed and engaged position. If I had to widen the circle outside of my interests, I'd probably be terrible at it. Thankfully my interests are very wide, but if I had to interview a sports figure or a Kardashian or something, I'd bomb badly from lack of interest and knowledge base. I know my limits lol.
@@JohnMichaelGodier Thanks for that brilliant wholesome response that I certainly wasn't expecting lol. You're doing a great job as it is sir and I appreciate you staying the course of what you know matters. Much respect.
I'm also not firmly in the belief that we are curreny being visited but you're definitely being to dismissal of the UAP phenomenon. It's not just the handful of small videos it's the regular occurrence that the USAF has with them. The stories that our pilots are telling most certainly should not be dismissed so casually when they ARE, in fact, experts of all things related to what's normal up there
Im 10 minutes in and know i wont be finishing this one. Excitement brings research. Skepticism provides nothing. But motivation i suppose. Its my speculating that will cause me to investigate. But i already know from what youve said that your idea of investigation is very surface level.
And what always makes me roll my eyes is the claim that aliens wouldn't use their technology in this or that way because it's inefficient or wasteful or unscientific. Look around. Do we use use our resources and technology in the most intelligent, purposeful ways? Or do we leave every light on and the air conditioner running and the TV on while we drive to the McDonald's a hundred yards down the street? Aliens would be people, too, and there's no reason they should be perfectly rational about everything.
The biggest problem with skepticism.. is that there are too many people who just don’t know how to use/apply it. That is to say.. far too often, when something is not EASILY explained by the mundane, those people will automatically make a fantastical leap to an “explanation” which is far more SENSATIONAL. “If it is not CLEARLY a plane.. it MUST be aliens.” “If it is not CLEARLY a weather balloon.. it MUST be aliens.” “If it is not CLEARLY an artifact of the camera.. it MUST be aliens.” Such people forego “scientific thinking” in favor of “jumping to conclusions”.. and that is simply NOT how real science works. That said.. on two separate occasions, I have seen things in the sky which defy all logical explanations that I can think of. I can say that this makes it seem “quite possible” that it could have been alien visitors.. but if asked to definitively say what those things ACTUALLY were.. the only accurate answer I can give is, “I don’t know.” THAT is how critical thought works.
👽'Something' is definitely here on Earth, whether it's from outer space or deep within the Earth is the question. If an object travels fast than the speed of light, will we be able to see something left behind?. I saw something fly over our house moving very slowly when I was in high school in the middle of the night at about 100 feet up. It made no sound, and I couldn't distinguish its shape, other than think it was triangular due to the lights on it. I know for a fact I was not sleep walking nor asleep, because I was very excited and thrilled at the same time watching it fly right over our house(I opened the window). I then ran to the back bedroom(Brothers) and waited for it to come over the roof. I waited and waited to no avail. My biggest mistake was not waking my younger brother when I first started seeing the lights coming while I was laying in bed and woke up watching it get closer. And that's all I have to say about that. Cheers Blessings.🙏.
Sometimes I think maybe you're thinking too much along the lines of science fiction and are overly optimistic about the near future, then you have a guest that brings it all back to reality without totally shredding all hope, and Phil Plait is that guest. How important is it that we have proof that we're not alone? Every time I ask myself that question, I just remind myself that the galaxy is unimaginably big on its own, let alone the Universe. All those other sentient, spacefaring species out there face the same problems of physics that we do, and that's enough for me to be content with lack of contact, yet keeps me hopeful enough to support continued exploration. Therefore, I don't think it's important at all.
Being a skeptic is not the characteristic of dismissing things that are outside of your experience. That's called being a debunker. That guy is not a skeptic. He's somebody who is trying to preserve a conventional model of the world. I've seen two phenomena that have no conceivable conventional explanation. I don't have a presumption that they represent beings from an extra-solar planet. But I know that the most parsimonious hypothesis for them is that they are manifestations of some kind of intelligence that is outside the framework of the known social world. What the nature of that is, is unknown to me-- there are a number of options that are available to our imagination. But there is also the possibility that they are of a nature that has no cognates in our mentality at all. My skepticism prohibits me from prematurely assigning an identification to them, and my skepticism also prevents me from assigning a conventional, but farfetched, explanation to them. I know they're real. I know they're profoundly mysterious. I know they're not some secret military tech. I know that they're not phenomena that can be understood as some kinds of previously known natural phenomena. I also know that the odds that they are not controlled by some kind of high intelligence is remote. That's the majority of what I know. But I also know that anybody who thinks the overall phenomenon of UAPs could have conventional explanations is ignoring huge amounts of evidence. I listened to the hypothetical explanations this guy suggested. They don't come close to covering a huge amount of reliable data that is in our possession at this time. I'm an old guy. I hope I manage to hold on until the day that these "skeptics" get the shock of their lives, and I'm burning with curiosity to learn the facts. I've no doubt that, after THEY'VE been debunked, the "skeptics" will still have some rationale for why their position was nevertheless valid at the time they were being "skeptical".
So visual effects can be a thing. As far as I know, military RADAR don't pick up visual effects. When you have ship based RADAR, fighter plane RADAR, plane based infra red camera and another visual light camera, plus a fighter pilot trained to observe and distinguish things in the sky (and their size, position and velocity), because their lives depend on it, all saying there is something there moving in a way our technology can't, that is fairly compelling evidence that whatever it is, it is no mirage. Do Astronomers always have four independent observations confirming their subjects of study?
@@thekaxmax There is a huge amount of evidence that some of these UAPs are objectively and behave in ways that are not just completely outside of known technology, but profoundly outside of known physics. They are not some sort of secret military technology. That is a last ditch, far-fetched hypothesis grasped at by those who wish to defend a conventional model of reality.
I think that due to the lengths of time necessary for space exploration, that we might have to send an AI to go ahead and send information back to us. Maybe our first contact with alien life might be via a sophisticated AI explorer. What a wonderful way to show that we are an intelligent and inquisitive species.
Alright I was about to write a whole chapter about the Deep Impact mission which is my fav of all but I gonna go to sleep with that Hubble deep field / grain of sand comparison that just blew my mind and will be back tomorrow for the small essay. Thank you both, never stop John
UAPs have 5 observables: 1) Anti-gravity lift Unlike any known aircraft, these objects have been sighted overcoming the earth’s gravity with no visible means of propulsion. They also lack any flight surfaces, such as wings. In the Nimitz incident, witnesses describe the crafts as tubular, shaped like a Tic Tac candy. 2) Sudden and instantaneous acceleration The objects may accelerate or change direction so quickly that no human pilot could survive the g-forces-they would be crushed. In the Nimitz incident, radar operators say they tracked one of the UFOs as it dropped from the sky at more than 30 times the speed of sound. Black Aces squadron commander David Fravor, the Nimitz-based fighter pilot who was sent to intercept one of the objects, likened its rapid side-to-side movements, later captured on infrared video, to that of a ping-pong ball. Radar operators on the USS Princeton, part of the Nimitz carrier group, tracked the object accelerating from a standing position to traveling 60 miles in a minute-an astounding 3,600 miles an hour. According to manufacturer Boeing, the F/A 18 Super Hornet fighter jet typically currently reaches a maximum speed of Mach 1.6, or about 1,200 miles an hour. 3) Hypersonic velocities without signatures If an aircraft travels faster than the speed of sound, it typically leaves "signatures," like vapor trails and sonic booms. Many UFO accounts note the lack of such evidence. 4) Low observability, or cloaking Even when objects are observed, getting a clear and detailed view of them-either through pilot sightings, radar or other means-remains difficult. Witnesses generally only see the glow or haze around them. 5) Trans-medium travel Some UAP have been seen moving easily in and between different environments, such as space, the earth’s atmosphere and even water. In the Nimitz incident, witnesses described a UFO hovering over a churning "disturbance" just under the ocean's otherwise calm surface, leading to speculation that another craft had entered the water. USS Princeton radar operator Gary Vorhees later confirmed from a Navy sonar operator in the area that day that a craft was moving faster than 70 knots, roughly two times the speed of nuclear subs. No one has yet gotten close to crafts that display these traits, so their origins are still unknown. Are they a super-top-secret U.S. defense project? Do they hail from Russia? China? Or from even further afield? The only thing we do know is that their capabilities exceed any technologies currently in the U.S. arsenal.
I disagree with the statement that people don't look up in the sky enough to figure out if what they are seeing is mundane or not. Having witnessed something myself and the people I know who have seen something strange, watch the sky frequently, especially after the sighting! I'm not saying its aliens. I'm just saying, it's not always local planets/ birds/ planes/ or aerial phenomenon such as ball lightning.
Visual effects. I once saw a town, in detail, cars and pedestrians moving, apparently in our field 1/4 mile away. Knew the town and it is 20 miles from where it appeared. A very clear mirage. As real as the bend in a pencil immersed in a glass of water. But questions about why and how light bends was part of the basis of physics.
That he's a circus clown con jobber.... biggest swindler of our century. Basically. At least that's what I would guess. His problem still though, is the frauds the scammer commits. His frauds. Pretending its the first ever and that it has advantages... th disco lighting of sorts. NASA already successfully landed several new shuttle designs using rocket re-entry landing. The projects were halted for a variety of reasons, but chief among them was that it wasn't practical, it did not solve the cost problem in fact it made it worse. Re-entry landing rockets mean one must place more rocket fuel which is 90% of the cost of rocket launches. And this greatly reduces payload as you have to keep so much fuel onboard for re-entry. When the alternative of a parachute landing after using the earth atmosphere to help slow down, is very cheap. And parachutes on boosters and main frames landing on land or sea are viable for recovery; as they were with the Space Shuttle. In the end, you gain absolutely nothing in terms of cost savings nor frequency increase in reuse-ability.... the cost goes even higher, payload sizes shrink substantially, and you still must perform a thorough refurbishment of the rockets. There is no savings. Only added costs... for what? Disco lights. Fancy flair... an ooo and an ah! Very expensive ewhs and ahhhs! that diminish into a yawn or a roll of the eye after the third or fourth observation. Then you discover the reality those rockets are costing even more for less... causing projects to get further behind. And some big projects canceled altogether... and you discover it's because of a charleton who usually uses disco lighting and occasional dancing mimes to snare his victims into his scams... is using an airshow circus stunt sideshow... big theater, absolutely ruin behind it though as it pushes up costs for the clown cars, and destroys actual progress toward larger goals. You realize the tax payer, the actual researchers, the astronauts, engineers, etc. all have been harmed with higher costs and less accomplishments. For a few giggles and squiggles in the short run. By carnival barker. Recent expose narrated by actor William Shatner put the scammer's modus operandi as: "...his life long love of inventing things that already exist." ruclips.net/video/6gy5P45hEN4/видео.html
It’s funny to hear Phil mention Star Trek. Every time I hear your voice John I picture Riker Jonathan Frakes. I use to watch Beyond Belief I think you sound just like him.
John Godier has never seen an UFO not because such sightings are rare, but because when you're an Alien inside an UFO, it's hard to spot another UFO in the sky apart from Fravor's jet.
Unfortunately, we do not have access to the classified evidence of uap. However, occasionally we get hints from people who do, and Lue Elizondo is one such person. Though that is not classed as evidence, the fact that there is a uap task force, shows us there is something there.
After listening to pilots like Ryan Greaves and David Fravor, I'm convinced we have something that originated from a non-human intelligence visiting our planet. Too many sightings by highly credible witnesses. One or two of these would be one thing, but hundreds over a decade, also caught on radar, is impossible to dismiss.
Don't doubt human innovation. If those UAPs arent nature or hallucinations then they are most likely tested enemy technology. This channel divotes a lot of time into the fermi paradox.
Too many sightings are based on bad technology and extremely bad interpretations of the 'evidence' from that bad technology. I hate to be that downer guy, but go watch someone who is proficient in video technology describing just how Un-UFO these ufo sightings are, and how the actual camera technology produces most/all of them.
But if you listen close to both of them. They say they don’t believe this is an alien inteligence. But maybe some cain of form of life based on earth. Maybe under the oceans. But we don’t have any proof to say we have aliens visiting us. We don’t know.
@@EventHorizonShow I saw one as a child. I suspect that it was some kind of balloon. Or a blimp airship but it looked like it lost much of the gas inside so it looke like a banana.
7:25 iv seen a satellite that was extreamly bright and fast moving. First time i saw it it scared me to death, and then I saw it every night at the same time. Quickly realised it was just a satellite that happened to reflect a crazy amount of light due to the time of the year and position of the sun below the horizon, but if i had only seen it that one time, I probably would have thought it was a UFO (especially since i was just a few miles from Calvine which had a very famous UFO sighting)
I can remember 2 similar events in my life. The first was (like you) a satellite moving fairly quickly across the night sky. The second (and honestly the one that freaked me out the most until I did some research) was sighting ball lightning.
One night, I saw some objects in the sky.. quite distant, above the horizon, I thought at first that they were stars. What first struck me as “odd” about them.. was the way they shimmered, and “shifted” through a spectrum of colors. I thought that perhaps this was due to atmospheric conditions. But then some of them moved. At first, just a little bit.. up, down, left, right.. just small, random movements.. of no more than one or two degrees (as viewed from my vantage point). But then, one of them did something quite remarkable. It traveled across the sky in an arc, to the opposite horizon in about three or four seconds.. stopped, repeated some of the up, down, left, right movements.. then returned (again in about three or four seconds) to rejoin the others. I, and a few other people, watched for a while as they continued the small movements, until I had to leave. I’ve never seen anything like it since.. and to this day.. I have NO idea what they were. 🤷♂️
Hypothetically. If alien craft visited earth and were staying in earths orbit for several months untill they moved on. Would you accept a visitor pass to go on thier craft for a sightseeing tour?
My theory is the more Earth-like the planet, the more Earth-like the life. Any divergence in gravity from Earth-norm, or any divergence from atmospheric pressure would favour evolutionary solutions that look more 'alien'. With plant-analogues, the star type would influence colour and arrangement of 'leaves'. 'Plants' on on a Earth-like planet orbiting a Sun-like star might look eerily similar. Form follows function.
Turning to dust ... I used to watch "The Invaders", an old B&W TV serial, when the parents were out. Like an early version of The X-Files. When an alien died it just ... turned to dust. There was no body that anyone could use as evidence.
@@rossmcleod7983 still a lot more than most people. Actually, we know that all that is dark matter and dark energy; we can see the effects of both. We just don't know exactly what each is yet. Emphasis on 'yet'.
As a true skeptic, I have trouble rationalizing things I have seen. Two instances that my understanding of reality can't explain, and they certainly were entitites - not just strange lights in the sky. In the house I used to live in. I have come to terms that I may never understand. There was the benevolent, and the malevolent. Perhaps balance?
Can anybody explain how consciousness works? Do you know about the light-slit experiment? The act of observing light turns it from a wave into a particle, yet even thinking about the experiment also turns it from a wave into a particle, even from the other side of the planet. There is much more to our universe than we know
@@londonspade5896 "...yet even thinking about the experiment also turns it from a wave into a particle, even from the other side of the planet..." Sources, please.
Camping in Utah in the evening we (2 people), witnessed three white glowing globes floating over head, rather low, just above the trees. They can over head and disappeared!
I honestly don't think anyone would be seasick for an entire trip, just as they generally aren't on sea voyages. After a while you find your sea legs*. At sea, it usually takes about three days. Then you're fine for the rest of the trip unless the weather gets bad. Then when you get back on solid ground, you'll find yourself having the jelly leg where you swear the ground is moving. This also can last a few days. Not saying you should go to space, other than maybe one of the sub-orbital publicity stunt flights, just that this is not a particularly good reason to avoid a long mission. Space sickness might, ironically, be more of a problem with moon trips because you're going to be the most sick when you need to be the most useful. I think a Mars-bound ship is going to have spin gravity living areas, although they might be at 0.38g. Personally I'd still love to go to space. But I don't particularly want to live there. A brief visit will suffice. *Unless you're drowning it in Dramamine. Then you never get your sea legs.
I cannot take seriously anyone who casually dismisses thousands upon thousands eyewitness reports of UFO activity since the 1940's. Especially from on duty commercial and military pilots, radar operators and other sworn military and law enforcement professionals. It's one thing as a scientist to say my field of study requires a strict adherence to the scientific method before I can make an assessment as a scientist. It's another thing to mock and dismiss any reports or investigations that by it's very nature cannot employ the scientific methods to determine what happened. There are many things that cannot be assessed, measured, or calibrated in a lab such as how much someone loves family members. It doesn't mean nobody loves their spouse or children. It just cannot be measured. The same with witnessing UFO activity. It cannot be analyzed or recreated in a lab but that doesn't mean it does not exist and can be casually mocked and dismissed.
You cannot measure directly but you can observe and notice patterns. And then you can dismiss it until some interesting evidence comes in. Pilots' reports were hardly dismissed. They just happen to be like everything else - uninteresting, attention seeking content.
Scientists need to actively identify the most common locations of real UFOs and then actively provide live footage when working to bring one down and capture it. Ideally this should not happen in the USA, China, Russia or other top countries since they have a very aggressive government for taking this for themselves and hiding it. I would recommend a country such as Mexico and have plans for moving any UFO technology to a private university, but the only way for the world to honestly believe the evidence needs to be provided. Even with all these precautions one of the top governments will eventually claim the UFO as belonging to them and will try taking it.
A very interesting guest with interesting things to say, also a good conversationalist. I was lucky to experience a total solar eclipse as a young lad, as we stood in a farmers field in Cornwall. It was indeed as he described it. Even being a child at the time I remember it being eerie watching the cows go to sleep and the trees and grass all taking on a different and haunting quality. It felt like a glimpse into the end of the world.
It wouldn’t be fun and kinda boring if it was just human 2.0 imagine a winged civilization and humanoid beast civilization or a humanoid underwater civilization. I hope it’s like something fantasy/sci-fi in a way.
You know, even if i had a good camera i doubt it would have caught this but back in highschool my buddies and i were camping way out in texas. Such a beautiful sky and we were just talking laying down staring at the sky. I spotted a "shooting star" and said look at that! This light proceded to clearly not be in out atmosphere as it was just.....so far away. And then BOOM it started spinning with another star for like 20 seconds. We all stared in disbelief and then it slingshotted away. I didn't even know what a gravity sling was at the time but holy crap did it scare me
I don't find it hard to believe that some alien may be somewhat similar to us. There are only so many ways, chemically, that life can operate after all. And nature tends to go with what works. How many times have wings evolved? Mammals, birds, insects ... All have developed flight, but all in very different ways. Prehensile tails? That one has been around the block as well.
I will NEVER thumbs down a JMG video. However, I usually get triggered by self proclaimed skeptics and I like to project all my problems on them! All joking aside, I’d like to make the remark that there would be no need for skeptics if their wasn’t at least a small degree of uncertainty in their skepticism. Which is why I appreciate the hell outta JMGs humble yet open mindedness, which he usually makes pretty apparent :)
I think the majority of skeptics have become more humble in their approach to explaining their threshold for belief. But there a still a few of will shout Russel's teapot and blobsquatch at you and that's a bummer.
Yeah how would things look like if you were actually there. Like Star Wars asteroid fields. If you were in an actual asteroid belt, you wouldnt see a single asteroid. You wouldnt know it. Same with a nebula. Looking at a black hole the way its pictured in movies and on pictures. In Interstellar, for example. That shape of the accretion disc filling the entire horizon... Its like... How does the sun look? It doesnt look like anything at all. Because your eyes are just overwhelmed by light. The same as the accretion disc from a black hole. Only at that distance, it would be like staring directly into a nuclear bomb. The only way to safely observe certain events is from a compter screen with photoshopped images. Outside our own solar system, nothing really has colour.
You’re looking at the sky but you’re not flying f16s over the ocean and almost hitting cubes inside of a clear spheres. I’ll take pilots views on ufos before I take yours.
@@nicks7835 I'm curious what part of his politics they take issue with. As to Russia and Ukraine he's seeking a peaceful solution and an end to the war as I understand it.
The guest didn't get into that so not sure what it matters? I really like Musk and think he's a force for good but it doesn't bother me if people disagree.
Glad to hear him dismiss the recent "UAP" bs. Theres nothing actually new about it and I hops it fades away quickly, to give time for more important matters
I remember watching a solar eclipse and as awe inspiring as it was, what really struck me was the sudden and rapid cooling of the air around me. It was mid-summer so quite warm but that drop in temperature really struck me.
When relating to life form and evolution, the environment shapes life, divergent evolution is a hot topic now, many traits repeat themselves numerous times. Brains and eyes evolved independently numerous times (the eyes 40 different times) also in species Like crab like animals, dolphin and shark like reptiles, bats flying reptiles and bird etc… if you have the same molecules and composition on another planet there will be one planet out there where aliens will look very similar to us.
Major Corso , I believe.. relates how one of the guards who wasn’t briefed about alien presence on U.S. base… saw one of the aliens in a corridor and suffered a heart attack.. re: Day After Roswell book. This suggests to me at least that they is UGLY! 😱😱😱😱
They may or may not look similar to us physically but what about mentally? The fact that they may look like us doesn't have to mean that they think like us.
I love Phil Plait & share his skepticism over UFO/UAPs But his criteria for evidence are silly The thing has to land on the Whitehouse lawn and/or walk up to you for a chat?
If a craft is capable of manipulating gravity for propulsive drive, could that same gravity manipulation control light and change its appearance as well? Magic or technology?
technology. Magic has never been shown to exist. and yes, IF such a thing exists, it can manipulate light. We know that gravity does that (gravitational lensing, black holes)
Great interview, right up to the point where Phil thought it necessary to bring-in his anti-American, leftist political agenda, with his quick jab at Elon Musk. I’m no Elon fanboy; simply a Patriot, with respect for those that respect our nation. I know the guests can’t be controlled, and there’s a great effort to keep politics out of the discussion, but Phil immediately crashed his credibility and I tuned-out and removed the, “like.”
Where’s the compelling data? I’ve yet to see a video that showcases any of the signature characteristics that Lue always talks about. Everything we’ve seen has a natural explanation that fits within our understanding of causality. Where’s the video of ships traveling at tens of thousands of miles an hour? Where’s the video of them violating the conservation of energy by stopping on a dime & turning? Where’s the video of them warping spacetime? The most compelling video I’ve seen was the pentagon video that showed the orb entering the water. Which in itself isn’t unexplainable either. Humanity has created flying submarines, and has done so since the 1920’s. Which leads me to believe it’s secretive human tech. There’s just literally nothing available to us to watch that proves without a doubt it’s alien. There just isn’t.
@@gravoc857 In England, August '81 during a Summer school holiday @3am, me and my brother watched a slightly fuzzy orangey light about magnitude 2 ish, flying steady east to west at high altitude airliner speed - but which suddenly performed right-angle and *acute* angle movements - no turns ,no curves- when overhead. Just like a snooker(pool) ball bouncing off the cushions . Totally silent as it did this stuff. It reversed back and carried on steady for more seconds west -then suddenly jumped in speed like being fired from a catapult. We then heard ,about 5 seconds later, a distant low rumble. Lost it in the city centre skyglow soon after. No photos . Video was only just invented . But it's saved in my brain. :) Interestingly ,the US air bases of Mildenhall and Lakenheath were about 83 miles due east of our location.Virtually the exact same direction the object appeared from. Maybe testing anti-gravity tech? Who knows? Thanks
What do you think it’s like on an Alien planet? Would you go to space?
In a heartbeat....
! 💝 💯 👏 🎉 🎃 🙏 🚀 👍 🤖 🎅 ✝ 🌝 !
As long as I could come back home. I like this planet.
Any other planet, especially outside of our solar system, would be astoundingly different than earth. We could probably not survive in those different environments considering (not exhaustive) oxygen and other gaseous levels, viral and bacterial differences never encountered by our immune system. But it would certainly be exciting to see mother world.
Only if you stop discounting international military and government reports of UAP.
“We do not describe the world we see, we see the world we can describe.” - Rene Descartes.
It's like 10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife... ~Alanis Morissette
And he was wrong ;)
(The cogito-argument assumes that there can be thinking without awareness of anything external to the mind, which is false because it mis-represents the meaning lf the word "think")
New to this, sorry.......who is Descartes?
@@faizanrana2998 Oh! I get it now......
@@Virtueman1…
From consciousness.. all else emerges.
It's strange. Fifteen years ago I was excited by the thought of going to Mars, then I curtailed myself by thinking about visiting the Moon one day. Now I don't even want to leave the house. 😆
That's age 😄
Some day soon, you'll not even want to leave your rocking chair.
There must be a purpose for visiting Mars or the Moon.... such as bringing technology which will provide clear data of everything below the surface of the moon or Mars. These locations have virtually no atmosphere and a small leak in your spacesuit or spaceship means a painful death.
@@exoexpansion I THINK LIVING ON MARS IS NOT A GOOD IDEA. OR THE MOON. I AM HIGHLY SKEPTICAL.I JUST DON'T TRUST THESE CORPORATIONS.THERE ARE VALUABLE MINERALS ON THE MOON AND THE ASTEROIDS. COUNTRIES WILL HAVE DISAGREE AS TO WHO WILL OWN AN ASTEROID.SO MRS BROWN ITS PROBABLY JUST NOT AGE ITS HUMAN BEHAVIOR.
Mathew, have a stab at remote/ astral travel. This is a subject that the CIA etc have explored apparently… maybe something in it? And you will be carbon neutral? So it’s all good.. no lost luggage/delays etc take an astral torch 🔦 and check out the dark side of the moon ?
Just wanted to say that I appreciate this interview. Phil is one of my favorite scientists. This is a real treat. Thank you J.M.G.
Me too, I'm just about to finish listening to it now. And of course I really enjoyed it!
I was introduced to Phil and his work via the Crash Course Astronomy series here on RUclips, and I've been following him ever since! I didn't know he had a book coming out though, and even though I've historically never pre-ordered more than one or two books, I decided to do it for this upcoming one. It genuinely sounds excellent.
Thanks for having him on, John!!
I loved how you guys highlighted the importance of critical thinking - looking at the evidence and seeing if what is being claimed makes sense given that evidence.
I remember as a teenager, I saw a large rotating flat cylindrical object floating in the late evening sky over the city (I was viewing from a mountainside overlooking the city below). the diameter was, perhaps, 4X the height of the cylinder. There were a dozen or so rows of bright lights all around the curved side of this object that looked like the windows of an airplane or the portholes on an ocean-liner. I could even see a lighted spindle that ran through the center of the object as it hovered motionless, rotating over the city, and then slowly started moving southwards. A real UFO! Definitely and clearly and unambiguously a flying craft of some kind - maybe even of extraterrestrial origin! And it was *huge*, if the size of those lights were the size of windows! 🤩
No. 👽
As I watched, the object slowly changed direction and it became clear that what I was *actually* seeing was a small airplane with lights strung under the wings, from wingtip to wingtip. What looked like a floating spacecraft the size of an office block, was actually a crop-duster style plane that had rows of lights strung underneath to create scrolling advertisements like an LED light sign. 😹
An early lesson for me in how easy it it is to see exactly what you *want* to see.
Once I was waiting for the bus at night when I looked up and saw a giant ball of light just hovering in the sky. I've never seen anything like it before or since. I literally could not believe what I was seeing so I just kept staring at it until eventually some clouds which I couldn't see before moved and revealed it was the moon.
@@LMarti13 You were Moon-struck! 😁
This is the kind of comment that I'm looking forward to reading on RUclips! Thanks to both you and @LMarti13 for sharing your stories.
@@User-jr7vf I'm glad you liked our stories! Thank you!
Fan of you both, found Phil the bad astronomer late 90s as a kid. Good times
Love how UAPs are now off the list of forbidden topics, though I'm still amazed that in 200 incidents of rich, multi sensor data involving radars on ships and airplanes, infrared, multiple ground and air based trained observers and cameras, they focus on one or two images and use that dismiss any discussion on it. It's not one or two blurry pictures it's the most sophisticated combined sensory array ( a nuclear powered aircraft carrier task force) encountering a baffling phenomena 200 times in two years. Dropped the ball on this one.
I knew this would be a bust when the word "skeptic" was like the fifth word in on the guest introduction. If someone's pride is being skeptical, it's no better than talking to someone that thinks everything is a conspiracy or anything even slightly weird is paranormal.
I had one experience with UAPs (I think) when I was in the Navy. A couple or three red lights in a silent formation seeming to track with our ship (not jets or planes). We watched them from the deck for a while, and I went to the bridge to check radar. No radar contacts had been recorded. No idea what that was about. 🤷♂
200 unexplained incidents in two years is nothing until you can show they're all related and all caused by the same phenomena.
Like the man said, just becuase we haven't explained it yet doesn't mean its aliens. The burden of proof is on the person making the claims, not the skeptic.
Because like it was discussed in the video, the evidence isn’t that good. One of the more famous UAPs which airforce pilots have described is a radar device that has been patented since the 1960s.
90% of this UAP stuff is total nonsense and the rest like was discussed in the video most likely has a mundane explanation, don’t think that governments are fully honest about what technology they have and don’t, because they are not.
We all want it to be Aliens but unfortunately the evidence is just not there!
@@lafelong There are so many of these reports. Weird, right?!?
The thing about eclipse is freaky. I've only been through a partial one and that was weird. The contrast of shadows didn't change at all, but the light definitely dimmed. It feels like there's an overcast sky so everything is darker and dimmer, but the sky can be clear and shadows are crisp and sharp.
John has slowly become my favorite interviewer out there. Always such poignant questions, and a vast understanding of so many subjects. We gotta get this channel closer to the 1M subscriber mark because John and crew certainly deserve it!
Who cares about subscriber counts? The fact that this doesn’t have a million + subscribers is why I listen to the videos. I don’t want some mainstream channel.
I think he should be bigger because I'm sure he'd like more listeners and more money. Not that crazy 🤣
@@sketcharmslong6289 greed, corruption and everything else that comes alone with fortune and fame. Yeah no thanks.
Don't worry folks, if we never make it to a million, that's fine. If we do, that's fine too. What's important is the content quality and feel of the channels. I seek to create content that you as an intelligent audience find worthwhile. Sure, I could send subscriptions through the roof if I went more mainstream, but that's just not me. I'm fundamentally still an old school RUclipsr, which means my content should reflect me, and it does. I wouldn't ever change that.
Oddly, I don't think I'd actually be a very good interviewer if I went mainstream. What you guys hear in my content is all about my personal interests. This is why I can do it from an informed and engaged position. If I had to widen the circle outside of my interests, I'd probably be terrible at it. Thankfully my interests are very wide, but if I had to interview a sports figure or a Kardashian or something, I'd bomb badly from lack of interest and knowledge base. I know my limits lol.
@@JohnMichaelGodier Thanks for that brilliant wholesome response that I certainly wasn't expecting lol. You're doing a great job as it is sir and I appreciate you staying the course of what you know matters. Much respect.
I'm also not firmly in the belief that we are curreny being visited but you're definitely being to dismissal of the UAP phenomenon. It's not just the handful of small videos it's the regular occurrence that the USAF has with them. The stories that our pilots are telling most certainly should not be dismissed so casually when they ARE, in fact, experts of all things related to what's normal up there
The military is taking UAP seriously nowadays, but they are still overwhelmingly spy drones and mis-identification of normal phenomena.
Im 10 minutes in and know i wont be finishing this one. Excitement brings research. Skepticism provides nothing. But motivation i suppose. Its my speculating that will cause me to investigate. But i already know from what youve said that your idea of investigation is very surface level.
In this case you're refers to this phil guy.
And what always makes me roll my eyes is the claim that aliens wouldn't use their technology in this or that way because it's inefficient or wasteful or unscientific. Look around. Do we use use our resources and technology in the most intelligent, purposeful ways? Or do we leave every light on and the air conditioner running and the TV on while we drive to the McDonald's a hundred yards down the street? Aliens would be people, too, and there's no reason they should be perfectly rational about everything.
The biggest problem with skepticism.. is that there are too many people who just don’t know how to use/apply it.
That is to say.. far too often, when something is not EASILY explained by the mundane, those people will automatically make a fantastical leap to an “explanation” which is far more SENSATIONAL.
“If it is not CLEARLY a plane.. it MUST be aliens.”
“If it is not CLEARLY a weather balloon.. it MUST be aliens.”
“If it is not CLEARLY an artifact of the camera.. it MUST be aliens.”
Such people forego “scientific thinking” in favor of “jumping to conclusions”.. and that is simply NOT how real science works.
That said.. on two separate occasions, I have seen things in the sky which defy all logical explanations that I can think of. I can say that this makes it seem “quite possible” that it could have been alien visitors.. but if asked to definitively say what those things ACTUALLY were.. the only accurate answer I can give is, “I don’t know.”
THAT is how critical thought works.
👽'Something' is definitely here on Earth, whether it's from outer space or deep within the Earth is the question. If an object travels fast than the speed of light, will we be able to see something left behind?. I saw something fly over our house moving very slowly when I was in high school in the middle of the night at about 100 feet up. It made no sound, and I couldn't distinguish its shape, other than think it was triangular due to the lights on it. I know for a fact I was not sleep walking nor asleep, because I was very excited and thrilled at the same time watching it fly right over our house(I opened the window). I then ran to the back bedroom(Brothers) and waited for it to come over the roof. I waited and waited to no avail. My biggest mistake was not waking my younger brother when I first started seeing the lights coming while I was laying in bed and woke up watching it get closer. And that's all I have to say about that. Cheers Blessings.🙏.
Sometimes I think maybe you're thinking too much along the lines of science fiction and are overly optimistic about the near future, then you have a guest that brings it all back to reality without totally shredding all hope, and Phil Plait is that guest.
How important is it that we have proof that we're not alone? Every time I ask myself that question, I just remind myself that the galaxy is unimaginably big on its own, let alone the Universe. All those other sentient, spacefaring species out there face the same problems of physics that we do, and that's enough for me to be content with lack of contact, yet keeps me hopeful enough to support continued exploration. Therefore, I don't think it's important at all.
Speaking of scepticism: be sceptical of sceptics who list ghosts in the same breath as UAPs/UFOS.
Being a skeptic is not the characteristic of dismissing things that are outside of your experience. That's called being a debunker. That guy is not a skeptic. He's somebody who is trying to preserve a conventional model of the world. I've seen two phenomena that have no conceivable conventional explanation. I don't have a presumption that they represent beings from an extra-solar planet. But I know that the most parsimonious hypothesis for them is that they are manifestations of some kind of intelligence that is outside the framework of the known social world. What the nature of that is, is unknown to me-- there are a number of options that are available to our imagination. But there is also the possibility that they are of a nature that has no cognates in our mentality at all. My skepticism prohibits me from prematurely assigning an identification to them, and my skepticism also prevents me from assigning a conventional, but farfetched, explanation to them. I know they're real. I know they're profoundly mysterious. I know they're not some secret military tech. I know that they're not phenomena that can be understood as some kinds of previously known natural phenomena. I also know that the odds that they are not controlled by some kind of high intelligence is remote. That's the majority of what I know. But I also know that anybody who thinks the overall phenomenon of UAPs could have conventional explanations is ignoring huge amounts of evidence. I listened to the hypothetical explanations this guy suggested. They don't come close to covering a huge amount of reliable data that is in our possession at this time. I'm an old guy. I hope I manage to hold on until the day that these "skeptics" get the shock of their lives, and I'm burning with curiosity to learn the facts. I've no doubt that, after THEY'VE been debunked, the "skeptics" will still have some rationale for why their position was nevertheless valid at the time they were being "skeptical".
@@donnievance1942 actually. The most likely explanation of your experiences is that you were hallucinating.
@@bipolarminddroppings yes or simply mistaken.
So visual effects can be a thing. As far as I know, military RADAR don't pick up visual effects. When you have ship based RADAR, fighter plane RADAR, plane based infra red camera and another visual light camera, plus a fighter pilot trained to observe and distinguish things in the sky (and their size, position and velocity), because their lives depend on it, all saying there is something there moving in a way our technology can't, that is fairly compelling evidence that whatever it is, it is no mirage. Do Astronomers always have four independent observations confirming their subjects of study?
Misreading is still entirely possible. Also note that if it's a classified test you won't find out at all.
@@thekaxmax There is a huge amount of evidence that some of these UAPs are objectively and behave in ways that are not just completely outside of known technology, but profoundly outside of known physics. They are not some sort of secret military technology. That is a last ditch, far-fetched hypothesis grasped at by those who wish to defend a conventional model of reality.
I think that due to the lengths of time necessary for space exploration, that we might have to send an AI to go ahead and send information back to us. Maybe our first contact with alien life might be via a sophisticated AI explorer. What a wonderful way to show that we are an intelligent and inquisitive species.
Alright I was about to write a whole chapter about the Deep Impact mission which is my fav of all but I gonna go to sleep with that Hubble deep field / grain of sand comparison that just blew my mind and will be back tomorrow for the small essay.
Thank you both, never stop John
@@faizanrana2998 then I'll transfer these to you, because you sound like you could use some love. Are you okay?
UAPs have 5 observables:
1) Anti-gravity lift
Unlike any known aircraft, these objects have been sighted overcoming the earth’s gravity with no visible means of propulsion. They also lack any flight surfaces, such as wings. In the Nimitz incident, witnesses describe the crafts as tubular, shaped like a Tic Tac candy.
2) Sudden and instantaneous acceleration
The objects may accelerate or change direction so quickly that no human pilot could survive the g-forces-they would be crushed. In the Nimitz incident, radar operators say they tracked one of the UFOs as it dropped from the sky at more than 30 times the speed of sound. Black Aces squadron commander David Fravor, the Nimitz-based fighter pilot who was sent to intercept one of the objects, likened its rapid side-to-side movements, later captured on infrared video, to that of a ping-pong ball. Radar operators on the USS Princeton, part of the Nimitz carrier group, tracked the object accelerating from a standing position to traveling 60 miles in a minute-an astounding 3,600 miles an hour. According to manufacturer Boeing, the F/A 18 Super Hornet fighter jet typically currently reaches a maximum speed of Mach 1.6, or about 1,200 miles an hour.
3) Hypersonic velocities without signatures
If an aircraft travels faster than the speed of sound, it typically leaves "signatures," like vapor trails and sonic booms. Many UFO accounts note the lack of such evidence.
4) Low observability, or cloaking
Even when objects are observed, getting a clear and detailed view of them-either through pilot sightings, radar or other means-remains difficult. Witnesses generally only see the glow or haze around them.
5) Trans-medium travel
Some UAP have been seen moving easily in and between different environments, such as space, the earth’s atmosphere and even water. In the Nimitz incident, witnesses described a UFO hovering over a churning "disturbance" just under the ocean's otherwise calm surface, leading to speculation that another craft had entered the water. USS Princeton radar operator Gary Vorhees later confirmed from a Navy sonar operator in the area that day that a craft was moving faster than 70 knots, roughly two times the speed of nuclear subs.
No one has yet gotten close to crafts that display these traits, so their origins are still unknown. Are they a super-top-secret U.S. defense project? Do they hail from Russia? China? Or from even further afield? The only thing we do know is that their capabilities exceed any technologies currently in the U.S. arsenal.
I disagree with the statement that people don't look up in the sky enough to figure out if what they are seeing is mundane or not. Having witnessed something myself and the people I know who have seen something strange, watch the sky frequently, especially after the sighting! I'm not saying its aliens. I'm just saying, it's not always local planets/ birds/ planes/ or aerial phenomenon such as ball lightning.
Good interview thanks for the episode.
Nice to hear well articulated and informed skepticism on the UAP issue
This is one of your best interviews. Much better and consistent sound-quality. Also Phil Plait is always a good listen.
Visual effects. I once saw a town, in detail, cars and pedestrians moving, apparently in our field 1/4 mile away. Knew the town and it is 20 miles from where it appeared. A very clear mirage.
As real as the bend in a pencil immersed in a glass of water. But questions about why and how light bends was part of the basis of physics.
Exactly what I keep thinking. Projections for military training, testing, etc.
@@olddecimal2736they're well known phenomena.
Every time I hear about the asteroid getting knocked off course, I think of Red Dwarf when Lister was playing planet pool.
What issues does he have with the CEO of SpaceX?
That he's a circus clown con jobber.... biggest swindler of our century. Basically. At least that's what I would guess.
His problem still though, is the frauds the scammer commits. His frauds. Pretending its the first ever and that it has advantages... th disco lighting of sorts.
NASA already successfully landed several new shuttle designs using rocket re-entry landing. The projects were halted for a variety of reasons, but chief among them was that it wasn't practical, it did not solve the cost problem in fact it made it worse.
Re-entry landing rockets mean one must place more rocket fuel which is 90% of the cost of rocket launches. And this greatly reduces payload as you have to keep so much fuel onboard for re-entry.
When the alternative of a parachute landing after using the earth atmosphere to help slow down, is very cheap. And parachutes on boosters and main frames landing on land or sea are viable for recovery; as they were with the Space Shuttle.
In the end, you gain absolutely nothing in terms of cost savings nor frequency increase in reuse-ability.... the cost goes even higher, payload sizes shrink substantially, and you still must perform a thorough refurbishment of the rockets. There is no savings. Only added costs... for what? Disco lights. Fancy flair... an ooo and an ah! Very expensive ewhs and ahhhs! that diminish into a yawn or a roll of the eye after the third or fourth observation.
Then you discover the reality those rockets are costing even more for less... causing projects to get further behind. And some big projects canceled altogether... and you discover it's because of a charleton who usually uses disco lighting and occasional dancing mimes to snare his victims into his scams... is using an airshow circus stunt sideshow... big theater, absolutely ruin behind it though as it pushes up costs for the clown cars, and destroys actual progress toward larger goals.
You realize the tax payer, the actual researchers, the astronauts, engineers, etc. all have been harmed with higher costs and less accomplishments. For a few giggles and squiggles in the short run. By carnival barker. Recent expose narrated by actor William Shatner put the scammer's modus operandi as: "...his life long love of inventing things that already exist."
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Woke ideology seems to be his issue
I really enjoyed this episode, Phil is a fantastic speaker and clearly knows the subject matter.
No big IR light: no space ship, no mega structure!
It’s funny to hear Phil mention Star Trek. Every time I hear your voice John I picture Riker Jonathan Frakes. I use to watch Beyond Belief I think you sound just like him.
John Godier has never seen an UFO not because such sightings are rare, but because when you're an Alien inside an UFO, it's hard to spot another UFO in the sky apart from Fravor's jet.
I thought this was about Alien's looking like us.
I'm just curious to how the skeptic guy from bad astronomy would explain the USS Nimitz footage
Can you do a part 2 where you actually talk about aliens?
Thanks for the heads up. 👍🏼
Unfortunately, we do not have access to the classified evidence of uap. However, occasionally we get hints from people who do, and Lue Elizondo is one such person. Though that is not classed as evidence, the fact that there is a uap task force, shows us there is something there.
How wonderful. Thanks John.
After listening to pilots like Ryan Greaves and David Fravor, I'm convinced we have something that originated from a non-human intelligence visiting our planet. Too many sightings by highly credible witnesses. One or two of these would be one thing, but hundreds over a decade, also caught on radar, is impossible to dismiss.
Don't doubt human innovation. If those UAPs arent nature or hallucinations then they are most likely tested enemy technology. This channel divotes a lot of time into the fermi paradox.
@@qwok well hallucination can be ruled out since cameras and radar corroborate, no?
@@colin7242 they've been shown to be cobblers. Making things up is making things up.
Too many sightings are based on bad technology and extremely bad interpretations of the 'evidence' from that bad technology. I hate to be that downer guy, but go watch someone who is proficient in video technology describing just how Un-UFO these ufo sightings are, and how the actual camera technology produces most/all of them.
But if you listen close to both of them. They say they don’t believe this is an alien inteligence. But maybe some cain of form of life based on earth. Maybe under the oceans. But we don’t have any proof to say we have aliens visiting us. We don’t know.
Kinda weird when you do see a UFO, though.
Absolutely
@@EventHorizonShow I saw one as a child. I suspect that it was some kind of balloon. Or a blimp airship but it looked like it lost much of the gas inside so it looke like a banana.
One hour of Phil Plait? Yes please
Ok I'm dumb. All these years, I never once got the "badass" pun in "Bad Astronomy" until I heard it said that way in this video intro.
Brilliant discussion!
The best podcast in this galaxy
7:25 iv seen a satellite that was extreamly bright and fast moving. First time i saw it it scared me to death, and then I saw it every night at the same time. Quickly realised it was just a satellite that happened to reflect a crazy amount of light due to the time of the year and position of the sun below the horizon, but if i had only seen it that one time, I probably would have thought it was a UFO (especially since i was just a few miles from Calvine which had a very famous UFO sighting)
I can remember 2 similar events in my life. The first was (like you) a satellite moving fairly quickly across the night sky. The second (and honestly the one that freaked me out the most until I did some research) was sighting ball lightning.
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One night, I saw some objects in the sky.. quite distant, above the horizon, I thought at first that they were stars.
What first struck me as “odd” about them.. was the way they shimmered, and “shifted” through a spectrum of colors. I thought that perhaps this was due to atmospheric conditions.
But then some of them moved. At first, just a little bit.. up, down, left, right.. just small, random movements.. of no more than one or two degrees (as viewed from my vantage point).
But then, one of them did something quite remarkable. It traveled across the sky in an arc, to the opposite horizon in about three or four seconds.. stopped, repeated some of the up, down, left, right movements.. then returned (again in about three or four seconds) to rejoin the others.
I, and a few other people, watched for a while as they continued the small movements, until I had to leave.
I’ve never seen anything like it since.. and to this day.. I have NO idea what they were.
🤷♂️
Hypothetically. If alien craft visited earth and were staying in earths orbit for several months untill they moved on. Would you accept a visitor pass to go on thier craft for a sightseeing tour?
My theory is the more Earth-like the planet, the more Earth-like the life. Any divergence in gravity from Earth-norm, or any divergence from atmospheric pressure would favour evolutionary solutions that look more 'alien'. With plant-analogues, the star type would influence colour and arrangement of 'leaves'. 'Plants' on on a Earth-like planet orbiting a Sun-like star might look eerily similar. Form follows function.
Two skeptics, too skeptical. So small minded and snarky. Why?
Excellent audio, thank you 👍
Good interview! Next "Great American Eclipse" is not far away - April 8, 2024!! :D
Turning to dust ...
I used to watch "The Invaders", an old B&W TV serial, when the parents were out. Like an early version of The X-Files.
When an alien died it just ... turned to dust. There was no body that anyone could use as evidence.
What about the dust?
@@Nava9380 Indeed
If you say you are open minded but outright reject things then you probably arent open minded.
If it's a physical impossibility to known physics it's fine to reject it until some credible evidence is presented.
@@thekaxmax known physics that doesn’t know what 95% of the universe is made of.
@@rossmcleod7983 still a lot more than most people. Actually, we know that all that is dark matter and dark energy; we can see the effects of both. We just don't know exactly what each is yet. Emphasis on 'yet'.
@@thekaxmax I posted this before, kinda relevant here - “We do not describe the world we see, we see the world we can describe.” Descartes
As a true skeptic, I have trouble rationalizing things I have seen. Two instances that my understanding of reality can't explain, and they certainly were entitites - not just strange lights in the sky. In the house I used to live in. I have come to terms that I may never understand. There was the benevolent, and the malevolent. Perhaps balance?
Can anybody explain how consciousness works? Do you know about the light-slit experiment? The act of observing light turns it from a wave into a particle, yet even thinking about the experiment also turns it from a wave into a particle, even from the other side of the planet.
There is much more to our universe than we know
@@londonspade5896 "...yet even thinking about the experiment also turns it from a wave into a particle, even from the other side of the planet..."
Sources, please.
Camping in Utah in the evening we (2 people), witnessed three white glowing globes floating over head, rather low, just above the trees. They can over head and disappeared!
Stunning thumbnail. 😊
I honestly don't think anyone would be seasick for an entire trip, just as they generally aren't on sea voyages. After a while you find your sea legs*. At sea, it usually takes about three days. Then you're fine for the rest of the trip unless the weather gets bad. Then when you get back on solid ground, you'll find yourself having the jelly leg where you swear the ground is moving. This also can last a few days.
Not saying you should go to space, other than maybe one of the sub-orbital publicity stunt flights, just that this is not a particularly good reason to avoid a long mission. Space sickness might, ironically, be more of a problem with moon trips because you're going to be the most sick when you need to be the most useful. I think a Mars-bound ship is going to have spin gravity living areas, although they might be at 0.38g.
Personally I'd still love to go to space. But I don't particularly want to live there. A brief visit will suffice.
*Unless you're drowning it in Dramamine. Then you never get your sea legs.
Very interesting discussion
Y’all need to make one where they document all different types of ufos and what y’all think each of them do like their special abilities, aight?
"The Earth is 4000 miles wide" - wow he really is a bad astronomer
i agree. the correct is 7900 miles wide
He's an astronomer, it's accurate if it's within a power of 10.
Wonderful talk. Thank you.
Badass Stronomer!
Why the comments warning? People can type whatever they like
I cannot take seriously anyone who casually dismisses thousands upon thousands eyewitness reports of UFO activity since the 1940's. Especially from on duty commercial and military pilots, radar operators and other sworn military and law enforcement professionals.
It's one thing as a scientist to say my field of study requires a strict adherence to the scientific method before I can make an assessment as a scientist. It's another thing to mock and dismiss any reports or investigations that by it's very nature cannot employ the scientific methods to determine what happened.
There are many things that cannot be assessed, measured, or calibrated in a lab such as how much someone loves family members. It doesn't mean nobody loves their spouse or children. It just cannot be measured. The same with witnessing UFO activity. It cannot be analyzed or recreated in a lab but that doesn't mean it does not exist and can be casually mocked and dismissed.
You cannot measure directly but you can observe and notice patterns. And then you can dismiss it until some interesting evidence comes in.
Pilots' reports were hardly dismissed. They just happen to be like everything else - uninteresting, attention seeking content.
Scientists need to actively identify the most common locations of real UFOs and then actively provide live footage when working to bring one down and capture it. Ideally this should not happen in the USA, China, Russia or other top countries since they have a very aggressive government for taking this for themselves and hiding it. I would recommend a country such as Mexico and have plans for moving any UFO technology to a private university, but the only way for the world to honestly believe the evidence needs to be provided. Even with all these precautions one of the top governments will eventually claim the UFO as belonging to them and will try taking it.
A very interesting guest with interesting things to say, also a good conversationalist. I was lucky to experience a total solar eclipse as a young lad, as we stood in a farmers field in Cornwall. It was indeed as he described it. Even being a child at the time I remember it being eerie watching the cows go to sleep and the trees and grass all taking on a different and haunting quality. It felt like a glimpse into the end of the world.
It wouldn’t be fun and kinda boring if it was just human 2.0 imagine a winged civilization and humanoid beast civilization or a humanoid underwater civilization.
I hope it’s like something fantasy/sci-fi in a way.
You know, even if i had a good camera i doubt it would have caught this but back in highschool my buddies and i were camping way out in texas. Such a beautiful sky and we were just talking laying down staring at the sky. I spotted a "shooting star" and said look at that! This light proceded to clearly not be in out atmosphere as it was just.....so far away. And then BOOM it started spinning with another star for like 20 seconds. We all stared in disbelief and then it slingshotted away. I didn't even know what a gravity sling was at the time but holy crap did it scare me
I don't find it hard to believe that some alien may be somewhat similar to us. There are only so many ways, chemically, that life can operate after all. And nature tends to go with what works. How many times have wings evolved? Mammals, birds, insects ... All have developed flight, but all in very different ways. Prehensile tails? That one has been around the block as well.
I will NEVER thumbs down a JMG video. However, I usually get triggered by self proclaimed skeptics and I like to project all my problems on them! All joking aside, I’d like to make the remark that there would be no need for skeptics if their wasn’t at least a small degree of uncertainty in their skepticism. Which is why I appreciate the hell outta JMGs humble yet open mindedness, which he usually makes pretty apparent :)
I think the majority of skeptics have become more humble in their approach to explaining their threshold for belief. But there a still a few of will shout Russel's teapot and blobsquatch at you and that's a bummer.
Terrific! I'm a long-time fan of Plait and his skeptical views.
Interesting.
Yeah how would things look like if you were actually there. Like Star Wars asteroid fields. If you were in an actual asteroid belt, you wouldnt see a single asteroid. You wouldnt know it. Same with a nebula. Looking at a black hole the way its pictured in movies and on pictures. In Interstellar, for example. That shape of the accretion disc filling the entire horizon... Its like... How does the sun look? It doesnt look like anything at all. Because your eyes are just overwhelmed by light. The same as the accretion disc from a black hole. Only at that distance, it would be like staring directly into a nuclear bomb. The only way to safely observe certain events is from a compter screen with photoshopped images.
Outside our own solar system, nothing really has colour.
You’re looking at the sky but you’re not flying f16s over the ocean and almost hitting cubes inside of a clear spheres. I’ll take pilots views on ufos before I take yours.
👏👏👏👏 Great stuff as ever.
I'm curious as to what "issues" the guest has with Elon Musk?
Likely the same issues that twitter has with him
@@nicks7835 Which is what?
@@terryboyer1342 Basically his politics. I believe the most recent triggering event for twitter was Musk’s opinion regarding Russia and Ukraine.
@@nicks7835 I'm curious what part of his politics they take issue with. As to Russia and Ukraine he's seeking a peaceful solution and an end to the war as I understand it.
The guest didn't get into that so not sure what it matters? I really like Musk and think he's a force for good but it doesn't bother me if people disagree.
The profit motive will fuel space exploration
Glad to hear him dismiss the recent "UAP" bs. Theres nothing actually new about it and I hops it fades away quickly, to give time for more important matters
Great video !
Gives the word 'prove' new meaning.
I remember watching a solar eclipse and as awe inspiring as it was, what really struck me was the sudden and rapid cooling of the air around me. It was mid-summer so quite warm but that drop in temperature really struck me.
This is the first guest on event horizon I didn’t like
Sometimes it takes an Event Horizon video to remind you that it's Thursday. The more you know!
@@angusmatheson8906 aye the world's round lol
Easy, with blurry videos of their ships.
If an Aliens did walk up to humans I'm not sure most humans would believe it. Our minds may not let us make that jump.
When relating to life form and evolution, the environment shapes life, divergent evolution is a hot topic now, many traits repeat themselves numerous times. Brains and eyes evolved independently numerous times (the eyes 40 different times) also in species Like crab like animals, dolphin and shark like reptiles, bats flying reptiles and bird etc… if you have the same molecules and composition on another planet there will be one planet out there where aliens will look very similar to us.
How long does it take until you get to the topic?
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More than 10 minutes?
Major Corso , I believe.. relates how one of the guards who wasn’t briefed about alien presence on U.S. base… saw one of the aliens in a corridor and suffered a heart attack.. re: Day After Roswell book. This suggests to me at least that they is UGLY! 😱😱😱😱
Ah.. I didn't recognize the name but after looking him up, I certainly recognize the face. I love this guy! What a brilliant and entertaining man.
lmao when he congratulates your segue
Phil Plait is hopelessly trapped in his own self-promotion narrative. Unfortunate.
Thinly veiled TDR.
What's TDR?
They may or may not look similar to us physically but what about mentally? The fact that they may look like us doesn't have to mean that they think like us.
Would love to travel the stars but not in time unless my family come with me 😂
I like this guy talks sense
I love Phil Plait & share his skepticism over UFO/UAPs
But his criteria for evidence are silly
The thing has to land on the Whitehouse lawn and/or walk up to you for a chat?
Does Phil have a YT channel?
I wonder what his cosmogony is.
Yes. Just look up TheBadAstronomer here on RUclips.
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Jeff Bezos and Musk are super villains. I love space, tho
If a craft is capable of manipulating gravity for propulsive drive, could that same gravity manipulation control light and change its appearance as well? Magic or technology?
Imagines an alien spacecraft putting up a lightshow deliberately to troll us...
technology. Magic has never been shown to exist.
and yes, IF such a thing exists, it can manipulate light. We know that gravity does that (gravitational lensing, black holes)
This is exactly how the aliens want us to think.
What is an environment? What is a liveable environment? Could anything live in a solar corona? Silicon based live?
The skepticism is a little bit thick in this one. I'm afraid I'm gonna have to go out to get some air.
amazing!
To travel in space is to travel in time.
Great interview, right up to the point where Phil thought it necessary to bring-in his anti-American, leftist political agenda, with his quick jab at Elon Musk. I’m no Elon fanboy; simply a Patriot, with respect for those that respect our nation.
I know the guests can’t be controlled, and there’s a great effort to keep politics out of the discussion, but Phil immediately crashed his credibility and I tuned-out and removed the, “like.”
please, quote the leftist part.
Nice job Cherry picking the data , typical debunkers
Where’s the compelling data? I’ve yet to see a video that showcases any of the signature characteristics that Lue always talks about. Everything we’ve seen has a natural explanation that fits within our understanding of causality. Where’s the video of ships traveling at tens of thousands of miles an hour? Where’s the video of them violating the conservation of energy by stopping on a dime & turning? Where’s the video of them warping spacetime?
The most compelling video I’ve seen was the pentagon video that showed the orb entering the water. Which in itself isn’t unexplainable either. Humanity has created flying submarines, and has done so since the 1920’s. Which leads me to believe it’s secretive human tech. There’s just literally nothing available to us to watch that proves without a doubt it’s alien. There just isn’t.
@@gravoc857 In England, August '81 during a Summer school holiday @3am, me and my brother watched a slightly fuzzy orangey light about magnitude 2 ish, flying steady east to west at high altitude airliner speed - but which suddenly performed right-angle and *acute* angle movements - no turns ,no curves- when overhead. Just like a snooker(pool) ball bouncing off the cushions .
Totally silent as it did this stuff. It reversed back and carried on steady for more seconds west -then suddenly jumped in speed like being fired from a catapult. We then heard ,about 5 seconds later, a distant low rumble. Lost it in the city centre skyglow soon after. No photos . Video was only just invented . But it's saved in my brain. :)
Interestingly ,the US air bases of Mildenhall and Lakenheath were about 83 miles due east of our location.Virtually the exact same direction the object appeared from. Maybe testing anti-gravity tech? Who knows? Thanks